Believe it or not, the next Ottoman script is finally ready. Rejoice, the fans of that series, we are entering the strangest era. This video is a remake of our older video on the battle of Ankara - we decided to make it to show the Timurid perspective. If you are interested in the events after this battle, this video explains the Ottoman civil war: kzclip.org/video/IUlp9U2p5_c/бейне.html and this one covers the rise of the Mughals: kzclip.org/video/ycv4gDXbm7s/бейне.html
Another weird thing about this battle is the experience of Johann Schiltberger. Schiltberger was a German Crusader who had fought the Ottomans at the battle of Nicopolis, was captured by Bayezid, and then in turn was captured by the Timurids when the Ottomans were defeated at Ankara... Strangely enough though, he lived, returned home eventually, and wrote about his adventure.
@DomScatterbrain High IQ of him In war and peace Timur was very intelligent Ruthless and bloodthirsty to make a point Courteous and engaging with intelligentsia
@wilson the conqueror Magelan(if that's how you spell his name) would travel the world less than 200 years later. Oswald von Wolkenstein a diplomat and an outstanding music composer (seriously look up his songs) traveled most of Europe and made it as far as Georgia as referenced in his song "Durch Barbarei Arabia".
That's not strange and it really fits Timur's true nature to spare him. Timur may see him as a historian and he was released to tell write the story. Just like when Timur spared ibn Khaldun, knowing that ibn Khaldun is actually a scholar rather than a commander.
You really have to admire Stefan's loyalty. Bayezid was a foreign overlord who did not speak Stefan's language, he did not share Stefan's religion. Half of the Sultan's army had already defected to the enemy, Stefan could have taken his men and fled, he could have left Bayezid to his fate and instead retreated home to assert his independence. Instead, Stefan fought his way through hordes of Timurids to save his Sultan. He refused to retreat without his commander. Whatever bad blood exists between Serbs and Turks, I think both Serbs and Turks can agree that Stefan really embodied the virtues of chivalry, courage and honour.
Great observation indeed. In a time where treason during battles were all too common, Stefan's stand is an epitaph to his honor and bravery. No one, and I mean no one would or could blame him should he have defected / ran from the field of battle. Yet, he fought until the end. A paragon of virtue, an example to all.
Stefan tried to ransom back his sister Despina who was Bayezid wife (Stefan and Bayezid were brother in laws) Timur refused, but said "the Serbs fight like lions" sources say the she became a nun? After Timur's death
In some extend he has to. There was no other option for him. On the other hand we have to accept Serbian wing's courage in the war. Even Timur admired them.
@Michael Ralte this change of culture may be confusing to settled people but for the adventurous like the Rus/Normans/Mongols/Huns/Magyars etc changing cultures was the norm
@Dusan Stankovic the serbs were pretty much running the empire. Beyazıt was half Greek orthodox and wasn't very fond of the turkic people but used them as cannon fodder then sent in the Serbian knights in black armour to finish off the enemy with shock and awe. Mehmet took Constantinople in 1453 with those tactics and it was the Serbian knights who entered the fortress first and did their business.
Timur's body rests in the Gur-e-Amir Mausoleum in Uzbekistan. His epitaph of dark nephrite jade can be found in two very interesting lines: "When I rise from the dead, the world will tremble." "Whoever disturbs my grave will unleash an invader more terrible than me." The second is interesting since a team of Soviet scientists led by Mikhail M. Gerasimov, took out the remains of Timur to evaluate them. The established day for the extraction was June 19, 1941. Two days later Nazi Germany began Operation Barbarossa, the invasion of the Soviet Union. Timur's body was returned to his grave with a Muslim religious ceremony on December 20, 1942. Three days later, the German high command decided to abandon the attempts to free the Sixth Army trapped in Stalingrad, leaving them to their fate. They surrendered on February 2, 1943, marking a turning point in the course of the second world war. This is referred to as the "Curse of Timur". Thanks K&G for this great documentary.
Watch the movie "The Shadow" with Alec Baldwin. There Timur rises in early 20th century and The Shadow have to stop him. Very cool and underrated comics hero movie. The Shadow is inspiration for Batman.
bro imagine being a coward and leave the battle before facing him it were the chrisitians which remained with bayezid what if he had his full army timur was gay ngl attacked while bayezid was already invading constatinople
@amjad khan are u ok timurs empire went on to survive very long and in 1526 his Great grandson part of the royal timurid family conquered India and moved the timurids there . Read history bro ever heard of the mughals
Americans taking Baghdad: "we need that oil" Hulagu taking Baghdad: "how dare they not take me seriously" Timur taking Baghdad: "I just want my skull towers"
@ابو سليمان السلفي The Ummayad army numbered 20,000-25,000 men, while the Frankish army numbered 15,000-20,000 men. I do not know how you have come up with those numbers, Abu Sulayman.
No one in the era of the Umayyads could approach Baghdad except to die, and no one tried to do so throughout the period of the Umayyad rule. The Umayyads were not defeated in a battle other than the Battle of Toulouse (Poitiers), where the Christian army numbered 400 thousand and the Muslim army 50 thousand. For information, the caliph could have sent 300,000 fighters, but he did not do so because he was busy
Boris Erdogan what do you mean fresh supplies? This video hasn’t spoke about the specifics of the invasions and just oversimplified them but Timur lost a lot of soldiers on his part in all 8 invasions.
I am a Türk and have deep respect for the Serbians. Orthodox Chrsitians in general were very honourable. And I do not get why Timur is loved by so many. He was cruel and brutal.
@Muzaffer Bulut he was a turko-mongol essentially a turkicized mongol group. At this time, many mongols have turkified, persianified a century after in the golden horde
Baghdad unlucky ? What about Aleppo ? Every warlord that could scape 10 troopers together automatically seems to attack Aleppo and if he has 12 in his army he can sack it !
John Wayne Except timur killed millions just because he wanted, just for the sakes of cruelty, he wouldn't gain any strategical advantage by massacring baghdad or any other city, most of the time in wars violence is not the end, but the means, while for Timur conquest was the mean and violence was the end
John Wayne Guaranteeing their hegemony, maintaining their country's superpower status, I'm not american, european, russian, chinese, etc, but I totally understand these coutries actions, I understand why the russians invaded crimea, and if I was russian I would think they have the right to do it, I understand why america keeps their troops in the middle east, I understand why china wants to expand it's territory in south china sea, they are not right, but they are not wrong also, they are simply enforcing their will
Ivaiyo Ivanov That's the thing, it took 5 centuries for the ottoman empire to reach timur level, the armenian genocide is the most infamous example but timur killed around 20 million people in a spam of 35 years, that's a stalin level of genocide, and we're talking about something that happened more than 600 years ago
John Wayne You're seriously comparing a guy who says shit in twitter and a medieval rules who kills millions, order his soldiers to make dozens of piramids with the skulls of innocent citizens and brutally kills almost every single prisoner he gets?
Georgian here. There's a village in Georgia called "Mdzovreti" which literally means "corpse-land" - thanks to Timur.. Also, King Giorgi VII actually outlived Timur after 8(!) destructive invasions only to die in a battle against "Black Sheep Turkomans" after a few years.
It wasnt king George, he die of natural causes in 1407.. King Constantine of Georgia was killed in Chalagan battle 1412., while he was fighting with Qara Yusuf armies... Qara Yusuf also killed Timur son Miran Shah in 1408. in battle of Sardrud...
@Angus Yang No one in the era of the Umayyads could approach Baghdad except to die, and no one tried to do so throughout the period of the Umayyad rule. The Umayyads were not defeated in a battle other than the Battle of Toulouse (Poitiers), where the Christian army numbered 400 thousand and the Muslim army 50 thousand. For information, the caliph could have sent 300,000 fighters, but he did not do so because he was busy
No one in the era of the Umayyads could approach Baghdad except to die, and no one tried to do so throughout the period of the Umayyad rule. The Umayyads were not defeated in a battle other than the Battle of Toulouse (Poitiers), where the Christian army numbered 400 thousand and the Muslim army 50 thousand. For information, the caliph could have sent 300,000 fighters, but he did not do so because he was busy
@Berrak kısa Georgia didn’t lost Lori because of Armenia, in fact we were en route to invade Yerevan until the British came and solved the border dispute by making Lori a buffer neutral zone. And Armenia and Georgia were both new states fighting for independence and international recognition.
When sultan selim conquered Tabriz in 1514 he captured Timur’s grandson who lived there under safawi control but he treated him well telling him that the past remains in the past
Ottomans also helped another Timurid prince Babur by providing him with cannons and other gunpowder technology, which proved to be pivotal in Babur's invasion of India.
When I was a kid at school, I remember in history classes we have been learning about how much devastation (TimurLeng) brought on Georgia. It was terrifying stuff to read.. Our cronicals say that nobody has done as much harm to Georgia as TemurLeng did, and belive me, from ancient times, Georgia was almost always at war with one or another qouncurer/es..
I was born in Samarkand. I deeply regret that a disastrous war did happen between brother turkic nations. Timur was a genius commander, but as a person was cruel and blinded by his ambitions. Tanrı turkler vatan korusun
@Enkhbayar Dashjamts tons of rulers after alexander claimed to be descended from him. Timur married into genghis` line and claimed to be a mongol to gain legitimacy among mongol tribes. It's highly unlikely he was anything but uzbek. You're talking about a man who said anything to get his way.
@Enkhbayar Dashjamts those past Mongols have nothing in common with the present Mongols.Descendants Mongols past is the Kazakhs, Nogais, Uzbeks,Crimeans Tatars.Karakalpak and Hazara
@Enkhbayar Dashjamts Uzbeks are heirs both turkic and mongolian heritage. Also, mongolian heritage because of their turkicization within the territory.
@Anatolian Warrior who is that guy in your profile picture? is he muslim or tengrist? i think u will get ur answer. most turkic warriors styled themselves as "ghazis" which literally means islamic warriors. they had long forgotten about tengrism.
@Anatolian Warrior maybe u are seeing too much propaganda by ataturk. great horde also ruled russia they were muslims just like crimean khanate who helped them burn moscow in 1571.
@JY thats why World believes Chingiss Khan was most great person in World. Even after centuries after his death his descendants rule Asia. Khoshut Khanate,Dzungar Khanate, Four Oirats was their last glory.
@Abe Varis77 Ottoman empire was a muslim turkish empire with mostly islamic identity. Ottoman empires identity was mostly based on sunni islam. The turkish or turkic element didint play a big role since the ottomans saw themselfs as world conquerors and cosmopolitans. The turkish element was strong in the very beginning of the ottoman empire but after the empire grew and many non turks became subjects, the turkish element became insignificant. Only in the 19 century the ottoman empire transformed into a much more turkish one with turkish nationalist tendencies. Saying that the ottoman empire isnt turkish or turkic is as wrong as saying that the ottoman empire is a real turkic empire. It sure had turkish elements that became more and sometime less significant as times changed
@Maximos Wolfe In those times, becoming a vassal was the norm not the exception because it ensured survival. Vassals always bid their time and shook it off when given the opportunity. Wallachia, Bogdan and Transylvania were Ottoman vassals for centuries, paying a titular tax and providing armies in wars for example and later in late 19th century Wallachia and Bogdan broke off to become Romania. Judging people in retrospect is always easy.
Wow, Timur's tactical manuevering is on another level. It's like an expert boxer, dodging and weaving and then hit you with surprise hook. I wonder where did Timur got his military training and knowledge?
Great work, very precise and informative, thank you. (1) Timur, though a great warrior king, proved himself to be a ruiner rather than a builder, thus his vast empire survived a few decades after his death. (2) Timur's victory over Ottomans gave a relief of 20 years to the Christian west, and delayed the fall of Constantinople by about half a century. (3) The House of Othman learned well from the enormous setback at the hands of eastern kin peoples, and took great care in the coming centuries to keep the other Turkic tribes at bay. (4) Ottoman Sultan Mehmed I the Restorer, though reigned for eight years (1413-21), overcame the challenges of recovery and put the Ottoman State back in some shape. (5) The subsequent three able sultans, namely Murad II (1421-51), Mehmed II the Conqueror (1451-81) and Bayezid II (1481-1512) built back in 90 years the Ottoman State into an empire and a huge economic powerhouse. (6) It was Mehmed II who first decided to deal with the issue of "other Turks" in the east, defeating the Aqqoyunlus in 1474, then Selim I the Grim (1512-1520) defeating the Safavids in 1514, and exterminating the Mameluk State in 1516-17. In 1520, when Suleiman I the Magnificent (1520-1566) was crowned, he already inherited, and further expanded & consolidated, a vast empire and economy. Already in 1534, it is argued that the Ottoman Empire had the 3rd largest GDP in the world (after China and India), which remained so by 1730. Final comment: Serbs, as exemplified by Stefan Lazarovic, and Greeks provided great soldiers and statesmen to the Ottoman Empire for centuries. My fellow Turks would be angry with me, but I would still call the Ottoman Empire as a Turco-Serbo-Greek empire modeled on a fusion of Persian and Greco-Roman statehood (the predecessor Seljuk Empire was modeled mostly on the Persian statehood with some Greek administrative traditions in the latter half). Love from Ankara, Turkey.
@Rocket He does not say exactly here, he could not reach western Georgia, he entered once and lost so he did not enter a second time. 115 Georgians stopped the 200,000 armies that had taken India, and do not lie that it could conquer. We did not give up and survived. We Georgians do not have this example alone to destroy such large armies, otherwise I would not have written it.
He does not say exactly here, he could not reach western Georgia, he entered once and lost so he did not enter a second time. 115 Georgians stopped the 200,000 armies that had taken India, and do not lie that it could conquer. We did not give up and survived. We Georgians do not have this example alone to destroy such large armies, otherwise I would not have written it.
Actually the janissaries Fought till the end Bayezid Told stefan And his sons to retreat then bayezid and his guards fought till the end tho Stefan was loyal to bayezid
Great Video K&G!, One fact you neglected to mention was when Timur attacked Homs he did not sack Homs because of Khalid ibn Al Walid's mosque and the final resting place was there, whom he held in great regard as a brilliant military commander and former companion of the Prophet (PBUH).
Timur is a fascinating figure. Not as well known in the west (compared to Atilla or Ghenghis). But an extremely capable general and political leader. Especially when viewed in the time of being a counterpart to the Ottomans military successes. And the old war lord lived to a pretty good age for the time. Loved the video!
Something for you guys: In the old Ottoman books, Serbs called "Laz" in the same reason why Anatolian Turks called "ottomans". They are named after their king Lazar.
Secret heroes of this war is Serbian Knights and Stefan Lazaroviç. They have fought brave and show decent gallantry. When they see there is no way to win slowly retreat wisely too. Bayezid had also time to retreat safely but he was furious and enthusiastic. BTW video didn't mention but Timur was allied with local Turkish begs like Candarids, Karamanids against the Ottomans. And he never occupied Anatolia, left these locals.
@Septim beyazid,s own father was also killed by a serbian knight in the battle of kosovo and stefen,s sister was married to beyazid .beyazid did not took her forcfully
@Septim Well, as for killing his father Lazar, I guess that was not hard to handle since the satisfying fact was that we killed Bayezid's father too, and that was the first and the last time that Turkish sultan was killed in battle.
@Terry Bogars I am pretty sure that the same goes for every Western nations (they visit Turkey more than Russia), so we can safely conclude that all the Westerners would rather live in Turkey than in Russia...
I am writing a book and a part of this story is a battle where one side is at a number disadvantage but suddenly half of their adversaries betray their leader and join their side :D The Khanate betrayal is just a great example for my story :D
Nice job K&G like every other time :) And here are some trivia if you like: 1- Cubuk and Cataltepe is originally typed as Çubuk and Çataltepe in Turkish and pronunciation should be like Chubuk and Chataltepe. It has the same pronunciation with Canakkale (Chanakkale) the name of Gallipoli Campaign in Turkish. We say Gelibolu for Gallipoli but name the campaign as Çanakkale Cephesi (Canakkale Front). 2- It is believed that a preverb in Turkish that roughly translates as "Eat a big bite but never say big words" comes from this battle. The point is you can eat and ingest a big bite in the end even if it is hard to do but you simply can not eat your own words. We know the letters between Bayazid and Timur and you guys covered this before on the first video about this battle so he simply could not eat his own words and retreat from the battlefield until death or capture (which is found worse than death in that time) is near. 3- Up until this battle ottoman army consisted of the sultan and all of his sons. After the capture of sultan and some his sons along with him, firstly a tendency then a tradition of leaving a son behind in capital when sultan is campaigning has happened. Nearly Suleiman too was gonna be captured and with him all of the dynasty would be in hands of Timur. So they didnt risk it again in any future campaign. Great job and videos, wish you a nice day!
4:38 "According to Timurid sources, Timur sent an envoy to Aleppo 1399, but his messengers were killed". Once again, history repeats itself. Nomadic messengers always had it bad. The people who killed them had it even worse
Also its because in an important trade route so they have to stay weak always, but still we dont exactly why he raided Georgia that many times, maybe the georgians for example raided traders caravans or something, there should be an episode based on extensive research to explain why.
I think it has something to do with strategy, its a christian country in the middle of islamic world, saking it now and then to keep them weak always and not to be a launching area for other christian countrys or make alliences with them, thats what i think
@George dsouza I mean even if Islamic rulers beheaded Genghis' envoys, the Mongols were still cruel, they killed like more than 50% of the Muslim population
Timur was worst than Gengis Khan. Islamic rulers beheaded Gengis traders , so payed the price.Gengis was atleast religius tolerant man.Timur hated most of them , he was cruelest for idol worshipers and made skull towers.
Romans: "Hannibal at the gates". Ottomans: "Timur at the gates". It’s a similar story. A horrific defeat by a formidable foe and against all odds an overcome all the way to empire building.
@Waqar Saleem he didn't care for islam or the muslims , like many in history he used religion as a pretext for his warmongering . he killed millions of muslims and non muslims sacked and pillaged many muslims cities . he didn't wipe out anatolia so he can sack it again , he freed Bayezid sons and started a civil war that was going to crumble the ottoman empire
"The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand."-Sun Tzu
@Amando Dayo He made sure everything that could be under his control was. The strength of his army and its condition, the position of his army, and state of the enemy as much as he could.
Another awesome fast accurate production.Youre crew and their excellent work.The wargame maps make it so easy to remember when where. Youre all awesome.thank you again..been awhile
Timur was pretty impressed whit the Serbian cavalry and said something like who are those that fight like lions and it is said that because of that he relised Bayezids wife Olivera (who was Stefans youngest sister) and the rest of the Serbian lords whit no ransom.He had a role in the civil war that followed after. Stefan was one of our greatest leaders not only militarily but culturally as well, his story is a great one before and after this battle! Great episode, keep up the good work !
jutka What does it prove? Same suleiman killed his own son because of paranoia, to not lose throne to him. Ottomans FIRST forced migration was on Turcoman nomad tribes living in central anatolia, because they shared a common ancestor to seljucks and were legit opponents to be the new sultans of Rum... Do you still think that not only serbians but people of that era were considering “national pride” in their acts, They dont even care about their own children, thats monarchy, thats imperium!
@Lo Lo You must have watched the Suleyman series and know Malkochoglu Bali Bey. He was a very brave man. He is from the Serbian Malkoch family who had big lands and villages etc.His ancestors were fighting in the Battle of Kosovo in 1389 on the side of Sultan Murad. Later in the Battle of Nicopol and the Battle of Ankara. The Serbs always gave a helping hand to the Ottomans no matter what.
Dont waste your time guys, jutka is not avare of the fact that in medieval feudal ages “nationality” meant nothing in hierarchy and in the system. There are battles where arabs and crusaders together in the same army were fighting with another crusader army in those times. People like jutka simply has no enough space in brain to evaluate and era’s events in that era’s state of mind, there are millions like him in comments section
@Olivia’s channel "Many" Serbs? Can you define and quantify 'many'? How many regiments from Marko Mrnjavcevic? How many from brothers Dragas? Yes, there were Serbian regiments fighting in the Ottoman army, because it was their vassal obligation. Nothing wrong with that. There were Greeks fighting in the Ottoman army during siege of Constantinople...what does that prove except that there was a practice of vassal retinues in feudal armies? "Doing even more than what the Ottomans asked?" Can you elaborate on that? 'Does the truth hurt?' No. For ordinary person and for experts It is a matter of history - their war, not ours, for some others it is a subject of nationalistic drool over 'glorious' past which was never glorious to begin with. However, one should give credit where credit is due - bravery of knights at Nicopolis and Angora, no matter what side they fought for, just like the dedication of vassal to his word of honour and to his obligation. Nothing less, nothing more.
@Septim , In the Battle of Kosovo many Serbs were fighting in the ottoman Army. The sers were assisting the ottomans what ever they did for a good 400 years. Doing even more than what the ottomas asked them to do. Does the truth hurt?
It was also said that when Timur captured Bayezid he said him "The world is left all to a blind and a lame now?" (referring to bayezid's bad eyesight and his cripple leg)
I find it amazing that caltrops weren't always used against purely horse riding forces. They're some of the oldest war tech and could have been devastating for mounted troops who had little else to fall back on.
@G -13 what can I say I like productive discussions, you are free to read or interject as much as you want whenever you want , I don't have to give you permission for anything but please do read my comments fully if you want to have a discussion with me.
The reason Bayazid lost this battle could be the pride he had after winning consecutive battles, he wrote his name in Golden words describes him as thinking himself above any other ruler, but remember the greater ruler of the world is watching from the seventh sky.
Timur reminds me of Alexander the great in that they both couldnt settle they had to keep moving on and conquering and they were so successful at it and as soon as they died their empires fell apart.
Actually this battle was the end of Timur .He was very sad for his grandson's death on battlefield.But the ottomans rises more furiously. Respect to Stephen Lazar who was faithful to Bayezid till death instead he is Christian.
he was having bad dreams in his last nights due to which in his last night he used to held his sword and keep 2 3 guards in his tent .he was so restless in his last days but was proud on his victories
Altruistic Critique Now that's a dumb comparison. Several crusades took place between 1000 CE to 1600 CE. The number of people Crusaders killed, well, just for fun let's throw the Spanish inquisitions into it..don't hold candles to the numbers Timur killed. That guy wiped out 5% of world's population at the time.
Will your podcast series on the Mongols continue with the successor states of the mongol empire and with the invasions of tamerlane? Great work by the way
Great video! did serbian knights engage the elephants? in that case I think this battle is the only confrontation where European heavy cavalry came to fight against elephants...
When Timur saw Bayezid, he laughed. Bayezid, offended by this laugh, told Timur that it was indecent to laugh at misfortune; to which Timur replied: “It is clear then that fate does not value power and possession of vast lands if it distributes them to cripples: to you, the crooked, and to me, the lame.”
Once again an exemplary documentary! Minor error that can be fixed: the subtitles are briefly in disarray from 21:05 to 21:15. Also, the ''Don't kill the Mongol enjoy!'' running gag could have been better exploited at 4:37 for fans of the channel, but that's just a personal wish of mine. ;)
@AIM Investor Journal I was being rhetorical I understand Timur was way worse than rape of nanking or the burning of Hiroshima my answer was ment to be a counter to @jackwhite stripe .
@Ashik Shaikh I agree the Soviets made the Japanese situation hopeless but bombings were not some empty showman ship . It was carefully organized and did have it's psychological impact on the Japanese High command.
@Phoenix Legend yeah the japanese prefered to surrender to a newly invented bombardment rather than a military invasion...but the actual reason for the surrender were the soviets
@Ashik Shaikh true the Soviet invasion made the war hopeless according to the then japanese premiere kantaro Suzuki but it is also not wise to underestimate the psychological blow of the bombing remember a short while later the news of the bombing of Nagasaki made it clear that short of an unconditional surrender there won't be a japan inbetween the fire bombings and this new weapon . The possibility of USSR intervening at the behest of them died on August 9th 1945 when they invaded Manchuria.
Mehmed ii had 2 reasons to invade Trebizond, his ongoing proxies against Aq Qoyunlu (Trebizond were allies to Aq Qoyunlu) and his dream to claim legitimacy of roman emperor, when Crusaders sack Constantinople in 1204, East Roman empire survivors divided into 3 , Nicea, Epirus and Trebizond, Nicean is the one who restored the East roman empire, the one ottomans took out in 1453 in Constantinople, Epirus were defeated by nicean and destroyed by serbian, Trebizond is the last survivor remnants of Roman Empire, the last surviving romans nobility, the direct lineage since Emperor Augustus, the only one who can restore the Roman Empire.
when I was in school I read about the battle between Alexander the great and Raja Porus along the banks of river Jehlum. Alexanders's army faced elephants for the first time, probabbly, in the battle. But he ordered his men to wield double edged axes and cut elephants' knees and trunks. this ultimately lead to alexanders victory. Would love your take on this.
It is said in Ottoman war sources that (almost) no soldier fought, except for Serbs. I wish Turks and Serbs, two nations that dislike each other these days, knew about this war. If the Tatars had not betrayed, it could have been a much more enjoyable war. Note: From Turkey.
@Dejan/Дејан Kojić/Којић Maybe something should make us sympathetic. And that is the status of Serbia compared to other neighboring countries. Unlike them, Serbs kept their land, their laws and system in a whole. The others lost their lands and though their populations stayed there, they were under direct Ottoman rule, obeying their laws and fitting in their system. For that matter, maybe even more significant is what happened after the Battle of Ankara, meaning the Ottoman civil war. Both Serbs and Turks should be remembered that the key role in a key battle between Mehmed's and Musa's forces had Serbian cavalry again. After that victory, the new sultan Mehmed promised that he would not interfere with Serbia while he rules, out of gratitude for help against his brother. And he kept that promise, which allowed Serbia to thrive. That was a golden age for medieval Serbia, we should keep that in mind.
its not only Tatars that betrayed Eretnid armies, and many Turkish armies felt no reason to fight this war, a war of Ego's fighting fellow Turks and no jihad, thus either fled or joined Timur the clear stronger side.
I love Timur because he's like the Sauron of his day. He checks the box for the most stereotypical villain, he even has his "you have failed me for the last time" moments.
Ah yes what wonderful and joyous sights are razed cities and massacred innocent bodies, may I suggest that you also look into Adolf Hitler and Stalin. I think you will love them as much as Timur.
I see some Muslim proud that those Mongol converted to Islam but I think it is namesake as they remain brutal as usual.. They converted because of strengthening their political stance...Those mongol even had audacity to challenge Allah in battlefield if they could get chance. Though timur is brutal but his heir Sultan Shahrukh Mirza ruled peacefully until his death in 1447 and reconstructed most city destroyed by his father ushering new era of timurid renaissance which somehow rivalling Italian renaissance..
@c s That doesn't matter, that wasn't even your point to be specific, you said did any empire existed without its leaders compromising for faith, then yes it's Rashiduns. Now don't twist the topic.
It's insane to think that basically, a single guy (with a mighty army, but you get the idea) destroyed the brightest cities of his time and probably destroyed the demography and economy of Eurasia for like, 50 years. Everything he ever tried, he succeeded in. This guy had no fear, no mercy, no forgiveness. He would just do as he pleased.
You have to hand it to Timur. Like all great military commanders he was a master of miss-direction. And what he did prior to Ankara sure helps prove it. Side note: I would love to get that game. But I can't for reasons. Great video. my compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
i love this channel so much becauase they are making history about my culture and nation without any discrimination. THANKS ALOT. Best historical youtube channel ever !
I love the petty back and forth Timur and Bayezid. Who knew these seasoned conquerors ruling very large and powerful empires could correspond like school children.
Ottoman : siege Constantinople Timure: I destroy you ottoman And in the truth he almost destroy the ottoman Timure was really a brilliant military leader who come from nothing
@١٩٧٩ on the line You know i have been trying to learn russian , i got to say it is not easy as arabic , each verb has its own tense , but i like it . привет , у меня завут Зияд , я живёти в Мэкнэс я 20 лет . i can read but listen is hard to understand .
@Yousaf Daudzai No, discourses such as "If this were so, if this were so" have no place in the science of history. Everything is done and over So it is unreasonable to compare the abilities and skills of Commanders with such statements. Bayezid was defeated by Timur. Topic closed
Timur raided Georgia 8 times, but couldn't subjugate it! The amount of damage Georgia suffered in those years is unimaginable, population lost third of it, starvation rampaged through the country and crops were devastated for decade.
@Gul'dan thats a total lie do yuo know any commander that defeat timur or any seige which timur failed.althrough he was a very cruel and killer ruler and so brutal also but also as one of the few rulers which were never defeated
@Kings and Generals A video about the byzantine empire during their last years of their existance in high depth would be really nice. Especially constantine xi or giovanni giustiniani longo deserve his own video like skanderbeg for example
MAA RKK If Timur wanted to wipe out Georgians he could. It's pretty easy compared to Ottomans, The Mamlueks, The Delhian Sultanate, the Golden Horde, and even the great Yuan was afraid of him. So your quote about Timur not being able to take Georgia is cute 😂 but I like your passionate nationalism
@Gul'dan u know my foot Timur could destroy Georgia millions of times, a cute little country. All he wanted is submission, obedience, humbleness from every emperors of his time. Understand kid?
I hope you do the second episode of the early muslim conquests from Umar's conquests of Persia and Egypt till the rise of the Umayyad Caliphate.. that would be extremely educational
Bayezid, going from winning a great victory over the Europeans, to being crushed by Timur. Not a great turnaround. Then again, he was facing one of the greatest commanders of all time, so it's not surprising.
21:37 i disagree, i do think his legacy last, because even if incidental or not, he set the first stones for what would be the mughal empire. and i think that is a legacy that you can acredit to timur to a certain extend.
Beyazid and his Jannisaries fought bravely to the end.. Hours of fighting outnumbered Timurids enemies, He Was The King Of Nicopolis, Whole Europe Was Scared of His dreams and victories.. Respect...
Believe it or not, the next Ottoman script is finally ready. Rejoice, the fans of that series, we are entering the strangest era. This video is a remake of our older video on the battle of Ankara - we decided to make it to show the Timurid perspective. If you are interested in the events after this battle, this video explains the Ottoman civil war: kzclip.org/video/IUlp9U2p5_c/бейне.html and this one covers the rise of the Mughals: kzclip.org/video/ycv4gDXbm7s/бейне.html
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Make video of Sultan Murad Khan.
You have exaggerated to the point where we would never know the truth.
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@Paweł Jankowski I was hooked at the part where he razed Damascus and then after he left, here comes a plague of locusts! For me thats a sign of God
Another weird thing about this battle is the experience of Johann Schiltberger. Schiltberger was a German Crusader who had fought the Ottomans at the battle of Nicopolis, was captured by Bayezid, and then in turn was captured by the Timurids when the Ottomans were defeated at Ankara... Strangely enough though, he lived, returned home eventually, and wrote about his adventure.
@DomScatterbrain
High IQ of him
In war and peace Timur was very intelligent
Ruthless and bloodthirsty to make a point
Courteous and engaging with intelligentsia
@Subutay Noyan What do you mean? There are tons of personal accounts of history amidst Ottoman times
@wilson the conqueror Magelan(if that's how you spell his name) would travel the world less than 200 years later. Oswald von Wolkenstein a diplomat and an outstanding music composer (seriously look up his songs) traveled most of Europe and made it as far as Georgia as referenced in his song "Durch Barbarei Arabia".
That's not strange and it really fits Timur's true nature to spare him. Timur may see him as a historian and he was released to tell write the story. Just like when Timur spared ibn Khaldun, knowing that ibn Khaldun is actually a scholar rather than a commander.
damn christ that so cool
You really have to admire Stefan's loyalty. Bayezid was a foreign overlord who did not speak Stefan's language, he did not share Stefan's religion. Half of the Sultan's army had already defected to the enemy, Stefan could have taken his men and fled, he could have left Bayezid to his fate and instead retreated home to assert his independence. Instead, Stefan fought his way through hordes of Timurids to save his Sultan. He refused to retreat without his commander. Whatever bad blood exists between Serbs and Turks, I think both Serbs and Turks can agree that Stefan really embodied the virtues of chivalry, courage and honour.
Great observation indeed. In a time where treason during battles were all too common, Stefan's stand is an epitaph to his honor and bravery. No one, and I mean no one would or could blame him should he have defected / ran from the field of battle.
Yet, he fought until the end. A paragon of virtue, an example to all.
Stefan tried to ransom back his sister Despina who was Bayezid wife (Stefan and Bayezid were brother in laws) Timur refused, but said "the Serbs fight like lions" sources say the she became a nun? After Timur's death
Stefan was his brother in law and Uncle of his children!
In some extend he has to. There was no other option for him.
On the other hand we have to accept Serbian wing's courage in the war. Even Timur admired them.
whenever timur starts a campaign, i wait for the narrator to say "he raided georgia"
Warm up on Georgia 😢
😂😂
Niyə demirsiniz ki, o vaxt ki, azəri İbrahim Xəlilullah xan adlı birisinin sayəsində Teymur Azərbaycana hücum etməyi vaz keçdi?
@Hayabusa Hanabi is there something funny slaughtering thousands of people? Son of devil was he and be proud to be of his generation
William Tecumseh Sherman and Timur-banes of Georgia
Fun fact: All Turkic tribes betrayed Ottoman Sultan whereas Serbian Prince remained loyal.
@Miguel Perez True
@Emre Canik But also the Serbians preferred Ottoman protect rather in the hands of Catholic kingdoms like Hungary, Venice, and Austria.
@Michael Ralte this change of culture may be confusing to settled people but for the adventurous like the Rus/Normans/Mongols/Huns/Magyars etc changing cultures was the norm
@Random Guy So Americans are nomads... Makes sense
@Dusan Stankovic the serbs were pretty much running the empire. Beyazıt was half Greek orthodox and wasn't very fond of the turkic people but used them as cannon fodder then sent in the Serbian knights in black armour to finish off the enemy with shock and awe. Mehmet took Constantinople in 1453 with those tactics and it was the Serbian knights who entered the fortress first and did their business.
Constantinople: Here's a gift, please don't attack us.
Timur: Ok, thanks.
Trezibond: Here's a gift, please don't attack us.
Timur: Ok, thanks.
Georgia: Here's a gift, please don't attack us.
Timur: ...How cute.
Trebizond"
M. A هو ليس مسلما لان هذه الصفات لا تمس للإسلام ابدا هو أستخدم الإسلام وسيله لتحقيق أهدافه فقط هو مجرد مجرم حفيد ياجوج وماجوج
@Mohammed Yassine If his head cutting antics are not propaganda, Timur was a despicable human being.
Ottomans: Nothing to do? Siege Constantinople!
Timur: Nothing to do? Invade Georgia!
@FF!
Yes
@aleko burnadze bruh you think Timur cared what religion they practiced? Lmao
Bayezid: writes his own name with big golden letters and Timur's name with Comic Sans.
Timur: (inhales) ...(exhales)... Now you've done it.
if you search you see beyazid use bad speech swear him, but timur reply kindly, so result is above video.
ebdo?
Trash talked before it became mainstream)))
That letter exchange is the equivalent of 2020 twitter discussion.
Then it got personal
Timur's body rests in the Gur-e-Amir Mausoleum in Uzbekistan. His epitaph of dark nephrite jade can be found in two very interesting lines:
"When I rise from the dead, the world will tremble."
"Whoever disturbs my grave will unleash an invader more terrible than me."
The second is interesting since a team of Soviet scientists led by Mikhail M. Gerasimov, took out the remains of Timur to evaluate them. The established day for the extraction was June 19, 1941.
Two days later Nazi Germany began Operation Barbarossa, the invasion of the Soviet Union.
Timur's body was returned to his grave with a Muslim religious ceremony on December 20, 1942. Three days later, the German high command decided to abandon the attempts to free the Sixth Army trapped in Stalingrad, leaving them to their fate. They surrendered on February 2, 1943, marking a turning point in the course of the second world war.
This is referred to as the "Curse of Timur".
Thanks K&G for this great documentary.
Watch the movie "The Shadow" with Alec Baldwin. There Timur rises in early 20th century and The Shadow have to stop him.
Very cool and underrated comics hero movie. The Shadow is inspiration for Batman.
@داعس على رأس الاسد من الجد إلى الولد 5 Battles*
@Hilmi Prabowo Yeah, that won't happen.
@GuderII whent t was open by sovet union after 1 week world war 2 start
Imagine trash talking with a guy that single handedly killed off 5% of the World population.
@Hussain umair They survived but they lost most of what Timure conqured
bro imagine being a coward and leave the battle before facing him it were the chrisitians which remained with bayezid what if he had his full army timur was gay ngl attacked while bayezid was already invading constatinople
@amjad khan are u ok timurs empire went on to survive very long and in 1526 his Great grandson part of the royal timurid family conquered India and moved the timurids there . Read history bro ever heard of the mughals
Americans taking Baghdad: "we need that oil"
Hulagu taking Baghdad: "how dare they not take me seriously"
Timur taking Baghdad: "I just want my skull towers"
@ابو سليمان السلفي The Ummayad army numbered 20,000-25,000 men, while the Frankish army numbered 15,000-20,000 men. I do not know how you have come up with those numbers, Abu Sulayman.
@Shaquille Priata And in practice aswell.
No one in the era of the Umayyads could approach Baghdad except to die, and no one tried to do so throughout the period of the Umayyad rule. The Umayyads were not defeated in a battle other than the Battle of Toulouse (Poitiers), where the Christian army numbered 400 thousand and the Muslim army 50 thousand. For information, the caliph could have sent 300,000 fighters, but he did not do so because he was busy
@Shaquille Priata read history first
lOl :D turkic power
"Sir, we can win this war without attacking Georgia"
Timur: No, you cannot.
(In Jorgen von Strangle voice): I LIKE to sack the Georgia!!!
It was like his only opportunity to kill non-muslims which is ironic for someone named A warrior of Islam
Boris Erdogan what do you mean fresh supplies? This video hasn’t spoke about the specifics of the invasions and just oversimplified them but Timur lost a lot of soldiers on his part in all 8 invasions.
"Maybe, but I insist that we attack Georgia, on the grounds that I want to."
I am a Türk and have deep respect for the Serbians. Orthodox Chrsitians in general were very honourable.
And I do not get why Timur is loved by so many. He was cruel and brutal.
@Muzaffer Bulut he was a turko-mongol essentially a turkicized mongol group. At this time, many mongols have turkified, persianified a century after in the golden horde
@Shevek timur was a mongol by race. Barlas is a turko mongolic tribe. Meaning mongolians who settled in turkey. Lol
Timur was pure turk not like mixed race ottoman.
@teuku fadel he was greatest Turkic conqueror of all time. He also killed many buddhists and tengrists in eastern chagatai khanate and delhi
In retrospect, Baghdad doesn't seem to be a particularly lucky city.
Definitely luckier than Georgia.
Baghdad was the light house for the world under Muslims then the mogul came and after that Baghdad couldn’t be the same again .. dark history
@Edgar Anaya Excuse me, I don't want the rubble with a brainwashed, hybrid person
Baghdad unlucky ? What about Aleppo ? Every warlord that could scape 10 troopers together automatically seems to attack Aleppo and if he has 12 in his army he can sack it !
@Adam snow THEY GIVE BAGDAND AND DEMASCS TWICE AT LEAST IN HISTORY
HOW WOULD THEY DEFEND PALESTINE??
We should pay respect for the janissaries and Serbian warriors of Stefan they fought like lions
us Croats killed them both for 500 years and stopped Ottomans in their tracks 🇭🇷 🇭🇷 🇭🇷 🇭🇷 🇭🇷
@N N whats so funny about facts?
@Daz King Tomislav? Hahaha, you wish 🤣🤣🤣
@Daz
Amen
The atrocities that Timur commited is overwhelming even for the time
For returning the glory of the Mongol
John Wayne Except timur killed millions just because he wanted, just for the sakes of cruelty, he wouldn't gain any strategical advantage by massacring baghdad or any other city, most of the time in wars violence is not the end, but the means, while for Timur conquest was the mean and violence was the end
John Wayne Guaranteeing their hegemony, maintaining their country's superpower status, I'm not american, european, russian, chinese, etc, but I totally understand these coutries actions, I understand why the russians invaded crimea, and if I was russian I would think they have the right to do it, I understand why america keeps their troops in the middle east, I understand why china wants to expand it's territory in south china sea, they are not right, but they are not wrong also, they are simply enforcing their will
Ivaiyo Ivanov That's the thing, it took 5 centuries for the ottoman empire to reach timur level, the armenian genocide is the most infamous example but timur killed around 20 million people in a spam of 35 years, that's a stalin level of genocide, and we're talking about something that happened more than 600 years ago
John Wayne You're seriously comparing a guy who says shit in twitter and a medieval rules who kills millions, order his soldiers to make dozens of piramids with the skulls of innocent citizens and brutally kills almost every single prisoner he gets?
Georgian here. There's a village in Georgia called "Mdzovreti" which literally means "corpse-land" - thanks to Timur..
Also, King Giorgi VII actually outlived Timur after 8(!) destructive invasions only to die in a battle against "Black Sheep Turkomans" after a few years.
@Ennui Yes
Thanks to me 😂😂😂
@Alan Ford both kings died in battles.
It wasnt king George, he die of natural causes in 1407.. King Constantine of Georgia was killed in Chalagan battle 1412., while he was fighting with Qara Yusuf armies... Qara Yusuf also killed Timur son Miran Shah in 1408. in battle of Sardrud...
@Ennui Кара ку́йунлу или Ак Ку́йунлу не означает овца. Значения совсем другое
Take a shot every time sultan Ahmad flees bagdad
@ابو سليمان السلفي There was no Baghdad during Umayyad rule what are you talking about
@Angus Yang No one in the era of the Umayyads could approach Baghdad except to die, and no one tried to do so throughout the period of the Umayyad rule. The Umayyads were not defeated in a battle other than the Battle of Toulouse (Poitiers), where the Christian army numbered 400 thousand and the Muslim army 50 thousand. For information, the caliph could have sent 300,000 fighters, but he did not do so because he was busy
No one in the era of the Umayyads could approach Baghdad except to die, and no one tried to do so throughout the period of the Umayyad rule. The Umayyads were not defeated in a battle other than the Battle of Toulouse (Poitiers), where the Christian army numbered 400 thousand and the Muslim army 50 thousand. For information, the caliph could have sent 300,000 fighters, but he did not do so because he was busy
Lol they kept moving ...seemed like fun thing people at that time did
The man who posted this is no more
Poor Georgia, Timur's punching bag. Imagine sending someone a gift and then suddenly having them appear on your land and burn everything you have 😂😂😂
@Faizan raza 200.000 seljuks were defeated against 115 Georgian APU soldiers
@Faizan raza More like Arrowguns at the Robin Hood 2018:)
@Yılmaz İrden Yazıcı 😂😂😂115 against 200000 I think they had machine guns at that time😂😂
@Berrak kısa Georgia didn’t lost Lori because of Armenia, in fact we were en route to invade Yerevan until the British came and solved the border dispute by making Lori a buffer neutral zone. And Armenia and Georgia were both new states fighting for independence and international recognition.
@1121, BEST YEAR OF MY LIFE !!! You lost lori to armenians bro(they were nothing but a fake state at this time)
When sultan selim conquered Tabriz in 1514 he captured Timur’s grandson who lived there under safawi control but he treated him well telling him that the past remains in the past
@Crafty Unicorn No it is not right, Babur took gunpover and artillery from Safavids
Ottomans also helped another Timurid prince Babur by providing him with cannons and other gunpowder technology, which proved to be pivotal in Babur's invasion of India.
Was that Babur?
Huhh whenn
When I was a kid at school, I remember in history classes we have been learning about how much devastation (TimurLeng) brought on Georgia. It was terrifying stuff to read.. Our cronicals say that nobody has done as much harm to Georgia as TemurLeng did, and belive me, from ancient times, Georgia was almost always at war with one or another qouncurer/es..
Youch. All the centuries since and Timur is still unmatched?
When anatholian and tatars betray ottoman family and Serbian cavalry saved ottoman dynasty was a precious BRUH MOMENTUM
Lol
@Abhi 739what do you expect he belongs to a blood line which shares DNA with the borjigin clan of genghis khan its in the blood.
@Nick Strife Vlad tepes went wrong for the poor Christian Saxons, not the Ottomans.
Even if they didn't betray timur wud have won
@Don't search Documenting Reality yeah and his brother was the serbian patriarch originating from Piva in montenegro 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I was born in Samarkand. I deeply regret that a disastrous war did happen between brother turkic nations. Timur was a genius commander, but as a person was cruel and blinded by his ambitions. Tanrı turkler vatan korusun
@Enkhbayar Dashjamts tons of rulers after alexander claimed to be descended from him. Timur married into genghis` line and claimed to be a mongol to gain legitimacy among mongol tribes. It's highly unlikely he was anything but uzbek. You're talking about a man who said anything to get his way.
EXTRA LARGE 😂😂😂😂😂
EXTRA LARGE 😂😂😂😂
@Enkhbayar Dashjamts those past Mongols have nothing in common with the present Mongols.Descendants Mongols past is the Kazakhs, Nogais, Uzbeks,Crimeans Tatars.Karakalpak and Hazara
@Enkhbayar Dashjamts Uzbeks are heirs both turkic and mongolian heritage. Also, mongolian heritage because of their turkicization within the territory.
Delhi sultanate : Finally Timur is ded ! no more invasion of turks
Babur : SALAM !
@Anatolian Warrior who is that guy in your profile picture? is he muslim or tengrist? i think u will get ur answer. most turkic warriors styled themselves as "ghazis" which literally means islamic warriors. they had long forgotten about tengrism.
@Anatolian Warrior maybe u are seeing too much propaganda by ataturk. great horde also ruled russia they were muslims just like crimean khanate who helped them burn moscow in 1571.
@Anatolian Warrior actually after golden horde was muslim but got conquered
@JY thats why World believes Chingiss Khan was most great person in World. Even after centuries after his death his descendants rule Asia. Khoshut Khanate,Dzungar Khanate, Four Oirats was their last glory.
In the end, Serbs proved more gallant and loyal than the treacherous Tartars...Respect for Serbian honor 👍
@Abe Varis77 Ottoman empire was a muslim turkish empire with mostly islamic identity. Ottoman empires identity was mostly based on sunni islam. The turkish or turkic element didint play a big role since the ottomans saw themselfs as world conquerors and cosmopolitans. The turkish element was strong in the very beginning of the ottoman empire but after the empire grew and many non turks became subjects, the turkish element became insignificant. Only in the 19 century the ottoman empire transformed into a much more turkish one with turkish nationalist tendencies. Saying that the ottoman empire isnt turkish or turkic is as wrong as saying that the ottoman empire is a real turkic empire. It sure had turkish elements that became more and sometime less significant as times changed
@Maximos Wolfe In those times, becoming a vassal was the norm not the exception because it ensured survival.
Vassals always bid their time and shook it off when given the opportunity. Wallachia, Bogdan and Transylvania were Ottoman vassals for centuries, paying a titular tax and providing armies in wars for example and later in late 19th century Wallachia and Bogdan broke off to become Romania. Judging people in retrospect is always easy.
Lazarevič was a knight...
Where knights "owe" and "obey it"…
Timur: Babe, it's campaign season. Time to raid you.
Georgia: Yes, Timur...
timur: yes, babe im coming again take this!
Wow, Timur's tactical manuevering is on another level. It's like an expert boxer, dodging and weaving and then hit you with surprise hook.
I wonder where did Timur got his military training and knowledge?
Great work, very precise and informative, thank you. (1) Timur, though a great warrior king, proved himself to be a ruiner rather than a builder, thus his vast empire survived a few decades after his death. (2) Timur's victory over Ottomans gave a relief of 20 years to the Christian west, and delayed the fall of Constantinople by about half a century. (3) The House of Othman learned well from the enormous setback at the hands of eastern kin peoples, and took great care in the coming centuries to keep the other Turkic tribes at bay. (4) Ottoman Sultan Mehmed I the Restorer, though reigned for eight years (1413-21), overcame the challenges of recovery and put the Ottoman State back in some shape. (5) The subsequent three able sultans, namely Murad II (1421-51), Mehmed II the Conqueror (1451-81) and Bayezid II (1481-1512) built back in 90 years the Ottoman State into an empire and a huge economic powerhouse. (6) It was Mehmed II who first decided to deal with the issue of "other Turks" in the east, defeating the Aqqoyunlus in 1474, then Selim I the Grim (1512-1520) defeating the Safavids in 1514, and exterminating the Mameluk State in 1516-17. In 1520, when Suleiman I the Magnificent (1520-1566) was crowned, he already inherited, and further expanded & consolidated, a vast empire and economy. Already in 1534, it is argued that the Ottoman Empire had the 3rd largest GDP in the world (after China and India), which remained so by 1730. Final comment: Serbs, as exemplified by Stefan Lazarovic, and Greeks provided great soldiers and statesmen to the Ottoman Empire for centuries. My fellow Turks would be angry with me, but I would still call the Ottoman Empire as a Turco-Serbo-Greek empire modeled on a fusion of Persian and Greco-Roman statehood (the predecessor Seljuk Empire was modeled mostly on the Persian statehood with some Greek administrative traditions in the latter half). Love from Ankara, Turkey.
Reading this comment from Odtu Ankara
Georgia's history can be basically summoned into quote "Ah shit, here we go again"
Its due to the geographic location. armenians had it even worse. They were always subjugated to persians and turks
@Arthur Arstamyan programmer 👨💻 not true bro
@Giorgi MI6 Keladze wtf ottomans had georgia for many years if they wanted to convert you then they easily couldve but they didnt
@Adam Volný Answer to How did Armenia and Georgia not convert to Islam, despite centuries of occupation? by Irene Ols
@I like turtles If you're referring to the Vikings in Georgia, yes, they were hired as mercenaries. Got fucked by the Heavy Cataphracts though.
Georgia *exists*
Timur: What a nice land you have, it would be a shame if... someone pillaged it
@Gul'dan How does that even happen?
@Rocket He does not say exactly here, he could not reach western Georgia, he entered once and lost so he did not enter a second time. 115 Georgians stopped the 200,000 armies that had taken India, and do not lie that it could conquer. We did not give up and survived. We Georgians do not have this example alone to destroy such large armies, otherwise I would not have written it.
He does not say exactly here, he could not reach western Georgia, he entered once and lost so he did not enter a second time. 115 Georgians stopped the 200,000 armies that had taken India, and do not lie that it could conquer. We did not give up and survived. We Georgians do not have this example alone to destroy such large armies, otherwise I would not have written it.
Okay, that was a great Oversimplified reference !!!
@average person kinky
In Damascus: Well, they may have sacked our city but it can only get better..... (Locusts Noises)
@Hasib Khan Am Just Stating Facts Why You're Asking ?
@Buster $eagal then what u want to prove by saying arabs have mongol dna?
@Hasib Khan No am not a christian am not even an arab ...
I think you mean (Cricket Noises)
La'nat on Taimur.. Tamerlane
He destroyed Muslim World after Mongol
Huge respect for the loyal and courageous Serbs in this battle! They fought like real man until the very end👏🏻👍🏻🇷🇸
Actually the janissaries Fought till the end Bayezid Told stefan And his sons to retreat then bayezid and his guards fought till the end tho Stefan was loyal to bayezid
Great Video K&G!, One fact you neglected to mention was when Timur attacked Homs he did not sack Homs because of Khalid ibn Al Walid's mosque and the final resting place was there, whom he held in great regard as a brilliant military commander and former companion of the Prophet (PBUH).
@١٩٧٩ on the line Don't be ridiculous dude. Timur was worse than what was normal at the time.
Because he is respect khalid
would that make him less evil ?
Timur is a fascinating figure. Not as well known in the west (compared to Atilla or Ghenghis). But an extremely capable general and political leader. Especially when viewed in the time of being a counterpart to the Ottomans military successes. And the old war lord lived to a pretty good age for the time. Loved the video!
@G -13 Ottomans were outplayed before the campaign even began (they were completely out of water by the time they returned to Ankara)
Pretty sure ottomans would've won if not betrayed
Something for you guys: In the old Ottoman books, Serbs called "Laz" in the same reason why Anatolian Turks called "ottomans". They are named after their king Lazar.
Osman dinasty
Secret heroes of this war is Serbian Knights and Stefan Lazaroviç. They have fought brave and show decent gallantry. When they see there is no way to win slowly retreat wisely too. Bayezid had also time to retreat safely but he was furious and enthusiastic.
BTW video didn't mention but Timur was allied with local Turkish begs like Candarids, Karamanids against the Ottomans. And he never occupied Anatolia, left these locals.
The Serbs fought Bravely Bayezid was lucky to have them on his side
@Septim beyazid,s own father was also killed by a serbian knight in the battle of kosovo and stefen,s sister was married to beyazid .beyazid did not took her forcfully
@SharpLight Totaly agree
@Septim Well, as for killing his father Lazar, I guess that was not hard to handle since the satisfying fact was that we killed Bayezid's father too, and that was the first and the last time that Turkish sultan was killed in battle.
@Terry Bogars I am pretty sure that the same goes for every Western nations (they visit Turkey more than Russia), so we can safely conclude that all the Westerners would rather live in Turkey than in Russia...
Awesome, please don't let the other Timurid battles go, its a nice path of the Timurid history!
No matter where Timur is heading, it always seems like Georgia is on the way
Georgia was on his mind.
Here is a fun fact for you guys. The airport of Ankara which is called Esenboğa named after one of the generals of Timur.
I am writing a book and a part of this story is a battle where one side is at a number disadvantage but suddenly half of their adversaries betray their leader and join their side :D The Khanate betrayal is just a great example for my story :D
@Kings and Generals The most interesting battle that I was inspired by was your amazingly done Battle of Grunwald
Good luck! Don't forget to take a look at the battle of Sekigahara in 1600 - it has similar betrayals.
Nice job K&G like every other time :) And here are some trivia if you like:
1- Cubuk and Cataltepe is originally typed as Çubuk and Çataltepe in Turkish and pronunciation should be like Chubuk and Chataltepe. It has the same pronunciation with Canakkale (Chanakkale) the name of Gallipoli Campaign in Turkish. We say Gelibolu for Gallipoli but name the campaign as Çanakkale Cephesi (Canakkale Front).
2- It is believed that a preverb in Turkish that roughly translates as "Eat a big bite but never say big words" comes from this battle. The point is you can eat and ingest a big bite in the end even if it is hard to do but you simply can not eat your own words. We know the letters between Bayazid and Timur and you guys covered this before on the first video about this battle so he simply could not eat his own words and retreat from the battlefield until death or capture (which is found worse than death in that time) is near.
3- Up until this battle ottoman army consisted of the sultan and all of his sons. After the capture of sultan and some his sons along with him, firstly a tendency then a tradition of leaving a son behind in capital when sultan is campaigning has happened. Nearly Suleiman too was gonna be captured and with him all of the dynasty would be in hands of Timur. So they didnt risk it again in any future campaign.
Great job and videos, wish you a nice day!
4:38 "According to Timurid sources, Timur sent an envoy to Aleppo 1399, but his messengers were killed".
Once again, history repeats itself. Nomadic messengers always had it bad. The people who killed them had it even worse
Just WOW ! Reading about these events and then to see it animated in such quality is amazing. THANK YOU K.A.G. !!!
You should really do Basil the second. Really interested how he defeated all the enemies and won back the empire
@Ognyan Petrov someone is feisty!
Basil first has more interesting rise to power though
BASIL THE BULGARSLAYEEEEEER!
His gay lover was killed by tsar Samuel's son and in his rage blinded 15 000 Bulgarians
Aleksa Petrovic yup sure he did
F in the chat for King Samuel
Seriously, what did Timur have against Georgia? He invaded them for giving him gifts!
@Haitham Aboriash Bro, he made skull tower out of muslims citizens. This isn't religious, no way.
Also its because in an important trade route so they have to stay weak always, but still we dont exactly why he raided Georgia that many times, maybe the georgians for example raided traders caravans or something, there should be an episode based on extensive research to explain why.
I think it has something to do with strategy, its a christian country in the middle of islamic world, saking it now and then to keep them weak always and not to be a launching area for other christian countrys or make alliences with them, thats what i think
@George dsouza I mean even if Islamic rulers beheaded Genghis' envoys, the Mongols were still cruel, they killed like more than 50% of the Muslim population
Timur was worst than Gengis Khan. Islamic rulers beheaded Gengis traders , so payed the price.Gengis was atleast religius tolerant man.Timur hated most of them , he was cruelest for idol worshipers and made skull towers.
Romans: "Hannibal at the gates". Ottomans: "Timur at the gates". It’s a similar story. A horrific defeat by a formidable foe and against all odds an overcome all the way to empire building.
@Waqar Saleem he didn't care for islam or the muslims , like many in history he used religion as a pretext for his warmongering . he killed millions of muslims and non muslims sacked and pillaged many muslims cities . he didn't wipe out anatolia so he can sack it again , he freed Bayezid sons and started a civil war that was going to crumble the ottoman empire
and elephants.
Respect for Miran Shah in the comments, the only guy whose behaviour even Timur considered to be erratic 🙏
Serbian Prince was very close friend of The Sultan Bayezid, so it's not actually suprising that he insisted to leave the battlefield.
"The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand."-Sun Tzu
@Amando Dayo He made sure everything that could be under his control was. The strength of his army and its condition, the position of his army, and state of the enemy as much as he could.
Another awesome fast accurate production.Youre crew and their excellent work.The wargame maps
make it so easy to remember when where. Youre all awesome.thank you again..been awhile
Timur was pretty impressed whit the Serbian cavalry and said something like who are those that fight like lions and it is said that because of that he relised Bayezids wife Olivera (who was Stefans youngest sister) and the rest of the Serbian lords whit no ransom.He had a role in the civil war that followed after.
Stefan was one of our greatest leaders not only militarily but culturally as well, his story is a great one before and after this battle! Great episode, keep up the good work !
jutka What does it prove? Same suleiman killed his own son because of paranoia, to not lose throne to him. Ottomans FIRST forced migration was on Turcoman nomad tribes living in central anatolia, because they shared a common ancestor to seljucks and were legit opponents to be the new sultans of Rum... Do you still think that not only serbians but people of that era were considering “national pride” in their acts, They dont even care about their own children, thats monarchy, thats imperium!
@Lo Lo You must have watched the Suleyman series and know Malkochoglu Bali Bey. He was a very brave man. He is from the Serbian Malkoch family who had big lands and villages etc.His ancestors were fighting in the Battle of Kosovo in 1389 on the side of Sultan Murad. Later in the Battle of Nicopol and the Battle of Ankara. The Serbs always gave a helping hand to the Ottomans no matter what.
Dont waste your time guys, jutka is not avare of the fact that in medieval feudal ages “nationality” meant nothing in hierarchy and in the system. There are battles where arabs and crusaders together in the same army were fighting with another crusader army in those times. People like jutka simply has no enough space in brain to evaluate and era’s events in that era’s state of mind, there are millions like him in comments section
@Olivia’s channel "Many" Serbs? Can you define and quantify 'many'? How many regiments from Marko Mrnjavcevic? How many from brothers Dragas? Yes, there were Serbian regiments fighting in the Ottoman army, because it was their vassal obligation. Nothing wrong with that. There were Greeks fighting in the Ottoman army during siege of Constantinople...what does that prove except that there was a practice of vassal retinues in feudal armies? "Doing even more than what the Ottomans asked?" Can you elaborate on that? 'Does the truth hurt?' No. For ordinary person and for experts It is a matter of history - their war, not ours, for some others it is a subject of nationalistic drool over 'glorious' past which was never glorious to begin with. However, one should give credit where credit is due - bravery of knights at Nicopolis and Angora, no matter what side they fought for, just like the dedication of vassal to his word of honour and to his obligation. Nothing less, nothing more.
@Septim , In the Battle of Kosovo many Serbs were fighting in the ottoman Army.
The sers were assisting the ottomans what ever they did for a good 400 years.
Doing even more than what the ottomas asked them to do.
Does the truth hurt?
It was also said that when Timur captured Bayezid he said him "The world is left all to a blind and a lame now?" (referring to bayezid's bad eyesight and his cripple leg)
I find it amazing that caltrops weren't always used against purely horse riding forces. They're some of the oldest war tech and could have been devastating for mounted troops who had little else to fall back on.
Damn proud to be Serbian❤️🇷🇸
@Ikmuzun _ if they took so "many" kids why was and still is the majority in serbia christian?
@G -13 what can I say I like productive discussions, you are free to read or interject as much as you want whenever you want , I don't have to give you permission for anything but please do read my comments fully if you want to have a discussion with me.
@Phoenix Legend how do u guys have so much time to argue? I didn't even read ur whole text
So evil yet so cunning. His tales sounds almost like a fable.
people would probably think hes a bad villian of how unrealistically evil and intelligent he is
The reason Bayazid lost this battle could be the pride he had after winning consecutive battles, he wrote his name in Golden words describes him as thinking himself above any other ruler, but remember the greater ruler of the world is watching from the seventh sky.
Timur reminds me of Alexander the great in that they both couldnt settle they had to keep moving on and conquering and they were so successful at it and as soon as they died their empires fell apart.
Actually this battle was the end of Timur .He was very sad for his grandson's death on battlefield.But the ottomans rises more furiously.
Respect to Stephen Lazar who was faithful to Bayezid till death instead he is Christian.
Such a horrific person is Timur. How can he sleep doing so much horrific things
he was having bad dreams in his last nights due to which in his last night he used to held his sword and keep 2 3 guards in his tent .he was so restless in his last days but was proud on his victories
In India he killed 100000 In one hour
Well endless skull towers of his enemies helped him to sleep well and their wives, mistress, daughters too
He is a Turcoman-Mongol mixed war lord 😍🥰❤️
Altruistic Critique Now that's a dumb comparison. Several crusades took place between 1000 CE to 1600 CE. The number of people Crusaders killed, well, just for fun let's throw the Spanish inquisitions into it..don't hold candles to the numbers Timur killed. That guy wiped out 5% of world's population at the time.
Will your podcast series on the Mongols continue with the successor states of the mongol empire and with the invasions of tamerlane? Great work by the way
Great video! did serbian knights engage the elephants?
in that case I think this battle is the only confrontation where European heavy cavalry came to fight against elephants...
Great video guys! Truly an inspiration to me and many out here on KZclip!
One of my favorite channel and commentator here ❤
Thank you for the last Bayezid ii video, the only problem it was too short
@Baikal I never miss a K&G video! :)
When Timur saw Bayezid, he laughed. Bayezid, offended by this laugh, told Timur that it was indecent to laugh at misfortune; to which Timur replied: “It is clear then that fate does not value power and possession of vast lands if it distributes them to cripples: to you, the crooked, and to me, the lame.”
Once again an exemplary documentary! Minor error that can be fixed: the subtitles are briefly in disarray from 21:05 to 21:15.
Also, the ''Don't kill the Mongol enjoy!'' running gag could have been better exploited at 4:37 for fans of the channel, but that's just a personal wish of mine. ;)
Lesson learned: Trash talking the guy who makes mountains of skulls and killed 5% of the earth's then population is probably not the best option.
@AIM Investor Journal I was being rhetorical I understand Timur was way worse than rape of nanking or the burning of Hiroshima my answer was ment to be a counter to @jackwhite stripe .
@Ashik Shaikh I agree the Soviets made the Japanese situation hopeless but bombings were not some empty showman ship . It was carefully organized and did have it's psychological impact on the Japanese High command.
@Phoenix Legend yeah the japanese prefered to surrender to a newly invented bombardment rather than a military invasion...but the actual reason for the surrender were the soviets
@Ashik Shaikh true the Soviet invasion made the war hopeless according to the then japanese premiere kantaro Suzuki but it is also not wise to underestimate the psychological blow of the bombing remember a short while later the news of the bombing of Nagasaki made it clear that short of an unconditional surrender there won't be a japan inbetween the fire bombings and this new weapon . The possibility of USSR intervening at the behest of them died on August 9th 1945 when they invaded Manchuria.
Trabzond watching all this in Horror, not breathing and not moving to not provoke any side. Georgia moved again :'D
Mehmed ii had 2 reasons to invade Trebizond, his ongoing proxies against Aq Qoyunlu (Trebizond were allies to Aq Qoyunlu) and his dream to claim legitimacy of roman emperor, when Crusaders sack Constantinople in 1204, East Roman empire survivors divided into 3 , Nicea, Epirus and Trebizond, Nicean is the one who restored the East roman empire, the one ottomans took out in 1453 in Constantinople, Epirus were defeated by nicean and destroyed by serbian, Trebizond is the last survivor remnants of Roman Empire, the last surviving romans nobility, the direct lineage since Emperor Augustus, the only one who can restore the Roman Empire.
While reading ur comment i imagine trabzond and georgia as two punished kids standing near the wall 😂😂😂😂😂
somebody in Georgia sneezed
This region is very mountainous and not suited fot Timurid cavalry too
when I was in school I read about the battle between Alexander the great and Raja Porus along the banks of river Jehlum. Alexanders's army faced elephants for the first time, probabbly, in the battle. But he ordered his men to wield double edged axes and cut elephants' knees and trunks. this ultimately lead to alexanders victory. Would love your take on this.
Love your videos and narration. I've recommended your channel to my students. Keep going brothers!!!
This video is more accurate than previous one
Great work Kings and Generals keep it up
Perspective from both sides is the best way to see what really happened, thanks Kings 👍
It is said in Ottoman war sources that (almost) no soldier fought, except for Serbs. I wish Turks and Serbs, two nations that dislike each other these days, knew about this war. If the Tatars had not betrayed, it could have been a much more enjoyable war.
Note: From Turkey.
@Dejan/Дејан Kojić/Којић Maybe something should make us sympathetic. And that is the status of Serbia compared to other neighboring countries. Unlike them, Serbs kept their land, their laws and system in a whole. The others lost their lands and though their populations stayed there, they were under direct Ottoman rule, obeying their laws and fitting in their system. For that matter, maybe even more significant is what happened after the Battle of Ankara, meaning the Ottoman civil war. Both Serbs and Turks should be remembered that the key role in a key battle between Mehmed's and Musa's forces had Serbian cavalry again. After that victory, the new sultan Mehmed promised that he would not interfere with Serbia while he rules, out of gratitude for help against his brother. And he kept that promise, which allowed Serbia to thrive. That was a golden age for medieval Serbia, we should keep that in mind.
its not only Tatars that betrayed Eretnid armies, and many Turkish armies felt no reason to fight this war, a war of Ego's fighting fellow Turks and no jihad, thus either fled or joined Timur the clear stronger side.
Stefan...1000 salute to you from İstanbul my lord ! we will never forget !
@EroticOnion23 to his own nephew you mean :)
Stefan replies "remove kebab" after Beyazid died...😆
Timur gave Stefan his sister back on request because he admired his armies curage
Timur did not want a woman who Bayezid already spoiled.
I love Timur because he's like the Sauron of his day. He checks the box for the most stereotypical villain, he even has his "you have failed me for the last time" moments.
Ah yes what wonderful and joyous sights are razed cities and massacred innocent bodies, may I suggest that you also look into Adolf Hitler and Stalin. I think you will love them as much as Timur.
I see some Muslim proud that those Mongol converted to Islam but I think it is namesake as they remain brutal as usual.. They converted because of strengthening their political stance...Those mongol even
had audacity to challenge Allah in battlefield if they could get chance. Though timur is brutal but his heir Sultan Shahrukh Mirza ruled peacefully until his death in 1447 and reconstructed most city destroyed by his father ushering new era of timurid renaissance which somehow rivalling Italian renaissance..
@Mr Haci Timur was the Mongols line of kings.
why did they preferred jizya over conversion then?
@c s
That doesn't matter, that wasn't even your point to be specific, you said did any empire existed without its leaders compromising for faith, then yes it's Rashiduns. Now don't twist the topic.
@Crafty Unicorn did rashiduns have another rival islamic empire to fight against?
@c s
Ahem....Rashiduns ...??
It's insane to think that basically, a single guy (with a mighty army, but you get the idea) destroyed the brightest cities of his time and probably destroyed the demography and economy of Eurasia for like, 50 years. Everything he ever tried, he succeeded in. This guy had no fear, no mercy, no forgiveness. He would just do as he pleased.
You have to hand it to Timur. Like all great military commanders he was a master of miss-direction. And what he did prior to Ankara sure helps prove it. Side note: I would love to get that game. But I can't for reasons. Great video. my compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Timur gave Stefan his sister back because of his bravery
Didn't know Timur fought (and won) against the Knights Hospitallers. Great explanation of history!
he took izmir in 3 days, hi from izmir btw
I had been waiting for the day that epic history and kings and generals finally collaborated.
Timur ❤️
i love this channel so much becauase they are making history about my culture and nation without any discrimination. THANKS ALOT. Best historical youtube channel ever !
I love the petty back and forth Timur and Bayezid. Who knew these seasoned conquerors ruling very large and powerful empires could correspond like school children.
Ottoman : siege Constantinople
Timure: I destroy you ottoman
And in the truth he almost destroy the ottoman
Timure was really a brilliant military leader who come from nothing
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@١٩٧٩ on the line so are you a jew?
@١٩٧٩ on the line i have facebook account same as this name
@١٩٧٩ on the line You know i have been trying to learn russian , i got to say it is not easy as arabic , each verb has its own tense , but i like it . привет , у меня завут Зияд , я живёти в Мэкнэс я 20 лет . i can read but listen is hard to understand .
@١٩٧٩ on the line BTW you must be speaking arabic , you can yourself find proofs of what im saying .
2 büyük Türk hakanı.. Allah ikisine de rahmet eylesin.
@Göktuğ 𐰸𐰆𐱃𐰖 𐰓𐰢𐰼 By Treachery not By military skills.
@Yousaf Daudzai No, discourses such as "If this were so, if this were so" have no place in the science of history. Everything is done and over So it is unreasonable to compare the abilities and skills of Commanders with such statements. Bayezid was defeated by Timur. Topic closed
@Göktuğ 𐰸𐰆𐱃𐰖 𐰓𐰢𐰼 Bayazid Was Betrayed by Tatars And Other Turks Else Timur Would Have Been Defeated By Bayazid Yildirim
@Yousaf Daudzai No, there is only Mehmet the Conqueror in the Ottoman empire who can be compared to Timur. others are not as talented as Timur.
@Göktuğ 𐰸𐰆𐱃𐰖 𐰓𐰢𐰼 Without a Doubt but Ottomans were much way More better emperor's than Timur. He was just an Great Military Genius.
Timur raided Georgia 8 times, but couldn't subjugate it! The amount of damage Georgia suffered in those years is unimaginable, population lost third of it, starvation rampaged through the country and crops were devastated for decade.
@Gul'dan thats a total lie do yuo know any commander that defeat timur or any seige which timur failed.althrough he was a very cruel and killer ruler and so brutal also but also as one of the few rulers which were never defeated
this was not happen with georgia only but was happened with every land where timur entered
Temur said before his death: I could not defeat two enemies, death and Georgians. I think everyone understands what he said.
Damn! Poor Georgia 🇬🇪 Timur would not give them a break! They were the Timurids punching bag!
Not a poor, warrior.
@Kings and Generals
A video about the byzantine empire during their last years of their existance in high depth would be really nice. Especially constantine xi or giovanni giustiniani longo deserve his own video like skanderbeg for example
Great content keep up the goodwork 🙌
Thank you! Will do!
Generals: How often do you want to raid Georgia?
Timur: Yes!
I didn't know much about Timur before this series, but the biggest take away is that he was a fantastic general, and real piece of s**t.
And so is the setup for the starting date of 1444 in EU4.
Joking aside its so great to see history come to life in your videos. Thanks.
The setup for EU IV is the battle of Varna. Last crusade against Ottoman
Historians paint these people of the steppe in a way that really resonates even today.
Georgia be like what did i do this time?
Timur: You still talking??????
@Nafi he probably could have. But you seem to admire a historic murderer a lot.
MAA RKK If Timur wanted to wipe out Georgians he could. It's pretty easy compared to Ottomans, The Mamlueks, The Delhian Sultanate, the Golden Horde, and even the great Yuan was afraid of him. So your quote about Timur not being able to take Georgia is cute 😂 but I like your passionate nationalism
@Gul'dan i think you're obsessed with this Timur's quote kid, but didn’t understand what he actually wanted to say.
@Gul'dan He could defeat their everything except their soul. You
Know what you can't control someone's mind and faith-belief.
@Gul'dan u know my foot Timur could destroy Georgia millions of times, a cute little country. All he wanted is submission, obedience, humbleness from every emperors of his time. Understand kid?
I hope you do the second episode of the early muslim conquests from Umar's conquests of Persia and Egypt till the rise of the Umayyad Caliphate.. that would be extremely educational
Bayezid, going from winning a great victory over the Europeans, to being crushed by Timur. Not a great turnaround.
Then again, he was facing one of the greatest commanders of all time, so it's not surprising.
@Baki Demirel timur
MEHMET THE CONGUEROR VS TAMERLANE Which one would these two take into battle?
21:37 i disagree, i do think his legacy last, because even if incidental or not, he set the first stones for what would be the mughal empire. and i think that is a legacy that you can acredit to timur to a certain extend.
Temur was the best warrior of all time, its sad he killed so many people though
He didn't fight in his own battles because he was simply called lame which his title called ''tamerlane'' because of it.
Beyazid and his Jannisaries fought bravely to the end.. Hours of fighting outnumbered Timurids enemies, He Was The King Of Nicopolis, Whole Europe Was Scared of His dreams and victories..
Respect...
He was defeated in Wallachia