Agree with this question. Andre did another phenomenal job with his review of all the models, but I was hoping to hear the payload for their red truck and a small comment about getting the tow mirrors which appear to be $290. Those two items plus rear axle ratings will be appreciated by all of us that tow a travel trailer. Thank you TFL for another great review!
I have a 2013 Tundra and it had one serious issue at about 90,000 km; a throttle body valve. I had it fixed and the truck is still running great at over 210,000 km. I would love to see a HEAVY DUTY TUNDRA to compete with the big 3!! Cheers, Mike :)
I got 400,000 mile out of 2004 Chevy Silverado. Replaced the master cylinder on the brakes and a water pump that literally took 15 minutes. That’s it. Good luck when one or both of the turbo goes out on that tundra. There’s less power, the turning radius is now worst in class, there’s less room inside, compares to prior versions, and there’s no step at the back by the tail gate. That item alone was the most notable at first turn off, other than being a fugly truck. Toyota really disappoints. I know 2 people have issues with the turbo and after waiting a month there’s still no answer on the solution. Is is it mechanical or is it a software issue, they don’t know. And that 10 speed automatic transmission…good luck
Everything I'm seeing here is going to be interesting in how it will translate to the new versions of 4Runner and Sequoia in the next couple years. One thing seems to be certain. They will be far more expensive than I could have imagined just a couple years ago. Thanks for the in depth breakdown guys.
@smart one They can try but it's going to be one heck of a task if the inflation rate doesn't correct by the end of 2022. That, plus they won't make but a few of the base models so they won't be available to purchase anyway. Could keep the dealer markups in play for years to come on all models.
@Incredulous Disbelief I think OEM’s are trying to keep base prices similar to 2019, 2020. It just makes for better advertising. The the real hit comes when you try to spec a model that you’d actually want. The jump to a 4wd SR5 significant, about 10k.
@smart one Agreed, but we've seen these market situations before. It also means that the prices we are seeing now are going to set the new floor going forward. If wages continue to stagnate then there will be far fewer vehicles sold, and maybe that was the whole point all along. Less volume low margin vehicles sold and only luxury high profit vehicles having a market, pricing out 80% of the population, decreasing CO and CO2 emissions. Just a theory.
Some TFL viewers may be too young to remember that mainstream cars were once as configurable as pickups are today. Sedan, hardtop, coupe, convertible and wagon with 4-8 engine options and multiple transmission choices were the rule not the exception.
Thanks for this most comprehensive explanation of options and packages. Well done gentlemen.☮ P.S. Great job steering away from overused height reference of 6'3"👍
Looking at everything, I would want a 1794 Interior, a platinum exterior with the body color grill trim, and TRD pro suspension paired with the hybrid. Seems like the best combo of all available features.
Great overall review guys! When Andre rolled under the truck that’s the first thing in noticed was the different brand of spare tire. It would be interesting to hear from Toyota on the reasoning why they did this. Check it out and let us know. Thanks!!
What a great video!! Many thanks, for explaining the differences in the Tundra models. This video confirms I want the Platinum, once it is allocated and arrives at my local dealer. Iwish and hope that the future of buying cars can be done directly from the website and order how you like it, then pick it up at the dealer of your choice. Thanks again!
@TFLtalk Hi, I ordered a SR TRD sport to be delivered to Canada, I was thinking it will have the 389 HP engine, but now after watching your vid I’m hoping it’s not the 348HP which I didn’t even know was a thing. Can you weigh in with a response on this for me please? Tks for sharing, love all your vids.
Toyota did a good job catching up to the competition. I'd wait a year let them sort it out though, let the market adjust. I'll be keeping my 2008 though.
@Dale Radder when you compare features on other brands they are priced the same. Price out a gmc elivation against a tundra sr5 in the off road edition...the gmc is more when i look.
@Dale Radder it's nothing near the ecoboost. It's actually a 3.4 from 2002. Google is free. Comparing a 3/4 or 1 ton to a half ton is asinine. Do better in life.
Enjoy the educational material as always on the trucks you do. Question: I have a Ram 2020 Rebel with the large sun roof, 12” screen, black out edition and the 17 speaker audio system. Needless to say it’s a great truck and loaded up. Would it be a lateral trade up to a new Tundra or would I be getting a better truck? Thoughts??
Hey TFL - What do you guys think about the fact that Toyota chose to save chips by removing the motorized controls from the cloth seats? In my opinion, this was a poor choice to save chips when there are many others in the truck less important to buyers. They of course have not come out and said this explicitly, but it's obvious they had to save chips where they could and this is one area they did. Almost every 2021 SR5 came with motorized seat controls, since they came with the convenience package.
Thanks TFL for another great video!! I went to see the '22 Limited edition a local dealer and I was a surprised by the GAWR Rear value (same point as Tim below, pulling a travel trailer). The GAWR was lower on this new Limited than my 2016 SR5 CrewMax (1,750 kg for '22 vs 1,885kg my '16). Is there an option/package to bring that Rear GAWR higher than 1,750 kg for the new '22 Tundra or are they roughly the same due to coil-suspension? Thanks!
Long time lurker, first time poster. I've always enjoyed your guys channel as often times you guys are able to grab that first new shiny truck that the manufacturers come out with. The towing tests since 2015 have been nothing short of phenomenal. The comparisons between last generation trucks and current generation trucks performance wise are amazing to see. I do wish for a couple of new things for this channel in the future though. Since Andre bought this truck, perhaps he can go into more detail into the truck as he owns in the long term. As a truck buyer I'm looking for longevity, serviceability by myself the owner, and the mechanical design of the engine and chassis. It would be great to know about the service intervals for each truck you review, where the filters (fuel, oil, and air) are located, how the fluids are changed, and if the spark plugs are in an easy to reach location. More information about mechanical design would be great as well. We can see the interior from the manufacturer's website, but we can't see things like specifications on the turbo, extra emissions components (secondary air injection pump, gasoline particulate filters, EGR), lug patterns, or if the lower control arms are made of aluminum or steel. It would also be great if a short explanation can be given as to why a certain component can be advantageous or not. For instance, stating that the 2022 tundra having a mechanical fan means that the cooling ability is FAR greater than that of domestic 1/2 trucks that currently use electric fans. A lot of truck channels had the opportunity to dive into the open chassis of the 2022 Tundra, but I am quite surprised that no one actually took advantage of it. Sure the engineer shared some details, but there was a treasure chest of information that was not revealed. Ford stated back in 2017 that one of the improvements they made to the turbo was making the compressor wheel out of a nickel super alloy. What is the Tundra's compressor wheel made out of? Does this tundra have a gasoline particulate filter or just the catalytic converters? How many pistons do the brakes have in all the corners? What sizes are the tie rods vs the old tie rods? Are the alignment tabs the same old crappy ones that toyota uses on previous trucks? Can you fit 33 inch LT tires? Are the spindles now aluminum? Is the drive shaft greaseable or disposable? How many splines are in the rear axle differential? Is the engine block open deck, semi open, or closed deck? How many bolts are on the mains? I feel like the truck channel that is able to answer these types of harder questions will be the one that differentiates itself from other channels this year.
Hey guys, I have enjoyed the videos! I have preordered a limited with the TRD package with options in smoked mesquite. I do not think this package comes with step rails or nerf bars. So my question is do you know if previous Gen(2021or2020) step rails or nerf bars will fit the 2022 Tundra? Thank you and happy New year!
I love my Tacoma, but this is interesting. I really want to see the Hybrid MPG and pricing though. If that is a decent price I would be a buyer assuming there is no $3-7K dealer markup.
Thank you guys as always an amazing job and a great effort to make choosing a truck a wise decision based off of actual correct information data that you will need when purchasing an expensive new truck nowadays all this being said I do not believe Toyota would be a choice I would make in trucks at this point it’s the first year out with the TwinTurbo it has a horrible look in the front end no tow hooks there’s so many things about this truck that just says no but we do appreciate the great effort you guys go into we’re making a video and the non-biased approach even on a truck like this thank you
Only one you can get with the body color grille and short bed up here in Canada is an SR with the TRD sport package. I can't really stand that silver trim on the grille, so looks like I would go for the cheap one. Seems like a reasonably decent deal with todays truck prices. Keeping what I have however all hypothetical here. It is free to play around with the websites after all.
I’m curious if you get the tow mirror package (limited, platinum, 1794, capstone) do you lose the power folding of the regular mirrors like the last Gen or do they finally have a power fold from the factory?
To be honest,I didn’t like it in the beginning when you guys bought it..but as the time went by and u guys doing a damn good job explaining in length,I’m falling in love with the baby..tx u all..even this year we all found ourselves in the dark ages,your channel gave something to look forward and keep my mind of my surroundings..tx u all again and wishing u come up with more fantastic videos next year..happy new year guys..love u all xx
Hey guys thanks for the buyers guide - very informative! Do you know if the TRD Pro Super White will come in only the Red interior ??? I can't grow into liking that no matter how hard I try... Just too much of a statement for me! Any idea if a gray or black version is going to be offered for the TRD Pro with a super-white ext???
Would like to see a side by side comparison between the silverado/GMC and the Tundra. Was alot of comments when leaked pics came out that Tundra looked like them.
Looks like the “leak” is just the ac condensate drain. And funny how I always see comments how Toyota copied GM, cause I think the current gen Silverado/GMC trucks look like the 2014+ 2nd gen Tundras (short hood and boxy bed)
I was having flashbacks to high school where the teacher announces “there will be a quiz!” 😊 Thanks for pointing out to viewers about the online Toyota Configurator being zip code dependent. For all Toyota vehicles you may have some frustration when you discover the regional discrepancies in availability ☹
I would love to get into this truck for a lease. The issue is that for the absolute bottom of the barrel base model you'll most likely be paying $500/mo minimum. That is atrocious and not worth it at all. The mark-up on all the vehicles in the market is obviously due to limited stock and the struggle to find new cars at dealerships but still. $500/mo is wild and the worse part is that it is actually one of the cheaper of the full-size trucks. Only other way you're getting cheaper leases is the A plans for Ford or something similar.
I love the truck and I was ready to jump on one but there are some issues i wish they could sort out. I feel like they cheated the limited a bit. Features like the tailgate step should be standard for a limited as well as the headlight trim. All the newer trucks have distinguished daytime headlight trims and it’s annoying you have to go above a limited to get them. Toyota also messed up by not giving the customer an option to color match trims on the front and back. You pay so much for the truck they should give the customer these options
@James Hovey for me personally the tailgate step (and other features which should be standard on a limited trim) are a bigger issue than the tow hooks. Hope they get this sorted out with a refresh next year
All the manufacturers are coming out with great vehicles today, even the base packages that are offered have so many standard options now. What worries me the most is that you will go broke now a days just buy a truck. And repair costs if you try to keep it for 8 to 10 years. Between all the tech features, 10 speed transmissions, turbos. To get a traditional type truck you will have to buy a 3/4 ton or higher if you want to feel what a truck is like. The old tundra you could put a plow on it, now no more. Wish they would come out with a heavy duty version.
Im curious to see how a TRD Pro will tow. I love the look and options of the TRD Pro but I tow a 9000lb trailer so I want that as an option. But the air suspension sounds like a good plan when towing which you cant get with the TRD package.
Have you seen the "Truck King" trip to the arctic sea with a TRD offroad and a TRD pro? It seems the suspension of the 'offroad' with the Bilstein shocks is perfekt for towing. The TRD pro has other benefits, it has deliberately a softer Suspension setup with Fox shocks. It is perfect for fast dirt roads, but it is not as well suited for towing, as it seems.
You’re going to exceed the payload rating on the Pro as soon as you hook up a 9000lb trailer. The payload on the Pro will be ~1300lbs with the weight of the battery under the back seat. Figure 15% tongue weight of 9000lbs is 1350lbs. Then subtract weight of passengers and cargo. I’m sure the Tundra can handle it but you expose yourself to legal/liability issues if involved in an accident and found to be in excess of your GVWR. For the price of the Pro you can get an F350 Tremor 7.3L with ~3800lbs payload, 15k towing, 35” tires, tow hooks, front limited slip, etc and you won’t be up against your vehicles max capabilty when you tow. I’m a Toyota guy but if you want to do real work you still have to go domestic.
Sadly us Canadian's don't get the same package choices with the SR5. The Canadian configurator tool only has the TRD Off-Road package and the SR5 in Canada costs the same as the Limited in the USA.
I believe you can get the SR5 with the “Sport Package” 20 inch wheels etc. (in Canada, they dial the various package options down, with the focus on trims) … and oh yeah, us Canadians are paying quite a bit more!
Funny how I'm able to stay in my lane, get to my destination, stop my truck in time, open my tailgate all without all of this expensive "assist" on my '02 Tundra 4x4. Simplicity is bliss and cost effective.
Yep, if I was ever going to spend $60,000 on a new truck, I'd want to be driving it myself. With all the extras, these things seem to be doing a lot of the "driving" themselves. Some gimmicks, like the elbow-operated tailgate switch, could be handy though.
Guarantee you've at one point strayed out of your lane or had a close call on route to your destination (I think we all have). Nothing wrong with features that help prevent possible catastrophe.
Andrea thanks for showing the packages! When a work truck is available hope toyota will let you test drive it. That will be my option when I get one after this chip shortage is over.
I don't have much need for the off-road package, and most likely going with TRD sport. However, how do you think the TRD sport would do on loose beach sand. It's the one off road use I'd have for the truck. Thanks.
You guys are awesome I went into my Toyota dealer and they told me the SR would tow 12k, the deal fell through because I would not pay the 6k up charge
Yes it happens on my '06. However Toyota revamped design of cab and added deflectors both on bedsides and cab to breakup and direct airflow. Problem no more.😃
@Krasnaludek Lets let the smoke settle before we jump to conclusions. Are we expecting the Tundra to be #1? No. I think it will give some of the big 3 a run for their money though. With the coil spring rears, I bet the Ram is all but out, as that was it's claim to fame, the handling and ride of the coil sprung rear. But it's reliability is through the floor... We will see what happens.
Hey guys, Do you happen to know if the catalytic converter is a lot more protected on this newer model? I'm hesitant to get the Tundra because currently in Houston Texas the catalytic converters are stolen on a daily basis from the older Tundra model.
@lester Parker Don’t tell the city people our secret, let them live in squalor in the big cities, we don’t want them to move out and infect the countrysides 😳
@silent.screams For what it's worth... F150's cats are closer to the engine, more tucked up into the frame between the frame and transmission with a plastic skid plate under it. You can still see it cuz the cat ends where the skid plate ends, and it's just a few bolts to take off the plate.
I don't like that the black softex interior is restricted to certain package options in the limited and SR5 trims. I also don't like that you cannot get the TRD package on the platinum but you can on 1794. They need to offer the 1794 or TRD off road trims with more standard or traditional interior colors, black or grey ect. Get rid of the chrome grill surround on the limited, body matched paint looks so much better than the chrome in most cases.
The thing that made the Tundra stand out from everyone was how they integraded the extended cab truck door into the body. I know its just a little thing, but they tiny doors on the extended cab trucks are just so ugly to me. Its disappointing for the redesign to not have that.
I agree, I really like how Toyota designed the 2nd gen Tundra extended cabs. I’m also disappointed that they followed other manufacturers with door handles that are so close to each other
@jim nielsen correct.. it’s 75-80K out the door. Lol at some of these guys talking about 63,000. Dream on. I got my 6.2 Carbon Pro At4 for 64K out the door back in December 20’ and it’s one of the best choices Ive made. Im glad I didnt wait for the Tundra because thing looks hideous.
Yeah i would be stunned if it was the same as the non hybrid 1794 - maybe he meant similar price as the Hybrid version of the 1794. Theres no way the hybrid system will add less than 2k
Hey TFL guys, is it true that TRD pro comes with hybrid engine as standard offering? Nathan I thought that’s what the surprise was going to be! Lol. Thanks again for the great work on these videos
TFL. You have the platform to help us voice our opinions and concerns. As for Toyota turning remote start into a subscription, please make lots of noise. We do not need ti go backwards. Its time that all vehicles should have remote start. What's next? remote locks on subscription only?
You can not order a Tundra so I think they should have less SR5 packages. The odds of you matching exactly what you want against stock or future allocations will be difficult.
Nice video!! With the new tundra hybrid can it tow comfortably traveling uphill from Denver to Winter Park, Colorado? I have a 34 ft travel trailer UltraLite 6600 lbs dry and 7800 lbs wet and I currently tow with a 2008 5.7 tundra DC. Will the new tundra pull better? I could not find any video that support the new tundra pulling something heavy. thank you!
Your missing out on that panoramic sunroof lol. Even with the glass closed, it really gives a much bigger feel to the interior. I alway drive it with my cloth open and glass closed. When I close the cloth it feels so much smaller. I’ll have to close it when the So-Cal heat comes in July though lol.
What if you want to add a winch ? Even the TRD PRO gets the plastic front bumper with no recovery hooks. I wonder if the aftermarket will be able to make a winch bumper with the way it is integrated to the grille and fenders ??
The aftermarket should be able to do nearly anything. Isn’t that arrangement kinda similar to 4Runner or Tacoma? Those both have pretty extensive aftermarket options to include winches and such.
The more I look at the 2022 tundras the more I think, eat the miles per gallon differences it not much and you would wear a truck out before it would make difference money-wise and buy a 2015 to 2020 Tundra with reasonable miles with good maintenance records that lives in a state were salt and rust is not a big issue, you know AZ and keep the 35 to 40 k difference for well the usual things you have to fix from time to time.
I’m betting the TRD Pro will be mid $60s to lower $70s starting. All depends how much extra that hybrid powertrain is. I’m betting it’ll be close to the 1794 WITH the hybrid powertrain.
Do you know if that tailgate switch is mechanical or electronic? I really want that switch but i dont want to pay limited pricing. Im thinking if the switch is mechanical ill just buy an SR5 and swap out the taillight
Great effort but two things for starters you’ll need a lot patience if you want the truck you designed with Toys website, WHY because the dealer I spoke (12/27/21) with told me production will slow in late January. Second, the head sales person I spoke with was clear that not even he knew much about packages, the sales person are simply most interested in quickly selling whatever they’re allotted. DO NOT waste your time trying to configure one now, wait until 2023 your patience will go much further.
Hey guys. Would like to watch a shootout between 2022 Toyota 4Runner Limited and 2022 Lexus GX 460. Fulltime 4WD SUVs that will disappear soon. The most reliable and safe option for us here in Canada during winter commute. Would like to compare both offroading, fuel efficiency, overall comfort, space for luggage, ect. We also consider replacing our 2008 Highlander Limited (v6 fulltime 4wd) for a modern Highlander Hybrid Platinum. Even though it is not really comparable with the other 2 it is way more efficient and I believe bigger inside. Than you for your great videos.
Too bad you can't get the TRD offroad package with Tow Mirrors and bed Power option. I think Tow mirrors should be an accessory rather than a package, or at least Toyota should consider such a package(TRD off road with Tow Mirrors and bed power). That's a truck many people would buy
Hi guys I have a question you might have some input too,so went to my dealer to buy a 2022 tundra limited and sticker price is at 56000 with a msrp of 14000 on top of that with it coming to over 70000 not including tax and plates etc.does it seem right or am I getting taken advantage of?thank you hope you can shed some light on my situation
@The Truth our dealer doesn't charge over msrp. we have a few dealer add ons, tint, protection, toyo guard. Toyota website is a national average. Not every dealer from every region can go by that. Buying under MSRP at this time is not possible. Trust me I have had to unfortunately let people go because I couldn't take anymore off. Even employees only get 500$ right now. Its just not like it use to be at the moment
These days build your truck on the Toyota website and that will be the true price. Dealers these days inflate the msrp plus add on top because of the short supply of cars. And they make it sound like they deserve it too. Do not pay, just shop around. Don't be afraid to call them out on that. Remember we used to buy under msrp $3-5k, now they're charging $10k over which to me is insane.
Those front tow hooks are amazing! Oh... wait... there aren't any... im sooo glad I bought a 2021! I'll be waiting for the 60,000 mile reviews explaining how the turbo actuator problems are completely under control. 🤣
the double cab w/the 8’ bed looks weird, practical but weird. i think the SR should be in the low $30k’s, although that tranny and the (detuned) Lexus engine is not cheap
Great informational reviews and wants me to buy a Tundra…. But when I go a Toyota Dealer site… there is tons of dissatisfaction reviews and many put on 3000-4000 and trade them as Dealer can fix the issues Vehicles shut down and can’t get them started Just to name a few This scares the heck out of me for the huge costs. Is it just a few lemons or what the heck is going on I really want to purchase a Tundra and drive it and maintain it for 200K miles But don’t know if this is doable? Confused… Great videos guys
Great video, but I got a question. If I order online and want to trade in my car but I can't trade it in at the same time because that's is the only car I have to use for the mean-time. Is it possible to do a down payment and trade my car later?
depends on dealer and how far out the truck is expected. My dealer has allowed about a month before as long as mileage doesn't get to crazy. But we make no promises in case the market shifts. 99% of the time we honor the trade.
That would be up to the dealership. Also they may not want to give you a price for your trade in the day you order the truck but rather the day you actually trade it in.
Agree with this question. Andre did another phenomenal job with his review of all the models, but I was hoping to hear the payload for their red truck and a small comment about getting the tow mirrors which appear to be $290. Those two items plus rear axle ratings will be appreciated by all of us that tow a travel trailer. Thank you TFL for another great review!
I have a 2013 Tundra and it had one serious issue at about 90,000 km; a throttle body valve. I had it fixed and the truck is still running great at over 210,000 km. I would love to see a HEAVY DUTY TUNDRA to compete with the big 3!!
Cheers,
Mike :)
I got 400,000 mile out of 2004 Chevy Silverado. Replaced the master cylinder on the brakes and a water pump that literally took 15 minutes. That’s it. Good luck when one or both of the turbo goes out on that tundra. There’s less power, the turning radius is now worst in class, there’s less room inside, compares to prior versions, and there’s no step at the back by the tail gate. That item alone was the most notable at first turn off, other than being a fugly truck. Toyota really disappoints. I know 2 people have issues with the turbo and after waiting a month there’s still no answer on the solution. Is is it mechanical or is it a software issue, they don’t know. And that 10 speed automatic transmission…good luck
if you dont like how it looks just wait for the next gen in 2040.
Better than that we see if they can deliver to the dealer before the next price increase Toyota is famous for this !!!
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@Jose J. Madrigal I love M&M’s!
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Everything I'm seeing here is going to be interesting in how it will translate to the new versions of 4Runner and Sequoia in the next couple years. One thing seems to be certain. They will be far more expensive than I could have imagined just a couple years ago. Thanks for the in depth breakdown guys.
@smart one They can try but it's going to be one heck of a task if the inflation rate doesn't correct by the end of 2022. That, plus they won't make but a few of the base models so they won't be available to purchase anyway. Could keep the dealer markups in play for years to come on all models.
@Incredulous Disbelief
I think OEM’s are trying to keep base prices similar to 2019, 2020. It just makes for better advertising. The the real hit comes when you try to spec a model that you’d actually want.
The jump to a 4wd SR5 significant, about 10k.
@smart one Agreed, but we've seen these market situations before. It also means that the prices we are seeing now are going to set the new floor going forward. If wages continue to stagnate then there will be far fewer vehicles sold, and maybe that was the whole point all along. Less volume low margin vehicles sold and only luxury high profit vehicles having a market, pricing out 80% of the population, decreasing CO and CO2 emissions. Just a theory.
We have record inflation right now so I don’t picture things getting better anytime soon unfortunately.
Some TFL viewers may be too young to remember that mainstream cars were once as configurable as pickups are today. Sedan, hardtop, coupe, convertible and wagon with 4-8 engine options and multiple transmission choices were the rule not the exception.
One of the reasons Toyota has been historically reliable is their simplicity.
@Gabriel Mejia Corolla sedan, hatch and wagon are sold around the world. Others can decide if the new Cross is a real Corolla.
Or that a Toyota Corolla could be available in 5 different body styles or trims
Thanks for this most comprehensive explanation of options and packages. Well done gentlemen.☮ P.S. Great job steering away from overused height reference of 6'3"👍
@Anthony C Me thinks he's aware. but alot like myself was on TFL b4 T&C
I do note the creativity.
He did say it though. "Almost 6'3", just under that."
Looking at everything, I would want a 1794 Interior, a platinum exterior with the body color grill trim, and TRD pro suspension paired with the hybrid. Seems like the best combo of all available features.
Minimum $100k and Toyota "reliability" has taken huge dives in the past 10 years. The Tacomas and highlanders are garbage.
1794 interior is indeed incredible
Probably gonna run you 100k.
Great overall review guys! When Andre rolled under the truck that’s the first thing in noticed was the different brand of spare tire. It would be interesting to hear from Toyota on the reasoning why they did this. Check it out and let us know. Thanks!!
What a great video!! Many thanks, for explaining the differences in the Tundra models. This video confirms I want the Platinum, once it is allocated and arrives at my local dealer. Iwish and hope that the future of buying cars can be done directly from the website and order how you like it, then pick it up at the dealer of your choice. Thanks again!
Thanks for a great year of reviews TFL! Hope the entire crew is safe with the fires going on. Thanks for sharing!
@TFLtalk Hi, I ordered a SR TRD sport to be delivered to Canada, I was thinking it will have the 389 HP engine, but now after watching your vid I’m hoping it’s not the 348HP which I didn’t even know was a thing. Can you weigh in with a response on this for me please? Tks for sharing, love all your vids.
Thank you for watching.
Toyota did a good job catching up to the competition. I'd wait a year let them sort it out though, let the market adjust.
I'll be keeping my 2008 though.
@Dale Radder Ford. Number 1 broke down truck in America.
@Dale Radder How's those diesel prices? Wait how's that supply?
@Dale Radder when you compare features on other brands they are priced the same. Price out a gmc elivation against a tundra sr5 in the off road edition...the gmc is more when i look.
@Dale Radder it's nothing near the ecoboost. It's actually a 3.4 from 2002. Google is free. Comparing a 3/4 or 1 ton to a half ton is asinine. Do better in life.
The new tundra is where trucks used to be, not where they’re at now. Typical Toyota fashion.
Enjoy the educational material as always on the trucks you do. Question: I have a Ram 2020 Rebel with the large sun roof, 12” screen, black out edition and the 17 speaker audio system. Needless to say it’s a great truck and loaded up. Would it be a lateral trade up to a new Tundra or would I be getting a better truck? Thoughts??
Why would you want to downgrade?
how do you like the rebel? I'm acually looking to buy one haha
Hey TFL - What do you guys think about the fact that Toyota chose to save chips by removing the motorized controls from the cloth seats? In my opinion, this was a poor choice to save chips when there are many others in the truck less important to buyers. They of course have not come out and said this explicitly, but it's obvious they had to save chips where they could and this is one area they did. Almost every 2021 SR5 came with motorized seat controls, since they came with the convenience package.
Thanks TFL for another great video!! I went to see the '22 Limited edition a local dealer and I was a surprised by the GAWR Rear value (same point as Tim below, pulling a travel trailer). The GAWR was lower on this new Limited than my 2016 SR5 CrewMax (1,750 kg for '22 vs 1,885kg my '16). Is there an option/package to bring that Rear GAWR higher than 1,750 kg for the new '22 Tundra or are they roughly the same due to coil-suspension? Thanks!
Wow, what an incredibly well done, very thorough video! Amazing how they put it together in such a sort time.
Long time lurker, first time poster. I've always enjoyed your guys channel as often times you guys are able to grab that first new shiny truck that the manufacturers come out with. The towing tests since 2015 have been nothing short of phenomenal. The comparisons between last generation trucks and current generation trucks performance wise are amazing to see.
I do wish for a couple of new things for this channel in the future though. Since Andre bought this truck, perhaps he can go into more detail into the truck as he owns in the long term. As a truck buyer I'm looking for longevity, serviceability by myself the owner, and the mechanical design of the engine and chassis. It would be great to know about the service intervals for each truck you review, where the filters (fuel, oil, and air) are located, how the fluids are changed, and if the spark plugs are in an easy to reach location.
More information about mechanical design would be great as well. We can see the interior from the manufacturer's website, but we can't see things like specifications on the turbo, extra emissions components (secondary air injection pump, gasoline particulate filters, EGR), lug patterns, or if the lower control arms are made of aluminum or steel. It would also be great if a short explanation can be given as to why a certain component can be advantageous or not. For instance, stating that the 2022 tundra having a mechanical fan means that the cooling ability is FAR greater than that of domestic 1/2 trucks that currently use electric fans.
A lot of truck channels had the opportunity to dive into the open chassis of the 2022 Tundra, but I am quite surprised that no one actually took advantage of it. Sure the engineer shared some details, but there was a treasure chest of information that was not revealed. Ford stated back in 2017 that one of the improvements they made to the turbo was making the compressor wheel out of a nickel super alloy. What is the Tundra's compressor wheel made out of? Does this tundra have a gasoline particulate filter or just the catalytic converters? How many pistons do the brakes have in all the corners? What sizes are the tie rods vs the old tie rods? Are the alignment tabs the same old crappy ones that toyota uses on previous trucks? Can you fit 33 inch LT tires? Are the spindles now aluminum? Is the drive shaft greaseable or disposable? How many splines are in the rear axle differential? Is the engine block open deck, semi open, or closed deck? How many bolts are on the mains? I feel like the truck channel that is able to answer these types of harder questions will be the one that differentiates itself from other channels this year.
I would also add that the truck channel that not only reviews this aspects but educates their audience will stand head and shoulders over the rest.
Hey guys, I have enjoyed the videos! I have preordered a limited with the TRD package with options in smoked mesquite. I do not think this package comes with step rails or nerf bars. So my question is do you know if previous Gen(2021or2020) step rails or nerf bars will fit the 2022 Tundra? Thank you and happy New year!
I just got a job at Toyota. Thank you guys for making this video. It's a great teaching aid for those of us who are new to the field.
I love my Tacoma, but this is interesting. I really want to see the Hybrid MPG and pricing though. If that is a decent price I would be a buyer assuming there is no $3-7K dealer markup.
Thank you guys as always an amazing job and a great effort to make choosing a truck a wise decision based off of actual correct information data that you will need when purchasing an expensive new truck nowadays all this being said I do not believe Toyota would be a choice I would make in trucks at this point it’s the first year out with the TwinTurbo it has a horrible look in the front end no tow hooks there’s so many things about this truck that just says no but we do appreciate the great effort you guys go into we’re making a video and the non-biased approach even on a truck like this thank you
Only one you can get with the body color grille and short bed up here in Canada is an SR with the TRD sport package. I can't really stand that silver trim on the grille, so looks like I would go for the cheap one. Seems like a reasonably decent deal with todays truck prices. Keeping what I have however all hypothetical here. It is free to play around with the websites after all.
I pray the TFL family is being safe out there with the wild fires 🔥 going on in Colorado. I pray you guys are not affected.
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Thanks! All is well.
I’m curious if you get the tow mirror package (limited, platinum, 1794, capstone) do you lose the power folding of the regular mirrors like the last Gen or do they finally have a power fold from the factory?
Still waiting on that MPG loop. Love to see the F-150 Ecoboost do it the same time.
To be honest,I didn’t like it in the beginning when you guys bought it..but as the time went by and u guys doing a damn good job explaining in length,I’m falling in love with the baby..tx u all..even this year we all found ourselves in the dark ages,your channel gave something to look forward and keep my mind of my surroundings..tx u all again and wishing u come up with more fantastic videos next year..happy new year guys..love u all xx
Hey guys thanks for the buyers guide - very informative!
Do you know if the TRD Pro Super White will come in only the Red interior ??? I can't grow into liking that no matter how hard I try... Just too much of a statement for me! Any idea if a gray or black version is going to be offered for the TRD Pro with a super-white ext???
Would like to see a side by side comparison between the silverado/GMC and the Tundra. Was alot of comments when leaked pics came out that Tundra looked like them.
@Chris D. Why would they have the ac running at the end of December?
Looks like the “leak” is just the ac condensate drain. And funny how I always see comments how Toyota copied GM, cause I think the current gen Silverado/GMC trucks look like the 2014+ 2nd gen Tundras (short hood and boxy bed)
Well let's hope the GM pickup ain't leaking like this Tundra is at 24:20 in the video.
Excellent video guys thanks for sharing really helps define the different trim levels.
👍👍for the way that you took time to show everything to help possible new Toyota truck buyers to make the best decision on the truck for their needs
Wish someone would do a video such as this one for the Canadian Tundra models because it’s different.
I would wait for the 2036 model that comes with proper gearing, tow hooks, 4 wheel auto and a face lift.
I was having flashbacks to high school where the teacher announces “there will be a quiz!” 😊 Thanks for pointing out to viewers about the online Toyota Configurator being zip code dependent. For all Toyota vehicles you may have some frustration when you discover the regional discrepancies in availability ☹
I would love to get into this truck for a lease. The issue is that for the absolute bottom of the barrel base model you'll most likely be paying $500/mo minimum. That is atrocious and not worth it at all. The mark-up on all the vehicles in the market is obviously due to limited stock and the struggle to find new cars at dealerships but still. $500/mo is wild and the worse part is that it is actually one of the cheaper of the full-size trucks. Only other way you're getting cheaper leases is the A plans for Ford or something similar.
I love the truck and I was ready to jump on one but there are some issues i wish they could sort out. I feel like they cheated the limited a bit. Features like the tailgate step should be standard for a limited as well as the headlight trim. All the newer trucks have distinguished daytime headlight trims and it’s annoying you have to go above a limited to get them. Toyota also messed up by not giving the customer an option to color match trims on the front and back. You pay so much for the truck they should give the customer these options
@James Hovey for me personally the tailgate step (and other features which should be standard on a limited trim) are a bigger issue than the tow hooks. Hope they get this sorted out with a refresh next year
Tailgate step? How about the complete delete of the front tow hooks? What full sized pickup doesn't have tow hooks? Only the Tundra.
All the manufacturers are coming out with great vehicles today, even the base packages that are offered have so many standard options now. What worries me the most is that you will go broke now a days just buy a truck. And repair costs if you try to keep it for 8 to 10 years. Between all the tech features, 10 speed transmissions, turbos. To get a traditional type truck you will have to buy a 3/4 ton or higher if you want to feel what a truck is like. The old tundra you could put a plow on it, now no more. Wish they would come out with a heavy duty version.
Im curious to see how a TRD Pro will tow. I love the look and options of the TRD Pro but I tow a 9000lb trailer so I want that as an option. But the air suspension sounds like a good plan when towing which you cant get with the TRD package.
Have you seen the "Truck King" trip to the arctic sea with a TRD offroad and a TRD pro?
It seems the suspension of the 'offroad' with the Bilstein shocks is perfekt for towing. The TRD pro has other benefits, it has deliberately a softer Suspension setup with Fox shocks. It is perfect for fast dirt roads, but it is not as well suited for towing, as it seems.
Better get a Ford or Dodge if you wanna tow that much safely
You’re going to exceed the payload rating on the Pro as soon as you hook up a 9000lb trailer. The payload on the Pro will be ~1300lbs with the weight of the battery under the back seat. Figure 15% tongue weight of 9000lbs is 1350lbs. Then subtract weight of passengers and cargo. I’m sure the Tundra can handle it but you expose yourself to legal/liability issues if involved in an accident and found to be in excess of your GVWR. For the price of the Pro you can get an F350 Tremor 7.3L with ~3800lbs payload, 15k towing, 35” tires, tow hooks, front limited slip, etc and you won’t be up against your vehicles max capabilty when you tow. I’m a Toyota guy but if you want to do real work you still have to go domestic.
Sadly us Canadian's don't get the same package choices with the SR5. The Canadian configurator tool only has the TRD Off-Road package and the SR5 in Canada costs the same as the Limited in the USA.
@ron jeremyjnr not really because the canadian dollar worth 25% les then the USD
so unless the deal is over 25% less no really worth it!
I have never looked into it, but is it worth bringing a truck up from the US? My neighbour bought a 5th from the US and got a good deal.
I believe you can get the SR5 with the “Sport Package” 20 inch wheels etc. (in Canada, they dial the various package options down, with the focus on trims) … and oh yeah, us Canadians are paying quite a bit more!
I swear , in Canada we are robbed blind with the prices we pay for vehicles now , the prices are insane and doesn't seem like it will get any better
and they are 10k more expensive... i was looking for the TRD PRO and my dealership expect near 80k...
Funny how I'm able to stay in my lane, get to my destination, stop my truck in time, open my tailgate all without all of this expensive "assist" on my '02 Tundra 4x4. Simplicity is bliss and cost effective.
Yep, if I was ever going to spend $60,000 on a new truck, I'd want to be driving it myself. With all the extras, these things seem to be doing a lot of the "driving" themselves. Some gimmicks, like the elbow-operated tailgate switch, could be handy though.
Guarantee you've at one point strayed out of your lane or had a close call on route to your destination (I think we all have). Nothing wrong with features that help prevent possible catastrophe.
Ahmen Wayne!!!
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Andrea thanks for showing the packages! When a work truck is available hope toyota will let you test drive it. That will be my option when I get one after this chip shortage is over.
I don't have much need for the off-road package, and most likely going with TRD sport. However, how do you think the TRD sport would do on loose beach sand. It's the one off road use I'd have for the truck. Thanks.
What are the suspension differences between the Limited and Limited TRD Off Road? Just the shocks?
Love your videos. Q: Does the platinum model have crawl control??
You guys are awesome I went into my Toyota dealer and they told me the SR would tow 12k, the deal fell through because I would not pay the 6k up charge
I know it was not a range test for 150 lighting but it would be nice to know what it ended up as at end of test
For those who have had the roll down rear window, do you find putting it down causes the bed dust and debris to get sucked inside the cabin?
Its great if you want to blow dog hair around the cabin.
Big yes. I think in 4 years I put it down four times. Just like sunroof, money maker you don’t need and will seldom use.
Yes it happens on my '06. However Toyota revamped design of cab and added deflectors both on bedsides and cab to breakup and direct airflow. Problem no more.😃
That's why you do it!
You guys did a great job with the video. I'm very unimpressed with the Tundra though.
Toyota reliability has tanked in recent years. Nothing but problems with Tacomas and highlanders.
@Krasnaludek Lets let the smoke settle before we jump to conclusions. Are we expecting the Tundra to be #1? No. I think it will give some of the big 3 a run for their money though. With the coil spring rears, I bet the Ram is all but out, as that was it's claim to fame, the handling and ride of the coil sprung rear. But it's reliability is through the floor... We will see what happens.
Same here … we’re looking at the 5th place truck.
Hey guys, Do you happen to know if the catalytic converter is a lot more protected on this newer model? I'm hesitant to get the Tundra because currently in Houston Texas the catalytic converters are stolen on a daily basis from the older Tundra model.
@lester Parker
Don’t tell the city people our secret, let them live in squalor in the big cities, we don’t want them to move out and infect the countrysides 😳
@silent.screams For what it's worth... F150's cats are closer to the engine, more tucked up into the frame between the frame and transmission with a plastic skid plate under it. You can still see it cuz the cat ends where the skid plate ends, and it's just a few bolts to take off the plate.
@DuhDuh Very Interesting. Thanks for the link!
Thanks guys for making videos like this,very helpful.Happy New Years 😀
Absolutely love these guides you guys provide. Also Andreys haircut looks good 😄
I don't like that the black softex interior is restricted to certain package options in the limited and SR5 trims. I also don't like that you cannot get the TRD package on the platinum but you can on 1794. They need to offer the 1794 or TRD off road trims with more standard or traditional interior colors, black or grey ect. Get rid of the chrome grill surround on the limited, body matched paint looks so much better than the chrome in most cases.
The thing that made the Tundra stand out from everyone was how they integraded the extended cab truck door into the body. I know its just a little thing, but they tiny doors on the extended cab trucks are just so ugly to me. Its disappointing for the redesign to not have that.
I agree, I really like how Toyota designed the 2nd gen Tundra extended cabs. I’m also disappointed that they followed other manufacturers with door handles that are so close to each other
Picked up my magnetic grey trd off road (premium) last night. This thing is amazing 👏 🙌
Do you think there will be load leveling options aftermarket for the TRD edition later?
correction: The TRD Pro isn't going to be low 60s. Expect 70s bc it is only offered in hybrid power train
@jim nielsen correct.. it’s 75-80K out the door. Lol at some of these guys talking about 63,000. Dream on.
I got my 6.2 Carbon Pro At4 for 64K out the door back in December 20’ and it’s one of the best choices Ive made. Im glad I didnt wait for the Tundra because thing looks hideous.
My guess would be between 65k and 75k I'd still pay for it though but I might wait for the 2023 trd pro that way they work the kinks out
I think $ 70k msrp and $75k would not surprise me.
Yeah i would be stunned if it was the same as the non hybrid 1794 - maybe he meant similar price as the Hybrid version of the 1794. Theres no way the hybrid system will add less than 2k
I think about 63k roughly and 70 after options
Hey TFL guys, is it true that TRD pro comes with hybrid engine as standard offering? Nathan I thought that’s what the surprise was going to be! Lol. Thanks again for the great work on these videos
TFL. You have the platform to help us voice our opinions and concerns. As for Toyota turning remote start into a subscription, please make lots of noise. We do not need ti go backwards. Its time that all vehicles should have remote start. What's next? remote locks on subscription only?
You can not order a Tundra so I think they should have less SR5 packages. The odds of you matching exactly what you want against stock or future allocations will be difficult.
Thank you for the review. I just got a 2021 TRD Pro so I'm waiting for the 2022 TRD Pro to come out to see if it would be worth upgrading.
I have a 2007 SR5 with 160K miles. Has treated me fairly well but that new truck feeling keeps on creeping up.
Nice video!! With the new tundra hybrid can it tow comfortably traveling uphill from Denver to Winter Park, Colorado? I have a 34 ft travel trailer UltraLite 6600 lbs dry and 7800 lbs wet and I currently tow with a 2008 5.7 tundra DC. Will the new tundra pull better? I could not find any video that support the new tundra pulling something heavy. thank you!
Great video guys, very helpful information and comparison!
Your missing out on that panoramic sunroof lol. Even with the glass closed, it really gives a much bigger feel to the interior. I alway drive it with my cloth open and glass closed. When I close the cloth it feels so much smaller. I’ll have to close it when the So-Cal heat comes in July though lol.
Andre, you guys do good work. When is toyota going to offer the 2-3 OEM Lift kit? Thanks
Nice review, I'm pretty sure the crew cab SR has the roll down back window too.
Also, should I be looking for a specific year? maybe 2018 models are more resilience than 2019, or 2021 rather than 2022.
What if you want to add a winch ? Even the TRD PRO gets the plastic front bumper with no recovery hooks. I wonder if the aftermarket will be able to make a winch bumper with the way it is integrated to the grille and fenders ??
The aftermarket should be able to do nearly anything. Isn’t that arrangement kinda similar to 4Runner or Tacoma? Those both have pretty extensive aftermarket options to include winches and such.
The more I look at the 2022 tundras the more I think, eat the miles per gallon differences it not much and you would wear a truck out before it would make difference money-wise and buy a 2015 to 2020 Tundra with reasonable miles with good maintenance records that lives in a state were salt and rust is not a big issue, you know AZ and keep the 35 to 40 k difference for well the usual things you have to fix from time to time.
I’m betting the TRD Pro will be mid $60s to lower $70s starting. All depends how much extra that hybrid powertrain is. I’m betting it’ll be close to the 1794 WITH the hybrid powertrain.
Your at 77k at the end of the day
My guess is starting at 63k and around 70 optioned out
The sr crewcab also has the roll down rear window while the double cab gets the horizontal rear window
Glad they added a locking rear diff on the TRD off-road package.
I have a question! It’s looks like the receiver where the hitch goes into is bigger? Can you run a 2” or 2 1/2” hitch on this truck??
Do you know if that tailgate switch is mechanical or electronic? I really want that switch but i dont want to pay limited pricing. Im thinking if the switch is mechanical ill just buy an SR5 and swap out the taillight
Can y’all do an updated deep dive with the capstone/TRD PRO and hybrid options for this video now?
Great effort but two things for starters you’ll need a lot patience if you want the truck you designed with Toys website, WHY because the dealer I spoke (12/27/21) with told me production will slow in late January. Second, the head sales person I spoke with was clear that not even he knew much about packages, the sales person are simply most interested in quickly selling whatever they’re allotted. DO NOT waste your time trying to configure one now, wait until 2023 your patience will go much further.
Thanks for a good review of all the models.
Gentlemen if you haven't done so already would you do a similar assessment on the Tacoma? Thanks
Can you do some tests back to back with the last Gen and this Gen? Fuel economy, Ike gauntlet
Hey guys. Would like to watch a shootout between 2022 Toyota 4Runner Limited and 2022 Lexus GX 460. Fulltime 4WD SUVs that will disappear soon. The most reliable and safe option for us here in Canada during winter commute. Would like to compare both offroading, fuel efficiency, overall comfort, space for luggage, ect. We also consider replacing our 2008 Highlander Limited (v6 fulltime 4wd) for a modern Highlander Hybrid Platinum. Even though it is not really comparable with the other 2 it is way more efficient and I believe bigger inside. Than you for your great videos.
Too bad you can't get the TRD offroad package with Tow Mirrors and bed Power option. I think Tow mirrors should be an accessory rather than a package, or at least Toyota should consider such a package(TRD off road with Tow Mirrors and bed power). That's a truck many people would buy
Happy new year. AWSOME content. Keep it up !!!
Well done guys. I’m a Toyota guy and I learned several items.
You learned that you aren’t the only one that wears a dress?
Heard there’s and issue with the turbo waste gate. Hopefully this is just a rare issue.
Awesome truck , will sell like hotcakes!
Thank you guys! This helped tremendously
Will there be any issue ordering a Platinum model with upgraded AVS suspension if you plan on ordering the factory TRD suspension lift in the future?
You can't really order a Toyota. Your dealer tries to match you up with what they already have coming or they try to trade with another dealer for it.
Thank you guys for the very best video, it really helps me to making my right decision, tha KS again!!!
Love to get a new truck but my 2014 Tundra won't die!
It won’t die but it’s on life support
What do you think about the softex seats vs traditional leather?
Hi guys I have a question you might have some input too,so went to my dealer to buy a 2022 tundra limited and sticker price is at 56000 with a msrp of 14000 on top of that with it coming to over 70000 not including tax and plates etc.does it seem right or am I getting taken advantage of?thank you hope you can shed some light on my situation
@The Truth our dealer doesn't charge over msrp. we have a few dealer add ons, tint, protection, toyo guard. Toyota website is a national average. Not every dealer from every region can go by that. Buying under MSRP at this time is not possible. Trust me I have had to unfortunately let people go because I couldn't take anymore off. Even employees only get 500$ right now. Its just not like it use to be at the moment
Check 3 dealers.
These days build your truck on the Toyota website and that will be the true price. Dealers these days inflate the msrp plus add on top because of the short supply of cars. And they make it sound like they deserve it too. Do not pay, just shop around. Don't be afraid to call them out on that. Remember we used to buy under msrp $3-5k, now they're charging $10k over which to me is insane.
Laugh and go somewhere else. Market adjustment is something you are not going to get back on trade in. Remember that.
Those front tow hooks are amazing! Oh... wait... there aren't any... im sooo glad I bought a 2021! I'll be waiting for the 60,000 mile reviews explaining how the turbo actuator problems are completely under control. 🤣
You guys are the best, great video 👍
Customers need to be careful with ordering Tundras. Many configuration are dependent on the region you live in.
Can you get the new Tundra with a full bench front seat so you can accommodate 6 people ?
the double cab w/the 8’ bed looks weird, practical but weird. i think the SR should be in the low $30k’s, although that tranny and the (detuned) Lexus engine is not cheap
Which option gives an SR5 the LED headlights?
Limited starts at 46.8k for double cab and 48.9k for crewmax.
Great informational reviews and wants me to buy a Tundra….
But when I go a Toyota Dealer site… there is tons of dissatisfaction reviews and many put on 3000-4000 and trade them as
Dealer can fix the issues
Vehicles shut down and can’t get them started
Just to name a few
This scares the heck out of me for the huge costs. Is it just a few lemons or what the heck is going on
I really want to purchase a Tundra and drive it and maintain it for 200K miles
But don’t know if this is doable?
Confused…
Great videos guys
Great video, but I got a question. If I order online and want to trade in my car but I can't trade it in at the same time because that's is the only car I have to use for the mean-time. Is it possible to do a down payment and trade my car later?
depends on dealer and how far out the truck is expected. My dealer has allowed about a month before as long as mileage doesn't get to crazy. But we make no promises in case the market shifts. 99% of the time we honor the trade.
That would be up to the dealership. Also they may not want to give you a price for your trade in the day you order the truck but rather the day you actually trade it in.
How much more would the hybrid cost?
Thank you for this. Very much helped me.