The crusades were also mainly concentrated on Abrahamic Holy Sites, considered Holy by the Muslims, Christians & Jewish people. Conflict was always centered on who rightfully owned those Holy Lands. The Christians didn't like the Muslims taking control of those Holy sacred sites & the Muslims didn't like that it should fall into the hands of the Christians.
It is always nice to see different perspectives on a single event and not just one. I think more people would be better off doing this. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
@Feras Dude. How do you know all of this stuff? I don’t mean to question your knowledge in a malicious way at all. I’m genuinely curious as to how you’ve learned all of this middle eastern history… I’m curious to understand more. This video makes them out to be the peaceful martyrs of the world. That’s not altogether true but at least they didn’t colonize everybody like the west lol. So really where did you become educated about the middle east?
The funny thing is that it is true. The bias of any self country is too too funny. The only way to know the truth it read other peoples perspective on the matters.
I love the brutal simplicity of medieval and early modern ethnography. Europeans tended to call all Middle Eastern Muslims "Turks", and it also turns out people in the Middle East just called European Christians "Franks".
@Gutsu not at all, the real was is French “sarrasin” and it was the deformation of the Arabic word “charqiyin” which means I believe the eastern people or the people from the east, the moors were the North Africans Berbers, and the Turks were the seljukids Turk at that time
What really took the cake was at 8:59, when the graphic showing al-Qalanisi chronicling the crusades went right to left, because Arabic is written right to left. Outstanding attention to detail as always! You guys deliver once again!
@The Alphatitan British people have a better grasp of world history then almost all other countries in my experience. But I don’t see what you mean by these people have a British bias. I’d highly disagree.
Really interesting video. On a related note, are you maybe planning to do a similar one on the Muslim perspective on the Mongol invasions? They were far more destructive to the Muslim world than the crusades so they should have left a far more permanent impression, right?
@Hadi Afshar same goes for Indian ( muslims) we use to study a lot about Mongol invasion in Persia and iraq when it comes omes to crusades only salahuddin ayyubi name is remembered and his history is explained as oral folks when they are child I still know my grandparents love to tell about him to us his valor and all but Mongols destruction of Baghdad was the most terrifying event that I have learnt from my grandparents , although most of Indian muslims didn't take interest in their history since Hindu majority are trying to change history by making us look baf throughout Indian history and their bragging about themselves through our history book su we learn about Islamic history through our parents and quran teacher and Friday speech , I am not offending any hindu but this is reality the history is changing in India .... So much....
Egyptian here, I recall my father and grandfathers calling a child that is messing things around and destroying stuff in the house "Tatar" (What you call the Mongols, they call them by this more often here). Same goes for basically anything chaotic and harmful, for example at certain times of the year a type of pests attacked the gardens and they called them likewise. So, yeah, the Mongols aren't completely forgotten here. But, I'm quite sure if someone Egyptian knows about the crusades they know about the Mongols, and vise-versa. They are events that attract them same type of history-loving people.
@mangrizli I thought burj Khalifa was the largest building in the world Either that or the patronus towers in Malaysia Or maybe the taj mahal in india
For history enthusiasts, recommend the book called "The Crusades through Arab Eyes" from Amin Maalouf. The book is really good at explaining the people's situation and political state in muslim nations.
The crusades are rarely talked about from the Muslim perspective, so I found this video very interesting, thank you for bringing it and I hope you take more videos of this type
Hence the importance of translation. For instance, as an Arab I always wondered about the views of the west on muslim conquests, since all what we read comes from the muslim point of view.
@j p i agree with you, if any channel, such as Kurzgesagt -- that produce very trusted and high quality content -- starting faking their videos, then most people would just simply believe it
@Florian Pollard this is youtube entertainment. nobody should blindly trust any of these videos as credible sources of historical information. i'm sure they're accurate a lot of the time but that isn't the point.
This prespective only needs one good movie or series to be known, and I believe it well hit cuz it cracks all previous patterns of thought that developed in many areas over time to this point.
I think it is something historians have to do to be credible. More then anyone else historians need to be as objective as possible and cover all angles. So indeed a pretty profesional video.
Wonderful video! We in the West hear virtually nothing from the Muslim side and rarely consider how the Crusades were viewed from their side. Great stuff!
This is why accurate and impartial history education is so vital. Knowledge lives in the brain, while legends live in the heart, with hatred looming in it's cellar. Thank you Kings and Generals for the service you do to humankind!
While the scientific approach to historical events is vital, legend and mythology is very important too. Myths get a bad connotation these days, buts they are the force which gives a society cohesion and willpower to fight through difficult times. What would be of the Reconquista without the myths of Pelagio and El Cid? Learning the science of history is not abou debunking myths more than it’s to understand why they exist.
@The Renegade Piano Technician This one is nothing like that lol. The territory the crusaders were taking back was culturally western for hundreds of years before Islam even existed, there's no debate about it, they were there way before the Muslims were.
@Joanna George transitive verb. 1 : to cause to come into being. 2a : to bring about often by surmounting obstacles : accomplish effect a settlement of a dispute. b : to put into operation the duty of the legislature to effect the will of the citizens.
"Major cities of the Islamic world like Baghdad hosted hundreds of thousands of inhabitants while Paris and London hosted twenty thousand each".. I know it's a bit away from the original topic but as a person who's born in Iraq It breaks my heart to see what this great nation has become nowadays .. Hopefully we will build our homeland one day .. pardon my poor English btw ( My second language😅) Edit : I can keep taking about my point of view forever and people will still misunderstand me🤦🏻♂️ Edit2 : please read my reply regarding (US/IRAN) carefully then I will answer your questions. Edit 3 :- I'm not replying to anyone one anymore💀
It seems like the Arab view about the Franks isn’t really much different from the ancient Romans and Greeks, who thought the cold climate of Gaul and Germany is what made them uncivilised, but also what made them great warriors at the same time.
@Aoki Aoki You absolutely have no idea how sophisticated Germanic warfare actually was. It were the Germanics that defeated Atilla. The Romans loved using Germanic men as soldiers in the Roman armies, because of their fighting prowess. By the way, the Byzantines hired Norsemen as Varangians, whom were the most elite fighting force of their time. Stop twisting history to your own feelings. You must be insecure about yourself and feel the need to talk down on other people their heritage.
@Joella Z "The Gauls great warrior" LMAO. The Romans and Greeks were the best fighters of their time while the Gauls were weak asf and easy to defeat in warfare and poorly disciplined. Even the military elite of Carthage were stronger than a Gallic warrior. 🤣🤣🤣 Also in the 4th century AD they were Romans no longer Celts, so you said bullshit.
@Joella Z Have you read Ibn Khaldun's book? Nice What do you think about his theory about generations? Tough times make strong men. Strong men create good times Good times make weak men. Weak men create hard times And the theory is that the first generation builds, the second enjoys, and the third destroys In your opinion, to which generation does the current generation of Europe and America belong?
Sultan Saladin - the life and legend by Jonathan Phillips. It is a well balanced account of the pre third crusade the third crusade and the lasting legacy of Saladin
@The Awesome Man He was actually arab looks where his ancestors descended from then you wouldn't see him as Kurdish and as far as I know he never claimed to be Kurdish his ancestors were the The Sabaeans,Sabeans or The AzdI think he just wanted to be a good Muslim and correct me if I'm wrong
One of my favorite stories from Ibn Munqidh is where he went into the mosque of al-Aqsa, which had been occupied by the Templars at the time. Despite their modern association with being zealous and intolerant of non-Christians, they provided a him space to pray, though this was interrupted by a Frankish man who didn't understand why Ibn Munqidh wasn't praying to the east, and so the Templar had to eject the man. However, he managed to escape and tried to turn Ibn Muqidh again, after which the Templar explained that the man had only recently arrived, and didn't understand why Muslims would pray towards the qiblah. Though still cursing the Franks "(the scourge of Allah upon them!)" in his texts, he still denotes that: "Among the Franks, we notice those who have come to dwell in our midst and who have become accustomed to the society of [Muslims]. They are greatly superior to those who have more recently joined them in the country which they occupy. They form, in fact, an exception which must not be made into a rule," which goes to show a very unique culture between the poulain that settled within the Levant to the Latins who took their booty and returned to Europe.
علي ياسر They did. They were dispersed amongst many countries, Switzerland, Malta, Portugal, Spain and indeed Germany too. In fact some went to Scotland and England. They gained prominence in Malta and Switzerland just because they are small countries, but they were influential in other countries too.
Great video! I never thought about this type of question. If you're doing more on medieval warfare, would you consider one on how the knightly orders worked? The Templars, Hospitaliers, Teutonics etc. I've tried researching it myself but it's still confusing.
Love hearing different perspectives! Thank you for exploring this topic. I served in Afghanistan and while I was there it was a privilege in hearing the Afghani perspective through our interpreters when we dealt with the Afghan contractors we worked with. Working with those guys it made me realize that in the long run we are all just a bunch of dumb humans spinning around a ball of nuclear hellfire. By hearing the different perspectives it made me more compassionate and made me realize that there are way more good people in this world than evil. It is unfortunate that we as humans have to find a reason to kill each other over ultimately trivial things when most of us just want to live our lives and not be bothered by shitty people/governments.
Its ok brother...you did what was expected of you as a soldier...its always been like this since the beginning of time..old powerful men arguing and yound men dying for reasons most dont really know. 😥 I hope at least you found some peace and solace while you're up there in the mountains..salam brother. 🙏🏾
At the end of the video you mention that the crusades don't have much impact on modern culture, I believe the levantine crusades really don't, but the reconquista basically formed the Iberian culture and has a great impact on Latin American culture. Looking for a video about that in the future.
@Blind the Rapper lol or killed u forgot to mention how savage and unmerciful they were to muslims and jews they tortured and killed or expelled anyone that didn’t want Christianity
For anyone looking for a book that uses excerpts from many different Islamic scholars to sum up the Islamic perspective of the crusades, I would suggest *Arab Historians of the Crusades* by Francesco Gabrieli, it is great!
You guys have outdone yourself here. I am a big fan of this period in history and enjoy reading & watching content on this period. This is the first time I encounter a piece looking at crusades from the others point of view. I like 👍🏽
This is why I prefer Kings and Generals to Armchair Historian. "From the other perspective" videos here are actually diverse and accurate, and videos cover a very wide range of topics from areas like India and Arabia that deserve more attention. Thank you!!
The thing every Frankish children learn the most at school about the crusade episodes, is that moment when Saladin sends his own doctor to diagnose and treat Baudouin IV le Lépreux, king of Jerusalem. This event shows Saladin was a honorable enemy, even if he was a sarrasin de ses maures.
@JAAACK AISSA "Sarrasin" was the word for "muslim" during the medieval time of the outremer (oversea, crusader states). I believe it's "saracen" in English. "Maures" is the French spelling for "moors". "Sarrasin de ses maures" is a joke and an insult I just invented, only a French speaker could understand. It sounds the same as "sarrasin de ses morts", which designates him and his dead ancestors, in an insulting way.
Timur Sayfullah The word you’re looking for is indulgence. Only Catholic Christians practiced indulgence, and that was many hundreds of years ago. Catholics have not paid their pastors for forgiveness for literally hundreds of years. This diligence you speak of is done by all Christians, that is, donating to keep their local church running. It’s a tenet of Christianity to donate, which is why Christians have given away the most amount of money of any group in history. Mind you I’m not Christian, if this came off like I was.
Timur Sayfullah No, my Father is Algerian born (born in Constantine) but his family relocated in the 30s to Tunis, have a lot of Family in Tunisia and Algeria
Phenomenal video I greatly thank you guys at the K & G channel for your very meticulous research and respect for other perspectives. I hope one day instead of fighting and bickering and all the nonsense embroiling these two great faiths , comes more understanding between their peoples. Best of wishes in the new year!
@Raquib Hasib 🤦♂️Considering it's happened for literally multi-thousands of years, with people far more faithful than today, and yet nothing has happened.🤷 Nothing will ever happen, because skydaddy doesn't exist. 🤣😂
@Jon Hall I believed in religion. In 🌍 so called strong/ elite society did , doing and will do a lot of unjust work ( murder , robbery, rape u name it) against poor/ weak people. Do you really think this will go without payback ???
The manga and anime Altair: A Record of Battles (Shoukoku no Altair) really took the Muslim perspective almost precisely as laid out in the plot and story, and also how it is explained in this video. It is however still a fiction; many events and historical figures portrayed are greatly exaggerated or changed to fit the narrative of the story.
@_Paws_ I’m gonna check this out. Thanks for letting me know. I needed a nee anime to watch. I like Arslan Senki as well. A good one for how corruption plays out.
@Sweller Ferret2 Nobody blames terror attacks on the crusades only the stupid people do that. It was the dismantlement of the Ottoman Empire in the early 20th Century into states which did not align to religious or ethnic people groups. If you look at the 50s 60s and early 70s the middle east generally was stable and prosperous. The subsequent unnecesary wars in Iraq caused the most problems as the US stayed in the country years after they had won. Then many weak states such as Iraq and Syria had a lot of instability during the Arab spring a western supported ideal. The disbanded Iraqi Army went to many extremist groups after 2011. And you seriously want make me believe that 9/11 was actually done by Al qaeda. If you even research enough the Taliban agreed to had over bin laden but the US did not want that. Focus on your own countrys extremists who shoot schools and riot at the capital building looting at blm protests ect. Most death in the 20th century and 21st century were caused by Christians and Athiests who were at the top
despite the difference prespective between both of them, i love the warrior heart aspect inside both of them, they fight for what they believe is right. peace be upon you all brothers and sisters.
@Jaif “Mary has been venerated since early Christianity,[6][7] and is considered by millions to be the holiest and greatest saint because of her extraordinary virtues as seen at the Annunciation by the archangel Gabriel. She is said to have miraculously appeared to believers many times over the centuries. The Eastern and Oriental Orthodox, Catholic, Anglican, and Lutheran churches believe that Mary, as mother of Jesus, is the Theotokos (Mother of God; Θεοτόκος).” All of fucking the Christian’s sects venerate Mary, and the pope is just a religious leader, not someone of worship. Pagans are any religion who aren’t abrahamic, which exclude Judaism, Islam and Christianity. The Roman Catholic church is a Christian church. The pope is a chief pastor, essentially less venerated than any prophet, which in the Old Testament includes Abraham, Moses and many others. By your definition, all Christian’s are pagans.
You really have to respect that they make these high quality videos without showing any bias towards any side and with complete objectivity. Another job well done.
@Andrey Dragomirov In 1st para, they were clearly behind their Roman past. Even Byzantines began to decline, thanks to the 4th crusade. In 2nd para, you clearly misinterpreted half of what I had said. In third para, if all of them had really learned from Romans, then care to explain why Franks stick with Partition system and destroyed their *last chance* to restore Rome(HRE definitely don't count as Roman Empire, same for anything Germanic after Charlemagne's death) In 4th para, I know that serfdom existed since Late Roman Empire, but it became extremely common in the middle ages. And while the church did try to reduce slavery (I do give credit where it's due), the nobles simply tried to find loopholes and the situation of the serfs increasingly deteriorated. In fact, in some places, there was little practical difference between a serf and a slave. In the 5th para, please don't confuse coincidence with cause effect relationship. And care to explain how Christianity helped in scientific development by persecuting Coppernicus and Galelio Galelie. Also in 5th para, I clearly know how the things were back then. I clearly know that such things were unfortunately extremely common. So maybe it's time to finally learn from the past mistakes, to transcend beyond such divisions, and to live together peacefully, for nothing is greater than humanity itself.
@SHEATINA Cosmetics I've no issue with that. I totally agree with you that cultural bias will exist in every society. I'm simply saying there's a limit to that. for example I can't possibly read about French history without knowing they have had -in simple words- bitter enmity with England. you can't read about Greek history without passing by Alexander the great. similarly, you can't read about Arab history without coming across Arab poetry. neglecting these sort of things, changing them, or -even worse- falsifying them is no doubt a bias.
@Amr El-Tayeb Mate we in Europe usually don't read these books from Arab perspective. They are not even available in book shelfs etc. Everything is written by europeans for europeans. Their statement stays true.
@madhu rawat then you probably didn't watch the video. I'm a subscriber since the early days of this channel and I've watched all their videos on Islamic and non-Islamic hisory. That's why I know they are biased.
@Amr El-Tayeb This channel had praised Khalid's skill as a military commander and had also made a video about islamic golden age. At the same time, they had also called out some of the atrocities committed by them and also the infighting within the ummah. I am not sure about the accuracy of the content, but they are seemingly *not* biased.
Ibnu al Athir my favorite historian to read about when i was in school. He wrote so many stuff about history of not just in the middle east but also in Asia and Europe.
I think this is the best historic video I've ever seen ❤️ from any West channel. Very neutral, truthfull perspective ❤️ Specially the last part when you said about present day situation.
The book of Oussama Ibn Mounqidh is a very good book to read. It's short but you can see the perspective of a muslim on the crusade who are curious, where the ennemy is more the islamic court scheme that the new warrior of the west etc... a book that you need to read to understand the crusade !
Understanding the modern world requires an understanding of history, especially from each others perspectives. The Muslim world as the video points out largely saw the western colonial expansion as a continuation of the crusades. As part of their independence struggles many Muslim nations adopted symbols dating back to the crusader period like Egypt which adopted the eagle of Saladin on its flag. European sailors and pirates operating in the Indian Ocean were also referred to as Firangis (Franks).
Correction on Kitab al-Jihad: the literal translation of the book’s title is incorrect and doesn't even mean 'holy war' which is literally translated to Arabic as Al-harb Al-muqadas. The term jihad comes from the tri-root word juhd which literally means effort. So 'jihad' actually means to struggle or exert one's utmost effort. Otherwise, this simple video was a nice watch that doesn't include all the details mentioned in many history books and accounts by Muslim scholars and historians.
Yeah, jihad means struggle. The lesser Jihad is a fair and justified non-agression war to please and gain favour of Allah, and the greater jihad is the war against your nefs (evil desires, temptations and inclinations).
Nuraddin Zengi and Baybars had the best win ratio against Crusaders, Saladin although reputed more, failed to produce a decent record losing several battles such as Montgisard, Acre, Arsuf, Jaffa, Belvoir,...
Turkish based, only glorifies his Turkish follow, dude we arabs have the most popular and win ratio generals and warriors in the islamic history and we didn’t do what you did, if you wanna go down this road you stand no chance.😂
I think Saladin is more reputable because he's seen as more noble in his intent, including helping Richard the lionheart get back on his horse before they kept fighting. He's somewhat liked in the European world too, because that act is seen as chivalrous.
@Silence me Violate me Oh so crusaders can't have greedy muslims who look after their own interests in their cru§ading team? Some people want power at the expense of lives. And for saudi kings who butcher their people every friday , commit human right abuses and war crimes in Yemen; they are the ideal sort of friends, Aren't they? For the human right and democracy champion, befriending such kings is not what every body thought can or should happen? Especially for the US's self righteous approach. Waging wars for ones greed is not different from a crusade, is it? History is repeating itself while some people here really do believe that the victim is to blame for being killed, harmed or looted. The world is not as civilized as you wish it to be. Wars are being waged till to this day while some people have the sheer audacity to claim its all right and justified, given ones's "friendship status". Both friends are to be blamed here.
It seems to me that most of the Muslim scholars have the same perspective as Christian scholars, that it was a battle between religions, rather than a battle between political entities that incorporated religion to justify their actions and war.
@Fellas Films Inc None of the major religions are as homogeneous as many make them out to be. Lots of perspectives (many conflicting) within a religion.
@savioblanc Au contraire, many leaders and groups gained tremendous wealth. Of course many later lost lost it. Some sooner and some later. For soem leader, especially Euopean leaders, it gave them credibility and prestige that that may not have parleyed into wealth, but it gave them influence and power. Of course, if you died, you kind of lost everything. lol
Any idea for K&G to come into South and East Asia ? :) It could take this channel to new unconquered highly potential territories lol. It would be great if you can study and analyse about medieval Cholas of Tamil country. They are one of the fascinating Empires of not only Indian history but even in the whole of Asia.
I really I really love those counts of when they talk about the Europeans from the other cultures and how they saw us back then. Actually it's still relevant today
one must appreciate the open minded idividuals whatever background they could be from, specially when judging historical events, in this video we see that clearly, thanks
The thing most people so not know is that he was a fairly impactful monarch before the crusades, instrumental for shaping the beginnings of a lot of history that would even impact our modern world.
I find it hilarious that it's mentioned in just about every crusade video. My favorite is from History Matter where it's just his name and then a quick clip of him sinking headfirst into the river.
@The D storm Salahudeen was quite relieved as the german host posed quite a dilemma. Even with the ressources of egypt and syria fighting against three european kingdoms namely France, England and on top of that germany would have been a serious stretch.
In the last statement it should be made clear that the unimportance of the crusades to modernity is only in discourse and in (most) westerners minds, but not a historical fact. I feel that it did a great impact on Europe with consequences leading to nowadays, including the construction of the image of the islamic world in the West and an "opening" to a bigger world
Great Video! But I'm a bit surprised you didn't ascribe the disastrous outcome of the Battle of Hattin as the iconic end of the second crusade for the Christians.
History can tell us a lot. I really admire this channel. For the crusades, as Muslims we see them to be religious driven, and they are still going on until now despite some political factors. For the Mongolian invasion, they have done a lot of destruction as well at that time.
Great video, but I have to point out one thing. Never underestimate the power of the ideas created around crusades. In Middle East, things grew organically, so it was very convenient to relate Crusades with colonization efforts. We would probably have the same thing should the Ottoman empire colonized the whole Europe. It is, however, also wrong to say that only some politicians in Middle East use Crusades as a political argument. Remember George W. Bush and his reference to Crusades? It was such a powerful reference and such a strong motivation to rally people around. So, the myths of Crusades are alive and healthy (and dangerous) on all sides. It is great that you put so much effort in clarifying these events, so we have less myths and more facts. That really helps. Great job!
I like this way of understanding other people intentions and motivations. Just like in AoT Reiner looks like a terrible traitor but when you know why is he like that it makes complete sense and not some dudes who are evil cause of of their greed for money and power most of the time.
in my country(Indonesia), while studying the history of Islamic civilization. The reason for the crusade was because of the defeat of emperor Romanus in the manzikert war. Emperor Romanus was betrayed by aristocrats, nobles, and the church, when he went to the battlefield in his capital already appointed by the new emperor. So that his army which initially numbered 200 thousand so divided only 50 thousand left and eventually lost the war manzikert. The Muslim army that won the war captured the byzantium emperor and did not kill him but paraded him to the gates of Constantinople with the flag of tawhid in his procession. This incident is considered the cause of the crusade. Tragically, Emperor Romanus faced a coup by John Doucas, his political rival. Emperor Romanus' wife was forced into the monastery, while she was imprisoned in Sicily. After pledging not to reclaim his throne from Emperor Michael VII Doucas, Romanus was blinded on June 29, 1072, and died shortly afterwards from a severe infection from the threading of his eyes. In 1084, the Seljuk Sultanate conquered Antioch (now Antakya, Turkey) and the City of Nicaea in 1092.
Amazing video. Would you make a video about why today’s Middle East is in decline/less developed than Europe? Why they swapped places as Europe much more developed compared to Middle East?
@Timothy Matthews Which tends to be added through development which many middle eastern countries are able to do aside from the war torn ones. Now you did mention that, they would be undeveloped even if they did not have those components which is not exactly true. Many countries have not yet reach the developed status mostly due to a few factors such as economic diversity despite their quality of life being equal or better to developed nations (this includes intelligence level among population, wealth, access to healthcare etc). The developed status may also be somewhat political, tho this is more rarer as it depends on what development system you are using. For example, both China and Russia are seen as superpowers with China poised to take the economic super powers status from the us within 15 years as it has already taken 8 of the 4 Hyperpower criteria from the US yet are not considered developed nations with Russia its more of their economy while for China, it more political rather than economical. Countries like the US for example have been usually defined as “fourth world” as a term to describe a country which has been awarded the developed nation status yet has a large part of the nation as development and needs towards its citizen around undeveloped nations in relation to the more around the lines of the mid tier to low tier undeveloped nations not those who are in the upper tier and qualify or will soon reach the developed status. For the middle eastern the largest factor holding several countries from having its developed status is the lack economic diversity. Moving on, some modern daily systems or infrastructure are not European eg: biometric passport. Furthermore, if you read up on the gunpowder empires and also read up on the golden ages you would have known what went through. You would know they had sewage systems during their own era, roads, light lamps etc. You might be comparing it to the modern day development etc which is far from being uniquely European as we are in a new Industrial Age in which a large contribution comes from outside the western world. If you want to talk about how historical impact led to this new age being formed than you would need to credit the Islamic golden age for the European renaissance. Lastly, to add why I asked you to read about the gunpowder empires was due to them in particular the Mughal we’re going through proto-industrial revolution which may have influenced Great Britain to move towards the industrial revolution. The French benefited from their allies the Tipu Sultanate that was also going through an proto industrial revolution. While outside of the Indian subcontinent song China historically were going through a stage of proto-industrial revolution.
@Made A Channel Just Cause I Can A country can have the best education in the world, the best rulers in the world, and the most peace in the world, but without automobiles, trains, factories, paved roads, sewage treatment, and the other things that come with development, it is still not developed. The Middle East would be undeveloped even if it never had the things you mention.
@Timothy Matthews yeah this is true comment. And dont forger Rönesans and scince factor. Ottomans could not pass into the age of science. More precisely, they did not accept science as something important. and science turned into technology was the end of the empire
That was different and I believe pretty fair both sides were mentioned on having committed atrocities it made me want to look up some of their historians writings
Yes I can definitely say that until I actually went over the crusades in college, up till then I was only familiar with Richard the Lionheart and the 3rd crusade and that was probably because of Robinhood so ya I just thought the crusaders we're the "good guys", but then once you go back to the start of the crusades and then fast forward to the I think it's the 4th or 5th crusade (depends on if you count the child or pesent ones) were the crusaders and Dandalo sack and slaughter only other Catholic holdings toping it off with the taking of Constantinople, they never even make it to Egypt. It's like trying to go fight Russia but instead of cold and snow you got heat and sand no one can take it or hold it just like Russia
7:59: "Kitab al Dshihad" dosn't mean "The Book of Holy War" but "The Book of strive/struggle". Dshihad doesn't mean anything near "war" or "holy", but struggle itself. As such someone can do dshihad to get better grades at school etc. In this context it's about the struggle to maintain and keep the Islamic Realm as the Christian offensives were a threatening it. In WW1 the Ottoman Empire announced the "Dshihad-i Ekber" which can be translated as "The Great Struggle" to defend the Empire and as such to defend the Islamic Realm. You can interpret that this struggle is about war and a holy mission to guard the future and independence of the Islamic religion and Caliphate, but not in the same "holy war" manner as the Crusades. So basically it's wrong to translate "Dshihad" as "Holy War".
@possumGFX why does you and your people so harsh and rude? By the way, European version aka modern version of 'one thousand one night' are written by the france, so your point?
@Horvard Pasha Why isnt it 100%? If Allah is the only one true god and ol' Mo the childlover his prophet why are there even any other gods and religions? Why are they even older and why are there religions and sects evolving after Mo flew his unicorn to heaven? If Allah decided to reveal himself to the people then why did he allow other concepts of gods, paganism, polytheism even to spread among his creation? And why did he chose Mo who was a rather insignifcant warlord in a world full of warlords in the middle of nowhere as his prophet? Why did Allah miss out on the american continent, east asia, europe, afrika, australia? Shouldnt a god who cares to spread his existence to give believers a chance to go to haven like...disribute the knowledge evenly among all humans on earth? And what about those who died long before Mo came around, they kind of got the stick, dont they..i mean..never getting even a chance to learn about that hot new god in the first place. For someone who knows all Allah for sure seems to be really bad at spreading his word around. And how come children never come up with Allah as their god but always with the god of their parents and their pals. Why isnt that no child born in Tokyo saying."you know what...i feel like Allah it is." ? Because religion is a social concept that provides answers that are conviniently tied to a belief system to the one question that can not be answered...what happens when we die. And every single religion answers this question the same way..."here ..read this book i wrote...by the way I know how it is really meant and if you worry about your eternal wellbeing you better cut off the foreskin of your sons, kill or convert all that dont believe in my book and make sure i am always happy as the guy in the sky has chosen me and is talking only to me...conviniently. Youll see after you die." Do you remember life before you were born? Thats how your life will be after you died. End of story. I am not ignorant, my dude. I just say it like it is. I dont have to know when "One Thousand and One Nights" was written and by whom to know its a fairy tale. Even if that offends you. I am not polite to people who want to push their religious nonesense on me.
just as a little clarification. "Kitab-al Jihad" would translate to "Book of struggle" or "Book of striving" and not "Book of holy war". "war" is "harb" in arabic in this connotation.
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The crusades were also mainly concentrated on Abrahamic Holy Sites, considered Holy by the Muslims, Christians & Jewish people. Conflict was always centered on who rightfully owned those Holy Lands. The Christians didn't like the Muslims taking control of those Holy sacred sites & the Muslims didn't like that it should fall into the hands of the Christians.
franks fought with high number against low numberd Muslim army.But at the end,they were defeated.
It is always nice to see different perspectives on a single event and not just one. I think more people would be better off doing this. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
@Feras Dude. How do you know all of this stuff? I don’t mean to question your knowledge in a malicious way at all. I’m genuinely curious as to how you’ve learned all of this middle eastern history… I’m curious to understand more. This video makes them out to be the peaceful martyrs of the world. That’s not altogether true but at least they didn’t colonize everybody like the west lol. So really where did you become educated about the middle east?
@Feras Just because bush said it was a crusade doesn’t mean it was a crusade lol. 2001 by definition was not a crusade.
The funny thing is that it is true. The bias of any self country is too too funny. The only way to know the truth it read other peoples perspective on the matters.
I love the brutal simplicity of medieval and early modern ethnography. Europeans tended to call all Middle Eastern Muslims "Turks", and it also turns out people in the Middle East just called European Christians "Franks".
@Yanis Abtout Sarrasin was used during Roman Empire era, even before the Normands invaded Frankia and French was born.
@Gutsu not at all, the real was is French “sarrasin” and it was the deformation of the Arabic word “charqiyin” which means I believe the eastern people or the people from the east, the moors were the North Africans Berbers, and the Turks were the seljukids Turk at that time
Ah yes, ignorance. The good ol' days.
@Samy randome "Gawri" maybe comes from the Turkish word "gavur". It's an old word to describe the christians/westerners.
@Joella Z only rare because their armies were small and needed them for defense against invasions. My thoughts
What really took the cake was at 8:59, when the graphic showing al-Qalanisi chronicling the crusades went right to left, because Arabic is written right to left. Outstanding attention to detail as always! You guys deliver once again!
@S .F bit like Muslims now then.
@The Alphatitan British people have a better grasp of world history then almost all other countries in my experience. But I don’t see what you mean by these people have a British bias. I’d highly disagree.
well noted
Really interesting video. On a related note, are you maybe planning to do a similar one on the Muslim perspective on the Mongol invasions? They were far more destructive to the Muslim world than the crusades so they should have left a far more permanent impression, right?
@Gutsu if the iraqi emir could ask syrians or selujks for help all that wouldn't happen.
@A venti dble chchlate chip frappucino mogols must be warriors.
@Hadi Afshar same goes for Indian ( muslims) we use to study a lot about Mongol invasion in Persia and iraq when it comes omes to crusades only salahuddin ayyubi name is remembered and his history is explained as oral folks when they are child I still know my grandparents love to tell about him to us his valor and all but Mongols destruction of Baghdad was the most terrifying event that I have learnt from my grandparents , although most of Indian muslims didn't take interest in their history since Hindu majority are trying to change history by making us look baf throughout Indian history and their bragging about themselves through our history book su we learn about Islamic history through our parents and quran teacher and Friday speech , I am not offending any hindu but this is reality the history is changing in India .... So much....
Egyptian here, I recall my father and grandfathers calling a child that is messing things around and destroying stuff in the house "Tatar" (What you call the Mongols, they call them by this more often here). Same goes for basically anything chaotic and harmful, for example at certain times of the year a type of pests attacked the gardens and they called them likewise. So, yeah, the Mongols aren't completely forgotten here. But, I'm quite sure if someone Egyptian knows about the crusades they know about the Mongols, and vise-versa. They are events that attract them same type of history-loving people.
"They saw Europe as a cold, savage place covered in mist."
Accurate.
@mangrizli I thought burj Khalifa was the largest building in the world
Either that or the patronus towers in Malaysia
Or maybe the taj mahal in india
If Europe was so underdeveloped, how did they build the largest buildings in the world?
@Hemal kukreja 😅😅😅😊😊
@Rafa zeppeliaccurate description of the UK as a whole and most of Western Europe.
For history enthusiasts, recommend the book called "The Crusades through Arab Eyes" from Amin Maalouf. The book is really good at explaining the people's situation and political state in muslim nations.
@Starved Horror doesn't the bible state that the punishment for adultery shall be death?
@Sam Frank now that is a ridiculous statement. Amin Maalouf work was peer-reviewed and put him on the map as a historian.
@Time Read yes perhaps
@متجول البادية what is truth for you is falsehood for me.
@Woffy-Do True true
The crusades are rarely talked about from the Muslim perspective, so I found this video very interesting, thank you for bringing it and I hope you take more videos of this type
Hence the importance of translation.
For instance, as an Arab I always wondered about the views of the west on muslim conquests, since all what we read comes from the muslim point of view.
The fact that this channel covers different perspectives makes it so versatile and is the best on KZclip imo
@j p i agree with you, if any channel, such as Kurzgesagt -- that produce very trusted and high quality content -- starting faking their videos, then most people would just simply believe it
@Florian Pollard this is youtube entertainment. nobody should blindly trust any of these videos as credible sources of historical information. i'm sure they're accurate a lot of the time but that isn't the point.
This prespective only needs one good movie or series to be known, and I believe it well hit cuz it cracks all previous patterns of thought that developed in many areas over time to this point.
I think it is something historians have to do to be credible. More then anyone else historians need to be as objective as possible and cover all angles. So indeed a pretty profesional video.
Wonderful video! We in the West hear virtually nothing from the Muslim side and rarely consider how the Crusades were viewed from their side. Great stuff!
@Ben Anthony this is about crusades,, not sikhs and hindus in the holy land
This is why accurate and impartial history education is so vital. Knowledge lives in the brain, while legends live in the heart, with hatred looming in it's cellar. Thank you Kings and Generals for the service you do to humankind!
"Knowledge lives in the brain, while legends live in the heart." Beautifully put, thanks for that.
While the scientific approach to historical events is vital, legend and mythology is very important too. Myths get a bad connotation these days, buts they are the force which gives a society cohesion and willpower to fight through difficult times. What would be of the Reconquista without the myths of Pelagio and El Cid? Learning the science of history is not abou debunking myths more than it’s to understand why they exist.
This goes to show that the framing of when a conflict begins and ends can effect the way we think about an event.
@The Renegade Piano Technician This one is nothing like that lol. The territory the crusaders were taking back was culturally western for hundreds of years before Islam even existed, there's no debate about it, they were there way before the Muslims were.
@Joanna George transitive verb. 1 : to cause to come into being. 2a : to bring about often by surmounting obstacles : accomplish effect a settlement of a dispute. b : to put into operation the duty of the legislature to effect the will of the citizens.
@Rex Galilae The word wasn't misspelled. It was misapplied. At least get your complaint right. LOL
@Rex Galilae That's right. Let's brag about neglecting literacy.
@Joanna George
Well here's your spelling bee participation prize
"Major cities of the Islamic world like Baghdad hosted hundreds of thousands of inhabitants while Paris and London hosted twenty thousand each".. I know it's a bit away from the original topic but as a person who's born in Iraq It breaks my heart to see what this great nation has become nowadays .. Hopefully we will build our homeland one day .. pardon my poor English btw ( My second language😅)
Edit : I can keep taking about my point of view forever and people will still misunderstand me🤦🏻♂️
Edit2 : please read my reply regarding (US/IRAN) carefully then I will answer your questions.
Edit 3 :- I'm not replying to anyone one anymore💀
Yeah it's unfortunate the west ruined your country, insha'allah it rebuilds again, such a blessed nation
How did I escape Iraq……………..
Iran
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@Zain Khalil But most Arabs collaborated with the Ottomans. WWI makes this obvious.
@oremfrien I feel that Arabs keep themselves down. It's sad to see Egypt and Iraq in their current state.
@MJ you were never going to win in a internet full of Eurocentrics
It seems like the Arab view about the Franks isn’t really much different from the ancient Romans and Greeks, who thought the cold climate of Gaul and Germany is what made them uncivilised, but also what made them great warriors at the same time.
@Aoki Aoki You absolutely have no idea how sophisticated Germanic warfare actually was. It were the Germanics that defeated Atilla. The Romans loved using Germanic men as soldiers in the Roman armies, because of their fighting prowess. By the way, the Byzantines hired Norsemen as Varangians, whom were the most elite fighting force of their time. Stop twisting history to your own feelings. You must be insecure about yourself and feel the need to talk down on other people their heritage.
@Aoki Aoki tsimikas ( scouse Greek)
@Joella Z "The Gauls great warrior" LMAO. The Romans and Greeks were the best fighters of their time while the Gauls were weak asf and easy to defeat in warfare and poorly disciplined. Even the military elite of Carthage were stronger than a Gallic warrior. 🤣🤣🤣
Also in the 4th century AD they were Romans no longer Celts, so you said bullshit.
@Joella Z
Have you read Ibn Khaldun's book? Nice
What do you think about his theory about generations?
Tough times make strong men. Strong men create good times
Good times make weak men. Weak men create hard times
And the theory is that the first generation builds, the second enjoys, and the third destroys
In your opinion, to which generation does the current generation of Europe and America belong?
Sultan Saladin - the life and legend by Jonathan Phillips.
It is a well balanced account of the pre third crusade the third crusade and the lasting legacy of Saladin
Fun fact kurds are descendens of the sumerians,so Salad Adin is descendent of the people that build the very first civilisation.
NO COMENTS
@Ce bon vieux Jack ,He coqured Egipt, Arabia and the holy land from mesopotamia.
NO COMENTS
@يوسف ميري Saladin was Kurdish, ask any modern historian
@The Awesome Man He was actually arab looks where his ancestors descended from then you wouldn't see him as Kurdish and as far as I know he never claimed to be Kurdish his ancestors were the The Sabaeans,Sabeans or The AzdI think he just wanted to be a good Muslim and correct me if I'm wrong
@Aditya Warman I'm just refering him to what historians have been calling him for centuries.
One of my favorite stories from Ibn Munqidh is where he went into the mosque of al-Aqsa, which had been occupied by the Templars at the time. Despite their modern association with being zealous and intolerant of non-Christians, they provided a him space to pray, though this was interrupted by a Frankish man who didn't understand why Ibn Munqidh wasn't praying to the east, and so the Templar had to eject the man. However, he managed to escape and tried to turn Ibn Muqidh again, after which the Templar explained that the man had only recently arrived, and didn't understand why Muslims would pray towards the qiblah.
Though still cursing the Franks "(the scourge of Allah upon them!)" in his texts, he still denotes that: "Among the Franks, we notice those who have come to dwell in our midst and who have become accustomed to the society of [Muslims]. They are greatly superior to those who have more recently joined them in the country which they occupy. They form, in fact, an exception which must not be made into a rule," which goes to show a very unique culture between the poulain that settled within the Levant to the Latins who took their booty and returned to Europe.
علي ياسر
They did.
They were dispersed amongst many countries, Switzerland, Malta, Portugal, Spain and indeed Germany too. In fact some went to Scotland and England.
They gained prominence in Malta and Switzerland just because they are small countries, but they were influential in other countries too.
علي ياسر
One of the countries.
He says the templars were his friends.
Interasting very interasting
Great video! I never thought about this type of question.
If you're doing more on medieval warfare, would you consider one on how the knightly orders worked? The Templars, Hospitaliers, Teutonics etc. I've tried researching it myself but it's still confusing.
@David Fisk Your welcome
@The Awesome Man I did not know that, thank you.
They already made videos on those Crusader Orders
Love hearing different perspectives! Thank you for exploring this topic. I served in Afghanistan and while I was there it was a privilege in hearing the Afghani perspective through our interpreters when we dealt with the Afghan contractors we worked with. Working with those guys it made me realize that in the long run we are all just a bunch of dumb humans spinning around a ball of nuclear hellfire. By hearing the different perspectives it made me more compassionate and made me realize that there are way more good people in this world than evil. It is unfortunate that we as humans have to find a reason to kill each other over ultimately trivial things when most of us just want to live our lives and not be bothered by shitty people/governments.
Its ok brother...you did what was expected of you as a soldier...its always been like this since the beginning of time..old powerful men arguing and yound men dying for reasons most dont really know. 😥 I hope at least you found some peace and solace while you're up there in the mountains..salam brother. 🙏🏾
Look, let's be honest: this is a brilliant video. Just awesome. It will be featuring in my classroom teaching as well. Keep up the great work!
History is the best subject I have at school, God bless history teachers.
@Aaron Marks Great to connect work another passionate history teacher too. Do you follow the History Skills channel as well?
So glad to see a fellow history teacher! Best wishes, historical knowledge and perspective is sorely needed in every country's schools today!
At the end of the video you mention that the crusades don't have much impact on modern culture, I believe the levantine crusades really don't, but the reconquista basically formed the Iberian culture and has a great impact on Latin American culture.
Looking for a video about that in the future.
King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella with Torqmata (sp?) Had a great effect while kicking people out of family homes and family lands.
@Blind the Rapper lol or killed u forgot to mention how savage and unmerciful they were to muslims and jews they tortured and killed or expelled anyone that didn’t want Christianity
Negative effect.
For anyone looking for a book that uses excerpts from many different Islamic scholars to sum up the Islamic perspective of the crusades, I would suggest *Arab Historians of the Crusades* by Francesco Gabrieli, it is great!
You guys have outdone yourself here. I am a big fan of this period in history and enjoy reading & watching content on this period. This is the first time I encounter a piece looking at crusades from the others point of view. I like 👍🏽
i love how he also covers parts of history not taught in school
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This is why I prefer Kings and Generals to Armchair Historian. "From the other perspective" videos here are actually diverse and accurate, and videos cover a very wide range of topics from areas like India and Arabia that deserve more attention. Thank you!!
I got my grandpa into your channel and hes been loving all the Roman videos and the Middle Eastern HIstory!
Oh I had no idea just how much I needed a video on this topic.
Stellar work K&G, absolutely fantastic 👏
Excellent content. Thanks for ever providing diverse perspectives on historic facts.
The thing every Frankish children learn the most at school about the crusade episodes, is that moment when Saladin sends his own doctor to diagnose and treat Baudouin IV le Lépreux, king of Jerusalem. This event shows Saladin was a honorable enemy, even if he was a sarrasin de ses maures.
@JAAACK AISSA "Sarrasin" was the word for "muslim" during the medieval time of the outremer (oversea, crusader states).
I believe it's "saracen" in English.
"Maures" is the French spelling for "moors".
"Sarrasin de ses maures" is a joke and an insult I just invented, only a French speaker could understand.
It sounds the same as "sarrasin de ses morts", which designates him and his dead ancestors, in an insulting way.
What does sarrasin de ses maures mean and what is the origin of the name
Great, more of this. History always depends on critical assessments of perspectives.
Haven't watched yet but as a Muslim I already know and trust that K&G did an amazing job on covering this as neutrally as possible. Keep it up!
@The Alphatitan
1. It's a joke
2. Nobody mentioned Arab paganism
Timur Sayfullah The word you’re looking for is indulgence. Only Catholic Christians practiced indulgence, and that was many hundreds of years ago. Catholics have not paid their pastors for forgiveness for literally hundreds of years. This diligence you speak of is done by all Christians, that is, donating to keep their local church running. It’s a tenet of Christianity to donate, which is why Christians have given away the most amount of money of any group in history. Mind you I’m not Christian, if this came off like I was.
It's not that neutral
he avoids mentioning the numerous atrocities committed by the crusaders
Timur Sayfullah No, my Father is Algerian born (born in Constantine) but his family relocated in the 30s to Tunis, have a lot of Family in Tunisia and Algeria
@Amr El-Tayeb You to Sir. No worries. .
Phenomenal video I greatly thank you guys at the K & G channel for your very meticulous research and respect for other perspectives. I hope one day instead of fighting and bickering and all the nonsense embroiling these two great faiths , comes more understanding between their peoples. Best of wishes in the new year!
@Raquib Hasib 🤦♂️Considering it's happened for literally multi-thousands of years, with people far more faithful than today, and yet nothing has happened.🤷 Nothing will ever happen, because skydaddy doesn't exist. 🤣😂
@Jon Hall I believed in religion.
In 🌍 so called strong/ elite society did , doing and will do a lot of unjust work ( murder , robbery, rape u name it) against poor/ weak people. Do you really think this will go without payback ???
I also think that way. If this hatred continues, in future people will no longer adhered to ties of religion. Which is not good.
The manga and anime Altair: A Record of Battles (Shoukoku no Altair) really took the Muslim perspective almost precisely as laid out in the plot and story, and also how it is explained in this video. It is however still a fiction; many events and historical figures portrayed are greatly exaggerated or changed to fit the narrative of the story.
@_Paws_ I’m gonna check this out. Thanks for letting me know. I needed a nee anime to watch. I like Arslan Senki as well. A good one for how corruption plays out.
Eva Goodwin I know, that's what I said.
There's always two sides to history, and I love seeing both of them.
Especially where they disagree, usually points out interesting events.
Seriously so jealous at how much quality content Kings and Generals puts out!
Stop acting like the biggest fan ever just to get hearts
@Sweller Ferret2 Nobody blames terror attacks on the crusades only the stupid people do that. It was the dismantlement of the Ottoman Empire in the early 20th Century into states which did not align to religious or ethnic people groups. If you look at the 50s 60s and early 70s the middle east generally was stable and prosperous. The subsequent unnecesary wars in Iraq caused the most problems as the US stayed in the country years after they had won. Then many weak states such as Iraq and Syria had a lot of instability during the Arab spring a western supported ideal. The disbanded Iraqi Army went to many extremist groups after 2011. And you seriously want make me believe that 9/11 was actually done by Al qaeda. If you even research enough the Taliban agreed to had over bin laden but the US did not want that. Focus on your own countrys extremists who shoot schools and riot at the capital building looting at blm protests ect. Most death in the 20th century and 21st century were caused by Christians and Athiests who were at the top
@Sweller Ferret2 its the other way round. Baisically all videos about thw crusades were from Western perspectives until relatively recently
The Crusades Through Arab Eyes by Amin Maalouf is an amazing book about the topic
I am not a patreon ,but I wish these videos were a bit longer..
cant get enough of K&G..👍
despite the difference prespective between both of them, i love the warrior heart aspect inside both of them, they fight for what they believe is right. peace be upon you all brothers and sisters.
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"Started off with protecting Constantinople..."
"Accidentally razed Constantinople to the ground!"
@Livo
Arab sources does refer to Muslims Byzantine cooperation sometimes to keep the crusaders in check.
@Jaif
“Mary has been venerated since early Christianity,[6][7] and is considered by millions to be the holiest and greatest saint because of her extraordinary virtues as seen at the Annunciation by the archangel Gabriel. She is said to have miraculously appeared to believers many times over the centuries. The Eastern and Oriental Orthodox, Catholic, Anglican, and Lutheran churches believe that Mary, as mother of Jesus, is the Theotokos (Mother of God; Θεοτόκος).” All of fucking the Christian’s sects venerate Mary, and the pope is just a religious leader, not someone of worship. Pagans are any religion who aren’t abrahamic, which exclude Judaism, Islam and Christianity. The Roman Catholic church is a Christian church. The pope is a chief pastor, essentially less venerated than any prophet, which in the Old Testament includes Abraham, Moses and many others. By your definition, all Christian’s are pagans.
@Jaif how are Catholics pagans?
@Geert Wilders
Nah..most Pakistanis don't want to get back Bangladesh. But a unity would he nice.
You really have to respect that they make these high quality videos without showing any bias towards any side and with complete objectivity. Another job well done.
@Andrey Dragomirov In 1st para, they were clearly behind their Roman past. Even Byzantines began to decline, thanks to the 4th crusade.
In 2nd para, you clearly misinterpreted half of what I had said.
In third para, if all of them had really learned from Romans, then care to explain why Franks stick with Partition system and destroyed their *last chance* to restore Rome(HRE definitely don't count as Roman Empire, same for anything Germanic after Charlemagne's death)
In 4th para, I know that serfdom existed since Late Roman Empire, but it became extremely common in the middle ages. And while the church did try to reduce slavery (I do give credit where it's due), the nobles simply tried to find loopholes and the situation of the serfs increasingly deteriorated. In fact, in some places, there was little practical difference between a serf and a slave.
In the 5th para, please don't confuse coincidence with cause effect relationship. And care to explain how Christianity helped in scientific development by persecuting Coppernicus and Galelio Galelie.
Also in 5th para, I clearly know how the things were back then. I clearly know that such things were unfortunately extremely common. So maybe it's time to finally learn from the past mistakes, to transcend beyond such divisions, and to live together peacefully, for nothing is greater than humanity itself.
@SHEATINA Cosmetics I've no issue with that. I totally agree with you that cultural bias will exist in every society. I'm simply saying there's a limit to that. for example I can't possibly read about French history without knowing they have had -in simple words- bitter enmity with England. you can't read about Greek history without passing by Alexander the great. similarly, you can't read about Arab history without coming across Arab poetry. neglecting these sort of things, changing them, or -even worse- falsifying them is no doubt a bias.
@Amr El-Tayeb Mate we in Europe usually don't read these books from Arab perspective.
They are not even available in book shelfs etc.
Everything is written by europeans for europeans.
Their statement stays true.
@madhu rawat then you probably didn't watch the video. I'm a subscriber since the early days of this channel and I've watched all their videos on Islamic and non-Islamic hisory. That's why I know they are biased.
@Amr El-Tayeb This channel had praised Khalid's skill as a military commander and had also made a video about islamic golden age. At the same time, they had also called out some of the atrocities committed by them and also the infighting within the ummah.
I am not sure about the accuracy of the content, but they are seemingly *not* biased.
Ibnu al Athir my favorite historian to read about when i was in school. He wrote so many stuff about history of not just in the middle east but also in Asia and Europe.
I think this is the best historic video I've ever seen ❤️ from any West channel.
Very neutral, truthfull perspective ❤️
Specially the last part when you said about present day situation.
well good to know you're straight up admitting to a thousand year old grudge lol. might explain why they live in the stone age.
The book of Oussama Ibn Mounqidh is a very good book to read. It's short but you can see the perspective of a muslim on the crusade who are curious, where the ennemy is more the islamic court scheme that the new warrior of the west etc... a book that you need to read to understand the crusade !
Never stop posting, i find every video very valuable and cannot think of a better way to spend my spare time ❤️👌💯
This reminds me of that book by Amin Maalouf "The crusades through arab eyes".
@fallen nature “through”
“eyes”
We have a copy at home of this book, truly a very interesting read
great book indeed
Great book
I can't get over the bird noises in the beginning and end! Enthralling video, as always ❤️
Understanding the modern world requires an understanding of history, especially from each others perspectives. The Muslim world as the video points out largely saw the western colonial expansion as a continuation of the crusades.
As part of their independence struggles many Muslim nations adopted symbols dating back to the crusader period like Egypt which adopted the eagle of Saladin on its flag. European sailors and pirates operating in the Indian Ocean were also referred to as Firangis (Franks).
Correction on Kitab al-Jihad: the literal translation of the book’s title is incorrect and doesn't even mean 'holy war' which is literally translated to Arabic as Al-harb Al-muqadas. The term jihad comes from the tri-root word juhd which literally means effort. So 'jihad' actually means to struggle or exert one's utmost effort. Otherwise, this simple video was a nice watch that doesn't include all the details mentioned in many history books and accounts by Muslim scholars and historians.
Yeah, jihad means struggle. The lesser Jihad is a fair and justified non-agression war to please and gain favour of Allah, and the greater jihad is the war against your nefs (evil desires, temptations and inclinations).
i thought the same. translating jihad in simply holy war it's so inaccurate
Nuraddin Zengi and Baybars had the best win ratio against Crusaders, Saladin although reputed more, failed to produce a decent record losing several battles such as Montgisard, Acre, Arsuf, Jaffa, Belvoir,...
@Apalaharti Sebuahnama
What about khaild bin al waleed? 😂 he single handedly throw the entire Turkish win ratio into the trash.
Common Arab W 😂
Turkish based, only glorifies his Turkish follow, dude we arabs have the most popular and win ratio generals and warriors in the islamic history and we didn’t do what you did, if you wanna go down this road you stand no chance.😂
Ahh Nureddin and İmadeddin Zengi... Great Turkish Atabeys the history has ever witnessed.
I think Saladin is more reputable because he's seen as more noble in his intent, including helping Richard the lionheart get back on his horse before they kept fighting.
He's somewhat liked in the European world too, because that act is seen as chivalrous.
Ulan birader, nicki görünce altima isedim.
15:12 G.W. Bush also referred to the invasion of Iraq in 2003 as a crusade, which naturally revives this paradigm
@Silence me Violate me
Oh so crusaders can't have greedy muslims who look after their own interests in their cru§ading team?
Some people want power at the expense of lives. And for saudi kings who butcher their people every friday , commit human right abuses and war crimes in Yemen; they are the ideal sort of friends, Aren't they?
For the human right and democracy champion, befriending such kings is not what every body thought can or should happen? Especially for the US's self righteous approach.
Waging wars for ones greed is not different from a crusade, is it?
History is repeating itself while some people here really do believe that the victim is to blame for being killed, harmed or looted.
The world is not as civilized as you wish it to be. Wars are being waged till to this day while some people have the sheer audacity to claim its all right and justified, given ones's "friendship status". Both friends are to be blamed here.
@Golim Apibol bush is best friends with the Saudi riyal family. Try the bigotry game again. You lost this round.
@Apple Aya
Tell that to Iraqis, Libyans, Syrians, Somalians and Afghans who are currently living the crusades, not just the past, my pagan friend.
It seems to me that most of the Muslim scholars have the same perspective as Christian scholars, that it was a battle between religions, rather than a battle between political entities that incorporated religion to justify their actions and war.
@Fellas Films Inc
None of the major religions are as homogeneous as many make them out to be. Lots of perspectives (many conflicting) within a religion.
You'll find muslim scholars with the second opinion as well. It all depends on the perspective
It was about Jèŕusalem after all.
@savioblanc
Au contraire, many leaders and groups gained tremendous wealth. Of course many later lost lost it. Some sooner and some later.
For soem leader, especially Euopean leaders, it gave them credibility and prestige that that may not have parleyed into wealth, but it gave them influence and power. Of course, if you died, you kind of lost everything. lol
@anon-iraq
There is rarely one reason. I personally see religion as an incentivising factor, rather than a root factor.
Intro statement nails it. I encourage further exploration of this perspective in all applicable topics.
Any idea for K&G to come into South and East Asia ? :) It could take this channel to new unconquered highly potential territories lol.
It would be great if you can study and analyse about medieval Cholas of Tamil country. They are one of the fascinating Empires of not only Indian history but even in the whole of Asia.
I'd like to learn about that from this channel as well
I don't like India, but I like the history and geography, so that'd be pretty cool
"This enabled both sides to have a stereotypical view of each other" --- excellent wording.
I'm fascinated by history. Tell us more about Reconquista!
I really I really love those counts of when they talk about the Europeans from the other cultures and how they saw us back then. Actually it's still relevant today
Yay another Kings & Generals video. You guys have been on a roll lately.
I respect the channel a lot for this. I guess we need more people putting reality out there.
My first exposure to the Crusades was the Saladin campaign in AOE2, not perfectly accurate but it certainly opened my mind
crusades never ending crusades make it stop. the pope loves his crusades AOE games
one must appreciate the open minded idividuals whatever background they could be from, specially when judging historical events, in this video we see that clearly, thanks
Lmao the way barbarossa just dissapeared is so funny
Barbarossa was 60 years old and likely suffered a heart attack
The thing most people so not know is that he was a fairly impactful monarch before the crusades, instrumental for shaping the beginnings of a lot of history that would even impact our modern world.
I find it hilarious that it's mentioned in just about every crusade video. My favorite is from History Matter where it's just his name and then a quick clip of him sinking headfirst into the river.
@The D storm Salahudeen was quite relieved as the german host posed quite a dilemma. Even with the ressources of egypt and syria fighting against three european kingdoms namely France, England and on top of that germany would have been a serious stretch.
He drowned in a river.
Gotta love the general... "How dare they attack Spain and Sicily and take it" ... "Back from us after we took it a bit earlier" kind of sentiment.
Great stuff - a needed perspective - more if you can would be appreciated
Excellent work .. fair assessment and objective
All of historical events would be better to tell this way. Both perspectives are very important to us.
Good video.
Whoever is interested in this subject should read The Crusades Through Arab Eyes by Amin Maalouf.
In the last statement it should be made clear that the unimportance of the crusades to modernity is only in discourse and in (most) westerners minds, but not a historical fact. I feel that it did a great impact on Europe with consequences leading to nowadays, including the construction of the image of the islamic world in the West and an "opening" to a bigger world
Thank you for your effort. Please add translation in Arabic, especially for videos that talk about Arabs or Islam
Great Video! But I'm a bit surprised you didn't ascribe the disastrous outcome of the Battle of Hattin as the iconic end of the second crusade for the Christians.
@Vycktur von-Ozeghe ah no it wasn't.
The Battle of Hattin was fought in 1187..definitely, the second Crusade
@Chad Supporter 🔱 Third
I am a great fan of yours.I love your channel for your unbiased approach.♥️♥️
@Adolf Ryan calm down adolf
Love this alternate perspective!
There's a book called "The Crusades Through Arab Eyes" by renowned writer Amin Maalouf (الحروب الصليبية كما رآها العرب) if anyone's interested
I hope we get more video's about the Amazigh tribes, there is so much history left there.
I just hope they do history about battle of three kings/oued Leben/battle of zelaqa which was important in shifting world's history
History can tell us a lot. I really admire this channel. For the crusades, as Muslims we see them to be religious driven, and they are still going on until now despite some political factors. For the Mongolian invasion, they have done a lot of destruction as well at that time.
Great video, but I have to point out one thing. Never underestimate the power of the ideas created around crusades. In Middle East, things grew organically, so it was very convenient to relate Crusades with colonization efforts. We would probably have the same thing should the Ottoman empire colonized the whole Europe. It is, however, also wrong to say that only some politicians in Middle East use Crusades as a political argument. Remember George W. Bush and his reference to Crusades? It was such a powerful reference and such a strong motivation to rally people around. So, the myths of Crusades are alive and healthy (and dangerous) on all sides. It is great that you put so much effort in clarifying these events, so we have less myths and more facts. That really helps. Great job!
@Billy Jesus
Turks were brought as mercenaries so.
The Protestant Crusader is truly a beast I cannot understand.
@Billy Jesus So maybe I shall say Occidente except the Saxons I guess
@Juanchi Cruz ah yes, i live in england ive never seen the crusades taught as evil in schools or on tv here?
@Billy Jesus I said Occident
Always good content, keep it coming please!!
This makes me wanna see other major conflicts from the stereotypical enemies POV
Arabic and Turkish subtitles are mandatory for this video!
I like this way of understanding other people intentions and motivations. Just like in AoT Reiner looks like a terrible traitor but when you know why is he like that it makes complete sense and not some dudes who are evil cause of of their greed for money and power most of the time.
aot fans trying not to relate anything to aot challenge(impossible)
*Ibn khaldun said : difficult times create strong men , strong men create good life , good life creates weak men 🔁🔄
in my country(Indonesia), while studying the history of Islamic civilization. The reason for the crusade was because of the defeat of emperor Romanus in the manzikert war. Emperor Romanus was betrayed by aristocrats, nobles, and the church, when he went to the battlefield in his capital already appointed by the new emperor. So that his army which initially numbered 200 thousand so divided only 50 thousand left and eventually lost the war manzikert.
The Muslim army that won the war captured the byzantium emperor and did not kill him but paraded him to the gates of Constantinople with the flag of tawhid in his procession. This incident is considered the cause of the crusade.
Tragically, Emperor Romanus faced a coup by John Doucas, his political rival. Emperor Romanus' wife was forced into the monastery, while she was imprisoned in Sicily. After pledging not to reclaim his throne from Emperor Michael VII Doucas, Romanus was blinded on June 29, 1072, and died shortly afterwards from a severe infection from the threading of his eyes. In 1084, the Seljuk Sultanate conquered Antioch (now Antakya, Turkey) and the City of Nicaea in 1092.
That's how you know kings and generals truly loves history because they seek to learn and show it without bias.
Jihad does not mean (holly war), it means striving or struggling
Amazing video. Would you make a video about why today’s Middle East is in decline/less developed than Europe? Why they swapped places as Europe much more developed compared to Middle East?
Colonisation and stagnation. Although the stagnation happened first
Colonization
@Timothy Matthews Which tends to be added through development which many middle eastern countries are able to do aside from the war torn ones.
Now you did mention that, they would be undeveloped even if they did not have those components which is not exactly true. Many countries have not yet reach the developed status mostly due to a few factors such as economic diversity despite their quality of life being equal or better to developed nations (this includes intelligence level among population, wealth, access to healthcare etc).
The developed status may also be somewhat political, tho this is more rarer as it depends on what development system you are using. For example, both China and Russia are seen as superpowers with China poised to take the economic super powers status from the us within 15 years as it has already taken 8 of the 4 Hyperpower criteria from the US yet are not considered developed nations with Russia its more of their economy while for China, it more political rather than economical.
Countries like the US for example have been usually defined as “fourth world” as a term to describe a country which has been awarded the developed nation status yet has a large part of the nation as development and needs towards its citizen around undeveloped nations in relation to the more around the lines of the mid tier to low tier undeveloped nations not those who are in the upper tier and qualify or will soon reach the developed status.
For the middle eastern the largest factor holding several countries from having its developed status is the lack economic diversity.
Moving on, some modern daily systems or infrastructure are not European eg: biometric passport. Furthermore, if you read up on the gunpowder empires and also read up on the golden ages you would have known what went through. You would know they had sewage systems during their own era, roads, light lamps etc.
You might be comparing it to the modern day development etc which is far from being uniquely European as we are in a new Industrial Age in which a large contribution comes from outside the western world.
If you want to talk about how historical impact led to this new age being formed than you would need to credit the Islamic golden age for the European renaissance.
Lastly, to add why I asked you to read about the gunpowder empires was due to them in particular the Mughal we’re going through proto-industrial revolution which may have influenced Great Britain to move towards the industrial revolution.
The French benefited from their allies the Tipu Sultanate that was also going through an proto industrial revolution. While outside of the Indian subcontinent song China historically were going through a stage of proto-industrial revolution.
@Made A Channel Just Cause I Can A country can have the best education in the world, the best rulers in the world, and the most peace in the world, but without automobiles, trains, factories, paved roads, sewage treatment, and the other things that come with development, it is still not developed. The Middle East would be undeveloped even if it never had the things you mention.
@Timothy Matthews yeah this is true comment. And dont forger Rönesans and scince factor. Ottomans could not pass into the age of science. More precisely, they did not accept science as something important. and science turned into technology was the end of the empire
Another great one from Kings and Generals, Thank u kindly Sir!
Absolutely beautiful video!
That was different and I believe pretty fair both sides were mentioned on having committed atrocities it made me want to look up some of their historians writings
Yes I can definitely say that until I actually went over the crusades in college, up till then I was only familiar with Richard the Lionheart and the 3rd crusade and that was probably because of Robinhood so ya I just thought the crusaders we're the "good guys", but then once you go back to the start of the crusades and then fast forward to the I think it's the 4th or 5th crusade (depends on if you count the child or pesent ones) were the crusaders and Dandalo sack and slaughter only other Catholic holdings toping it off with the taking of Constantinople, they never even make it to Egypt. It's like trying to go fight Russia but instead of cold and snow you got heat and sand no one can take it or hold it just like Russia
As a Muslim myself, this is really interesting.. I'm usually not really into medieval history, but this is really interesting for me to know
hope you do more of these other culture's perspectives, like the channel Voices of the Past
In Romanian school history lessons we are taught about the battles against the Ottomans as "late crusades"
7:59: "Kitab al Dshihad" dosn't mean "The Book of Holy War" but "The Book of strive/struggle". Dshihad doesn't mean anything near "war" or "holy", but struggle itself. As such someone can do dshihad to get better grades at school etc. In this context it's about the struggle to maintain and keep the Islamic Realm as the Christian offensives were a threatening it. In WW1 the Ottoman Empire announced the "Dshihad-i Ekber" which can be translated as "The Great Struggle" to defend the Empire and as such to defend the Islamic Realm. You can interpret that this struggle is about war and a holy mission to guard the future and independence of the Islamic religion and Caliphate, but not in the same "holy war" manner as the Crusades. So basically it's wrong to translate "Dshihad" as "Holy War".
@possumGFX why does you and your people so harsh and rude?
By the way, European version aka modern version of 'one thousand one night' are written by the france, so your point?
@Horvard Pasha Why isnt it 100%? If Allah is the only one true god and ol' Mo the childlover his prophet why are there even any other gods and religions? Why are they even older and why are there religions and sects evolving after Mo flew his unicorn to heaven? If Allah decided to reveal himself to the people then why did he allow other concepts of gods, paganism, polytheism even to spread among his creation? And why did he chose Mo who was a rather insignifcant warlord in a world full of warlords in the middle of nowhere as his prophet? Why did Allah miss out on the american continent, east asia, europe, afrika, australia? Shouldnt a god who cares to spread his existence to give believers a chance to go to haven like...disribute the knowledge evenly among all humans on earth? And what about those who died long before Mo came around, they kind of got the stick, dont they..i mean..never getting even a chance to learn about that hot new god in the first place. For someone who knows all Allah for sure seems to be really bad at spreading his word around. And how come children never come up with Allah as their god but always with the god of their parents and their pals. Why isnt that no child born in Tokyo saying."you know what...i feel like Allah it is." ? Because religion is a social concept that provides answers that are conviniently tied to a belief system to the one question that can not be answered...what happens when we die. And every single religion answers this question the same way..."here ..read this book i wrote...by the way I know how it is really meant and if you worry about your eternal wellbeing you better cut off the foreskin of your sons, kill or convert all that dont believe in my book and make sure i am always happy as the guy in the sky has chosen me and is talking only to me...conviniently. Youll see after you die."
Do you remember life before you were born? Thats how your life will be after you died. End of story.
I am not ignorant, my dude. I just say it like it is. I dont have to know when "One Thousand and One Nights" was written and by whom to know its a fairy tale. Even if that offends you. I am not polite to people who want to push their religious nonesense on me.
I religiously listen and research your videos and comments...valuable and useful about History reprating itself...Thank yoo
Love it. I get dopamine high when I see a new KG documentary.
That map on 2:02 really made my day. The alMoravids was such a large empire. Proud of my Amazigh ancestors 🇲🇦❤️😎
That flag didn't even exist
thank you for making this wonderful video. perspective helps
Un excelente video, como siempre
A video about Templar Knights, Assasins and Seljuks is a good idea. Maybe with Ubisoft sponsorship 😁
They already have videos about the Assassins and Seljuks.
Ubisoft would find a way to ruin the video trust me
Bravo!!! Well done!
on a semi-related note, you are now aware that the Camelot Singularity in FGO involves trying to take Jerusalem BACK from the Crusaders
just as a little clarification. "Kitab-al Jihad" would translate to "Book of struggle" or "Book of striving" and not "Book of holy war". "war" is "harb" in arabic in this connotation.