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Vienna Resists: The Second (Staggering) Siege of Vienna 1683

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  • SandRhoman History
    SandRhoman History  2 жыл бұрын +772

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  • Chomik
    Chomik 2 жыл бұрын +2561

    1683 - "those poles are really brave people, they helped us, our friends.
    1772 - "Poland is divided by Austria,Russian and Prussia".

    • Polish Husaria
      Polish Husaria 12 сағат бұрын

      @Newyork 1992 Absurd claim that has nothing to do with historical reality that Poland had lil numbers of chances to encoun Ottomans. That your claim is wrong is illustrated by Poland's many wars against the Ottomans, which occurred due to the Polish Empire's competition with the Ottoman Empire in southern Europe. This has nothing to do with the topic and is completely irrelevant which empire should be the rightful successor of Roman empire, because neither Poland nor the Ottomans claim the Roman succession. The Hungarians, Albanians and Romanians are also completely irrelevant because of their complete inferiority to the Ottomans. They bravely defended themselves against the Ottomans but then failed and were occupied by the Ottomans.

    • Newyork 1992
      Newyork 1992 15 сағат бұрын

      @Polish Husaria anyway they don't have really could b same occurrences with venetians. While polish having lil numbers of chances to encounter ottoman. Cz there some frontmans like hungarian and albanian and Romanian.
      Well let's talk about ,What empire should be the rightful succesor of roman empire.if we assumed they should be till today , Spanish,russian, ottoman,greek , french? Or?

    • Polish Husaria
      Polish Husaria Күн бұрын

      @Newyork 1992 Your claims do not correspond to historical reality. Poland was an empire and Lithuania was part of the Polish empire. So the Lithuanians were not allies. Otherwise, the Polish Empire actually only fought against the Ottomans with the help of vassals and not with the help of allies. The fights together with the Habsburg allies were the exception.
      The Hungarians could no longer be allies for Poland anyway because in the meantime they have become too weak
      With Venice it was the other way around and Venice mostly fought against the Ottomans with the support of allies.

    • Newyork 1992
      Newyork 1992 2 күн бұрын

      @Polish Husaria hell.haha just forgot Poland. Yea they had same degree with venetian ig u need oto read more. Venetian just sometimes got support like the polish as well some time and ever polish have long fellow commonwealth as Lithuanian and hungarian too.

  • Ukrainian Kozak
    Ukrainian Kozak 4 ай бұрын +72

    Two of My ancestors were Winged Hussars at Vienna. They were minor nobility and were in the First Banner (First Company). My father has one of the szabla (saber). Niech żyje Polska!

    • lordski1981
      lordski1981 14 күн бұрын +1

      My Brother! I as well have an ancestor who was with the Hussars at Vienna. It took me quite a good while to research and confirm that particular part of the family history. It was always passed down through us as a fact, and we just accepted it as such. Then I studied and became an historian and decided that I wanted to find out how legitimate that family story was. It turned out to be fairly accurate when all things considered.

    • Jan Kubiak
      Jan Kubiak 17 күн бұрын +3

      I see a bit of ambivalence, tho im happy to hear support and a connection to our common heritage, I also see the red-black of Bandera (OUN/UPA) responsible for the Volhynian Genocide.

    • Paul Merring
      Paul Merring 26 күн бұрын +1

      That is fucking awesome!!!

    • Scribbler Studios
      Scribbler Studios 27 күн бұрын +1

      Gotta say, that's pretty cool. Hope ya doin well.

  • kononbt
    kononbt 2 жыл бұрын +2049

    And after 112 years, the Austrians visited Krakow and, enchanted by its beauty, stayed there for almost 123 years ;)

    • Pablo Escobar
      Pablo Escobar 14 күн бұрын

      Ten uśmiech na końcu jest nie na miejscu

    • me not you
      me not you 22 күн бұрын

      @Brian Cullen
      When you wrote Prussia, I thought you meant the real Prussians, not the Germans who genocided them and then took their name.

    • Rhys Nichols
      Rhys Nichols 5 ай бұрын

      @Aska Martyr
      Turkey was not a single nation either, it was part of the Ottoman Empire. Obviously an empire is more powerful than any single nation.

    • Frank Tuminski
      Frank Tuminski 6 ай бұрын +1

      @Raghav Bhatnagar Thank you for your comments.

  • Gareth Wigglesworth
    Gareth Wigglesworth 2 жыл бұрын +2890

    My house was built in 1620. I look at it and think to myself wow. My house was 63 years old when the siege of Vienna happened

    • George Martin
      George Martin 2 ай бұрын

      I think of your house having a really severe black mold problem.😀

    • M w
      M w 3 ай бұрын

      Do you still poop out the window?

    • Maynard Crow
      Maynard Crow 4 ай бұрын


    • Jorenski Svenski
      Jorenski Svenski 9 ай бұрын

      @Giuseppe LoGiurato just visit vienna, there you will find many buildings that are verry old.

    • Александър Иванов
      Александър Иванов 9 ай бұрын

      That is actually staggering, considering I thought that I live in an old german village house, built in 1880's.

  • Cetus444
    Cetus444 2 жыл бұрын +265

    For Sobieski, the fights against the Ottoman Empire had also personal, not only political or religious aspect.
    His ancestor was Crown Hetman Stanisław Żółkiewski, whose last-stand fight, in battle of Cecora 1620, is well known in the history of Poland. Żólkiewski died in age of 72 with a saber in his hand as a hero defending the country's borders. Sobieski's mother taught her sons Latin on the example of the inscriptions covering the tomb of their great ancestor. The uncle and brother of king Jan were killed by Tatars. Jan himself was born in a castle surrounded by the raging Tatar invasion.
    The fight against the Tatars and the Turks, one could say, was this man's destiny.
    Except from the Battle of Vienna his other victories are little known to history enthusiasts in countries different than Poland. Among that victories are brilliant counter-raid around the city of Lwów against the overwhelming strength of Tatar raiders in 1672, and in the next year battle of Khotyn where the 40,000 Turkish army was literally annihilated.
    Nevertheless, Sobieski didn't hate or prejudice his muslim enemies. He enjoyed a Janissary music and even had his own Janissary orchestra made of Turkish POW's.
    Poles and Turks met each other for hundreds of years in trade, diplomacy and on many battlefields*, but they could respect each other, even as enemies.
    *(probably first time in Battle of Kosovo 1389, where some Polish knights supported the Serbian army)

    • Joz
      Joz Ай бұрын +1

      This is why modern disputes between countries in east and Western Europe are so complicated ! The boarder of one may have been the land of a different country or country’s and repeat over and over for thousands of years this also is the case for most of the world!!!

    • Jerzy N
      Jerzy N 7 ай бұрын +1

      nie zrób kupy 😆

    • Aleksa
      Aleksa 10 ай бұрын +2

      Polish in Battle of Kosovo?
      First time I hear that one

    • Bilge Tonyukuk
      Bilge Tonyukuk 10 ай бұрын +2

      @Cetus444 The Ottoman army was a cavalry-dominated army by the beginning, they continued this system even in the Battle of Mohaç, but this changed in the 1st and 2nd sieges of Vienna, Azaps and Janissaries replaced the Sipahis of Timar, the main striking force of the army, which increased the mobility and deterrent power of the army. broke, this cost the Ottomans very dearly. While reading the 2nd siege of Vienna, I saw that Jan Sobieski and his soldiers, who defeated the Ottoman army, were not taken to the city of Vienna (for fear of capturing the city) and that most of the soldiers perished from hunger, is this true in your sources?

  • Nriedrich Fietzsche
    Nriedrich Fietzsche 2 жыл бұрын +2623

    Everybody gangsta untill the mountainside starts speaking polish.

    • TomatoBread14
      TomatoBread14 9 күн бұрын

      @DugThatOutMyself everybody gangsta until the water speaks englisch with brittish accent 👀

    • The Expatist
      The Expatist 4 ай бұрын +1

      Or when the snow starts whispering in Finnish

    • Vitor Pereira 🇺🇦
      Vitor Pereira 🇺🇦 6 ай бұрын

      @DugThatOutMyself Everybody gangsta until the sea speak Portuguese.

    • JLight2r1
      JLight2r1 8 ай бұрын +1

      I read this and started laughing so you got a thumbs up. Also because it took something like 40 to 1 odds and a joint attack form both Germany and Russia during WW2 to defeat the polish army lol. So when the mountains start speaking polish it's time to yeetus oneself out of there.

  • Thraim
    Thraim 2 жыл бұрын +1249

    Gotta love how the infantry did 80% of the work but it's the winged hussars who achieved memetic levels of praise.

    • bakters
      bakters 25 күн бұрын

      @Piotr Bratek " *They're distorting the story.* "
      They tired, but they failed. The Winged Hussars are stealing this show once again.

    • Piotr Bratek
      Piotr Bratek 25 күн бұрын

      @bakters Decisive in the battle was the line-breaking charge of the hussars. And whatever you write, these are the facts. 80% of the time it was infantry fighting. And what about this? A charge was enough and the battle was over. A meal was eaten in the vizier's tent. This is how the hussars fought. The infantry was clearing the foreground. She removed fences and fortifications. Without infantry, there would be no charge. Without the charge, there would be no victory. But it was the charge of the Khusari that routed the Ottomans. And to this day it hurts the Germans and Austrians. It hurts so much that in Vienna there is not a single monument reminiscent of Sobieski or the help of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth. But it's a shame for the Viennese and a shame for Austria. They're distorting the story.

    • TIm Smith
      TIm Smith 2 ай бұрын

      @Aleksander Sokal After defeating the mighty Army of the Eastern Roman Empire, any idea why the Turks didn’t invade Italy, the centre of Christianity and the richest country in Europe ?

    • Denny Smith
      Denny Smith 2 ай бұрын

      Who is remembered, who was lost before memory of them was yet plausible. Why?
      I consider that disjunction to be the biggest leviathan sitting in the room called Human History: Why do we micro-parse every motive, every bowel movement of every king, and second-guess legendary generals down to the strategy of their middle initials and tactics of their sordid sex lives--while the hopes and potentials, memories of mothers and even of daughters loved but never conceived, memories of their stunning abilities, appalling agonies, their rampaging rapes and their two-second slaughters--all of soldiers and sailors, archers and slingers, frontline and infantry--once cherubic infants and rascal pals--now disassembled, bone by brain by blood, in the hundreds of millions, left to rot on every field of Earth, or ossify or liquify or fossilize in cold, silent marble oblivion?
      Why is that question so rarely asked by anyone so empowered to answer?
      Who are we if not the "Provixisse," those who alone could now ask or answer any question, because we alone, from the loins of war's fodder, live on?

    • Jamie Lonsdale
      Jamie Lonsdale 6 ай бұрын

      @Aleksander Sokal Please work on your formatting skills a little. What you have to say is fascinating, but the way you have written it is extremely confusing to read due to its tiered paranthesis and lack of paragraphing.
      I hope my constructive critique is helpful :)

  • Stuart Ward
    Stuart Ward 2 жыл бұрын +204

    The coolest part about this battle is that it really was like something out of a movie in a sense that the relief force arrived at literally the last possible moment. If they arrived a day later Vienna would've fallen

    • Sigsten Bockgård
      Sigsten Bockgård 27 күн бұрын +1

      ​@Christophe Ripoll sobiekis charge used around 19000 horses, good try though.

    • Thomas Jorge
      Thomas Jorge 2 ай бұрын +2

      @Christophe Ripoll Sobieski led 15,000; 3,000 of whom were Buffalo-Winged Hussars.

    • General Feldmarschall
      General Feldmarschall 5 ай бұрын +3

      Not only Vienna but also Europe

    • Christophe Ripoll
      Christophe Ripoll 10 ай бұрын +5

      @Captain Dred Maybe the largest charge by 1683. But the largest charge in history was led by Murat, during the Battle of Eylau with 10 000 to 12 000 French horsemen according to different sources.

  • Simone Perrone
    Simone Perrone 2 жыл бұрын +3121

    "and Poland will answer"
    *Theoden likes this element*

    • Nukclear
      Nukclear 6 күн бұрын

      ​@Hans Von Mannschaft in their defense, the British squares were hidden in an area of low ground, so from the French view, they saw thin lines.

    • aksmex
      aksmex  Жыл бұрын +1

      @Black Baron who told you that? I doubt it. There other battles where a siege is lifted by a relief army. I thought that battle was based of the battle of Nicopolis 1396, where the Serbian knights changed the battle and prevent the fall of Nicopolis. There were even ships in the river like in the movie.

    • aksmex
      aksmex  Жыл бұрын

      But Austria doesn't answer when Poland calls for help. I wonder if Gondor has done that to Rohan.

    • Vincent Malasawmkima Jongte
      Vincent Malasawmkima Jongte  Жыл бұрын

      @Berzelmayr wait what?!

  • samy701
    samy701  Жыл бұрын +222

    Interesting tidbit: Just as a huge number of soldiers in the Ottoman army were Christians (Hungarian, and even English, French, German, and Dutch Protestants as well as Serbs and other Orthodox troops), one of the most effective elements in the Polish army were the Muslim Lipka Tatars. Once he got home after the Siege of Vienna, the Polish king happily ordered the building of mosques for his Lipka Tatar vassals.
    Many of these mosques still stand today, and Muslim Lipka Tatar cavalrymen were still serving in the Polish army as late as World War Two, with new inductees into the Lipka Tatar lancer regiment swearing their oath of service in Islamic style. If I’m not mistaken, a monument to the Muslim Lipka Tatar cavalry was also unveiled some years ago in Poland.

    • E.H.
      E.H. 2 күн бұрын

      Yeah they put straws on their helmets so they could be differentiated from the Ottoman Tatars. Show pretty well that those conflicts weren't really religious, but just political. As on the Ottoman side there were also many Christians fighting. Mainly Vlachs (Romanians), Serbs and Hungarians.

      ERGUN YILDIZOGLU 10 ай бұрын +6

      I just checked .first partion was 1772...There was no Poland for 123 years .Only ottoman turks did not accepted partion and always recognised independent Poland!

    • Levranz 10
      Levranz 10 10 ай бұрын +1

      @ERGUN YILDIZOGLU They took refuge in a lot of countries actually.

    • Shaquille Priata
      Shaquille Priata 10 ай бұрын +1

      This is new info to me. I know Muslim kipchaks have had a long history in Eastern Europe but I never knew they fought the Ottomans on behalf of the Poles in this siege. The more you know...

  • Matthaeus de Cuiavia
    Matthaeus de Cuiavia 2 жыл бұрын +166

    It was not mentioned in video, but Sobieski delayed his departue from Poland because the lithuanian forces that were supposed to reinforce king's army did not arrive on time. That's why Sobieski brought only half of the force from PLC he promised.

  • Sven w
    Sven w 2 жыл бұрын +111

    Considering how relatively recent , large/long and potentially worldchanging The Sieges of Vienna were. The absence of the sieges from our schools history books especially in europe, is a mystery to me. Underated in every way !

    • Samuel Lowekey
      Samuel Lowekey 16 күн бұрын

      The siege of Vienna is as important as WW1, because the entire fate of Europe hung in the balance. They planned to go on and conquer the rest of Europe.

    • Sigsten Bockgård
      Sigsten Bockgård 27 күн бұрын

      ​@Taxtro 1620?

    • P T
      P T 7 ай бұрын +1

      It really wasn't worldchanging at all. Even if the Turks had captured Vienna, they would have been driven back to Serbia just like in the original timeline. In fact, a Turkish victory would have solidified German and Polish resistance as the nobles would put their differences aside and fund a much larger Christian army

    • PACMAN
      PACMAN 11 ай бұрын

      are u nuts what recent hahahhahah that was longg time ago hahaha man u are nuts

    • aksmex
      aksmex  Жыл бұрын

      It wasn't worldchanging, there was a 15 year war that followed, which ended with a bigger battle where an ottoman army was caught while crossing a river. Don't forget, the french sided with the ottomans in this war.

  • ReaperCH90
    ReaperCH90 2 жыл бұрын +1544

    I just realized where the expression "to undermine" comes from

    • KP-legacy-54
      KP-legacy-54  Жыл бұрын

      Hahaha this wasnt the first time it was done but your right 100% it is where the term derives from

    • Dominic Guye
      Dominic Guye  Жыл бұрын

      @AudieHolland I knew the OP's comment but didn't know this, thx

    • HighlanderNorth1
      HighlanderNorth1  Жыл бұрын

      @The King in Yellow
      Yeah, it was my contrived attempt at a joke, although, now that I've re-read it, it was way too wordy and poorly conceived. Sometimes I'm pretty good at sarcasm, but that was a fail.

    • The King in Yellow
      The King in Yellow  Жыл бұрын

      @HighlanderNorth1 Nice try but you went to far. Titanium was not even known of in 1683. Probably shoulda went with coal or diamonds or mithril. You know, something more believable. :)

    • pineapplepenumbra
      pineapplepenumbra  Жыл бұрын

      @roundedges2 Exactlius!

  • Artur M.
    Artur M. 2 жыл бұрын +283

    Awesome video! Gives a holistic view of the whole battle, not just that one epic arrival. I especially appreciate the inclusion of the story of Jerzy Franciszek Kulczycki, even though you butchered the name a bit. ;D
    It would be also great to see a similar video (or two) about the battles of Chocim / Khotyn (Хотин) in 1621 and 1673, especially the first one, they deserve to get more attention in my opinion.

    • Biznesmenel
      Biznesmenel 2 жыл бұрын +1

      hej...ja tez jestem Artur M.

    • Aleksander Sokal
      Aleksander Sokal 2 жыл бұрын +3

      @bakters On him I wrote about him as if he would be alive, but his died in 2000 (Rest in Peace). Just to clear that up.

    • bakters
      bakters 2 жыл бұрын +1

      @Aleksander Sokal "Podhorodecki"
      Never read him, but I'll have a look now, as you recommended his work.

    • Aleksander Sokal
      Aleksander Sokal 2 жыл бұрын

      @bakters I agree I have 4 of Radosław Sikoras books (two in physical copies) and they are very good. But also the "Bitwy Historyczne" series from Bellona are very good, excellent writers like Leszek Podhorodecki wrote many of their books and he is an expert on everything to do with Sobieski, Tatars, Ottomans and Oriental stuff generally.

    • bakters
      bakters 2 жыл бұрын +2

      @Aleksander Sokal "I have new information"
      I knew of it by now, but thanks anyway. At least it's good to put it out here, so people can possibly learn, that 600 Hussars would charge against 10K+ of enemy, which included several thousands of their *elite* cavalry, not some random schmucks!
      "Radosław Sikora"
      He's the best when it comes to Hussars. It's just the truth. I'm reading through a book on Klushino battle by another guy, and this other guy is good too, but not on the same level.
      Oh, how I wish we'd have the Winged Hussars holding guard in front of the presidential palace! Yesterday they put a picture of Żółkiewski on the wall of the palace due to 400th anniversary of his death at Cecora. Maybe the president could be warmed up to the idea somehow?
      People would crowd-fund the living out of this project. Which would be needed, if we wanted to dress the soldiers up correctly.
      Let's hope.

  • stefantrethan
    stefantrethan 2 жыл бұрын +26

    Very interesting, thank you.
    Sadly, the sieges of Vienna were reduced to no more than a few boring sentences in history class so I knew very little, although many place names still reflect the ancient defensive works that lie beneath.

  • Frederick Hoffman
    Frederick Hoffman 2 жыл бұрын +22

    Fantastic content! Your academic rigor and focus on the Early Modern Era certainly fills a void. I only realized (thanks to your crediting historians) that one of my favorite books is from Christopher Duffy - "Siege Warfare". I haven't read the other historians you mention, but I can recommend Duffy as being as entertaining as your videos. Mentioning sources really separates "wheat from chaff" in history KZclip videos; it respects the "shoulders of giants" that spent lifetimes bent over the primary sources so we can be informed and entertained at our leisure.

  • E R
    E R 7 ай бұрын +1

    WOW! I had read about this battle, but was a bit fuzzy on the details. This video really helped me understand what exactly went on, who was involved, and the structure of forts. Thank you so much for putting this together! I'm sharing it with a history class I'm teaching.

  • phiszabo2 History and Culture
    phiszabo2 History and Culture 2 жыл бұрын +18

    Loved it. I've studied this siege. Watched several videos. Heard many perspectives. Your compilation of info into a full documentary is a great success. You did that in a half hour production! Cheers! Thanks

  • Oliver
    Oliver 2 жыл бұрын +4

    This channel has great artwork in the videos, it gives us a much better idea of what happened compared to just maps like other channels. Excellent work SandRhoman History!

  • Fenix Globtroter
    Fenix Globtroter 2 жыл бұрын +30

    After describing the situation of Vienna in such detail, I hoped for the same when describing the battle. It is a pity, because there is something to talk about, the Turks made serious mistakes in their preparations to repel the relief, as well as in the battle itself. Kara mustafa ignored the advisers' suggestions to fortify Kahlenberg Hill, from where they were later fired upon by Allied artillery. The Turks neither noticed nor ignored the 6 km long belt of the forming Polish cavalry.
    It is also worth adding that there were no Lithuanians for whom Sobieski was waiting, and finally he went without them, 10 thousand of them were already on their way to Krakow.

    • Henry Aybaz
      Henry Aybaz 2 ай бұрын +2

      Tatars were supposed to harass and hold Polish army when they were passing the bridge but they just watched doing nothing. Quarrel between Tatar Khan and Kara Mustafa lead to their doom. Kara Mustafa did not want to give Tatars any artillery pieces. Also they should have started the siege late April or Early May.

    • SoulShadow
      SoulShadow 4 ай бұрын

      yes, i was surprised no one was talking about this...

  • chemical_art
    chemical_art 4 ай бұрын +2

    Rewatching this I realize the cooperation between Emperor Leopold and King Sobieski was even closer then I first thought. Emperor Leopold ceded overall command to Sobieski, but on the eve of battle Sobieski went with Leopold's plan. This flexibility must have trickled down and allowed the coalition of armies to work together as the did during the battle.

  • Baron Von Mott
    Baron Von Mott 10 ай бұрын +1

    Technically I already knew the story of this siege from the Extra Credits series on it (great history channel in their own right, covers a lot of overlooked topics and events in an easily-digestible way). But I expected SandRhoman would give me a far more detailed and precise account of events, and I am not disappointed!

  • daveyrich89
    daveyrich89 2 жыл бұрын +2

    Love this and similar channels that do long format historical documentary style videos. Thanks for all the time, research, and video editing you do to bring us great content.

  • kutu429
    kutu429 2 жыл бұрын +3

    I keep thinking how overpowered hand grenades or mortar shells would be in the old times,
    it turns out people had much more creative ideas and did the unthinkable. I never knew they dug trenches to reach the second wall or used miners to go under the castle.
    Great content. Thank you

    • HingerlAlois
      HingerlAlois 2 жыл бұрын

      They used hand grenades back in 1683, of course not modern hand grenades, but for example they had hand grenades made out of glas filled with explosives.

  • SanitaryCockroach
    SanitaryCockroach 2 жыл бұрын +2

    The brave relief army infantry did a lot of the brunt work, and the winged hussars delivered the coup de grâce. And no one can ignore the determined defenders of Vienna herself. A tragic, yet poetic event.

  • Matthew McRowan
    Matthew McRowan 2 жыл бұрын +384

    this was one of the most important battles in last 500 years

    • Maciej
      Maciej 9 ай бұрын

      @Muhammed Yılmaz totally agree with You, sometimes it is treated as one, but spreaded across 3 days. In the second phase, imperial forces were located in the Centre and PL cavalery on the flanks that butchered fleeing Ottoman forces

    • Muhammed Yılmaz
      Muhammed Yılmaz 9 ай бұрын +1

      @Maciej There is 2 battle of Parkany, in first one, Sobieski sought quick victory but his 5.000 army is ambushed and routed by 4-5.000 Ottoman Cavalry. In this battle, Sobieski almost died. In second battle, German Army reached Battlefield and annihilated Ottoman Army.

    • Maciej
      Maciej 9 ай бұрын +1

      much more Turks were lost in the Battle of Párkány, that happen afterward of Vienna (also fun fact: Sobieski was quite a fatso and he almost died in this battle because a horse fell under him)

    • Muhammed Yılmaz
      Muhammed Yılmaz 10 ай бұрын +1

      ​@Fred Lougee I know that France under Louis 14, muster 300.000 disciplined soldiers which is even larger than Ottoman Armies during Siege of Vienna. If Ottoman Army took Vienna and advanced through Germany, France would join war on the side of HRE and stop Ottoman expansion on West Europe. This balance of power is the reason why no state in 17th century Europe could seize large pieces of land except for minor territorial changes. Likewise, after the Ottomans lost all of Hungary to Austria, France declared war on the HRE in 1688, Austria had to send its entire army to the French front, thus preventing Ottomans losing more territory in Europe. Only Poland remained out of this balance of power, so Poland could not escape being divided.

  • pr va
    pr va 2 жыл бұрын +17

    Well-explained, thanks. Love your walking soldiers. Small omission methinks: You rightly explain that on 14th July Kara Mustafa demanded that the city surrender and that Ernst Rüdiger Graf von Starhemberg refused, but you don't mention that only days before Starhemberg had received news of the mass slaughter at Perchtoldsdorf, a town south of Vienna, where the citizens submitted after surrender was similarly demanded of them but were all killed anyway - obviously Starhemberg dare not trust the Ottomans and due to their treachery at Perchtoldsdorf the Ottomans brought any misfortune at Vienna on themselves.

    • pr va
      pr va  Жыл бұрын +4

      @Tolga TOSUN Info from my uni notes which were from various sources, but I've just looked it up at Wikipedia and it confirms, and that'd be somewhere to start for further research online.

    • Tolga TOSUN
      Tolga TOSUN  Жыл бұрын +1

      It is very interesting information. If you know some sources mentioned what happened in Starhemberg, please, can you tell me? Based on the Ottoman military traditions, surrendered cities and castles are not plundered. Otherwise, soldiers have right to plunder the city for maximum three days (its up to the commander. For instance, when Mehmet II conquered Istanbul, he ordered to stop the plunder in the same day of the conquest), except buildings. Because they belong to the state.

  • niewinnny
    niewinnny  Жыл бұрын +48

    In Poland, we call the Battle of Vienna the Vienna Relief. It was the second military aid provided to Austria by the Polish Kingdom. The battle fought on November 22-23, 1619 between the Polish Lisowczycy (also an interesting formation of the Mercenaries, who were perhaps better trained by HUSSARI) and the Transylvanian army. There, the Polish army showed their effectiveness again, it is interesting that the Lisowczycy did not receive their pay from the king, their payment was what they robbed. They could take all the looted things only on a horse which they could not move and did not have horse carts on. In Germany, unkind children were threatened with this because the Lisowczycy will come and take you hahahhahaah

    • Ranyl
      Ranyl 2 ай бұрын +1

      The payment was that he gets the honor of victory. The german, venice(not vienna) and austrian forces beat the ottomans and the hussars just delivered the final blow when the enemy was already basically defeated. Then the polish were looting the enemy camp while the emperors army had to wait their turn. How much more payment does a simple polish king need then his name being remembered for ages to come? Especially since he didnt even have to actually sacrifice his men cause there was no need to. Absolute win/win situation

  • MaxMagnus
    MaxMagnus 2 жыл бұрын +204

    As an Austrian I've been eagerly awaiting this. Thanks!

    • Giuseppe Schioppa
      Giuseppe Schioppa 10 ай бұрын

      Mir taugt es wie einer der Soldaten einen Satz mit "oida" anfängt.

    • PACMAN
      PACMAN 11 ай бұрын

      @MaxMagnus thats where mozart got the turkish march influence ideas interesting also

    • Dionysos 77
      Dionysos 77 2 жыл бұрын

      Egon Erwin Zwiebelkuchen Des hingegen isch aber a wagse Red Pill.

    • Dionysos 77
      Dionysos 77 2 жыл бұрын +2

      Egon Erwin Zwiebelkuchen Sorry for beeing late. Vienna has a population of 1.8 mil. 20.000 doesn't seem to be that big of a deal.

    • donaustadt
      donaustadt 2 жыл бұрын +3

      @Nriedrich Fietzsche Actually, no one knows the true reason why the building of the monument was stopped. One should not believe the typical FPÖ propaganda. It is entirely possible that the planned monument is simply too ugly. Looking at this picture, I am very thankful that this monument will never be erected.

  • PLUA. History by drone
    PLUA. History by drone 2 жыл бұрын +6

    Very good video and story. Congratulations! A sad sign of time is that on the Kahlenberg hill in Vienna, from where the winged hussars charged, there is virtually no information about that. And the Vienna authorities have for years refused to consent to the erection of a monument to King Jan III Sobieski there ...

  • Jacktarat
    Jacktarat 2 жыл бұрын +3

    I enjoyed the video very much. Great story telling and graphics. Also love your sources (I have some of the books too), especially Eickhoff is phantastic. Keep up the great work!

  • donaustadt
    donaustadt 2 жыл бұрын +52

    I live in Vienna and 1683 is of course a very important part of our city's history. It is a real pleasure to watch such a well-researched and highly dramatic documentary.
    It would be great if you could also do a video of the lesser known first siege of 1529.

    • PACMAN
      PACMAN 11 ай бұрын

      @Gökhan Çelik if but talks hahahha ulan

    • Gökhan Çelik
      Gökhan Çelik  Жыл бұрын

      Az ama en önemlisi oydu ilk kuşatma başarılı olsaydı suan baska bır dünya vardı

  • Papaver Hypnos
    Papaver Hypnos 2 жыл бұрын +7

    The substantive error resulting from the understatement is that Sobieski's troops (including hussars and tankers) were deployed not only on the right flank of the left and in the center, but the overwhelming forces were on the right flank. In addition, it should be said first about the attack of the hussars that were to explore the area (probably 1 army banner - 1 unit)
    sorry for my english

  • Ian Tarry
    Ian Tarry  Жыл бұрын +3

    I've always thought that a good preparation for the sieges of the time would be to create a huge lake nearby that had the ability to flood the land in front of the city and fill a large moat system at the same time. Surely not overly hard to engineer with the right people and enough money. It could be used at the right time to wash away the field work and cannon of the attacking force and most big rich cities are near a decent sized river anyway so it should be possible to achieve.

    • Ian Tarry
      Ian Tarry  Жыл бұрын +2

      @bentos11 dam! See I missed the bloody obvious...
      On a slightly more serious note they now think "horse" is a mistranslation or a euphemism used for ship. Which would actually make a whole lot more sense.
      I can actually see a winning force finding a ship left by the Greeks and not getting hugely suspicious. Say full of goods, food etc and it also actually offers places to hide unlike a horse....
      I mean if I woke up to find a big bloody wooden horse left by the forces we'd just been fighting we'd be having a bonfire not bringing it in the City...

    • bentos11
      bentos11  Жыл бұрын

      they would respond by constructing large, floating wooden horse, filled with soldiers... then citizens would pull it inside, and city would be captured... that's the reason why flooding tactics was used so rarely

  • Alias Anybody
    Alias Anybody 2 жыл бұрын +837

    Vienna: "We'll keep the coffee as compensation"
    And so a century long addiction started, and coffee culture swept over most of Europe. Who needs gold when you can have caffeine?

    • vortrekking boer
      vortrekking boer Ай бұрын

      @Süleyman Siverekli "wikipedia confirms this" what a 🤡

    • War Pigs
      War Pigs 9 ай бұрын

      @Michail Kulischov Kafe at the battel of Konstantino-poop-o-up-lous-zotsky where they had a drink of Coffee and it made them coughing, therefore caffeine was inspired by the battle of Jimmy Kofa.

    • War Pigs
      War Pigs 9 ай бұрын

      ​@نواف السليمان I donut know what is who lie. But you are all wrong, I am right :)

    • MNS
      MNS  Жыл бұрын

      @نواف السليمان Thank you for the numbers. Couldn't pass accounting without them!

    • Adam
      Adam  Жыл бұрын

      Rulers far from combat could be concerned with gold and other "riches" but siege armies were interested in food, water and other useful supplies like delicious brown seeds.

  • Sapere aude
    Sapere aude 2 жыл бұрын +2

    Congratulations. This was even better than Osprey's Vienna 1683.
    "As an instructor in tactics he preferred the case method as a vehicle for com­municating his thoughts, because he believed that it is im­possible for the word to make as strong an impression on the mind as a drawing, which describes everything at a glance that one must comprehend and at the same time eliminates much useless and tiresome verbiage.'" Jay Luvaas (Ed.): Frederick the Great on the Art of War, p. 172
    Original quote in French:
    Comme il est impossible que la parole fasse d'aussi fortes impressions sur l'esprit que le dessin, qui représente tout à coup à l'œil ce que l'on doit concevoir, et qui abrége en même temps un long et ennuyeux verbiage, je donne ci-joint le plan de différents postes, avec les façons différentes de les attaquer.
    German translation:
    Da Worte nie so anschaulich wirken wie eine Zeichnung, die dem Auge alles Wissenswerte sofort darstellt und zugleich ein langes und langweiliges Gerede erspart, so gebe ich hier Pläne von verschiedenen Stellungen nebst den verschiedenen Angriffsarten.
    Perhaps one minor proposal when revising this presentation? According to Millar/Dennis, the luke-warm reaction by the besiegers to the relief forces' offensive was what really broke the back of the Turkish army at Vienna: Despite the fact that they were fully aware of what was going on on Kahlenberg Mountain, for several hours they simply failed to detach/concentrate sufficient forces to block the Allied advance.

  • Konsta Hänninen
    Konsta Hänninen 2 жыл бұрын +43

    Something should also be said about the imperial army that, after marching two days through a forest without provisions, just stormed through the janissaries and then stopped to wait for the hussars to arrive.

    • swietoslaw
      swietoslaw 2 ай бұрын

      @Ranyl Yeah in 1772 were first partition of Poland but what it have to do with siege of Viena?

    • Ranyl
      Ranyl 2 ай бұрын

      @swietoslaw poland was easily defeated not even 100 years later if I remember correctly.

    • Walter Weiss
      Walter Weiss 2 жыл бұрын

      @swietoslaw that's why they were late for a fortnight

    • Walter Weiss
      Walter Weiss 2 жыл бұрын +1

      after all Vienna was the Habsburg capital, and a Habsburg was Emperor of the old Reich

    • WanderfalkeAT
      WanderfalkeAT 2 жыл бұрын +5

      @Biały We Viennese know very well what Sobiesky did for Vienna! Politics are a fucking Minefield and it was really bad to see that Austria had to keep the Hungarians in Shackles for such a long time, because they kept stabbing the Habsburgs in the Back on any Occasion. It is still told in Schools History Classes that the Winged Husars helped Vienna in their most desperate Hours. And I am so sorry what my Countrymen did when they supported the NAZI Occupation of Poland and when they split up Poland. But much of what made Sobiesky help Vienna was Religious Belief symphaties and that Poland would have been next after Vienna. They where different Times, when Religion was more important to the People than Safety and being a respected Nation. Sobiesky clearly saw Advantages to help Vienna, most importantly the Pope's good Graces and the Loot he was able to take from the Turks. He did not split them with the Others despite the Fact that he was not the only one who saved VIenna and lost Soldiers. When he came back to Poland, he was rich and his Influence was basically trippled. That was more important to him than having a Statue in Vienna, believe me!

  • Landon Smith
    Landon Smith 5 ай бұрын

    What I find really fascinating is that this could have been one of the last battles of the Pike and Shot era, I've noticed some units in the video in armor and carrying pikes, but most combat involving guns and smaller weapons. It is definitely around the time when guns began to take over though.

    • Piotr Bratek
      Piotr Bratek 2 ай бұрын

      The evolution of weapons towards firearms - it was certainly well advanced by now. What is equally important, the importance of artillery has grown very strongly. The third element - the armies ceased to be noble. The conscription of peasants into the army began. The importance and number of infantry increased. However, there were still wars and maneuver battles with a large share of cavalry. Even in 1920, the Battle of Warsaw - was largely based on cavalry charges. And on both sides. And the sabres were still in the hands of the cavalry. Only motorised troops fully replaced the cavalry during World War II. In Poland at the beginning of the war we still had cavalry. But she didn't fight classically. It fought with armoured troops like infantry. Horses were used only for quick movement.
      Today we only have horses for parades. Even in Poland, which still loves horses today.

  • veasna PHAI
    veasna PHAI 2 ай бұрын +3

    Love to Austria from Greece.
    Glory to civilization.

  • TheEudaemonicPlague
    TheEudaemonicPlague 3 ай бұрын

    When I saw this pop up in my feed, I knew I'd have to watch it. I've been intending to learn more about this siege for over a decade, but hadn't quite gotten around to it.
    For an excellent fictional view, Neil Stephenson's Baroque Cycle describes it from the POV of an English mercenary. To me, the description of the trenches and tunnels (among other things) really brought it to life. I doubt they were really so large that a man could ride a horse through them, but, considering the amount of research Stephenson did for it, perhaps they really were large enough? Watching further, I see that this was pure fantasy...which is what I figured, but you never know, sometimes reality can be amazing. The character I'm referring to arrives about the same time as Jan Sobieski's army, and enters the tunnels while the Ottoman army is in disarray, looking for loot. He ends up with an Arabian stallion, Damascus sword, a woman, and feathers from someone's pet ostrich (quite valuable).

  • Matej Pfajfar
    Matej Pfajfar 2 жыл бұрын

    I heard of this one in primary school. Not in such detail in war affairs but the story is known. My country (Slovenia) is not so far away from Vienna and the Turks went ower this land first. Even where I live (north-west, mountain region), there were some hills meant for villagers of that time to run for if Turks come. Janichars (or however you spell this) were actually kids, taken by the Turks in them invasions and thought their ways back home in Turkey for military affairs. I think they didn't hade that bad life. Good stuff anyway and refreshing them history lessons.

  • sloop
    sloop 2 жыл бұрын +86

    The battle for Minas Tirith in real life.
    Truly staggering

    • MadKoala21
      MadKoala21 11 ай бұрын

      @LiveForever Siege of Siget was the ispiration for Helms Deep (there it was played out with final charge of the defenders), secend siege of Wien was inspiration for Minas Tirith.

    • aksmex
      aksmex  Жыл бұрын

      I wouldn't be surprised if they took inspiration out of this battle. Also, the siege of Paris was broken by a relief army in 885 like this, though smaller.

    • toggid
      toggid  Жыл бұрын +3

      @LiveForever Did you read the books? It seems you have seen only the movies...

    • LiveForever
      LiveForever 2 жыл бұрын +7

      Nope. This is the battle of Helms deep. Siege of Belgrade in 1456 was Minas Tirith thing.

  • Said Toshimaru
    Said Toshimaru 2 жыл бұрын +1890

    Moral of the story:
    Siege warfare sucks.

    • Alphenex
      Alphenex  Жыл бұрын

      @DM who are those arabs lol im so confused

    • نواف السليمان
      نواف السليمان  Жыл бұрын

      @ChickenMcThiccken really? Could you please tell me what are the massive issues?

    • ChickenMcThiccken
      ChickenMcThiccken  Жыл бұрын +1

      @h y what are you talking about? serbs have spoken "serbian" ; for far longer than you think. serbs are even older than hindus. and hindus have a 7000 year history. i can pull up so much shit. to make your head spin.

  • Al Oz
    Al Oz 2 жыл бұрын +3

    @SandRhoman History - could you make an episode on Ottoman battlefield tactics, their evolution, and how did they compare with the evolution of Western European tactics over time? Particularly in the introduction of firearms and cannons, it seems that the Ottomans were important players in the story early on...many thanks!

  • Darth Walrus
    Darth Walrus 2 жыл бұрын +4

    A thirty minutes long video? Thanks, this just made my day! Keep up the good work, I'm just about to start the video but I already know this will be good. :)

  • Marlee Gould
    Marlee Gould 2 жыл бұрын +1

    This is the first video I have seen that goes in depth into the siege. Very well done, thank you!

  • Ungeimpfter Russlandtroll
    Ungeimpfter Russlandtroll 2 жыл бұрын +21

    There was even a spanish regiment and also italians in the city. Especially the spanish were vital for the defence. There is a german book by Karl August Schimmer from around 1840 about the sieges of Vienna. It's i think the first where first hand sources are researched and brought together in a book.
    It's very entertaining because it recorded many of the individual deeds certain people did during the siege. It has many interesting details of about what happened in and outside the city druing the siege. It gives a pretty good insight in general of the cicumstances of the time and the siege itself. To bad it's only in german i think.

    • Katalin Stefanik dr.
      Katalin Stefanik dr. 2 жыл бұрын

      @Biały I found this on hungarian internet
      The Bulwark of Christendom - the Turkish Sieges of Vienna 1529 & 1683-The Sieges of Vienna by the Turks by Karl August Schimmer & The Great Siege of Vienna,1683 by Henry Elliot Malden with an extract from The Life of King John Sobieski by Count John Sobies
      Schimmer, Karl August - Malden, Henry Elliot - Sobieski, John
      LEONAUR, 2016
      Írj véleményt elsőként!/ Be first with yuor opinion!
      The struggles for the city that saved Europe from the Ottoman Turkish Empire The battle between the Islamic east and the Christian west raged for centuries. Its principal battleground was eastern Europe and upon the waters of the Mediterranean Sea. Western Europe was distanced from the fray, perhaps to the extent that its people rarely understood the sentiments of those who lived and fought on the perennial front line of a conflict which had the potential, if unchecked, to overwhelm every European nation. The conquering armies of the crescent banner frequently swept westward, but it was in Austria, before the walls of Vienna, that the machinations of Ottoman sultans were eventually confounded. The city was besieged on two notable occasions, both of which are graphically recounted in the pages of this book. This city, which became emblematic of music and romance in later, more peaceful times, was the bastion that hurled back the Turks from the West. On the second occasion Vienna was surrounded in 1683, John Sobieski, King of Poland, earned immortal fame after rescuing the besieged garrison by charging into the Turkish encampment at the head of his winged hussars. The dramatic story of that momentous action provides a riveting account which is also included in this unique Leonaur edition. Leonaur editions are newly typeset and are not facsimiles; each title is available in softcover and hardback with dustjacket.
      Price:14,525 Ft.

    • Biały
      Biały 2 жыл бұрын

      @Ungeimpfter Russlandtroll I am fully aware of that... you are reading only books by Germans with cherry-picked facts or completly fake stories otherwise some ugly and unwanted truths gonna come out and bite you into your oversized EGO.
      I can read Norman Davies books about Polish history, its not like in case of German people where you can find in non-german books skeletons hidden in every closet... You reading German writes(not even historian) and translating it into english to spread German version of "history" and in the same time Polish people translating English books of real historians into Polish and have fun reading it.
      So when you writing to me "historical polish hybris is all you have and drive on," you simply projecting your own German complexes into me.
      Any one can google "Boże igrzysko bestseller" and find out that this phrase is returning about 109,000 results...
      Your beloved Karl August Schimmer book was over 150 years after the battle => zero chance that he found some uknown eye witnes and writing his story. After so long even all grandchild's of any eye witnes of this siege would be also dead. So there was no chance that someone gonna say "sory my grandfather told me how it was and this story from your book is complete BS"...
      And after partition of Poland Germans and Russians made plenty of efford to produce fake stories about Poland.
      For example Catherine the Great wasted plenty of money on French writers/philosophers and in return they were producing twisted stories that was explaing to anyone silly enoght to believe them that free Poland would be a huge disaster not only for Russia or Germany but for whole Europe.
      1846: "The Kraków Uprising of February 1846 was an attempt, led by Polish insurgents such as Jan Tyssowski and Edward Dembowski, to incite a fight for national independence. The uprising was centered on the city of Kraków, the capital of a small state of Free City of Krakow. It was directed at the powers that partitioned Poland, in particular the nearby Austrian Empire."
      1847: Karl August Schimmer writing "The Sieges of Vienna by the Turks"
      What a coincidence...

    • Ungeimpfter Russlandtroll
      Ungeimpfter Russlandtroll 2 жыл бұрын

      @Biały Come down man. Polish internet means nothing to me.

    • Biały
      Biały 2 жыл бұрын

      @Ungeimpfter Russlandtroll en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God%27s_Playground
      As you can see plenty of Polish editions of this book...
      Your beloved Karl August Schimmer? Not a single article about him in Polish internet, only one page is listing bookshops that can sell you his english versions of his book and isn't that strange that you can easly find this book in english even in Polish internet but there is no translation of that book into Polish and Polish not English speaking people were involved in that fight...

    • Biały
      Biały 2 жыл бұрын

      @Ungeimpfter Russlandtroll " the historical polish hybris is all you have and drive on, isn't it?" Nope i also like Turkish comments about Polish Winged Hussars for some strange reason they are not into this German game called "lets trow some crap on Poland and lets hope that something gonna stick"...
      Bye, have a nice day and dont read any non German books about German history you clearly will not gonna like it. ^^

  • wayner396
    wayner396 2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, absolutely love the presentation and art style of your video. I love the movement and animations. Absolutely fantastic. You've gained a sub.

  • Alias Anybody
    Alias Anybody 2 жыл бұрын +18

    This may not be the right channel for that, but an overview of the Turkish incursions into Styria and Carinthia as well as the hinterlands of Vienna during both Sieges of Vienna would be pretty awesome.

    • Padishah Aurangzeb alamgir
      Padishah Aurangzeb alamgir 7 ай бұрын

      @KUSTURUCU no

    • Captain Dred
      Captain Dred  Жыл бұрын

      @Alias Anybody Danke.

    • Alias Anybody
      Alias Anybody  Жыл бұрын +2

      @Captain Dred
      *Steiermark, Kärnten

    • sktt1
      sktt1  Жыл бұрын

      Sure it was albanian empire 🤣🤣🤣. The empire is turkish empire.. Turkish was dominant from begining to end. When they conquered New territories they settle turks there.. Benefiting from albanians, greeks, serbs don't make it non turks.. We lost this battle. Some turks trying to distinguish themselves from Ottoman history to look "europen" but No one give a fuck. Every balkan history book has dark Page called "Ottoman turk"

    • Captain Dred
      Captain Dred  Жыл бұрын

      @Berzelmayr Styria and Carinthia are provinces of Austria on the eastern side. In German, they are called Steirmarch and Kartnen.

  • George Cunningham
    George Cunningham 2 жыл бұрын +8

    Having spent decades in academia studying the social history of most of Europe, I have had nothing but a passing interest in the military history - usually confined to the affects and aftermath, not the process. But having found your channel "by accident" while looking for something else, I have found a new interest in military strategy, particularly in sieges. I don't know for certain, but I will assume it has been awakened by your simple, but comprehensive presentation and explanations. I begin to perceive the elegance and magnificence of military strategy as influenced by personalities, as well as the consequences thereof. Thank you for sharing your interests and awakening a new area of study in me! I have begun to look forward to each new episode, often checking to see if I have missed a notification..........and thus, an addiction is born!

  • Bandit
    Bandit 2 жыл бұрын +1

    Very brave men defending the city. Very brave hussars to assist!

  • Bask3r
    Bask3r 2 жыл бұрын +62

    As a swedish history nut one does not love the hussars to much. However, I dont think there is a more powerful line in the entire warfare history than "Then the winged hussars arrived".

    • Bohun Bohun
      Bohun Bohun 9 ай бұрын

      @Of Spear and Smoke Husaria=wind husars. Klusino Rusland.

    • Of Spear and Smoke
      Of Spear and Smoke 9 ай бұрын +1

      @Bohun Bohun Hussars is the literal English translation of "husarze", what do you mean? And how is the battle of Klushino relevant?

    • Bohun Bohun
      Bohun Bohun  Жыл бұрын

      Not hussars. This husaria.
      1610 yers 2500 Polisch husaria and 200 solgers. VS 35000 Rusian and Sweden. Victory Polisch.

    • Jimmy The-Gent
      Jimmy The-Gent  Жыл бұрын +3

      Its fuxkin bad ass for sure - Deus Vult!

    • Siwa Szkotka
      Siwa Szkotka  Жыл бұрын +5

      you are right - there is not

  • Aaron Paul
    Aaron Paul 2 жыл бұрын +3

    Wonderful job. My only complaint is that I have seen many videos about the battle of vienna, but very little about the 15 year long war that followed. Any chance we can get that?

  • sam74mumm
    sam74mumm  Жыл бұрын +1

    It´s astonishing how thrilling this video was although everybody already knows the outcome of that famous battle- Kudos for authors of this channel👍

  • guava guy
    guava guy 2 жыл бұрын +560

    This channel is so underrated.

    • Mhdfrb99
      Mhdfrb99  Жыл бұрын

      Cuz they're copying Kings and Generals

    • Joke Bidumb
      Joke Bidumb  Жыл бұрын

      Better to be underrated than undermined. C'mon man.

    • madcat789
      madcat789 2 жыл бұрын +2

      On this day, March Fifteenth, Two-Thousand-and-Twenty, I give to thee your four hundreth like.

    • Field Marshal
      Field Marshal 2 жыл бұрын

      @Aska Martyr what

  • KLE Society
    KLE Society 2 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are truly a 1 of a kind, very well done, if you and Invicta or Kings and Generals did a collab it would be amazing.

  • Grumpy Chéf
    Grumpy Chéf 2 жыл бұрын +3

    Man this is top notch! Really really well done mate, i enjoy every second of your videos.

  • mark renton
    mark renton  Жыл бұрын

    Two comments , I visited a castle in Germany called the Eltz near Koblenz , the man who owned the castle fought in that war, in fact there was a saw tooth shark's bill on the wall that was used in that war.Also I went Hungary and visited Elizabeth where they fought in that war.

  • pbrin
    pbrin 2 жыл бұрын +5

    This account makes it clear that the much lauded winged hussars certainly did not win the battle alone. The imperial troops and various HRE troops had already pushed the Ottomans way back. The hussars merely made the victory sure. In my view the real credit goes to the dogged defenders for holding out so long and using every strategy to hold back the relentless attackers. I know the winged hussars enjoy a lot of fame and popularity but good perspective is important. The movie hardly gives any credit to the imperial troops, but then I believe it is a Polish movie. Charles of Lorraine did a great job raising an army too.

    • Of Spear and Smoke
      Of Spear and Smoke 9 ай бұрын

      Of course they did not win alone, no single unit could. The final charge was only that -- a final, decisive blow to complete the victory. That's the hussars' job in most cases (the "impossible" victories we Poles love so much are a definitive minority of battles).
      The film is a joint production of Austrians, Poles, and Italians (curiously enough). Other than being historically incorrect, it's also just plain bad. The VFX are atrocious, the plot is not compelling at all, and there little details (like the incorrect date of September 11th in the title and dehumanisation of the Turks) that point to it being anti-Middle-Eastern in general. Overall, it's best to pay it no heed. No-one likes it, not even us Polish.

  • peerpede P.
    peerpede P. 2 жыл бұрын +78

    Thank you Poland, you saved us all from the scourge.

    • peerpede P.
      peerpede P. 2 ай бұрын

      @Richest Man In Tatooine Who gives a crap...

    • peerpede P.
      peerpede P. 2 ай бұрын

      @Ranyl Well, we won and they lost, that's the important thing.

    • Ranyl
      Ranyl 2 ай бұрын

      I think the people in vienna are the heroes. Sobieskis payment was that he revives the honor for the victory. Thats why everybody gives him so much credit. In reality most of the battle was done by the forces led by karl lothringen

  • Reb Brown
    Reb Brown 2 жыл бұрын +3

    You guys produce amazing content. Thank you.

  • Communism_is_wrong
    Communism_is_wrong  Жыл бұрын

    It’s also considered by a lot of people the last true medieval battle/siege

  • Grand Moff Tarkin
    Grand Moff Tarkin 2 жыл бұрын +16

    At 25:49, this is a brilliant tactic. Sun Tzu said: "Attack when the enemy never suspected, taking the enemies off guard by surprise(攻其無備、出其不意)“.
    In 1939 German invasion of France and 1991 Gulf War, this tactic proved it's worth again and again.
    This video is way more interesting than the actual 2012 movie lol.

    • Hannibal Burgers
      Hannibal Burgers 10 ай бұрын +1

      Sun Tzu: "When in war, try to defeat enemy."
      Such a wise man

  • pineapplepenumbra
    pineapplepenumbra 2 жыл бұрын +2

    26:05 "Only very few artillery pieces could be brought along"
    I would have thought that anywhere that one or two could be dragged through, others could then be pulled through the same routes, in a long column.

  • Sagittarius A*
    Sagittarius A* 2 жыл бұрын +8

    I live about 100 Meters from the place where Kara Mustafas tent was standing - your map is quite accurate, respect!
    (The silk string served him right...)

  • Adrian
    Adrian  Жыл бұрын +9

    This story always makes me proud of my country

  • Napoléon I Bonaparte
    Napoléon I Bonaparte 2 жыл бұрын +693

    The message has been sent! Austria calls for aid!

    • Fanatyk Historii
      Fanatyk Historii  Жыл бұрын


      HAIKAL OR!ON SENT!NEL  Жыл бұрын

      I AM SO S0RRY P0LAND!!!

      HAIKAL OR!ON SENT!NEL  Жыл бұрын


    • SunmasterThirteen
      SunmasterThirteen  Жыл бұрын +1

      And my Axe!!

    • Gaol Miralis
      Gaol Miralis 2 жыл бұрын

      @Der Wuerger Okay? Not trying to be mean, but I don't really care. It was a reference to the Lord of the Rings, i'm not here to argue or anything, there are plenty of other comments if you wish to flex with your historical knowledge

  • Martek127
    Martek127  Жыл бұрын +2

    Fan Fact. Poland Street in London is named after "King of Poland" pub which was located there and was renamed in honor of John III Sobieski after the charge at Vienna

  • The thing that lives in my sink
    The thing that lives in my sink 2 жыл бұрын +5

    I hope you'll do a video about the first siege as well, everyone knows about the second siege but the first one is somewhat forgotten in comparison.

  • Vector Strike
    Vector Strike 10 ай бұрын +1

    The stuff of LEGENDS! Watched the first siege video and thought it was awesome, but this one... victory plucked from the jaws of defeat!
    It seems even a bit poetic: the last time (not this battle, but the entire war) Christian forces united against the Ottomans as one or even the HRE bulking up their forces to fight!

  • arun chaudhary
    arun chaudhary Ай бұрын +2

    "There is no time to lose My Lord, no time to lose at all" said he when the wall under his feet was ready to explode..

  • Stan Pski
    Stan Pski 2 жыл бұрын +7

    Absolutely great presentation. And congratulation on almost perfect pronunciation of foreign names.

  • HingerlAlois
    HingerlAlois 2 жыл бұрын +12

    Austria also signed defensive treaties with other German states of the Holy Roman Empire for example Bavaria and Saxony.
    It first signed the defensive treaty (against France and the Ottomans) with the Electorate of Bavaria on 26.01.1683.
    On 31.03.1683 Austria signed the treaty with Poland.
    The Elector of Bavaria Maximilian Emanuel II. came to the help of the Austrians during the Siege of Vienna with round about 11.000 Bavarian troops.
    The Bavarian Army as a standing army was founded in 1682 (with 7 regiments of infantry, 2 regiments of dragoons, 4 regiments of heavy cavalry and an artillery corps).
    Maximilian Emanuel II. supported the war against the Ottomans also in the following years with tens of thousands of Bavarian troops and commanded the HRE troops when they conquered Belgrade in 1688.
    He then had to redeploy his troops against France due to the start of the Nine Years War, which lasted from 1688 to 1697.

    • HingerlAlois
      HingerlAlois 2 жыл бұрын +2

      They sent a mix of infantry and cavalry.
      Together the German states sent circa 21.500 infantry and 7.500 cavalry.
      They also sent some cannons, but I think most of them didn’t reach the battlefield due to the rough terrain.

    • Gilmer
      Gilmer 2 жыл бұрын +1

      Yes, a lot of German states sent infantry, and Bavaria sent a lot. Franconia, Swabia, Saxony, Baden, Hesse-Darmstadt (if I get these names wrong, please forgive me and correct where needed).

  • MemoFromEssex
    MemoFromEssex 2 жыл бұрын +10

    Thanks for this!
    Not knowing much about this, I had always believed it was just the Winged Hussars who saved Vienna and never knew about the Duke of Lorraine.

    • That Total War Guy
      That Total War Guy  Жыл бұрын +1

      Alenas Kvasninas they hadn't. they took over zaolzie as it was disputed between poland and the czechs for some time. beyond that, the area had a significant polish population. and even after the war, the czechs got it back anyhow

    • TheBarser
      TheBarser 2 жыл бұрын +4

      That is what the Poles would like us all to think.

    • Biały
      Biały 2 жыл бұрын +3

      Few more decades and there will be no Polish King or Winged Hussars in this story... just wait.

  • Krzysztof Sobkowicz
    Krzysztof Sobkowicz 2 жыл бұрын +1

    The defensive agreement was actually signed on 01/04/1683 (2:56) however because of a prevalent custom in Poland-Lithuania Republic that 1st of April is a day when you make jokes on people, it was believed to assign a false date to the document (31/03) in order to prevent any ideas that the agreement was another joke

  • Justin Everhardus
    Justin Everhardus 2 жыл бұрын +4

    What an epic video, as always, thank you for your content!

    • Justin Everhardus
      Justin Everhardus 2 жыл бұрын

      @SandRhoman History I've learnt so much about the pike & shotte era which I barely ever knew about before thanks to your videos and for that I am genuinely thankful

    • SandRhoman History
      SandRhoman History  2 жыл бұрын +2

      Nice to hear that! Thanks!

  • Malicant
    Malicant  Жыл бұрын +3

    As Sabaton tells it: Then the Winged Hussars arrived!

  • Justin Castillo
    Justin Castillo 2 жыл бұрын +146


    • Mad skillz
      Mad skillz 2 жыл бұрын +4

      Rabbit 1000a they died, but not from laugher

  • Mjs24
    Mjs24 2 жыл бұрын

    The animations are perfect! More ottoman history would be great!

  • DonBandi1
    DonBandi1 2 жыл бұрын

    Quality content. Keep up good work!

  • Bikefarm Taiwan
    Bikefarm Taiwan 2 жыл бұрын +1

    wow- awesome job! Thanks for the effort you put into this.

  • Broken Bridge
    Broken Bridge 2 жыл бұрын +1

    Wonderful video. This siege was an epic one. The Ottoman's came very close to taking the city. This would make for an epic movie. Great job with the video.

    • Tori Keqi
      Tori Keqi 2 жыл бұрын +1

      Absolutely. The Ottoman prime minister leading the siege was Albanian and so was the family of prime ministers that ruled Ottoman Empire back than, Kuprulu family. It is said that if the Ottoman Empire would have taken Vienna in 1683 the Kuprulu Albanians that dominated Ottoman politics fron 1655 to 1711 would have replaced the Ottoman dynasty

  • Bernardo Torres
    Bernardo Torres  Жыл бұрын +7

    The next time in my life when I am in a very difficult situation and I see no way out, I will say to myself , “where are my winged hussars ?”

  • 673-T
    673-T 2 жыл бұрын +3

    Poland has suffered from several difficult years, in which it lost nearly 4,000,000 of its inhabitants due to wars, famines and epidemics, thousands of its villages were ravaged in what is known as the delugue, and it also suffered heavy defeats and heavy losses when the Turkish imperial army invaded it .. Austria and the Vatican helped Poland a lot during these difficult years: financially and militarily
    That is why Poland helped Austria

  • Siwa Szkotka
    Siwa Szkotka  Жыл бұрын +1

    I see a piece of great job here. Leaving a like and a sub. But have to add just one thing to it - Polish king Jan III Sobieski went late because of delay from Lithuanian side (Lithuania was in union with Poland since XIV century) and he finaly decided to move on without those allied forces. They show up when battle was over, but luckily polish troops came in right time in to right place ;) Europe has been saved not slained by... hordes. Afer this fail Ottoman army was broken and never grow up so strong again. If Vienna fall that day next would be Rome...

  • barbiquearea
    barbiquearea 2 жыл бұрын +257

    Kara Mustafa Pasha gets letter from the Sultan.
    Letter reads: "You have failed me for the last time"
    Kara Mustafa then force chokes to death

    • aksmex
      aksmex  Жыл бұрын

      He didn't order him to retreat from the siege, kinda just blaming the guy for the lose.

    • Muhammed Yılmaz
      Muhammed Yılmaz  Жыл бұрын +1

      ​@I need no channel youtube! Ottoman officials don't commit suicide. Where you gain this false information? Bearers of the execution order used to secretly reach officials and deliver the order of the execution. They used to bring soldiers with them as well in order to prevent opposition or escape of official who will be executed. In 1839, Grand Amiral of Ottoman Empire escaped with Ottoman Navy to rebellious governor of the Egypt due to afraid of death. In conclusion, wrongful executions and assassinations by state in Ottoman Empire damaged trust to government. Therefore in 1839, new Sultan Abdülmejid abolished extrajudicial executions.

    • I need no channel youtube!
      I need no channel youtube!  Жыл бұрын

      The ottomans did have a practice comperable to this.
      If an official was sent in dispatch a silk string from the palace it was a warrant of execution, and an opportunity for honorable suicide. Otherwise the official was to be strangled with the string.

    • yomin
      yomin  Жыл бұрын

      @Shahjahan Masood Gandalf was Obi wan

    • htf5555
      htf5555  Жыл бұрын +1

      @Edelweiss lmao what

  • Johann Esbourg
    Johann Esbourg  Жыл бұрын

    Another good video from you, as usual, thanks!
    (however, i think a litle correction is needed: He was called Thököly imre not Emeric Thököly. 1: in hungarian the first name is the secund, and the secund is the first
    2: Idk in witch language Imre translates to Emeric)

  • Editor RBR
    Editor RBR  Жыл бұрын +1

    What an absolutely desperate race against time. Great video, man. Thank you.

  • Anon Viewer
    Anon Viewer  Жыл бұрын

    Halting an empire from the east.
    6:56 Digging in.
    12:00 Crumbling under the pressure.
    26:16 Reinforcements arrive.

  • UnclePutte
    UnclePutte 2 жыл бұрын +4

    Thank God for Kara Mustafa. An ambitious fool at the helm of the strongest army of the era.
    Mika Waltari wrote a fancy yarn about these events in his "The Adventurer". Don't mind the boring title, the rest of the work was better-translated. Together with its first part, "The Wanderer" (ugh) it collates a great and winding adventure for any and all fans of historical accuracy.

    • Of Spear and Smoke
      Of Spear and Smoke 9 ай бұрын

      This was *not* the strongest army of the era. Ottoman forces weren't the most cutting edge even by then, and Louis XIV's France had the potential to mobilise three times as many soldiers. And that's soldiers, not soldiers *and* camp retinues, of which there were only around 110-140 thousand at Vienna.

  • etetepete
    etetepete 2 жыл бұрын +10

    23:16 Most epic Tower Defense duel ever.
    Glory to the defenders of the siege!

  • Andreas Stangl
    Andreas Stangl 2 жыл бұрын

    Great video that I really enjoyed. But the map that you introduce at 6:20 is not pointing north. The Danube running from north to south at Vienna is more to the east of the city, the Wien running from west to east more to the south.

  • Fabio Andreatta
    Fabio Andreatta 2 жыл бұрын +2

    Your animations are getting better with every single video. Amazing

  • Estrid Melissa
    Estrid Melissa  Жыл бұрын +14

    I wonder if this battle could have been Tolkien's inspiration for the siege of Minas Tirith? And the winged Hussars of Poland = the ridars of Rohan coming to their aid breaking the siege in the battle of Pelennor?

    • Estrid Melissa
      Estrid Melissa 8 ай бұрын

      @Of Spear and Smoke I am aware, that the Rohirrim were based on Anglo-Saxon culture. However the movies picture them more like the Vikings ......
      But - I talk about the battle of Pelennor, where Rohirrim rides to the aid of Minas Tirith, who is surrounded by orcs, like Vienna was sieged by the muslims in 1683.
      Here jan Sobiesky broke the siege and prevented the muslim turks to take Vienna - thus turning the tide that finally drove the turks out of Europe.
      That is not an allegory - but it might have been what Tolkien was inspired of.
      Being a historian, he used inspiration from ww1, old Norse culture, Finnish folktales - and many other historic events.
      He also uses the Corsairs - which were islamic pirats from turkey and the Barbary-coast, who terrorised the Mediterranean and Atlantic oceans until mid-19.th century.
      So the Poles may be credited with saving Europe from becoming islamic.
      Thank you, Poland!

    • demilung
      demilung 9 ай бұрын

      @Of Spear and Smoke Yes, I didn't say the ghosts were at the battle, the ghosts removed the Umbar blockade which allowed reinforcement from other regions of Gondor to arrive by ship.

    • Of Spear and Smoke
      Of Spear and Smoke 9 ай бұрын

      @demilung In the books, the Army of the Dead is released right after dealing with the Umbar corsairs. They do not participate in the battle of the Pelennor Fields.

    • Of Spear and Smoke
      Of Spear and Smoke 9 ай бұрын +1

      No. Very unlikely. Rohan was based on Anglo-Saxon and Old English culture, never was there any quote by Tolkien to suggest that, and the man himself hated allegory. This is a myth we Poles love to propagate, though. I suppose it makes us feel all fuzzy inside.

    • demilung
      demilung  Жыл бұрын +1

      And somewhat similarly, the battle was won by the infantry army arriving by sea after Aragorn and his ghost army removed the pirate blockade, but everyone remembers the riders, even though they didn't scream "Death" upon seeing the size of the enemy army out of optimism

  • Admiral Tiberius
    Admiral Tiberius 2 жыл бұрын +1139

    "Stand by for Sabaton references by the bucket load."

    • Da Bome
      Da Bome  Жыл бұрын +1

      Canonballs are fallin out from the sky
      Janniserry's are you ready to die 💪

    • Celtic Batman
      Celtic Batman  Жыл бұрын

      Dann kamen die geflügelten Husaren an.

    • Celtic Batman
      Celtic Batman  Жыл бұрын

      They're outnumbered 15 to one
      And the battle's begun
      Then the winged hussars arrived
      Coming down the mountainside
      Then the winged hussars arrived
      Coming down they turned the tide

    • Lion2508
      Lion2508  Жыл бұрын +2


    • Indriķis Birzis
      Indriķis Birzis  Жыл бұрын +3

      There are also LotR references.

  • nesidler
    nesidler  Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact: the then ottoman sultan mehmed 4 was nicknamed mehmed the hunter. He loved hunting so much that he was overthrown by the army in 1687 since he often neglected his duties.

    • Of Spear and Smoke
      Of Spear and Smoke 9 ай бұрын +1

      I... Did not know that. This is perhaps my new favourite Turkish history tidbit.

  • Jeremy Johnson
    Jeremy Johnson  Жыл бұрын

    Amazing video! Your work is absolutely magnificent. Good job.

  • Farmace Rhaiden
    Farmace Rhaiden  Жыл бұрын +1

    The legend states that a pastry maker made one with the form of a crescent moon to commemorate and celebrate the ottoman's defeat. It would be brung to France by Marie Antoinette from Asutria and would become the "croissant" we all know to day. The word "viennoiserie" used in french so comes from Vienna and this victory !

  • RedTree123
    RedTree123 2 жыл бұрын +29

    Love this video! Especially because its about my homeland, Austria.