Jordan, thank you. I cleaned up my house, and kept it clean, and slowed my alcohol down to almost nothing. Got my kids signed up for sports. Got a Job that i enjoy and make good money. Been on time. Life is good man. Its also a stuggle but im the most happy ive ever been as an adult. Really putting my life together.
I met Dr Peterson on the street in Louisville before one of his speaking events. I was starstruck and stuttering and barely able to put a sentence together but my god, I was blown away with how nice and completely attentive he was to me in those brief moments. The attention he paid to me was like I was the most important person on earth just for a couple minutes. A wonderful human being.
My mother is a sadist. Throughout my life, from childhood into today, my mother has taken pleasure in psychologically tormenting me in multiple ways; but, no one believes me. People mistakenly assume all mothers are caring and nurturing toward their children.
i feel you on that .My mom.has been treating me like shit forever. shes never liked my girlfriends my jobs. Ive tried for years to have a better relationships boy she loves my sisters . My perfect older sisters w a perfect life husband career choices etc im.already 46 at this point. its pointless
That is true. You can not elect your mother and father. Or family. In nature not all animals will treat their pups good either. Some are not ok with their kids. There are reasons for that. But still, it is horrible sad. Humans are not different. We all are animals. Even if we think we are not. There are so much reasons and knowing the reasons can bring enlightment and be aware... We need to protect us from people, family or not, so we do not get damaged in life. We need to avoid such people. It is heartbreaking that your mother/father induce so much trauma and suffering. Please, protect yourself and follow your intuition.
This summer I quit my drug addiction , I’d like to say thank you & god bless you Jordan. Your content encouraged me to get thru the fentanyl withdrawals & to be strong. I’m still a monster but it’s mostly tamed (not in all areas but I’m working on it). Missed you when you came to San Jose ,Ca maybe next time
@Good Yeoman One never overcomes addiction. They just find the mental strength to abstain from the addictive behavior. One finds the desire and mental fortitude to suffer through the agony the agony the brain goes until new neural pathways are created .There's a difference between a mental addiction and a physical dependence as well. Especially with opiates, the physical dependence is almost as hard to overcome than the mental part. Addiction absolutely exists as it's evident in the neural pathways created when one uses drugs. Some people are more susceptible than others because of genetics & it's also hereditary.. which is why one person will become addicted to drugs when using socially & another will have no issue. Neural pathways, comprised of neurons connected by dendrites, are created in the brain based on our habits and behaviors. The number of dendrites increases with the frequency a behavior is performed. It's quite interesting actually. So there really is no stance such as 'if addiction is real' to come from, because it is certainly a fact that addiction exists.
I don’t drink. I don’t smoke anything. I have a solid relationship and a good career that I truly enjoy. I stand up for myself as needed and exercise compassion when I can. I am truly grateful for my existence and I don’t take life for granted. I’m going to be married with kids soon and I cannot wait. Thank you Jordan because your videos were the catalyst. Thank you.
Sure. I think that his most recent difficulties have more to do with alleged unprofessional behavior than it does criticism of the government per se, doesn't it? I mean, "Poor people eat too much food" or "climate doesn't exist" aren't direct critiques of any government, are they? I lost interest in what he is saying when I checked out his assertion that "lack of serotonin is the cause of depression"; it turns out there is no scientific basis for that whatsoever. Then I looked into him further only to discover his claims, "I am an evolutionary biologist," and "I am a neuroscientist" to both be false: he's always only had a doctorate in cognitive psychology. I've always intensely disliked and mistrusted paucity of intellectual integrity... (..."There is a false saying: 'How can someone who cannot save himself save others?' Supposing I have the key to your chains, why should your lock and my lock be the same?" ~ Friedrich Nietzsche)
Thank you Dr Peterson. I have learned so much about myself each time I watch you. I come from a very confusing, controlling, violent, alcoholic childhood. While I left home at 15 & have had a successful life, well educated, raised beautiful responsible Christian children, I have often been haunted by my childhood. I spent my entire life trying to get my father to say a few nice words to me. “I love you or I’m proud of you”. I worked hard & was an Executive at the top of my field in both a non profit & corporate. But never once did he accept me. If fact, a few months before he died I asked him if he ever loved me. His answer was “yes, but….” I got up from my chair & told him there was no “but” in love. I did not see him again until he was hours from death. In his will he made sure I knew how much detest he had for me. Yet, I was the only child that was free of drugs, alcohol & had an extremely successful life & raised children that did not end up in jail. For years I have been in emotional pain over this. Your videos are finally helping me move past this. Just a note, I did keep my children away from my toxic family & I raised them without violence. They were raised in the church with parental supervision & guidance. I was heavily involved in their lives. A childhood the opposite of mine.
@Michael Davis strength has a downside. Now I will not allow anyone near me because of being strong enough to protect myself. Although I raised my kids with a church experience, I also have hurt them by those people in the church. I wish it had the best outcome but every experience and every lesson I have encountered has not had a beneficial impact. The consequences of choices are not always pleasant even if it's good for you. The ending doesnt happen until it's over and it's not over yet
I put off watching this for a while because I knew it could set off some sensitivities, but you both handle these difficult topics in such a compassionate and level-headed way, which allows me to absorb the information without being too disturbed. That is a talent, and a needed one. Thank you, both!
Before my career ending accident I was almost always my hockey team’s enforcer. However, I must strongly point out that my reason for taking on that role had very little with the need/want/desire to hurt or dominate others. I fell into that role because of my need to protect my fellow teammates from illegal and purposefully harmful behaviors done upon team. If you intentionally jabbed your stick into a teammate with the intention to cause pain then I felt the need to say “No. There will be repercussions for such behavior. And you won’t like it”. I never went out to intentionally attack anyone. I was there to let others know that if you try to hurt one of my guys then you’ll be dealing with me. You become known as the one that you don’t want to fight with and that, in turn, greatly reduces the amount of times that force is actually needed to be used. “To secure peace you must first prepare for war.” -Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
I disagree. The game itself needs to change. It’s a game and the world won’t come to a screeching halt if no plays it anymore. I stoped playing almost of these games because it’s not fun or a sporting and got into martial arts. Martial arts is violent and an art form. I don’t consider it a sport; moreover, a way of life and a discipline.
Well said! Additionally the fighting results in offsetting penalties. The loss of two players opens up the ice and increases the pace of the game. Putting both sides in a more vulnerable position and refocusing the energy on playing the puck. The days of goon squads on the ice are long gone, at least in the NHL.
I'd strongly advise anyone who has the means, to travel if nessecery to attend his lecture on "Beyond order." I had the pleasure of hearing him speak in Dublin and had a wonderful opportunity to chat with him briefly at a meet and greet afterwards. He encouraged my 16 year old son tremendously with his wisdom, kindness, and his gentle fatherly approach. He left a bullied and deflated teenager with the words "Keep aiming upward kid." My son hasn't looked down since. Thank you Dr Peterson for your presence in the world and the value you have added to it.
I really enjoyed your discussion today. Fascinating to examine the “dark” sides of humanity, which we have all encountered yet seldom comprehended. Your interviews are always stimulating and inspiring. Thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you Jordan, I see ME for the first time! Thanks to the strength and conviction of your honest words, I'm now over 6 mths sober ( after 25 yrs of blind drunkenness) If we drop our ego and pick up common sense...magic happens 🙏✨🙌
Jordan, listening to your videos and your view points on many things has helped me turn a lot of things around in my life. As an Aus Army veteran, who sacrificed my physical and mental health during my service, I spent the better part of a decade eating handfuls of meds a day just to "survive". The past 2 months, off my own back, I've dropped down to 1/4 the dosage of most my antipsychs, and completely dropped my benzo's and quetiapine. If you had of asked me if I had thought this was even possible 6 months ago, I'd laugh at you. But I got fed up with being my own victim. My mind is opening up for the first time in a decade, I've also shed so much weight, I'm now back to what I weighed pre injury in Army. I've finally decided I want to live and thrive, and not just survive. Thank you for all that you do. Please tour Aus again when you can, I wasn't able to catch you last year
@0ptions_90 I agree ... just having someone help me realize the mere possibility that my actions could cause others to suffer in the same ways I suffer (flashbacks, night terrors, panic attacks, etc.) made all the difference in the world. Abuse has a way of making a person believe that their life does not matter. That's a bad trap to become ensnared in ... Too easy to forget others ... Too easy to forget what's real. Life's better when we care about each other ... Although people will sometimes hurt you (real freakin' bad, for what sure as heck seems like no damn good reason at all), I still think that "Looking out for #1" above all else will leave you with even more pain in the end. Amazing opportunities present themselves when we are vulnerable and loving enough to risk everything of ourselves in order to put others first, or to stand up to evil in order to do what's right and good. I saw a crappy show not too long ago that had some of the best dialogue I'd ever heard: "You said I'd be a hero!" "I didn't say you'd look like one." Sometimes evil makes us think that doing the right thing hurts too much. It tries to get us to give up, turning evil inward (which will always hurt others, as well). I guess we just have to keep looking down some dark hallway for that window that's flung open after the door was nailed shut 😉
@Julie Pucciariello I've always been transparent about my struggles, in the hopes it may help someone else push through. As they say; Those of us who have experienced the most trauma, never want anybody else to feel like this, so I try my best to advocate for mental health awareness.
This comment will probably go unread which is more than reasonable and expected, but in case you do happen to run across it I just wanted to say thank you. The more I listen to you the more I respect your opinions. I’m going to buy your book as soon as I get enough money put together. I guess more than anything I just wanted to say to you that I stand in awe of how insanely intelligent you are. It’s inspired me to further my education even if it leads me nowhere. At least I won’t be so damn dumb when I die. I hope you’re doing well outside of your works and your life is as peaceful as possible.
Jordan, I suppose I'm one of the few women who have been with you from the beginning. You have helped so many men sort out their lives, including my 31 year old son. Please allow me to thank you for not only helping my son but for helping me as well. I was able to withstand, with courage, my mother's brain cancer diagnosis and subsequent death in 2017-2018. You have greatly enriched my life in more ways than I am able to put into words. I am forever grateful. Thank you, Sir.
@Samuel Morris Australian research found a cost-effective way to recycle solar panels using electrostatic separation on PV panels to collect out valuable materials, reducing them to 2-3% of original weight. Source: Dias et al. (2022) "High yield, low cost, environmentally friendly process to recycle silicon solar panels" Some additional nuclear power will be needed, but nuclear power has various issues, so preference should be given to renewables. I cited a paper in my previous post that answers your other questions.
@Not Woke Victimhood is a serious issue these days. I'm sure she did try to help her own son but sometimes advice is best heard from a stranger as well as one of the same sex. Being one of the more intelligent people on our planet and has a career as a clinical psychologist doesn't hurt either. In any case, I didn't sense victimhood in that post as much as appreciation to have been assisted during a tough time. Without any details it's huge stretch to assume she does not have the ability to be accountable.
@Gary Sarela what's the cost to implement a 100% switch? Jobs lost vs created? What will be done with things like solar panels as they reach the end of their lifespan and can not be used anymore? They can't be recycled easily, what affect would this have on the environment? Does the switch encompass nuclear energy? What percentage of each technology would be required to make a full switch? Would all areas have affordable energy? How many people would be affected as we transition?
Jordan. I just want to tell you that I see you and the effort that you have been putting into your podcast. The way that you have conversations with those you have invited to speak with has improved significantly. It's really refreshing to see someone of great stature also have room for growth.
👉"You must have Teeth" most powerful statement that Jordan said. The meaning behind it is the absolute truth and has helped me in my life soooo very much! Thank you, Dr Peterson ☺️
It's great to see you fully back dr. Peterson. A most interesting podcast, and well done by both of you. I am learning a lot in these discussions and I'm amazed at what I can access through these high quality podcasts. Thank you again.
I dumped over 500 magazines (about 200 pounds of porn) that I inherited from a family member. Was one of the best decisions of my life. A clear conscience is the SOFTEST PILLOW. Now a goodly woman knows she can trust me more and the best part is that I have built more confidence within myself! This is every man's battle!
My first book “Light” by Timothy Seckinger is available now on Amazon. Pieces I wrote when I was in a dark depressing place in life. Words that rekindled my souls flame and guided out of the dark abyss that is grief. I hope that someone is touched by my words and the same help that I found in writing them are placed upon your heart. Thanks. ❤️
I was so so blessed to have gotten to meet you and talk to you and I cannot express my gratitude for the encouragement you gave me in the brief time I got to talk to you. Thank you for being the genuine person that you are ❤
@Anna Rocha you should have listened to globalman Anna. But you didn't. I can assure you millions of men have decided to never have children and will live very happy lives in doing so.
@The Man With No Name I don't know that I could agree with you less. I would be truly surprised to find out if - at the end of your life - you could honestly say you found fulfilment in those things. But people are different. Perhaps you could.
I am so inspired by comments here. If so many people can re-orient and change the life, there must be hope for me as well. I have discovered the topic of narcissism just last year figuring out I have been living through it all my life, and so many things started to make sense finally. But it was devastating. I work on myself and hope to start thriving instead of surviving one day.
I used to watch the fatalities on KZclip for mortal combat games. I watch all 40 or however many there were on the newest one at that time, one after another. Personally I'm somebody who gets squeamish and watching the video actually would leave me shaken by the end. My personal motivation to watch this was to toughen myself up. I understand how violence lingers under the surface of people and I don't ever want to put in a compromising situation where I have to defend myself or my family and not be able to do what needs to be done. I joined the military after, in the further pursuit to toughen up and saw much worse. To be clear I am not a combat vet but have seen combat videos from some of the people who thought it'd be a good idea to record. I don't feel pleasure in watching suffering but I am conscious that it's life. And terrible things happen every single day. I don't need to explain myself but I do think that there are more sides to the story around the draw to violence. I believe it to probably be a defense mechanism that most people are not conscious of. The least prepared one in the room in an emergency is the one who doesn't make it home. *Update* This ended up getting covered.
The same with me. I am vulnerable and i know it. Defending yourself is key. Not only physical, but tactical using your brain, intuition and gut feeling combined with creativity and thinking out of the box. Danger comes in many ways and forms. That is life. Our entire history on this planet is about survival in all forms. But i hate to fight and to hurt others physically and all other ways. I do not like to watch aggressive and violent videos, but i do. Sports like boxing i will never pay for it to watch. I do not like to see people punching eachother. Could not been married with a proffessional boxer or military man, who likes his profession, just to kill or order people around. Games where aggression is key is not my thing. Also, it is not teaching you enough, sitting in your comfortable safe room right? Anyway. But people with the dark triad are with everyone, including their own family, wife, husband, children, pets cruel, cold, dangerous. Even in the little things. You never will feel safe and loved. They just hurt and destroy everyone, including their loved ones, who treat the dark personalities right and with love. They are just very toxic. Your gut feeling and intuition tells you to back of. No animal will be in good hands with this individuals. They destroy you, your life, their life, others life, with no exception. They do not care. Only in for them only with no regards for the safty and wellbeing for anyone. Only maybe to gain again for themselves.
❤️ you both. Thank you. I don't understand sadism more than anything. I think we should be able to create reliable psychological tests for NPD, machiavellianism and sadism to ensure these people don't EVER get jobs where they can hurt others! For example, the medical field, medical research, politics, police, the military and factory farms (which shouldn't exist anyway)!!! I'm a Healthcare professional who was raised by a mother with NPD and married 3 men with this disorder. I wish I could find psychiatric professionals whom I could work with on this. Any ideas 💡???
Start with a lady by the name of Kim Saeed. She has a lot of good information on healing from narracist abuse. It teaches you the red flags and how to deal with the gaslighting in a effective way that is best for you. I wish you healing and happiness in your journey. Also, if you feel they are being unkind, it is ok to say no. No, you do not get to treat me this way. It is very empowering when you can set healthy boundaries. Saying no is ok. Much love ❤️ namaste you many blessings to you 🙏 ❤️ 💛
1:05:05 This takes me back to track and field day in the fourth grade. Specifically, the standing broad jump. My best friend, where as I was often the youngest in a given classroom, he would be the oldest, bigger, stronger than I, and able to shove me away like a fly. We were grouped in the same class, and it was understandable that he was able to jump farther than I. We both qualified for the tri-county meet. Where he feil short was not being able to refrain from shoving his win in my face for the rest of the day. That planted seeds of determination, that grew into me training myself daily until well after the sun went down, based on the very helpful coverage of the standing broad jump Olympic event, which I had been fascinated by. To slow things down in practice, like a martial art, the ideal movement, memorized. I practiced on a walkway made of patio stones, to make it easy to measure progress, and to make any mistake a painful lesson. The tri county meet arrived, I was bloody nervous, the desire to do it right was burning bright. Again, I was one of the smaller competitors, and so it began. The conclusion, myself having set a new record in addition to winning the event, revealed that my friend did not know how to lose well, when I told him it was his rubbing my loss in the first event in my face relentlessly for the rest of that day that fueled everything I did after that, that his attempt to crush me actually enhanced my ability to focus, to achieve victory over him, that he fueled his own defeat. This was my takeaway from the fourth grade.
@Cup Cake The success and determination is what counts ... Help others focus on the good 😉 Hopefully maturity has taught many of us that letting others have free rent in our heads isn't the best idea!
Old female here; when I was young, trying to sort some problem out by using the telephone, I would express my frustration in a way I would NEVER behave face to face. I was probably just coming into adulthood then. This happened more than twice before I had the insight that I was treating REAL people unhumanely. I did proceed on a rather circuitous route to maturity...still working on it! 😉
Yeah, my mother is a sadistic narcissist with psychopathic tendencies. She is fascinating to study, but I can't have her in my life. I used to be waaaay too empathetic and I'd get tricked by narcissists pretending to be victims. Now I refuse to feel compassion for people who lack it and people who gaslight. Empathy can put you in dangerous situations. I am lucky to be alive.
I've been coming to similar realizations about mine. She told me when I was a kid that she hadn't wanted to have any kids, she never liked me. I'm an only child and I just kept trying to win her over and anytime it looked like I was making progress she would just turn on me for some petty little bullshit and it broke my heart every time. If I came to her in a good mood and wanting to talk it would often get me a stiff slap in the mouth. Literally. Then when I was sad because nobody loved me she'd say what's wrong? Then I'd try to tell her how I felt and before I knew it I was being roughed up again, slapped in the face and verbally abused. Finally when I got big enough to defend myself the physical abuse stopped and the mental abuse went to a whole new level of evil. This whole time I thought she was a Saint. My dad was an alcoholic and had mental health issues so she kicked him out when I was 4, her mother had committed suicide while she was pregnant with me so I made excuses in my little head for her not wanting to do anything but go to work and come home and sleep and be left alone by me. We never had food in the house , she would work 12 hours and come home and eat a piece of loafbread with ketchup and that would be it for the day. So I made friends around the trailer park we lived in and my friend's parents would feed me. She was totally against drugs and alcohol and she didn't date. I took all this to be evidence that she was doing all she could to "support me and keep a roof over our heads" but now I know she just hated people. She didn't give a damn about taking care of me and she resented me for being born and she punished me for it everyday and still does. I'm 41 and I'm just dealing with all the trauma she inflicted on me over the years and it's amazing to see the real truth and realize how sick I've been my whole life trying to avoid seeing it. I've been trying to make up for being such a burden on her all these years and she has punished me for being dependent but every time I started getting things together and trying to establish myself in the world she has sabotaged me to keep me from leaving. We've been codependent this whole time. When I moved out last time I finally saw the fear it caused her and it was a revelation to realize that all this time she had been fooling me into feeling like she never wanted me around, just so I would keep trying to make up for being born, just so she could have me around to blame her anger and antisocial ways on me and the mental health issues I've struggled with. It's a sick game but I'm making progress finally.
I don't think you understand the correct meaning of the word empathy. It means simply to understand.. It is not in en way shape or form sympathy you can understand why somebody does something without feeling sorry for them
@Samantha Sorry to hear of your troubles. Itll get better I promise. When I was a kid Idk why but I always imagined myself falling for a Samantha. Arrre you her? Haha that's a reach I know! Seriously tho, shit can only fall downward. So scrape whatever shit that's in your way to the side and stay positive. Youve got climbing to do! Good luck
I can totally relate to your brief description of yourself and of your mother. A few yrs ago, I myself could not refer to my mother as such so i started calling her 'the beast who bore me'. Which in hindsight came abt because of my need to be able to speak abt her to my now ex-spouse whilst in the company of our youngest child who at the time was a very impressionable 5yr old budding feminist daughter. I too am attracted to the wounded lambs and just realized a few months ago that I am beginning to be able to detect the subtle stench of gaslighting and manipulations of a vic.narc. I was seeing sexually. And bro it's much more than just luck that we are still alive. We have fought off the claws of these monsters successfully, sought refuge and survived their attempts at our destruction. That,to me bro, is a skill.
I have been working at a juvenile detention facility as a nurse for 10 years. The development of personality is very interesting. I have met a few youth that are probably future serial killers. What is surprising is the number of sex offenders.
@Jay Adjudicated means convicted. So all youth are in their court process still. Most youth are going to go home to do a community program or sent to a residential program. It's the major crimes that go youth corrections. We are involved in helping get community support systems going and working the county state probation officers.
I sat through this entire video and worked hard to understand words and ideas that are not a part of my world and I wished I could have understood the concepts better. I know this kind of information would be so valuable for people who do not have college degrees and extensive vocabularies. Jordan, would you ever consider writing books on psychology for the common man?
It would have been interesting to see an analysis of Paulhus’s own personal desire to to study the dark triad or dark personality traits as opposed to other less sensational metrics
Mr. Peterson I’ve followed your lectures through the past 7 years, I’ve been through a number of your childhood trauma models, six years ago I got sober from alcohol addiction and substance abuse, I’ve separated from my friends and family entirely, currently living in a monestary as a monk. On a hardcore carnivore diet. However all the reasons I was lead so far away from proper health choices still exist in the psyche and now I’m without community so I’ve recently heard the term internal family systems but I’m still not waking up feeling recovered still the opposite. Lots of arthritis on the daily, any for my individual situation?
Thank you Jordan Peterson, from Montreal,Qc. Recently you helped my husband and I reconnect. He works a lot and I'm a homemaker and business woman (painter, fine artist) We both resonate with your advice to make physical and mental efforts to keep challenging ourselves to be decent, humble human beings, loving human beings to one another. I've lost a lot during this coup (government lockdowns) so I'm climbing back up. I let go of my career in policing due to mandates and unconstitutional actions but, on the contrary, this suffering and loss has also brought on a new sense of responsibility within my community and more importantly: within the home front for my 2 boys. I'm on my journey at reconnecting with God and pursuing a deeper understanding of the Bible. :)
Charlene, appreciate your post. I would like to recommend Torah Club through First Fruits of Zion. A Bible study from Israel by Messianic Jews. Fascinating.
I felt compelled to take the time to express my sorrow at the loss of your career you've surely worked hard to attain. But I also felt compelled to take the time to say thank you. To praise your decision, hard may it have been, because persons such as yourself remind me that I am not alone in my disgust, in my questioning and rejection of the current social "flavor", if you will. So thank you. Thank you for your resilience. Thank you for the example in integrity. But mostly, thank you for your humanity, which is sorely lacking at this time. We see you
This was so fascinating and life-changing to hear. I remember my teenage years, and now have to put that past to work remembering how to react. This was a great explanation of the "WHY?".
Saw you in London ON on Jan 31. So glad I did, you were engaging g, articulate and charismatic. Loved watching your thought process on full display and thank you for taking your audience along for the ride. I really hope you tour for your upcoming book as well :) Thank you for the work you do Dr. Peterson.
I have seen/experienced far more than my fair share of humanity's darkest parts, including being a slave to an extremely abusive narcissist for nearly 14 years. Now that I'm trying to deal with my husband's cheating and wanting a divorce. He says he doesn't want to try marriage counseling because it didn't work for his parents and has no desire to stay with me and the kids. I see everything that he's doing for HER that I have been asking him to do for me/us. It crushes me. I am so filled with rage right now it hurts to breathe and it's SO hard not to show it in frontof the children. My heat has been trampled to the point that I am done trying
I'm 59 and view myself as fairly intelligent and fairly smart but it took me twice listening to this video to comprehend exactly what they were describing. Hopefully one day I will be on their level of understanding of the human mind. God bless them both for their God given gift. 🙏
Thanks Dr Peterson. This is such an important topic, especially for men. Just because something is easy, perhaps especially when it is easy it usually coming with a great cost. One could even argue that pornography can have a direct link to the sexless marriages and relationships we see these days. It is so crazy the times we are in.
@Gary Michael Flanagan i think of porn use as a side effect or cope rather than an end which would make the cause the worst threat. what is your perspective?
@Artsy you are right. I had a friend who had ED and I think a lot of it had to do with how he was never satisfied. He ended up getting divorced because he cheated on his wife. Very sad. We aren’t friends anymore as of about 7 years ago. We were only friends when we went out on the town, not someone I would consider a close friend. But yes I think internet porn is probably one of the worst threats to young men. It makes them lazy and unsatisfied
The violent aspect upon the minds of the youth is causing the biggest harm. Old school stuff was wholesome compared to what is available today. The young consuming those visuals is creating a very disturbing image of what they think intimacy should look like. It’s horrific the repercussions that’s already playing out.
Your guest got off to slow start, but as I relaxed into listening I was able to stay with his delivery. With mindfulness and shadow training it’s possible to catch one’s own pathological tendencies. I’m hopeful for humanities elders setting the field tone. May we live long and hold the reins. Gingivitis is striking people younger and younger related to inflammatory lifestyles.
This was a fascinating topic of discussion, thanks for clarifying your position and providing sources/evidence from the horses mouth on some of topics you discuss. It's hard for people to call you out when you are functioning in the realm of science and evidence based research rather than topics of ideological specifics. Cheers thanks for making the world more wise and informed place!
I think that his most recent difficulties have more to do with alleged unprofessional behavior than it does criticism of the government per se, doesn't it? I mean, "Poor people eat too much food" or "climate doesn't exist" aren't direct critiques of any government, are they? I lost interest in what he is saying when I checked out his assertion that "lack of serotonin is the cause of depression"; it turns out there is no scientific basis for that whatsoever. Then I looked into him further only to discover his claims, "I am an evolutionary biologist," and "I am a neuroscientist" to both be false: he's always only had a doctorate in cognitive psychology. I've always intensely disliked and mistrusted paucity of intellectual integrity... (..."There is a false saying: 'How can someone who cannot save himself save others?' Supposing I have the key to your chains, why should your lock and my lock be the same?" ~ Friedrich Nietzsche)
JP is spot on - I have been reading Christine Feehan since high school. Over a decade...It is vampire-ish romance, albeit the men in those novels cherish and treasure their lifemates. They uphold honor and dignity, and protect their own. They spend hundreds of years searching for her...they are not some 'playboy' with options. But its been difficult to find a man with just enough capacity to be considered threatening, but also have enough empathy...They're either too much of a golden retriever and boring or they're a douche canoe. I'd be interested in a study done on Twitch girls...They believe their time and attention to be of such high value that people have to pay money for them to look their way. I saw one woman who would roulette "date" people that donated and 'deem them worthy of boring' and boot them. Incredibly narcissistic
You could say the same of any twitch streamer regardless of gender. They are all selling themselves and think their time is worthy of payment. If men are willing to pay they are right.
You're the reason good men are alone. The fact women use derogatory terms for these kind of men is terrible. This should be a sign for you to reflect on what you want in a man. But women finding anything less than a "Chad" boring has become all too common. And only shows a flaw in modern females preferences.
I fully respect Jordan Peterson and all he does ❤ he’s a real human being, true to himself and true to the real Truth and Reality. Justice for the Petersons 💯🙌🏻
@BubbleOnPlumb close. The blue side represents heaven and the underneath is a blue cloud like pattern. The red represents hell and the inside is red flames. Haha. He was speaking about his suits on another video and says he has about 9 fancy luxury made suits, some were sent in PR to him others he purchased. One has various peoples’ face including Joe Rogen and Russell Brand among others.
@Pretty 🌙Brown🤎 Eyes Well I do have to admit that I am not up on all of the nuances of Dr. Peterson's wardrobe. I will take a wild guess though about the meaning of this particular color scheme - The red is on the wearer's right side and the blue is on the wearer's left side. In the USA I suppose that would signify the red state/blue state divide in our political and social temperament. In my view Dr. Peterson actually falls somewhere in the middle as he has expressed both conservative and classically liberal views. He also has absolutely no use for the far right or the far left as far as I can tell so that again would place him somewhere in the center. So how did I do> Am I even close with my interpretation of the esoteric meaning of the suit?
@BubbleOnPlumb the suit is extraordinary! It is awesome. Do you know what the two colours represent? He has tons of special suits that have special meaning.
@young waif There are people/higher-ups that are trying to shut out Jordan Peterson and silence his words of wisdom and truth, as well as destroy his career. He’s done nothing wrong, yet they treat him as though he’s spreading lies and whatnot. He’s a Great man and it’s both sad and ridiculous that anyone would want this man’s words to be known as ‘false.’ He deserves to be heard. He’s a brilliant intellectual and an amazing teacher, that only speaks the Truth to in depth. In my opinion, He deserves the Upmost respect.
Jordan, you taught me how to finish growing up. It was physically quite intense in the beginning and drawing from your words and those of other stoic philosophers I not only made it but excelled in the adversity.
I think a clear line should be drawn between sadism and desire to "put one off their pedestal" or desire for retribution. For example, if one person were to endure a long lasting series of bullying from another person and one day all that built up rage explodes in a burst of disproportionate violence, which the first person would undoubtedly enjoy momentarily, should be different from a person inflicting pain upon another person simply because they can do little to defend themselves.
The point about classical virtues (such as empathy or intelligence or patience) being inherently virtuous is really hitting home for me. Especially the part about inviting strangers into your home. Empathy is not in and of itself a virtue. On its own, it will not improve the world. It needs to be tempered with something else… perhaps courage and distrust? I don’t know. Just spitballing here. Still learning.
Empathy is not a virtue per se, but without it, there is no virtue, it is focal to human society, culture and order-what I would call a coalition, a collective of people. In a hyper individualist world it is no wonder that we're seeing people lack empathetic traits, something at the very core of a collective society
One. Must only go to see him speak to understand just how broad Jordan’s appeal is. I have had the pleasure several times. At each I met people of different ages, genders, ethnicities and personality. Seeing a crowd fill a huge venue and LISTEN to a HIGH LEVEL lecture for more than a n hour while hanging on every word is amazing. Jordan makes you stretch your mind and emotions the same way Thomas Sowell does. And you come away the better for it.
I know 3 people that throughout my life I have marveled at their extreme callus and wondered what root traits or disorders caused it. This video clarified the differences very well. I worked directly for the psychopath and watched how effective his methods were at destroying people and achieving his goals. My competence made him look good so we had no issues but I was always aware that a bad day was all it would take for me to come into his focused wrath. I would tell people that mistook his smile for friendship that he had no friends but they would not believe me until it was to late. Later when I no longer could lose my job at his command, he said something about us getting along, and I told him it was because I always understood we were not friends and I was expendable every day he laughed and smiled.
@Maria Michael good question, he was a VP and I had a group that did special projects for him, my men never had to deal with him, I did it. Other crews in the company would tell what he did. Most of his focus was on elimination of competition in upper management. Later I was promoted and the men that worked under me delt with me not him. Years later I still have a good relationship with the men I worked with even though I am in a different industry now.
I have known a few over the years too, worked for one, dated one, they are both fascinating and terrifying, albeit when I sniff them out these days I usually run 🏃🏼😆
My kids (and since I’ve asked them, my friends) have told me I’m a high-functioning psychopath. I don’t like the idea, and I’m not completely convinced they’re correct, but I see where they’re coming from. I’m wickedly aware of what others are thinking and feeling, I know how to say and do things that make people think I’m a good person. I have feelings, sometimes very deep and profound feelings; feelings, however, never have me. I can make hard choices without my feelings getting in the way. I mostly get what I want out of life. But what I want out of life is to be a good father to my kids, a good husband to my wife, a good friend to my friends, a “good person” in general. Seems to me this is very normal, maybe I’m fooling myself. Not sure what the difference is between a good person and a person who acts like one.
There's no such thing as a good person. We are all sinfull, all flawed. She just attemp to be good in ways that we think make sense. However I think the true way to attempt to be good would be to follow the Bibles Teachings.
I think a key cause of these traits is one perceives themselves as weak. Those dark triad traits seem like the ways people react to feeling weak or respond to fear or confronted by the unknown. One way or psychopathy is by becoming something scary. We know psychos tend to do dangerous or tough things because doing them makes you respected or feared and not to be messed with. Machiavellians fear manipulation so they manipulate others before it happens to them. They seek to hold power over someone Narcissists tend to try to look as harmless as possible which explains why image is so important to them. The thing in common though is that they are all scared and when someone or something reacts somewhat predictably they or we in this matter are happy. For example, in a hockey game if a player gets shoved and the other player reacts, they view the guy who fought back as the good guy. Why? People resonate with the guy that fought back. In my experience, it is people who feel they are being taken advantage or harmed by someone else that tend to enjoy seeing or potentially causing those who hurt them suffering and they see that in the other player who hits back which is why they cheer, there comes sadism. Some of these people give up and hope to make as much peace with it as possible, working to understand it and give it what it wants, eg the law abiding citizen. It tends to require empathy. These are the people we believe to be the least likely to harm someone and co exist with and also the most easily taken advantage of and manipulated causing resentment. A good human being, in my opinion, is like the latter but being capable of understanding and acting like a psycho, narcissist or Machiavellian too makes someone complete or real human being.
I regret all the time not continuing my goal of obtaining a PhD in psychology and focusing on personality. I’ve always asked since a kid, Why do people do what they do?
My last gf. Who I still love very deeply is a narcissist at the least. Her mother, father, brothers, anyone she can hurt she will. Her friends are a different story. It's very interesting and I just want to learn more about it. Deep down I feel truly sorry for her. She comes from a good family as do I.
What an absolute role model you are sir. A small YoutTube comment could never express my gratitude, not only have you bettered the life of every single person I now interface with, you helped to prevent the awful reality that could have been (and was) my life. I resonate so strongly with both yourself and Dr Phaulhus across this entire discussion - words cannot explain. The burden of putting forward your compassion, empathy, generosity, and vulnerability is no short of a miracle; I hope the foundation I create for myself will help me to do the same. Thank. You.
It's a solid foundation when you embrace your shortcomings substituting these with the 6th element of humility and honesty. I see and wish you continued success! God bless you 🙏🏻
Professor Peterson, I follow your debates, dialogues and it is incredibly satisfying seeing a very intelligent man who knows how to debate, knows logic and logical fallacies, knows how to be calm under extreme pressure, knows how to evade traps, knows how to listen carefully the person which debates... I am living in one very small country in Europe, I studied philosophy and logic, and I had subjects like formal logic, methodology, psychology, rhetorics, so I think I can spot when I see an extremely intelligent person who has willpower to hold on to his principles and is dismantling opponents with ease without glowing and having intellectual hubris. I follow you, and I sure am learning a lot from you. Thank you for all that you do, and, of course, I am your new subscriber. Sorry for the mistakes in my comment, English is far from being my first language.
Sometimes, it's hard for me to believe how much I enjoy these interviews by Jordan Peterson. When I browse some of the contents on his channel's, I sometimes notice the the videos run for an hour or more. I say to myself "that's more time than I'd like to sit and listen right now." Almost always, I find myself listening all the way through the video, or sometimes listen in parts and come back to finish. Discussions on topics that I have interest in help, but Dr. Peterson's always (at least in my own opinion) seems to keep in his mind a consciousness of the types listeners that may be digesting the content of the discussions. I don't believe he does this for the sake of reaching a broader audience. I do believe he is trying not to lose anyone by presenting complex ideas. He seems to teach as he talks so that anyone can understand (or at least begin to) the ideas behind the point he is making. That may mean a longer discussion and a longer video, but I genuinely appreciate it. Thank you.
I so wish I could attend one of your sessions and may God allow me, even perhaps speak to you directly. I just want to say thank you for your service to humankind, I also want to remind to if I may be so bold, some people are just a little slow and behind so don't get too upset when some of them don't get the message when you speak sensibly. I value your effort to steer humanity in the right direction so much. It has seriously been such a long time that we had someone as sensible and I fear that should you no longer be there, we will suffer for a looooong period after before we will be gifted by another brilliant mind like yours. Godspeed and please know that I love and appreciate you.
My biggest question is if there has been any significant proof in balancing these traits? Specifically can the Darker personalities of which act on compulsivity,sexual pleasure , ever really find that empathy and true understanding in how they hurt people they love? Because that compulsivity is one that's almost impossible to tame.
I have seen high empathy in teachers of young children. Often it is a necessary and helpful trait when working with little ones. I have seen that high empathy in the teachers can lead to giving children freedom they are not well prepared to handle and can set the children up for failure in behaviour and social growth. These teachers sometimes struggle with setting reasonable boundaries.
Empathy is the ability to feel someones pain/emotion/needs, it might seem like it but it's obvious that this teacher didn't exactly have empathy for the student as she didn't provide them the necessaries to grow, there is never too much empathy, that's something you can never overdo, the problem is people failing to detect it when its there and when its not, creating echoes of misinterpretation
That’s interesting. I’m a piano teacher and teach group lessons. I also work with kids in other settings- leading plays and teaching small groups. I definitely am not agreeable and kind of aggressive but it is what the kids need and keeps big groups in line.
I appreciate how you are giving a wider platform to highly-educated scientists, philosophers, and theorists. And most of all: how you LISTEN and give people room to discuss, explain, and/or respond... and give back just as much as you receive intellectually and conversationally.
Dr. Peterson, You appear to me to be an authentic, genuine, and emotionally empathetic person with a love for honesty, while accepting of the perfectly imperfect human state. You are a voice of reason in a world of often madness. Please don’t ever toss your ideals for manmade idols. This planet absolutely needs healing through learning, tolerance and understanding at a time so many of us are afraid to even speak.
After 17 years of smoking its been 3 months now without smoking a cigarette, i started wanting more from life, im on my way to my new career, it was a hard road to take but i never felt so good in life, thank you JP
I've been thinking about the question "What positive effect can psychopathy have for our species"? There was a good definition of the common trait for "the dark side" or psychopathy in the dialogue: lack of empathy, lack of ability to perceive the feelings of others and include them in "in the equation" when one makes decisions. I have two examples of positive side of psychopathy: Elon Musk and Linus Torvalds. Both of them don't really give a sh*t about other people's feelings. They have a strong vision and do everything to achieve it. Both men have a tremendous impact on the development of our society. Without their "dark side" this would not be possible.
Interesting chat. What struck me was the theoretical approach to all this. In the past, ethics/ morality was understood as more of a practical study grounded in discussions of virtue and vice [in the self-determining subject]. Theoretical explanations, in contrast, look to find some objective/ natural cause for the behavior.
Sadism used to be a frequently used concept but then it "disappeared". Now it is coming back. Sadistic personality disorder was considered by the DSM but was dropped. Great discussion!
@gg_rider sadism is the sensational, psychological pleasure of harm, in these tribes people were 'sacrificing' for (what they believed/was their reality) certain things and people to gods and deities which would protect their ingroup, so essentially were doing the opposite
I had the thought that the concept of "sadistic" exists in our relatively peaceful culture. Other cultures, in the present, and especially in the past, what we consider abnormal sadism was often the norm. African tribal chiefs (some) according to Christian missionaries, not only captured, kept, and sold slaves, slaves were used in human sacrifice rituals. Europeans surely did much of the same at some times, with both violence by leaders and mob violence. I just learned about Aluu Four.
I think the sadism/psychotic correlation is very flawed, because sometimes some people might just be holding a grudge on one or a few people that have hurt them REALLY badly. I think there’s a strong link between childhood ACE score and being “crazy.” I wonder if there’s also a strong correlation between childhood ACE and the dark tetrad scores.
Un saluto da parte del cav Claudio lo cascio dalla stupenda Puglia. La terra e la nostra casa, il futuro sono i nostri figli, l universo e la nostra via.
From Belgium, a deeply sincere thank you (what words to use) for ALL you give - do - teach - are, dr Peterson, you change many lives, lots of respect to you and your family
That suit at beginning of video is certainly something different. Can't say I would wear it myself but I still maintain respect and appreciation for this man. I'm autistic and deeply anxious and though I can't say I'm winning at anything, he gives me hope that it can't always be this way. I'm hopeful that my soul is going to somehow carry on and maybe in another life I'll be more successful. That doesn't mean I am totally giving up on my life as it is, and it would be foolish to assume that anything happens after death of this life. But on the same token I always say to myself... isn't time a man made construction? What even is time? And if I came to being once in a universe that cannot maybe exist in any one time, perhaps rebirth can really be inevitable? But then what could that mean? Life is strange in and of itself but I choose to believe if we are here once, why not again? Death is scary but also immensely intriguing. Everything on earth dies and seems to rebirth. Trees for example do it for centuries. Alive and vibrant during summer but dead as nails in winter. It's almost as if it's some sort of sign about what nature really may be about. And not necessarily that we are even alive on the same planet or even same universe. IF time is not based on true reality, I'd say it be likely death would be an immense deep sleep - one in which of course previous experience and life would be totally gone. And we are born wholly empty. Scientists might be sure that a big bang happened but are they sure how it happened, why.. I don't think so and I don't think we can ever likely know or understand it. How can something happen out of nothing? And if nothing exists, then nothing is still something if it can end up producing something else.
Personally, with the subject of violence, I enjoy it very much, even horror movies, I feel a level of joy, or excitement in it, sometimes I find it comical, but if I ever watch something that is real, I view it very differently, I can't even look at it for long, it hurts me heart, and makes me physically sick, it emotionally effects me to tears most of the time, when it's fake it doesn't give me that feeling, I see it completely as entertainment, wich mostly has story's ending in the antagonist being beaten, or defeated, and the potential victim against all odds surviving and overcoming. However some films can be too realistic when showing deaths, that also can disturb me, Movies, cartoons, horror, blood and guts stuff doesn't bother me partially cause I know it's fake, but it's so over the top, I can't take it seriously enough to feel it's psychology negative, it's no different than a books descriptions of the same things. Despite that I really cannot understand why, or how anyone can watch somebody being beaten, killed, or suffering. Violence in sports, or hand to hand combat is not the same, they know what there getting into, there not being forced to be in those positions, they train to do those things, not everyone who watches the sport, fight whatever, watch to see suffering, they watch to see a real contest, between talented trained individual's competing. It's human nature, there's a difference between watching people competing, and watching/enjoying, pain and suffering. We definitely need to have talks with our youth about separating reality, with entertainment, there's to many people profiting from blurring those lines as much as possible.
Sadism isn't about anger, it's about coldness, lack of emotion. It's in the territory of hatred. Everyone has this emotion and when it's not acted out, it just feels cold, harsh, and pointed. The emotion of hatred arises particularly during abuse of power, and if acted out against you either emotionally, behaviorally or physically, you are the more helpless one. Feeling helpless and being hurt is very difficult to tolerate. Coldness/ hatred is the personality's best imitation of power. Even if you are in the powerless position being hurt, hatred will arise in you to temove any other emotion that might be arising, like hurt or sadness. People who act out the emotion of coldness/ hatred via sadism get the chance to be the more powerful one that's hurting another. This is where the enjoyment comes - they are turning the tables and get to be the powerful one, and not the powerless one being hurt. These people usually have been abused themselves sometimes in the past and are acting out the other role.
Fascinating to see Dr. Peterson get into the weeds on his principal subject matter. Though I will say that almost 2 hours of discussing personality with someone who apparently completely lacks one did necessitate consuming it in small bites over a few days. This just clearly illustrates how lucky we all are to have a dynamic man like Jordan shaking up the world by bringing science to the analysis of our social ills. Thank you sr.
Dear Mr. Jordan Peterson, Sir. Congratulations on such a great work, you've done. And this your channel is a treasure for humanity. God bless you! We all are with you and support your work and great legacy for the whole world. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍❤️
I feel that if we can teach our young children to feel and not fear their emotions. That would change the world. Currently the trend is to change all outside factors so they don't have to feel a bad emotion.
I feel some of the excitement about violence in sports is the beauty in two competitors physically trying to hurt each other and then are able to shake hands after. The ufc fighters who disrespect their opponent after the fight typically end up as a villain amongst everyone. You will notice the negative feelings whenever a ufc fighter is taking serious damage and is essentially getting beat up at that point, even some of the fighters inflicting the damage want it to stop. Or will try to avoid breaking the bone when submitting someone, because they are trying to win a competition, not injure someone. They just understand the competition they are participating in has a high injury risk. The beauty is seeing two competitors digging and finding more strength and determination than maybe they thought was possible
I have researched this in my industry, the study of dark triads is what appeals to me. My industry is Oil and gas. This industry is Full of people with Dark Triad personalities. it's crazy. I use this to identify people who i need to watch out for.
That problem of bringing in good people and building a great team, only to be destroyed by one or two bad apples is persistent in all social groups. Classrooms, Churches, HOA's, PTA's, political groups and work teams. The times we think back to the "good old days, when things were great", are usually times when there were no bad apples! Everyone pulled their weight and worked as a strong team - Things/ work was effortless and productive. I can look back and see this, and recognize when it failed. When a bad apple was introduced, it all went sour and never recovered. Sometimes it was an entry level worker, sometimes a manager... Didn't seem to matter.
@KZclip TruthLife This still comes down to taking on responsibility. People get a lot of value out of their lives by becoming responsible for raising good kids, being a good spouse, protecting their communities, giving to charity, etc. The culture these days seems to be a lot of demanding other people make the world a better place, but when it matters, being apathetic to what goes on in the world.
@Chris I think any aware and emphatic person would bring awareness to hungry kids, people who freeze in their home, elderly who gets bad threatment, the government who wants to control you like a tool etc etc...
The world doesn't have to be crumbling. You can enjoy life without the things going on having an impact on you. The issue is what you're placing your awareness on.
Jordan, thank you. I cleaned up my house, and kept it clean, and slowed my alcohol down to almost nothing. Got my kids signed up for sports. Got a Job that i enjoy and make good money. Been on time. Life is good man. Its also a stuggle but im the most happy ive ever been as an adult. Really putting my life together.
It's comments like this that make it all worthwhile, I'd imagine.
@Beneficent Nature doesn't the check mark mean it's him?
@Steven Sextonsounds like you're on the meds lol
@Taylor Brown y+es="and it is"...
I met Dr Peterson on the street in Louisville before one of his speaking events. I was starstruck and stuttering and barely able to put a sentence together but my god, I was blown away with how nice and completely attentive he was to me in those brief moments. The attention he paid to me was like I was the most important person on earth just for a couple minutes. A wonderful human being.
Maybe the dark side is just plain dark and not given much if at all to the light. Maybe study what makes us whole.
He was in Louisville KY? Oh man...i.missed him.
I'm so envious 😭 I'd love to meet him one day.
11:20 - Machiavellian
11:52 - Narcissists
12:10 - Psychopaths
13:08 - Sadism
14:00 - Psychopaths. Impulsivity
15:25 - Sadism. Hockey fights
21:20 - Anger
27:50 - Narcissists
29:50 - Jordan being agreeable
31:50 - Questioning absolute empathy
33:55 - A Billion Wicked Thoughts
35:40 - Women picking men.
44:25 - Sadism and Trolling
50:00 - Online life vs Real life
@Jeffery JEFFERYDALE Burgess don't cry buddy. Spirits are tough. I fell off my bicycle every day from age 5 to age 11 and I'm ok now.
There all the same a fallen sprit nature 😢
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I also picked this up
Addendum :
1994 - mortal combat
2015 - game of thrones
My mother is a sadist. Throughout my life, from childhood into today, my mother has taken pleasure in psychologically tormenting me in multiple ways; but, no one believes me. People mistakenly assume all mothers are caring and nurturing toward their children.
@frankespinoza9 I'm so sorry you've had to experience this.😪
i feel you on that .My mom.has been treating me like shit forever. shes never liked my girlfriends my jobs. Ive tried for years to have a better relationships boy she loves my sisters . My perfect older sisters w a perfect life husband career choices etc im.already 46 at this point. its pointless
That is true.
You can not elect your mother and father. Or family.
In nature not all animals will treat their pups good either. Some are not ok with their kids. There are reasons for that. But still, it is horrible sad.
Humans are not different.
We all are animals.
Even if we think we are not.
There are so much reasons and knowing the reasons can bring enlightment and be aware...
We need to protect us from people, family or not, so we do not get damaged in life.
We need to avoid such people.
It is heartbreaking that your mother/father induce so much trauma and suffering.
Please, protect yourself and follow your intuition.
@Steins Gate nah not a sadist, just a troll and wannabe incel
@Aniquin Stark Wowza! I'm sorry you have to deal with that type of behavior from your grandmother.
This summer I quit my drug addiction , I’d like to say thank you & god bless you Jordan. Your content encouraged me to get thru the fentanyl withdrawals & to be strong. I’m still a monster but it’s mostly tamed (not in all areas but I’m working on it). Missed you when you came to San Jose ,Ca maybe next time
@Mandy 0827 You can't see the illogical loop you've just made.
@Good Yeoman One never overcomes addiction. They just find the mental strength to abstain from the addictive behavior. One finds the desire and mental fortitude to suffer through the agony the agony the brain goes until new neural pathways are created .There's a difference between a mental addiction and a physical dependence as well. Especially with opiates, the physical dependence is almost as hard to overcome than the mental part. Addiction absolutely exists as it's evident in the neural pathways created when one uses drugs. Some people are more susceptible than others because of genetics & it's also hereditary.. which is why one person will become addicted to drugs when using socially & another will have no issue. Neural pathways, comprised of neurons connected by dendrites, are created in the brain based on our habits and behaviors. The number of dendrites increases with the frequency a behavior is performed. It's quite interesting actually. So there really is no stance such as 'if addiction is real' to come from, because it is certainly a fact that addiction exists.
If "addiction" exists, then how were you able to overcome it?
Keep up the good work.
Keep up the positive forward momentum! 🤘😎
I don’t drink. I don’t smoke anything. I have a solid relationship and a good career that I truly enjoy. I stand up for myself as needed and exercise compassion when I can. I am truly grateful for my existence and I don’t take life for granted. I’m going to be married with kids soon and I cannot wait. Thank you Jordan because your videos were the catalyst. Thank you.
@Emmanuel wanguba ashene who are you replying to ?
@Cam sometimes you have to do what feels right even when it goes against the status quo
Wait to be a witness to what?
@James please point me to video of Jordan saying he is an evolutionary biologist or a neuroscientist. (Doesn’t exist)
Sure.
I think that his most recent difficulties have more to do with alleged unprofessional behavior than it does criticism of the government per se, doesn't it? I mean, "Poor people eat too much food" or "climate doesn't exist" aren't direct critiques of any government, are they?
I lost interest in what he is saying when I checked out his assertion that "lack of serotonin is the cause of depression"; it turns out there is no scientific basis for that whatsoever.
Then I looked into him further only to discover his claims, "I am an evolutionary biologist," and "I am a neuroscientist" to both be false: he's always only had a doctorate in cognitive psychology.
I've always intensely disliked and mistrusted paucity of intellectual integrity...
(..."There is a false saying: 'How can someone who cannot save himself save others?' Supposing I have the key to your chains, why should your lock and my lock be the same?"
~ Friedrich Nietzsche)
Been waiting for a conversation on these topics. Excited to give this a listen!
@The Man With No Name Mate, no one knows what you're even talking about anymore.
@Rebel Raccoon I don't care what f33 mails say about that.
@Rebel Raccoon I teach young men "don't get married, don't have kids, it's not worth it. Globalmans case proved that".
@The Man With No Name Let people make their own decisions. If you don't want to marry, don't.
Thank you Dr Peterson. I have learned so much about myself each time I watch you. I come from a very confusing, controlling, violent, alcoholic childhood. While I left home at 15 & have had a successful life, well educated, raised beautiful responsible Christian children, I have often been haunted by my childhood. I spent my entire life trying to get my father to say a few nice words to me. “I love you or I’m proud of you”. I worked hard & was an Executive at the top of my field in both a non profit & corporate. But never once did he accept me. If fact, a few months before he died I asked him if he ever loved me. His answer was “yes, but….” I got up from my chair & told him there was no “but” in love. I did not see him again until he was hours from death. In his will he made sure I knew how much detest he had for me. Yet, I was the only child that was free of drugs, alcohol & had an extremely successful life & raised children that did not end up in jail.
For years I have been in emotional pain over this. Your videos are finally helping me move past this.
Just a note, I did keep my children away from my toxic family & I raised them without violence. They were raised in the church with parental supervision & guidance. I was heavily involved in their lives. A childhood the opposite of mine.
@Jennifer Bingham I struggle with the purpose of the church sometimes. We are called to gather there so it's not easy
@T Baer of course they were hurt by people in the church. That is usually what happens. Nobody I know has gotten through church unscathed.
@Michael Davis strength has a downside. Now I will not allow anyone near me because of being strong enough to protect myself. Although I raised my kids with a church experience, I also have hurt them by those people in the church. I wish it had the best outcome but every experience and every lesson I have encountered has not had a beneficial impact. The consequences of choices are not always pleasant even if it's good for you. The ending doesnt happen until it's over and it's not over yet
What a sad story, but what a wonderful ending. Your trials must have built you into a person of real strength and character.
It's crazy how many people this person has helped. So many thankful comments.
Thanks for your work Dr Peterson.
I put off watching this for a while because I knew it could set off some sensitivities, but you both handle these difficult topics in such a compassionate and level-headed way, which allows me to absorb the information without being too disturbed. That is a talent, and a needed one. Thank you, both!
Before my career ending accident I was almost always my hockey team’s enforcer. However, I must strongly point out that my reason for taking on that role had very little with the need/want/desire to hurt or dominate others. I fell into that role because of my need to protect my fellow teammates from illegal and purposefully harmful behaviors done upon team.
If you intentionally jabbed your stick into a teammate with the intention to cause pain then I felt the need to say “No. There will be repercussions for such behavior. And you won’t like it”. I never went out to intentionally attack anyone. I was there to let others know that if you try to hurt one of my guys then you’ll be dealing with me. You become known as the one that you don’t want to fight with and that, in turn, greatly reduces the amount of times that force is actually needed to be used.
“To secure peace you must first prepare for war.”
-Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus
I disagree. The game itself needs to change. It’s a game and the world won’t come to a screeching halt if no plays it anymore. I stoped playing almost of these games because it’s not fun or a sporting and got into martial arts. Martial arts is violent and an art form. I don’t consider it a sport; moreover, a way of life and a discipline.
Peace through strength! Agree!
Well said! Additionally the fighting results in offsetting penalties. The loss of two players opens up the ice and increases the pace of the game. Putting both sides in a more vulnerable position and refocusing the energy on playing the puck. The days of goon squads on the ice are long gone, at least in the NHL.
Bottomline, character is what you do when no one is looking. This carries over into your behavior in the world.
I'd strongly advise anyone who has the means, to travel if nessecery to attend his lecture on "Beyond order." I had the pleasure of hearing him speak in Dublin and had a wonderful opportunity to chat with him briefly at a meet and greet afterwards. He encouraged my 16 year old son tremendously with his wisdom, kindness, and his gentle fatherly approach. He left a bullied and deflated teenager with the words "Keep aiming upward kid."
My son hasn't looked down since.
Thank you Dr Peterson for your presence in the world and the value you have added to it.
This made me cry instantly. Something about fatherhood that is so special…kudos to you and your son. ❤
@pruneclair7 Christian learn canon law, not bandit canons
😪 I had to sacrifice seeing him because of my job. Bought the ticket to meet and greet the man.
I really enjoyed your discussion today. Fascinating to examine the “dark” sides of humanity, which we have all encountered yet seldom comprehended. Your interviews are always stimulating and inspiring. Thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you Jordan, I see ME for the first time! Thanks to the strength and conviction of your honest words, I'm now over 6 mths sober ( after 25 yrs of blind drunkenness)
If we drop our ego and pick up common sense...magic happens 🙏✨🙌
Jordan, listening to your videos and your view points on many things has helped me turn a lot of things around in my life. As an Aus Army veteran, who sacrificed my physical and mental health during my service, I spent the better part of a decade eating handfuls of meds a day just to "survive". The past 2 months, off my own back, I've dropped down to 1/4 the dosage of most my antipsychs, and completely dropped my benzo's and quetiapine. If you had of asked me if I had thought this was even possible 6 months ago, I'd laugh at you. But I got fed up with being my own victim. My mind is opening up for the first time in a decade, I've also shed so much weight, I'm now back to what I weighed pre injury in Army. I've finally decided I want to live and thrive, and not just survive. Thank you for all that you do. Please tour Aus again when you can, I wasn't able to catch you last year
@0ptions_90 I agree ... just having someone help me realize the mere possibility that my actions could cause others to suffer in the same ways I suffer (flashbacks, night terrors, panic attacks, etc.) made all the difference in the world.
Abuse has a way of making a person believe that their life does not matter. That's a bad trap to become ensnared in ... Too easy to forget others ... Too easy to forget what's real.
Life's better when we care about each other ...
Although people will sometimes hurt you (real freakin' bad, for what sure as heck seems like no damn good reason at all), I still think that "Looking out for #1" above all else will leave you with even more pain in the end.
Amazing opportunities present themselves when we are vulnerable and loving enough to risk everything of ourselves in order to put others first, or to stand up to evil in order to do what's right and good.
I saw a crappy show not too long ago that had some of the best dialogue I'd ever heard:
"You said I'd be a hero!"
"I didn't say you'd look like one."
Sometimes evil makes us think that doing the right thing hurts too much. It tries to get us to give up, turning evil inward (which will always hurt others, as well).
I guess we just have to keep looking down some dark hallway for that window that's flung open after the door was nailed shut 😉
@Julie Pucciariello I've always been transparent about my struggles, in the hopes it may help someone else push through. As they say; Those of us who have experienced the most trauma, never want anybody else to feel like this, so I try my best to advocate for mental health awareness.
Wow Thank You for sharing. It’s amazing the vast amount of people who are helped by JP.
This comment will probably go unread which is more than reasonable and expected, but in case you do happen to run across it I just wanted to say thank you. The more I listen to you the more I respect your opinions. I’m going to buy your book as soon as I get enough money put together. I guess more than anything I just wanted to say to you that I stand in awe of how insanely intelligent you are. It’s inspired me to further my education even if it leads me nowhere. At least I won’t be so damn dumb when I die. I hope you’re doing well outside of your works and your life is as peaceful as possible.
Dr. Paulhus is such an interesting and knowledgeable individual. Thank you for having him on and putting this on KZclip for us.
Jordan, I suppose I'm one of the few women who have been with you from the beginning. You have helped so many men sort out their lives, including my 31 year old son. Please allow me to thank you for not only helping my son but for helping me as well. I was able to withstand, with courage, my mother's brain cancer diagnosis and subsequent death in 2017-2018. You have greatly enriched my life in more ways than I am able to put into words. I am forever grateful. Thank you, Sir.
@Samuel Morris Australian research found a cost-effective way to recycle solar panels using electrostatic separation on PV panels to collect out valuable materials, reducing them to 2-3% of original weight. Source: Dias et al. (2022) "High yield, low cost, environmentally friendly process to recycle silicon solar panels"
Some additional nuclear power will be needed, but nuclear power has various issues, so preference should be given to renewables. I cited a paper in my previous post that answers your other questions.
@Not Woke Victimhood is a serious issue these days. I'm sure she did try to help her own son but sometimes advice is best heard from a stranger as well as one of the same sex. Being one of the more intelligent people on our planet and has a career as a clinical psychologist doesn't hurt either. In any case, I didn't sense victimhood in that post as much as appreciation to have been assisted during a tough time. Without any details it's huge stretch to assume she does not have the ability to be accountable.
@Gary Sarela what's the cost to implement a 100% switch? Jobs lost vs created? What will be done with things like solar panels as they reach the end of their lifespan and can not be used anymore? They can't be recycled easily, what affect would this have on the environment? Does the switch encompass nuclear energy? What percentage of each technology would be required to make a full switch? Would all areas have affordable energy? How many people would be affected as we transition?
The only men watch JP is simply because of his appearances on Rogan, but now his reach is diverse as it is Global.
@Gary Sarela always a 🤡 in the crowd…
Jordan. I just want to tell you that I see you and the effort that you have been putting into your podcast. The way that you have conversations with those you have invited to speak with has improved significantly. It's really refreshing to see someone of great stature also have room for growth.
👉"You must have Teeth" most powerful statement that Jordan said. The meaning behind it is the absolute truth and has helped me in my life soooo very much! Thank you, Dr Peterson ☺️
That was utterly fascinating. Thank you to you both for discussing a complex subject in such an accessible manner for the layperson.
It's great to see you fully back dr. Peterson. A most interesting podcast, and well done by both of you. I am learning a lot in these discussions and I'm amazed at what I can access through these high quality podcasts. Thank you again.
Love how Jordan is not only fascinating but explains complex issue for the laypersons. Easy on the eye too.
I dumped over 500 magazines (about 200 pounds of porn) that I inherited from a family member. Was one of the best decisions of my life. A clear conscience is the SOFTEST PILLOW. Now a goodly woman knows she can trust me more and the best part is that I have built more confidence within myself! This is every man's battle!
Um, exactly where did you throw it away?
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@Nick G 😅
@Nick G I’m
My first book “Light” by Timothy Seckinger is available now on Amazon. Pieces I wrote when I was in a dark depressing place in life. Words that rekindled my souls flame and guided out of the dark abyss that is grief. I hope that someone is touched by my words and the same help that I found in writing them are placed upon your heart. Thanks. ❤️
I was so so blessed to have gotten to meet you and talk to you and I cannot express my gratitude for the encouragement you gave me in the brief time I got to talk to you. Thank you for being the genuine person that you are ❤
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You are really an inspiration of a human being 🙂 Keep up the wonderful content
Definitely one of the most engaging and interesting conversations on Psychology I've listened to in a long time. Blessings to you Mr. JP from Texas 🇺🇸
That was my first psychology video I actually played through.
Well done. My second major was sociology.
The world is a better place with you in it, Dr. Peterson ! ❤
@Anna Rocha you should have listened to globalman Anna. But you didn't. I can assure you millions of men have decided to never have children and will live very happy lives in doing so.
@The Man With No Name I don't know that I could agree with you less. I would be truly surprised to find out if - at the end of your life - you could honestly say you found fulfilment in those things. But people are different. Perhaps you could.
I am so inspired by comments here. If so many people can re-orient and change the life, there must be hope for me as well. I have discovered the topic of narcissism just last year figuring out I have been living through it all my life, and so many things started to make sense finally. But it was devastating. I work on myself and hope to start thriving instead of surviving one day.
Today is that day...and tomorrow, and the next...and so on...
There is definitely hope for us all, friend ❤️
Cross my fingers! ❤️
I used to watch the fatalities on KZclip for mortal combat games. I watch all 40 or however many there were on the newest one at that time, one after another. Personally I'm somebody who gets squeamish and watching the video actually would leave me shaken by the end. My personal motivation to watch this was to toughen myself up. I understand how violence lingers under the surface of people and I don't ever want to put in a compromising situation where I have to defend myself or my family and not be able to do what needs to be done. I joined the military after, in the further pursuit to toughen up and saw much worse. To be clear I am not a combat vet but have seen combat videos from some of the people who thought it'd be a good idea to record. I don't feel pleasure in watching suffering but I am conscious that it's life. And terrible things happen every single day. I don't need to explain myself but I do think that there are more sides to the story around the draw to violence. I believe it to probably be a defense mechanism that most people are not conscious of. The least prepared one in the room in an emergency is the one who doesn't make it home.
*Update* This ended up getting covered.
B.S.
The same with me.
I am vulnerable and i know it.
Defending yourself is key.
Not only physical, but tactical using your brain, intuition and gut feeling combined with creativity and thinking out of the box.
Danger comes in many ways and forms.
That is life. Our entire history on this planet is about survival in all forms.
But i hate to fight and to hurt others physically and all other ways.
I do not like to watch aggressive and violent videos, but i do.
Sports like boxing i will never pay for it to watch. I do not like to see people punching eachother. Could not been married with a proffessional boxer or military man, who likes his profession, just to kill or order people around.
Games where aggression is key is not my thing. Also, it is not teaching you enough, sitting in your comfortable safe room right?
Anyway.
But people with the dark triad are with everyone, including their own family, wife, husband, children, pets cruel, cold, dangerous. Even in the little things. You never will feel safe and loved.
They just hurt and destroy everyone, including their loved ones, who treat the dark personalities right and with love.
They are just very toxic.
Your gut feeling and intuition tells you to back of. No animal will be in good hands with this individuals. They destroy you, your life, their life, others life, with no exception. They do not care. Only in for them only with no regards for the safty and wellbeing for anyone. Only maybe to gain again for themselves.
❤️ you both. Thank you. I don't understand sadism more than anything. I think we should be able to create reliable psychological tests for NPD, machiavellianism and sadism to ensure these people don't EVER get jobs where they can hurt others! For example, the medical field, medical research, politics, police, the military and factory farms (which shouldn't exist anyway)!!! I'm a Healthcare professional who was raised by a mother with NPD and married 3 men with this disorder. I wish I could find psychiatric professionals whom I could work with on this. Any ideas 💡???
@Donna Langley Yes indeed Sweetheart, she seems to be one the very best 👍✌️💖 Thank you 😊 wish I could meet more ppl like you
Start with a lady by the name of Kim Saeed. She has a lot of good information on healing from narracist abuse. It teaches you the red flags and how to deal with the gaslighting in a effective way that is best for you. I wish you healing and happiness in your journey.
Also, if you feel they are being unkind, it is ok to say no. No, you do not get to treat me this way. It is very empowering when you can set healthy boundaries. Saying no is ok. Much love ❤️ namaste you many blessings to you 🙏 ❤️ 💛
1:05:05 This takes me back to track and field day in the fourth grade. Specifically, the standing broad jump. My best friend, where as I was often the youngest in a given classroom, he would be the oldest, bigger, stronger than I, and able to shove me away like a fly. We were grouped in the same class, and it was understandable that he was able to jump farther than I. We both qualified for the tri-county meet. Where he feil short was not being able to refrain from shoving his win in my face for the rest of the day. That planted seeds of determination, that grew into me training myself daily until well after the sun went down, based on the very helpful coverage of the standing broad jump Olympic event, which I had been fascinated by. To slow things down in practice, like a martial art, the ideal movement, memorized. I practiced on a walkway made of patio stones, to make it easy to measure progress, and to make any mistake a painful lesson. The tri county meet arrived, I was bloody nervous, the desire to do it right was burning bright. Again, I was one of the smaller competitors, and so it began. The conclusion, myself having set a new record in addition to winning the event, revealed that my friend did not know how to lose well, when I told him it was his rubbing my loss in the first event in my face relentlessly for the rest of that day that fueled everything I did after that, that his attempt to crush me actually enhanced my ability to focus, to achieve victory over him, that he fueled his own defeat. This was my takeaway from the fourth grade.
@Cup Cake The success and determination is what counts ... Help others focus on the good 😉
Hopefully maturity has taught many of us that letting others have free rent in our heads isn't the best idea!
You do realize you didn’t lose well yourself? You started a damn intensive training program because your friend bragged a little.😂
Old female here; when I was young, trying to sort some problem out by using the telephone, I would express my frustration in a way I would NEVER behave face to face. I was probably just coming into adulthood then. This happened more than twice before I had the insight that I was treating REAL people unhumanely. I did proceed on a rather circuitous route to maturity...still working on it! 😉
Yeah, my mother is a sadistic narcissist with psychopathic tendencies. She is fascinating to study, but I can't have her in my life. I used to be waaaay too empathetic and I'd get tricked by narcissists pretending to be victims. Now I refuse to feel compassion for people who lack it and people who gaslight. Empathy can put you in dangerous situations. I am lucky to be alive.
I've been coming to similar realizations about mine. She told me when I was a kid that she hadn't wanted to have any kids, she never liked me. I'm an only child and I just kept trying to win her over and anytime it looked like I was making progress she would just turn on me for some petty little bullshit and it broke my heart every time. If I came to her in a good mood and wanting to talk it would often get me a stiff slap in the mouth. Literally. Then when I was sad because nobody loved me she'd say what's wrong? Then I'd try to tell her how I felt and before I knew it I was being roughed up again, slapped in the face and verbally abused. Finally when I got big enough to defend myself the physical abuse stopped and the mental abuse went to a whole new level of evil. This whole time I thought she was a Saint. My dad was an alcoholic and had mental health issues so she kicked him out when I was 4, her mother had committed suicide while she was pregnant with me so I made excuses in my little head for her not wanting to do anything but go to work and come home and sleep and be left alone by me. We never had food in the house , she would work 12 hours and come home and eat a piece of loafbread with ketchup and that would be it for the day. So I made friends around the trailer park we lived in and my friend's parents would feed me. She was totally against drugs and alcohol and she didn't date. I took all this to be evidence that she was doing all she could to "support me and keep a roof over our heads" but now I know she just hated people. She didn't give a damn about taking care of me and she resented me for being born and she punished me for it everyday and still does. I'm 41 and I'm just dealing with all the trauma she inflicted on me over the years and it's amazing to see the real truth and realize how sick I've been my whole life trying to avoid seeing it. I've been trying to make up for being such a burden on her all these years and she has punished me for being dependent but every time I started getting things together and trying to establish myself in the world she has sabotaged me to keep me from leaving. We've been codependent this whole time. When I moved out last time I finally saw the fear it caused her and it was a revelation to realize that all this time she had been fooling me into feeling like she never wanted me around, just so I would keep trying to make up for being born, just so she could have me around to blame her anger and antisocial ways on me and the mental health issues I've struggled with. It's a sick game but I'm making progress finally.
I don't think you understand the correct meaning of the word empathy. It means simply to understand.. It is not in en way shape or form sympathy you can understand why somebody does something without feeling sorry for them
@Samantha Sorry to hear of your troubles. Itll get better I promise. When I was a kid Idk why but I always imagined myself falling for a Samantha. Arrre you her? Haha that's a reach I know!
Seriously tho, shit can only fall downward. So scrape whatever shit that's in your way to the side and stay positive. Youve got climbing to do! Good luck
I can totally relate to your brief description of yourself and of your mother. A few yrs ago, I myself could not refer to my mother as such so i started calling her 'the beast who bore me'. Which in hindsight came abt because of my need to be able to speak abt her to my now ex-spouse whilst in the company of our youngest child who at the time was a very impressionable 5yr old budding feminist daughter.
I too am attracted to the wounded lambs and just realized a few months ago that I am beginning to be able to detect the subtle stench of gaslighting and manipulations of a vic.narc. I was seeing sexually.
And bro it's much more than just luck that we are still alive. We have fought off the claws of these monsters successfully, sought refuge and survived their attempts at our destruction. That,to me bro, is a skill.
I have been working at a juvenile detention facility as a nurse for 10 years. The development of personality is very interesting. I have met a few youth that are probably future serial killers. What is surprising is the number of sex offenders.
@Jay Adjudicated means convicted. So all youth are in their court process still. Most youth are going to go home to do a community program or sent to a residential program. It's the major crimes that go youth corrections. We are involved in helping get community support systems going and working the county state probation officers.
What can you do to help them?
Adjudicated in reference to juveniles?
@DonBelial No. We do a program specifically for juvie. We can't do treatment as youth have not been adjudicated.
Was there ever an attempt to introduce books or videos of JBP at the detention facility?
Your advice has saved more People than you can imagine.its helped me you've changed a lot of the world for the better .thanks Dr Jordan Peterson
I sat through this entire video and worked hard to understand words and ideas that are not a part of my world and I wished I could have understood the concepts better. I know this kind of information would be so valuable for people who do not have college degrees and extensive vocabularies. Jordan, would you ever consider writing books on psychology for the common man?
Dr Peterson has hours and hours of lectures available. The more you listen, the more you will understand. He doesn't dumb it down.
It would have been interesting to see an analysis of Paulhus’s own personal desire to to study the dark triad or dark personality traits as opposed to other less sensational metrics
Mr. Peterson I’ve followed your lectures through the past 7 years, I’ve been through a number of your childhood trauma models, six years ago I got sober from alcohol addiction and substance abuse, I’ve separated from my friends and family entirely, currently living in a monestary as a monk. On a hardcore carnivore diet. However all the reasons I was lead so far away from proper health choices still exist in the psyche and now I’m without community so I’ve recently heard the term internal family systems but I’m still not waking up feeling recovered still the opposite. Lots of arthritis on the daily, any for my individual situation?
Thank you Jordan Peterson, from Montreal,Qc. Recently you helped my husband and I reconnect. He works a lot and I'm a homemaker and business woman (painter, fine artist) We both resonate with your advice to make physical and mental efforts to keep challenging ourselves to be decent, humble human beings, loving human beings to one another. I've lost a lot during this coup (government lockdowns) so I'm climbing back up. I let go of my career in policing due to mandates and unconstitutional actions but, on the contrary, this suffering and loss has also brought on a new sense of responsibility within my community and more importantly: within the home front for my 2 boys. I'm on my journey at reconnecting with God and pursuing a deeper understanding of the Bible.
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Charlene, appreciate your post. I would like to recommend Torah Club through First Fruits of Zion. A Bible study from Israel by Messianic Jews.
Fascinating.
I felt compelled to take the time to express my sorrow at the loss of your career you've surely worked hard to attain. But I also felt compelled to take the time to say thank you. To praise your decision, hard may it have been, because persons such as yourself remind me that I am not alone in my disgust, in my questioning and rejection of the current social "flavor", if you will.
So thank you. Thank you for your resilience. Thank you for the example in integrity. But mostly, thank you for your humanity, which is sorely lacking at this time.
We see you
Amen! God bless from Pittsburgh!
This was so fascinating and life-changing to hear. I remember my teenage years, and now have to put that past to work remembering how to react. This was a great explanation of the "WHY?".
Absolutely fascinating conversation between two great minds.
Saw you in London ON on Jan 31. So glad I did, you were engaging g, articulate and charismatic. Loved watching your thought process on full display and thank you for taking your audience along for the ride. I really hope you tour for your upcoming book as well :) Thank you for the work you do Dr. Peterson.
*Mycopete.*
I can recommend you to where I get my stuff from an online store.
I have seen/experienced far more than my fair share of humanity's darkest parts, including being a slave to an extremely abusive narcissist for nearly 14 years. Now that I'm trying to deal with my husband's cheating and wanting a divorce. He says he doesn't want to try marriage counseling because it didn't work for his parents and has no desire to stay with me and the kids. I see everything that he's doing for HER that I have been asking him to do for me/us. It crushes me. I am so filled with rage right now it hurts to breathe and it's SO hard not to show it in frontof the children. My heat has been trampled to the point that I am done trying
Yes. They eventually treat the new person horribly. It's just the lovebomb stage to reel them in. Prayers
I'm 59 and view myself as fairly intelligent and fairly smart but it took me twice listening to this video to comprehend exactly what they were describing. Hopefully one day I will be on their level of understanding of the human mind.
God bless them both for their God given gift. 🙏
Thanks Dr Peterson. This is such an important topic, especially for men. Just because something is easy, perhaps especially when it is easy it usually coming with a great cost. One could even argue that pornography can have a direct link to the sexless marriages and relationships we see these days. It is so crazy the times we are in.
@Gary Michael Flanagan i think of porn use as a side effect or cope rather than an end which would make the cause the worst threat. what is your perspective?
@Artsy you are right. I had a friend who had ED and I think a lot of it had to do with how he was never satisfied. He ended up getting divorced because he cheated on his wife. Very sad. We aren’t friends anymore as of about 7 years ago. We were only friends when we went out on the town, not someone I would consider a close friend. But yes I think internet porn is probably one of the worst threats to young men. It makes them lazy and unsatisfied
The violent aspect upon the minds of the youth is causing the biggest harm. Old school stuff was wholesome compared to what is available today. The young consuming those visuals is creating a very disturbing image of what they think intimacy should look like. It’s horrific the repercussions that’s already playing out.
Excellent conversation, as always!
Your guest got off to slow start, but as I relaxed into listening I was able to stay with his delivery. With mindfulness and shadow training it’s possible to catch one’s own pathological tendencies. I’m hopeful for humanities elders setting the field tone. May we live long and hold the reins. Gingivitis is striking people younger and younger related to inflammatory lifestyles.
I feel like watching Jordan increases my critical thinking skills. His takes on stuff really make you think.
This was a fascinating topic of discussion, thanks for clarifying your position and providing sources/evidence from the horses mouth on some of topics you discuss. It's hard for people to call you out when you are functioning in the realm of science and evidence based research rather than topics of ideological specifics.
Cheers thanks for making the world more wise and informed place!
@James I will address this with what I thought on those points soon.
Well thought out.
I think that his most recent difficulties have more to do with alleged unprofessional behavior than it does criticism of the government per se, doesn't it? I mean, "Poor people eat too much food" or "climate doesn't exist" aren't direct critiques of any government, are they?
I lost interest in what he is saying when I checked out his assertion that "lack of serotonin is the cause of depression"; it turns out there is no scientific basis for that whatsoever.
Then I looked into him further only to discover his claims, "I am an evolutionary biologist," and "I am a neuroscientist" to both be false: he's always only had a doctorate in cognitive psychology.
I've always intensely disliked and mistrusted paucity of intellectual integrity...
(..."There is a false saying: 'How can someone who cannot save himself save others?' Supposing I have the key to your chains, why should your lock and my lock be the same?"
~ Friedrich Nietzsche)
JP is spot on - I have been reading Christine Feehan since high school. Over a decade...It is vampire-ish romance, albeit the men in those novels cherish and treasure their lifemates. They uphold honor and dignity, and protect their own. They spend hundreds of years searching for her...they are not some 'playboy' with options. But its been difficult to find a man with just enough capacity to be considered threatening, but also have enough empathy...They're either too much of a golden retriever and boring or they're a douche canoe.
I'd be interested in a study done on Twitch girls...They believe their time and attention to be of such high value that people have to pay money for them to look their way. I saw one woman who would roulette "date" people that donated and 'deem them worthy of boring' and boot them. Incredibly narcissistic
You could say the same of any twitch streamer regardless of gender. They are all selling themselves and think their time is worthy of payment. If men are willing to pay they are right.
You're the reason good men are alone. The fact women use derogatory terms for these kind of men is terrible. This should be a sign for you to reflect on what you want in a man. But women finding anything less than a "Chad" boring has become all too common. And only shows a flaw in modern females preferences.
I fully respect Jordan Peterson and all he does ❤ he’s a real human being, true to himself and true to the real Truth and Reality.
Justice for the Petersons 💯🙌🏻
@BubbleOnPlumb close. The blue side represents heaven and the underneath is a blue cloud like pattern. The red represents hell and the inside is red flames. Haha. He was speaking about his suits on another video and says he has about 9 fancy luxury made suits, some were sent in PR to him others he purchased. One has various peoples’ face including Joe Rogen and Russell Brand among others.
@Pretty 🌙Brown🤎 Eyes Well I do have to admit that I am not up on all of the nuances of Dr. Peterson's wardrobe. I will take a wild guess though about the meaning of this particular color scheme - The red is on the wearer's right side and the blue is on the wearer's left side. In the USA I suppose that would signify the red state/blue state divide in our political and social temperament. In my view Dr. Peterson actually falls somewhere in the middle as he has expressed both conservative and classically liberal views. He also has absolutely no use for the far right or the far left as far as I can tell so that again would place him somewhere in the center. So how did I do> Am I even close with my interpretation of the esoteric meaning of the suit?
@BubbleOnPlumb the suit is extraordinary! It is awesome. Do you know what the two colours represent? He has tons of special suits that have special meaning.
@young waif There are people/higher-ups that are trying to shut out Jordan Peterson and silence his words of wisdom and truth, as well as destroy his career. He’s done nothing wrong, yet they treat him as though he’s spreading lies and whatnot. He’s a Great man and it’s both sad and ridiculous that anyone would want this man’s words to be known as ‘false.’
He deserves to be heard. He’s a brilliant intellectual and an amazing teacher, that only speaks the Truth to in depth. In my opinion, He deserves the Upmost respect.
Justice for the Petersons? What's this regarding?
Jordan, you taught me how to finish growing up. It was physically quite intense in the beginning and drawing from your words and those of other stoic philosophers I not only made it but excelled in the adversity.
I think a clear line should be drawn between sadism and desire to "put one off their pedestal" or desire for retribution. For example, if one person were to endure a long lasting series of bullying from another person and one day all that built up rage explodes in a burst of disproportionate violence, which the first person would undoubtedly enjoy momentarily, should be different from a person inflicting pain upon another person simply because they can do little to defend themselves.
The point about classical virtues (such as empathy or intelligence or patience) being inherently virtuous is really hitting home for me. Especially the part about inviting strangers into your home. Empathy is not in and of itself a virtue. On its own, it will not improve the world. It needs to be tempered with something else… perhaps courage and distrust? I don’t know. Just spitballing here. Still learning.
Empathy is not a virtue per se, but without it, there is no virtue, it is focal to human society, culture and order-what I would call a coalition, a collective of people. In a hyper individualist world it is no wonder that we're seeing people lack empathetic traits, something at the very core of a collective society
Wisdom. All virtues and classically positive associated traits can devolve into their own pathologies without proper wisdom guiding their application.
One. Must only go to see him speak to understand just how broad Jordan’s appeal is.
I have had the pleasure several times. At each I met people of different ages, genders, ethnicities and personality.
Seeing a crowd fill a huge venue and LISTEN to a HIGH LEVEL lecture for more than a n hour while hanging on every word is amazing.
Jordan makes you stretch your mind and emotions the same way Thomas Sowell does. And you come away the better for it.
I did not know about the Dark Tetrad. It's a must to read about it. As always, Jordan's guests are mindblowing.
I know 3 people that throughout my life I have marveled at their extreme callus and wondered what root traits or disorders caused it. This video clarified the differences very well. I worked directly for the psychopath and watched how effective his methods were at destroying people and achieving his goals. My competence made him look good so we had no issues but I was always aware that a bad day was all it would take for me to come into his focused wrath. I would tell people that mistook his smile for friendship that he had no friends but they would not believe me until it was to late. Later when I no longer could lose my job at his command, he said something about us getting along, and I told him it was because I always understood we were not friends and I was expendable every day he laughed and smiled.
@Maria Michael good question, he was a VP and I had a group that did special projects for him, my men never had to deal with him, I did it. Other crews in the company would tell what he did. Most of his focus was on elimination of competition in upper management. Later I was promoted and the men that worked under me delt with me not him. Years later I still have a good relationship with the men I worked with even though I am in a different industry now.
I have known a few over the years too, worked for one, dated one, they are both fascinating and terrifying, albeit when I sniff them out these days I usually run 🏃🏼😆
Sad 😢
But did you stand up to him when he was picking on other people or did you turn the other way?
My kids (and since I’ve asked them, my friends) have told me I’m a high-functioning psychopath. I don’t like the idea, and I’m not completely convinced they’re correct, but I see where they’re coming from. I’m wickedly aware of what others are thinking and feeling, I know how to say and do things that make people think I’m a good person. I have feelings, sometimes very deep and profound feelings; feelings, however, never have me. I can make hard choices without my feelings getting in the way. I mostly get what I want out of life. But what I want out of life is to be a good father to my kids, a good husband to my wife, a good friend to my friends, a “good person” in general. Seems to me this is very normal, maybe I’m fooling myself. Not sure what the difference is between a good person and a person who acts like one.
@Cup Cake we’re in the process of divorce right now, still trying to be a good person. Curious, what did you expect?
There's no such thing as a good person. We are all sinfull, all flawed. She just attemp to be good in ways that we think make sense. However I think the true way to attempt to be good would be to follow the Bibles Teachings.
I think that difference would really show up if they didn’t get what they truly wanted. How do you think you’d react if your wife left you?
"Not sure what the difference is between a good person and a person who acts like one." None lol.
I think a key cause of these traits is one perceives themselves as weak. Those dark triad traits seem like the ways people react to feeling weak or respond to fear or confronted by the unknown. One way or psychopathy is by becoming something scary. We know psychos tend to do dangerous or tough things because doing them makes you respected or feared and not to be messed with. Machiavellians fear manipulation so they manipulate others before it happens to them. They seek to hold power over someone Narcissists tend to try to look as harmless as possible which explains why image is so important to them. The thing in common though is that they are all scared and when someone or something reacts somewhat predictably they or we in this matter are happy. For example, in a hockey game if a player gets shoved and the other player reacts, they view the guy who fought back as the good guy. Why? People resonate with the guy that fought back. In my experience, it is people who feel they are being taken advantage or harmed by someone else that tend to enjoy seeing or potentially causing those who hurt them suffering and they see that in the other player who hits back which is why they cheer, there comes sadism. Some of these people give up and hope to make as much peace with it as possible, working to understand it and give it what it wants, eg the law abiding citizen. It tends to require empathy. These are the people we believe to be the least likely to harm someone and co exist with and also the most easily taken advantage of and manipulated causing resentment. A good human being, in my opinion, is like the latter but being capable of understanding and acting like a psycho, narcissist or Machiavellian too makes someone complete or real human being.
Excellent. The study of personality is interesting. Great to get updated research explained.
I regret all the time not continuing my goal of obtaining a PhD in psychology and focusing on personality. I’ve always asked since a kid, Why do people do what they do?
My last gf. Who I still love very deeply is a narcissist at the least. Her mother, father, brothers, anyone she can hurt she will. Her friends are a different story. It's very interesting and I just want to learn more about it. Deep down I feel truly sorry for her. She comes from a good family as do I.
What an absolute role model you are sir.
A small YoutTube comment could never express my gratitude, not only have you bettered the life of every single person I now interface with, you helped to prevent the awful reality that could have been (and was) my life.
I resonate so strongly with both yourself and Dr Phaulhus across this entire discussion - words cannot explain.
The burden of putting forward your compassion, empathy, generosity, and vulnerability is no short of a miracle; I hope the foundation I create for myself will help me to do the same.
Thank. You.
@Mafia and you!
It's a solid foundation when you embrace your shortcomings substituting these with the 6th element of humility and honesty. I see and wish you continued success! God bless you 🙏🏻
Amen…❤
Professor Peterson, I follow your debates, dialogues and it is incredibly satisfying seeing a very intelligent man who knows how to debate, knows logic and logical fallacies, knows how to be calm under extreme pressure, knows how to evade traps, knows how to listen carefully the person which debates... I am living in one very small country in Europe, I studied philosophy and logic, and I had subjects like formal logic, methodology, psychology, rhetorics, so I think I can spot when I see an extremely intelligent person who has willpower to hold on to his principles and is dismantling opponents with ease without glowing and having intellectual hubris. I follow you, and I sure am learning a lot from you. Thank you for all that you do, and, of course, I am your new subscriber.
Sorry for the mistakes in my comment, English is far from being my first language.
Sometimes, it's hard for me to believe how much I enjoy these interviews by Jordan Peterson. When I browse some of the contents on his channel's, I sometimes notice the the videos run for an hour or more. I say to myself "that's more time than I'd like to sit and listen right now." Almost always, I find myself listening all the way through the video, or sometimes listen in parts and come back to finish. Discussions on topics that I have interest in help, but Dr. Peterson's always (at least in my own opinion) seems to keep in his mind a consciousness of the types listeners that may be digesting the content of the discussions. I don't believe he does this for the sake of reaching a broader audience. I do believe he is trying not to lose anyone by presenting complex ideas. He seems to teach as he talks so that anyone can understand (or at least begin to) the ideas behind the point he is making. That may mean a longer discussion and a longer video, but I genuinely appreciate it. Thank you.
I so wish I could attend one of your sessions and may God allow me, even perhaps speak to you directly. I just want to say thank you for your service to humankind, I also want to remind to if I may be so bold, some people are just a little slow and behind so don't get too upset when some of them don't get the message when you speak sensibly.
I value your effort to steer humanity in the right direction so much. It has seriously been such a long time that we had someone as sensible and I fear that should you no longer be there, we will suffer for a looooong period after before we will be gifted by another brilliant mind like yours.
Godspeed and please know that I love and appreciate you.
My biggest question is if there has been any significant proof in balancing these traits? Specifically can the Darker personalities of which act on compulsivity,sexual pleasure , ever really find that empathy and true understanding in how they hurt people they love? Because that compulsivity is one that's almost impossible to tame.
I have seen high empathy in teachers of young children. Often it is a necessary and helpful trait when working with little ones. I have seen that high empathy in the teachers can lead to giving children freedom they are not well prepared to handle and can set the children up for failure in behaviour and social growth. These teachers sometimes struggle with setting reasonable boundaries.
Empathy is the ability to feel someones pain/emotion/needs, it might seem like it but it's obvious that this teacher didn't exactly have empathy for the student as she didn't provide them the necessaries to grow, there is never too much empathy, that's something you can never overdo, the problem is people failing to detect it when its there and when its not, creating echoes of misinterpretation
That’s interesting. I’m a piano teacher and teach group lessons. I also work with kids in other settings- leading plays and teaching small groups. I definitely am not agreeable and kind of aggressive but it is what the kids need and keeps big groups in line.
I appreciate how you are giving a wider platform to highly-educated scientists, philosophers, and theorists. And most of all: how you LISTEN and give people room to discuss, explain, and/or respond... and give back just as much as you receive intellectually and conversationally.
yes
@Sven N. good point
Yes ! Bring some more intelligent people to the table!
Its like the podcast rogan does but with a more akademic aproach. U can feel both of them genuinly want to know more about the topic
It's remarkable
A powerful analysis of our afflicted zeitgeist in the 21st Century. Where people hate with love and love with hate. Thank you.
Dr. Peterson,
You appear to me to be an authentic, genuine, and emotionally empathetic person with a love for honesty, while accepting of the perfectly imperfect human state.
You are a voice of reason in a world of often madness. Please don’t ever toss your ideals for manmade idols. This planet absolutely needs healing through learning, tolerance and understanding at a time so many of us are afraid to even speak.
After 17 years of smoking its been 3 months now without smoking a cigarette, i started wanting more from life, im on my way to my new career, it was a hard road to take but i never felt so good in life, thank you JP
I've been thinking about the question "What positive effect can psychopathy have for our species"? There was a good definition of the common trait for "the dark side" or psychopathy in the dialogue: lack of empathy, lack of ability to perceive the feelings of others and include them in "in the equation" when one makes decisions. I have two examples of positive side of psychopathy: Elon Musk and Linus Torvalds. Both of them don't really give a sh*t about other people's feelings. They have a strong vision and do everything to achieve it. Both men have a tremendous impact on the development of our society. Without their "dark side" this would not be possible.
Interesting chat. What struck me was the theoretical approach to all this. In the past, ethics/ morality was understood as more of a practical study grounded in discussions of virtue and vice [in the self-determining subject]. Theoretical explanations, in contrast, look to find some objective/ natural cause for the behavior.
Sadism used to be a frequently used concept but then it "disappeared". Now it is coming back. Sadistic personality disorder was considered by the DSM but was dropped. Great discussion!
@gg_rider sadism is the sensational, psychological pleasure of harm, in these tribes people were 'sacrificing' for (what they believed/was their reality) certain things and people to gods and deities which would protect their ingroup, so essentially were doing the opposite
Internet has trained people up online and then it spills outside in reality.
@gg_rider We Europeans were the top noch with our Romans gladiadors hahaha.
I had the thought that the concept of "sadistic" exists in our relatively peaceful culture.
Other cultures, in the present, and especially in the past, what we consider abnormal sadism was often the norm.
African tribal chiefs (some) according to Christian missionaries, not only captured, kept, and sold slaves, slaves were used in human sacrifice rituals.
Europeans surely did much of the same at some times, with both violence by leaders and mob violence.
I just learned about Aluu Four.
it was? :O
when did you see it?
I think the sadism/psychotic correlation is very flawed, because sometimes some people might just be holding a grudge on one or a few people that have hurt them REALLY badly. I think there’s a strong link between childhood ACE score and being “crazy.” I wonder if there’s also a strong correlation between childhood ACE and the dark tetrad scores.
The voice of reason in our sick society. Thank you, JP. ❤️
Un saluto da parte del cav Claudio lo cascio dalla stupenda Puglia. La terra e la nostra casa, il futuro sono i nostri figli, l universo e la nostra via.
From Belgium, a deeply sincere thank you (what words to use) for ALL you give - do - teach - are, dr Peterson, you change many lives, lots of respect to you and your family
nice to see other belgians in the comments
That suit at beginning of video is certainly something different. Can't say I would wear it myself but I still maintain respect and appreciation for this man.
I'm autistic and deeply anxious and though I can't say I'm winning at anything, he gives me hope that it can't always be this way.
I'm hopeful that my soul is going to somehow carry on and maybe in another life I'll be more successful. That doesn't mean I am totally giving up on my life as it is, and it would be foolish to assume that anything happens after death of this life. But on the same token I always say to myself... isn't time a man made construction? What even is time? And if I came to being once in a universe that cannot maybe exist in any one time, perhaps rebirth can really be inevitable? But then what could that mean?
Life is strange in and of itself but I choose to believe if we are here once, why not again? Death is scary but also immensely intriguing.
Everything on earth dies and seems to rebirth. Trees for example do it for centuries.
Alive and vibrant during summer but dead as nails in winter. It's almost as if it's some sort of sign about what nature really may be about. And not necessarily that we are even alive on the same planet or even same universe.
IF time is not based on true reality, I'd say it be likely death would be an immense deep sleep - one in which of course previous experience and life would be totally gone. And we are born wholly empty.
Scientists might be sure that a big bang happened but are they sure how it happened, why.. I don't think so and I don't think we can ever likely know or understand it. How can something happen out of nothing? And if nothing exists, then nothing is still something if it can end up producing something else.
Personally, with the subject of violence, I enjoy it very much, even horror movies, I feel a level of joy, or excitement in it, sometimes I find it comical, but if I ever watch something that is real, I view it very differently, I can't even look at it for long, it hurts me heart, and makes me physically sick, it emotionally effects me to tears most of the time, when it's fake it doesn't give me that feeling, I see it completely as entertainment, wich mostly has story's ending in the antagonist being beaten, or defeated, and the potential victim against all odds surviving and overcoming. However some films can be too realistic when showing deaths, that also can disturb me, Movies, cartoons, horror, blood and guts stuff doesn't bother me partially cause I know it's fake, but it's so over the top, I can't take it seriously enough to feel it's psychology negative, it's no different than a books descriptions of the same things. Despite that I really cannot understand why, or how anyone can watch somebody being beaten, killed, or suffering. Violence in sports, or hand to hand combat is not the same, they know what there getting into, there not being forced to be in those positions, they train to do those things, not everyone who watches the sport, fight whatever, watch to see suffering, they watch to see a real contest, between talented trained individual's competing. It's human nature, there's a difference between watching people competing, and watching/enjoying, pain and suffering. We definitely need to have talks with our youth about separating reality, with entertainment, there's to many people profiting from blurring those lines as much as possible.
Thanks so much for what you do, Dr. Peterson.
Sadism isn't about anger, it's about coldness, lack of emotion. It's in the territory of hatred. Everyone has this emotion and when it's not acted out, it just feels cold, harsh, and pointed. The emotion of hatred arises particularly during abuse of power, and if acted out against you either emotionally, behaviorally or physically, you are the more helpless one. Feeling helpless and being hurt is very difficult to tolerate. Coldness/ hatred is the personality's best imitation of power. Even if you are in the powerless position being hurt, hatred will arise in you to temove any other emotion that might be arising, like hurt or sadness. People who act out the emotion of coldness/ hatred via sadism get the chance to be the more powerful one that's hurting another. This is where the enjoyment comes - they are turning the tables and get to be the powerful one, and not the powerless one being hurt. These people usually have been abused themselves sometimes in the past and are acting out the other role.
Sadism is pleasure at others' misfortune.
Fascinating to see Dr. Peterson get into the weeds on his principal subject matter. Though I will say that almost 2 hours of discussing personality with someone who apparently completely lacks one did necessitate consuming it in small bites over a few days. This just clearly illustrates how lucky we all are to have a dynamic man like Jordan shaking up the world by bringing science to the analysis of our social ills. Thank you sr.
😂 good point
Love hearing Jordan Peterson on the edge, discussing new things
Dear Mr. Jordan Peterson, Sir. Congratulations on such a great work, you've done. And this your channel is a treasure for humanity. God bless you! We all are with you and support your work and great legacy for the whole world. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍❤️
I feel that if we can teach our young children to feel and not fear their emotions. That would change the world. Currently the trend is to change all outside factors so they don't have to feel a bad emotion.
Jordan we need you all over the world!! Stay with us! You’re a voice of reason
✊❤️🔥"one of very few
I feel some of the excitement about violence in sports is the beauty in two competitors physically trying to hurt each other and then are able to shake hands after. The ufc fighters who disrespect their opponent after the fight typically end up as a villain amongst everyone. You will notice the negative feelings whenever a ufc fighter is taking serious damage and is essentially getting beat up at that point, even some of the fighters inflicting the damage want it to stop. Or will try to avoid breaking the bone when submitting someone, because they are trying to win a competition, not injure someone. They just understand the competition they are participating in has a high injury risk. The beauty is seeing two competitors digging and finding more strength and determination than maybe they thought was possible
It's good to have you back, professor.
Great as always and thank you for your time.😊👍🏾
I have researched this in my industry, the study of dark triads is what appeals to me. My industry is Oil and gas. This industry is Full of people with Dark Triad personalities. it's crazy. I use this to identify people who i need to watch out for.
That problem of bringing in good people and building a great team, only to be destroyed by one or two bad apples is persistent in all social groups.
Classrooms, Churches, HOA's, PTA's, political groups and work teams.
The times we think back to the "good old days, when things were great", are usually times when there were no bad apples!
Everyone pulled their weight and worked as a strong team - Things/ work was effortless and productive.
I can look back and see this, and recognize when it failed. When a bad apple was introduced, it all went sour and never recovered.
Sometimes it was an entry level worker, sometimes a manager... Didn't seem to matter.
Peterson’s lectures give me life and faith in this sadly crumbling world.
Come closer to the Lord ☦️
@KZclip TruthLife This still comes down to taking on responsibility. People get a lot of value out of their lives by becoming responsible for raising good kids, being a good spouse, protecting their communities, giving to charity, etc. The culture these days seems to be a lot of demanding other people make the world a better place, but when it matters, being apathetic to what goes on in the world.
@Chris I think any aware and emphatic person would bring awareness to hungry kids, people who freeze in their home, elderly who gets bad threatment, the government who wants to control you like a tool etc etc...
The world doesn't have to be crumbling. You can enjoy life without the things going on having an impact on you. The issue is what you're placing your awareness on.
Two very interesting human beings that I could listen to for hours. Thank you :)
1:45:00 Thank you both, Dr. JP and Dr. DP, fueling a desire to broaden my perceptions, by helping others to broaden theirs.
Thank you Gordon, for exploring such an interesting topic. 🙂