NHTSA and EPA regulations are killing the ability for companies to provide reliable, durable 4x4's with equal or higher power than previous models... Even my 2017 tacoma was absurd, the first Toyota 4x4 I've ever owned where my stud welder for dent pulling would just melt through even on LOW with small pins! 🤦♂️ Every year mileage requirements go up, mandatory safety equipment and testing goes up... Really we've been past the point of no return of having no "real" 4x4's since roughly 2010... If only we had exemptions for REAL Toyota 4x4s like Australia and South Africa... Atleast Ford tried with the Raptor, and Dodge with the power wagon until the EPA necessitated the gas powered ecoboost and terrible transmission... Ford didn't have the best history of reliability before being hampered by having to pair up that combo to maintain the same power levels at a higher EPA spec'd MPG rating... And Dodge died as soon as FIAT took over... RIP Bronco owner's wallets is all I can say 😐 Thanks EPA 👍 now go give some more tax credits to Amazon and Walmart who import everything on cargo ships burning millions of gallons of unrestricted crude oil and low grade diesel so we can have landfills full of un-repairable, single use import products... Great "Green" initiative EPA 👏
I feel the same, so I'm sticking with my 1st gen 4x4. I love it's reliability, simplicity and size. It has it's shortcomings but the vaunted Toyota reliability stand out in the 1st. gen 167K and 1 oxygen sensor replaced.
@MWAclanGaming the first gen 3.5 definitely had some issues that have been addressed. We have had zero issues so far and friends I know with more mileage have been good as well.
You should probably trade it in for a 2015-2021 Tundra TRD Pro. Robust motor & non of the electronic crap. It would take more work to run 35s but it would be more durable for sure
One of the reason those beeps is so infuriating to me is that I know that as soon as you overuse a super annoying beep like that, eventually you learn to ignore them thereby rendering them not only useless, but dangerous. It's a "cry wolf" situation where when you really need the beep you'll have already ignored it.
Exactly this has been proven as well people well not listen when it’s actually needed, however the auto manufacturers must do this in order to stay compliant with the government regulations! 😳
Hey max, I hope you see this comment. So I have quite a bit of experience with these 22 tundras my friend jus got 2, a limited TRD Off-Road and he traded in his 2019 1794 for a 2022 TRD Pro, I have been test driving the limited for almost a month now. And to address some of your concerns, the truck does beep at you a lot but for most of these things you can simply just turn them off, like all the safer gadgets that freak out when you’re off-road, for example, lane centering assist etc, they all can be turned and they won’t bother you. Secondly the TRD Off-Road while it has the name off-road in it, it’s more of an appearance package as I have discovered, it doesn’t really make the truck any more off-road capable than a bone stock, I mean it adds the more off-road tires and crawl control but that’s about it, to really get the best out of a TRD-off-road it has to be lifted with better tires as my friend and I found out while taking it off-road bone stock, it scraped and banged on a lot of things, but once the lift kit went on it, it changed into a different truck, also the front bumper on these 22’s are pretty low to the ground for efficiency sake so if you don’t wanna scrape it, it’s most likely would have to be modified. For the android auto disconnecting, I have figured out that it mostly happenes when you wirelessly connect to it, so most of the time using the cable solves that issue, I’ve also had the same problem in a lot of BMW’s where android auto or apple car play just disconnected on me while I was using it, and switching to the wired connection helps, and the problem can be fixed with an OTA update. Regarding the check engine light, same thing happened to my friends Limited Off-Road, it came on while we were driving, tried to restart the truck that didn’t change anything, we took it into the dealership and they ran a scan on it, nothing came up, it happened to just be a glitch for us. So i would say you should try to run a diagnostic check to see what the problem may possibly be. I feel this is the case that happens with any first year vehicle, same thing happens when the previous Gen tundra came out, it had its own fair share of issues but they were all worked out in a year or 2, same thing goes for any brand really, Ford has had a bunch recalls on the new F-150, it’s what happens when you get an all new vehicle, essentially the customers are the beta testers which sucks cos customers who get the bad example have a soured experience of the brand. In the case of the tundra, I have noticed that the trucks who were made the earliest seem to have the most amount problems, while the latter made trucks, have less problems. I have seen people who have had nothing to say but good things about the tundra on KZclip and I’ve seen people who have had problems. I’m really sorry your truck hasn’t been making you happy, hopefully things would turn around. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with the tundra I test drove for quite some time and I’m looking into getting one for myself l, preferably a TRD Pro, Capstone or 1794. I think the new tundra is still a great truck, it’s pretty darn fast for what it is, the interior is miles and miles better than the previous Gen, it rows more, which is very important to me and it’s a lot more comfortable than the last generation. I’ve had a lot of seat time in the last Gen and I can confirm that. I also think it looks better but that’s a controversial opinion 😂. People like to hate on the new thing especially on the internet which made me start to doubt the new trucks but once I test drove one, I fell in love.
My guy, have you ever heard less is more? I gave up trying to read the book you put on here. If I buy a truck that says off road then it should be off road ready. I shouldn’t have to throw over a grand to lift it. And fuck all the sensors. Oh just flip a switch. Fuck that don’t add them. Give me a 01 lifted XJ. Destroys this truck. Shit a base XJ would destroy this truck
With this being the first year of the updated model hopefully they update and fix a lot off the issues you addressed in the next few years. I’m sure you’re not the only one with the same problems. Also I’m glad I have a manual Tacoma and a manual parking brake. Really the only “auto” feature it has is the cruise control and man when it hits the brakes it freaking slams on them. Other than that I’m glad it has less “safety” features than other modern trucks
@Allan Yang The tundra isn’t the only one that suffers this problem. Most if not all models have issues/bugs to work out in the first couple of model years even with testing. The hard part about testing is real world scenarios where people drive differently and discover issues that were not found during testing pre production. It’s unfortunate but that’s just the way it usually happens
It’s true it’s the first year of release. But engineers been working and testing for at least a year. The prototypes should of seen these problems before allowing it to be in production.
I agree the safety and quality issues suck but I recently took my dad's limited trd off road for a roadtrip and it was a great experience for me. I love the new drive-train way more than the old due to how smooth and quick it is. The adaptive cruiser control and lane keep assist basically made it to where I wasn't even driving most of the trip, just holding the steering wheel. After a 9 hour drive, I wasn't even tired or anything.
I also hated the beeping in lane assist. You can change that so it just vibrates the steering wheel. I was very happy to find that it could be changed. Mine has never experienced the random beeping like you are experiencing.
In all Toyotas it’s annoying, I turned it off cause on the merge lanes for freeways, it would try to turn me back into the lane instead of merging. If you have the turning lights in, no problem but when you don’t, it forces you back into your lane. I hate the seatbelt reminder cause I have a child, and when she’s not with me sometimes, the car registers weight so it starts beeping and after a minute it’ll turn off, but seems now with the newer safety sense versions, they’re going to kill you with noises 😂
@Kaleb Spicer this dude made a 16 minute video about all the things he hates about this truck and didn’t say a word about the fact it has 2 less cyls. Not saying a 6 is better but let that sink in lol
Like Scotty Kilmer said (you tube mechanic) and he loves Toyota, don't buy no brand new model vehicle in the first year he mentions this model also. They are still trying to work out any bugs that didn't show earlier .
Probably pressing a button, changing some settings, and some after market tuning solutions could improve your experience. Interested to hear what you like in the next video, and see how it balances out.
The raptor blew up on him and the tundra stops/alerts his driving style which causes him problems. I think his off road expectations of a stock vehicle are too high, but also his driving style seems to be causing him issue with newer vehicles. Get an older vehicle without safety technology, actually lift it and put on off road armor/tires, and these problems probably won’t occur. It would also be a lot cheaper than smashing trucks costing $60-90k
The way he nitpicked in this last video i doubt he'll have much nice to say about it even though it didn't leave him and his family somewhere stranded....
Great video man, I have noticed that safety and economy have taken over driver usability and sadly is what i have seen is that in order to get more driver usability you need to downgrade trim level which is a let down since some people want certain things but cant get with certain trim levels, amazing video though shows what should be addressed with toyota to make their truck better for next year
Hey Max. Thank you for the review. I recently bought a new Ranger a few months ago and I have almost the same issues. I’ve had several Fords and Toyotas and I think with Covid and all the shortages these car manufacturers are getting cheap on ALOT of things and it’s crazy frustrating especially when everything is marked up..
I’m sorry that you had to deal with the 2022. I’ve seen so many reviews prior to it coming out and I didn’t like what I was seeing so I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the 2021 TRD pro and absolutely love it. Its everything I wanted in the truck and lotta things that you discussed about the alarms and sensors I have Don’t have those issues. I would see if I could trade it out for a 21. Just saying. You should find one and drive it. Toyota should call you to test there shitz so you can show them the Max Pain we all love!
Awesome video! Always enjoy seeing peoples perspectives or takes on things. I virtually have the same exact truck. I have the SR5 that is upgraded to the max | basically a limited trim level. I do NOT have any of the beeping you are getting while you drive. To help you out, maybe try turning off the lane assist? That is the first thing I did. The ONLY time my truck beeps is when I am in reverse. Secondly I thought the automatic air-dam [under the bumper] was only on the Sport packages | not on the Off Road Packages [Mine does NOT have one]? Not saying you are incorrect- maybe its a limited trim level thing? I know you are pretty well versed in truck knowledge- this is more of a question to anyone that knows for certain. Regardless- awesome video | great content! I hope the truck works out for you in the end!
I have the exact same truck. Simply turn off the features you don’t want on and the noise goes away. His noises are primarily caused by motion detection. And, while driving forward or backward, with the door open, I’m glad the brake engages.
Best most honest review I’ve watched. I too have noticed how small the windows and roof line looks. I was on the fence about this truck, now I know NOT to buy this rig. Thanks.
I was super excited to test drive one of these and was very disappointed. Just so you know i hated my eco boost truck and it made me think of it with its rubber band power delivery. They are quick but almost not connected to our foot inputs. I ended up going with the TRX and absolutely love it. It’s old school feeling in how it drives with modern features and tech. I will say i also hate the automatic parking brake when the door is open. I’m thinking of backing up to a trailer.
Great video. I learned a lot. Have been considering trading my 2019 TRD Pro for a 2022 TRD premium. This video is more evidence as to why I should not trade.
Makes me appreciate my 2014 Toyota all the more.Kills that grass is always greener obsession with new models though.The lack of windshield view would have not even got me to the test drive phase
I'm glad you commented on this. Overall the Tundra 2022 was a big disappointment for those of us who are consumers of this wonderful model of car and expected much more. I have a 2010 with over 300,000 and it has been an excellent experience, the best car I have ever had, its main use is to be my car for the day but mostly for overland.
I have a tundra limited 2022 and absolutely love it from top to bottom, if you have problems with android maybe you need to change to an iPhone, I haven’t had any issues with car play, and all the safety features can be adjusted or modified on the main screen settings, what I love the most are all the parking assistant cameras make it so easy to park, the parking sensor can also be turned off when you are towing a trailer or something so it doesn’t affect the automatic brake system, good luck every one ✌🏽
The parking brake thing really gets me too. My wife and I just purchased a 2022 Grand Cherokee. We recently took a trip with the pop up and had to take the jeep because my truck was in the shop. I was trying to back it up to hook up the trailer with the door open. The parking brake kept setting and it took me 10 mins to figure out why. Very annoying when I was just trying to get a better view of the trailer.
Excellent review. I'd been thinking about another one of these or a Sequoia or an LX600 (I currently have a 2012 Tundra and a 2011 LX570), but between rats periodically getting into the Tundra's engine bay to chew on the soy-based wiring (which apparently is still being used in 2022) and all the annoying new tech on the 2022, I'll hold off on buying anything new from Toyota or Lexus for at least a couple of more years...or maybe just bring my 1993 Land Cruiser back out on the road regularly. I've loved Toyotas for years, but the quality, reliability, and sheer driveability seem to be going backwards nowadays, not forward.
I have a 2022 and agree with you on most everything you said. I’ve had it a month and my wife can already tell that I’m losing interest in it. I came from a 2020 GMC and honestly I’m missing it.
I’ve had my 21 tundra for 1 and a half years now. I love it as much as I did when I first bought it. I was driving a 73 f350 though. The 21 is my first new vehicle that I’ve ever bought. Hope you end up liking your 22 or get into something u love.
FYI - you can change the lane departure to vibrate. It's buried in the dash menu. Or if you hold the button for 10 seconds it turns it off. Turning it off persists when you shut it off.
Thank you so much for this real world use video! I am a farmer and so the constant beeping, seat belt, park brake, safety "features" etc are a HUGE deal breaker for me. These manufacturers need to remember that people use trucks for more than just highway driving. Let us control the damn things! It looks like I'll be sticking with Ford again for my next truck. Too bad, the TRD Pro was looking good.
@Maxx Powell That's a major bummer, but I appreciate you sharing your real experiences with us. Most videos on KZclip are just people walking around the truck in the parking lot
I agree with your comments. It is the smallest things that do annoy you. I have a 2014 and when I first hopped in the 2022 for a quick look I felt like I went backwards in quality wise of the interior. Thanks for the annoying small things ,appreciate it.
Thank you so much for a very informative video! In my opinion, only the Tundra from 2007 to 2013 was the most successful model. (this is a convenient, reliable tank for every day) After 2014, the tundra lost many of its important practical qualities. I was waiting for a new Tundra and now I am no longer a Toyota Tundra fan boy, I am looking around to see what other pickup truck I can buy
I have to disagree. My 15 is essentially as you mentioned. The "refresh" was to put a little more into the truck without a complete overhaul. They're still a tank and reliable but with a few extra amenities.
Man, you said it! Had my '22 for a couple months now and these little things drive me insane and make me wish I would have kept my 2012 model. It makes you wonder if any of these egghead penny-pinchers ever owned or used a truck before. Like, why change a working formula if for no other reason than to fatten their bottom line?
I’ve been eyeing a new Tundra to replace my high mileage 4Runner. One of my favorite things about the 4Runner is that it lacks all of the technology. Maybe letting the market settle down and picking up a 21 Tundra would be a better option.
Thanks for sharing, these are the kind of things I was afraid of with this new Gen Tundra. It’s very unfortunate that Toyota is trying to milk people for subscriptions on something as basic as navigation. The other “safety” items seem extremely annoying. Terrible vehicle experience. I’m a Toyota guy but I don’t think I can bring myself to buy a Tundra like this, unless at the very least a good tuner is available to fix these electronic issues.
your right it should be higher but the trd of road is more of just an appearance package like below a tremor or rebel if you want off road capability you should get a trd pro, about auto headlights it has them on the left stock you just need top turn it up once to where it says auto, in the settings you can turn of the sensors and make them less loud for the auto parking brake you can also change it in the settings alot of the issues you are having are just fixed through settings and through the dash screen, for the rear seatbelts chime it wont chime unless the seat belt was previously on and then you take it off and put something back there it will beep which is on almost all cars. You really are just bashing toyota about issues that you can just turn off. you also havent even tried to turn these things off.
I see this often with KZclipr reviews. A bunch of negative reviews on the Tesla MY that were literally all just a setting change to address lol. I’m not saying the truck is good or bad, I don’t have one, but making a video like this seems a little premature and irresponsible when you haven’t even looked at how to adjust it.
All these things make sense and they would all totally annoy me too! All that safety crap and features scare me which is why I love my 2017! 2017 was so basic and didn't have 90% of the problems you mention. Hopefully it gets better for your homie!
This is why I’ll keep my 2015 tundra with the 5.7 with only 45k on it and how I like the simplicity of the truck without all that high tech stuff which compromise the durability and reliability of the vehicle. This truck will be my last truck unless something catastrophic happens and I’ll buy a similar one!
Thought about taking advantage of current prices, selling my raptor for a profit and getting one of these. Held off to wait for the reviews and early impressions. So far I just don't see any world where I'd get rid of a truck that does almost everything right for one that does so many things wrong. One thing you didn't mention but that is important in snowy areas like the mountains where I live.... No 4A mode, they're still having you shift in and out of 2H and 4H. That was one of the deal breakers for me, especially early or late season when you're often going from hardpack to asphalt and back.
Thank you so much for your input concerning the new Tundra. Was on the fence about the truck, now I'm back on the porch. I'm not pulling the trigger on one for a few years at least. My 2019 Tundra TRD Pro is paid for and drives great, no complaints at all. Thanks again.
I’ve been wanting a Tundra for a couple of years. When the 2022 tundra came out, I told my wife it’s time to buy a 2021. That the New Tundras is not what I want.
Thank you. I'm a Tundra fan but this model would drive me crazy. These issues are non-starters. If Toyota loses a few years of credibility, it will take forever to recover we customers.
As much as I like the Tundra, I’m not too sure I could go with the newer models. Some of the things (like the automatic lights), i’m surprised aren’t there, especially with the Limited model. It’s the same with the 3rd Gen base Tacos too. When I got my ‘18 sport taco, I was shocked it wasn’t a feature. Annoying really - The dealer just told me to always leave the lights on and they turn off after about 30 seconds. No thanks. I ended up trading it for a ‘19 Off Road with the tech package which came with auto lights. Luckily, much of the safety sense can be disabled on it so not all the beeps are constant. Good luck with it!
Great video I have a ram 2019 limited with plenty of miles and now I'm thinking of getting the tundra TRD or the F-150 Platinum FX4 powerboats, I get to see the lack of quality in many things with the Tundra but I love the look of the truck and I was still thinking about it but with all these just makes me more secure of the choice ill make, thanks a lot!
as someone with a '18 Tundra, the dings and sensors on that one can get annoying as well. The '22 seems like overkill. The lane change beep doesnt happen if you have the blinker on
Some of the chimes can be easily turned off. The lane departure can be turned to a vibrate instead. The first beeping you showed though... Mine has never made that sound so I don't know about it. The seat belt chime does turn off after a while even though it seems like forever.
Such a shame, I'm all for a new generation of a truck but everything that was great about the previous tundra they did away with, I'm really trying to be open minded about this new tundra but the more I look in to it the more skeptical I grow but otherwise thank you for the info and review
I recently bought a 2023 Tundra and a lot of the beeping safety items can now be turned off or they have changed to a vibration. I turned off lane keep assist as I found it to be dangerous in many situations. So far, I am enjoying the truck. No problems yo speak of yet.
My God those beeps and tones, that would drive me up the wall, I’d lose it, that alone is enough to not buy it. I’ve watched a lot of 2022 Tundra videos and am aware of a lot of the issues and shortcomings, but your video really gave a unique perspective and pointed out tons of things I haven’t seen anyone else mention, it’s clear you love with and use this vehicle. Thanks for the video!
I appreciate your review. Yes there are issues. Several complaints you have can be overridden. This is a platform that will be developed. Sounds like you’re American. I’m sure that some things will take time to appreciate. It seems like a perfect truck to modify. You’re used to a modified vehicle. The beeping has overrides. Give it a year or two. The only vehicle with automated sound is the pro.. learn your truck a bit more. I agree with the rants on necessary prescription service. If more updates deliver more services that allow adapting to times I’d agree to a paid subscription
Took the truck in and had all the sensor sensitivity and volume turned down a bit. Doesn't solve the 3 check engine lights I've already received or the 3 safety recalls toyota has sent me
A lot of those stuff you speak about you can turn off. The lane departure and that auto break. Not an issue. But those other stuff you complained about definitely. The pay for nav, the dimensions. How low the off-road is to the ground, the horrible break over angles, especially the front end.
Great video. If I want to drive with my belt off and my door open I should be able to. The lane departure noise/correction scared the shit out of me the first time it kicked in.
Awesome video. We are in the market for the truck now and its so hard to pick one. I like the look for the tundra's but man all the sensors and safety features are just excessive and really take away from the overall drivability of the truck. I'm looking elsewhere right now (GM, RAM, Ford)...
You can switch the lane keep assist from an audible alarm to vibrating the steering wheel. I have 1000 miles on my Tundra and I the only beeps I hear is if I'm getting too close to an object.
6.50gal or more for fuel in 🇨🇦 right now so I had to make a move on my 18 tundra, great truck but 13 mpg and 9 towing the trailer. Needed something more fuel efficient. Wanted a new hybrid tundra, minimum 2 year wait list. Found a 22 powerboost F-150, so happy with this truck. Basically nothing is not better with the F-150. After a Tacoma and 2 tundras, toyota is very intrusive with the driver assistance, all that beeping would drive me nuts as well as the visibility issues. Great video 🍻
I have a 2022 Tundra. I really like it, but agree with some of the things you brought up. What is the button you need to press to allow moving the truck with a door open? I also find this parking brake design annoying. I sometimes need to move the truck a few feet but can't with a door open.
I have to disagree about the Tundra,I did love my old one. Just traded it in with 245k,only thing replaced was the starter. But the truck with the old transmission always annoyingly hunted gears if doing a lot of hills and guzzled gas. The new one is way smoother faster and ride is on a different level no comparison.
Feature subscriptions are a huge deal right now in the automotive industry, BMW and Mercedes are about to come out with pay per month features in some of their more upscale models. I love the FZJ80 since it's affordable to DIY and you can upgrade/restomod any features that are worth incorporating from a modern car. I had a first gen Sequoia and that was an outstanding grocery getter/car camping rig.
I think this guy made this video just for hits... I have 22 trd off road limited, great truck so far. If you drive it easy you can average 20+ mpg and its not even broken in. Has so much power if you need it. Drives so smooth that my GMC Denali HD felt like something was broken in suspension. My only concern is twin turbo and reliability but time will tell...
I remember feeling this frustrated with my 3rd Gen Tacoma. It's taken years to get used to and I'm still counting the days until I can swap it for something else. Toyota North America taking over the truck production for Toyota is Toyotas downfall
While I agree there are compromises that make thing’s frustrating for someone who’s use is on the extreme end of the use spectrum for these trucks (wether or not dudes admit it, their trucks see dirt maybe 1% of their lives)., but most of your complaints can be addressed with simple setting adjustments. The seatbelt alarm did require a visit to my dealer to handle during an oil change and they removed it completely. Spend some time getting to know your truck or at least buy something more focused to your needs. The TRD Pro would have solved a bunch of your problems.
Not sure what is so unacceptable about the automatic parking brake when you move and the door is open. That is a safety feature I would actually want so for whatever the truck doesn't just roll off!
as someone who pay attention to small detail i completely agree with your frustration. although it was their first attempt at a new design, it’s disappointing coming from Toyota. Gr8 vid
Let's face the truth. Electronic will devour our joy. As much as we love higher trims. I have owned up to lower trim with less electronic hassles. Keep the videos coming Max!!
Wow. Yeah I’m a bit bummed by a couple of these issues with my 2022 Tacoma. I feel the 4Runner is a much nicer made vehicle. But man, the Tundra seems unacceptable in a few ways.
@Ed TV toyota focuses on reliability and spends their money on making the car last long vs adding pretty buttons, theres plenty of articles and videos behind Toyota engineering. Proven to go millions of miles on oem engine and trans. My 2005 gx470 is fully loaded with amenities cars now-a-days are offering as a premium. (dvd, dual climate L+R , front and rear climate, heated seats, navi. back up cam, you name it.) I love chevy and have a 65 and 71 C10, but as far as modern tech and reliability Toyota for me.
@BankLO All Toyota's lack soft touch materials.I have a 2022 Sierra and it's loaded with soft touch materials.Front and back. It feels more premium. I didn't like these new Tundra's and went with GMC instead.
I literally bought the 21' Tundra because it was so old-school. Hopefully I won't need to worry about dealing with these new gen trucks for a very long time.
my 2007 Toyota Tundra was the best vehicle I ever owned, I sold it when it had 320,000 miles on it and it had just finally had its first major problem (bent valve needed top end rebuild) before that all I ever had to do was replace the starter, radiator and a timing chain (not cheap) still sold it for a decent amount considering and now looking for another truck am wishing I had just spent the money to rebuild it. to get something comparable I need to spend like 60k and from the sounds of it the new ones aren't as good!! I loved my tundra ! I would agree that even the 07 was not great off-road straight out of the box but I used mine for work ,towing a cargo trailer every single day, it does very well for that type of thing and as a very comfortable reliable vehicle.
Holy Cow! First of all, thanks for making this video because I knew when I was on the lot looking at these I was getting all of the same vibes with regard to not just the use of plastics everywhere but thin brittle plastics and that cheap action feeling you get from this truck. I made a video over on my channel looking at an SR5 and I was really disappointed as I was going thru it. Any turbo issues yet? Thanks again from a fellow tuber! Thumbs way up on this vid.
We had the same issue with android auto with my wife’s Camry. We switched to a better chord and it seemed to help a lot. I think it’s and android auto thing bc I recently switched back to iPhone and it doesn’t have that problem in her car.
Alot of these issues were present on my Tacoma.. until my brother showed up with a programmer and made them all disappear! I speak of the nanny tech of course.
I’ve got a 2003 with 250k , rides better than most cars, totally reliable, v8 is probably going to outlast the new whoosy turbo 6 cylinders. It’s been outside in the elements for 17 years, 10 of which are in Florida a quarter mile from the beach, and paint is still pretty good , only rust spots are from road rash. Still looks good. My niece bought one on my recommendation and after 4 years and 350k, she welds all over the country , no problems. she traded it for a Dodge Ram because she liked the ram appearance . It stranded her on highway twice the first year
Well, it seems like fuel economy and safety is what people wanted these days, which means lots of warnings, beeping, plastic and an aluminum body. I’ll stick with my 2018 Tundra and love every minute of it.
What kind of mileage have you averaged? I considered trading my new Rebel for a trd off-road. But every single one of these is not an issue with my Rebel. So probably not. But I do get 16mpg avg with 295/70r18’s. So it definitely costs more to drive. But…that’s my only complaint so far.
I’ve read lots and lots of positive reviews from Rebel owners. So many, that it’s likely our next purchase. I really wanted this Tundra to take the cake, but I don’t think it’s gonna happen. I’ve driven the new Rebel and loved it right away.
Bummer about the parking brake and open door. I do that move all of the time when hitching up trailers or backing around a corner on the driver's side.
That Ebrake deal has been in Dodge vehicles for years. A few other brands have it also. I drive all kinda vehicles every week so I know how annoying it is. There's some brands out there where you have to press a button to unlock the brakes everytime you get in the vehicle before you can put it in drive. For the cramped feeling I think the fact they all have to share the same frame they can't make one too big because of the Tacoma. It's so odd that my 21 Tacoma SR5 has automatic headlights lol. Couldn't you adjust the sensitivity of the sensors? I don't even use the lane sensors at all.
I’m pretty sure that when driving this truck everything is being recorded in regards to all the beeping and safety features so that Toyota can protect itself from future lawsuits brought on by their customers. I’m sure that they (and all the other car manufacturers) are not really interested in saving lives as much as they are interested in saving themselves. Just a thought. I like your channel.
I totally agree. When I used to operate fire trucks the trucks recorded data for this exact purpose. It could sense how hard you depressed the brake, the speed you we going, the traffic conditions, even your seating position. And it was 100% to protect the Department and the manufacturers in case of a lawsuit.
Question, not too be rude, but did you not wait and test drive one before you bought it? Especially when your tall, it’s a must before any car purchase.
Thanks for this video I was on the fence about buying the new model or used 2021. I'm glad I found a used 2021 with 50K miles Platinum edition I love it so far.
NHTSA and EPA regulations are killing the ability for companies to provide reliable, durable 4x4's with equal or higher power than previous models... Even my 2017 tacoma was absurd, the first Toyota 4x4 I've ever owned where my stud welder for dent pulling would just melt through even on LOW with small pins! 🤦♂️ Every year mileage requirements go up, mandatory safety equipment and testing goes up... Really we've been past the point of no return of having no "real" 4x4's since roughly 2010... If only we had exemptions for REAL Toyota 4x4s like Australia and South Africa... Atleast Ford tried with the Raptor, and Dodge with the power wagon until the EPA necessitated the gas powered ecoboost and terrible transmission... Ford didn't have the best history of reliability before being hampered by having to pair up that combo to maintain the same power levels at a higher EPA spec'd MPG rating... And Dodge died as soon as FIAT took over... RIP Bronco owner's wallets is all I can say 😐 Thanks EPA 👍 now go give some more tax credits to Amazon and Walmart who import everything on cargo ships burning millions of gallons of unrestricted crude oil and low grade diesel so we can have landfills full of un-repairable, single use import products... Great "Green" initiative EPA 👏
@Wayne Wallace 160,000+ miles and you've had to replace an O2 sensor?! With that much going wrong on your model of truck you definitively a lemon! 😆👍
I feel the same, so I'm sticking with my 1st gen 4x4. I love it's reliability, simplicity and size. It has it's shortcomings but the vaunted Toyota reliability stand out in the 1st. gen 167K and 1 oxygen sensor replaced.
All those beeps have settings that can be changed at the dealer usually
Everything will be aluminum before we know it.
I couldn't agree more....
Thank you Max for letting us and more importantly Toyota know this is totally unacceptable.
@MWAclanGaming the first gen 3.5 definitely had some issues that have been addressed. We have had zero issues so far and friends I know with more mileage have been good as well.
@Tim Vildis How the reliability on the 3.5L been? I'm thinking about getting a ford tremor.
These things would be reason enough for me to trade that POS in immediately.
@James G fair enough.. but still 60k to 120k for these trucks and other model trucks. Something is not right here stop messing with us.
@Marcus Smith it’s like buy an eco boost mustang and being upset it isn’t as fast as the GT500.
You should probably trade it in for a 2015-2021 Tundra TRD Pro. Robust motor & non of the electronic crap. It would take more work to run 35s but it would be more durable for sure
@C G wait? What? No cooler? Why did they do that? As as a result does the trans gone out more frequently ?
And best part is no cute v6 with turbos in it.
the more I watch vids on the new tundra makes me more happy about my 2016 TRD pro all black baby
@brian finlay fuel economy sucks
One of the reason those beeps is so infuriating to me is that I know that as soon as you overuse a super annoying beep like that, eventually you learn to ignore them thereby rendering them not only useless, but dangerous. It's a "cry wolf" situation where when you really need the beep you'll have already ignored it.
@Jason Freeman Just turn the alert off in the settings.
legit. "alarm fatigue" is a well documented and studied issue in health care.
Exactly this has been proven as well people well not listen when it’s actually needed, however the auto manufacturers must do this in order to stay compliant with the government regulations! 😳
Hey max, I hope you see this comment. So I have quite a bit of experience with these 22 tundras my friend jus got 2, a limited TRD Off-Road and he traded in his 2019 1794 for a 2022 TRD Pro, I have been test driving the limited for almost a month now. And to address some of your concerns, the truck does beep at you a lot but for most of these things you can simply just turn them off, like all the safer gadgets that freak out when you’re off-road, for example, lane centering assist etc, they all can be turned and they won’t bother you. Secondly the TRD Off-Road while it has the name off-road in it, it’s more of an appearance package as I have discovered, it doesn’t really make the truck any more off-road capable than a bone stock, I mean it adds the more off-road tires and crawl control but that’s about it, to really get the best out of a TRD-off-road it has to be lifted with better tires as my friend and I found out while taking it off-road bone stock, it scraped and banged on a lot of things, but once the lift kit went on it, it changed into a different truck, also the front bumper on these 22’s are pretty low to the ground for efficiency sake so if you don’t wanna scrape it, it’s most likely would have to be modified. For the android auto disconnecting, I have figured out that it mostly happenes when you wirelessly connect to it, so most of the time using the cable solves that issue, I’ve also had the same problem in a lot of BMW’s where android auto or apple car play just disconnected on me while I was using it, and switching to the wired connection helps, and the problem can be fixed with an OTA update. Regarding the check engine light, same thing happened to my friends Limited Off-Road, it came on while we were driving, tried to restart the truck that didn’t change anything, we took it into the dealership and they ran a scan on it, nothing came up, it happened to just be a glitch for us. So i would say you should try to run a diagnostic check to see what the problem may possibly be. I feel this is the case that happens with any first year vehicle, same thing happens when the previous Gen tundra came out, it had its own fair share of issues but they were all worked out in a year or 2, same thing goes for any brand really, Ford has had a bunch recalls on the new F-150, it’s what happens when you get an all new vehicle, essentially the customers are the beta testers which sucks cos customers who get the bad example have a soured experience of the brand. In the case of the tundra, I have noticed that the trucks who were made the earliest seem to have the most amount problems, while the latter made trucks, have less problems. I have seen people who have had nothing to say but good things about the tundra on KZclip and I’ve seen people who have had problems. I’m really sorry your truck hasn’t been making you happy, hopefully things would turn around. I’ve had nothing but good experiences with the tundra I test drove for quite some time and I’m looking into getting one for myself l, preferably a TRD Pro, Capstone or 1794. I think the new tundra is still a great truck, it’s pretty darn fast for what it is, the interior is miles and miles better than the previous Gen, it rows more, which is very important to me and it’s a lot more comfortable than the last generation. I’ve had a lot of seat time in the last Gen and I can confirm that. I also think it looks better but that’s a controversial opinion 😂. People like to hate on the new thing especially on the internet which made me start to doubt the new trucks but once I test drove one, I fell in love.
Great response!! Thanks for sharing. Thinking about buying a platinum - any concerns there?
Lol how do you fix the lack of front tow hooks 🪝
My guy, have you ever heard less is more? I gave up trying to read the book you put on here. If I buy a truck that says off road then it should be off road ready. I shouldn’t have to throw over a grand to lift it. And fuck all the sensors. Oh just flip a switch. Fuck that don’t add them. Give me a 01 lifted XJ. Destroys this truck. Shit a base XJ would destroy this truck
Totally agree with this.
bro wrote a whole essay
With this being the first year of the updated model hopefully they update and fix a lot off the issues you addressed in the next few years. I’m sure you’re not the only one with the same problems.
Also I’m glad I have a manual Tacoma and a manual parking brake. Really the only “auto” feature it has is the cruise control and man when it hits the brakes it freaking slams on them. Other than that I’m glad it has less “safety” features than other modern trucks
@Allan Yang The tundra isn’t the only one that suffers this problem. Most if not all models have issues/bugs to work out in the first couple of model years even with testing. The hard part about testing is real world scenarios where people drive differently and discover issues that were not found during testing pre production. It’s unfortunate but that’s just the way it usually happens
It’s true it’s the first year of release. But engineers been working and testing for at least a year. The prototypes should of seen these problems before allowing it to be in production.
I agree the safety and quality issues suck but I recently took my dad's limited trd off road for a roadtrip and it was a great experience for me. I love the new drive-train way more than the old due to how smooth and quick it is. The adaptive cruiser control and lane keep assist basically made it to where I wasn't even driving most of the trip, just holding the steering wheel. After a 9 hour drive, I wasn't even tired or anything.
I also hated the beeping in lane assist. You can change that so it just vibrates the steering wheel. I was very happy to find that it could be changed. Mine has never experienced the random beeping like you are experiencing.
In all Toyotas it’s annoying, I turned it off cause on the merge lanes for freeways, it would try to turn me back into the lane instead of merging. If you have the turning lights in, no problem but when you don’t, it forces you back into your lane. I hate the seatbelt reminder cause I have a child, and when she’s not with me sometimes, the car registers weight so it starts beeping and after a minute it’ll turn off, but seems now with the newer safety sense versions, they’re going to kill you with noises 😂
Man, I would be trading it in. That thing would drive me insane. I wouldn't invest a dime into upgrades.
A check engine light on a new truck lol never mind. I won’t even think about this truck
@Kaleb Spicer Stop calling your car a she you don’t know if it goes by they/them pronouns
@Kaleb Spicer this dude made a 16 minute video about all the things he hates about this truck and didn’t say a word about the fact it has 2 less cyls. Not saying a 6 is better but let that sink in lol
@Kaleb Spicer you mentioned v8 3 times in this. Man you’re insecure af 😂
Like Scotty Kilmer said (you tube mechanic) and he loves Toyota, don't buy no brand new model vehicle in the first year he mentions this model also. They are still trying to work out any bugs that didn't show earlier .
Probably pressing a button, changing some settings, and some after market tuning solutions could improve your experience. Interested to hear what you like in the next video, and see how it balances out.
The raptor blew up on him and the tundra stops/alerts his driving style which causes him problems.
I think his off road expectations of a stock vehicle are too high, but also his driving style seems to be causing him issue with newer vehicles.
Get an older vehicle without safety technology, actually lift it and put on off road armor/tires, and these problems probably won’t occur. It would also be a lot cheaper than smashing trucks costing $60-90k
These truck cost way too much to have to do all that.
The way he nitpicked in this last video i doubt he'll have much nice to say about it even though it didn't leave him and his family somewhere stranded....
Great video man, I have noticed that safety and economy have taken over driver usability and sadly is what i have seen is that in order to get more driver usability you need to downgrade trim level which is a let down since some people want certain things but cant get with certain trim levels, amazing video though shows what should be addressed with toyota to make their truck better for next year
I noticed that the headroom was much lower in the new models than in my 2006 Tundra. The lower windshield height also is a deal breaker.
Hey Max. Thank you for the review. I recently bought a new Ranger a few months ago and I have almost the same issues. I’ve had several Fords and Toyotas and I think with Covid and all the shortages these car manufacturers are getting cheap on ALOT of things and it’s crazy frustrating especially when everything is marked up..
I’m sorry that you had to deal with the 2022. I’ve seen so many reviews prior to it coming out and I didn’t like what I was seeing so I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the 2021 TRD pro and absolutely love it. Its everything I wanted in the truck and lotta things that you discussed about the alarms and sensors I have Don’t have those issues. I would see if I could trade it out for a 21. Just saying. You should find one and drive it. Toyota should call you to test there shitz so you can show them the Max Pain we all love!
Awesome video! Always enjoy seeing peoples perspectives or takes on things. I virtually have the same exact truck. I have the SR5 that is upgraded to the max | basically a limited trim level. I do NOT have any of the beeping you are getting while you drive. To help you out, maybe try turning off the lane assist? That is the first thing I did. The ONLY time my truck beeps is when I am in reverse. Secondly I thought the automatic air-dam [under the bumper] was only on the Sport packages | not on the Off Road Packages [Mine does NOT have one]? Not saying you are incorrect- maybe its a limited trim level thing? I know you are pretty well versed in truck knowledge- this is more of a question to anyone that knows for certain.
Regardless- awesome video | great content! I hope the truck works out for you in the end!
I have the exact same truck. Simply turn off the features you don’t want on and the noise goes away. His noises are primarily caused by motion detection. And, while driving forward or backward, with the door open, I’m glad the brake engages.
Best most honest review I’ve watched. I too have noticed how small the windows and roof line looks. I was on the fence about this truck, now I know NOT to buy this rig. Thanks.
I was super excited to test drive one of these and was very disappointed. Just so you know i hated my eco boost truck and it made me think of it with its rubber band power delivery. They are quick but almost not connected to our foot inputs. I ended up going with the TRX and absolutely love it. It’s old school feeling in how it drives with modern features and tech. I will say i also hate the automatic parking brake when the door is open. I’m thinking of backing up to a trailer.
Why do you need the door open while hooking up? You can’t see the hitch.
Great video. I learned a lot. Have been considering trading my 2019 TRD Pro for a 2022 TRD premium. This video is more evidence as to why I should not trade.
Makes me appreciate my 2014 Toyota all the more.Kills that grass is always greener obsession with new models though.The lack of windshield view would have not even got me to the test drive phase
I'm glad you commented on this. Overall the Tundra 2022 was a big disappointment for those of us who are consumers of this wonderful model of car and expected much more.
I have a 2010 with over 300,000 and it has been an excellent experience, the best car I have ever had, its main use is to be my car for the day but mostly for overland.
I also own a 2010 Tundra. Completely agree, it is reliable and just works!
I have a tundra limited 2022 and absolutely love it from top to bottom, if you have problems with android maybe you need to change to an iPhone, I haven’t had any issues with car play, and all the safety features can be adjusted or modified on the main screen settings, what I love the most are all the parking assistant cameras make it so easy to park, the parking sensor can also be turned off when you are towing a trailer or something so it doesn’t affect the automatic brake system, good luck every one ✌🏽
Love my 22 limited premium!
Thoughts exactly!
The parking brake thing really gets me too. My wife and I just purchased a 2022 Grand Cherokee. We recently took a trip with the pop up and had to take the jeep because my truck was in the shop. I was trying to back it up to hook up the trailer with the door open. The parking brake kept setting and it took me 10 mins to figure out why. Very annoying when I was just trying to get a better view of the trailer.
Excellent review. I'd been thinking about another one of these or a Sequoia or an LX600 (I currently have a 2012 Tundra and a 2011 LX570), but between rats periodically getting into the Tundra's engine bay to chew on the soy-based wiring (which apparently is still being used in 2022) and all the annoying new tech on the 2022, I'll hold off on buying anything new from Toyota or Lexus for at least a couple of more years...or maybe just bring my 1993 Land Cruiser back out on the road regularly. I've loved Toyotas for years, but the quality, reliability, and sheer driveability seem to be going backwards nowadays, not forward.
@Don Bonser it will outlast my 2022 😂
@D Thank goodness my 1993 LC is still reliable! :)
If you’re waiting for another 93 landcruiser fo be made you’ll be waiting for a minute lol
I would have to agree unfourtunetly. I would absolutely love to buy a new 90s erra truck haha 😄
I have a 2022 and agree with you on most everything you said. I’ve had it a month and my wife can already tell that I’m losing interest in it. I came from a 2020 GMC and honestly I’m missing it.
I’ve had my 21 tundra for 1 and a half years now. I love it as much as I did when I first bought it.
I was driving a 73 f350 though. The 21 is my first new vehicle that I’ve ever bought.
Hope you end up liking your 22 or get into something u love.
FYI - you can change the lane departure to vibrate. It's buried in the dash menu. Or if you hold the button for 10 seconds it turns it off. Turning it off persists when you shut it off.
Thank you so much for this real world use video! I am a farmer and so the constant beeping, seat belt, park brake, safety "features" etc are a HUGE deal breaker for me. These manufacturers need to remember that people use trucks for more than just highway driving. Let us control the damn things! It looks like I'll be sticking with Ford again for my next truck. Too bad, the TRD Pro was looking good.
@Maxx Powell just trade it in already!
@Maxx Powell That's a major bummer, but I appreciate you sharing your real experiences with us. Most videos on KZclip are just people walking around the truck in the parking lot
I feel the exact same way. This truck is terrible around the farm. I never want to use it 😕
I agree with your comments. It is the smallest things that do annoy you. I have a 2014 and when I first hopped in the 2022 for a quick look I felt like I went backwards in quality wise of the interior.
Thanks for the annoying small things ,appreciate it.
I love my 2014. It's got 180k miles right now and still feels new. No way I'd buy a new one.
Thank you so much for a very informative video! In my opinion, only the Tundra from 2007 to 2013 was the most successful model. (this is a convenient, reliable tank for every day) After 2014, the tundra lost many of its important practical qualities. I was waiting for a new Tundra and now I am no longer a Toyota Tundra fan boy, I am looking around to see what other pickup truck I can buy
If you get tow package, you get an integrated brake controller and larger fuel tank
@Matt F for example ?
I have to disagree. My 15 is essentially as you mentioned. The "refresh" was to put a little more into the truck without a complete overhaul. They're still a tank and reliable but with a few extra amenities.
Man, you said it! Had my '22 for a couple months now and these little things drive me insane and make me wish I would have kept my 2012 model. It makes you wonder if any of these egghead penny-pinchers ever owned or used a truck before. Like, why change a working formula if for no other reason than to fatten their bottom line?
I’ve been eyeing a new Tundra to replace my high mileage 4Runner. One of my favorite things about the 4Runner is that it lacks all of the technology. Maybe letting the market settle down and picking up a 21 Tundra would be a better option.
Thanks for sharing, these are the kind of things I was afraid of with this new Gen Tundra. It’s very unfortunate that Toyota is trying to milk people for subscriptions on something as basic as navigation. The other “safety” items seem extremely annoying. Terrible vehicle experience. I’m a Toyota guy but I don’t think I can bring myself to buy a Tundra like this, unless at the very least a good tuner is available to fix these electronic issues.
@Sasuke Uchiha I wouldn’t be surprised but that’ll be one more reason for me to NOT buy a new Toyota of any type. I fundamentally hate these things.
I think they are adding remote start as a subscription too after a certain amount of time
This further confirms my want for a 18-21 Tundra
Thanks for helping me confirm I’m making the right decision by keeping my 2020 Tundra.
your right it should be higher but the trd of road is more of just an appearance package like below a tremor or rebel if you want off road capability you should get a trd pro, about auto headlights it has them on the left stock you just need top turn it up once to where it says auto, in the settings you can turn of the sensors and make them less loud for the auto parking brake you can also change it in the settings alot of the issues you are having are just fixed through settings and through the dash screen, for the rear seatbelts chime it wont chime unless the seat belt was previously on and then you take it off and put something back there it will beep which is on almost all cars. You really are just bashing toyota about issues that you can just turn off. you also havent even tried to turn these things off.
I see this often with KZclipr reviews. A bunch of negative reviews on the Tesla MY that were literally all just a setting change to address lol. I’m not saying the truck is good or bad, I don’t have one, but making a video like this seems a little premature and irresponsible when you haven’t even looked at how to adjust it.
All these things make sense and they would all totally annoy me too! All that safety crap and features scare me which is why I love my 2017! 2017 was so basic and didn't have 90% of the problems you mention. Hopefully it gets better for your homie!
Great review! Adding your experience from different platforms was very helpful. I hope toyota listens to guys like you.
This is why I’ll keep my 2015 tundra with the 5.7 with only 45k on it and how I like the simplicity of the truck without all that high tech stuff which compromise the durability and reliability of the vehicle. This truck will be my last truck unless something catastrophic happens and I’ll buy a similar one!
Thought about taking advantage of current prices, selling my raptor for a profit and getting one of these. Held off to wait for the reviews and early impressions. So far I just don't see any world where I'd get rid of a truck that does almost everything right for one that does so many things wrong. One thing you didn't mention but that is important in snowy areas like the mountains where I live.... No 4A mode, they're still having you shift in and out of 2H and 4H. That was one of the deal breakers for me, especially early or late season when you're often going from hardpack to asphalt and back.
This is the exact reason I just cancelled my deposit on a new Sequoia. Winter driving without 4A is god awful.
Makes me think sticking with my 2013 was probably the right choice. I really cant believe that they still do not have standard auto head lights
They do on the Platimum, 1794 edition upwards.
Thank you so much for your input concerning the new Tundra. Was on the fence about the truck, now I'm back on the porch. I'm not pulling the trigger on one for a few years at least. My 2019 Tundra TRD Pro is paid for and drives great, no complaints at all. Thanks again.
Every time I watch these videos I'm convinced that my 2017 Tundra is a much better truck in every aspect but fuel economy.
@Cameron McEnturff how so? that 2017 tundra is definitely better in everything besides fuel like he mentioned.
No, no it is not.
I’ve been wanting a Tundra for a couple of years. When the 2022 tundra came out, I told my wife it’s time to buy a 2021. That the New Tundras is not what I want.
Thanks for the review man definitely many things need to change on the new Tundra, definitely wouldn’t buy it till all of those things are fixed!
Thanks for posting this!
Not enough KZcliprs talking about the bad on these trucks.
Have you considered driving safely if you don’t like the safety alerts?
Thank you. I'm a Tundra fan but this model would drive me crazy. These issues are non-starters. If Toyota loses a few years of credibility, it will take forever to recover we customers.
As much as I like the Tundra, I’m not too sure I could go with the newer models. Some of the things (like the automatic lights), i’m surprised aren’t there, especially with the Limited model. It’s the same with the 3rd Gen base Tacos too. When I got my ‘18 sport taco, I was shocked it wasn’t a feature. Annoying really - The dealer just told me to always leave the lights on and they turn off after about 30 seconds. No thanks. I ended up trading it for a ‘19 Off Road with the tech package which came with auto lights. Luckily, much of the safety sense can be disabled on it so not all the beeps are constant. Good luck with it!
@Huw Howells What year is it?
Odd I have the SR5 it has auto lights ?
Great video I have a ram 2019 limited with plenty of miles and now I'm thinking of getting the tundra TRD or the F-150 Platinum FX4 powerboats, I get to see the lack of quality in many things with the Tundra but I love the look of the truck and I was still thinking about it but with all these just makes me more secure of the choice ill make, thanks a lot!
as someone with a '18 Tundra, the dings and sensors on that one can get annoying as well. The '22 seems like overkill. The lane change beep doesnt happen if you have the blinker on
Some of the chimes can be easily turned off. The lane departure can be turned to a vibrate instead. The first beeping you showed though... Mine has never made that sound so I don't know about it. The seat belt chime does turn off after a while even though it seems like forever.
Such a shame, I'm all for a new generation of a truck but everything that was great about the previous tundra they did away with, I'm really trying to be open minded about this new tundra but the more I look in to it the more skeptical I grow but otherwise thank you for the info and review
I recently bought a 2023 Tundra and a lot of the beeping safety items can now be turned off or they have changed to a vibration. I turned off lane keep assist as I found it to be dangerous in many situations. So far, I am enjoying the truck. No problems yo speak of yet.
I totally feel you man, I had a 2020 Trd pro tundra and I didn’t appreciate the plastics around the vehicle as well as many beeping sounds also.
My God those beeps and tones, that would drive me up the wall, I’d lose it, that alone is enough to not buy it.
I’ve watched a lot of 2022 Tundra videos and am aware of a lot of the issues and shortcomings, but your video really gave a unique perspective and pointed out tons of things I haven’t seen anyone else mention, it’s clear you love with and use this vehicle. Thanks for the video!
I appreciate your review. Yes there are issues. Several complaints you have can be overridden. This is a platform that will be developed. Sounds like you’re American. I’m sure that some things will take time to appreciate. It seems like a perfect truck to modify. You’re used to a modified vehicle. The beeping has overrides. Give it a year or two. The only vehicle with automated sound is the pro.. learn your truck a bit more. I agree with the rants on necessary prescription service. If more updates deliver more services that allow adapting to times I’d agree to a paid subscription
Did they also show you how to turn on your auto headlights and disable the rear seat reminder?
Took the truck in and had all the sensor sensitivity and volume turned down a bit. Doesn't solve the 3 check engine lights I've already received or the 3 safety recalls toyota has sent me
A lot of those stuff you speak about you can turn off. The lane departure and that auto break. Not an issue. But those other stuff you complained about definitely. The pay for nav, the dimensions. How low the off-road is to the ground, the horrible break over angles, especially the front end.
Thanks for sharing. That is a pain, especially for the type of people who drive pickups. You don't want so many limitations. Very naggy.
Really informative! I like my 1999 4Runner way better than my 2018 Tacoma for all those same reasons.
Thank you Max Powell for your hard work and great content! 👍
Great video. If I want to drive with my belt off and my door open I should be able to. The lane departure noise/correction scared the shit out of me the first time it kicked in.
Awesome video. We are in the market for the truck now and its so hard to pick one. I like the look for the tundra's but man all the sensors and safety features are just excessive and really take away from the overall drivability of the truck. I'm looking elsewhere right now (GM, RAM, Ford)...
You can switch the lane keep assist from an audible alarm to vibrating the steering wheel. I have 1000 miles on my Tundra and I the only beeps I hear is if I'm getting too close to an object.
6.50gal or more for fuel in 🇨🇦 right now so I had to make a move on my 18 tundra, great truck but 13 mpg and 9 towing the trailer. Needed something more fuel efficient. Wanted a new hybrid tundra, minimum 2 year wait list. Found a 22 powerboost F-150, so happy with this truck. Basically nothing is not better with the F-150. After a Tacoma and 2 tundras, toyota is very intrusive with the driver assistance, all that beeping would drive me nuts as well as the visibility issues. Great video 🍻
I have a 2022 Tundra. I really like it, but agree with some of the things you brought up. What is the button you need to press to allow moving the truck with a door open? I also find this parking brake design annoying. I sometimes need to move the truck a few feet but can't with a door open.
Damn I'm glad I watched this video. I was really hoping to buy a Pro but now I'm thinking more about the Raptor or just keeping my 2014 Tundra.
I have to disagree about the Tundra,I did love my old one. Just traded it in with 245k,only thing replaced was the starter. But the truck with the old transmission always annoyingly hunted gears if doing a lot of hills and guzzled gas. The new one is way smoother faster and ride is on a different level no comparison.
Feature subscriptions are a huge deal right now in the automotive industry, BMW and Mercedes are about to come out with pay per month features in some of their more upscale models. I love the FZJ80 since it's affordable to DIY and you can upgrade/restomod any features that are worth incorporating from a modern car. I had a first gen Sequoia and that was an outstanding grocery getter/car camping rig.
This makes me appreciate my 2019 more. Thanks for this overview
I think this guy made this video just for hits... I have 22 trd off road limited, great truck so far. If you drive it easy you can average 20+ mpg and its not even broken in. Has so much power if you need it. Drives so smooth that my GMC Denali HD felt like something was broken in suspension. My only concern is twin turbo and reliability but time will tell...
I'm so glad I came upon this video. Great review! I had thought of getting a tundra but now maybe I'll look at another truck.
I remember feeling this frustrated with my 3rd Gen Tacoma. It's taken years to get used to and I'm still counting the days until I can swap it for something else. Toyota North America taking over the truck production for Toyota is Toyotas downfall
Agree.
a lot of those things can be worked around but man that beeping and parking brake is just wow
While I agree there are compromises that make thing’s frustrating for someone who’s use is on the extreme end of the use spectrum for these trucks (wether or not dudes admit it, their trucks see dirt maybe 1% of their lives)., but most of your complaints can be addressed with simple setting adjustments. The seatbelt alarm did require a visit to my dealer to handle during an oil change and they removed it completely. Spend some time getting to know your truck or at least buy something more focused to your needs. The TRD Pro would have solved a bunch of your problems.
Thanks so much for the review man! I was seriously considering the Tundra but those beeps and chimes would drive me NUTS!
Not sure what is so unacceptable about the automatic parking brake when you move and the door is open. That is a safety feature I would actually want so for whatever the truck doesn't just roll off!
as someone who pay attention to small detail i completely agree with your frustration. although it was their first attempt at a new design, it’s disappointing coming from Toyota. Gr8 vid
Thanks man. 👊
So glad I decided not to wait for the 22 and bought my 21 Pro. This is an excellent review, and all these things would drive me crazy as well.
Thanks for making this video for us who might not know, hopefully you find solutions you can share with us as well!
Nothing beats 2nd gen tundras. V8 automatic locking rear dif. Massive rear differential. All around best tundra ever built.
Let's face the truth. Electronic will devour our joy. As much as we love higher trims. I have owned up to lower trim with less electronic hassles. Keep the videos coming Max!!
Wow. Yeah I’m a bit bummed by a couple of these issues with my 2022 Tacoma. I feel the 4Runner is a much nicer made vehicle. But man, the Tundra seems unacceptable in a few ways.
@Ed TV toyota focuses on reliability and spends their money on making the car last long vs adding pretty buttons, theres plenty of articles and videos behind Toyota engineering. Proven to go millions of miles on oem engine and trans. My 2005 gx470 is fully loaded with amenities cars now-a-days are offering as a premium. (dvd, dual climate L+R , front and rear climate, heated seats, navi. back up cam, you name it.) I love chevy and have a 65 and 71 C10, but as far as modern tech and reliability Toyota for me.
@BankLO All Toyota's lack soft touch materials.I have a 2022 Sierra and it's loaded with soft touch materials.Front and back. It feels more premium. I didn't like these new Tundra's and went with GMC instead.
Yes Indeed at least until they change/update to the next generation lol
4Runners and gx’s are made better because they’re made in Japan, the tacomas in Mexico/Canada and tundras in USA
I literally bought the 21' Tundra because it was so old-school. Hopefully I won't need to worry about dealing with these new gen trucks for a very long time.
my 2007 Toyota Tundra was the best vehicle I ever owned, I sold it when it had 320,000 miles on it and it had just finally had its first major problem (bent valve needed top end rebuild) before that all I ever had to do was replace the starter, radiator and a timing chain (not cheap) still sold it for a decent amount considering and now looking for another truck am wishing I had just spent the money to rebuild it. to get something comparable I need to spend like 60k and from the sounds of it the new ones aren't as good!! I loved my tundra ! I would agree that even the 07 was not great off-road straight out of the box but I used mine for work ,towing a cargo trailer every single day, it does very well for that type of thing and as a very comfortable reliable vehicle.
Holy Cow! First of all, thanks for making this video because I knew when I was on the lot looking at these I was getting all of the same vibes with regard to not just the use of plastics everywhere but thin brittle plastics and that cheap action feeling you get from this truck. I made a video over on my channel looking at an SR5 and I was really disappointed as I was going thru it. Any turbo issues yet? Thanks again from a fellow tuber! Thumbs way up on this vid.
Hey thanks man. Luckily I haven't had any Turbo issues yet 🙌
We had the same issue with android auto with my wife’s Camry. We switched to a better chord and it seemed to help a lot. I think it’s and android auto thing bc I recently switched back to iPhone and it doesn’t have that problem in her car.
Alot of these issues were present on my Tacoma.. until my brother showed up with a programmer and made them all disappear! I speak of the nanny tech of course.
Honestly, this truck was at the top of my shopping list… was. This truck would drive me nuts.
I’ve got a 2003 with 250k , rides better than most cars, totally reliable, v8 is probably going to outlast the new whoosy turbo 6 cylinders. It’s been outside in the elements for 17 years, 10 of which are in Florida a quarter mile from the beach, and paint is still pretty good , only rust spots are from road rash. Still looks good. My niece bought one on my recommendation and after 4 years and 350k, she welds all over the country , no problems. she traded it for a Dodge Ram because she liked the ram appearance . It stranded her on highway twice the first year
Yes thank you Maxx. Was on the fence but now I know there are too many deal breakers for me.
Thank You, you just convinced me to keep my 2017 (for now) and saved me from my impulse to get a new truck.
Well, it seems like fuel economy and safety is what people wanted these days, which means lots of warnings, beeping, plastic and an aluminum body. I’ll stick with my 2018 Tundra and love every minute of it.
I was hoping to get one but guess I will wait to see if they fix all the bugs..
What kind of mileage have you averaged?
I considered trading my new Rebel for a trd off-road. But every single one of these is not an issue with my Rebel. So probably not.
But I do get 16mpg avg with 295/70r18’s. So it definitely costs more to drive. But…that’s my only complaint so far.
I’ve read lots and lots of positive reviews from Rebel owners. So many, that it’s likely our next purchase. I really wanted this Tundra to take the cake, but I don’t think it’s gonna happen. I’ve driven the new Rebel and loved it right away.
never liked the look of the new one. I'll keep my 2016. was a great review on this. Wish more people would do reviews like this.
Bummer about the parking brake and open door. I do that move all of the time when hitching up trailers or backing around a corner on the driver's side.
That Ebrake deal has been in Dodge vehicles for years. A few other brands have it also. I drive all kinda vehicles every week so I know how annoying it is. There's some brands out there where you have to press a button to unlock the brakes everytime you get in the vehicle before you can put it in drive. For the cramped feeling I think the fact they all have to share the same frame they can't make one too big because of the Tacoma. It's so odd that my 21 Tacoma SR5 has automatic headlights lol. Couldn't you adjust the sensitivity of the sensors?
I don't even use the lane sensors at all.
@Luis Colon lol someone needs to check the owners manual
I just test drove one and I am pretty sure I saw the typical headlights symbol with the "A"
In it for auto.
Hey thanks man all great points you make. Those beeps are annoying as f#€k and the windshield is a game changer . I’ll keep my old Tundra. Thanks
I’m pretty sure that when driving this truck everything is being recorded in regards to all the beeping and safety features so that Toyota can protect itself from future lawsuits brought on by their customers. I’m sure that they (and all the other car manufacturers) are not really interested in saving lives as much as they are interested in saving themselves. Just a thought. I like your channel.
I totally agree. When I used to operate fire trucks the trucks recorded data for this exact purpose. It could sense how hard you depressed the brake, the speed you we going, the traffic conditions, even your seating position. And it was 100% to protect the Department and the manufacturers in case of a lawsuit.
Question, not too be rude, but did you not wait and test drive one before you bought it? Especially when your tall, it’s a must before any car purchase.
Thanks for this video I was on the fence about buying the new model or used 2021.
I'm glad I found a used 2021 with 50K miles Platinum edition I love it so far.
hey max what is the total mileage have you put on your tundra?