@syberphish I worked in at CNA (red building) and had a great view. Not from MY desk, but anywhere on the East side of the building. One summer the Blue Angels were practicing over Grant park, below the office I was visiting on the 40th floor. Pretty cool.
I swear I can feel it in people and animals. Like places of pain or itch etc. I have no idea if it is my body picking up their signals or what, but it isn’t just a coincidence feeling. It is consistent and I don’t know why.
@ll l I think you are mixing up electricity, beta-radiation and electromagnetic fields. Electricity, as in current, is what powers our muscles and you don’t want too much of it flowing through you because it can shock and burn you and override your muscle control (everything from uncontrolled gripping to stopping your heart). Beta-radiation is electrons flying around, which is used for example in old TVs. If they hit you they normally don’t penetrate your skin but they’re definitely not healthy. Electromagnetic fields are a huge spectrum. Modern electronics use a wavelength of centimeters of millimeters, which is way too large to do humans any harm. But at a wavelength of smaller than 5 Picometers, EM-waves become Gamma rays which are very dangerous to humans. But no modern electronic device other than medical equipment produces those.
Despite the extremely low strength of the earth's magnetic field, humans having the ability to sense it isn't as crazy as many would have you believe. Consider our other senses. The air pressure around us is about 100 thousand pascals yet our ears during normal conversation volume are picking up 0.01 pascals of air pressure changes. The quietest sound we can hear is a 20 micropascals of change in air pressure which equates to 0.0000002 of one percent change in relative atmospheric pressure. So basically our seneses are hella sensitive and the tiny magnetic field of the earth could certainly be sensed by even a far less specialized group of human cells. Given the clear survival advantages of such an ability it wouldn't be surprising at all if humans inherited magnetic detection.
The amount of light our eyes can detect in a dark space, while dark adjusted i don’t think it’d be far off that we could see predators with those reflective membranes, could be how some people survived at night.
While undergoing a brain MRI at Steinberg Diagnostic in Las Vegas I experienced unusual perceptions such as a sharp bank turn and others. Afterwards needing to check my sanity I was assured that, while not common, what I experienced was not uncommon either. This was certainly induced by the shifting of a powerful magnetic field slicing through each part of my brain. I felt as if I had been moving forward and then sharply banking right and continuing in a different direction entirely.
Might explain why I have a horrible sense of orientation and I get lost easily. Maybe my compass is busted. Also when getting MRI, I felt absolutely nothing.
Glad to know im not the only one/ im nit hallucinating. I can feel slight pressure sensations on my skin when in the MRI even when forcefully held in place by a cushion.
My father had what I always felt was a nearly infallible sense of direction, meaning that he could accurately identify north despite being indoors and following a convoluted path through subway tunnels, buildings, caves, etc. As one of five siblings with the same father, I am the only one who did not inherit this ability; I had a different mother and my four siblings all shared the same mother. Her sense of direction wasn’t as acute as our father’s; my own mother’s sense of direction was as nonexistent as my own. One of my brothers is fond of telling folks that I can’t even find my way out of a doctor’s office after having been seen at an appointment. I poke fun at myself saying that I grabbed the “music chips” but forgot to grab any “direction chips”, so that part remains a gaping hole/socket. All of us have some music abilities but I was the one who inherited perfect pitch from my paternal grandmother. Obviously there’s no connection between musical ability and the sense of direction, but I find it interesting to note the extremes. Not having been raised with my siblings, I don’t know how well any but one sibling can identify direction, and suffice it to say that that sibling seems as infallible as my father was. I have always wondered if it had something to do with them both being able to sense the magnetic fields…
You are not alone. That is the important thing. Not everybody has superhuman abilities--I know I sure don't. It's foolish to compare yourself to others for being "better" than you just because they can do things like sense magnetic fields or pitch. You are still a 100% valid human being. And kudos on being brave enough to confess that you don't have this ability--many people who watch a video like this but don't see themselves experiencing this would be too afraid to admit it to anyone, much less in a KZclip comment on that very video. You are enough. YOU ARE ENOUGH. 😊😇 💖💝♥💞💕💘
I find it interesting that yesterday I was watching videos on perfect pitch and now today I have watched a video on magnetic sensing and you have both in your family. My magnetic sensing is so bad that I can just about find my way out of a room with only one door and I am totally baffled as to how someone can identify a note as 'A'. Moreover I don't get images in my brain when reading books and I can't remember jokes or lyrics to songs. Am I even alive?
We may have lost the ability to sense magnetic fields from not navigating in ways that needed their use. Very few of us have ever needed that. If there are any Polynesian navigators that navigate the Pacific without instruments still alive it would be interesting to see how they did in the test.
So the most common question seems to be: how do we know the magnetic field isn't creating this result by interacting with the electrodes and wires in the cap? The truth is that *while the magnetic field is changing* there is induction in the cap and you can see this as an orange blob 10:12 - However after the field stops changing, there is no more induction and this is the time when the response is measured for decreases in alpha power.
@Luke Rieman yeah magnetic fields exert force on any moving charged particles. so, for instance, the sodium, potassium, and chloride ions (which move into and out of neurons to produce the travelling nerve signals that make up brainwaves) will feel a changing force from a changing magnetic field, and thus the direction of their movement will be affected, to some degree. so the fact that there are changes occurring in the brain waves doesn't seem particularly surprising to me. still, the questions of if we subconsciously make use of these effects for navigation, and if/how they manifest themselves consciously for a strong enough magnetic field, are still quite interesting.
they didn't mention that cows very often align themselves with the north-south axe, it's a known phenomena. Also ,why make this experiment only now ? It's weird that this has not been tested before ? **whistling X-files theme**
as an apprentice my first job attatchment was rewiring motors. One such motor, a 500kW monster, was for spinning massive turbines on mining operations which weve recently redone, which had a start up current spike of an excess of 150 amps, to 100 amps and voltages ranging from 7000V to 5000V at maximum speed. Testing occured over 2hour time intervals as per company standard and the whole time of testing i honest to god was sure i knew exactly where and in which direction that motor was relative to my position in the workshop, which was around 50X40 m across. It was as if my nerves were lightly firing around it. Off coarse nobody believed me and said its the inexperience, heck i didnt even believe myself until seeing this video. Im not saying i actually felt it, but now im really wondering at ifs...
I don't know how many times I've read a white paper and wished I could have been there just to watch the experiment and hear what the folks in lab coats have to say about it apart from what makes it into the paper. This is the next best thing. Please make more!
Dear Veritasium, This was a very interesting experiment! What I would like to see is the researchers carry out this test in some isolated villages, which have not come in contact with modern technology. The point is to explore if those people, who have not had their "internal magnetic compass" affected by the use of mobiles / headphones / fridges etc., are more sensitive to changes in the fields or not. This would be important to know, that if they have larger or smaller variations than regular people, then it can be said whether technology actually does affects our natural / forgotten magnetic perception. Of course I understand the logistic challenges of first finding these people, who have had no contact with any electromagnetic technology, bringing an MRI machine to site and creating these lab conditions in the field (Let alone convincing anyone to put on a funny cap with wires on them!). But still it would be interesting to know. Thanks for your amazing videos!
My guess is that humans stopped using our ability to detect magnetic waves as some kind of compass (if we ever did that in the first place) much earlier than the proliferation of electronics. That ability would have probably atrophied when we realized other, more visual ways of navigation, like the sun.
There really aren't a lot of isolated villages left in the world. I think there's the Sentinelese, but I don't think they would let themselves be subjects of some weird experiments. Of course, after such experiments, they wouldn't really be isolated anymore.
i actually have surprisingly strong awareness of cardinal directions at most times... not by sensing magnetic field, it's more like a gyroscope with known starting position and some background process in my brain that tracks the changes. so yes, it has the same shotcomings as actual gyro, shifts over time.
I swear to god I thought this was just me! Nobody believes me when o tell them I can generally tell what direction I’m facing at any given time. Indoors and outdoors
@MidnightSt - I remember reading about some group of people that had a culture of paying attention to their direction (small-town Norse people in the boonies, or something like that?) Maybe you're good at that as well. They simply seemed to have a background process of paying attention and remembering
I got this. I passed out drunk and high after i accidently ate an edible when atrempting to eat and sober up. my friend giving me ride woke me up and asked if i know where we were. I was full on dreaming. I said turning right onto xxxxxxx street. They said "did he just pull a liam Neeson?" Yes. Yes i did. They then had to carry me to the door when i got home.
Magnetoreception MUST exist in people; I for one, am EXTREMELY sensitive to Solar storms and dynamic geomagnetic indices. Sometimes, I get smacked with a sudden, sorta headache-like feeling, then I know to check online. Sure enough, like every time before, weather sites like NOAAs solar forecast, are posting sun flare-ups for THAT day (these phenomenon are unrelated to tropospheric conditions, they exclusively affect Earths magneto).
@Nasser Marzook i'm not sure about that, i'm talking about slow turns like the ones you take when walking around the city. also, i need my eyes open, i haven't really tested my orientation-keeping with eyes closed. it really is more like a background process in my brain, as what would you get if you spent years training imagining yourself move on a map, while moving in reality. (which kind of is what I did). but yeah, much more testing would be required on me to determine what plays how large a part in it.
It would have been interesting to test sherpas, sailors and suchlike to see if their ability to detect the fields is better than for normal people. In theory it should be. Nice video thankyou so much for bringing the latest knowledge!!
@LosParanoia Too bad so many are so poorly educated. Doesn't anyone wonder why these supposed super senses aren't the defaults? Seems sad to go blind just to hear better. Jeenyuses, all.
If the hypothesis of being surrounded my artificial electromagnetic waves weaken our internal compass, I wonder if testing on people that have little to no technology use and then people with over use with technology that have electromagnetic waves would show a difference. Honestly feel that over time our need for long distance travel with no outside help has slowly diminished so our internal compass has weakened but I bet there are people with genetics that have it stronger.
@Taxtro It's also worth noting that cartography is a relatively modern invention. For most of history, whilst there was a general concept of north, east, west, south, people generally wouldn't have had as clear a sense of the cartesian relationships between places as we do. Navigation would have been more about landmarks and prominent features.
@Taxtro Yes i agree, but what does this mean? How would you describe the ability to act like a compass without the word compass? And why would you write about such ability? Did they write about smelling and touching and sensing heat? So why would we expect volumes of writing about magnetoreception? Leaving off the fact that ancient writing doesn't exist, and the best we have is some cave art, and also most early cultural histories were oral and continue to be.... We should probably look at the cultures who navigate directions without compass. There are some that describe precise compass headings, like "North by NorthWest" to get to fishing spots. They navigate everywhere this way.They have compasses in their heads it seems. They have also been studied by Westerners, there are videos floating around one of the internets. Since evolution exists (and it does), and numerous biological systems use magnetoreception (and they do),-- we should not be surprised to find latent or dormant abilities in our own biology. Even night vision is on its way out in humans (thanks to light pollution). We may be in a transition with several abilities. Biology picks and chooses, it doesn't keep all the stuff you aren't using.
@One by Land, Two if by Sea Run if by Air The most ancient texts we have are about day-to-day stuff like shopping lists. And no one ever mentioned any sort of capability to sense compass directions before compasses were invented. They mentioned recognizing landmarks and the positions of celestial objects.
@Axel Aguirre They discussed some of those writings in the video. Plus, many ancient cultures didn't write much down. And what they did write was usually not day to day stories of washing laundry. If it was common, it probably wasn't a big enough deal to carve it in stone.
I’ve always had an excellent sense of direction, but have always attributed it to my brain subconsciously “keeping track” of direction changes like an inertial sensor would do. Or perhaps simply environmental clues like where the sun is. I wonder if sensing magnetic field changes is part of it?
Me too, excellent sense of direction, ever since I was a kid, but it's not as good when I'm in a city. I'd always put it down to having a subliminal awareness of shadows - now I think there are too many other things happening in cities.
@Gandalf the Inebriated so maybe by that analogy, its easier to find north if i havent turned the flashlight on yet. Cuz my eyes are adjusted to the darkness and i sort of have a general sense of where it would be. But if i turn my flashlight on and start looking at all the junk on the table, its distracting and casts misleading shadows?
@Eris It's easier to just illustrate consciousness like a flashlight in the dark storage room that is the subconscious. Concentration and focus demands it, so we can filter out the irrelevant to the task to better see and perceive what we feel is relevant. If we never have felt the the need or interest to know which way North is, or if you're in a magnetic field, it will forever remain in the dark subconscious, since our flashlight has never shone its light on it - so it's filtered away.
@TeamSprocket that makes sense. Humans pick up a variety of subconscious cues that tell us things we arent even aware we're being told. I imagine someone whos got a great sense of direction is getting vestibular cues as well as magnetic. Ive found i often know where north is before i know that i know where north is. Its like a gut feeling that you only get when youre feeling relaxed. It comes from an effortless will. if you try to think about before guessing you easily end up confusing yourself.
That's why they have to come up with this convoluted set up, the vestibular system is very good at informing the brain where it is, and people experienced or talented in a sense of direction confounds the results if it's due to non-magnetic reasons.
I’d be interested to see the differentials of this sense between urban people, rural peoples, aboriginal peoples, and trained navigators like Army Rangers and Navy SEALS. Is there a level of trainability?
I was an NMR spectroscopist for 30 years and worked beside and sometimes under magnets with field strengths that you wouldn't believe. I can't say that I ever had any feeling that I was entering a magnetic field, however. I must not be very sensitive. Cool study, BTW. :)
Thankful for the metaverse that makes this possible. Glad that you all had this experience! Notes: a cap of 64 Electrodes can monitor electrical activity in the brain. Magnetic fields are a part of our senses.
This is actually something new to me, and very interesting. I have always thought that as species we lost natural ability to interact with magnetic fields.
ive always had unexplainable navigation skills. im a big hiker and love trailblazing. I have never been lost. always knew what direction home was even in the dark in unfamiliar places. ive had multiple instances where I knew where I was and gps had wrong info. I could give a dozen storys of night time navigation alone. y oldest son said he thought I was like a bird.
After moving from the northern hemisphere to the southern hemisphere my sense of north and south, east and west,, was completely reversed. Even after living here for years this still affects me.
Could involve two things, nerve sensitivity and iron counts. I would imagine if you had a consistent nerve ting you may be able to feel the blood rotate around the nerve.
The ability to determine magnetic north is not in the brain itself. Some humans report feeling a sensation in the area above the bridge of the nose extending to the middle of the forehead between the brows. It's probably a localized concentration of *magnetite* in the bone as is the case with birds and some mammals. We can actually feel the physical effect of changes in geomagnetic orientation.
interesting... i work with nmr-spectrometres with very strong magnets from time to time and i always wondered about a special feel i had in the machine room. i kept telling myself it would be my imagination but after watching this, im sure that i will measure the power of the magnetic fields in the room somewhen ;) need to find out if its imagination or reality.
seems there a 2 mechanisms. In addition to iron particles, there seem to be light sensitive particles in the eyes which can sense magnetic fields. Specifically, these respond to UVA wavelengths of 350nn to 500nn, and are inhibited by green wavelengths of 500nm and higher. (Similar to newts and fies). Red light interferes with these both. It seems that humans can orient themselves to magnetic fields much the same way birds do: by using light which effects electrons. These electrons then are effected by magnetic fields. It's a quantum mechanical process. Interestingly, this effect has only been demonstrated in starvation conditions. This indicates a metabolic component is involved, probably free radicals. (O2-) is one guess. Also, this specific effect has been found in males, but not demonstrated in females at this point. If you would like a more thorough description, the study published in NATURE is a good place to look. (Kwon-Seok Chae, Soo-Chan Kim, Yongkuk Kim)
Thanks for name-checking Robin Baker's paper - I remember reading it in the 1980s. I've always suspected that I still have a weak magnetic sense, because on some of the many occasions when I've got lost, I generally have a rough idea of where 'home' is, and often I'm reasonably accurate. On a few occasions I've tried to think consciously about it ... and found it doesn't work that way! A great video anyway.
"On some occasions". Ie it works when it works. It stands to reason that you generally know where home is if you can observe celestial bodies or have landmarks or roughly remember your movements.
question - has anyone done any experiments to see how weather changes may affect peoples head in terms of headaches and migraines? Personally for me, most times when thunder is in the air I tend to get headaches. I'd love to see some experiments into this study
Connie says that magnetic fields don`t make you smarter but since I watched this video I already feel a lot more intelligent :-) Thanks a lot for for this!
During the past year I've been working on a navigation control system for nano satellite and I've been using the B-dot algorithm. I had a system that can mimic the earth magnetic field during orbit using Helmholtz cage. I felt nothing, but the earth magnetic field is weak (up to 65*10^-6 T)
If people have different sensitivity to magnetic fields, could this perhaps be one of the reasons some people have great sense of direction while others do not?
Recently found out bears also have this ability. They can find home even when taken hundreds of miles away. Walks straight there like it knew where it was.
As a kid before I had a phone I used this subconciasly to navigate in the wilderness, was just normal for me, when grew up and got a phone i forgot about this thing, I'll start practicing this again now, thank you !
I know I'm pretty late to the party but I can say anecdotally that after turning a certain direction without turning back, I feel a strong compulsion to rotate back the same amount that I turned in the first place and it feels pretty precise
I spent two weeks this summer in the Trinity Alps of Northern California, and the sun kept coming up in the wrong place. the Trinities are misaligned to the rest of the cascades, and yes, I most certainly noticed the effect. look into them, they are a geological anomaly. not only are they sideways, but upside down as well.
When I was a toddler, my parents figured out that I could "feel" magnetic north. I understand that I said "We're going the wrong way" enough that they realized I had a better sense of direction than they did. It became a parlour trick (or front yard trick) to put a bag over my head and spin me around and make me point toward north. I was pretty unerring. My magneto-sense seems to have vanished (pretty much) by about 2nd grade or so.
@Game Plays 1230 That's interesting. And did it stay with you for a period of time? Do you still have it? Were you in familiar surroundings you might have recognized when you woke up? And how old were you?
@Taxtro No, I think there was something to it. I have heard of a small number of kids that age that have the same ability, and I remember feeling it in my head. Robin's sense of orientation and ability to navigate over long distances has been proven to be a function of quantum entanglement, and I bet this is the case for every species that can navigate that way.
This reminds me of certain cultures and especially ancient cultures that used or still use a system of right/left south/north very unlike our own. They refer to 'before me' as East, etc. Its a fascinating study of how we relate to time now versus then, as well as spatial frames of reference. I wouldn't be the least surprised if some members of those existing cultures were very, very sensitive to the fields. You should find a few for test subjects.
Hunters in the field have an intrinsic ability for this. I spent years in the woods as a youth and have always been able to find the way home. I would not be so positive about what our brains can or cannot do. Good study grasshopper
Sorry for late reply but I feel like, and I'm not college educated on any of this, but I feel as if it's a sort of muscle memory because you take that route every day home from school and it's imprinted in your subconscious mind so you recognized when you are on that last turn. I don't think it's a magnetic phenomenon I think from subconsciously observing it many times your brain knows exactly how many turns and gravity shifts there are until you get home so when sleeping or lightly sleeping your subconscious, maybe unconscious mind (not sure) is keeping track and tells you when to awake signaling the arrival at home
That's more of a basic sensory cue. *Everyone* that has a cat or a dog knows, you can talk a lot, and even loud, and they keep sleeping sometimes even if you're being loud in the kitchen or something. Yet when you make "the" voice to tell them it's food or something, they're up on their feet in less than a second. 😂 You brain filters stimuli when you sleep, so you can even get used to airplanes flying above your house and not wake up. But should you hear the cat puke, you're up on your feet in less than a second too, lol!
Thanks for showing this. This is hard to prove, but in the early 2000s with the old bar and flip cellphones I used to be able to sense when the phone was going to ring a half a second before it rang. It was a very strong and confident sensation. I became convinced it had to do with the pre-ring handshake the cellphone tower and the cellphone make. Back then stereos weren’t as well EM shielded and you could hear a ticking sound sometimes before the cellphone rang. But I would know even before that or This would also happen if there wasn’t an active speaker around. However, I stopped getting the sensation after newer phones in the late 2000s started to come out. So, I’m not sure what changed but perhaps it was some kind of subconscious sound related phenomenon after all with the stereos or some EM sensation I perceived, or I just got old haha. Anyways, I don’t have a way to prove this so purely anecdotal. Thanks for listening.
Nice, I like your part about the stereos and the shielding. I had some cheap speakers that I would click or tick when an sms was coming (about 10 years ago). I fully believe in your story.
kind of "at the feeling levels", but over the years I noticed being able to sense the presence of complex, electricity powered, machinery. it's not annoying and I feel much better when surrounded by tech, as well as when I'm not. those are just different conditions for relaxation and study. somehow being near the electronics allows me to learn things faster, even when they aren't used. I don't consider myself special over it but it was one of the things I thought everyone have.
Seeing this reminded me of something I heard in the past couple years (maybe on one of your videos) about people such as Hawaiians and other island cultures and how they have a better sense of direction than most people who come from big continents.
I vividly remember being able to tell the cardinal directions as a kid (like 7-10 years ago) before I got my first smartphone I guess it dissolved after that not because of like "toxic radiation" or stuff but more that I watched a lot of movies, videos etc which is basically experiencing direction changes without any actual changes
I believe it is at least in part a learned ability. I grew up (age 3 to 13) in Florida, next to a large woods that was flat and void of differential features in all direction. We were ALWAYS headed out to the woods. When the sun was directly overhead or had set, it was impossible to know which way you were going by looking around. And yet, I never got lost. I always had this "bump of direction." In AF survival school, during our overnight hike, around 2 AM, when I had the lead, the instructor called a halt and asked me where north was. I pointed, nailed it, before he said, "Now how do you know that? You haven't looked at your compass ONCE in the last 10 minutes! Use your compass!!!" Okay... While in the military, I drove in 9 countries and multiple deserts which were greatly lacking in visual and other cues. I never once got lost. Occasionally and temporarily disoriented, yes, but never lost. Finally, as an avid hiker, I routinely blasted off into the mountains here in Colorado without ever getting disoriented. SO! Results??? Apparently, it is indeed a scientific thing. My experience confirms that SOMETHING is behind my bump of direction. Keep up the great research!
>When the sun was directly overhead or had set, it was impossible to know which way you were going by looking around The sun is rarely directly overhead, there is stars in the night (polaris is pretty much directly over north), vegetation isn't symmetric in all directions, etc.
@Dennis Koppo Does he drive his truck offroad through the Amazonas rain forest or sth? I always know what direction I'm travelling on the road as well, that hardly requires a compass.
Ok yes, ever since I was a kid I was able to tell you which direction I was facing. Something else, and this will likely demonstrate how very unscientific my mind is, what about people who have electromagnetic hypersensitivity, who become physically ill when exposed? Is that different?
A friend of mine is a truck driver and claims to have hypersensitivity to the earth's magnetic field. He claims he always knows in what direction he is traveling. He has sensed this "talent" for a long time and even has a compass rose tattoo on his arm.
A Qi Gong master in Hong Kong gave me postures to feel the north magnetic field, with practice I could feel a tingling sensation in my hands with my arms stretched horizontally; by moving my whole body clockwise, I could sense the tingling stronger when approaching north. But as said by Prof Shimojo, electro-magnetic waves are so present and getting stronger everyday that we probably lost the ability to feel the earth magnetosphere. It would interesting to monitor other brain waves, other than the Alpha, in a similar experiment...
I've always been able to figure out North somehow. I've spent a lot of time hiking and in nature, and I wonder if my sense for north has to do with a stronger reaction to magnetic fields.
I want to see this studied in people who grew in different cities and places. I grew up on Long Island where most important main roads (highways) go either east-west or north-south. I consider myself to have a relatively good sense for cardinal directions because I have learned to navigate oriented to this grid-like system, and I have friends who grew up in Manhattan who also seem to have an extremely good grasp of this for similar reasons. If someone grew up in an old town or a rural place without an organized grid system, would that affect the development of this sense? Could grid-dwellers hone this through practice?
I used to work as a crane operator and I used a magnetic lifting crane and I know for a fact that there were times I could sense the magnet. I've walked up to the magnet and knew the last shift left it on just by the feel
Imagine what it would be like, while having the ability to detect the electromagnetic fields moving around the space near you. What may be possible is to literally pick up EMF auras off people.
Its almost a signal in my brain, when people talk in the most uncomfortable positions voluntarily then they might be talking the truth. I might be wrong but that's what I think...I found that interesting too...
I really, super loved this part as well. It felt like a very comfortable. As far as the cardinal reference with the the aboriginals of Australia in their language. They have expectation of having body orientation constantly(it’s a social expectation)- so it would be interesting to see if it amplifies this ability or they are tapping into it.
Could this be related to what side of the equator the individuals under test are from/usually live? If living in one area, closer or further from the poles, would that result in a more consistent variation between CW and CCW response?
I definitely feel like I’ve walked into a cloud of static electricity, as soon as I stepped outside I felt this weird energy and my hair stood up. Never happened since though
I'd like to see a five-year review of this. I understand I'm giving two years notice, however I also understand that he probably has a bunch of video ideas already lined up, and that making videos takes time.
Wouldn’t another variable to consider is the strength of the constant magnetic field (the Earth’s field in this experiment) and the magnitude of the controlled field? I wonder if the results would be more or less accurate depending on the location of the experiment. Love the videos!
Okay. This is so amazing. My mom & husband (my husband especially) know their directions inherently. I’ve always thought it was so weird & unexplainable to me. We just had a conversation the other day about how amazing of a phenomenon it was & I just can’t believe it. We actually did an experiment where I had my husband close his eyes in a pitch dark bathroom, spin around a few times & then tell me what direction was which & he was correct. Anytime we go out of town, we can be in a TOTALLY foreign place in the middle of nowhere downtown & he’ll know exactly what direction is which. Anyway... you get the point. It’s just seriously unbelievable to me. I can’t even comprehend how incredible it is.
@Devin _"The only place I've ever been lost was Las Vegas casino"_ And that's by design. Watched a documentary on Vegas where it was commented the color schemes, patterns, lighting, and casino floor layout are all very carefully designed with the input of neurologists, behavioral specialists, etc. to keep visitors essentially "locked in" by walking around the casino in circles.
Men are more sensitive, I remember watching a KZclip video were they claimed this is one of those old inherented thing from the past but shortly put. Because men would travel for hunts, they mutated this ability. The only place I've ever been lost was Las Vegas casino, not even a map can help you in sin city
The experiments of Dr. Robin Baker of Manchester University suggest that humans are also sensitive to changes in Earth's magnetic field. Dr. Robin Baker first placed people inside a darkened room and asked them to locate North. Most of the time people got it right. But when Baker then fitted these same subjects with a little magnetic skullcap, they lost their ability to find North. This strongly suggests the presence of an internal compass or biological clock. Scientists have discovered Magnetic particles in Cerebellum.
I mean no disrespect with the following comment; merely counterpoint and corroboration. Those of us who *_do_* have the ability to inherently know direction can’t even comprehend what it would be like to *_not_* have the ability. It is as natural and as easy for us as breathing, seeing, or hearing. I've had it since...well...forever; even as a young child I had an unerring sense of direction that predated being educated on cardinal directions, map reading, and the use of a compass. I can't get lost or turned around; believe me, people have tried. I just assumed everyone had this ability. It's only as I grew into adulthood that I came to realize that not everyone has it. None of this is to be construed as claiming the existence of a sixth sensitivity to magnetic fields. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. It could be multi-sensorial relying on sight, sound, kinesthesia, orientation awareness, and perhaps even a magneto sensitivity; more research is required. Perhaps the mechanism is different for different people. In my case I largely attribute it to having near-photographic recall of the spaces through which I pass. Without conscious effort, I'm constantly aware of and updating a three-dimensional map of my surroundings in my head. Combined with an understanding of cardinal direction and environmental cues, I always know where I've come from and how to plot a route back to that starting point; even after hiking miles away without bothering to use a map or compass. Outside of needing to pinpoint a specific location within a few meters accuracy in a wilderness I've never visited before, I have no need of them. Regardless of the mechanics of _how_ the sense works, it _does_ work. I would consider the loss of that sense as devastating as losing my hearing; that's how intrinsic and essential I consider it.
I find it interesting, when I was growing up, my dad would randomly ask "which way is north?" Now, he did after hours of hiking. Or driving around for hours at night even in completely unfamiliar places. I'm not saying I've got super powers or anything but my sense of direction is pretty dang good
I can definitely see this being a lost skill of sorts as we began building cities and roads to get around, we would have relied on it less and used the emerging kinds of informational wayfinding. I’d be interested to see if people who are very active in nature, like hikers and mountain bikers may have a more refined sense of this, or people like race drivers or fighter pilots where it may just feel like a refined sense like balance. You don’t really think about it being there, it just works.
I have found at times walking backwards while working An ability to detect that I was about to back into things I have also found myself a few times suddenly turn around And look up seeing comets There is people that sense they're being stared at And thoughts of someone maybe telepathy
Well I have a question for you. Do you get lost often or no you always remember your way accurately (or at least most of the times)? Not just a question for you but for all those who took that magnetic test. Because if that helps pigeons to find their way home, then the people who fall under the category of someone being highly responsive to the magnetic field changes should be those who aren’t the ones who get lost the most. Like I get lost quite often and was wondering what kind of brain response I might give after that test. Well not just asking the question would make it clear but other factors like remembering landmarks to find the way back or memorising lefts and rights must be properly taken into account and manipulated while testing to see if magnetic field perception actually helps or not. (If I made any sense, thank God!!)
I'd be interested to know some examples of languages that use only cardinal directions instead of front/back/left/right. Are the cultures that use these cardinal direction languages concentrated in a particular geographic area or spread all over the world?
I'd love to see this tested in a comparison between people with sensory sensitivity and people without. I'm not yet formally trained in neuroscience, but I'd imagine some distances may be detected between someone with tinnitus+/visual snow and someone without if it is measuring neural acitivty and response to stimuli. What if, just as the sensitive person's brain cannot as easily filter visual and auditory stimuli, it may also be more sensitive to changes in the magnetic field.
I’ve always had a brilliant sense of direction unless I’m in a building in which case it goes I always assumed it’s because of my natural response to where the Sun is
Veritassium do you think they would benefit from subjects with disturbed vestibular system like myself, with a condition called migraine vertigo. Which impacts my vestibular ability to sense position, therefore could my sense of magnetic fields be amplified? I was wondering if these tests have been done on people like me, I would love to take part in testing as a subject to find out.
I know that I can tell that a magnetic field is working in my brain and body. Especially when I get sick and when we have a full moon my bp gets somewhat higher than normal and when I’m hurting the pain is worse during night’s and during the full moon. I’m sick as we speak and come around dark thirty I feel twice as bad. I’ve always told people that I could feel the magnetic pull on my body but most of the younger generation just laugh’s but the older generation agrees with me. I can tell by watching my dogs that they are also affected by this also. Not as much as I can tell about myself but I always knew it was the pull of the magnetic field messing with me.
I don’t think we can communicate telepathically like this but I do believe this is where the 6th sense comes from. It’s a subconscious yes/no about other ppl.
You guys should test Chileans. Since majority of cities are in valleys, we grow up using cardinal directions because mountains are always on the east and most cities are built using street grids.
I'd be interested in seeing this in other cultures that are pre-modern and are cardinal referencing. It may be that people living in modern society never train their brains to utilize this sense, and so are less sensitive to it, whereas those in cultures that need it for survival may have this sense better atuned to detect magnetism and directionality. There was also a research group that tried to use a haptic belt that tracked direction on humans and see if they could train them to be attuned to directions. I wonder what happens to this sense in those who were subjects of this research.
would be very interesting to see two already tested people, where one was very sensitiv and the otherone being only slightly sensitiv, being in there together and their probably changed result
So... Did the brain react to the magnetic field, or does it just affect the sensors? Was there a calibration and test of the sensors in the field without a brain between them?
@Paskaloth The earth's field is not "strong" it is about half a gauss. Something 500 times bigger about 300 gauss, can easily produce forces on a nail held in the hand that you could feel. Just giving you a scale factor.
Christie Malry its not about homing abilities, its about the brain reacting to magnetic stimulus. you are drawing a conclusion that has not been made in the paper nor by the authors. whats been discovered is that the brain actually reacts to magnetic stimulus, not that we can feel it, and also no derived abilities. to test this conclusion would require further study or rather is a theory for the following discussion but is NOT the actual result.
Christie Malry then why bother with some scienties just saying they found some more hint that the brain react in some sort to magnetic fields? It's not even like they try to say that we have a seventh sense or something...
Christie Malry Thats just not how a halleffect sensor etc. work. Except this, If the Field stopps changing in the room, it can't affect the data even if the coils still get their AC induced in the sensors. Everything that is inducing something in the sensor, will cancel it self out by the way they analyse the data and by the way the equiptment works. This brainsensors are not build by some hobbyelectrician xD And the people critcising their faraday cage should inform themself (which even kids can today) how it works. Doesnt matter in this case if they spend a few bucks or thousands so i looks better. And scientist often struggle for money, sothey spend their money on function and not optics... And since they say by themselfe, they just want to see if the brain reacts, and without a doubt, it does in some sort. But as they say, you wont recognize it/will never affect you. But we can't say if there is one person out of millions, propably able to sense changing field without even knowing it. They research in a field that was just opened. And if you get into brain studys you quickly learn that our brain filters most of the informations it gets out of our conciousnes, what we hear, see and feel is just a fragment of the informationflood our brain gets.
Haven't watched the vid, but always "knew" where North was when I was a kid. Went Caving (did the caving tour @ jewel cave) and after an hour the ranger asked us to point north. I did. I did it over and over and over again no matter how many twists and turns we made, he said he'd never seen anything like it. I lost that ability at some point.
I've always had trouble with right vs left. Like, I have to wiggle my fingers and feel which hand my wedding ring is on to identify which is which if I need to know (used to use positioning my hands as though holding a pen and noting which "felt wrong"). But I usually knew which cardinal direction I was facing, and used that for navigation. People learned not to ask me for directions, bc I'd never say "turn right", but rather "turn east" or "go southwest on ". Then a few years ago I tripped and got a mild concussion. I haven't been able to identify direction since then. And didn't magically replace it with swift left/right differentiation. Cannot navigate without visual GPS now, which I had never bothered with before bc my compass system rarely failed. Visual, and map-based, because the audio relies on left/right, as do most written directions from people.
It's definitely real, magnetic pulsing devices are even added to some touchpads on laptops to provide the sense of 'clicking' without actually having a mechanical tactile switch under the pad.
After being a tour guide for 7 years at the Oregon Vortex I will guarantee that we are indeed sensitive to electromagnetic fields. The Vortex has a shifting magnetic field that can cause compasses to spin or bob, or work perfectly fine, you just don't know which it will be. The Flux in energy is felt differently day to day but also changes the degree of the visual optical illusions witnessed. Sometimes the height changes appear minimal while other times they appear extreme. As with most everything not everybody is affected equally. Each individual is just that individual in their sensitivities and reactions.
I would like to see this study over different age groups. We know the mind changes with age and with age we lose certain abilities. Is this something that we can hone in on as child and then forget about as an adult due to basic technology like a compass and maps. Very Interesting. Thanks for another great video.
big buildings usually give me large magnetic vibes when i stand directly in front of them and look up, or that vertigo feeling also feels magnetic tensions when you on the edge of tall places.
I believe, human can really feel the magnetic field. And tbh, I think I can feel it when others can't. I usually talk to my friends, did they felt anything when they use the lift, and they said no. What I felt was something strong pressure my head and my body like when you float in the sea. something like that. To be honest, for the first time, I thought that's because my claustrophobia. But when I use the underground train (monorail train), I felt the pressure even great, much bigger than when I am Inside a lift. And I just realized that the two of them (lift and monorail station) have the same thing in common. They have like big 'magnet' to operate these things. And that's what I felt. I can even feel the flow of the electricity (big power like in mall) that move below my foot. tbh, that's the first one I did notice, feel weird, because I can feel the exact place where the cable flow, from one place to other place. And in the place where there is no electricity, I can tell. Weird right? I believe it happened after I'm in a great stress. Maybe that triggers it.
I had an MRI 15 minutes ago. 20 minutes in with my eyes closed, I was watching pjosphenes that looked like drops falling in a pool in the darkness, and I thought of this video. No idea if the MRI had anything to do with it, but it was interesting to think about!
Being raised by a boat captain my instructions as to where I was or where I was going, was 100 % related to the cardinal directions. Also, I'm unable to wear watches, even the good one's. For some reason they stop within 60 day's of wearing one. I'd be interested in this experiment 👌
Have they tested people with sever EMF sensitivity? I have heard there are people who get sick from EMF exposure and have to Protect at least part of their homes with Faraday cages for relief of their symptoms. Love the channel!
Everyone always told me I was crazy for saying I was sensitive to magnets. I feel a definitive change when touching a magnet and prolonged touching can cause nausea. Started when I was a kid and played with some of the magnets my grandma used to hold her sewing needles
Your brain has an electromagnetic wave running through it, so I don't know why you wouldn't be able to feel a magnet's effects, since it's well know magnets can bend and change those types of fields.
I feel a disturbance in the force like a billion dads just cried out: "we've been telling people about the compass in our heads for years!"
American dads - German ones use GPS 😐
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Use the Force, dad
And then they keep insisting on going the wrong way because “no I don’t need a map” 😝
@syberphish I worked in at CNA (red building) and had a great view. Not from MY desk, but anywhere on the East side of the building.
One summer the Blue Angels were practicing over Grant park, below the office I was visiting on the 40th floor. Pretty cool.
It’s 3 years later, I’d really like a follow up to this to see if the research has produced anything significant.
@Kibby wait hold up...
What you are experiencing...
does it give you a Shrill "teee" noise in your ears???mostly one ear???
@Kibby placebo could be the explanation. You expect something to happen so you sense some kind of buzz
I swear I can feel it in people and animals. Like places of pain or itch etc. I have no idea if it is my body picking up their signals or what, but it isn’t just a coincidence feeling. It is consistent and I don’t know why.
Check video: Environmental Sensitivity/ Paranormal Research
@ll l I think you are mixing up electricity, beta-radiation and electromagnetic fields.
Electricity, as in current, is what powers our muscles and you don’t want too much of it flowing through you because it can shock and burn you and override your muscle control (everything from uncontrolled gripping to stopping your heart).
Beta-radiation is electrons flying around, which is used for example in old TVs. If they hit you they normally don’t penetrate your skin but they’re definitely not healthy.
Electromagnetic fields are a huge spectrum. Modern electronics use a wavelength of centimeters of millimeters, which is way too large to do humans any harm. But at a wavelength of smaller than 5 Picometers, EM-waves become Gamma rays which are very dangerous to humans. But no modern electronic device other than medical equipment produces those.
Despite the extremely low strength of the earth's magnetic field, humans having the ability to sense it isn't as crazy as many would have you believe. Consider our other senses. The air pressure around us is about 100 thousand pascals yet our ears during normal conversation volume are picking up 0.01 pascals of air pressure changes. The quietest sound we can hear is a 20 micropascals of change in air pressure which equates to 0.0000002 of one percent change in relative atmospheric pressure. So basically our seneses are hella sensitive and the tiny magnetic field of the earth could certainly be sensed by even a far less specialized group of human cells. Given the clear survival advantages of such an ability it wouldn't be surprising at all if humans inherited magnetic detection.
Its not crazy at all. This honestly seems like common sense knowledge to me…
@Eric Parrish I mean I was outside working and the air and wind changed I headed in because Well damn near half an hour later it started raining.
The amount of light our eyes can detect in a dark space, while dark adjusted i don’t think it’d be far off that we could see predators with those reflective membranes, could be how some people survived at night.
While undergoing a brain MRI at Steinberg Diagnostic in Las Vegas I experienced unusual perceptions such as a sharp bank turn and others. Afterwards needing to check my sanity I was assured that, while not common, what I experienced was not uncommon either.
This was certainly induced by the shifting of a powerful magnetic field slicing through each part of my brain. I felt as if I had been moving forward and then sharply banking right and continuing in a different direction entirely.
I experiecned an unusual hard perception too, looking at your profile pic amber.
I had an MRI, but I never noticed any such feelings. Just a bunch of really loud noises and banging sounds
Might explain why I have a horrible sense of orientation and I get lost easily. Maybe my compass is busted. Also when getting MRI, I felt absolutely nothing.
Glad to know im not the only one/ im nit hallucinating. I can feel slight pressure sensations on my skin when in the MRI even when forcefully held in place by a cushion.
I just got unpleasantly nauseous, and that was before the contrast.
My father had what I always felt was a nearly infallible sense of direction, meaning that he could accurately identify north despite being indoors and following a convoluted path through subway tunnels, buildings, caves, etc. As one of five siblings with the same father, I am the only one who did not inherit this ability; I had a different mother and my four siblings all shared the same mother. Her sense of direction wasn’t as acute as our father’s; my own mother’s sense of direction was as nonexistent as my own. One of my brothers is fond of telling folks that I can’t even find my way out of a doctor’s office after having been seen at an appointment. I poke fun at myself saying that I grabbed the “music chips” but forgot to grab any “direction chips”, so that part remains a gaping hole/socket. All of us have some music abilities but I was the one who inherited perfect pitch from my paternal grandmother. Obviously there’s no connection between musical ability and the sense of direction, but I find it interesting to note the extremes. Not having been raised with my siblings, I don’t know how well any but one sibling can identify direction, and suffice it to say that that sibling seems as infallible as my father was. I have always wondered if it had something to do with them both being able to sense the magnetic fields…
You are not alone. That is the important thing. Not everybody has superhuman abilities--I know I sure don't. It's foolish to compare yourself to others for being "better" than you just because they can do things like sense magnetic fields or pitch. You are still a 100% valid human being. And kudos on being brave enough to confess that you don't have this ability--many people who watch a video like this but don't see themselves experiencing this would be too afraid to admit it to anyone, much less in a KZclip comment on that very video.
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@Richard Swaby you made this coherent comment therefore I see you as very alive
I find it interesting that yesterday I was watching videos on perfect pitch and now today I have watched a video on magnetic sensing and you have both in your family. My magnetic sensing is so bad that I can just about find my way out of a room with only one door and I am totally baffled as to how someone can identify a note as 'A'. Moreover I don't get images in my brain when reading books and I can't remember jokes or lyrics to songs. Am I even alive?
also have perfect pitch but poor sense of directions. would love to put people like us in this magnetic sense of direction experiment!
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We may have lost the ability to sense magnetic fields from not navigating in ways that needed their use. Very few of us have ever needed that. If there are any Polynesian navigators that navigate the Pacific without instruments still alive it would be interesting to see how they did in the test.
So the most common question seems to be: how do we know the magnetic field isn't creating this result by interacting with the electrodes and wires in the cap? The truth is that *while the magnetic field is changing* there is induction in the cap and you can see this as an orange blob 10:12 - However after the field stops changing, there is no more induction and this is the time when the response is measured for decreases in alpha power.
Thank you. Was wondering that.
@Jonathan Giesbrecht blind people place probably more sensitive
@Luke Rieman yeah magnetic fields exert force on any moving charged particles. so, for instance, the sodium, potassium, and chloride ions (which move into and out of neurons to produce the travelling nerve signals that make up brainwaves) will feel a changing force from a changing magnetic field, and thus the direction of their movement will be affected, to some degree. so the fact that there are changes occurring in the brain waves doesn't seem particularly surprising to me. still, the questions of if we subconsciously make use of these effects for navigation, and if/how they manifest themselves consciously for a strong enough magnetic field, are still quite interesting.
they didn't mention that cows very often align themselves with the north-south axe, it's a known phenomena. Also ,why make this experiment only now ? It's weird that this has not been tested before ? **whistling X-files theme**
Have they tried individuals with mhm...temporally augmented physic perception? ;)
as an apprentice my first job attatchment was rewiring motors. One such motor, a 500kW monster, was for spinning massive turbines on mining operations which weve recently redone, which had a start up current spike of an excess of 150 amps, to 100 amps and voltages ranging from 7000V to 5000V at maximum speed. Testing occured over 2hour time intervals as per company standard and the whole time of testing i honest to god was sure i knew exactly where and in which direction that motor was relative to my position in the workshop, which was around 50X40 m across. It was as if my nerves were lightly firing around it. Off coarse nobody believed me and said its the inexperience, heck i didnt even believe myself until seeing this video. Im not saying i actually felt it, but now im really wondering at ifs...
I don't know how many times I've read a white paper and wished I could have been there just to watch the experiment and hear what the folks in lab coats have to say about it apart from what makes it into the paper. This is the next best thing. Please make more!
Dear Veritasium,
This was a very interesting experiment! What I would like to see is the researchers carry out this test in some isolated villages, which have not come in contact with modern technology. The point is to explore if those people, who have not had their "internal magnetic compass" affected by the use of mobiles / headphones / fridges etc., are more sensitive to changes in the fields or not.
This would be important to know, that if they have larger or smaller variations than regular people, then it can be said whether technology actually does affects our natural / forgotten magnetic perception.
Of course I understand the logistic challenges of first finding these people, who have had no contact with any electromagnetic technology, bringing an MRI machine to site and creating these lab conditions in the field (Let alone convincing anyone to put on a funny cap with wires on them!). But still it would be interesting to know.
Thanks for your amazing videos!
My guess is that humans stopped using our ability to detect magnetic waves as some kind of compass (if we ever did that in the first place) much earlier than the proliferation of electronics. That ability would have probably atrophied when we realized other, more visual ways of navigation, like the sun.
I would say any modern technology produces negligible magnetic fields, so not sure what difference, if any, would be observed
pretty curious if it's exposure to emf's that would change the ability to do this or pollution and chemical exposures...
I believe it's not about the use of modern technology. I believe we all have it, but do we notice it? If we did, did we emphasise on it?
There really aren't a lot of isolated villages left in the world. I think there's the Sentinelese, but I don't think they would let themselves be subjects of some weird experiments. Of course, after such experiments, they wouldn't really be isolated anymore.
i actually have surprisingly strong awareness of cardinal directions at most times... not by sensing magnetic field, it's more like a gyroscope with known starting position and some background process in my brain that tracks the changes.
so yes, it has the same shotcomings as actual gyro, shifts over time.
I swear to god I thought this was just me! Nobody believes me when o tell them I can generally tell what direction I’m facing at any given time. Indoors and outdoors
@MidnightSt - I remember reading about some group of people that had a culture of paying attention to their direction (small-town Norse people in the boonies, or something like that?) Maybe you're good at that as well. They simply seemed to have a background process of paying attention and remembering
I got this. I passed out drunk and high after i accidently ate an edible when atrempting to eat and sober up. my friend giving me ride woke me up and asked if i know where we were. I was full on dreaming. I said turning right onto xxxxxxx street. They said "did he just pull a liam Neeson?" Yes. Yes i did. They then had to carry me to the door when i got home.
Magnetoreception MUST exist in people; I for one, am EXTREMELY sensitive to Solar storms and dynamic geomagnetic indices. Sometimes, I get smacked with a sudden, sorta headache-like feeling, then I know to check online. Sure enough, like every time before, weather sites like NOAAs solar forecast, are posting sun flare-ups for THAT day (these phenomenon are unrelated to tropospheric conditions, they exclusively affect Earths magneto).
@Nasser Marzook i'm not sure about that, i'm talking about slow turns like the ones you take when walking around the city. also, i need my eyes open, i haven't really tested my orientation-keeping with eyes closed.
it really is more like a background process in my brain, as what would you get if you spent years training imagining yourself move on a map, while moving in reality.
(which kind of is what I did).
but yeah, much more testing would be required on me to determine what plays how large a part in it.
It would have been interesting to test sherpas, sailors and suchlike to see if their ability to detect the fields is better than for normal people. In theory it should be. Nice video thankyou so much for bringing the latest knowledge!!
What if they check a blind person's reaction to the magnetic fields? Particularly someone born blind.
@LosParanoia Too bad so many are so poorly educated. Doesn't anyone wonder why these supposed super senses aren't the defaults? Seems sad to go blind just to hear better. Jeenyuses, all.
@Mike Mondano You had like 12 people tell you how you were wrong and you double and tripled down. I wish I had your confidence, and I wish you didn't.
Same. I believe they are capable of detecting colors in objects and other things that we could never imagine, let alone put into words.
If the hypothesis of being surrounded my artificial electromagnetic waves weaken our internal compass, I wonder if testing on people that have little to no technology use and then people with over use with technology that have electromagnetic waves would show a difference. Honestly feel that over time our need for long distance travel with no outside help has slowly diminished so our internal compass has weakened but I bet there are people with genetics that have it stronger.
@Taxtro It's also worth noting that cartography is a relatively modern invention. For most of history, whilst there was a general concept of north, east, west, south, people generally wouldn't have had as clear a sense of the cartesian relationships between places as we do. Navigation would have been more about landmarks and prominent features.
@Taxtro Yes i agree, but what does this mean? How would you describe the ability to act like a compass without the word compass? And why would you write about such ability? Did they write about smelling and touching and sensing heat? So why would we expect volumes of writing about magnetoreception?
Leaving off the fact that ancient writing doesn't exist, and the best we have is some cave art, and also most early cultural histories were oral and continue to be.... We should probably look at the cultures who navigate directions without compass. There are some that describe precise compass headings, like "North by NorthWest" to get to fishing spots. They navigate everywhere this way.They have compasses in their heads it seems. They have also been studied by Westerners, there are videos floating around one of the internets.
Since evolution exists (and it does), and numerous biological systems use magnetoreception (and they do),-- we should not be surprised to find latent or dormant abilities in our own biology. Even night vision is on its way out in humans (thanks to light pollution). We may be in a transition with several abilities. Biology picks and chooses, it doesn't keep all the stuff you aren't using.
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The most ancient texts we have are about day-to-day stuff like shopping lists.
And no one ever mentioned any sort of capability to sense compass directions before compasses were invented. They mentioned recognizing landmarks and the positions of celestial objects.
@Axel Aguirre They discussed some of those writings in the video. Plus, many ancient cultures didn't write much down. And what they did write was usually not day to day stories of washing laundry. If it was common, it probably wasn't a big enough deal to carve it in stone.
I’ve always had an excellent sense of direction, but have always attributed it to my brain subconsciously “keeping track” of direction changes like an inertial sensor would do. Or perhaps simply environmental clues like where the sun is. I wonder if sensing magnetic field changes is part of it?
Me too, excellent sense of direction, ever since I was a kid, but it's not as good when I'm in a city. I'd always put it down to having a subliminal awareness of shadows - now I think there are too many other things happening in cities.
@Gandalf the Inebriated so maybe by that analogy, its easier to find north if i havent turned the flashlight on yet. Cuz my eyes are adjusted to the darkness and i sort of have a general sense of where it would be. But if i turn my flashlight on and start looking at all the junk on the table, its distracting and casts misleading shadows?
@Eris It's easier to just illustrate consciousness like a flashlight in the dark storage room that is the subconscious. Concentration and focus demands it, so we can filter out the irrelevant to the task to better see and perceive what we feel is relevant. If we never have felt the the need or interest to know which way North is, or if you're in a magnetic field, it will forever remain in the dark subconscious, since our flashlight has never shone its light on it - so it's filtered away.
@TeamSprocket that makes sense. Humans pick up a variety of subconscious cues that tell us things we arent even aware we're being told. I imagine someone whos got a great sense of direction is getting vestibular cues as well as magnetic. Ive found i often know where north is before i know that i know where north is. Its like a gut feeling that you only get when youre feeling relaxed. It comes from an effortless will. if you try to think about before guessing you easily end up confusing yourself.
That's why they have to come up with this convoluted set up, the vestibular system is very good at informing the brain where it is, and people experienced or talented in a sense of direction confounds the results if it's due to non-magnetic reasons.
I’d be interested to see the differentials of this sense between urban people, rural peoples, aboriginal peoples, and trained navigators like Army Rangers and Navy SEALS. Is there a level of trainability?
I was an NMR spectroscopist for 30 years and worked beside and sometimes under magnets with field strengths that you wouldn't believe. I can't say that I ever had any feeling that I was entering a magnetic field, however. I must not be very sensitive. Cool study, BTW. :)
Thankful for the metaverse that makes this possible.
Glad that you all had this experience!
Notes: a cap of 64 Electrodes can monitor electrical activity in the brain.
Magnetic fields are a part of our senses.
Do you just wander into research facilities at universities and go, "yoooooo, wassup, what've y'all got for me today"?
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This is actually something new to me, and very interesting. I have always thought that as species we lost natural ability to interact with magnetic fields.
It's less gone, but more like our appendix. Useless, tiny, and just needs to go away.
ive always had unexplainable navigation skills. im a big hiker and love trailblazing. I have never been lost. always knew what direction home was even in the dark in unfamiliar places. ive had multiple instances where I knew where I was and gps had wrong info. I could give a dozen storys of night time navigation alone. y oldest son said he thought I was like a bird.
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After moving from the northern hemisphere to the southern hemisphere my sense of north and south, east and west,, was completely reversed. Even after living here for years this still affects me.
Maybe you take subtle cues from the shape of the earth. North is still north no matter where you are so it can't be a magnetic field issue.
As someone who goes fishing in dense rainforest, this ability would be useful to find other water systems or roadways
Could involve two things, nerve sensitivity and iron counts. I would imagine if you had a consistent nerve ting you may be able to feel the blood rotate around the nerve.
My dad could tell what way he was facing inside a mine. His co-workers constantly tested him and he was always correct
There is a guy who works at a grocery store in New Mexico who can do this.
The ability to determine magnetic north is not in the brain itself. Some humans report feeling a sensation in the area above the bridge of the nose extending to the middle of the forehead between the brows. It's probably a localized concentration of *magnetite* in the bone as is the case with birds and some mammals. We can actually feel the physical effect of changes in geomagnetic orientation.
@Matthew W that's awseome except for the accidents part.
interesting... i work with nmr-spectrometres with very strong magnets from time to time and i always wondered about a special feel i had in the machine room. i kept telling myself it would be my imagination but after watching this, im sure that i will measure the power of the magnetic fields in the room somewhen ;) need to find out if its imagination or reality.
seems there a 2 mechanisms. In addition to iron particles, there seem to be light sensitive particles in the eyes which can sense magnetic fields. Specifically, these respond to UVA wavelengths of 350nn to 500nn, and are inhibited by green wavelengths of 500nm and higher. (Similar to newts and fies). Red light interferes with these both.
It seems that humans can orient themselves to magnetic fields much the same way birds do: by using light which effects electrons. These electrons then are effected by magnetic fields. It's a quantum mechanical process.
Interestingly, this effect has only been demonstrated in starvation conditions. This indicates a metabolic component is involved, probably free radicals. (O2-) is one guess. Also, this specific effect has been found in males, but not demonstrated in females at this point. If you would like a more thorough description, the study published in NATURE is a good place to look. (Kwon-Seok Chae,
Soo-Chan Kim, Yongkuk Kim)
Thanks for name-checking Robin Baker's paper - I remember reading it in the 1980s. I've always suspected that I still have a weak magnetic sense, because on some of the many occasions when I've got lost, I generally have a rough idea of where 'home' is, and often I'm reasonably accurate. On a few occasions I've tried to think consciously about it ... and found it doesn't work that way! A great video anyway.
"On some occasions". Ie it works when it works.
It stands to reason that you generally know where home is if you can observe celestial bodies or have landmarks or roughly remember your movements.
question - has anyone done any experiments to see how weather changes may affect peoples head in terms of headaches and migraines? Personally for me, most times when thunder is in the air I tend to get headaches. I'd love to see some experiments into this study
Yeah air pressure changes cause headaches for some people
Connie says that magnetic fields don`t make you smarter but since I watched this video I already feel a lot more intelligent :-) Thanks a lot for for this!
During the past year I've been working on a navigation control system for nano satellite and I've been using the B-dot algorithm.
I had a system that can mimic the earth magnetic field during orbit using Helmholtz cage.
I felt nothing, but the earth magnetic field is weak (up to 65*10^-6 T)
If people have different sensitivity to magnetic fields, could this perhaps be one of the reasons some people have great sense of direction while others do not?
No.
People simply pay more or less attention to the landmarks they've passed and whether they've changed directions.
I'm very sensitive to EM radiation but, have a horrible sense of direction but, I also have Lyme disease which causes both of those things.
@Tumbolisu that's a great comment!
Recently found out bears also have this ability. They can find home even when taken hundreds of miles away. Walks straight there like it knew where it was.
As a kid before I had a phone I used this subconciasly to navigate in the wilderness, was just normal for me, when grew up and got a phone i forgot about this thing, I'll start practicing this again now, thank you !
I love hearing scientists describe their work.
I know I'm pretty late to the party but I can say anecdotally that after turning a certain direction without turning back, I feel a strong compulsion to rotate back the same amount that I turned in the first place and it feels pretty precise
I spent two weeks this summer in the Trinity Alps of Northern California, and the sun kept coming up in the wrong place. the Trinities are misaligned to the rest of the cascades, and yes, I most certainly noticed the effect. look into them, they are a geological anomaly. not only are they sideways, but upside down as well.
My grandmother could feel wires in walls, up until her forties, then she lost the ability.
She can still tell where north is, no matter where she is.
I know where north is at all times just from spatial awareness; it isn't hard
lmao. Yeah, no she cannot.
@Rabo Karabekian Looks like you got better.
@Max IzrinShe turned me into a newt,
Great information. I'd love to see more on it. Thanks.
My mum and I seem to have a pretty good, innate sense of cardinal directions, so I'd be curious to see what our results would be in this experiment.
When I was a toddler, my parents figured out that I could "feel" magnetic north. I understand that I said "We're going the wrong way" enough that they realized I had a better sense of direction than they did. It became a parlour trick (or front yard trick) to put a bag over my head and spin me around and make me point toward north. I was pretty unerring. My magneto-sense seems to have vanished (pretty much) by about 2nd grade or so.
@Game Plays 1230 That's interesting. And did it stay with you for a period of time? Do you still have it? Were you in familiar surroundings you might have recognized when you woke up? And how old were you?
@Terre Schill, I think I had the ability, 5 years ago I was knocked unconscious at school and when I woke up I knew the direction I was facing
@Taxtro No, I think there was something to it. I have heard of a small number of kids that age that have the same ability, and I remember feeling it in my head. Robin's sense of orientation and ability to navigate over long distances has been proven to be a function of quantum entanglement, and I bet this is the case for every species that can navigate that way.
They probably just sucked at disorienting you.
This reminds me of certain cultures and especially ancient cultures that used or still use a system of right/left south/north very unlike our own. They refer to 'before me' as East, etc. Its a fascinating study of how we relate to time now versus then, as well as spatial frames of reference. I wouldn't be the least surprised if some members of those existing cultures were very, very sensitive to the fields. You should find a few for test subjects.
That was literally mentioned in the video
Hunters in the field have an intrinsic ability for this. I spent years in the woods as a youth and have always been able to find the way home. I would not be so positive about what our brains can or cannot do. Good study grasshopper
When you were sleeping in the car as a kid and you could feel that one turn that meant you were home
no
Not gonna lie that one turn to the crib always hits different 😂😂
Oh wow, driving on a freeway, then getting off and knowing the last turn that meant you were home is such a mystery, how do kids do it???
Sorry for late reply but I feel like, and I'm not college educated on any of this, but I feel as if it's a sort of muscle memory because you take that route every day home from school and it's imprinted in your subconscious mind so you recognized when you are on that last turn. I don't think it's a magnetic phenomenon I think from subconsciously observing it many times your brain knows exactly how many turns and gravity shifts there are until you get home so when sleeping or lightly sleeping your subconscious, maybe unconscious mind (not sure) is keeping track and tells you when to awake signaling the arrival at home
That's more of a basic sensory cue. *Everyone* that has a cat or a dog knows, you can talk a lot, and even loud, and they keep sleeping sometimes even if you're being loud in the kitchen or something. Yet when you make "the" voice to tell them it's food or something, they're up on their feet in less than a second. 😂 You brain filters stimuli when you sleep, so you can even get used to airplanes flying above your house and not wake up. But should you hear the cat puke, you're up on your feet in less than a second too, lol!
Thanks for showing this.
This is hard to prove, but in the early 2000s with the old bar and flip cellphones I used to be able to sense when the phone was going to ring a half a second before it rang.
It was a very strong and confident sensation.
I became convinced it had to do with the pre-ring handshake the cellphone tower and the cellphone make. Back then stereos weren’t as well EM shielded and you could hear a ticking sound sometimes before the cellphone rang. But I would know even before that or This would also happen if there wasn’t an active speaker around.
However, I stopped getting the sensation after newer phones in the late 2000s started to come out. So, I’m not sure what changed but perhaps it was some kind of subconscious sound related phenomenon after all with the stereos or some EM sensation I perceived, or I just got old haha.
Anyways, I don’t have a way to prove this so purely anecdotal. Thanks for listening.
Nice, I like your part about the stereos and the shielding. I had some cheap speakers that I would click or tick when an sms was coming (about 10 years ago). I fully believe in your story.
I have this too. Before it rings there's like a chill in the upper back of my head.
You're psychic, develop your skills
kind of "at the feeling levels", but over the years I noticed being able to sense the presence of complex, electricity powered, machinery. it's not annoying and I feel much better when surrounded by tech, as well as when I'm not. those are just different conditions for relaxation and study. somehow being near the electronics allows me to learn things faster, even when they aren't used. I don't consider myself special over it but it was one of the things I thought everyone have.
Seeing this reminded me of something I heard in the past couple years (maybe on one of your videos) about people such as Hawaiians and other island cultures and how they have a better sense of direction than most people who come from big continents.
I vividly remember being able to tell the cardinal directions as a kid (like 7-10 years ago) before I got my first smartphone
I guess it dissolved after that not because of like "toxic radiation" or stuff but more that I watched a lot of movies, videos etc which is basically experiencing direction changes without any actual changes
I believe it is at least in part a learned ability. I grew up (age 3 to 13) in Florida, next to a large woods that was flat and void of differential features in all direction. We were ALWAYS headed out to the woods. When the sun was directly overhead or had set, it was impossible to know which way you were going by looking around. And yet, I never got lost. I always had this "bump of direction."
In AF survival school, during our overnight hike, around 2 AM, when I had the lead, the instructor called a halt and asked me where north was. I pointed, nailed it, before he said, "Now how do you know that? You haven't looked at your compass ONCE in the last 10 minutes! Use your compass!!!" Okay...
While in the military, I drove in 9 countries and multiple deserts which were greatly lacking in visual and other cues. I never once got lost. Occasionally and temporarily disoriented, yes, but never lost.
Finally, as an avid hiker, I routinely blasted off into the mountains here in Colorado without ever getting disoriented.
SO! Results??? Apparently, it is indeed a scientific thing. My experience confirms that SOMETHING is behind my bump of direction.
Keep up the great research!
>When the sun was directly overhead or had set, it was impossible to know which way you were going by looking around
The sun is rarely directly overhead, there is stars in the night (polaris is pretty much directly over north), vegetation isn't symmetric in all directions, etc.
What’s it feel like? Do you feel something if you look in a direction like north or south or do you just have gut instinct?
Would be interesting to know if people with a really good sense of direction also have the ability to sense magnetic field changes.
@Dennis Koppo Does he drive his truck offroad through the Amazonas rain forest or sth?
I always know what direction I'm travelling on the road as well, that hardly requires a compass.
I suppose that is different. One is about geomagnetic and the EHS is about electromagnetic.
Ok yes, ever since I was a kid I was able to tell you which direction I was facing. Something else, and this will likely demonstrate how very unscientific my mind is, what about people who have electromagnetic hypersensitivity, who become physically ill when exposed? Is that different?
Joe Maybe that's what "Dead Reckoning" is
A friend of mine is a truck driver and claims to have hypersensitivity to the earth's magnetic field. He claims he always knows in what direction he is traveling. He has sensed this "talent" for a long time and even has a compass rose tattoo on his arm.
A Qi Gong master in Hong Kong gave me postures to feel the north magnetic field, with practice I could feel a tingling sensation in my hands with my arms stretched horizontally; by moving my whole body clockwise, I could sense the tingling stronger when approaching north. But as said by Prof Shimojo, electro-magnetic waves are so present and getting stronger everyday that we probably lost the ability to feel the earth magnetosphere. It would interesting to monitor other brain waves, other than the Alpha, in a similar experiment...
I've always been able to figure out North somehow. I've spent a lot of time hiking and in nature, and I wonder if my sense for north has to do with a stronger reaction to magnetic fields.
I want to see this studied in people who grew in different cities and places. I grew up on Long Island where most important main roads (highways) go either east-west or north-south. I consider myself to have a relatively good sense for cardinal directions because I have learned to navigate oriented to this grid-like system, and I have friends who grew up in Manhattan who also seem to have an extremely good grasp of this for similar reasons. If someone grew up in an old town or a rural place without an organized grid system, would that affect the development of this sense? Could grid-dwellers hone this through practice?
I used to work as a crane operator and I used a magnetic lifting crane and I know for a fact that there were times I could sense the magnet. I've walked up to the magnet and knew the last shift left it on just by the feel
Imagine what it would be like, while having the ability to detect the electromagnetic fields moving around the space near you. What may be possible is to literally pick up EMF auras off people.
I love how they are crouching at the entrance explaining neuroscience. 😆
oh dayum, i cracked up.
Same
@James B. Patrick lmao
Its almost a signal in my brain, when people talk in the most uncomfortable positions voluntarily then they might be talking the truth. I might be wrong but that's what I think...I found that interesting too...
I really, super loved this part as well. It felt like a very comfortable.
As far as the cardinal reference with the the aboriginals of Australia in their language. They have expectation of having body orientation constantly(it’s a social expectation)- so it would be interesting to see if it amplifies this ability or they are tapping into it.
I love these with the magnetic researchers. Good luck to them.
Could this be related to what side of the equator the individuals under test are from/usually live? If living in one area, closer or further from the poles, would that result in a more consistent variation between CW and CCW response?
I definitely feel like I’ve walked into a cloud of static electricity, as soon as I stepped outside I felt this weird energy and my hair stood up. Never happened since though
I'd like to see a five-year review of this. I understand I'm giving two years notice, however I also understand that he probably has a bunch of video ideas already lined up, and that making videos takes time.
Wouldn’t another variable to consider is the strength of the constant magnetic field (the Earth’s field in this experiment) and the magnitude of the controlled field? I wonder if the results would be more or less accurate depending on the location of the experiment. Love the videos!
Okay. This is so amazing. My mom & husband (my husband especially) know their directions inherently. I’ve always thought it was so weird & unexplainable to me. We just had a conversation the other day about how amazing of a phenomenon it was & I just can’t believe it. We actually did an experiment where I had my husband close his eyes in a pitch dark bathroom, spin around a few times & then tell me what direction was which & he was correct. Anytime we go out of town, we can be in a TOTALLY foreign place in the middle of nowhere downtown & he’ll know exactly what direction is which. Anyway... you get the point. It’s just seriously unbelievable to me. I can’t even comprehend how incredible it is.
@Devin _"The only place I've ever been lost was Las Vegas casino"_
And that's by design. Watched a documentary on Vegas where it was commented the color schemes, patterns, lighting, and casino floor layout are all very carefully designed with the input of neurologists, behavioral specialists, etc. to keep visitors essentially "locked in" by walking around the casino in circles.
Men are more sensitive, I remember watching a KZclip video were they claimed this is one of those old inherented thing from the past but shortly put. Because men would travel for hunts, they mutated this ability.
The only place I've ever been lost was Las Vegas casino, not even a map can help you in sin city
The experiments of Dr. Robin Baker of Manchester University suggest that humans are also sensitive to changes in Earth's magnetic field. Dr. Robin Baker first placed people inside a darkened room and asked them to locate North. Most of the time people got it right. But when Baker then fitted these same subjects with a little magnetic skullcap, they lost their ability to find North. This strongly suggests the presence of an internal compass or biological clock.
Scientists have discovered Magnetic particles in Cerebellum.
News flash, your husband looks at the sun, I use to pull the finger trick on girls and surprise them how long before the sun goes down lol
I mean no disrespect with the following comment; merely counterpoint and corroboration. Those of us who *_do_* have the ability to inherently know direction can’t even comprehend what it would be like to *_not_* have the ability. It is as natural and as easy for us as breathing, seeing, or hearing.
I've had it since...well...forever; even as a young child I had an unerring sense of direction that predated being educated on cardinal directions, map reading, and the use of a compass. I can't get lost or turned around; believe me, people have tried. I just assumed everyone had this ability. It's only as I grew into adulthood that I came to realize that not everyone has it.
None of this is to be construed as claiming the existence of a sixth sensitivity to magnetic fields. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. It could be multi-sensorial relying on sight, sound, kinesthesia, orientation awareness, and perhaps even a magneto sensitivity; more research is required. Perhaps the mechanism is different for different people. In my case I largely attribute it to having near-photographic recall of the spaces through which I pass. Without conscious effort, I'm constantly aware of and updating a three-dimensional map of my surroundings in my head.
Combined with an understanding of cardinal direction and environmental cues, I always know where I've come from and how to plot a route back to that starting point; even after hiking miles away without bothering to use a map or compass. Outside of needing to pinpoint a specific location within a few meters accuracy in a wilderness I've never visited before, I have no need of them.
Regardless of the mechanics of _how_ the sense works, it _does_ work. I would consider the loss of that sense as devastating as losing my hearing; that's how intrinsic and essential I consider it.
Very interesting! Brilliant work! 😃
I find it interesting, when I was growing up, my dad would randomly ask "which way is north?" Now, he did after hours of hiking. Or driving around for hours at night even in completely unfamiliar places. I'm not saying I've got super powers or anything but my sense of direction is pretty dang good
I can definitely see this being a lost skill of sorts as we began building cities and roads to get around, we would have relied on it less and used the emerging kinds of informational wayfinding. I’d be interested to see if people who are very active in nature, like hikers and mountain bikers may have a more refined sense of this, or people like race drivers or fighter pilots where it may just feel like a refined sense like balance. You don’t really think about it being there, it just works.
Honestly, that team of researchers seem like they'd be really fun to work with.
I have found at times walking backwards while working
An ability to detect that I was about to back into things
I have also found myself a few times suddenly turn around
And look up seeing comets
There is people that sense they're being stared at
And thoughts of someone maybe telepathy
I love all of these consistent uploads, Derek
Ok, Sean
Unlike Vsauce :(
@Sean Demers Oh ya I wasn't saying it was a bad thing if it came across that way I apologise
@50% Off I just wanted him to personally feel good about making his audience happy.
Well I have a question for you.
Do you get lost often or no you always remember your way accurately (or at least most of the times)?
Not just a question for you but for all those who took that magnetic test. Because if that helps pigeons to find their way home, then the people who fall under the category of someone being highly responsive to the magnetic field changes should be those who aren’t the ones who get lost the most.
Like I get lost quite often and was wondering what kind of brain response I might give after that test. Well not just asking the question would make it clear but other factors like remembering landmarks to find the way back or memorising lefts and rights must be properly taken into account and manipulated while testing to see if magnetic field perception actually helps or not.
(If I made any sense, thank God!!)
I'd be interested to know some examples of languages that use only cardinal directions instead of front/back/left/right. Are the cultures that use these cardinal direction languages concentrated in a particular geographic area or spread all over the world?
Very interesting research on a subject that most humans, I daresay, have wondered about since childhood.
I noticed thru hiking the Appalachian trail that I got a stronger sense of direction. Love your videos.
I'd love to see this tested in a comparison between people with sensory sensitivity and people without. I'm not yet formally trained in neuroscience, but I'd imagine some distances may be detected between someone with tinnitus+/visual snow and someone without if it is measuring neural acitivty and response to stimuli. What if, just as the sensitive person's brain cannot as easily filter visual and auditory stimuli, it may also be more sensitive to changes in the magnetic field.
I love how janky their setup was for the experiment. Makes me feel a lot better about my own projects
@S_Carol I can confirm!
'and your paper will be published when this video comes out'
'........y..e..s...'
@Payal KAt least until they get more funding.
Ofcourse it is so.. it should work well with minimum investment...it doesn't have to look good
Looks very much like a prototype time machine. 🤣🤣
I’ve always had a brilliant sense of direction unless I’m in a building in which case it goes I always assumed it’s because of my natural response to where the Sun is
Veritassium do you think they would benefit from subjects with disturbed vestibular system like myself, with a condition called migraine vertigo. Which impacts my vestibular ability to sense position, therefore could my sense of magnetic fields be amplified? I was wondering if these tests have been done on people like me, I would love to take part in testing as a subject to find out.
I am the perfect test subject for this, I 95% am confident I can detect the smallest changes in my surroundings
I so wish that I could try this out. I’ve always been told I have the internal compass of a bird. I don’t think I’d ever be lost lol
I know that I can tell that a magnetic field is working in my brain and body. Especially when I get sick and when we have a full moon my bp gets somewhat higher than normal and when I’m hurting the pain is worse during night’s and during the full moon. I’m sick as we speak and come around dark thirty I feel twice as bad. I’ve always told people that I could feel the magnetic pull on my body but most of the younger generation just laugh’s but the older generation agrees with me. I can tell by watching my dogs that they are also affected by this also. Not as much as I can tell about myself but I always knew it was the pull of the magnetic field messing with me.
"And you're sure that this isn't just to make people look stupid?"
"No, no, no. That's just a bonus."
Hahaha showing science is fun
.. that's what 'MAGA' caps are for.
@ferrous719 And his uncommonly good looks are due to bilateral facial symmetry. I believe he did a video on this. Well, he is good looking too.
Derek's an uncommonly good looking guy though, so it just makes him look a little silly
@The Real Jar weirdo
I don’t think we can communicate telepathically like this but I do believe this is where the 6th sense comes from. It’s a subconscious yes/no about other ppl.
You guys should test Chileans. Since majority of cities are in valleys, we grow up using cardinal directions because mountains are always on the east and most cities are built using street grids.
Imagine in 100 years years from now when this has been studied and the ability has been amplified !!
I'd be interested in seeing this in other cultures that are pre-modern and are cardinal referencing.
It may be that people living in modern society never train their brains to utilize this sense, and so are less sensitive to it, whereas those in cultures that need it for survival may have this sense better atuned to detect magnetism and directionality.
There was also a research group that tried to use a haptic belt that tracked direction on humans and see if they could train them to be attuned to directions. I wonder what happens to this sense in those who were subjects of this research.
would be very interesting to see two already tested people, where one was very sensitiv and the otherone being only slightly sensitiv, being in there together and their probably changed result
So... Did the brain react to the magnetic field, or does it just affect the sensors?
Was there a calibration and test of the sensors in the field without a brain between them?
@Paskaloth The earth's field is not "strong" it is about half a gauss. Something 500 times bigger about 300 gauss, can easily produce forces on a nail held in the hand that you could feel. Just giving you a scale factor.
Christie Malry its not about homing abilities, its about the brain reacting to magnetic stimulus. you are drawing a conclusion that has not been made in the paper nor by the authors. whats been discovered is that the brain actually reacts to magnetic stimulus, not that we can feel it, and also no derived abilities. to test this conclusion would require further study or rather is a theory for the following discussion but is NOT the actual result.
Christie Malry then why bother with some scienties just saying they found some more hint that the brain react in some sort to magnetic fields? It's not even like they try to say that we have a seventh sense or something...
Christie Malry after looking at your channel, i withdraw my statemant and correct it to just dont forget your tinfoil hat and everything will be fine
Christie Malry Thats just not how a halleffect sensor etc. work. Except this, If the Field stopps changing in the room, it can't affect the data even if the coils still get their AC induced in the sensors. Everything that is inducing something in the sensor, will cancel it self out by the way they analyse the data and by the way the equiptment works. This brainsensors are not build by some hobbyelectrician xD And the people critcising their faraday cage should inform themself (which even kids can today) how it works. Doesnt matter in this case if they spend a few bucks or thousands so i looks better. And scientist often struggle for money, sothey spend their money on function and not optics...
And since they say by themselfe, they just want to see if the brain reacts, and without a doubt, it does in some sort. But as they say, you wont recognize it/will never affect you. But we can't say if there is one person out of millions, propably able to sense changing field without even knowing it. They research in a field that was just opened. And if you get into brain studys you quickly learn that our brain filters most of the informations it gets out of our conciousnes, what we hear, see and feel is just a fragment of the informationflood our brain gets.
Haven't watched the vid, but always "knew" where North was when I was a kid. Went Caving (did the caving tour @ jewel cave) and after an hour the ranger asked us to point north. I did. I did it over and over and over again no matter how many twists and turns we made, he said he'd never seen anything like it. I lost that ability at some point.
Wow excellent video and experiment! Thanks for covering this!
I've always had trouble with right vs left. Like, I have to wiggle my fingers and feel which hand my wedding ring is on to identify which is which if I need to know (used to use positioning my hands as though holding a pen and noting which "felt wrong"). But I usually knew which cardinal direction I was facing, and used that for navigation. People learned not to ask me for directions, bc I'd never say "turn right", but rather "turn east" or "go southwest on ".
Then a few years ago I tripped and got a mild concussion. I haven't been able to identify direction since then. And didn't magically replace it with swift left/right differentiation. Cannot navigate without visual GPS now, which I had never bothered with before bc my compass system rarely failed. Visual, and map-based, because the audio relies on left/right, as do most written directions from people.
It's definitely real, magnetic pulsing devices are even added to some touchpads on laptops to provide the sense of 'clicking' without actually having a mechanical tactile switch under the pad.
After being a tour guide for 7 years at the Oregon Vortex I will guarantee that we are indeed sensitive to electromagnetic fields. The Vortex has a shifting magnetic field that can cause compasses to spin or bob, or work perfectly fine, you just don't know which it will be. The Flux in energy is felt differently day to day but also changes the degree of the visual optical illusions witnessed. Sometimes the height changes appear minimal while other times they appear extreme.
As with most everything not everybody is affected equally. Each individual is just that individual in their sensitivities and reactions.
I would like to see this study over different age groups. We know the mind changes with age and with age we lose certain abilities. Is this something that we can hone in on as child and then forget about as an adult due to basic technology like a compass and maps. Very Interesting. Thanks for another great video.
I had no navigational sense as a kid. I still have no navigational sense as an adult. Either some have it and some don’t or your premise is wrong.
Neuroplasticity anyone?
My sense of direction was good as a kid and lousy as an adult.
"we know..." no ya don't
big buildings usually give me large magnetic vibes when i stand directly in front of them and look up, or that vertigo feeling also feels magnetic tensions when you on the edge of tall places.
I believe, human can really feel the magnetic field. And tbh, I think I can feel it when others can't. I usually talk to my friends, did they felt anything when they use the lift, and they said no. What I felt was something strong pressure my head and my body like when you float in the sea. something like that. To be honest, for the first time, I thought that's because my claustrophobia. But when I use the underground train (monorail train), I felt the pressure even great, much bigger than when I am Inside a lift. And I just realized that the two of them (lift and monorail station) have the same thing in common. They have like big 'magnet' to operate these things. And that's what I felt.
I can even feel the flow of the electricity (big power like in mall) that move below my foot. tbh, that's the first one I did notice, feel weird, because I can feel the exact place where the cable flow, from one place to other place. And in the place where there is no electricity, I can tell. Weird right? I believe it happened after I'm in a great stress. Maybe that triggers it.
I really wish I could try this one myself. I feel like I have an ok sense of direction and I want to know for sure if I'm right or not.
I had an MRI 15 minutes ago.
20 minutes in with my eyes closed, I was watching pjosphenes that looked like drops falling in a pool in the darkness, and I thought of this video.
No idea if the MRI had anything to do with it, but it was interesting to think about!
Being raised by a boat captain my instructions as to where I was or where I was going, was 100 % related to the cardinal directions. Also, I'm unable to wear watches, even the good one's. For some reason they stop within 60 day's of wearing one. I'd be interested in this experiment 👌
Super high tech testing.... in a 1970's recliner. That's balance
😊
3:56 Very relaxing
Can't we get along for one day?
slam zamillion I doubt you're wrong, but still.
A stool is a stool, nothing new to invent there.
You should test sailors and captains of ships of how they react to the magnetic force. :3
Have they tested people with sever EMF sensitivity? I have heard there are people who get sick from EMF exposure and have to Protect at least part of their homes with Faraday cages for relief of their symptoms. Love the channel!
They've tested them and found out that "EMF sensitivity" doesn't exist.
Everyone always told me I was crazy for saying I was sensitive to magnets. I feel a definitive change when touching a magnet and prolonged touching can cause nausea. Started when I was a kid and played with some of the magnets my grandma used to hold her sewing needles
Your brain has an electromagnetic wave running through it, so I don't know why you wouldn't be able to feel a magnet's effects, since it's well know magnets can bend and change those types of fields.