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M2 Pro Mac Mini Review: Game Changer!


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  • Cody Siler
    Cody Siler 2 ай бұрын +6583

    Love hearing you speak about the "normal user" instead of just video export speeds and other creator uses. This seems like a great deal for those who need an Apple product for classes / etc.

    • Πάνος
      Πάνος 27 күн бұрын

      @Some_One_001 you just described you want a machine that runs excel 🤦🏻

    • Πάνος
      Πάνος 27 күн бұрын

      @Juce some software is apple exclusive. Windows has assassins creed mac had exclusive software (usually the best option available too)

    • Un Usuario
      Un Usuario Ай бұрын

      If I was a regular user, I'd skip the Pro version and I would go with the base Mac Mini model.

    • Juce
      Juce Ай бұрын

      @Milkyy 😂😂😂 awkkkk

    • Milkyy
      Milkyy Ай бұрын

      @Juce unfortunately your comment was placed right below comments that gave courses that require macos 😂

  • Rotissary
    Rotissary Ай бұрын +400

    I normally clown on Apple products but this is super impressive. Powerful, well priced, portable, recycled materials, and the ability to select your own peripherals. Great upload

    • dom anca
      dom anca Ай бұрын +1

      @lopwidth every computer in every classroom at my school (music) is an iMac and its really not a big or rich school at all

    • Baaska Ulziibileg
      Baaska Ulziibileg Ай бұрын

      @catboy thank you

    • catboy
      catboy Ай бұрын +3

      @Baaska Ulziibileg
      Definitely, you might need a bit more RAM if you’re working on multiple projects at the same time or working on a really big project. But if you’re not, maybe extra storage instead, but the M2 will run photoshop like it’s nothing.

    • Baaska Ulziibileg
      Baaska Ulziibileg Ай бұрын +2

      noob here, will this be enough for photoshop and illustrator

    • lopwidth
      lopwidth Ай бұрын +2

      @DerKaiser iMacs are too expensive. I have seen one in my entire lifetime

  • Guido Haverkort
    Guido Haverkort Ай бұрын +405

    One of the first apple products in years that makes actual sense for regular costumers

    • 8XUS Tech
      8XUS Tech 14 күн бұрын

      Oh it makes far more than sense. this literally APPEALS to customers

    • thejjzz
      thejjzz Ай бұрын

      This is good news after the WTF moments with the new iPad

    • Andreas Duess
      Andreas Duess Ай бұрын +6

      @steve steve lose ≠ loose. Important.
      Also, lose market share? The M1 transfer is one of the most successful launches in decades. I'd love to see your numbers.

    • Electrician Ron
      Electrician Ron  Ай бұрын


    • Jaye Mitchell
      Jaye Mitchell Ай бұрын +6

      @Winstan points made:0

  • Public Tech Channel
    Public Tech Channel Ай бұрын +82

    The reason for my appreciation of this individual is his consistent delivery of high-quality content. He never fails to meet our expectations.

  • ljdelgado
    ljdelgado Ай бұрын +112

    After watching so many of your videos over the years, today I realize ten years ago I watched your series on fastest Mini, which I eventually replicated. Come 2023 and I'm still using that 2012 Mini with 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD; still holding up, but guess why I'm watching today's video hahaha... Cheers

    • Bino Huan
      Bino Huan Ай бұрын +2

      Wow that is amazing story.

    • Cohen
      Cohen Ай бұрын +5

      You'd probably be blown away with an upgrade. I'm not a Mac user nor do I think I will be. But things like this are just so... tempting

    • Dean Dighe
      Dean Dighe Ай бұрын +6

      They’re so stable. Happy upgrade!

  • Swxxby
    Swxxby 2 ай бұрын +758

    Your Fastest Man Mini (2012) video was the first piece of content which, brought you and your channel to my attention. I replicated the project a year later but subscribed right away. Just want to say thank you for creating and sharing great tech content for over a decade. Wishing you and your team many more years in this space, peace!

    • Cyril
      Cyril Ай бұрын

      Cool! An OG fan! 🤩 Had you pegged since day one. Thanks for the support! 🤝

    • Linus Pust
      Linus Pust Ай бұрын +4

      A truly great documentary about about the childhood of Usain Bolt.

    • William
      William 2 ай бұрын +2

      Same for me

    • WhY So SeRioUs?
      WhY So SeRioUs? 2 ай бұрын +2

      dont tell apple its a good deal

    • Vic Winkler
      Vic Winkler 2 ай бұрын +3

      True that!
      Marques has really done well for the community

  • James Scholes
    James Scholes Ай бұрын +10

    M1/M2 mac mini are the first apple computers in a looooong time which I would actually consider owning. It's really hard to argue against it as a portable workstation. Almost everywhere I go I can probably find a monitor, and bring a keyboard/mouse along, and for the money I save over speccing out an ultrabook I can probably throw in a luggable screen for coffee shop use too. Also asahi has been making huge strides forwards. Watching with interest.

    • 8XUS Tech
      8XUS Tech 14 күн бұрын

      Now i want one…

  • Kevin Malibu
    Kevin Malibu Ай бұрын +43

    It's crazy the number of options we have these days! We used the "trash can" Mac Pro at my old videography job -- this would KILL now!

      GOAT OF DUTY Ай бұрын

      Sadly these Mini PCs, including Mac Minis and Studio just serve a SPECIAL PURPOSE.
      In general the average person is still better served with a MacBook of any kind used with external Screen, KB and mouse, like this the whole mac is portable and independent from anything on the desk and by using AlDente you can control the battery very good to mainain its performance and for best longevity.

  • Wild Outdoor Living
    Wild Outdoor Living Ай бұрын +3

    I've had my M1 Mac Mini for a couple of years now and it has been incredible. I run Zwift on it (a cycling game/simulator) that is notoriously taxing on hardware, a bit of video and photo editing and other normal stuff. I was able to pair it with a keyboard and mouse I actually like and a 32" display (1080p resolution). The end result is an easy to use and comfortable set up that is always ready to go. Obviously you could go with a 4k display and a name brand keyboard to make it even nicer but I think my whole set up was less than $1000. Plus if something gets damaged it doesn't necessarily take down the entire system (like when a dog threw his chew toy into my mac book screen in 2009.

  • Mike Stanek
    Mike Stanek Ай бұрын +29

    This is my first Mac ever
    Was going to buy the M1 a year and a half ago and then heard rumors the M2 was right around the corner. After holding off for a year and a half I finally got this one. So excited.

  • Mohamed Ansary
    Mohamed Ansary Ай бұрын +4

    The M2 Pro Mac Mini is a game changer! It's powerful, sleek and perfect for both work and play. The upgrade to the M2 chip makes a significant difference in performance and the compact design makes it easy to take on the go. Overall, a fantastic device that I highly recommend. Thanks, Marques.

  • Linus Potocnik
    Linus Potocnik 2 ай бұрын +542

    The speed of improvement and performance-affordability always fascinates me every time I think about it. Think back like 10 years ago, something like a HD video recording or a terabyte of storage was something incredibly impressive and expensive, while nowadays you wouldn’t even be impressed by a camera with 4K recordings because tech got so affordable. Truly an amazing era to live in!

    • 観音
      観音 Ай бұрын

      Meh, y'all also forget that while 1tb was impressive at one point, that was during a time when the footage/apps/games didn't take up 300gb each. None of this is really as impressive, more so necessity. I still don't get 4k. Like yeah, it's nice if you have a home theater but my average screen? Unless i am drawing something on my wacom where I have to get upclose for extra precision, it's barely noticeable. It's just useless, marginal improvements atm that are only impressive to average people who barely have any clue about the subjects (like cameras) at all. That being said, tech getting smaller is something I hugely enjoy, makes my desk less cluttered and more the stuff I engage with more enjoyable.

    • Zaydan Alfariz
      Zaydan Alfariz Ай бұрын

      @Px4164 I still can't afford 4TB tho. 1TB however has been in the reach these days

    • Zaydan Alfariz
      Zaydan Alfariz Ай бұрын

      @Kaktus Goreng Well, Microsoft still creates Arm products. It's not that focused not because Microsoft doesn't want. But because, porting would be difficult. Even to this day, Apple Silicon devices still aren't ready for gaming yet thanks to lack of native games.

    • Px4164
      Px4164 Ай бұрын +1

      whaaaat? my 12 yo 8 thread machine could rip HD as fluent as you like on resolve, having 4TB of drives there from day one, your statement would be true for 4K video and and 1PB storage.... but we still are far ahead of that in home setup.

    • cutepinkbandanaman
      cutepinkbandanaman Ай бұрын

      Computer memory hasn't really had a lot of progress in ten years, but smartphone cameras were still improving in like 2013-2018 for sure. Lots of performance/affordability worsening innovation in the name of "consumer wants these buzz words so let's make them cheaper to include" as well though, SSDs started cutting DRAM cache more commonly and my Samsung Galaxy S4 Active from 2013 had IP67 water resistance and a battery I could easily replace.

  • Group W Bench
    Group W Bench Ай бұрын +7

    I was a big fan of the 2012 Mac Mini which if I remember correctly was the only upgradable Mac Mini available and at the time, it was a killer machine with its Intel i7 and maxed out ram, etc. I still run that machine in my basement for basically just web surfing and light video editing and it still eats up whatever task I throw at it. It's definitely an overlooked product and now with everything that I learned from this video about the new product lineup.... I might be putting my 2021 16" MacBook Pro in the backseat to make room for a maxed out Mini. Thanks for the great video!

  • Anthony Draper
    Anthony Draper Ай бұрын +4

    I’ve used an M1 Mac Mini for the past couple years now and it’s been a blast. I love that they’ve upgraded it to M2 and it’s cheaper! And yeah, I don’t have to upgrade my monitor and keyboard every time I get a new one. It’s become my favorite Apple product (favorite computer even) after my iPad which I use alongside the Mac Mini every day.

    • James Sayer
      James Sayer Ай бұрын

      Hello, what monitor r u using? Also, can I connect a Mac mini to a 2015 27” iMac? Thanks.

  • Vivek Chavan
    Vivek Chavan Ай бұрын +11

    This video has got me absolutely convinced to get one of these. I'm on a 2015 Mac Air and I've been wanting to upgrade since the M1 chips came out but they were just a little over the edge for me in terms of price. This fits right in. Thanks Marques!

  • podracer35
    podracer35 Ай бұрын +18

    Dang... The size of that makes me want one for the portability and space saving, but I'm personally not a Mac user. I do hope we get some PC equivalents in this size and price range (assuming it doesn't exist already, which it certainly might and I just don't know about it)

    • E. L.
      E. L. Ай бұрын

      Apple upgrade pricing aside, you really can't beat the entry level base model for price and performance equivalent on a PC prebuilt...

    • Nandobeatsmusic
      Nandobeatsmusic Ай бұрын +5

      The size is so nice I put in my backpack and go to my friends house and just connect it to his tv

  • joel richards
    joel richards Ай бұрын +3

    If you spec out a Pro mini with comparable RAM, SSD, and ethernet it is about the price of the M1 Max Studio. It will be interesting to see what happens to the pricing once the M2 (or M3 studio is released). It is the Apple way to ladder/tier their prices but these two items actually seem TOO close once the generation gap is closed.

  • CJC 3636
    CJC 3636 2 ай бұрын +589

    From a almost-ignored back trail in the Apple Mac line, to an actual important upper-mid level performer. Very cool!

    • Cameron Bosch
      Cameron Bosch Ай бұрын +2

      I'd argue that the iMac has become the more niche almost-ignored Mac in Apple's Mac lineup. It tries to serve the "family computer" role, but it's too expensive, too impractical (with the port selection), and too much e waste for that role anymore.

    • Cyril
      Cyril Ай бұрын

      👍 Wow, that's amazing! 🤯

  • Max Davids
    Max Davids Күн бұрын

    Hi! I primarily use After Effects for rigging and animating many layers, sometimes high res. As much as shorter render times are a blessing I am more concerned about viewport playback and timeline scrubbing, so I can manually view my animations. I was considering the Mac Mini M2 Pro, with upgraded processor, 32GB memory and possibly a 4TB SSD. With these added costs would I be better purchasing the base Mac Studio, which still costs a lot more?

  • tigerrx
    tigerrx Ай бұрын +25

    Marques is the kind of guy who’ll subtly show you how dope he is with his little action figure while doing a dope tech review. Well done!

    • Jiaming Sun
      Jiaming Sun Ай бұрын +2

      Wonder where is it from, is it 3D printed?

    • Tom
      Tom Ай бұрын

      Do you or anyone you know has "little action figure" of themselves?

  • Gigantor
    Gigantor Ай бұрын

    Just got the MBP M2 and it is insane. Love the Mac Mini too! Great review as always!

  • 0072GLDNFNGR
    0072GLDNFNGR Ай бұрын +7

    Definitely appreciate the review! You mentioned GPU and I’m looking to get into Photoshop and video animation in the near future. I won’t be tackling any extremely huge projects as I’ll be learning but obvi the more I learn the more I’ll do. Trying to decide if I should just skip this and get the Studio or would this do for a while. That said, how do you think the GPU on this holds up in the aforementioned scenario?

  • Matthias Maiwald
    Matthias Maiwald Ай бұрын +4

    I have had quite good experience over the years with Dell monitors on Macs, specifically the U (ultrasharp) line. I am currently running one Dell U2717 and one U2414 on a 2014 Mac Mini each, and I am quite happy. I will upgrade one of the Mac Minis to the 2023 M2 Pro Mac Mini.

  • Sylvester Afaha
    Sylvester Afaha 2 ай бұрын +479

    It's absolutely insane at a really good price.

    • Daniel Story
      Daniel Story Ай бұрын

      8GB of ram is not enough for the types of workloads can do on this mac - it will essentially be a bottleneck. The 256GB SSD is insultingly slow. Technically, the price of this is $1000 - to get functional ram and storage. The $600 price tag is almost a marketing gimmick

    • Alex D
      Alex D Ай бұрын

      The only downside is that you can’t expand the memory and the storage…

    • Ben Angel
      Ben Angel Ай бұрын

      Nothing Apple is 'a really good price' 😅

    • AeroHydra
      AeroHydra 2 ай бұрын +2

      @twoc The Entry Level Mac Mini M2 isn't supposed to be used for intensive tasks, it's a day-to-day entry level machine meant to be used for basic computing/web/productivity work, hence Apple's decision to price the base model low and make higher margins on the upgrades. 8 GB is plenty on MacOS due to being more streamlined than Windows and having better memory management, especially if this is just a computer you use for writing documents or Excel sheets or something.
      By contrast, the M2 Pro products come with 16 GB ram by default and M2 Max products come with 32 GB. Apple believes the amount of RAM needed for each SOC they produce is this amount (8 GB = basic computing/productivity, 16 GB = more intense workloads/development/media, 32 GB = heavy workloads) and as such they "optimize" for the common case. Note that the "double price" Mac Mini with 16/512 is actually a M2 PRO mac mini, and also comes with a hefty boost in CPU and GPU performance.
      As for storage, you can always buy an external SSD. New Macs all have Thunderbolt 4 so the performance of external SSDs are essentially identical to an internal one.

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      zongchang bao 2 ай бұрын

  • T C
    T C Ай бұрын +2

    The Mac Mini has been the biggest sleeper in Apple's lineup for a while, great to see them continue to invest in updates to it and I'll keep recommending it to family as well who like using Mac OS, but aren't doing the kind of work requiring a $2,000 Macbook.

    • M3MYS3LF1979
      M3MYS3LF1979 Ай бұрын

      Exactly! Gave my 2014 mini With an upgraded 1TB SSD to my mom when her display went out on a 7-year-old MBP. Still runs like a champ

  • SneakerPhetish
    SneakerPhetish Ай бұрын +2

    This man’s ability to make incredibly technical & complex subjects easily digestible without diluting the excitement of the products he’s reviewing makes him an absolute GEM of a creator. A once in a lifetime talent. Salute, Marques. 🫡

  • Juan S
    Juan S Ай бұрын +6

    I'm still using my Mac mini M1 base model and it runs smoothly. I recommend the model I have for students or home use. The only complaint is the few ports, but most of my stuff is wireless now so I just end up using 1 of the thunderbolts and 1 of the usb ports for my camera.

    • TheGlenGarrys
      TheGlenGarrys Ай бұрын +1

      Same here. I got my M1 Mini back when they first came out and it still handles everything I throw at it with ease. Supposedly it has a cooling fan inside but I’ve never once heard it running 😂

  • Illuminati Silver
    Illuminati Silver Ай бұрын

    Great info presented at a nice calming steady pace, highlighting not just the features and benefits but also which options in the range are the best value for money. One of the best presentations we have come across for a long time.

  • Robert Curzon
    Robert Curzon Ай бұрын +4

    Your reviews are my favorites, and there are SO many to choose from. Your presentation is honest, thorough, clearly spoken and easy to listen to. I have a 2016 MB Pro and seldom use it - no need to upgrade. I have a top tier iMac with 40 gigs of RAM. I am a Realtor and photographer and need a great screen, hence the Macs. Mac mini looks great, but I'd love more than a 27" screen with hi-res and great color. 5K for the Apple 32" and 1K for the stand would be great, but . . . that's a lot of money. Thanks for another great review!

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  • Yanooki
    Yanooki Ай бұрын +11

    I love how this video addresses different points of views in terms of its users, It dosen't just talk about exporting or importing videos as a creator. + Marques if your reading this man you've really inspired me to push myself and try to make the best youtube videos I can. Keep it up bro!

    • SpreadLove
      SpreadLove Ай бұрын

      Yes, excellent video by Marques

    • NewYearBetterDays
      NewYearBetterDays Ай бұрын +1

      That's exactly what I was thinking bro, its literally the worst when a review just talks about "importing and exporting films" instead of users in general

  • ThorZ
    ThorZ Ай бұрын +397

    Another shockingly concise and to the point review man, thank you for continuing to improve the channel with good and useful content every single day, just love it ❤️

  • Dixit Patel
    Dixit Patel Ай бұрын +2

    Really love the way you discussed how to think about the line up and navigating from what you might have today, and which option you choose to upgrade to. Personally I don’t have a great screen set up as I have old iMac so I think I’m going to go to the laptop route. 🙏🏾

  • JBerrios
    JBerrios Ай бұрын

    Almost a whole year after I purchased my Mac Studio on pre-order day last year and hearing rumors about Mac Studio possibly not being a supported computer anymore by Apple. This Mac Mini is 🔥for the price and small form factor compared to the Mac Studio as well.

  • Here's Mo
    Here's Mo Ай бұрын +2

    If this is the entry level mac mini, I can't wait to see whats to come with the mac pro... I think my current video editing rig can go home as a beefy gaming rig and the mac mini will be the new office computer.

  • Norman Mackay
    Norman Mackay 19 күн бұрын +1

    A most excellent revue.. I have an iMac M1 and have been a little disappointed with it.. more to do with the smaller screen size. I've previously had four 27" Intel Macs and loved the screen size. I've been with Apple since 1991, Mac OS 6.0. I was sorry to see the newer M1 iMac's with a smaller 24" screen. This new Mac mini with the M2 chip looks good, and you can buy whatever monitor size you want. An excellent revue from someone who knows there Apples.. My old favourite was the Apple Cube.. should have kept it..

  • César S. Falcão
    César S. Falcão Ай бұрын +13

    My last Mac was a 5th gen i5 MacMini and I'm definitely buying a M2 model, insane deal.

  • iVideoGameBoss
    iVideoGameBoss 2 ай бұрын +378

    I don't know how MKBHD does it, but his videos are never boring. He knows exactly what I want to hear and exactly how to say it. Pure genius!

    • Mark Anthony Li
      Mark Anthony Li Ай бұрын

      He's good at explaining everything in details and analyzing what's good and not so good for the customers.

    • Gideon Kok
      Gideon Kok Ай бұрын

      @Juce Also the thing about the limitations is what make Apple, Apple. never really competing with others rather outdoing others. e.g the recent A.O.D, It might have seems like they were wrong for not having a A.O.D like android at first, but yet they still managed to make a screen use 1Hz refresh rate to show all that information, which is an incredible accomplishment whether we like it/ know it or not. yet they had to listen to users and see the battery drain and do better, because they are Apple and the demands of a perfect phone outweighs innovation.
      I long to see such innovation with android devices like 10 years ago. only thing we get nowadays are camera bumps in res and yes we can say form factor changes are innovative, but even there, copies are popping up everywhere....

  • Cambojambo
    Cambojambo Ай бұрын +3

    Dude, thanks for the sustainability notes! I love following tech, but find sometimes balancing my interest in the space with the business always pushing for a new phone every year leaves a weird taste in my mouth

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  • Nezby
    Nezby Ай бұрын +22

    Imagine if apple made a motherboard capable of having two M2 ULTRAs and idk like a whole ass thing where you could use it as a server and it'd have a modified debian that you could install on it and use it as a server I'll just say it if they tried they'd turn into the biggest server provider with those incredible power usages these chips have damn.

  • TheHoodGuru
    TheHoodGuru Ай бұрын +3

    I got 2 of these. I got the M1 a bunch of months ago when Costco had a sale, and now just got an M2 with another Costco sale. They are definitely the fasted CPUs in my house and I've had a few gaming PCs between me and my son. I always buy a USB Type C SanDisk SSD for extra storage. I swing my Photos and some larger apps to that storage to keep the main OS drive at max space. And with a nice 2K or 1440 or more monitor, you can beat these.

  • Eilir Hughes
    Eilir Hughes Ай бұрын

    I am always impressed with your analyses and recommendations. They get to the point and have sensible justification. Keep it up. Many thanks.

  • m
    m Ай бұрын +2

    I love this Mac mini! I already have an external keyboard and mouse for my 2017 MacBook Pro (which is aging significantly). If I got this plus a monitor, I would have a way faster computer and then I could turn my iPad into my “laptop” if I need a portable setup. I’m glad Apple has decided to revamp the Mac mini because it’s actually a sensible option.

  • Peter Conley
    Peter Conley Ай бұрын +234

    I’ve never daily driven a Mac, but this Mac mini is really enticing. It actually seems like a good value proposition from Apple.

    • Daniel
      Daniel Ай бұрын

      @catboy integrated graphics you mean?
      Look fam, up there somewhere I put my 3600 next to the m2. Sure the m2 is quite abit better. But not so much that you'd have to go down on your knees for.

    • Daniel
      Daniel Ай бұрын

      @catboy what good is a processor, when everything else is lacking

    • catboy
      catboy Ай бұрын

      How is that “quite a lot” for a $600 computer with one of the most power processors on the market? You clearly don’t know the impact this Mac Mini has, when a PC that is equivalent in processing & graphics performance is easily $1,000 more.

    • catboy
      catboy Ай бұрын

      And do you know how much you have to spend on an AMD processor with an integrated processor is in order to match the M2?

    • Andreas Steinhart
      Andreas Steinhart Ай бұрын +1

      Even the M1 model was great value.. 100USD off is crazy. You could probably even sell it for minimal loss even if you don't want to use Mac OS after all.

  • LMacNeill
    LMacNeill Ай бұрын +3

    I had a Late-2014 Intel Mac Mini that I used for work for many years, and a couple of months after the M1 Mac Mini came out I upgraded. I still have it, of course - use it every day. And back then for $699 it was the best bang for the buck, computing-wise. (Although I did upgrade the RAM from 8GB to 16BB, so I paid $899 for mine). Now at $599 with an even *better* CPU? It's even *MORE* of a bang for the buck! I might upgrade just because I can get 10Gb Ethernet for $100. Sure would be nice to be able to talk to my NAS at 10Gb instead of 1Gb.

  • Sean TwentyFour
    Sean TwentyFour Ай бұрын +4

    I just had to comment - I bought a Mac Mini as a refurbished in 2012. It was actually a 2011 model which hasn't had support since 2017. It's the only computer I own. You've convinced me to finally go to the M2 soon. I just don't know how to transfer the old, out-dated files and programs from my old 2011 mini to the new one (when I get it). Great review.

  • pmi
    pmi Ай бұрын +20

    It looks like a very interesting offer . If you expand Mac mini’s SSD storage a lot pricier unfortunately.

    • crfyi
      crfyi 26 күн бұрын

      @Cameron Bosch Yeah, cost vs performance fallacy again.

    • Cameron Bosch
      Cameron Bosch Ай бұрын

      @crfyi I would upgrade the RAM to 16 GB and storage to at the minimum 512 GB (to avoid the single NAND issue on the base models). SD card requires a dongle.

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    • crfyi
      crfyi Ай бұрын +4

      I think a smarter option would be to use the SD port for additional storage

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  • CodeBecause.
    CodeBecause. Ай бұрын

    makes a setup look so clean! What a powerful little machine!

  • Syed Basil Javed
    Syed Basil Javed Ай бұрын +2

    I think that the higher refresh rate for displays is also great, but unfortunately, that’s only for M2 pro.

  • David
    David 2 ай бұрын +657

    4:43 MKBHD’s performance per dollar ‘dumb Apple chart’ is priceless 😂

    • Micheal Carr
      Micheal Carr Ай бұрын +8

      I was sold as soon as I saw how much higher that line was

    • Benjamin Curtis
      Benjamin Curtis Ай бұрын +26

      "It's better. The line is higher." LOL

    • BigBradWorld
      BigBradWorld Ай бұрын +10

      “Its higher!” 😂😂

    • Techi Buzz
      Techi Buzz Ай бұрын +57

      It is literally price-less lmao

  • Pwnograffik
    Pwnograffik Ай бұрын +2

    I still got a late 2012 Mac Mini i7 being used as a Jellyfin/Plex/Kavita server with ~65TB of content. Upgraded the ram from 4GB to 16GB and no issues to speak of in the 10+ years that I've had it. I'm glad to hear that the base product still offers so much value but the lack of DIY upgrades is a bummer. Two steps forward one step back is the Apple way.

  • Doug Royce
    Doug Royce Ай бұрын +3

    Can’t wait to get one! I’ve never had a Mac computer. The mini fits what I need. That price point is very attractive!

    • Music4Life
      Music4Life Ай бұрын

      You’ll love it, my old 2013 mini with i7 processor 16gig ram is still performing like new.

  • CartilageHead
    CartilageHead Ай бұрын

    It would be great to see a deep dive that compares two possible buys for an “average” user: 14” MacBook Pro for $2k-2,500 vs M2 Pro Mini + MacBook Air or iPad for similar total expenditure.

  • Bandisa Masilela
    Bandisa Masilela Ай бұрын +1

    You speaking more about normal users and actually explicitly making recommendations for students and so forth, it adds the value that I have been feeling like most reviewers lack, and what you sometimes also lack lately.
    Like we get it, you work with 8k and staff so obviously things like that should impress you, but the percentage of your viewers who care about that, even understands or can even watch it in their own device, it is so small that at no point should it ever become the main focus of your video.
    I truly appreciate this balanced review, and it has been a minute since I got this feeling.
    Lol funny part is that I am a software engineer intern at a FAANG company, so personally I do understand the very technical aspects and so forth, but as a long time subscriber, I think your value proposal is mainly in your balanced review, and not in catering for a niché. That's just my take.

  • Bob waldrop
    Bob waldrop Ай бұрын

    One of the best out there when you do these reviews and providing “ideas” and “options”. Appreciate the hard work.

  • Kidynamo123
    Kidynamo123 Ай бұрын +92

    My base model M1 Pro MBP 14” is honestly so ridiculously good for my workflow as a data scientist and developer, even though it’s technically a binned-down SKU at only 8 cores. I’m really impressed with how much Apple improved the architecture on the pro end for what would normally be a very incremental upgrade. It makes me excited for what’s to come in the third generation, which may be enough of a gap to justify an upgrade from M1 Pro, particularly if the rumors about a 3nm manufacturing process are true

  • R XYZ
    R XYZ Ай бұрын

    One thing that came to my mind instantly is that the base Mini is a very good deal if u have a gaming Windows PC but want to work on a Mac. The quality monitor(s) are already there. It also uses so little power it can be a home server at the same time - buy the version with more ram, plug in an external drive if you need it, install a Linux VM, boom done

  • Rowbear
    Rowbear Ай бұрын

    This will be killer for offices and schools at that price point. Dell SFF has dominated the corporate office space scene. That might change with how much more powerful the base mac mini is for the same price.

  • Frederik H.
    Frederik H. Ай бұрын

    Man, I loved your "fastest Mac Mini in the world"-project back in the days. This was one of my favorites!

  • Gavin Grady
    Gavin Grady Ай бұрын +1

    I know these are pretty great, along with the new Macbook Pro M2 max, but like you were saying about desktops, i'd love to be able to have a workspace where my monitor and mini would live, and if i bring my macbook to it, all performance is connected and boosted.

  • Afotey Annum (Per Annum Media)
    Afotey Annum (Per Annum Media) 2 ай бұрын +150

    It's honestly insane how powerful these machines are. I've been using an 8GB M1 for a long while now for video editing, and I haven't had to create any proxies at all for anything. Not my 5k 422 10 bit 400Mbps footage, not my multicam videos, nothing.
    I'm for sure going to upgrade when the Ultra comes out, but for now, I'm pretty good.
    Really surprised by how much power these things pack TBH

    • Afotey Annum (Per Annum Media)
      Afotey Annum (Per Annum Media) Ай бұрын

      @ThinLineMedia true, but I don't do any of that, so that's irrelevant.
      As it stands, the 8GB M1 Mac Mini is utterly amazing for my needs. Insane performance, WAAAAAAAAAY better than my higher speced Intel Mac. Not even close.

    • Afotey Annum (Per Annum Media)
      Afotey Annum (Per Annum Media) Ай бұрын

      @Night the moon Good thing none of my work requires any of that then lol

    • ThinLineMedia
      ThinLineMedia Ай бұрын +2

      It is not pure performance. It is a matter of codec encoding support. If you throw at it a codec that it doesn't support the performance will go out the window. That is why these machines don't perform well in 3D programs

    • LtdJorge
      LtdJorge Ай бұрын +1

      @Siam Hossain in EFFICIENCY, learn to read before commenting, please.

    • Night the moon
      Night the moon Ай бұрын +2

      @Vicinity yeah all companies do it, but when actual influencers like mkbhd do it, it's just lying, or he's clueless about the market

    HAUGE CREATIVE Ай бұрын +7

    Always love your reviews, Marques! I'm one of those still working on an intel Mac (21.5", 2019, 1tb, 32gb ram) and am thinking about an upgrade. My side hustle is video editing, and I'm a FCP enthusiast. I was thinking about upgrading to the Mac Studio, but now I'm not sure after watching your review of the mini. What's the diff between those two, and for video editing, which would you recommend?

    • Daniel Story
      Daniel Story Ай бұрын +2

      Until the Mac studio is refreshed, the Mac mini is a much better choice. M2 pro Mac mini sounds like a good choice for you: it comes with 16GB of ram as the minimum option, which Apple charges an extra $200 for on the base model (and is essentially a requirement in 2023). It also comes with the 512GB ssd. the 256GB ssd in the base model is extremely slow, it’s another $200 in the base model to upgrade to 512.

  • Misterfilmguy
    Misterfilmguy Ай бұрын

    These Apple silicon chips are still blowing my mind in the performance per dollar ratio. I'm a photographer and my 2020 M1 with 16GB RAM is still blowing through my workload at an amazing pace for the price, and I'm sure this new Mac Mini would too.

  • Joey Chavez
    Joey Chavez 15 күн бұрын

    I've had the M1 mini with 16gb ram and 1tb ssd for maybe a year now which i don't think is a long time at all but i really want the m2 pro...i was always hoping that apple would continue to pack more power into the mac mini and they totally are. i want one so bad.

  • Mark Nosrati
    Mark Nosrati Ай бұрын +7

    I have been waiting for the Mac "Mini" Studio to come out with the M2 Ultra mainly cause I want to future-proof myself. But now I'm thinking maybe this M2 Mac Mini is more than enough. The Mac Mini M2 fully loaded for me is $2600 vs the Mac Studio fully loaded was like $6700. I'm having a hard time justifying the $4100 difference. Why does the Mac Studio cost so much?

    • Andrei Rachko
      Andrei Rachko Ай бұрын +2

      Beefier power supply, much more capable cooling, more ports, larger body. I still don’t think the Studio is $4,100 better than Mini, but there are reasons for it to cost at least $1,500 more.

    A HOBO IN TEXAS Ай бұрын

    Love the camera shake shots. I've been using a gimbal but I love the camera shake. Theirs something aesthetic about them

  • Alex OatRunner
    Alex OatRunner Ай бұрын +91

    Love how you mentioned compile times as a use case! It can make such a workflow difference (probably even more than rendering) if the chip is able to render a new live view immediately. 4:30

  • GasMY
    GasMY Ай бұрын

    I have the M1 version of it. It’s just awesome. Never ever failed, i use it for graphic design, light video work and music production.

  • Phil D. Cote
    Phil D. Cote Ай бұрын +2

    Very through and thoughtful Mac Mini M2 review. Thanks for the great work, MKBHD! :)

  • Dwayne Pedals
    Dwayne Pedals  Ай бұрын +1

    Nice! I just purchased the M2 Pro 12 core with 32GB RAM & 1TB SSD. I'm so psyched to edit on this machine. I have been using my Late 2012 iMac i7 Intel for 9 years now and I'm soooooo looking forward to more power and smooth sailing across my 4k footage.

  • Bendik Arbogast
    Bendik Arbogast Ай бұрын +2

    Hey, just wanted to tell you that Geekbench is not very representative of cross architecture performance between x86 and ARM (even when not accounting for major OS and driver differences). Since those are two different instruction sets there are certain applications where one outperforms the other only due to being more specialized for a particular use case. Sometimes having a certain specialized instruction is an advantage if it fits the current work load. On the other hand being less specialized reduces overall complexity and hence can be advantageous for simple operations. So technically it is impossible for an ideal synthetic benchmark to exist between those two platforms. In my opinion Geekbench has a tendency to favor ARM systems over x86 which doesn't necessarily reflect in other benchmarks or real performance. I'm not trying to discredit the insane performance of Apple ARM here, but Geekbench overexaggerates this difference. Modern x86 mobile processors especially from AMD offer very similar performance if not higher in some cases (although this is not easy to compare). Hence it would be best to compare those machines in more real world use cases against each other since this directly reflects how the actual machine will perform for the user.

    • Sol Invictus
      Sol Invictus Ай бұрын

      I've seen some people render an adobe video, or do big compiles and i thought that was an interesting way to test the differences and give it a "score". Although yet again that reduces the test to those specific functions

  • NoForum
    NoForum Ай бұрын +3

    Thanks for the concise review touching on the right things for people who aren't necessarily (recovered) gaming addicts or plasma flow calculation professionals.

  • The Tea Podcast
    The Tea Podcast Ай бұрын +131

    Still killing it with my 2020 MacBook Air M1. It's still the best laptop/computer I have ever owned and is still blowing my mind to this day. I can't imagine having anything faster, and yet, here we are. Love your content MKBHD!

    • VenomOne Corp.
      VenomOne Corp. Ай бұрын

      @46I37 Same experience, feels like a sub-standard product, even lags many a times just with a browser window, worse touch-ID than 10 years old Android phones, got its motherboard changed yet nothing changed and colleagues having it have same experience. Apple is good but it's far far away from perfect, and I also don't like its software which is counter-productive just to be quirky and different than windows, to prevent people from switching so easily out of its ecosystem.
      Ironic that when I clicked edit on this comment, it lagged, lol.

    • middleman
      middleman Ай бұрын +2

      @46I37 sounds like you have a defective machine then.

    • 46I37
      46I37 Ай бұрын

      @Theflyingdog No. My wifes previous computer was a 27" 2015 imac with core i5/512G HDD/16G RAM, the motherboard slowly died with freezes. She wanted a 27" imac to replace it, but Apple don't make them anymore, thus She went a M1 macbook and the advice was 8G RAM was enough because the M1 was more efficient in memory use and swaps to the HDD were super fast. But it has been a miserable computer. Her 7 year old i5 was a better experience. eg. Start recording with a Rode video mic and there are jitters and stutters. Browser hangs for no reason. UI become unresponsive. My daily driver is a Win10 Dell XPS, and I don't get any of the issues She has.

    • 95M Miata
      95M Miata  Ай бұрын

      @46I37 I think apple has some quality control issues. My M1 Air was quicker than my M1 Pro 16” I got.

    • Rama Gakii
      Rama Gakii Ай бұрын

      @TreeLeaf Then not all Macs are good

  • bugmanhk
    bugmanhk Ай бұрын +3

    This is great to hear from you. I have away liked the the mac mini and always thought they should have done more with it. I have had 3 previously. Held off from buying the new ones for now. and you can hookit up with a great non mac monitor. currently have a 27" iMac and not impressed with it. Line down the screen after 28 montths and now keeps cchuting down for no reason....

  • cruelpeanutbutter
    cruelpeanutbutter Ай бұрын

    It’s hard to image how fast these m2 pro’s are, I’m still using base model m1 macbook air for my graphic design studies and have’t had any problems with it’s performance

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  • Andreas Steinhart
    Andreas Steinhart Ай бұрын

    Thanks for great review. The worlds fastest Mac mini is one the earliest videos of your I remember. So already before you mentioned it I had memories of that. :) The new M2 base Mac Mini is clearly one of the best tech deals imo.

  • Hakim A.
    Hakim A. Ай бұрын +12

    How about the SSD speed on the base model (256Gb) ?
    It seems to be a problematic point on this Mac mini as presented on Max Tech's review.
    Thanks for the nice video as usual. Cheers from France 👍

  • Paul Brooks
    Paul Brooks Ай бұрын +7

    Great review and I'm glad you pointed out sustainability, as this is more important to us all in the long run than anything else.
    The main benefit of an external display is choice and longevity. Monitors often last through multiple upgrade cycles, and display features have plateaued enough for everyday, non-HDR use-cases that there's little reason to buy a device with an integrated display (unless portability is a hard requirement). Having no display also makes future upgrades more affordable (not to mention better serviceability since the display can be replaced or repaired instantly, to keep people working).
    To a certain extent, the Mini invalidates many laptop purchases, the iMac's existence, and even the Studio for many users. This is a good thing, because every company should produce products that are so good they disrupt their own ecosystem.

  • iKandy
    iKandy Ай бұрын +76

    This was really helpful! Thank you for sharing your thoughts. As other have stated in the comments, showing recommended screens and using iPads as screen would be a great video. I’m looking to use my iPad Pro 11inch as a screen with keyboard, Magic Mouse and pencil. Would love to see a walkthrough of that setup for someone working from home.

  • Jen Media
    Jen Media Ай бұрын

    PERFECT AND clearly said, Well done. I got an M1 Max refurb for the time being and will wait for the m3 if I ever do need to upgrade in the future .saved myself over £1000

  • Milind Dinesh
    Milind Dinesh Ай бұрын

    I reached that point where i'm more interested in seeing the intro the team has come up for the video than the video itself . That being said , the video is also dope as usual . Also liking the mini marques hehe

  • Apple Kid
    Apple Kid Ай бұрын

    Nice review. You always do cool reviews man. The only gripe I have is that I heard that Apple held back on soldering their ssds so that the data rate does not go as fast as it could.

  • Colin Leask
    Colin Leask Ай бұрын +4

    Can’t wait to see the M2 Studio and what that can do.

  • Mini Neji
    Mini Neji 27 күн бұрын

    I love the SFF of the mac mini, it's honestly a perfect computer hardware wise. Not a macOs fan but its genuinely the way to go for budget performance.

  • TJ_Fox25
    TJ_Fox25 2 ай бұрын +160

    Excellent video as always. I had just looked at these and was wondering about them, so I’m glad you gave us the rundown on it.

    • herman stokbrood
      herman stokbrood Ай бұрын +1

      @TJ_Fox25 Yeah at this price level it is just an Apple thing.

    • TJ_Fox25
      TJ_Fox25 Ай бұрын

      @herman stokbrood that’s not just an Apple thing. If it is something you really need as opposed to just wanting, then the price will not matter as much.

    • herman stokbrood
      herman stokbrood Ай бұрын +1

      @TJ_Fox25 Sure Apple let you choose anything. For you know it the price has doubled or even trippled.

    • TJ_Fox25
      TJ_Fox25 2 ай бұрын +4

      @Vulcānus those are options that you can select yourself. It’s on the Apple Store. My main concern was baseline performance so that I could determine my own ram and storage needs from there. I’m sure that’s why he didn’t dive into those, because they are subjective to the individual needs of each person.

    • Vulcānus
      Vulcānus 2 ай бұрын

      disappointed he didn't mention storage or ram configurations

  • Michael McCullough
    Michael McCullough Ай бұрын +2

    Great video. Love how you explain things in detail.

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  • John Eriksson
    John Eriksson 12 күн бұрын

    Nice to see the Mac mini going back to its roots. The affordable machine. Me like.

  • Matthew Rosenblatt
    Matthew Rosenblatt Ай бұрын +3

    I bought a Mac Studio a few months back and it's been outstanding. I wonder how this M2 Pro Mac Mini holds up to the current baseline Mac Studio?

    • Natrist2
      Natrist2 Ай бұрын

      The Mac Mini is faster and better designed.

  • Top G Syndicate
    Top G Syndicate Ай бұрын +4

    Which would you guys recommend for faster editing time (if money isn't an issue) - fully boosted Mac Mini or fully boosted 14" MacBook Pro? If the MacBook is faster then it’s a no brainer for me since it’s portable. But I’m willing to sacrifice portability for faster editing times. Just don’t wanna go over $4k.

  • The Qurator
    The Qurator Ай бұрын

    The Garage became Apple Park in the most poetic way. Apple's return to using it's own Silicon is probably the smoothest "slipstream overtake" of all time. A beautiful homecoming.

  • Jesse Self
    Jesse Self 2 ай бұрын +165

    Ok, now we need a video on the best $600 display options for the Mac Mini. 😊

    • Brad Haines
      Brad Haines 2 ай бұрын

      @LadyEmily i was saying anything past 120hz, because i love the step from 60 to 120, thats huge, but anything past that is almost meaningless

    • LadyEmily
      LadyEmily 2 ай бұрын

      @Brad Haines 120hz isn't only for gaming. It's a game changer for scrolling, and really anything involving motion.

    • Michael Russ
      Michael Russ 2 ай бұрын

      @RoastBeefSandwich have had a fair bit of trouble pairing Apple silicon laptops with my cell S2722qc - ended up sending it back and getting an LG, no issues so far

    • Jarius Spear
      Jarius Spear 2 ай бұрын

      The LG ultrafine 4k display

    • Blakostructr
      Blakostructr 2 ай бұрын +2

      LG C2 4K OLED 42" is probably the best option currently, but a little more than that price. You might think it's big for a monitor but it's actually the perfect size, sitting 2.5ft away you can't see pixels and feels like an IMAX theater when watching movies since the FOV is so big

    GLO-TUBE Ай бұрын +3

    Nice to know I'll have something great to upgrade to when my 2017 iMac finally starts showing its age. (Guessing later this year when it likely won't be supported by the new MacOS... so dumb, should be at least one more year. Hope I'm wrong.)
    Also, I'm probably gonna hold out until Apple gets a little more serious about 120hz, both in their software and large displays. By then I think I'll feel like I've had a good enough run with my trusty iMac... meh, I could probably run this thing another 4 years ha.
    EDIT: Heck, if I make 4 more years with this iMac (say about Dec 31st 2026), I may as well push it to summer 2027 so I can say I've used it a full decade! Then the upgrade I go with will be that much sweeter! BTW, its specced out, so it won't be quite as painful as trying to run some slow base model 2014 iMac through to 2024 would be.
    Yes... I'm actually kind of excited now to see how long this guy can hold out. Apple would make it A LOT easier if they would give me just one more major update this fall (not just security stuff).

  • Corlissmedia2.0
    Corlissmedia2.0 Ай бұрын

    I received my Mac mini yesterday afternoon. It's SUPER QUIET. Which is the main thing I wanted in a new Mac (of some kind). Everything was going on smashingly at first. Then I did a huge update that was needed. After that, my old wireless / bluetooth Apple Mouse would no longer work. Thanking I have more than one keyboard/mouse combo in my office. I still can't get the blue-tooth adapter to work with the mouse it came with, but I'll keep trying. Thank You for this video. My new Mac mini cost about the same as my 2006 Mac Pro. It's so SNAPPY! I've got a couple of external G-Drives plugged into it, and they're doing FANTASTICALLY. Ventura (the most current version, I gather), is very clean, and very very nice. Thanks for the recommendation. Your video showed me the way!

  • Eddie T
    Eddie T 28 күн бұрын

    I am going to get the base 599 one as my desktop replacement. I already have a decent 32 inch monitor that I will continue to use. I recently got a ps5 so no need for my desktop for gaming anymore lol. I feel like this is all I ever will need in a computer.

  • Michael Davidson
    Michael Davidson Ай бұрын

    I had an old Mac mini from 2009, in early 2022 I bought a 2020 iMac (intel) with the 27” 5K display. I really wanted to get a M1 iMac but apple discontinued the 27” so I went with the older intel model. I’m pretty happy with it though just a few months after buying it I had to get the fan replaced under warranty.

  • David C
    David C Ай бұрын +4

    I wish you’d talk about the TBW on Apple Silicon SSDs. My M1 MBA had 70 TB written in 2 months. I figured it was an anomaly so I bought an M2 MBA, and it already has 7 TB written in 1 week. How long will these drives last?

    • Cameron Bosch
      Cameron Bosch Ай бұрын

      Oh, and activation lock.

    • Cameron Bosch
      Cameron Bosch Ай бұрын

      I agree. They should make the drives removable (even if it is proprietary like the Mac Pro) and make 16 GB of RAM standard. I mean, I cannot justify any machine with a soldered SSD.

    • Melih
      Melih Ай бұрын +3

      I wish more KZcliprs would make everyone aware of this. The Mac Mini for 600 dollars sounds nice but it still has an SSD that you cannot change over time. These NAND dies will eventually die and hearing about the TBW is just insane. Are these KZcliprs just blind to this ??

    • Sol Ise
      Sol Ise Ай бұрын +3

      That’s nuts lol, I’m guessing they swap too aggressively with 8GB of ram?

  • Calvin
    Calvin 2 ай бұрын +50

    Love the review as always! The Mac Mini seems like the solid move for me. I have a intel core i5 MacBook Air that gets cooked on basic things. I already have the monitor since I'm on ps5 so this would be a perfect upgrade for the price

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    • Simon Maduxx
      Simon Maduxx 2 ай бұрын +1

      Was just talking about this with my friend today. Monitors especially for work are in a very weird place where there is barely any middle ground at all. It's either you buy something garbage with a limited color space or you got to shell out a couple of thousand.

    • Calvin
      Calvin 2 ай бұрын

      @Heri Yep

    • q u a c c
      q u a c c 2 ай бұрын +7

      @Heri he has a ps5...

    • Heri
      Heri 2 ай бұрын +1

      Can you game tho

  • Levi Hardin
    Levi Hardin Ай бұрын +3

    Absolutely love my M1 Mac mini with upgraded 16gb RAM !

  • Doctor Gears
    Doctor Gears Ай бұрын +1

    those m2 mac minis are going to be amazing value if you can get them certified refurbished, as well.

  • Em
    Em Ай бұрын +4

    What non-apple monitor would work well with the M2 mac mini pro? I am a graphic and UI/UX designer. Colour calibrated one is very important.

  • wcg66
    wcg66 Ай бұрын +1

    I’m tempted to go fora M2 Pro even though I’ve been happy with my M1 mini. I’d spec it out a bit and be done with it for years. Really, for most home users, it’s more than enough.

    • Julien
      Julien Ай бұрын

      Wait for at least 3nm