I saw video while back showing how you take the battery and scrape it and presto just like new battery I even had phones I thought were done for and went back took battery out and craped the prongs on it and Bam❗phone started to work again
@Joey no just my personal opinion,I bought a second hand J7 prime last year ,the only thing I replaced was the screen and charging system the previous owner used it for about 2 years.I can use for a long time without charging
What I miss about old phones, is when your phone died, just being able to take the battery out and put in a fresh one really fast. LIKE HOW IT SHOULD BE!!!!@
@Tyler N The Galaxy S5 was IP67 and had removable batteries. It simply had a gasket around the back cover. I dropped that phone many times in water while hiking and never broke. I carried 4 extra batteries with me and when one was dead I'd just put in another one rather than having to recharge. It's been done before.
@darkracer125 a old degraded battery could last around 6 hours depending on how degraded it is. they have limited charge cycles due to the chemistry not any imposed superficial limits.
being able to take the battery out fast means loss of water proofing. they didn't hide the battery behind glued backing to annoy customers and prevent repair. they just dont want you to damage your phone replacing it and blame them for it.
The right to repair is so important, States must take a stand to support legislation to allow people to fix products they own with legitimate OEM parts and thereby shutting down the fake parts sellers. This in not just electronics or batteries; It includes mechanical parts for appliances, cars, and farm equipment.
I repair lots of things, but you must accept that if a manufacturer makes things to last and make things easy to repair, then the original purchase price for all items will be significantly higher
Thank you very much for this excellent & honest review of phone batteries. This shows the truth about the world having so much corruption in business & political dealings. Like you said, it's best to get the batteries replaced from the manufacturers & not elsewhere just because you can save a few bucks!
Great job on the right to repair push. I hope the “average” person gets behind this and it’s no longer just the people that do the repairs that understand how important this truly is 😊
Videos like this spreads the word about the Right to Repair movement, and people should at least engage and demand repairable phones from manufacturers whenever something goes bad.
I mean, just buy things like the Librem, fairphone, framework, and hell even things like Mycroft are starting to crop up. People are rushing to regulation without even questioning if their problems are a result of their own making. Sure you pay a bit more up front (and no that isn't up charging, if the company is to achieve equal margins to one that sells your data or partners with bloatware they need to charge more up front) but phones like the Librem or Fairphone simply last longer since you can swap parts, laptops like the framework can be updated as you need, and assistants like mycroft can load community made packages to give them more features. It costs more up front in many cases sure, but the value gain is substantial, and frankly if you just want something cheap and robust, Apple, Samsung, etc. aren't where you should be looking in the first place.
Great video! I think this is an important topic for people to understand, regardless of how tech-savvy you are. Working in the repair industry, I urge people to use legitimate sources when it comes to getting a repair done, regardless if they do it themselves or not. For example, I had a gentleman come into our store today with a ZTE phone. His charging port went bad, so he went to some "repair shop" to get it looked at (he didn't know/disclose the shop). They tore down the device, desoldered the port, then said they couldn't get the parts and had this gentleman a box with his phone torn down. I'm disappointed that someone would put this guy in a position like this. Especially since he's older. I said to him that he should come to us in the future for any needs as we would never do that to a customer, regardless if we were able to resolve their situation. So again, I urge you. Do your research and only work with reputable sources. Doesn't matter if you're doing the repair yourself or outsourcing it to a manufacturer or an authorized repair partner.
@Mcroostr it takes one to know one. This one sticks to you. I grew up in cars that had no seat belts and and rode up front. Air bags can be dangerous just like other things in the car. Most accidents can be prevented it's the morons that speed and weave in and out of lanes so I can meet them at the next traffic light. I have no sympathy for all careless drivers that text and drive and drive reckless. We had no phones in cars and other problems in cars. I usually don't give trolls my time of day but I made an exception. Virginia has the best traffic laws if you go over 10 miles an hour you are charged as a reckless driver. And radar detectors are illegal and the highway patrol has equipment to catch law breakers. 73
@Mcroostr Well my father helped design many a frame even holds some patents in the manufacturing of them. I grew up hearing about structural engineering and precision manufacturing on the dinner table. Funny you should mention carbon monoxide as we have seen many new vehicles get recalls for carbon monoxide leaking into the cab, my old truck never has had this problem where my ny newer vehicle does. My newer vehicle is always in the shop yet my classic is always reliable. Reason why I know the levels of carbon monoxide in my cars? Good old dad taught me to keep sensors on the cab. Why do new cars have problems with this? Exhaust design and terrible dog house design allow too much air from the engine compartment into the cab along with substandard metals in the exhaust systems causing bad seals and corrosion that equals exhaust leaks into your cab.... new car? Instantly spend a couple grand to replace all that exhaust because what's standard is substandard. The fact is those old style frames and body were alot tougher the only thing that's improved for safety is air bags and seat belts. I've worked tow truck for many years and I can speak of the damages and injury I've seen. Most newer cars fold in on its self when a collision occurs causing instant death of the people inside. In other words your talking out of your @$$
@Kevin Carpenter that happens occasionally, people lost heads often in old cars. You’re falling for the “but sometimes” logic trap, where something is 10 times safer but occasionally people still die, so you’ll throw out the baby with the bath water and say older is better. Don’t worry, it’ll be over soon grandpa.
@bill Weirdo are you a safety engineer? I didn’t think so, your old junker might survive the wreck, but your head will be rolling down the highway, I’ve looked for these heads before and it ain’t a pretty sight. Drive classic all you want, I love old cars, but for gods sake, don’t drive kids around in those old Carbon monoxide puking tanks.
I'll never forget how the look on my Grandma's face made me bust out laughing after she asked what my wife's recharging brick was and I explained to her that wife's iPhone battery was glued in (she's seen me change the battery in my phone a bunch of times) and the look on her face clearly communicated what she was thinking, which was "well, who's the idiot who designed that?"
Companies that buy bin loads of parts to make iphones, from different other phones just put em together. usign glue or whatever and sell em. the warrantly lasts one week or ::POOF:: company gone
The idea of an internal battery opened the doors for scammers... The ones that put a non-removable glass cover on back of your phone and don't let you replace the battery at all.
@MaeMae Of course you can, but point is the convenience. I'm yet to find a glass panel that you can easily remove with your fingernail and attach back as easily.
Totally on board with Right to Repair!! So glad you talked about that. So many reasons to have strong right to repair laws - including climate change and reasonable costs for the consumer.
Totally agree, there are plenty of scammers out there and honesty is not something they’re interested in but in making money out of people. When I need a replacement battery, I’d always go to the product retailer and pay more but I’ll know that it’ll be genuine and will have a warranty.
I avoided phones with built in batteries as long as I could but now, I'll have to agressively pry my phone apart to get it back to how it was new. They did this to make phones thinner as well as getting half of people to buy a new phone rather than go thru this
@Julie Levesque how are you still using the phone with the 2G-3G shutdown? you cant possibly be calling anyone with it. i dont think there is any 4G-5G flip phones.
@Julie Levesque I do so much through my phone that you can't do with yours so your humble brag ISN'T really that great imo. I mean I record my work timesheet & sign it, pay all my bills, track my credit score, pay my IRS taxes, use GPS, set up appointments online, use the internet, watch movies, control the things in my house, buy things.... The list keeps going. You? You can change your battery, call, text, maybe take a shit pic, & take shitty notes. Sure you'll save money over someone with my Galaxy S20+ in terms of money spent to purchase, but the things I do with my phone ALSO save me a FUCK LOAD of time & money & aggravation because I can access & do so much more than you can through my phone. There are trade offs & value ISN'T just tracked through 1 aspect of looking at things.
@Pochou i saw fairphone its cool kinda expensive but the thing it has replaceable battery but its li-ion and liion wears out fast lipo is indestructible if not abused i never changed the battery on a smartphone with lipo
Check out Fairphone 4, they sell original parts for it, have instructions on how to change parts of the phone yourself, and the phones are made easy to disassemble
@Concert_Rat I know somebody that took an Ipad for a battery replacement. They told her it was not fixable and she needed to buy a newer one. Bullshit! They are overpriced to begin with
It's so hard to source original batteries for phones. Effectively it's planned obsolesence. We need law where manufacturers have to provide spares at reasonable price for 10 years or something like that. It's protecting consumers and the environment.
@muddy hotdog and if you actually give a shit about the environment instead of talking about it in youtube comments you'll do something about it and buy phones with replaceable batteries. And if enough people agree with you that it's a concern, and you can convince people you're right, they'll do the same.
@Tyler N true but frankly I'd just say avoid Apple in the first place if you give a shit. Apple can be good in some areas, particularly if you have apple care, but generally they'll still try to fuck you over. It's better to just buy from a company that respects you from the start.
Or just buy an iPhone? You can literally carry an iPhone to an Apple Store, pay $49-69 depending on the model, and they install a new OEM battery within 2 hours. Old one gets recycled. They will replace any iPhone battery as long as it’s a 5s or newer.
Hi Hugh, just wanted to thank you for this video, after watching it I managed to find an (almost) local manufacturer who puts their brand on the batteries. Immediately I felt more confidence in buying from them. (And the batteries are actually good - what a surprise) Unfortunately I'm still struggling to find a reputable seller for Android batteries, but there's a website that specialises in batteries so I'm hoping I'll finally get a good replacement for my poor dying Nokia 8.1. You're really helping my side hustle man, I will be forever grateful, I'm lovin' this hobby
Great video. I would be interested to see you test out in real world battery tests some of these extended capacity batteries. I did a diy replacement for my 6s with a flyinlink battery and it is significantly better than the original battery but does take longer to charge and gets hotter. I feel I was lucky though as there are so many fakes about
Love your vids. So interesting and honest. You cover topics that are diverse. With your help I hope to finally have the confidence to replace the old, almost dead, battery on my old Galaxy S8 for my 10 year old grandson andv6 year old granddaughter to play on. I really could not afford to get it done at a shop. I think I will enjoy having a go. Thank you.
This was a very well done video and I enjoyed it. However I just want to point out that your BN930 battery looks like a second generation Note 7 Battery, not the first generation prone to fire. Most cell phones nowadays have a rectangular motherboard or L-shaped motherboard with a rectangular battery aligned right up against the edge of the board. The Note 7 had no faults in its board design other than its shape, which indirectly caused the battery issue. The Note 7 board is nearly an L-shape, but with a "cut corner". As a result of having two 45% angles in close proximity rather than a true 90 degree corner, the battery could not be shaped as a true rectangle and still fit in place without some wasted space. Two battery manufacturers were selected by Samsung to create matching pentagonal batteries, which looked like a standard rectangle with one cut corner. Neither manufacturer, nor Samsung, tested these flawed pentagonal battery designs thoroughly enough and the phone was rushed to market. Batteries from either source had the same defect which led to thermal runaway failures. After Samsung recalled millions of Note 7 phones, they solved the issue permanently by simply building a shorter rectangular battery. It was slightly lower capacity, but allowed them to safely refurbish every Note 7. The 100% safe, lower capacity phones were then sold as the Note Fan Edition. So if you see a rectangular N930 battery, that is technically a Note Fan Edition cell and not a Note 7 cell.
In ideal world: YES, but not in this world. Look how much Tax Apple or Amazon pays...At least they could pay the tax in the country they sell the products in and not skip on paying it. This is missing money in the pool, that, everybody who pays taxes, will need to top up.
Glad to see more eyes on this. I've been testing batteries for capacity using a custom setup for years to get refunds when I receive batteries like this.
Valuable information, it’s no surprise the knock-off batteries are all over eBay. People need to wise up, you still don’t get something for nothing, even with a pretty label wrapped around it. Thank you for helping to expose this information.
@Joey Dunn there's a big difference difference actually because apple is just like a console, both the hardware and software are private from Apple and you either choose their smaller one or the bigger one or whatever. With android just like a computer you have many competition, you can choose between dozens of different screen styles\types, many different cameras, many different custom hardware, many different styles, models, colors and whatever since every year hundreds of android smartphone come out from brand A to Z... And if you want mostly price-per-performance each year there's always something with latest best Snapdragon huge amounts of ram that you will likely never use for like 500 to 600eur, you never get best apple performance for that price.
@guily6669 unless y’all buying cheap 50 dollar android phones from wal mart then android is just as expensive so I don’t know where that argument comes from 😂 people be having the latest tablet android that cost well over a grand in their pocket saying “iPhone is so expensive I would never”
You can actually find genuine "new" batteries for older phones. "new" meaning never unpacked since manufacturing date years ago, and as result, completely discharged through self-discharge and dead as a doornail.
@bermudaguy03 Apple makes extra batteries for sale to Authorized Repair Centers and Authorized Service Providers. How these would make it into the hands of other people I'm not sure but I've personally swapped out an iPhone 7 battery for one with a manufacturer date of 2020
almost true. they dont make extras for sale so its out of a doa fone like from a carrier. most parts are stripped carrier returns that are icloud or google locked . otherwise somebody reverse engineers and makes the parts. takes about 6months to get a good working aftermarket part. in some cases the aftermarket part is better because its newer tech and not ripped out of a dead fone
Maximum respect for you *Highgizmo,* it cannot be denied that you are one of those who work the most in the recovery genre 👷🏻📲💻💵 I hope one day I can be like you in recovery moves, from Mexico I will continue forward, blessings to all Heres…
this is such a good and helpful video! tech repair channels like this should have done these vids yrs ago tho when these products started hitting the market. could have saved a lot of people from getting scammed :(
Anyone else remember the days when the battery was the entire back of the phone? You could buy a second battery with a charger that just charged the battery (like 18v battery tools do now) and you just rotated the batteries, one on the phone and one on the charger. Then we got to the golden age of phones where the battery tech had exceeded the capability of the phones, so one charge lasted you a whole week. Those were the days. These days smartphones chew so much power some of them are lucky to last the day without needing a charge.
That Samsung battery you don’t want belongs to a Note7 N930F, so yeah, definitely avoid that one, thanks for the video Hugh, too many fall for these scams so it’s good to unearth their scrupulous practices :)
phones were exploding due to the battery not having any ventillation to allow for natural expansion and depression, also the battery couldnt cool down.
This applies to portable consoles too. I once bought a 3rd party replacement battery for my 3DS. It advertised a higher capacity, but had much lower durability.
I went to a reputable service center in the city, I was quoted $400 (Approx USD295. 60) to replace, inclusive workmanship, after the staff checked on the system. I was stunned by the reply, I could just buy a midrange phone for that amount. I was really left speechless, maybe because my phone was a flagship model from 6 years ago. I asked twice to make sure that my ears wasn't blocked.
This applies to laptop batteries as well. I have an old Macbook Pro 2012. Bought a battery for it that had a great capacity after the original died. The replacement started dying after like two years though. The battery started to die after about 2 hours of use instead of the original 4 hours. So, I bought another replacement and that one just SUCKED. It held a charge for like 30 mins tops. I swapped back to the original replacement and 3 years later, STILL get about 2 hours out of it. And then there are laptop chargers.. ugh! Just ugh! I bought a knock-off charger for the laptop after the original died and the friggen thing sparked every time I plugged it into my computer. It also got stupid hot and guess what? Didn't actually charge my computer. (And yes, I made sure it was the right charger for my computer) I plugged it in like 3 times before sending it back... and I'm lucky it didn't ruin my computer.
I'm for the right to repair. Let the movement grow and gain traction. I would say governments have been a disappointment in this regard because this should be a no-brainer elementary right for people and good for the environment
This is a great video. I’ve seen batteries on ebay before that advertise 60% higher capacity or more but the battery is physically the same size as the original and I wondered if anyone actually falls for that. As if Apple wouldnt be squeezing every possible mAh into the space available.
My experience in replacing multiple phone and tablet batteries has been the opposite - most of the cheap replacement batteries I've bought online have been as good or better as the original manufacturer ones. I think part of the reason for this is that the manufacturers have a profit motive to place cheap, poor batteries in phones (lower manufacturing costs and encouraging replacement in about a year). To be fair, I think consumers have an unrealistic expectation of how long these batteries can last, especially at optimal performance. If you want to keep your phone or tablet going and your a heavy user, you really should replace the batteries every 1-2 years.
I would love to know where you purchase these "good" batteries ! I have purchased five batteries online for my older 4rth. Gen. Ipod color type. All failed after only three Months sitting in the Ipod. Even with bi weekly charges.
well done here thank you. Not many people would have access to a battery tester like yours [but I'd love one.] Whats your opinion of cheap USB test meters for judging the capacity of your "new" replacement battery? I just bought a replacement for my Samsung S10 5G which is supposed to be 4400mah but after 3 cycles I'm only getting 2200mah as recorded going in from 12% to 100%. have I been scammed?
Excellent video, thanks for sharing your tests, I blame the big shopping outlet on the internet it’s full of scammers. I was court out by a buying replacement for my Mac book pro 3 years ago.
I just want to say thank you for this video. I was about to buy a battery from a website and this video made me question its legitimacy. And a good thing I did cause (one the surface, it looked totally legit) it turned out the website itself had terrible reviews, terrible customer service, bad products and questionably scammy.
This video just confirms that we have to take a stance to the huge corporations, and claim our Right to repair. Not being able to buy a genuine replacement battery is (almost) criminal. It's one step up from the 3000 euro per liter price for printer ink.
Quick question: the iPhone 13 pro is looking amazing, but I’m torn on not wanting to give my money to Apple as they have locked every important component behind software to prevent replacement. They are on top of the performance and battery charts, but should I head over to Samsung or someone else like that who doesn’t put these kinds of barriers in place for repair? Thanks for the informative video.
iPhones aren't really that good. They are equal to the other Androids basically. There are better phones out there for way less money. Apple is always multiple generations behind in tech too. Worse screens and bigger notches for example. Now when there isn't any noticeable speed difference the only reason to get a iPhone is for video recordings. Pixels still take better photos along with lots of other phones. Modern iPhones are just overhyped from their past reputation when Androids actually were worse. I guess that stigma will linger for a few years more.
One thing for sure is that you never skimp on buying ligit batteries. Looks like I'll be keeping going to Apple to fix my phones until I get wise like the Dr here. Great video Hugh, big thanks
The last bit was super useful - get known batteries. With my Galaxy S4 I purchased several back-up batteries. Never had a problem, and it was so great to have full use ability all day. That phone is still working - was my back-up after I switched to Apple. I check the battery condition regularly to make sure it is not puffed, and do a discharge cycle. Thing still lasts for 8 hours if radios are turned off!
This whole battery degrading thing is the reason why I insisted so much on buying a very high capacity phone like Redmi 9T or Galaxy A52. (Got the prior as a gift from my parents when I turned 18) I knew 2 years down the battery capacity would degrade so bad, and finding genuine battery wouldnt be easy either. I still wanna keep my phone in the next 2-5 years..
Yup, as I attempted to find replacement batteries for a couple of old phones I had to use as secondary devices, I quickly realized that it's nearly impossible to find the OEM batteries. I have since then gave up on trying to replace batteries on phones or any other device that uses these lipo batteries.
I bought a cheap off-brand battery for my Nintendo 3ds once. It claimed to have more than twice the capacity. However it was also ~2,5 times larger than the original and grew over the batteryslot. It came with an extended rear cover to fit the larger battery. I never made a direct comparision but I can confirm that the batterylife of my 3ds increased by alot so it defenitly worked! Also the increased size made it much more comfortable to hold. So that cheap battery was actually a good purchase.
That's a really good video... very informative. As for the batteries needing to be replaced. Its the high Amp quick charge that's killing their capacity. I charge mine at a maximum of 500mA....takes longer but the charge lasts me about a week.. Also sealing the phone batteries inside the phone is just a way of selling you the next model when the internal battery becomes no longer functional.
Thank you for this video. Buying replacement batteries for my samsung galaxy S2 pretty much putt me of buying any replacements ever. I bought two and both were way crappier then my 5 year old S2 battery. It's a shame no company has stepped up to the plate to make proper replacement batteries.
Tip for Sony Ericsson batteries: they *always* have the full datecode on show. For example at 5:52 it says 17W07 on the fake and 10W05 on the real label, denoting 2017 week 7 and 2010 week 5 respectively. When Sony and Ericsson split, Sony kept the labeling scheme for their batteries mostly similar, including the yyWww datecode (at least to the point where they started gluing batteries in as well)
I’ve had good luck with loctus brand high capacity batteries on eBay I’ve bought several to replace on iPhone 6s,7,8 and SE and all last longer than the original. I was shocked it wasn’t a ripoff. Highly recommended.
Great video with brilliant info, thanks I was considering replacing my iPhone 8 Plus, but by the end of this year, Apple will no longer update my phone, so there’s no point in replacing the battery, but your video is really good info to know 👍
I find them darned good, batteries, as they are. I mean real ones. To be honest, I haven't personally had to replace any since they are glued in, which is a trend I was a fierce opponent of. I now realise there was one positive other aspect to that: it prevented too many loose batteries from laying around. And indeed they actually only started gluing them in after they had improved enough to justify it. With old devices (in case of Samsung, up to and including the S5 in the day) not only would batteries not last longer than two years, they also wouldn't hold much charge. And no replacement would even come close to that original's quality - or its lack thereof. Since I haven't had trouble, they don't age much any more and keep going remarkably long, even when you have like a four year old second hand smartphone. I think that is due to both the batteries having improved a lot and also battery management now effectively protecting your cells so well they indeed don't age a lot any more at all!
That's exactly what I do, buying batteries of "other" brands. They're often not as good as originals but they're close, and much better than the "originals" on ebay or amazon which are ALWAYS fake.
Great video review - never even thought about looking under the sticker, but I also got hit by a scam battery once. Purchased it for an old Samsung (with a removable battery), needless to say, the battery was useless - was worse than the many years old original battery (which itelf had lost all abilities to hold a decent charge). Also I agree, we need to do something about Right To Repair, there are certain companies (one in particular) that tries to hinder 3rd party repair.
Great video. I too have experienced the same thing with replacement laptop and dyson batteries. There was a seller on ebay selling replacement "high capacity" batteries for dyson vacuum cleaners claiming 3500 mah capacity. Once I took it apart, I found it was just 1500 mah. Reported that to ebay and they did nothing about it. In short, I believe most replacement batteries sold that come from china are bogus in some way. If sellers such as Amazon and eBay acted on this information, then a lot of these battery scams would disappear.
I was going to cheat on your trivia question but I’m the process of typing in my search bar “what Samsung battery wouldn’t you want to get” I remembered the catastrophe Samsung had a few years back with there release of the note 7. Thanks for the info you provide. I have gotten into fixing devices for people and when I have a question or before I open a device for the first time I regularly check you out just so I have a heads up of any hurtles that may come up. Thanks
I love the one labeled "CRAZY". Your phone keeps dying and someone asks, "What's wrong with your phone?". You reply, "Oh, nothing ...it's just my CRAZY battery".
Unfortunately for my Dell tablet from 2012, the only option is knock offs. I’ve bought one as a replacement using random choice and while it does work, charges and maintains as good a charge as the original, it is a tiny bit fatter and didn’t fit 100%. It is most definitely a knock off as the tablet I bought is a bit obscure and I cannot see Dell still producing original batteries
When I got tired of my phone's (LG V20) worn battery, I was delighted to find that LG had a replacement listed on their site, and it worked a charm. Have had this phone for 5 years now, and love it to bits still.
This is a much much needed video to spread awareness, not only these Chinese manufacturers lie about the capacity and wrap old batteries in new gold stickers they are also prone to swelling and combust due to old age, I had this happen with a Samsung Note 5 replacement (gold) battery. I am glad the right to repair movement is going to take off soon.
Imagine if we standardized cell phone batteries in some way. Similar to what happened with alkalines that eventually were adopted by most electronic devices. Instead of every phone manufacturer having the cells custom made to fit in their flagship phone just to be difficult to remove. Oh sure they will tell you it's because it's a waaay better cell that lasts longer than the competition, even though it isn't and doesn't. Imagine if there were only three or four cell phone battery types based on the size or capacity instead of the hundreds of different ones now.
As a lifetime career service tech in several industries, it has been my experience that any replacement part that states, "professional quality" or "genuine part" ... ISN'T ! You might save some cash buying a knockoff part but will inevitably be disappointed. As the saying goes ... The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
I was almost sure you were going to unwrap a Willy Wonker candy bar with the Golden Ticket! Seriously though, this is good information because, my iPhone S6 just recently came to an end. This is very helpful information. Thank you!
I recently bought a new smartphone, a budget phone but it has a back that pops off and a battery that can be replaced. Having that wasn't a dealmaker, and not having it wouldn't have been a dealbreaker, but it was a nice touch. It has a headphone jack too.
Thank you for this very interesting and highly informative video! Subscribed. I bought what purported to be a genuine Nokia N95 8GB battery and it was immediately obvious that it was garbage, actually using it only emphasised the fact!
As long as “anti-right to repair” is being pushed by manufacturers, people have little to no incentive to pay xx amount for a genuine battery, when they can pay x amount online, and get one… But on the other hand, if/when manufacturers start selling genuine parts, nothing stops them from charging exorbitant amounts to discourage people from repairing their devices… just so they buy new devices.
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!
@Matt Polton so again my question: If you claim that (for some people) the CPU in a 4 year old phone is to slow - tell me one app where you can feel the slowness. (bigger screens, higher refresh rate - sure that makes sense. You can feel the difference. But a 4 year old flagship CPU vs a modern flagship CPU - where do you feel the difference?)
I don't have much choice. There isn't only 1 store in my country where I can buy battery replacements be it for phones, or Bluetooth speakers. As such, i have this horrible tendency to buy batteries in that store even if it's available in other stores. It's also weird that when I tried to buy from another store online, they happen to be labeled as coming from the same address. Probably a coincidence (Also I am sarcastic on this last sentence).
When removing the battery you should inject a small amount of IPA, heat the device a little on a 80c hot plate screen facing down for a couple minutes and lift the battery up with a suction cup. It will leave no marks, will not puncture or bend the battery and can be reused assuming it's not faulty. Using a metal tool like this will leave marks and if you are not careful it can puncture the battery or in some cases damage whats under the battery like flexes etc.
The fact that whichever company (likely based in China) making those unbranded gold batteries can just fake the wear levels like how similar scammers in the automotive industry would use custom devices to fake odometer readouts, really throws me off. I feel as though those kinds of companies make up most of what gives the Right to Repair movement a bad reputation, because they likely put fake labels on the batteries so they can make money without a care in the world. (This part invalidated due to the 5th reply to this comment) Faking the battery readouts could lead to the batteries exploding since the management chip wouldn't know that the battery cell already has tons of wear on it!
@Kaiying Chan I didn't get the analogy because to me methanol is the real thing. Add least for racers. I think it's hard on aluminum, but maybe they've worked that out by now. Ah the smell of nitro methane in the evening.
@ @Steve K “methanol” as opposed to “ethanol” i.e., the fake in contrast to the genuine. Just in case you have forgotten school chemistry methanol can cause blindness when substituted for true alcohol (which is ethyl alcohol or ethanol). I used to see such unfortunate ppl in clinical practice ; now I’m retired!
I bought a "high capacity" battery for my iPhone 6s in China many years ago. It didn't make any outrageous claims, I think it was just 10% more than the original. It worked like a treat, and easily got me through a full day in Beijing's harsh winters, where the original battery gave up after a few minutes. So, I guess it is all down to luck.
Right to repair. The problem there is the OEM will sell at an inflated price. Another comment, I fly RC planes and recently purchased 2 x "2200" mA batteries branded and new. A practical check shows that they are lucky to be pushing 1700mA.
I confirm, it happened to me with an ""OEM" samsung battery that was worst than the one i had already in my phone. Also maybe you can do a video on the older "new" phones. Exactly the same system with batteries but they sell them for few hundred $
Great video, good to know. For my iPhone 5s, after 5 years, I replaced battery only once in reputable shop, and the new one still holds good already for 4 years. Wouldn't be touching these "business" batteries.
I'll be honest, I probably fell for one of these, I replaced my phone battery a year or two ago, and while it was certainly better than the well used original, it wasn't even close to what it was to begin with. I had just assumed OS updates were causing increased use on the phone, and that is why it still wouldn't get through a full day anymore. And I don't have the testing equipment you do, so I can't be certain either. But this seems to most likely (especially since I got the exact same bag of part to open the phone with it).
@Kalkschwarz I had bought the Samsung S6 back in July 2015. IIRC, by 2019 I could only go about 1/2 a day before needing to recharge the battery. I made sure to carry the charger all the time. I finally got the S21 Plus earlier this year. I figure 5 1/2 years was a good time to get a new phone. The only big complaint I had about it was that like other hardware, it was not possible to upgrade the phone's OS after a while. I know I'll have the same problem with the S21 in a few years.
Another thing i hate is manufacturers using a strong adhesive to stick the battery to the frame. The pull tabs are built to last only for one or two years. It's really dangerous to remove the battery as it can sometimes puncture the battery or damage the phones frame or display due to the pressure. I spent a good 5 mins trying to carefully remove the battery from my phone. I really miss the good old days when phones were easy to open and repair
You should start doing videos on batteries bought on Amazon, bet most third party vendors on there are scammers. I was banned from reviewing or asking questions on there for just being honest about the products i was receiving, thinking the last straw was when i said i think vendors are selling irregulars and factory rejects...
I am sceptical even about batteries that are 100% legit on the outside. I read a few years ago that for some fakes of contemporary phones, even someone at Samsung couldn't tell if it's original (in which case "original" becomes a relative question)
I'm just wondering for those who are all about climate and pollution control how many years does it take for those batteries to bio-degrade? I'm also wondering about the potential for Lithium leaking into the ground water. Any thoughts?
A few years back I purchased a replacement "genuine" battery for my Nexus 5 and the capacity was significantly worse than the original worn out battery lol, I wish it was easy to get a quality battery for an affordable price.
Original battery worked for 5 years in my iPhone 5s, then each new one worked about a year. One worked for several months before making phone scorching hot when discharged. I’d say it is impossible to find a good one, so now I’m going to replace my devices as soon as battery degrades😾
Order from Taiwan or Hong Kong and your chances are much better to recive what you paid for, maybe Ameica will get off their DUFF and start manufaturing again, OH I forgot their are few if any left in our country that have the required knowledge to make anything of old country standards when we were very near the number one in the World. Thank GOD Japan is still around to supply us with first class quality and South Korea seems to make decent products as well.
This is even more sad considering they actually did sell original ones. At least the one I got was. Behaved just like new on day one and degraded just as quickly as the one the phone shipped with, going from one charge every two days to 30% at the end of the day in about 30 months.
Had the same issue with my Omen Gaming Laptop. Within Two years of purchase, the battery started to show signs of wear - this led to a nightmare of replaceable laptop batteries - mostly from AMAZON. The only help I got from HP was a link to their "approved third party" parts retailer... Still have not replaced the battery!!!
If you are using an old phone (around 4 years) it is almost impossible to find a genuine battery on web. Btw I believe there are trustable side industy batteries. I am using Nohon brand batteries on my LG phone and I can certainly say that they are even better than original LG batteries. But yes this experience can be different on other brand phones.
Thanks! I have always been leery of replacement batteries. One of the well-known web sites is probably where I should have gone for my most recent replacement battery, but I didn't think of that, and it was a dud.
A better law would be this: At the time of purchase, the mfg must allow you to purchase a genuine replacement battery. The battery might have a dongle so that you can top off the battery once per year to keep it in good condition
The EU wants all phones to be charged with a USB-C cable. I'd rather see the return of the removable battery so you can get it replaced easier l, faster and cheaper.
@Dylan White "Using the exact same batteries that are used now as a hot swap style batteries will easily increase cell phone related fires by 300%." Funny how that wasn't an issue when we had swappable batteries.
Most of these replacements are below original manufacturer's specifications, and there is quite a stockpile of them from the factory which manufactured the original battery. As a result, many are re-labelled, and after an original battery loses capacity in a device (mostly a phone), some of these replacements have improved performance, but it is a better idea to ascertain availability of the original, for a guaranty òf its capacity... Of course the price is much higher, but worth getting the extra life span of the battery...
When I had a slider phone, the cheapest & most practical way for me to get a legit battery replacement was to buy the whole phone again. The legit LG battery prices were higher than the going out of inventory phone.
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Soon, I promise. Next video will be out before next Sunday.
When
Can you also please link and shame these scammers you sell these products so we can avoid them
@Pawelossi Games and Consols flex
I saw video while back showing how you take the battery and scrape it and presto just like new battery I even had phones I thought were done for and went back took battery out and craped the prongs on it and Bam❗phone started to work again
And all of these scams could be prevented, if manufactures sold replacement parts directly and made their products serviceble
@Joey no just my personal opinion,I bought a second hand J7 prime last year ,the only thing I replaced was the screen and charging system the previous owner used it for about 2 years.I can use for a long time without charging
@Gamer Geek You heard it from Apple right?
But built in batteries last longer than removable ones,maybe it depends on the brand.
What I miss about old phones, is when your phone died, just being able to take the battery out and put in a fresh one really fast. LIKE HOW IT SHOULD BE!!!!@
@Vash Starwind power banks exist
@Tyler N The Galaxy S5 was IP67 and had removable batteries. It simply had a gasket around the back cover. I dropped that phone many times in water while hiking and never broke. I carried 4 extra batteries with me and when one was dead I'd just put in another one rather than having to recharge. It's been done before.
@darkracer125 a old degraded battery could last around 6 hours depending on how degraded it is.
they have limited charge cycles due to the chemistry not any imposed superficial limits.
being able to take the battery out fast means loss of water proofing.
they didn't hide the battery behind glued backing to annoy customers and prevent repair.
they just dont want you to damage your phone replacing it and blame them for it.
The right to repair is so important, States must take a stand to support legislation to allow people to fix products they own with legitimate OEM parts and thereby shutting down the fake parts sellers. This in not just electronics or batteries; It includes mechanical parts for appliances, cars, and farm equipment.
@DIYfu Spilt his coffee on his keyboard?
NOT IN MY LIFETIME!! WILL THAT HAPPEN
I repair lots of things, but you must accept that if a manufacturer makes things to last and make things easy to repair, then the original purchase price for all items will be significantly higher
Consumers these days aren't very savvy , nor are they interested in repairing thier own electronics, at least not the vast majority I've come across.
Thank you very much for this excellent & honest review of phone batteries. This shows the truth about the world having so much corruption in business & political dealings. Like you said, it's best to get the batteries replaced from the manufacturers & not elsewhere just because you can save a few bucks!
Great job on the right to repair push. I hope the “average” person gets behind this and it’s no longer just the people that do the repairs that understand how important this truly is 😊
Videos like this spreads the word about the Right to Repair movement, and people should at least engage and demand repairable phones from manufacturers whenever something goes bad.
I mean, just buy things like the Librem, fairphone, framework, and hell even things like Mycroft are starting to crop up. People are rushing to regulation without even questioning if their problems are a result of their own making. Sure you pay a bit more up front (and no that isn't up charging, if the company is to achieve equal margins to one that sells your data or partners with bloatware they need to charge more up front) but phones like the Librem or Fairphone simply last longer since you can swap parts, laptops like the framework can be updated as you need, and assistants like mycroft can load community made packages to give them more features. It costs more up front in many cases sure, but the value gain is substantial, and frankly if you just want something cheap and robust, Apple, Samsung, etc. aren't where you should be looking in the first place.
Right to repair!
@Graeme Lastname No its not
Great video! I think this is an important topic for people to understand, regardless of how tech-savvy you are. Working in the repair industry, I urge people to use legitimate sources when it comes to getting a repair done, regardless if they do it themselves or not.
For example, I had a gentleman come into our store today with a ZTE phone. His charging port went bad, so he went to some "repair shop" to get it looked at (he didn't know/disclose the shop). They tore down the device, desoldered the port, then said they couldn't get the parts and had this gentleman a box with his phone torn down.
I'm disappointed that someone would put this guy in a position like this. Especially since he's older. I said to him that he should come to us in the future for any needs as we would never do that to a customer, regardless if we were able to resolve their situation.
So again, I urge you. Do your research and only work with reputable sources. Doesn't matter if you're doing the repair yourself or outsourcing it to a manufacturer or an authorized repair partner.
@Jessica Jessca I would just start with the products you see in PRG’s videos. He wouldn’t recommend something we shouldn’t use
How do you find a reputable source
Imagine not being allowed to change the battery's in your remote control . Vote for RIGHT TO REPAIR!
@Mcroostr it takes one to know one. This one sticks to you. I grew up in cars that had no seat belts and and rode up front. Air bags can be dangerous just like other things in the car. Most accidents can be prevented it's the morons that speed and weave in and out of lanes so I can meet them at the next traffic light. I have no sympathy for all careless drivers that text and drive and drive reckless. We had no phones in cars and other problems in cars. I usually don't give trolls my time of day but I made an exception. Virginia has the best traffic laws if you go over 10 miles an hour you are charged as a reckless driver. And radar detectors are illegal and the highway patrol has equipment to catch law breakers. 73
@Mcroostr Well my father helped design many a frame even holds some patents in the manufacturing of them. I grew up hearing about structural engineering and precision manufacturing on the dinner table. Funny you should mention carbon monoxide as we have seen many new vehicles get recalls for carbon monoxide leaking into the cab, my old truck never has had this problem where my ny newer vehicle does. My newer vehicle is always in the shop yet my classic is always reliable. Reason why I know the levels of carbon monoxide in my cars? Good old dad taught me to keep sensors on the cab. Why do new cars have problems with this? Exhaust design and terrible dog house design allow too much air from the engine compartment into the cab along with substandard metals in the exhaust systems causing bad seals and corrosion that equals exhaust leaks into your cab.... new car? Instantly spend a couple grand to replace all that exhaust because what's standard is substandard. The fact is those old style frames and body were alot tougher the only thing that's improved for safety is air bags and seat belts. I've worked tow truck for many years and I can speak of the damages and injury I've seen. Most newer cars fold in on its self when a collision occurs causing instant death of the people inside.
In other words your talking out of your @$$
@Kevin Carpenter that happens occasionally, people lost heads often in old cars. You’re falling for the “but sometimes” logic trap, where something is 10 times safer but occasionally people still die, so you’ll throw out the baby with the bath water and say older is better. Don’t worry, it’ll be over soon grandpa.
@bill Weirdo are you a safety engineer? I didn’t think so, your old junker might survive the wreck, but your head will be rolling down the highway, I’ve looked for these heads before and it ain’t a pretty sight. Drive classic all you want, I love old cars, but for gods sake, don’t drive kids around in those old Carbon monoxide puking tanks.
I'll never forget how the look on my Grandma's face made me bust out laughing after she asked what my wife's recharging brick was and I explained to her that wife's iPhone battery was glued in (she's seen me change the battery in my phone a bunch of times) and the look on her face clearly communicated what she was thinking, which was "well, who's the idiot who designed that?"
Old people seem to refuse to learn and keep up with technology. its amazing how stubborn they are.
Companies that buy bin loads of parts to make iphones, from different other phones just put em together. usign glue or whatever and sell em. the warrantly lasts one week or ::POOF:: company gone
The idea of an internal battery opened the doors for scammers...
The ones that put a non-removable glass cover on back of your phone and don't let you replace the battery at all.
@MaeMae Of course you can, but point is the convenience. I'm yet to find a glass panel that you can easily remove with your fingernail and attach back as easily.
You can remove glass panels
It is removable...very carefully. Radio waves and wireless charging pass through the glass...like plastic. Metal blocks radio waves and magnetism.
@Augustus Sol [Ina's 10th apostle of the twelve] no the 2014 galaxy s5 has water resistant and removable back panel
@Augustus Sol [Ina's 10th apostle of the twelve] the galaxy s5 was water resistant
Totally on board with Right to Repair!! So glad you talked about that. So many reasons to have strong right to repair laws - including climate change and reasonable costs for the consumer.
Totally agree, there are plenty of scammers out there and honesty is not something they’re interested in but in making money out of people. When I need a replacement battery, I’d always go to the product retailer and pay more but I’ll know that it’ll be genuine and will have a warranty.
I avoided phones with built in batteries as long as I could but now, I'll have to agressively pry my phone apart to get it back to how it was new. They did this to make phones thinner as well as getting half of people to buy a new phone rather than go thru this
@Julie Levesque how are you still using the phone with the 2G-3G shutdown?
you cant possibly be calling anyone with it. i dont think there is any 4G-5G flip phones.
@Julie Levesque I do so much through my phone that you can't do with yours so your humble brag ISN'T really that great imo.
I mean I record my work timesheet & sign it, pay all my bills, track my credit score, pay my IRS taxes, use GPS, set up appointments online, use the internet, watch movies, control the things in my house, buy things.... The list keeps going.
You?
You can change your battery, call, text, maybe take a shit pic, & take shitty notes.
Sure you'll save money over someone with my Galaxy S20+ in terms of money spent to purchase, but the things I do with my phone ALSO save me a FUCK LOAD of time & money & aggravation because I can access & do so much more than you can through my phone.
There are trade offs & value ISN'T just tracked through 1 aspect of looking at things.
@Pochou i saw fairphone its cool kinda expensive but the thing it has replaceable battery but its li-ion and liion wears out fast lipo is indestructible if not abused i never changed the battery on a smartphone with lipo
Check out Fairphone 4, they sell original parts for it, have instructions on how to change parts of the phone yourself, and the phones are made easy to disassemble
@Concert_Rat I know somebody that took an Ipad for a battery replacement. They told her it was not fixable and she needed to buy a newer one. Bullshit! They are overpriced to begin with
It's so hard to source original batteries for phones. Effectively it's planned obsolesence. We need law where manufacturers have to provide spares at reasonable price for 10 years or something like that. It's protecting consumers and the environment.
@muddy hotdog and if you actually give a shit about the environment instead of talking about it in youtube comments you'll do something about it and buy phones with replaceable batteries. And if enough people agree with you that it's a concern, and you can convince people you're right, they'll do the same.
Would be better for the environment too
@Tyler N true but frankly I'd just say avoid Apple in the first place if you give a shit. Apple can be good in some areas, particularly if you have apple care, but generally they'll still try to fuck you over. It's better to just buy from a company that respects you from the start.
Or just buy an iPhone? You can literally carry an iPhone to an Apple Store, pay $49-69 depending on the model, and they install a new OEM battery within 2 hours. Old one gets recycled. They will replace any iPhone battery as long as it’s a 5s or newer.
Hi Hugh, just wanted to thank you for this video, after watching it I managed to find an (almost) local manufacturer who puts their brand on the batteries. Immediately I felt more confidence in buying from them. (And the batteries are actually good - what a surprise) Unfortunately I'm still struggling to find a reputable seller for Android batteries, but there's a website that specialises in batteries so I'm hoping I'll finally get a good replacement for my poor dying Nokia 8.1. You're really helping my side hustle man, I will be forever grateful, I'm lovin' this hobby
+1 I'm interested too
Did you end up finding a legit supplier for android batteries? I would be interested as well for my phone.
Great video. I would be interested to see you test out in real world battery tests some of these extended capacity batteries. I did a diy replacement for my 6s with a flyinlink battery and it is significantly better than the original battery but does take longer to charge and gets hotter. I feel I was lucky though as there are so many fakes about
Love your vids. So interesting and honest. You cover topics that are diverse. With your help I hope to finally have the confidence to replace the old, almost dead, battery on my old Galaxy S8 for my 10 year old grandson andv6 year old granddaughter to play on.
I really could not afford to get it done at a shop.
I think I will enjoy having a go.
Thank you.
This was a very well done video and I enjoyed it. However I just want to point out that your BN930 battery looks like a second generation Note 7 Battery, not the first generation prone to fire. Most cell phones nowadays have a rectangular motherboard or L-shaped motherboard with a rectangular battery aligned right up against the edge of the board. The Note 7 had no faults in its board design other than its shape, which indirectly caused the battery issue. The Note 7 board is nearly an L-shape, but with a "cut corner". As a result of having two 45% angles in close proximity rather than a true 90 degree corner, the battery could not be shaped as a true rectangle and still fit in place without some wasted space. Two battery manufacturers were selected by Samsung to create matching pentagonal batteries, which looked like a standard rectangle with one cut corner. Neither manufacturer, nor Samsung, tested these flawed pentagonal battery designs thoroughly enough and the phone was rushed to market. Batteries from either source had the same defect which led to thermal runaway failures. After Samsung recalled millions of Note 7 phones, they solved the issue permanently by simply building a shorter rectangular battery. It was slightly lower capacity, but allowed them to safely refurbish every Note 7. The 100% safe, lower capacity phones were then sold as the Note Fan Edition. So if you see a rectangular N930 battery, that is technically a Note Fan Edition cell and not a Note 7 cell.
Amazon has got to be held liable once they're on notice of things like this.
@marwerno hence why we are all poor.
In ideal world: YES, but not in this world. Look how much Tax Apple or Amazon pays...At least they could pay the tax in the country they sell the products in and not skip on paying it. This is missing money in the pool, that, everybody who pays taxes, will need to top up.
they will not. money = power
Gold coloured batteries last 90% longer, that's just science.
@Abhiram Rv soyence.
Ooh a shiny
Bigly truth.
Trump Univ. School of Enginerring.
Lol.
Glad to see more eyes on this. I've been testing batteries for capacity using a custom setup for years to get refunds when I receive batteries like this.
Lifting up that 2017 sticker and seeing 2010 just sums it all up! Classic!!
2017 means the day the sticker was printed
This dude is a life savor, he should be the first recommended video Uptop when people search for battery replacement on KZclip
Valuable information, it’s no surprise the knock-off batteries are all over eBay. People need to wise up, you still don’t get something for nothing, even with a pretty label wrapped around it. Thank you for helping to expose this information.
This makes total sense thank you. I bought a supposedly brand new battery at a cell phone repair shop and the battery was even worse on run time.
Yes! Right to repair should be everywhere, I'm really hoping it starts spreading more and more
Exactly!!! We are paying dearly for these phones. Why can’t we just fix them? They’re so damn greedy they can’t allow that yet. Sad really
@Joey Dunn there's a big difference difference actually because apple is just like a console, both the hardware and software are private from Apple and you either choose their smaller one or the bigger one or whatever.
With android just like a computer you have many competition, you can choose between dozens of different screen styles\types, many different cameras, many different custom hardware, many different styles, models, colors and whatever since every year hundreds of android smartphone come out from brand A to Z...
And if you want mostly price-per-performance each year there's always something with latest best Snapdragon huge amounts of ram that you will likely never use for like 500 to 600eur, you never get best apple performance for that price.
@guily6669 unless y’all buying cheap 50 dollar android phones from wal mart then android is just as expensive so I don’t know where that argument comes from 😂 people be having the latest tablet android that cost well over a grand in their pocket saying “iPhone is so expensive I would never”
@FrogLobster nice work on the bet :P
@superfragilisticatexpialidoshmur it’s docious not doshmur lol! I won a $25 bet spelling it !
You can actually find genuine "new" batteries for older phones. "new" meaning never unpacked since manufacturing date years ago, and as result, completely discharged through self-discharge and dead as a doornail.
@bermudaguy03 Apple makes extra batteries for sale to Authorized Repair Centers and Authorized Service Providers. How these would make it into the hands of other people I'm not sure but I've personally swapped out an iPhone 7 battery for one with a manufacturer date of 2020
almost true. they dont make extras for sale so its out of a doa fone like from a carrier. most parts are stripped carrier returns that are icloud or google locked . otherwise somebody reverse engineers and makes the parts. takes about 6months to get a good working aftermarket part. in some cases the aftermarket part is better because its newer tech and not ripped out of a dead fone
It's people like you that helps us make more informed decisions. Thanks for the tips and hard work.
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this is such a good and helpful video! tech repair channels like this should have done these vids yrs ago tho when these products started hitting the market. could have saved a lot of people from getting scammed :(
Anyone else remember the days when the battery was the entire back of the phone? You could buy a second battery with a charger that just charged the battery (like 18v battery tools do now) and you just rotated the batteries, one on the phone and one on the charger. Then we got to the golden age of phones where the battery tech had exceeded the capability of the phones, so one charge lasted you a whole week. Those were the days. These days smartphones chew so much power some of them are lucky to last the day without needing a charge.
That Samsung battery you don’t want belongs to a Note7 N930F, so yeah, definitely avoid that one, thanks for the video Hugh, too many fall for these scams so it’s good to unearth their scrupulous practices :)
Yeah that's the Borderlands grenade
@SatoruNakata to be fair 6 years is half of his life lol
Phone is gonna upgrade you to the next life😂😂😂
phones were exploding due to the battery not having any ventillation to allow for natural expansion and depression, also the battery couldnt cool down.
*Unscrupulous.
This applies to portable consoles too. I once bought a 3rd party replacement battery for my 3DS. It advertised a higher capacity, but had much lower durability.
I went to a reputable service center in the city, I was quoted $400 (Approx USD295. 60) to replace, inclusive workmanship, after the staff checked on the system. I was stunned by the reply, I could just buy a midrange phone for that amount. I was really left speechless, maybe because my phone was a flagship model from 6 years ago. I asked twice to make sure that my ears wasn't blocked.
This applies to laptop batteries as well. I have an old Macbook Pro 2012. Bought a battery for it that had a great capacity after the original died. The replacement started dying after like two years though. The battery started to die after about 2 hours of use instead of the original 4 hours. So, I bought another replacement and that one just SUCKED. It held a charge for like 30 mins tops.
I swapped back to the original replacement and 3 years later, STILL get about 2 hours out of it.
And then there are laptop chargers.. ugh! Just ugh!
I bought a knock-off charger for the laptop after the original died and the friggen thing sparked every time I plugged it into my computer. It also got stupid hot and guess what? Didn't actually charge my computer. (And yes, I made sure it was the right charger for my computer)
I plugged it in like 3 times before sending it back... and I'm lucky it didn't ruin my computer.
I'm for the right to repair. Let the movement grow and gain traction. I would say governments have been a disappointment in this regard because this should be a no-brainer elementary right for people and good for the environment
This is a great video. I’ve seen batteries on ebay before that advertise 60% higher capacity or more but the battery is physically the same size as the original and I wondered if anyone actually falls for that.
As if Apple wouldnt be squeezing every possible mAh into the space available.
It is stunning how simple battery swap nowadays could qualify as "repair" and should have to do something with "Right to Repair" initiative.
Mercedes wants to charge an extra yearly subscription just to be able to accelerate past a certain point now. It’s just getting ridiculous.
99% of the time "sealed" batteries are life time
@Samoht Sirood ....why are you spaming bullshit comments which aren't even true?
This is a real problem. Kudos for posting this video. We need to make sure that our customers are getting quality parts. It's what they pay for.
My experience in replacing multiple phone and tablet batteries has been the opposite - most of the cheap replacement batteries I've bought online have been as good or better as the original manufacturer ones. I think part of the reason for this is that the manufacturers have a profit motive to place cheap, poor batteries in phones (lower manufacturing costs and encouraging replacement in about a year). To be fair, I think consumers have an unrealistic expectation of how long these batteries can last, especially at optimal performance. If you want to keep your phone or tablet going and your a heavy user, you really should replace the batteries every 1-2 years.
Exactly. Battery = battery
@Jim Reilly he won't tell you🤭
I would love to know where you purchase these "good" batteries ! I have purchased five batteries online for my older 4rth. Gen. Ipod color type. All failed after only three Months sitting in the Ipod. Even with bi weekly charges.
well done here thank you. Not many people would have access to a battery tester like yours [but I'd love one.] Whats your opinion of cheap USB test meters for judging the capacity of your "new" replacement battery? I just bought a replacement for my Samsung S10 5G which is supposed to be 4400mah but after 3 cycles I'm only getting 2200mah as recorded going in from 12% to 100%. have I been scammed?
Excellent video, thanks for sharing your tests, I blame the big shopping outlet on the internet it’s full of scammers. I was court out by a buying replacement for my Mac book pro 3 years ago.
I just want to say thank you for this video. I was about to buy a battery from a website and this video made me question its legitimacy. And a good thing I did cause (one the surface, it looked totally legit) it turned out the website itself had terrible reviews, terrible customer service, bad products and questionably scammy.
This video just confirms that we have to take a stance to the huge corporations, and claim our Right to repair. Not being able to buy a genuine replacement battery is (almost) criminal. It's one step up from the 3000 euro per liter price for printer ink.
Quick question: the iPhone 13 pro is looking amazing, but I’m torn on not wanting to give my money to Apple as they have locked every important component behind software to prevent replacement. They are on top of the performance and battery charts, but should I head over to Samsung or someone else like that who doesn’t put these kinds of barriers in place for repair? Thanks for the informative video.
iPhones aren't really that good. They are equal to the other Androids basically. There are better phones out there for way less money. Apple is always multiple generations behind in tech too. Worse screens and bigger notches for example. Now when there isn't any noticeable speed difference the only reason to get a iPhone is for video recordings. Pixels still take better photos along with lots of other phones. Modern iPhones are just overhyped from their past reputation when Androids actually were worse. I guess that stigma will linger for a few years more.
Get a Fairphone
One thing for sure is that you never skimp on buying ligit batteries. Looks like I'll be keeping going to Apple to fix my phones until I get wise like the Dr here. Great video Hugh, big thanks
The last bit was super useful - get known batteries. With my Galaxy S4 I purchased several back-up batteries. Never had a problem, and it was so great to have full use ability all day. That phone is still working - was my back-up after I switched to Apple. I check the battery condition regularly to make sure it is not puffed, and do a discharge cycle. Thing still lasts for 8 hours if radios are turned off!
This whole battery degrading thing is the reason why I insisted so much on buying a very high capacity phone like Redmi 9T or Galaxy A52. (Got the prior as a gift from my parents when I turned 18)
I knew 2 years down the battery capacity would degrade so bad, and finding genuine battery wouldnt be easy either. I still wanna keep my phone in the next 2-5 years..
Yup, as I attempted to find replacement batteries for a couple of old phones I had to use as secondary devices, I quickly realized that it's nearly impossible to find the OEM batteries. I have since then gave up on trying to replace batteries on phones or any other device that uses these lipo batteries.
Thank you Hugh for making this video. Thanks for informing us on knockoff batteries and how they can literally scam people.
This is the best consumer report on this subject, thank you for keeping everyone informed.
I bought a cheap off-brand battery for my Nintendo 3ds once. It claimed to have more than twice the capacity. However it was also ~2,5 times larger than the original and grew over the batteryslot. It came with an extended rear cover to fit the larger battery. I never made a direct comparision but I can confirm that the batterylife of my 3ds increased by alot so it defenitly worked! Also the increased size made it much more comfortable to hold. So that cheap battery was actually a good purchase.
some of them are legit, but many are not as shown in this video.
That's a really good video... very informative. As for the batteries needing to be replaced. Its the high Amp quick charge that's killing their capacity. I charge mine at a maximum of 500mA....takes longer but the charge lasts me about a week.. Also sealing the phone batteries inside the phone is just a way of selling you the next model when the internal battery becomes no longer functional.
Would be interesting if you could apply this batteries to a battery testing device to measure the actual capacity
Thank you for this video. Buying replacement batteries for my samsung galaxy S2 pretty much putt me of buying any replacements ever. I bought two and both were way crappier then my 5 year old S2 battery. It's a shame no company has stepped up to the plate to make proper replacement batteries.
Tip for Sony Ericsson batteries: they *always* have the full datecode on show. For example at 5:52 it says 17W07 on the fake and 10W05 on the real label, denoting 2017 week 7 and 2010 week 5 respectively. When Sony and Ericsson split, Sony kept the labeling scheme for their batteries mostly similar, including the yyWww datecode (at least to the point where they started gluing batteries in as well)
@Khoi Le Anh it has the 810
@Mi Aya Z4 Have The 801
It Crap
Off topic but Sony put better batteries on Xperia A2 than on Z4. I hate Sony I hope they go out of business
To be fair that is something that can be faked just as easily...
I’ve had good luck with loctus brand high capacity batteries on eBay I’ve bought several to replace on iPhone 6s,7,8 and SE and all last longer than the original. I was shocked it wasn’t a ripoff. Highly recommended.
Excellent video Hugh , thanks for your efforts exposing this .
Cheers .
Great video with brilliant info, thanks I was considering replacing my iPhone 8 Plus, but by the end of this year, Apple will no longer update my phone, so there’s no point in replacing the battery, but your video is really good info to know 👍
I find them darned good, batteries, as they are. I mean real ones. To be honest, I haven't personally had to replace any since they are glued in, which is a trend I was a fierce opponent of. I now realise there was one positive other aspect to that: it prevented too many loose batteries from laying around. And indeed they actually only started gluing them in after they had improved enough to justify it. With old devices (in case of Samsung, up to and including the S5 in the day) not only would batteries not last longer than two years, they also wouldn't hold much charge. And no replacement would even come close to that original's quality - or its lack thereof. Since I haven't had trouble, they don't age much any more and keep going remarkably long, even when you have like a four year old second hand smartphone. I think that is due to both the batteries having improved a lot and also battery management now effectively protecting your cells so well they indeed don't age a lot any more at all!
That's exactly what I do, buying batteries of "other" brands. They're often not as good as originals but they're close, and much better than the "originals" on ebay or amazon which are ALWAYS fake.
Great video review - never even thought about looking under the sticker, but I also got hit by a scam battery once. Purchased it for an old Samsung (with a removable battery), needless to say, the battery was useless - was worse than the many years old original battery (which itelf had lost all abilities to hold a decent charge).
Also I agree, we need to do something about Right To Repair, there are certain companies (one in particular) that tries to hinder 3rd party repair.
@Samoht Sirood I was gonna give you a thumbs up but then you went too far.
Apple: *nervous sweating*
@Samoht Sirood-- don't want to be tracked? That's what Faraday pouches are for.
@Samoht Sirood get off the dope dude don't get mad at someone for not saying something they either a don't know about or b didn't feel like saying
Great video. I too have experienced the same thing with replacement laptop and dyson batteries. There was a seller on ebay selling replacement "high capacity" batteries for dyson vacuum cleaners claiming 3500 mah capacity. Once I took it apart, I found it was just 1500 mah. Reported that to ebay and they did nothing about it.
In short, I believe most replacement batteries sold that come from china are bogus in some way.
If sellers such as Amazon and eBay acted on this information, then a lot of these battery scams would disappear.
I was going to cheat on your trivia question but I’m the process of typing in my search bar “what Samsung battery wouldn’t you want to get” I remembered the catastrophe Samsung had a few years back with there release of the note 7. Thanks for the info you provide. I have gotten into fixing devices for people and when I have a question or before I open a device for the first time I regularly check you out just so I have a heads up of any hurtles that may come up. Thanks
I love the one labeled "CRAZY". Your phone keeps dying and someone asks, "What's wrong with your phone?". You reply, "Oh, nothing ...it's just my CRAZY battery".
Unfortunately for my Dell tablet from 2012, the only option is knock offs.
I’ve bought one as a replacement using random choice and while it does work, charges and maintains as good a charge as the original, it is a tiny bit fatter and didn’t fit 100%.
It is most definitely a knock off as the tablet I bought is a bit obscure and I cannot see Dell still producing original batteries
When I got tired of my phone's (LG V20) worn battery, I was delighted to find that LG had a replacement listed on their site, and it worked a charm.
Have had this phone for 5 years now, and love it to bits still.
This is a much much needed video to spread awareness, not only these Chinese manufacturers lie about the capacity and wrap old batteries in new gold stickers they are also prone to swelling and combust due to old age, I had this happen with a Samsung Note 5 replacement (gold) battery. I am glad the right to repair movement is going to take off soon.
Imagine if we standardized cell phone batteries in some way. Similar to what happened with alkalines that eventually were adopted by most electronic devices. Instead of every phone manufacturer having the cells custom made to fit in their flagship phone just to be difficult to remove. Oh sure they will tell you it's because it's a waaay better cell that lasts longer than the competition, even though it isn't and doesn't. Imagine if there were only three or four cell phone battery types based on the size or capacity instead of the hundreds of different ones now.
As a lifetime career service tech in several industries, it has been my experience that any replacement part that states,
"professional quality" or "genuine part" ... ISN'T !
You might save some cash buying a knockoff part but will inevitably be disappointed.
As the saying goes ... The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
or as some say 'a pig in a poke ' ,
I was almost sure you were going to unwrap a Willy Wonker candy bar with the Golden Ticket! Seriously though, this is good information because, my iPhone S6 just recently came to an end. This is very helpful information. Thank you!
I recently bought a new smartphone, a budget phone but it has a back that pops off and a battery that can be replaced. Having that wasn't a dealmaker, and not having it wouldn't have been a dealbreaker, but it was a nice touch.
It has a headphone jack too.
Thank you for this very interesting and highly informative video! Subscribed.
I bought what purported to be a genuine Nokia N95 8GB battery and it was immediately obvious that it was garbage, actually using it only emphasised the fact!
As long as “anti-right to repair” is being pushed by manufacturers, people have little to no incentive to pay xx amount for a genuine battery, when they can pay x amount online, and get one…
But on the other hand, if/when manufacturers start selling genuine parts, nothing stops them from charging exorbitant amounts to discourage people from repairing their devices… just so they buy new devices.
@Jehty I agree, my 7 year old galaxy grand prime is still usable lmao and it is a very entry level phone according to everyone
I Officially labeled you as a propagandist now for not saying the most obvious reason why cell phone manufacturers make their batteries impossible to access! If you pull out the battery then they cannot know your location even when your battery is dead it is still pinging location to the cell phone towers! They don't want you being able to pull out your battery and keep them from pinging your location! It's all about full spectrum domination FSD! I'm officially unsubscribing and blocking you it was so easy to say this and you didn't say it you are a propagandist! That's why your video got recommended to me and that's why you have subscribers because you push BS propaganda!
@Jehty it also for newer modems or bands support
@Jehty when it start slow down from security updates that is part of life for bugs
@Matt Polton so again my question:
If you claim that (for some people) the CPU in a 4 year old phone is to slow - tell me one app where you can feel the slowness.
(bigger screens, higher refresh rate - sure that makes sense. You can feel the difference. But a 4 year old flagship CPU vs a modern flagship CPU - where do you feel the difference?)
Thank you for this information. I had no idea of the scammers reselling used batteries as new or replacement batteries.
You had me laughing when you were reading the crazy errors on the battery 😂
I don't have much choice. There isn't only 1 store in my country where I can buy battery replacements be it for phones, or Bluetooth speakers. As such, i have this horrible tendency to buy batteries in that store even if it's available in other stores. It's also weird that when I tried to buy from another store online, they happen to be labeled as coming from the same address. Probably a coincidence (Also I am sarcastic on this last sentence).
When removing the battery you should inject a small amount of IPA, heat the device a little on a 80c hot plate screen facing down for a couple minutes and lift the battery up with a suction cup. It will leave no marks, will not puncture or bend the battery and can be reused assuming it's not faulty. Using a metal tool like this will leave marks and if you are not careful it can puncture the battery or in some cases damage whats under the battery like flexes etc.
The fact that whichever company (likely based in China) making those unbranded gold batteries can just fake the wear levels like how similar scammers in the automotive industry would use custom devices to fake odometer readouts, really throws me off. I feel as though those kinds of companies make up most of what gives the Right to Repair movement a bad reputation, because they likely put fake labels on the batteries so they can make money without a care in the world.
(This part invalidated due to the 5th reply to this comment)
Faking the battery readouts could lead to the batteries exploding since the management chip wouldn't know that the battery cell already has tons of wear on it!
@Kaiying Chan I didn't get the analogy because to me methanol is the real thing. Add least for racers. I think it's hard on aluminum, but maybe they've worked that out by now. Ah the smell of nitro methane in the evening.
@ @Steve K “methanol” as opposed to “ethanol” i.e., the fake in contrast to the genuine. Just in case you have forgotten school chemistry methanol can cause blindness when substituted for true alcohol (which is ethyl alcohol or ethanol). I used to see such unfortunate ppl in clinical practice ; now I’m retired!
@Harrick V Harrick i highly doubt that short protection is exists in those knock offs.
@Jeffery Hogan I don't get the methanol part?
they are ALL made in china. you probably cant afford 1 that isnt lol diff is the amount of testing /safety testing the company does
I bought a "high capacity" battery for my iPhone 6s in China many years ago. It didn't make any outrageous claims, I think it was just 10% more than the original. It worked like a treat, and easily got me through a full day in Beijing's harsh winters, where the original battery gave up after a few minutes.
So, I guess it is all down to luck.
Right to repair. The problem there is the OEM will sell at an inflated price. Another comment, I fly RC planes and recently purchased 2 x "2200" mA batteries branded and new. A practical check shows that they are lucky to be pushing 1700mA.
I confirm, it happened to me with an ""OEM" samsung battery that was worst than the one i had already in my phone.
Also maybe you can do a video on the older "new" phones. Exactly the same system with batteries but they sell them for few hundred $
Great video, good to know. For my iPhone 5s, after 5 years, I replaced battery only once in reputable shop, and the new one still holds good already for 4 years. Wouldn't be touching these "business" batteries.
Just found you out. Your fight for right to repare is God's work. Keep it up.
I'll be honest, I probably fell for one of these, I replaced my phone battery a year or two ago, and while it was certainly better than the well used original, it wasn't even close to what it was to begin with. I had just assumed OS updates were causing increased use on the phone, and that is why it still wouldn't get through a full day anymore. And I don't have the testing equipment you do, so I can't be certain either. But this seems to most likely (especially since I got the exact same bag of part to open the phone with it).
@Samoht Sirood ehhh have you never heard of leaving ya phone at home ?
@Kalkschwarz I had bought the Samsung S6 back in July 2015. IIRC, by 2019 I could only go about 1/2 a day before needing to recharge the battery. I made sure to carry the charger all the time. I finally got the S21 Plus earlier this year. I figure 5 1/2 years was a good time to get a new phone. The only big complaint I had about it was that like other hardware, it was not possible to upgrade the phone's OS after a while. I know I'll have the same problem with the S21 in a few years.
@Neo Freshair2021 Thanks for your advice... to be honest, the iphone 7 lasting already five or six years is pretty amazing compared to other devices.
Another thing i hate is manufacturers using a strong adhesive to stick the battery to the frame. The pull tabs are built to last only for one or two years. It's really dangerous to remove the battery as it can sometimes puncture the battery or damage the phones frame or display due to the pressure. I spent a good 5 mins trying to carefully remove the battery from my phone.
I really miss the good old days when phones were easy to open and repair
One trick to use a hair-dryer and heat the screen (not the batttery itself) nice and warm and the adhesive should be much more pliable.
You should start doing videos on batteries bought on Amazon, bet most third party vendors on there are scammers. I was banned from reviewing or asking questions on there for just being honest about the products i was receiving, thinking the last straw was when i said i think vendors are selling irregulars and factory rejects...
I am sceptical even about batteries that are 100% legit on the outside. I read a few years ago that for some fakes of contemporary phones, even someone at Samsung couldn't tell if it's original (in which case "original" becomes a relative question)
I'm just wondering for those who are all about climate and pollution control how many years does it take for those batteries to bio-degrade? I'm also wondering about the potential for Lithium leaking into the ground water. Any thoughts?
An excellent and knowledgeable video Hugh, thanks.
A few years back I purchased a replacement "genuine" battery for my Nexus 5 and the capacity was significantly worse than the original worn out battery lol, I wish it was easy to get a quality battery for an affordable price.
Original battery worked for 5 years in my iPhone 5s, then each new one worked about a year. One worked for several months before making phone scorching hot when discharged. I’d say it is impossible to find a good one, so now I’m going to replace my devices as soon as battery degrades😾
Order from Taiwan or Hong Kong and your chances are much better to recive what you paid for, maybe Ameica will get off their DUFF and start manufaturing again, OH I forgot their are few if any left in our country that have the required knowledge to make anything of old country standards when we were very near the number one in the World. Thank GOD Japan is still around to supply us with first class quality and South Korea seems to make decent products as well.
This is even more sad considering they actually did sell original ones. At least the one I got was. Behaved just like new on day one and degraded just as quickly as the one the phone shipped with, going from one charge every two days to 30% at the end of the day in about 30 months.
Had the same issue with my Omen Gaming Laptop. Within Two years of purchase, the battery started to show signs of wear - this led to a nightmare of replaceable laptop batteries - mostly from AMAZON. The only help I got from HP was a link to their "approved third party" parts retailer...
Still have not replaced the battery!!!
If you are using an old phone (around 4 years) it is almost impossible to find a genuine battery on web. Btw I believe there are trustable side industy batteries. I am using Nohon brand batteries on my LG phone and I can certainly say that they are even better than original LG batteries. But yes this experience can be different on other brand phones.
Thanks! I have always been leery of replacement batteries. One of the well-known web sites is probably where I should have gone for my most recent replacement battery, but I didn't think of that, and it was a dud.
I can’t thank you enough for your enlightening video! Thanks 🙏
A better law would be this: At the time of purchase, the mfg must allow you to purchase a genuine replacement battery. The battery might have a dongle so that you can top off the battery once per year to keep it in good condition
The EU wants all phones to be charged with a USB-C cable. I'd rather see the return of the removable battery so you can get it replaced easier l, faster and cheaper.
@Bruce Wrigleys Gumchewz I feel the same way about computer batteries too.
@Dylan White "Using the exact same batteries that are used now as a hot swap style batteries will easily increase cell phone related fires by 300%."
Funny how that wasn't an issue when we had swappable batteries.
@Jeroen's Gambling " I feel a bit bad for Apple, because lightning on it's own is unique."
"Unique", as in slow, outdated, and overpriced?
Most of these replacements are below original manufacturer's specifications, and there is quite a stockpile of them from the factory which manufactured the original battery. As a result, many are re-labelled, and after an original battery loses capacity in a device (mostly a phone), some of these replacements have improved performance, but it is a better idea to ascertain availability of the original, for a guaranty òf its capacity... Of course the price is much higher, but worth getting the extra life span of the battery...
Subscribed to your channel as it carries a message and a warning that is highly relevant.
When I had a slider phone, the cheapest & most practical way for me to get a legit battery replacement was to buy the whole phone again. The legit LG battery prices were higher than the going out of inventory phone.