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Talking to Muslims About Christ | Mohammed Hijab & Jonathan Pageau | EP 297

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  • Vincent Jiovenetta
    Vincent Jiovenetta 3 ай бұрын +2316

    Its amazing how much more effective talks like this are without an audience interrupting every 5 seconds

    • Judageekamy
      Judageekamy 3 күн бұрын

      But being interrupted by adds still sucks. 😢

    • A S
      A S 4 күн бұрын +1

      The big guy with the beard isn't bringing anything to this conversation. He's just proselytizing. JP is trying to take this to a higher level but the beard guy wants a basic conversation about who's right and who's wrong. The beard guy doesn't even belong here.

    • Abdelrahman Yasser
      Abdelrahman Yasser 4 күн бұрын

      @Sommerfeld basically you're not sophisticated enough about Islam to keep talking openly about it the way you want, you might provide some false information just like what you did in your comment when you described SAW and PBUH as two different things, meanwhile they're the exact same terminology in 2 different languages, also we Muslims do not talk openly about Christianity or any other religion unless we have full knowledge on it, also islam prohibits us from mocking other religions, which is a sign of intellectuality unlike what we see of humiliation from jews and christians and the way they talk about islam or our prophet, please, read more before you speak or you'll make yourself look like a total idiot.
      It is not the eyes that are blind, but the hearts.

    • Ahmed Wardani
      Ahmed Wardani 7 күн бұрын

      ​@SozeyTozey pbuh means peace be upon him, saw means saw is pbuh in Arabic صلا الله عليه و سلم، They are both for Muhammed, swt means سبحانه و ت تعالى which means glory be to him the almighty

    • HZ JC
      HZ JC 18 күн бұрын

      holey “science “ of Islamic book: Qte: Sahih al-Bukhari 3870: Narrated Abdullah bin Abbas: During the lifetime of allah’s apostle the moon was split (into two places).
      Chapter (18) Surat I-Kahf (the cave): Till, when he (the traveller Zul-qarnain) reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it going down into a muddy spring, ... - Sura Sura 18:86 unquote.
      Qte: *the traveller Zul-qarnain, according to Islam, was Alexandra the great, who was a Muslim, according to Islam! 😂😂
      The fact is that Alexandra the great was a greek pagan during 356 BC-323 BC, while Mohd lived during 570A.D. - 632 A.D. Islam was NOT established until the 7th century!😎

  • Shakur Sayed
    Shakur Sayed 21 күн бұрын +176

    This type of conversations is very neccessary for the humanity!
    We have learned so much and the amount of knowledge and wisdom between all of them was phenomenal!
    I would love to see dr Jordan peterson debates dr Zakir naik . That would absolutely epic!
    Greetings from Afghanistan

    • Hanna Wurst
      Hanna Wurst 20 сағат бұрын

      John 1,1 -3 + 14 confirms the creator of all creation (the Word) became human! = YHWH!
      as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*

    • saeeduzzaman saeed
      saeeduzzaman saeed Күн бұрын

      Dr. Zakir naik is not the person to mess. Seriously, Peterson has to memories whole bible to debate with Naik. Otherwise He will not have the minimum chance to stand against Zakir. Zakir has vast knowledge in comparative religion and history. He can give reference from bible and other historical books easily which is exceptional.

  • Elaine
    Elaine 23 күн бұрын +146

    To be sitting in my living room and as a Christian in the US and listening to this amazing give and take conversation with Jordan, Mohammad Hijab and Jonathan on their religions is so heart warming. Having real conversations is what is going to help us all to live and work together as well as learn to respect one another for our differences. God Bless all of you all.

    • Bugs Bunny
      Bugs Bunny 7 сағат бұрын

      @HZ JC “Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, 21 but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property. Exodus 21:20-21
      How do you explain this?

    • Bugs Bunny
      Bugs Bunny 7 сағат бұрын

      @HZ JC what absolute non sense
      The first man to do the call for prayer was Bilal (RA) who was black slave and got freed by Abu bakr (RA), Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) told him to do the call to prayer and he loved Prophet Mohammed so much that he had to leave madina after he passed because Bilal found it difficult to stay without the prophet.
      Prophet Musa or Moses was brown and there were 124000 prophets and we only know of a small number of them and many of them could have been black
      وَلَقَدۡ بَعَثۡنَا فِی كُلِّ أُمَّةࣲ رَّسُولًا أَنِ ٱعۡبُدُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَٱجۡتَنِبُوا۟ ٱلطَّـٰغُوتَۖ فَمِنۡهُم مَّنۡ هَدَى ٱللَّهُ وَمِنۡهُم مَّنۡ حَقَّتۡ عَلَیۡهِ ٱلضَّلَـٰلَةُۚ فَسِیرُوا۟ فِی ٱلۡأَرۡضِ فَٱنظُرُوا۟ كَیۡفَ كَانَ عَـٰقِبَةُ ٱلۡمُكَذِّبِینَ﴿ ٣٦ ﴾
      • Sahih International:
      And We certainly sent into every nation a messenger, [saying], Worship Allāh and avoid ṭāghūt.[[False objects of worship.]] And among them were those whom Allāh guided, and among them were those upon whom error was [deservedly] decreed. So proceed [i.e., travel] through the earth and observe how was the end of the deniers.
      An-Nahl, Ayah 36

    • HZ JC
      HZ JC 10 сағат бұрын

      @Bugs Bunny
      Jesus said to them, “…Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word.
      You are of your father the devil, …He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. …for he is a liar and the father of it. (John 8:42-44)

  • Rafael Mugnaini Martins
    Rafael Mugnaini Martins 13 күн бұрын +55

    Find one person in the world who's trying like Mr Peterson to understand humans like he does. Thank you Jordan Peterson my sons will learn a lot about you Sir!

  • Richard Wallner
    Richard Wallner 13 күн бұрын +56

    Imagine if leaders from all walks of life and all religions could have intelligent, calm and respectful discussions like this each day how wonderful this world would be

    • Alias of an alias
      Alias of an alias 6 күн бұрын

      ​@Richard Wallner Interesting

    • Adam 87
      Adam 87 7 күн бұрын +1

      They’ve got WAY too many ulterior motives involving making money to ever care to agree.

    • Robotz Comix
      Robotz Comix 8 күн бұрын +2

      @Lee "disagree" are just a word for u to make him look bad? people have their own belief, perspectives, theory, and anthing that is different since we are human and by u mean disagree does'nt mean he is ignorant, he makes his points and eloborate it rather than being (like u) no offense. a man who did'nt like to be disagreed by.

    • Richard Wallner
      Richard Wallner 8 күн бұрын +3

      Nothing wrong with disagreeing with someone for whatever you believe. I’m a Christian in training, wasn’t raised as a Christian, didn’t go to church, didn’t know God, just started about 4 years ago. I listen to all view points. Because of my experience 4 years ago with God and things God has shown me these last few years I know Jesus is not only my savior but God. I live by 3 rules (and probably don’t do them well). First I love God first, All other humans second, and I try to apply the Fruit of the Spirit to every conversation and everything I do. Communication is extremely important whether we agree or disagree, otherwise we have issues, communication is not trying to better someone or change someone THAT IS God’s plan and job. I’m an old guy and God didn’t need to use me until I 60. Sorry for the long conversation.

  • Miky Miky
    Miky Miky 24 күн бұрын +40

    Congrats for all the 3 gentleman. This is educationalist inspiring and, motivational towards learning more about all the other 21:51 halves. Muslim and christian and catholic ideologies working and showing what they stand for. Indeed, all defend good and fair things that can do much for everybody in the world. This is brilliant

  • Angel Exterminatus
    Angel Exterminatus 4 ай бұрын +7505

    I`d like to thank my dad for busting my balls to learn english at the age of 8, because without that, I would have never gotten to experience conversations and knowledge like this.

    • BahamaBartok MajestikassBiscuit
      BahamaBartok MajestikassBiscuit 11 күн бұрын

      i thank the video games that taught me english as a kid xD

    • Nico Liba Kasongo
      Nico Liba Kasongo Ай бұрын

      @Robert Taylor You are right about the Qur'an. To answer your question it's YES. Now, we have one problem here: are the Iranian officials executing protesters interpreting the Qur'an to their advantage, or are they right in their understanding of the book? The Muslims that stands up to totalitarian regimes in Muslim countries, or the ones that fight terrorist organizations but still claim their Islamism, are they reading different Qur'an ?
      That migrant father and mother in the West who tries to stay away as possible from Mosqs politics, and sometimes see their relationship with a son radicalized by the extremists become conflictuous, but remain Muslims and even keep going to the Mosq even though it is with a bleeding heart, which Qur'an do they read?
      I'm Christian and I hate those who take in the bible by verses instead of reading it like book is supposed to be read. In Islam that is also the practice of many.
      Your statement about Muslims are never straight forward or honest is erroneous in its structure and target. There are many different sort of Muslims, but the ones we know are the extremists, activists, and politicians because they want to make a statement. Christianity went through what Islam is going through, but you can see that people are beginning to affirm another statement in many parts of the Islamic world. The protesters in Iran are Muslims...

  • Byron Hand
    Byron Hand Ай бұрын +15

    One of the best talks I've ever heard I think, I love how intricate the knowledge of all sides of the discussion were. More people need to be recording moments of clarity, unity and constructive discussion like this.

  • Polly Kenna
    Polly Kenna Ай бұрын +32

    What a beautiful statement by JP “Because rationality should be subordinated to something above it.” The human mind and logic is a construct of the physical world, yet to believe in God is to acknowledge that God is not constrained to the physical world and operates outside the limits of our 4 dimensional universe. The rational mind can only take us so far in our understanding of a creative force, that’s what facilities the element of mystery in our faith.

  • Mr. Handy
    Mr. Handy Ай бұрын +10

    We need more of this! We have more in common that should connect us rather than differences that should cause violence!

  • Louisa Wade
    Louisa Wade Ай бұрын +21

    A great enlightening, grown up conversation, debate so good to watch. Pity there is not more of this. I am richer for watching & listening.

  • Tabbs Smith
    Tabbs Smith 12 күн бұрын +15

    An amazing conversation! Always easy to listen!

  • Farsider
    Farsider 5 ай бұрын +3634

    I love how Jordan is completely open to talking and trying to understand anyone. More discourse like this is needed. Finding common ground.

    • NikoNiiiiiiiiiiiiii
      NikoNiiiiiiiiiiiiii 6 күн бұрын

      @Moayd Art 'because he wont abandon his faith he's not "open"' ya that makes a lot of sense

    • hypocrisy causes insanity and disbelief
      hypocrisy causes insanity and disbelief 6 күн бұрын

      mercy open-minded close-minded ignorance, dream arrogance fear, the soul, work success book, graduation law power, religion festival soldier, self-deception, use the mind to think, use reason so you can live for yourself and remember your problems

    • Grimmz
      Grimmz 8 күн бұрын

      islam is different from other religions, its more than just a belief. its culture and its way of life, its not just believing in god but also living your life in your god's image.

  • Tintin17 Nick
    Tintin17 Nick Ай бұрын +38

    Brilliantly done guys,and I do believe we all want love and peace in the world no matter what we believe in,harmony takes effort and patience to I as fellow man regardless of their belief,I'm a Christian but love all mankind and respect everyone's right to believe what they wish without hate x God bless you all 🙏

    • Beet Zuma
      Beet Zuma 5 күн бұрын

      @Christopher Ryan you’re arguing that peace and respect of beliefs goes against basic human survival? Then you passive aggressively imply that it’s pretty much childish to think that way? Literally makes not sense. How would human survival is based off We must have food, water, air, and shelter. How is human survival threatened if people has honor and respect the basic rights of humans to believe what they please?

    • Beet Zuma
      Beet Zuma 5 күн бұрын

      @Christopher Ryan what are you even talking about? for someone in his “adult years” you don’t make any sense. Basic human nature is to survive so what does that have to do with people respecting one another’s beliefs?

    • Christopher Ryan
      Christopher Ryan 5 күн бұрын

      your comment on world peace and love sounds excellent, however it makes me shake my head that people in their adult years yhink that is possible basic human nature is to survive that is it everything else comes with the territory

    • Mike Gowdy
      Mike Gowdy 12 күн бұрын

      I love mankind also, that's why I follow the words of Jesus Christ and go out in the world and preach the word of the GOSPEL God the Holyspirite and Jesus Christ Hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah 🙌

  • BurpleBrink
    BurpleBrink Ай бұрын +27

    “What do you mean by do… I’m more interested in what you do” man thinks of word choice in impossible ways. Loved this discussion, thank you to everybody who helped up it together

  • Onelove
    Onelove Ай бұрын +15

    These conversations are great ❤

  • mhi zummy
    mhi zummy 21 күн бұрын +17

    I love this man l always listen to him and he talk as a father to me may God bless you ❤️🙌🏾✝️

  • Plant Based Well-being
    Plant Based Well-being Ай бұрын +5

    This has to be one of the best inter-faith debates I’ve watched. Beautifully done, it ended too soon. 😢

  • B
    B 5 ай бұрын +1893

    I am a uneducated American currently residing temporary in Dublin Ireland and I have long conversations with Pakistanis, Brazilians, Greeks,Romanians, YOU NAME IT!
    Point being most people from anywhere around the planet are willing to have interesting conversations of respect and abundance. Never believe the social media hate and divide.

    • Jonathan
      Jonathan 3 күн бұрын

      Your honesty is inspirational

    • captain pat
      captain pat 3 күн бұрын

      @yuhyuh When my comment literally have references sections and show you where I draw my conclusion. Isn't it lazy if you just claim without support your claim. Can you elaborate more? It will be more prosuctive if you disagree with my claim and you bring references to support your comment.

    • yuhyuh
      yuhyuh 3 күн бұрын

      @captain pat there was no facts or research in your comment, it was just an incoherent rage banter. Hope you heal buddy

    • captain pat
      captain pat 3 күн бұрын

      @yuhyuh You confuse fact + reference with hate, hope you research more

  • CUBS 2016
    CUBS 2016 Ай бұрын +10

    Learned so very much 💓
    Thank you for talking & having a discussion with no haste. The world would be better if most of us could listen & hear the other person.

  • Tyler Freitag
    Tyler Freitag Ай бұрын +13

    I vote on a Netflix series with you 3. Wonderful to hear.

  • Reno Laringo
    Reno Laringo Ай бұрын +9

    WOW! This was the most interesting and profound exchange I've seen so far ! THANK you all the three of you! The 'Music' was indeed present and it is so refreshing.
    Music is the sacred langage of the vibrationnal Universe. It's about solos, chords, progressions, construction, harmony, sharing of emotions, mutual listening and also .... Silence. If we humans would understand we are God's instruments to play the Universe symphony, and that we have to play our part in the construction of our own reality, we would probably be trying to be better musicians. Your dialogue is the perfect demonstration of that! Thank you so much for the present !

    • Jayz
      Jayz 6 күн бұрын

      Music is satanic.

  • From The Scott Sutherland School of Architecture

    First thanks for your videos Mr Peterson, I enjoyed watching many of them so far, for this video I just wanted to say that "listening and allowing the other to talk without interruption is an art not everyone can master" !!!!

  • Spangler
    Spangler 24 күн бұрын +5

    Thank god for the wisdom of JP the world is in dire need of the hard truths that he has shared will the world ❤

  • Sue Lambert
    Sue Lambert 2 ай бұрын +372

    Jordan Peterson is so open and humble. A man of integrity. Canadian government needs to appreciate and be proud of this man!

    • HZ JC
      HZ JC 18 күн бұрын

      Would JP learn: (12) chapter: ...Narrated abu sa id al-khudri:
      The prophet said, “isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?”
      The women said, “Yes.”
      He said, “this is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.”
      - Sahih al-Bukhari 2658, book 52, Hadith 22.

    • T S
      T S 24 күн бұрын

      Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;*
      as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*

    • T S
      T S 24 күн бұрын

      Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity!
      *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*
      Son of God is a title referring to the Word of God!

    • Rukiichi
      Rukiichi 25 күн бұрын +2

      @T S it's quran* not koran
      perhaps try to read more instead of posting around absurd statements

  • JClar72
    JClar72 Ай бұрын +5

    This was very interesting and enlightening, Thank you Dr. Peterson and guests

  • Caleb Ferguson
    Caleb Ferguson Ай бұрын +11

    “ and lesser so the Protestants “ - My favorite line. Hahah!
    I really enjoyed this discussion!
    Being a Christian, I find myself trying to draw commonality among faiths quite often. But it is crucial for any true believer of any faith to not live in compromise and increasingly wane with our own convictions.
    There is too a compelling passage in Revelation Ch. 11 that talks about the two prophets of God that challenge “ The Beast”. How when they are killed in Egypt, their bodies are laid out for 3 days. It goes on to say how “all the nations “will see these bodies and rejoice over their death, because they had caused many plague on the Earth as punishment.
    In terms of proof of this happening, I would say it still hasn’t, but of the the technology that would be required for “ All nations “ to be able to see these prophets slain in the streets. We have that today. Compelling for a text written 2K years ago…

    • GarageStudio
      GarageStudio 8 күн бұрын +1

      Very well said. Plus the technology that would be able to allow people around the world to buy and sell with a "mark".

  • Mark A
    Mark A Ай бұрын +10

    two extremely intelligent people conversing. I wish I was on that level. it was enjoyable to watch and a challenge to keep up.

  • Michael C.
    Michael C. Ай бұрын +5

    What a great conversation starter, for believers and non: You wake up on a boat, and see people there eating and living, and what questions do you have? Wonderful.

  • Keith Francis
    Keith Francis 13 күн бұрын +1

    As much as I know it would never happen due to the amount of energy they had to expend working with each other instead of against or away, I'd love a podcast of these three comparing the big three, I haven't ever seen a show dedicated to that. It would be nice

  • Yr 4 was cg33
    Yr 4 was cg33 5 ай бұрын +1704

    This is what the world needs. I appreciate Dr. Jordan Peterson, Jonathan and Mohammed Hijab sitting at the same table and having a Real Talk, to an extent in which they have talked in this video. We need more of this! Not only from these fine souls, that are in search and pursuit of remedy, but from many others.. on all levels. This is the way forward. Bless to all

    • Juicebox 01
      Juicebox 01 3 ай бұрын +1

      @Robert Percival you learn islam from anti Muslim websites 🤡 🤣

    • Juicebox 01
      Juicebox 01 3 ай бұрын +1

      @Robert Percival who gave any pope the right to send people hell ? 🤣 🤣 🤣
      That is so stoopid 🤦‍♂️

  • holyfuknmolymyshitstinks
    holyfuknmolymyshitstinks Ай бұрын +7

    Gawd I love Jordan’s ability to neutral mind. Puts himself in someone else’s shoes like none other I’ve ever heard, personally

  • kall_me_krazi
    kall_me_krazi 19 күн бұрын +8

    Jordan, thank you for being morally rich! God bless your pure heart and good intentions. Thank you for sharing your passion, wisdom and purpose with the world!
    Sending you, and everyone loving energy! 🤍🙏

  • SemiMono
    SemiMono Ай бұрын +7

    25:55 Agreed, we should not judge an idea by looking at a single person who holds it.

  • Adeyemo okiki folorunso ü
    Adeyemo okiki folorunso ü 19 сағат бұрын

    I wish debates can go peacefully like this every time.

  • Samson Moore
    Samson Moore Ай бұрын +1

    Wonderful! I'm happy to have watched and listened.

  • Nick 488
    Nick 488 5 ай бұрын +1168

    This conversation could have gone on for 6 hours and still be fascinating.

    • HZ JC
      HZ JC 18 күн бұрын

      M hijab a hypocrite:
      (12) chapter: ...Narrated abu sa id al-khudri:
      The prophet said, “isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?”
      The women said, “Yes.”
      He said, “this is because of the deficiency of a woman’s mind.”
      - Sahih al-Bukhari 2658, book 52, Hadith 22.

    • Ryo JS
      Ryo JS Ай бұрын

      @pain in the knee he definitely is

    • pain in the knee
      pain in the knee Ай бұрын

      Hijab is definitely not telling all truth.

    • King Alaric
      King Alaric 3 ай бұрын

      @James C In the world that these men live in, people will always twist and warp their words to suit narratives. That's why they have to be very careful about what they say and provide much clarity. People fucking suck

    • James C
      James C 3 ай бұрын

      @King Alaric clarification on every word and preposition? Lmao

  • Carson Mendez
    Carson Mendez 22 күн бұрын +8

    i love how he can take grown men who feel as though they are at the near peak of they're intellectual society and turn them into boys sitting around the camp fire growing and maturing. i don't know how much time anyone else has spent trying to get grown men or women to mature but it is a difficult process and he has it down pat as well as anyone i have ever seen.

  • Granny Annie
    Granny Annie Ай бұрын +3

    Granny speaks re: present discussion i was born with "love" , no knowledge of fear, envey, no negative emotions, pure love and as I aged I learned unkind words and decided to choose "love-kindness", I am 76 year and I continue to believe eternally!

  • Nicholaus Barnett
    Nicholaus Barnett 15 күн бұрын +12

    This was an amazing conversation by all 3 of these scholars

    • Don Al Capone
      Don Al Capone 22 сағат бұрын

      @Nitish Mitaldid you not hear the honours Mohammed hijab had? He is more then entitled to speak about Islam and theology. Your hate is doing you a disservice as is your country. Why are Hindus so hateful, is it because we ruled you for thousands of years ahaha

    • Fun
      Fun Күн бұрын +1

      @Nitish Mital You're a Indian right

  • AToM
    AToM Ай бұрын +2

    So let me preface this by saying that I have the utmost respect, value, and love for Peterson. It is through him that I come to understand how fundamentally impossible it is to truly understand and relate to a culture that you have not experienced first hand. I can see a blind spot in his logic whenever he speaks upon Muslims and black culture.

  • Nathaniel James
    Nathaniel James 3 күн бұрын

    When you learn and become an avid reader you are able to come to an agreement and and disagree at intellectual level knowing how to communicate effectively to figure things out only to end deeper in thought 💭

  • ThatOneGuy
    ThatOneGuy 2 ай бұрын +277

    “What you need most will be found where you least want to look” such a powerful quote

    • Uther the Lightbringer
      Uther the Lightbringer Ай бұрын

      @Rainfeather Tate the human trafficker?

    • himura haibara
      himura haibara Ай бұрын

      @Rainfeather you can't look for good example of one group on social media because their purpose is getting attention for the wrong reasons controvercy is the most common tool for that. If you have the time try to look at the muslims around your environment. They're just living their life not trying to bother other people's businesses.

  • Michael C.
    Michael C. Ай бұрын

    23 minutes in and I think the conversation is stimulating. I like the intelligence, and I love the understanding of history, as one-sided as it may be.

    • Red
      Red 8 күн бұрын

      pls explain. I felt like he just read the quran and the other 2 sat there.

  • Dani Roy
    Dani Roy Ай бұрын +2

    All of this discourse can go on and on forever. All we need to know is that we each come from the same source - and that we each return to the same source - everything that separates us is just semantics, as we are all just meat suits having spiritual experiences. We all come from love, and we all return to love. And the entire point of being here is to love one another, and use Love as the main anchor and point of reference - to make each and every single decision during this tiny blip in time. It’s that’s simple.

    • Lance G
      Lance G 12 күн бұрын

      @POSSESSING FAITH Who is the naive one here?


      Naive thinking here…

  • Krei Papa
    Krei Papa 3 күн бұрын +2

    May Allah bless us all ☝️

  • TK
    TK Ай бұрын +1

    I love these conversations. Has anyone here studied "The Law of One" (the Ra Material) or "A Course in Miracles" ? Those 2 transcripts have spoken so much truth and understanding to our highest questions (where are we? How did we get here? Where are we going?) And they also shine a beautiful light of interpretation onto the traditional scriptures. I am not an expert on the traditional scriptures , but "the Law of One" material in my opinion is the thread that stitches all religions together and shows that they are all pointing towards One truth.
    Thank you for this conversation, and if anyone has explored the materials I mentioned above leave a comment here:)

  • AcE
    AcE 27 күн бұрын +1

    I❤Peterson for being a humble and straight gentleman he is and meant no offense to others religious beliefs🙏🎉

  • Dave C
    Dave C Ай бұрын +811

    One of my best friends in the world, who died tragically a few months ago at the age of 41 was Muslim. I still cry every time I think of him. We were two opposites, yet…we were brothers. In the truest sense of the meaning.
    The debates we had were epic. But at the end of the day. We were brothers and and best friends. I miss that about him. What I would give to have him here to engage is this type of conversation again. This discussion should be cherished as a reminder that friendship and brotherhood transcends geography and faith.

    • XL7M
      XL7M Күн бұрын

      ​@T S your understanding is the mistake respectfully

    • Abdelrahman Yasser
      Abdelrahman Yasser 4 күн бұрын

      So sorry for your loss, also, your comment is just amazing and I really wanted to state that, it doesn't matter the religion or the region, but the ability to be open about conversations and exchanging different opinions and points of views, condolences from Egypt 🤍🤍

    • T S
      T S 8 күн бұрын

      Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
      as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*

    • T S
      T S 8 күн бұрын

      Hebrews 1:10 Jesus is the Lord whose handwork is HEAVEN and EARTH!!
      as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*

    • Quandale Dingle
      Quandale Dingle 8 күн бұрын

      @T S how word of god means god that makes no sense at all plus christianity is corrupt as far as i know but im not saying you cant have true things in bible it is just changed

  • Philosophical Tendencies
    Philosophical Tendencies Ай бұрын +2

    I'd have an idea what could be a good "unity" that we could believe in and I think a sentence from the yogis describes this best: Conceive the godliness in you.
    I'd change the sentence in "Conceive the godliness in the human species". Wouldn't it be a nice idea to unify under this mantra? I'd love to see that. Love from Austria to both participating communities.

    • kingdom come
      kingdom come 11 күн бұрын

      I'm pretty sure that is what people are doing, whether they know it or not. "Godliness" seems to be a subjective term. That uniting phrase works well for Yogis because their environment and teachings are very similar and controlled. Maybe something a little simpler would be better like: "do unto others as you would have others do unto you" or the ten commandments seem like a Great starting point.

  • Bryant Cottreze
    Bryant Cottreze 6 күн бұрын

    I find I have a feeling of being lost in terms of purpose. I have my kids I have my house I just bought I’ve been promoted to a position of life changing money and Iva always been driven by conquering challenges my down fall is I get super lazy and almost depressed because i feel like I’m not happy even tho I have nothing to be upset about. I find my highest problem is that I’m never happy because I’m cursed with always l looking for the next adventure and after hearing this conversation and listening to of life of being depressed when going astray from a higher power. I just don’t get how I can have so much to be happy about yet be the furthest away from having a sense of fulfill ness. Either way appreciate your videos

  • ehinomen oseghale
    ehinomen oseghale 14 күн бұрын +2

    Its either jordan peterson is completely insane or he is a genius of unimaginable proportions. I believe Jordan peterson is one rare brain of complete unquestionable genius. I am absolutely in awe of you @jordan peterson. I will make it my life mission to follow and buy all your books. You make me think like no other human being has. God bless you. God bless you. May the universe bless you. May God cause his light to shine on you

  • Poptart 81
    Poptart 81 Ай бұрын +1

    Love each other, except when they are trying to hurt you. Defend, and then forgive. This is the lesson I've taken away.

  • Jon Paulson
    Jon Paulson 6 күн бұрын +1

    if everyone could communicate like this, if every opposing perspective could interact like this...

  • Irfan Azemi
    Irfan Azemi 4 ай бұрын +738

    This is how a debate should unfold literally and not screaming and interrupting one another and not be able to speak, this is education at its finest, just beautiful for the ears.

    • Hanna Wurst
      Hanna Wurst 9 күн бұрын

      ​ @Kazooha Kazoo
      Exactly! the Koran writer didn't even know what Christians believe! The writer of the Koran didn't even know that God became man according to Christianity! The writer of the Koran did not even know the most important foundations of Christianity!

    • Hanna Wurst
      Hanna Wurst 9 күн бұрын

      why are you running away?? The topic is what Allah believes what Christians believe! Which is completely wrong! the topic is not what Islam teaches about Islam!

    • Kazooha Kazoo
      Kazooha Kazoo 10 күн бұрын

      ​@Hanna Wurst its amazing how you distort quran words. When God asks jesus if he asked the people to worship him and his mother as deities
      He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.
      What the hell does this have to do with the trinity?

    • Kazooha Kazoo
      Kazooha Kazoo 10 күн бұрын

      ​@Hanna Wurst because jesus was never pierced. God gave another one his image while jesus was taken to the second level of heaven. The man who died was the only one willing to die when jesus asked would. The fact that jesus is not dead and still living in the second heaven is the reason why the "reincarnation of christ" talk is even relevant. Because jesus is still in the second level of heaven and will be back to unite the believers when the great test comes

  • Agent Fundacji
    Agent Fundacji Ай бұрын +4

    Jonathan is practically a counselor to Dr. Peterson. He talks rarely but when he does it's worth hearing.

    • LeoneJ
      LeoneJ 15 күн бұрын

      He just observed the whole time

  • Damon Beddingfield
    Damon Beddingfield 29 күн бұрын +1

    Being humble is one thing, being humble with those who think you are trying to seem humble is work. Not trying in the world is absolutely selfish. Sometimes loving, caring and understanding does not come natural. Put fourth the effort. Humanity as a whole depends on it.

    HITCH SLAP Ай бұрын +2

    Wow very intelligent and civil conversation

  • The Muslimah ♡
    The Muslimah ♡ Ай бұрын +24

    Mohammad Hijab is an educated individual and he knows what he brings to the table, with a background of firm knowledge, I'm proud of him he has shown strong arguments, which shows you don't have to be tolerant all the time but rather understanding and respect!

    • Wienerwald!! Austria
      Wienerwald!! Austria 4 күн бұрын +1

      @steve lovett Why is he a hypocrite?? Because he smashed your corrupted Bible?? 😅😅😅

    • Jack Dren
      Jack Dren 7 күн бұрын

      @steve lovett point out one contradiction then.

  • Mazen Maye
    Mazen Maye 25 күн бұрын

    Thank you for this great reference about comparative religion

  • Unintelligent Lifeform
    Unintelligent Lifeform 5 ай бұрын +536

    Such a great discussion. I hope these 3 men can have more discussions in the future and with more time.

    • HZ JC
      HZ JC 18 күн бұрын

      … “You son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, full of all deceit and villainy, will you not stop making crooked the straight paths of the Lord? (Acts13:10)

    • Ryo JS
      Ryo JS 3 ай бұрын

      Muslims literally *ruled the world through excellence*
      Always remember these two names
      ***Ibn Sina***, 9th century muslim
      Founder of
      1. Light being a finite wave
      2. Objects having their own personal gravity
      3. Father of Medicine, (before this point people in the west used chinese type medicine. "So if you look at jupiter you might have excessive bowl movement today")
      A. Invented numerous medical equipment we use to this day such as scalpels etc
      4. As if all of that isnt enough. He postulated about the Big Bang (from the Quranic Verse ofc but he brought it to the realm of science and human attempted understanding)
      The rest of which Im still discovering about him as its a pain to find info on him
      ***Ibn Al Haytham*** 9th century muslim
      1. ***Founder of Science***
      2. Founder of Optics, refractions, the camera etc
      3. Founder of the unbiased experimentation method (repeated experiments to get less bias? Thats this guy)
      4. He also wrote on Gravity like Ibn Sina
      Here's the kicker and pin this
      ** 1687 Isaac Newton (read criminal)
      Had a copy of Kitab al Manazir
      Source: Islamic Era Scientists: Muhammed Hamza El-Saba (Professor Engineering) Sept 2021
      "Ibn Al Haytham did a whole series of experiments, with darkrooms with pinholes (like camera) and other devices, to prove that Light Rays enter the eye from the outside. And he founded the Theory of Light Refraction and Reflection.
      This work of Ibn Al Haytham, based on experimental observation in the year 100-" I think they meant 1000, "represents the birth of Scientific experimental method. His approach was translated into Latin and taken up centuries later by Roger Bacon, Francis Bacon, and Galileo.**
      ___***In 1687, Isaac Newton Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica[1], in which he formulated Newton's laws of motions and Newton's laws of gravity, after centuries of their discovery and publishing, by Islamic era Scientists!"***___
      Christians Atheists only thro genocide, colonialism, Nazism, r9pe and cheating in various forms
      Then stealing Muslim advancements
      Christians do what they do best
      At least he had the *audacity* to signage the magnificence
      "We stand on the shoulders of giants-!"
      My butt
      What he means is
      "We stole your stuff again Muslims"

  • Operator Zero
    Operator Zero Ай бұрын +4

    I'm so glad that I've watched this interview. So much that was exchanged. I didn't even know that Muslims believed in Jesus Christ to a certain degree.

    • meshal alzahrani
      meshal alzahrani 8 күн бұрын +2

      I’m sure if you search deep about Islam and what it’s all about, you would be convinced to the point that you might convert because it’s the most convincing. But the problem is that if you were born in a christen family and you don’t know everything about Islam except the ugly image of some terrorists that have stained the reputation of the religion. Of course you’ll develop some hatred against it.

  • DreamMasters The Hotrod Shop
    DreamMasters The Hotrod Shop Ай бұрын +1

    Truth is deeper than you can imagine! The agreement to honor and respect another ones position in what theirs to be is a powerful foundation for peace as long as it is truth and not delusional

  • Waybac Inc
    Waybac Inc Ай бұрын +4

    From ghana and what he says is true. I be doing salat in my Christian friends room. I even get escorted to the mosque sometimes by christians

  • Ws BST
    Ws BST Ай бұрын +1

    30:45 - 31:40 Jordans so accurate on the topic trying to be a (courageous knight) of ones faith especially Christianity for me, it's true it's hard to be properly humble or follow all the guidelines in your faith all the times in whichever faith or religion u believe, it just shows us how flawed us humans are, God bless Jordan Peterson

  • Peter Jarnes
    Peter Jarnes Ай бұрын +1

    This was terrific and one of the most powerful statements was "don't ask me if I believe in God watch me." 🙏 Testify.

    • Cameron Shane
      Cameron Shane 29 күн бұрын

      no dude hes dancing around the question. hes not a Christian. hes an Atheist who believes religion is good morally for a society. thats it.

  • Tony Binder
    Tony Binder 5 ай бұрын +778

    Imagine a world where our political had conversations like this. Thank you JPB, Pageu, and Mohamad

    • Muhammad Khan
      Muhammad Khan 3 ай бұрын

      @Bruce Wayne wdym?

    • Bruce Wayne
      Bruce Wayne 3 ай бұрын

      @Muhammad Khan jpb

    • Hanna Wurst
      Hanna Wurst 4 ай бұрын

      John 1,1 -3 + 14 confirms the creator of all creation became human! = YHWH!
      as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*

    • shredseeker
      shredseeker 4 ай бұрын +1

      @Hanna Wurst Jesus! Stop posting the same comment under every comment. You clearly have a natural disposition to cause argument.

    • Hanna Wurst
      Hanna Wurst 4 ай бұрын

      Hebr 1,2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, *by whom also he made the worlds;*
      as everyone can see the term Son of God refers to the Word of God = god himself! For through that God created the worlds! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!*

  • Dylan Heinrich
    Dylan Heinrich Ай бұрын

    Thanks-- needed to hear this conversation!

  • Stef Kourakis
    Stef Kourakis Ай бұрын +7

    " Love can attain what the intellect can not fathom" Meher Baba

  • James Raj
    James Raj Ай бұрын

    Grown up discussion...need more of it.

    INC3NSUS Ай бұрын +8

    I am Agnostic, and yet this is powerful and amazing conversation. I went to Afghanistan and have friends I made there but struggle keeping an open mind about Muslims. Thank you for this!

    • ahmed makcim
      ahmed makcim 5 күн бұрын

      @Hamad Al Khalifa Islam Is not a race, which means discrimination against Muslims is not racism.

    • Stephen
      Stephen 18 күн бұрын

      @Hamad Al Khalifa xD

    • Hamad Al Khalifa
      Hamad Al Khalifa 19 күн бұрын +1

      ​@Stephen What a racist

    • Stephen
      Stephen 23 күн бұрын

      @TONI_KROOS I live in a Muslim majority country, not that your friendship circle has anything to do with facts.

      TONI_KROOS 23 күн бұрын +2

      @Stephen do you even have a muslim friend?🙄
      You just assume humility wont be returned?😑

    MAKAROV M Ай бұрын

    I Think i need to be reborn study and research better just to grasp this conversation... Holly Molly! this is like the highest degree in philosophy and spirituality for me.

  • Lauren C
    Lauren C 5 ай бұрын +378

    As a Christian I found this absolutely fascinating. Thank you for this conversation!

    • MoMo
      MoMo Ай бұрын

      @SY hijab was talking more than listening? Man peterson talked like triple as much as hijab.

    • SY
      SY 4 ай бұрын

      @K B thanks for the offer. But no thanks! Sorry, but There is no Al-Lah and there is no truth in Islam.
      I have the truth and will confess that until my last breath. and because we love you, we all pray that God remove the scales from your eyes that you too may enjoy salvation and eternal life with Christ. 🙏

    • abdelnour tedjani
      abdelnour tedjani 4 ай бұрын

      @lifeonthelake 4367 I didn't understand what you have said

  • Josip
    Josip Ай бұрын +5

    As a man on his spiritual way, I always wondered which religion is the right one. Then comparing Bible vs Kur'an I used my logic as much as possible. So according to my personal beliefs and what I discovered is Christianity has more sense than Islam (again I am saying this for myself personally). Now it would take a lot to put all the reasons here. At the end my point is everybody should get their own "questioning" by themselves. Amen! And God bless y'all!

  • simbad909
    simbad909 24 күн бұрын +1

    When intelligent diverse ppl can check their vanities at the door ..we get a very cool long discussion as this. Very enjoyable.

  • Jai
    Jai Ай бұрын +2

    pls continue to be an activist in christianity because your helping me regain faith and a role model of sorts.

  • Norma Breazile
    Norma Breazile 10 күн бұрын

    While speaking in a depth conversation with someone you never take a drink of water( or any drink) bc this shows that you’ve it a nerve( something that they didn’t like).
    God bless all these men on helping each other the real truth.
    Love and respect one another and Jesus Christ is Lord! 🙏

    • Chdjamel Tech
      Chdjamel Tech 2 күн бұрын

      Jesus christ never claimed that he is God, he's a prophet peace upon him we love him as we love all the prophets.

    • shane boutilier
      shane boutilier 9 күн бұрын

      you can drink water. it is good for you

  • HorseHead Nebula
    HorseHead Nebula 9 күн бұрын

    Dr Jordan, intellectually out shine them all, more realistic and factual. Why your story is better than my story,applying psychology to theology speechless.

    HVAC-R STRONJAY 5 ай бұрын +466

    As a christain I have made respect for all 3 of you. This was a FASCINATING discussion such professional people politely disagreeing and having the most intelectual discussions. BRAVO

    • HZ JC
      HZ JC 18 күн бұрын

      laundry instruction by holey book: (65) chapter: ...Narrated Aishah:
      I used to wash the semen off the clothes of the prophet
      and even then I used to notice one or more spots on them. -
      Sahih al-bukhari 232, book 4, Hadith 98

    • Mu R
      Mu R 4 ай бұрын

      @Sushi Uchiha you asked if muslims will see heaven. Their literature (not sure if it's called hadith) says they will first be sent to hell and must walk on a thin line (thinner than the thickness of human hair) above the raging fire of hell, if they don't fall into fire then they will go to their heaven. Another source says that their sins would be heaped on Christians and Jews so they can escape hell.

    • Puerto Rican Prince 🇵🇷
      Puerto Rican Prince 🇵🇷 4 ай бұрын

      @Wesley Jakesta
      That doesn't even make sense. How does another man's work make you righteous ? You got to put in your own work. That Jesus Doctrine is just another way to avoid accountability for your sins. Stop using Jesus as a scapegoat. Jesus himself said keep the Commandments

    • Wesley Jakesta
      Wesley Jakesta 4 ай бұрын

      @Puerto Rican Prince 🇵🇷 We are not righteous by ourselves. Only Jesus allows us to be righteous.

  • Paolo Rafael
    Paolo Rafael Ай бұрын +2

    Wow so inspiring how these 3 men sat together and listened to each other. I pray for everyone to come to Christ though, because we on ourselves are not good enough and never will be to enter heaven, so we need God to clothe us with his rightousness by the sacrifice of the word made flesh the spotless lamb and son of man and God, Jesus Christ. May the Holy Spirit touch our hearts and forsake the fleeting fleshly pleasures and replace them with spiritual treasures like love, forgiveness and understanding.

  • Sheyla Abarca
    Sheyla Abarca Ай бұрын +2

    I thank God for touching Mr.Peterson's heart with the Holy Spirit, so that He in His wisdom knew that Mr.Peterson would know how to word and explain Jesus's life , work and miracles in such wonderful ways that his platform has made other men and women into Jesus Christ believers. God is the One and Only who sacriced His only son, Jesus Christ to redeem us from our sins. Blessed be His holy name. ✝️🛐🛡🗡👑🕊🙏

  • Stardust
    Stardust Ай бұрын

    I wanted to start a dialogue stupidly and badly 👌🏽😂 Respect for the honesty 😊

  • Richard Conn
    Richard Conn Ай бұрын +8

    Every knee shall bow, every tongue shall confess.

    • Ryo JS
      Ryo JS 9 күн бұрын +3

      To God and God Alone
      not a man named Jesus AS
      For even he says the Greatest Commandment is the First

    • Ramona Keyes
      Ramona Keyes 24 күн бұрын +5

      That Jesus Christ is Lord!

  • Severn Gaming Network
    Severn Gaming Network Ай бұрын +1

    42:33 he made up that line on the spot right?! You can see him thinking it through... Manifestly an incredibly artistic "way with words" to formulate such a word image in such emergent fashion 🤯

  • Richard Amin
    Richard Amin 5 ай бұрын +409

    I do love the way they find pockets of moments to laugh, joke and bring levity in their discussion of serious topics. Laughter definitely brings people together

    • Perry Griffin
      Perry Griffin Ай бұрын

      Urgh jealous bickering well done guys

    • Mohamed Mohamed
      Mohamed Mohamed 5 ай бұрын

      @clacsonornamental We love the Prophet more than our families and mothers. What’s is you expect?

  • GrahamGreene
    GrahamGreene Ай бұрын

    I love Jordan Peterson's Honesty. True Norman. He just came out with it straight up. Lets get this right or hell will be unleashed.

  • Brian Farley
    Brian Farley 16 күн бұрын +6

    Petersen is brilliant. I’m a Catholic and have been trying to dive more into my faith and Petersens insights are quite brilliant.

    • Omar Sabeur
      Omar Sabeur Күн бұрын

      @Hasan Tariq exactly

    • Hasan Tariq
      Hasan Tariq Күн бұрын +1

      While you're at it, I'd also suggest trying to study a bit about other religions without any bias as well.

    • Omar Sabeur
      Omar Sabeur 2 күн бұрын +1

      Have fun man , theology is very interesting and therapeutic to ingest. Esoterica is good if you don't mind listening to a Rabbi . Muslim Skeptic is really good content too.

  • David Geo
    David Geo 5 күн бұрын

    my brain expands every time Jordan talks

  • Montgomery
    Montgomery 26 күн бұрын +1

    The ultimate genius in human spirit

  • Johann Cilliers
    Johann Cilliers 7 күн бұрын

    Absolutely loved this discussion. I believe a very important point to bring up next time is the book of Acts. Most people believe that it should not be called the Acts of the Apostles but rather The Acts of The Holy Spirit as Jesus said that The Helper (The Holy Spirit) will come after His ascension. If the question is to provide proof that Jesus was the divinity that He claimed to be, the release of the Holy Spirit points to it. This will then lead to a complicated point because the Holy Spirit can only be experienced and embraced by full submission and surrender.

  • Sandra Pendleton
    Sandra Pendleton 3 ай бұрын +690

    This is what happens when you have a difference of opinion, get heated, STAY in the room and LISTEN to the others WHY. Loved this.

    • Faiza Faiza
      Faiza Faiza 18 күн бұрын

      @HZ JC Prophet Muhammad PBUH wasn't like pedophile church fathers....do you consider Joseph 90 a pedophile who married Mary 12? Or Issac who married 3/6 years old Rebekah???

    • HZ JC
      HZ JC 18 күн бұрын

      holey Mohd, child sexual abuser:Mohd, child sexual abuser:
      (36) chapter: ...narrated Aisha:
      allah’s messenger said (to me), “you were shown to me in a dream...”
      - Sahih al-Bukhari 5125, book 67, Hadith 61.
      (10) chapter: ...Narrated A isha:
      A isha reported that allah’s apostle married her when she was six years old, and he (the holy prophet) took her to his house when she was nine, and when he (the holy prophet) died she was eighteen years old.
      - Sahih Muslim 1422d, book 16, Hadith 84.

    • Hanna Wurst
      Hanna Wurst Ай бұрын

      Education helps! There are 2 different titles Son of God!
      One relates to creation (humans, angels, demons)
      One relates to the Word of God!What your book doesn't know

  • Carol Leathers
    Carol Leathers 18 күн бұрын

    I am no intellectual but I know in my heart that we were designed to be reconciled to God (in relationship with Him) and to extend love and kindness to others, as an example, so others will want a relationship with God, also.
    None of us know the absolute truth until we stand in His presence. Do good.

  • Dont mess Strike
    Dont mess Strike 24 күн бұрын +13

    Im loyal to christansty follower of Christ i read Bible everyday! On aramic and English ✝️🛐 im proud to be christ dotter✝️💞 bud i respect Jordan and this man beacuse i love see people can talk without kill. God bless you all 🛐✝️🙏

    • Ramy Amouri
      Ramy Amouri 17 сағат бұрын

      Tbh , the bible is full of contradictions and errors , i can't follow a religion that it's book contains wrong words , Quran in the other hand have 0 errors , 0 contradictions, and it makes sense to a simple human

    • Chdjamel Tech
      Chdjamel Tech 2 күн бұрын +1

      Corrupted book, with a lot of errors and contradictions.

  • Ryan McChesney
    Ryan McChesney 25 күн бұрын +1

    Fantastic work, all three of you. We dont all have to convert to muslim to get allong..

  • Hector Miranda
    Hector Miranda Ай бұрын

    Wow, what an amazing presentation.

  • Benny Backflop
    Benny Backflop Ай бұрын +2

    As much as I love JP I found his responses in this interview could have been more concise.

  • Damienne Bateman
    Damienne Bateman 3 ай бұрын +606

    I've been waiting for a conversation on this level for 3 decades.
    It would be helpful to all people regardless of religious persuasion, for atleast a part 2 and more, for us all to develop understandingand acceptance of each other and self.
    Thank you to all sides for letting us in on this discussion

    • nicolvin zz
      nicolvin zz 2 ай бұрын

      @HZ HZ even if he is a thug, he still managed to make some interesting points. For example his challenge to Jordan about the “why” was quite interesting. I used to be Christian, am now atheist but this challenge seemed accurate to me.
      As an atheist for me to try and be the best version of myself I have to think of a bunch of attributes that I think are good and then aspire to live up to that. This version of myself is going to be limited because I may not know what the best attributes are and even if I did maybe this is still a weaker approach.
      A believer on the other hand is aiming at divine infinity. They don’t even have to know the list of things they are aiming for because the belief that they cannot fully grasp perfection is already built in. They can aim to be the best version of themselves still knowing that compared to the divine they are not even close so there’s always more they can be doing.
      It’s a much higher goal and also more humble because it means putting the ideal so far away from yourself that you could never become arrogant.
      This was some of the wisdom I took away and I want to figure out how to have this type of divine inspiration without being a religious believer

    • Last Testament
      Last Testament 2 ай бұрын

      * Quran confirms who Jesus really was. When Jews refused Jesus, Allah/God sent down Quran through prophet Muhammad.
      * *Allah's message to Jews:* Jesus was really a God's prophet for Jews /Israelites. Jesus was sent to purify & enforce Torah Law that was neglected by most Jews at that time. But most Jews rejected him and accused him of claiming to be God (Quran 5:116,117).
      * *Allah's message to Christians:* Jesus was a God's prophet for Jews, but Jesus was not God incarnate, nor sin atoner / sacrifice on the cross. It wasn't Jesus who was crucified (Quran 5:72, 4:157).
      In the Bible itself, *God forbids human sacrifice* (Jeremiah 32: 35 & Leviticus 18:21 & 20: 2-5).

    • سعود المقبلي
      سعود المقبلي 2 ай бұрын

      @T S ماذا تقول انتر😂

    • Samandmckenziedoes
      Samandmckenziedoes 2 ай бұрын

      @Sione Nuku hey brother , thanks for the response .. cp is worth the dive , shouldn’t take more than a day of watching or listening since his identity has never been revealed but he has stated he is the highest level scholar of Arabic ..
      doesn’t matter and it’s ancedotal coming from me anyway .. hard to listen after some time as he seems to stir up certain Indonesian Muslims to fury and it gets rather funny in my oppinon but at the end of the day It gets redundant ..
      I’m no scholar in these matters but the Bible not being available in my oppinon supports my claim of the Quran being a loose retelling of the Bible and it shows in its incompleteness..
      I’ve only heard versus or read them but they just seem like retelling of Old Testament stories .. New Testament is the same way , almost a butcher job and the Muslims view of Jesus actualy is a bit laughable …
      so Jesus was not divine , just a man who will miraculously come back to life do some stuff but then get married and die normaly ?? And he wasn’t crucified but his body exchanged for another ? No one is buying that ,it sounds pretty elemantary ?
      I think hadiths are similar to the church fathers .. oppinon and perceptions of the scriptures , and I’m ok with that for fun and learning but I won’t use them as any defense or attack of any part of the cannon we have .it seems the difference being , manh Muslims don’t speak Arabic so it’s a disadvantage to argue the text when a person can’t actualy read the text and only the Arabic is considered authentic ? The Talmud seems to be in a category all by itself as it in my oppinon is filthy , extreme and in my oppinon written by demons and evil men !
      I find Muslim people to be very intelligent , dedicated and extremely disciplined which many if not most Christians could and should learn a thing or two from .
      I also find Muslims to be very spiritual which I like but somehow they tend to get very materialistic and legalistic when confronted with the trinity or any thing related to creator God , His spirit and His word all of which I find basic and easy so it confuses me …
      I might also add CP shows very solidly in the Arabic text the full support of three yet one …
      like I said I personaly don’t know becaue I don’t speak the language but this view is supported by many Arabic scholars so I tend to believe it , the same argument can be found in Jewsish scriptures as well and they donot support the notion of Jesus being the Word of God or the Son of God or the implication that Jesus may also be God …
      my reading of the Old Testament fully supports these claims and the earliest manuscripts also support this untill the masoretes altered the text with markings That only they can understand which makes me automaticaly not trust ?
      For me all we as regular humans can do is love God wirh all we have , love our neighbor as we love ourself and treat people how we want to be treated !
      And yessir much love from the very red state of Alabama.
      Always wanted to visit Australia , an amazing country from the videos I’ve watched but corona virus changed all of that … I’ll stay in Alabama and watch videos 😉
      Hope I don’t offend you sir I think Christian’s , Orthodox Jews and Muslims could all learn alot from each other

  • Azel Patrick
    Azel Patrick 17 күн бұрын +2

    When two cultures meet, there is always a clash

  • Anita Seeram
    Anita Seeram 20 күн бұрын +1

    love this guy...what a beautiful heart!

  • ich gehe meinen weg, du gehst deinen weg

    mashallah, these men having a civilized convo