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Food Theory: This TikTok Drink is the Best WORST Idea Ever! (BORG)


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  • Eloise Chisholm
    Eloise Chisholm 21 сағат бұрын +5285

    Matpat is great at keeping his viewers safe and entertained while telling dad jokes in the process

    • Kacper P
      Kacper P 8 сағат бұрын

      That's good for him

    • Eloise Chisholm
      Eloise Chisholm 8 сағат бұрын

      @Andrew mouzakitis the mane part was the dad joke

    • Mike Tracker
      Mike Tracker 11 сағат бұрын

      😊😊 pp😊

    • Murk VR
      Murk VR 11 сағат бұрын

      So true🧐

    • GlitchGames
      GlitchGames 11 сағат бұрын

      He is a dad.😊

  • Whorknee
    Whorknee 17 сағат бұрын +990

    honestly just using a non-caffinated drink mix and a smaller container would fix this entirely. im not exactly a partygoer but i can see the good intent behind it to keep yourself safe

    • Chris Spencer
      Chris Spencer 4 сағат бұрын

      How is a 15 year old legally. Intoxicated

    • King of the Degenerates
      King of the Degenerates 4 сағат бұрын

      @Max Petersen is staying hydrated worth breaking your liver

    • Darkopolypse98
      Darkopolypse98 7 сағат бұрын

      Gallons a bit much

    • Darkopolypse98
      Darkopolypse98 7 сағат бұрын

      Whatever happened to the people with big gulp cups full of straight vodka? Lol

    • Stephen
      Stephen 7 сағат бұрын

      Everyone carries water bottles these days - they can just use one of those instead of a gallon. And cut back on the caffeine. You can get recipes for mixed drinks and just water them down a bit, and enjoy them over a 4 hour party.
      Also, those liquid flavor things need a caffeine warning. “Back in my day” we just used koolaid packages. Or skipped all that effort and bought some Maddog 20/20 and regretted either decision by the morning.

  • Kit Kleinow
    Kit Kleinow 12 сағат бұрын +157

    Thank you Matt from the bottom of my heart and soul for talking about how often people are getting their drinks spiked. More people need to be talking about how bad it's getting and how life altering it can be. Seriously thank you

  • Ryan Anderson
    Ryan Anderson 13 сағат бұрын +142

    When I was in college my friends and I made your borg with caffeine-free kool aid because a very nice nurse on campus had told us the dangers of caffeine with alcohol I’m very happy that we were told this before something bad happened

    • Michael B
      Michael B 12 сағат бұрын +10

      Also, Kool-Aid is a lot cheaper.

  • Denitria Barnett
    Denitria Barnett 16 сағат бұрын +111

    That perspective of having a Borg for safety is really great, and not something I would have thought of. Because otherwise, it's essentially the simplified gen z version of hunch punch. Everyone had their own recipe, so you had no idea what you were actually drinking-just that it would give you the result you wanted 😂😂

    • washipuppy
      washipuppy 10 сағат бұрын +5

      @D S We had something called a V-Dub - Vodka and V energy drink, which was often mixed in with whatever else people had around for a shared punch.

    • D S
      D S 10 сағат бұрын +6

      It’s always cool to hear the names people had for this stuff. I always heard the term jungle juice.

  • Abygael Leblanc
    Abygael Leblanc 11 сағат бұрын +51

    Can I just say thank you? I feel like you grabbing our attention saying how dangerous is the borg, then explaning that spike drinks are a huge deal is really important. I really appreciate it that you are always trying to make the world a better place! ( One diet coke at the time! )

  • Jeromy Kraft
    Jeromy Kraft 22 сағат бұрын +2264

    you'll never be done covering stupid tik tok trends MatPat

    • Shathi Akter
      Shathi Akter 6 сағат бұрын

      v ap

    • unbsoof
      unbsoof 6 сағат бұрын


    • help me for the love of shrek
      help me for the love of shrek 9 сағат бұрын

      @Caliber the damage has been done and could transfer to other platforms 💀

    • The pikachu
      The pikachu  12 сағат бұрын

      As long as TikTok is a thing, this series will never stop like ever I could come up with a random stupid trend right now

  • Sarah S
    Sarah S 12 сағат бұрын +35

    I like the idea behind the borg; the control over your drink. I feel like once people understand just how many drinks they're putting in, they'll be able to make a smarter decision.

    • CrayfishFuture
      CrayfishFuture 5 сағат бұрын

      @Log Fila Poperonni the side effects of drinking alcohol definitely do not include making smarter decisions, so i feel like their point is that if you're preparing a massive jug of alcohol to take to a party, you likely aren't making many smart decisions.

    • Log Fila Poperonni
      Log Fila Poperonni 8 сағат бұрын

      @sugarmix what?

    • sugarmix
      sugarmix 9 сағат бұрын

      Nobody calls it liquid intelligence

  • Nester Helen
    Nester Helen 14 сағат бұрын +180

    I was thinking that too! You could literally have koolaid in that and no one would know. I would have loved to have that, helping me feel safer and more comfortable.

  • ItzOliveeditz
    ItzOliveeditz 12 сағат бұрын +12

    Let’s all just appreciate the work,editing,ideas,research and all the work mat pat and his team does just to entertain us ❤

  • BK 215
    BK 215 15 сағат бұрын +23

    It’s common at my school for a group of friends to share a borg, so it’s not just one person tackling it. Most people also use non-caffeinated flavoring.

    • CandiCraveingCloude
      CandiCraveingCloude 13 сағат бұрын +5

      And its good if the group also makes it together cause then they all know what is in it and how much is in there

  • Madeline Goettlicher
    Madeline Goettlicher 12 сағат бұрын +10

    Love the fact matpat is pointing out the safety part of it. I can’t trust any drink that wasn’t made by me or can be left open

  • WinterTech
    WinterTech 18 сағат бұрын +1698

    Matt's suggestion about the Borg Baby I'd pretty spot on. On my college campus I've seen people utilizing the smaller 1/2 gallon bottles for their Borgs instead of the traditional full gallon. Additionally I highly doubt many people utilize the full bottle of vodka for their Borgs, usually it's 1/4 a gallon vodka with 3/4 water. Additionally, I have never seen anyone use an ENTIRE bottle of Mio for their Borgs. That's wayyy too expensive for us college students to be wasting like that.

    • CageyBee
      CageyBee 4 сағат бұрын

      @Bob 🤓

    • Brian DeMille
      Brian DeMille 10 сағат бұрын +2

      750 ml bottle is only 1/5 of a gallon. That's literally why they call it a fifth

    • Ali D. Katt
      Ali D. Katt 11 сағат бұрын +1

      ​@Bob I mean in the end drinking isn't a requirement in college I guess but it is part of the experience for some people. I'm sure there's something you choose to spend money on that I would see as "not worth the expense". I mean it doesn't make any more sense drinking as an adult on a work night or wasting a day off on being hung over. Some people just think it's fun the same way someone else might see hiking or photography as fun.

    • demonheart13
      demonheart13 11 сағат бұрын +1

      Mio? No
      All about those two packets of fruit punch Kool aid and a single packet of either watermelon, cherry, or pink lemonade.

  • Ryan McKenna
    Ryan McKenna 14 сағат бұрын +10

    Mat thanks for covering this topic from such an objective point of view! I am personally a huge fan of the borg and it’s a big craze at my college (JMU) rn. The main reason we do it is because 1) it’s cheap 2) it’s an easy way to keep all your drinks in one place for the day without having to carry around a whole fifth cops can call out from a mile away or a pack of drinks where half of them are stolen and 3) it’s a conversation starter (people name their borgs crazy things and then talk to others about it). All that being said you’re entirely right about all the facts and people should drink in moderation! I groaned when I saw this pop up in my feed but thank you for a great video as always!

  • MrT3a
    MrT3a 17 сағат бұрын +9

    I was surprised by the amount of vodka in the recipe.
    Back when I was in college, we were buying one bottle par attendant. And we were drinking other alcohol beverages on top of that.
    Then I remembered, it was one bottle for the whole night, one bottle for 5-8h of drinking. We were marathoning our nights of alcoholic consumption.

  • AuthorLacey
    AuthorLacey 14 сағат бұрын +8

    I always knew since I was a little kid that I would bring my own unmarked apple juice bottle to parties. It's safe, it's fun, and it allows me to be the sober friend to take my wasted friends home haha

  • Michelle Gray
    Michelle Gray 15 сағат бұрын +10

    I’m a third year university student and have never heard of “a borg” before until clicking this video 😂 I only commute to my campus for classes and don’t drink for a mix of personal belief and medical reasons so I guess it makes sense lol. I’ve also never been to parties because ew socializing 😂😂😂 I’ll take my coffee fix, just of course at responsible levels of caffeine lol. Please stay safe everyone!

  • Alagan Balakumar
    Alagan Balakumar 14 сағат бұрын +4

    My roommates and I made these just this past weekend, we did it because taking shots by itself is hard and not fun so we did it for the taste. We used generic water enhancers that have no sugar or caffeine and because we were in a controlled environment, we poured out our borgs into glasses and paced ourselves that way. I think this way is much more efficient than a traditional borg.

  • Crystal Marie
    Crystal Marie 21 сағат бұрын +542

    LOL legit if this was a thing when I was 21 I would definitely make it at home without alcohol before going to my friends or a party. I hated being pressured to drink and this would have saved me from all that nonsense.

    • do not
      do not 20 сағат бұрын

      Here is the full clip explaining why dad left you: (Making fun of bots)

    • Amy
      Amy 20 сағат бұрын +11

      Ah some of the peple i know would spike that :( so youd still need to be careful even then- just. Yeah. I know

    • Misa Misaa
      Misa Misaa 20 сағат бұрын +33

      I never went to any of my dorm's parties 'cuz I hate not just the taste but also the smell of alcohol... Like I even avoided my roommates' house parties & just "conveniently" made plans with my friends to "go out" (read: meet at someone else & play either dnd or cards xD)

  • BPM Gaming
    BPM Gaming 12 сағат бұрын +3

    Ya know, I used to think that mixing caffeine and alcohol was just like giving yourself a bit of a boost to keep going on. Sure, I've heard you shouldn't mix the two, uppers and downers, but I didn't see much of an issue with it. After all, I've had plenty of jagerbombs and other shots that have Monster or Red Bull as the mixer. Perhaps I won't do that so much now. (Before you guys think I'm some kinda alcoholic, I don't drink often but do enjoy doing so every now and again.)

  • Yahtzee
    Yahtzee 15 сағат бұрын +3

    Hey MatPat and team, I’ve got a theory that I’m interested to see you guys cover: if you had a limited supply of water, would it be better to consume it like you normally would and be hydrated for a short time, or to ration it out so much that you dehydrate yourself?

  • jmasterlink13
    jmasterlink13 14 сағат бұрын +5

    I like watching these videos to learn new things. Didn’t think this channel would show me I’m an alcoholic 😂

  • Francisco Elizarraras
    Francisco Elizarraras 7 сағат бұрын +1

    As a college student, this was perfect. You showed the dangers of it while still understanding exactly what it was about. (:

  • Vanessa Elz
    Vanessa Elz 14 сағат бұрын +5

    The Mexican equivalent would be "Agua Loca" (crazy water).
    You take a 5-gallon water jug and fill about 3/4 of it, add the flavoring powder of your preference and complete with the cheapest alcohol you find (usually "Tonayan" which is made of sugar cane and similar to tequila, has 24% of alcohol and the bottle of 960 ml or 32.4 oz cost around 2-3 USD).
    A common drink at student parties and an easy way to get yourself drunk fast with little money.

  • Rose
    Rose 21 сағат бұрын +736

    As a college student who lives in an area with tons of fraternities, I’ve heard so many people talk about this. One of my friends said that if you didn’t make the Borg it will send you to the morgue, but if you bring your own you’re more likely to make it home.

    • CandiCraveingCloude
      CandiCraveingCloude 13 сағат бұрын

      It's a good way to remember it. Often rhymes are easy ways to remember things plus this one elicits an image in your head that clearly explains the safety in it of itself.

    • sean phillips
      sean phillips 20 сағат бұрын +7

      That's the most college thing I've ever heard

    • SquallyCoin5664
      SquallyCoin5664 20 сағат бұрын +9

      All of this is true, because it rhymes.

    • ImpDraPalMod
      ImpDraPalMod 20 сағат бұрын +4

      That is good catchphrase

  • River Bandit
    River Bandit 15 сағат бұрын +5

    I think stuff like this is what we need more of, not the borg, but this type of video. The type of video meant to inform people of the dangers & risk of something, but also sympathize for those making the mistakes & possibly seeing the benefits of it. And, entertainment plus education is always good

  • Michael B
    Michael B 13 сағат бұрын +3

    Sounds like the key is to use a non-caffeinated flavoring. Also sounds like Buena Vista Cafe has a problem with the drink they invented many years ago, the Irish coffee: very strong coffee, sugar, irish whiskey, and cream. Sooooo yummy, I'm not giving it up, no matter what Matt Pat says.

  • MER Makes
    MER Makes 13 сағат бұрын +3

    As an ex soroity girl, omg does this video hit close to home. My sorority had a special punch we made for parties that were 2 gallons of lemonade and 3 bottles of alcohol. I found this out after I had one cup of it and had to stop drinking the rest of the party and carbo-load in the corner so I didn't get hungover the next day. Although i will say I've had sisters who would make a borg and share it with each other. With four sisters drinking from the same gallon, everyone was still ok because they were all there when making it so they all new what was in it, but they also all stuck close together to keep the drink and each other safe. The Borg is the best worst idea, especially if you share it with close friends and people you trust.
    And also just got to say drugging is such a big problem when drinking. Luckily, I'm on a small campus, and I've really only heard one big story when a frat spiked all their punch, but it was also one of the reasons I never went out, much. I was too paranoid all the time and worried I'd be next. Thanks, MatPat, for keeping everybody safe!

  • Ward issolver
    Ward issolver 8 сағат бұрын +1

    Not gonna lie, it almost made me cry when Matt started reasoning that the gallon of death is almost safer to drink for some people then just happily drinking a few shots with some friends. We live in a very sad reality

  • Quentin Vazquez
    Quentin Vazquez 10 сағат бұрын

    I was honestly shocked to hear the recipe you said, because when I had seen a TikTok about it a few months ago the recipe they gave was only a cup of alcohol. And a whole bottle contains 3.17 cups so that's an insane upscale

  • Richard Denney
    Richard Denney 18 сағат бұрын +579

    Thank you for getting this information out again. It is easy to forget how absolutely dangerous caffeine mixed with alcohol is.

    • Kevin Stephenson
      Kevin Stephenson 11 сағат бұрын

      @Crazmuss if drinking alcohol with caffeine in it is the only giving your life meaning then you are living an extremely poor life.

    • CommissionerJG
      CommissionerJG 12 сағат бұрын +2

      Yeah.... Had a Rum and Coke once and I exploded..... This seems to be more about how dangerous underage drinking is

    • Crazmuss
      Crazmuss 12 сағат бұрын

      @Markus Aurelius can't help everyone

    • Crazmuss
      Crazmuss 12 сағат бұрын

      @Kevin Stephenson yea, that would be nice, if that would be possible.

  • ga kailyn
    ga kailyn 15 сағат бұрын +6

    Does alcohol affect neurodivergent ppl differently? I just got to the part about the dopamine and gaba stuff and I've found that not to be my experience. Honestly, Ive also always been curious and would love to see an episode on if we can determine "what kind of drunk you'll be." Some people are happy, fun, weepy, angry, violent drunks and I'd love to know if there's a reason behind which one you end up being. Like if ppl are genetically predisposed or something.

  • bpalmtree
    bpalmtree 8 сағат бұрын +2

    Standout video. I didn't realise it had got that bad. I feel so sad for the people who've been made victims of this. We gotta effect a societal change.

  • Erin Johnston
    Erin Johnston 9 сағат бұрын +2

    I agree that this is great for regulating your consumption and guarding against spiking, but it only works within a house party setting. No bar or club is going to allow you to bring your own massive jug of alcohol

  • Oli Dreyar
    Oli Dreyar 16 сағат бұрын +3

    I'm too old (30) to be in on this BORG stuff but until now, my little exposure to it hadn't had me aware of the caffeine being added. I actually kinda liked the idea of the BORG with those last few reasons you were bringing up. I knew that the 'standard' was a 26 (I think that's canadian for a 5th?) as far as alcohol went, but I also knew it was something that could easily adjusted. Obviously the caps on/it being your own personal drink keeps it a bit more safe from being spiked. And then, I remember always being the guy to clean up after parties... and I'd be walking around with like 3 bags of solo cups and cans and bottles completely full. All in all, I wish there was a way to drop the perceived need for heavy drinking in university party culture but this is probably my favourite iteration of it I've seen.

  • Alexander Elderhorst
    Alexander Elderhorst 11 сағат бұрын +1

    Ahh yes, electrolytes to help prevent the hangover that you will never get after liver failure. But I do get your point of it helping control how much you're actually drinking and preventing spikes, assuming you don't fill it with 90% alcohol. Definitely helped me respect the idea just a tiny bit, even if it wasn't the main intention.

  • Wiz Rad
    Wiz Rad 18 сағат бұрын +321

    I don't drink, but this sounds like it has the potential to be the best or worst idea depending on the individual making it. More water, less alcohol, no caffeine, add some flavor and/or hydration enhancers, then pace yourself, and you might have a recipe for a good time. I still wouldn't drink it, but I get it. With the right tweaks, I approve.

    • Sergio Leonardo Cornejo
      Sergio Leonardo Cornejo 10 сағат бұрын +1

      I don't drink. And I sure hope this idea doesn't change because it is natural selection in a bottle.

    • TheMeloettaful
      TheMeloettaful 12 сағат бұрын +9

      I don't drink very much myself. And when I do it's at home. But if I do these Borg things odds are it would have zero alcohol in them. Like you said it has great potential for good, but also for bad as well depending on the individual 🤷‍♀.

    • SuperSonic04
      SuperSonic04 13 сағат бұрын +1


  • NameGoesHere
    NameGoesHere 16 сағат бұрын +6

    The safety part of Borg is a really good idea I just wouldn't make it a gallon jug and put more than you should- like a safe version

  • Sally Kilby
    Sally Kilby 10 сағат бұрын +2

    I like the idea that if you don't want to drink alcohol and instead can put juice and water etc in these bottles is a good idea. But also it's a very sad idea to think that's what you have to do to save yourself from getting you're drink spiked.
    I think we could do with changing people's mindset that you CAN have fun without too much , or no alcohol when going out to parties etc it's been imbedded in our heads for generations and I think things need to change for everyones safety.

  • wired mind
    wired mind 14 сағат бұрын +3

    Here in the UK we have something called "Dragon Soop" and it sounds a lot like a four loko was. Packed with alcohol and caffeine. Tasted absolutely rancid. I have been drinking too much for ages and it genuinely made me feel worse than drinking like half a bottle of vodka in one night lol.

  • K Driscoll
    K Driscoll 10 сағат бұрын +1

    "I love my alcohol to remind me of elementary school snack time."
    Couldn't have said it better myself 😂😂

  • Pirate Style Jutsu
    Pirate Style Jutsu 12 сағат бұрын +2

    The person who invented BORG was definitely one of those kids that would mix every flavor of soda into one cup.

  • Carlistar 27
    Carlistar 27 21 сағат бұрын +306

    Aaaaah I remember college days. The non drinkers and less experienced drinkers loved my colorful ‘drinks’. Pink lemonade with some fruit and herbs. Made it look like a cocktail but no alcohol. Ever since been making more ‘mock tail’ recipes. I saw borgs at college and that what started me making fake but fancy looking drinks.

    • MovieFan1912
      MovieFan1912 18 сағат бұрын +1

      Good on you.

    • Nathan Bingham
      Nathan Bingham 18 сағат бұрын +1

      I was the 200 or 199 like on this and now it has 224 and then 225.

    • EndWarrior
      EndWarrior 19 сағат бұрын +1

      Bro send that recipe I have to avoid the people

    • S0me_Weirdo
      S0me_Weirdo 19 сағат бұрын +10

      You are GENIUS

  • Alfie Collier
    Alfie Collier 17 сағат бұрын +4

    Can’t lie I have never heard of Borgs before but this video has informed me and done nothing but make me want to make one

  • BusterBuilder
    BusterBuilder 10 сағат бұрын +2

    I started getting upset, thinking, "what's the issue? It's watering down vodka," By the end, this a more significant issue than the last video like this, the Starbucks lemonade, and an excellent point about drink regulation.

  • Akira
    Akira 12 сағат бұрын +2

    My college campus is known for it's parties and as well, its spiked drinks. It's honestly scary and makes me worry for my friends who do drink and who do party

  • Creative Minds
    Creative Minds 10 сағат бұрын +2

    OMG i had a friend in college that would always be carrying an arizona ice tea gallon jug. i'm not aware of it being spiked, but yeah. I think this idea is great. the point of a large container is that it can be consumed long term imo. I think it's just the usual college stuff of testing your limits or thinking your limits are higher than they actually are. also i'm surprised campus security isn't cracking down on this stuff pretty fast! parties i went to were often raided by noise complaints and campus security would often stop people on the road if they were holding a drink and looked the slightest bit drunk.

  • Chris Wideman
    Chris Wideman 10 сағат бұрын

    I remember mixing powdered concentrate, vodka, and water back when I was in middle school. Yes, I started drinking at a very young age, even for back in 2001. This idea has been around for a long long time. Its popular because its cheap, and its drinkable by people who don't like the taste of more conventional drinks (beer, wine, etc.); large amounts of the concentrated flavoring can completely mask the taste of the alcohol. In my experience, this is the kind of drink that people new to drinking tend to gravitate toward. Personally, I think its popularity is linked to a more strict adherence to the drinking age limit, and the resulting decrease in underaged drinking. In the past, when young adults reached the alcohol binging days of college, they were already pretty familiar with drinking. As such, they had often already acquired a taste for, and tended to prefer, those more conventional drinks. Obviously COVID has played a part. Having your own personal drink is more important now than it ever has been before, but I still think there is a connection with a generation far less familiar with drinking.

  • Alexis Harper
    Alexis Harper 19 сағат бұрын +223

    I'm actually a really big fan of the baby borg idea. You definitely should not have a full one in your hands while under the influence of alcohol, much less caffeine if you're crazy and want to do that, however having a set amount for you to drink in advance and easily be able to see where you are along that line is great. If someone is wild enough to want to do caffeine and alcohol, having a set amount of each that's specifically measured out is exactly what you need. Ironically, the baby borg can be used as a tool of moderation while the full borg just seems like the complete opposite. It would be really interesting to see how this could evolve.

    • Vaeldarg
      Vaeldarg 15 сағат бұрын +3

      The "full borg" in those clips Mat showed looks less like a "drinking game" and more like a cry for help from an alcohol addict.

  • Oscar S.
    Oscar S. 17 сағат бұрын +3

    I think it should also be acknowledged that the borg, with a high amount of water and sometimes electrolytes, helps provide hydration without people needing to put too much focus on it

  • The Protean Geek
    The Protean Geek 6 сағат бұрын +1

    I remember hearing a lot of these issues with caffeine and alcohol when people were slamming down red bull and vodka.

  • Lorenzo
    Lorenzo 5 сағат бұрын

    Wow, it's truly concerning to see how easily young people can be influenced by dangerous trends like BORGs. I appreciate Food Theory shedding light on the potential dangers of this TikTok drink and providing valuable information to help keep our youth safe. It's important that we continue to educate ourselves and our communities about the risks of participating in these types of challenges. Let's all make a conscious effort to promote responsible behavior and discourage harmful trends.

  • Michaela Testerman
    Michaela Testerman 11 сағат бұрын +1

    Thank you for addressing spiked drinks on college campuses. They are not discussed enough

  • Noah Ó Mórain-Rush
    Noah Ó Mórain-Rush 12 сағат бұрын +1

    I kept wondering why you were putting so much emphasis on the amount of alcohol or caffeine in the jug, because it literally didn't even occur to me that someone would be making this with the intention to drink the entire thing on their own.

  • QN Reviews
    QN Reviews 20 сағат бұрын +792

    Being in the UK, and as a teen, we regularly brought entire bottles of vodka with us which were absolutely gone by the end of the night. Borg seems to be a reskin of whatever random stuff we threw together hahaha

    • ChrisKatsu
      ChrisKatsu 12 сағат бұрын +1

      MatPat wouldn’t survive a bottle of Buckie! (Buckfast) if he thinks this blue WKD is OTT 😂

    • Sauce ///M3
      Sauce ///M3 14 сағат бұрын

      People do that here too

    • Hamspan
      Hamspan 14 сағат бұрын

      Nah, adults are being so dramatic. Just bc College kids have a name for it, doesn’t mean it’s anything new. It’s literally just Jungle Juice, or whatever you called it growing up. Everyone has done it, the only difference is college students carry it around in a gallon jug while most people just poured it in a cup back in the day. It’s actually better for hangovers too since there’s no sugar in the drink, it’s just water, vodka, and flavoring.

    • Yr Anghenfil
      Yr Anghenfil 15 сағат бұрын

      I was just about to put something similar! 😂

    • QN Reviews
      QN Reviews 15 сағат бұрын

      @Adrian Chazz a more northern Skins, sure 😂

  • DiPpyKaos
    DiPpyKaos 14 сағат бұрын +1

    There's also a lot more non caffeinated mio flavors than caffeinated ones. So not only can you remove the risk that caffeine brings, but have a lot more flavor options.

  • IAteItGuy
    IAteItGuy 12 сағат бұрын +1

    Another thing you didn't mention in the video, you technically don't need to drink it all in one sitting... or day... or week. You don't even need to add the caffeine that makes it extra dangerous. It might've started as alcoholic, but it can basically be whatever you want. As someone who doesn't drink (tried once and the buzz just reminded me of NyQuil) a juice-filled, non-alcoholic variant isn't something I'd be against (and honestly, my family's been doing a kool-aid version for a couple decades anyway. more surprised this is fairly new)

  • Nicole Smith
    Nicole Smith 4 сағат бұрын

    Super informative video, having had borgs in the past I can see the scares of it but also insane pros compared to other forms of drinking. I think it's also important to keep in mind (and wasn't really touched in this video) but borgs have a lot of alcohol, you generally aren't drinking it over the course of one party, It's over the course of an entire DAY often for tailgating or sports events. Also, from my own experience and what I've seen others do, Borgs are often made with pairs, not singular individuals. Ie, splitting it between two designated people so you're not having to down a fifth on your own. I myself haven't seen someone use a flavoring with caffeine in my experience, nor using their entire bottle, but I can see how some people would! Great video

  • Firefly
    Firefly 10 сағат бұрын +1

    I wanna make one now. I’m not a vodka guy but I could make something tasty and lean without overdoing it. Adding those electrolytes sounds like a good idea too. It beats going to the fridge several times for another beer. One jug and done for the evening

    • WynneL
      WynneL 6 сағат бұрын

      Yeah, vodka tastes like rubbing alcohol; I don't understand its popularity. Literally anything is better, and it's not like it's literally the cheapest alcohol available. Bacardi can easily compete with Skyy in price, is also clear and colorless, and tastes 100% better while still mixing well with like any fruit flavor in existence.

  • bananaxsplit
    bananaxsplit 20 сағат бұрын +554

    i am SO happy that MatPat talked about the commonality of spiked drinks; too many people forgot how serious it is 😣

    • LILwhut
      LILwhut 13 сағат бұрын +2

      Studies have shown that most people who think they've been spiked actually just drank too much. So the borg is probably not that helpful in preventing "spiked" drinks.

    • Paul Hikari
      Paul Hikari 14 сағат бұрын +1

      @Ayman Yes, I do want to miss it, EGY Crafts, and you and all of your spam bots need to be terminated at once.

    • The Larry
      The Larry 17 сағат бұрын +4

      My advice to my friends is to never drink anything you don't own

    • Craig Foster
      Craig Foster 17 сағат бұрын +1

      yeah :/

  • Trixie0026
    Trixie0026 15 сағат бұрын

    I had friends who went to a party with students from a famous engineer school of my town. they had created their own version of the "borg" but instead called it "the blackout goo". It was a mix of the highest % of alcohol they could find (sometime rumored to be rubbing alcohol) and Nestea powder. They basicallly found out that in higher concentration, the powder hid the taste of alcohol, but still maintained its property. My friends decribed the experience as the weirdest party ever as people would "fall" and just be blackout drunk everywhere.

  • Alina Rust
    Alina Rust 12 сағат бұрын +1

    from what I have heard on the topic, one of the LARGEST reasons why people like it so much is due to the high water content which greatly reduces hangover symptoms

  • Phantom Scythe
    Phantom Scythe 14 сағат бұрын

    Has this generation never heard of flasks? They can hold like 5 shots. You are good with that. But sure, Borg, drink your heart out. Good video, MatPat. Very informative. Made me realize just how bad my college peers are probably doing

  • That Jeff
    That Jeff 17 сағат бұрын +1

    This was starting to sound like a really bad idea being pushed by FT right up until you said (A) since you made it yourself and you keep it capped, you can make sure nothing is added to it and (B) you can dictate what's in the jug.
    Okay, I could see that. I recall college time and while I didn't go to frat parties I did attend one serious business party with college students. Of the five of us, I was the only teetotaler in the group and got ragged on about it by EVERYONE, including our two professors who brought us and the businessmen we were visiting. Then we had the three that drank and drank until one actually got sick in the host's bathroom--not a good sight for the actual adults in the party. And then we had the frat boy. He was smart--he graciously accepted a beer from the host but later my prof said he noticed frat boy NEVER took a swig, he just held it all night like he was consuming.
    Which brings me back to (B) up above: want to go to a college party but don't want to drink and don't want to be harassed about not drinking? Bring a jug of "BORG" that's nothing but Kool-Aid.

  • Courtney
    Courtney 7 сағат бұрын

    In the late '80s we used a gallon jug of cran-apple juice and 750ml of Everclear (more than double the proof of most vodkas and illegal in some states). I am sure those were good times, if I could remember any of it

  • Emmie
    Emmie 18 сағат бұрын +562

    Unis student here who also works in a bar:
    I have had an entire bottle of vodka in one night before (with mixers, I'm not that stupid). Here are my drinking tips to stay safe
    1- if you are at a party, never drink when you're alone. At least one person in your group HAS to stay sober. Make it fair by rotating
    2- my personal recommendation is to only get drinks in bottles, like VK, WKD, Rekordilig, Budweiser etc. Don't get mixed drinks or drinks from taps (in my experience they are also cheaper)
    3- if your drink is unattended for even a SECOND, that is no longer your drink. Abandon it or even better, dump it to prevent others from drinking a potentially spiked drink.
    5- If five people enter the party, five people are leaving. If your friend is drunk, do not let them go to someone else's place for a hook up. Especially if that other person is sober.
    6- if you don't see the drink being poured, do not drink it. If you feel uncomfortable with someone who bought you a drink, or you just don't want it, put it down discreetly or accidentally spill it. DO NOT do anything you are uncomfortable doing. Practice saying no. No does not stop predators sadly, but it can get someone else's attention
    7- ALWAYS MAKE A SCENE if you feel unsafe. Make as much noise as you can, get all eyes on you if possible. It does not matter if you are embarrassing yourself. Your safety is more important.
    8- (this one is just for convenience and can be more fun with the right people) drink at home with friends. Make your own foul cocktails in the safety of your own home. Worst case scenario, you throw up in your bathroom sink and have to spend an hour cleaning it the next morning.
    Have fun and stay safe!!!

    • Ruby Carlile
      Ruby Carlile 11 сағат бұрын

      Actually did throw up in the sink literally CHEEK TO CHEEK with my friend and we forgot to clean it up… it was at my parents house…. 😂

    • lanny fce
      lanny fce 12 сағат бұрын

      "im not that stupid" preceded by "i've had an entire bottle of vodka in one night" is very very funny

    • Michael B
      Michael B 12 сағат бұрын +2

      I never went drinking at bars in college; I couldn't afford it. My roommates and I would just have people over. Also, if I can make it to the bathrrom sink, I can make it to the toilet. If I can't make it to the bathroom, well that is unfortunate.

    • TheComposerChangingGames
      TheComposerChangingGames 13 сағат бұрын +1

      @Jeff Hilton 100%

  • James Keller
    James Keller 16 сағат бұрын +1

    I used to watch my mom drink an entire 5th straight 3 times a day and once in the middle of the night! She’s been sober now for 4 1/2 years now after she almost died like 3-4 times and had us taken away it crazy how bad drinking is. She got us back and I’m 18 now still ing having to live with my mother to help her out and the fact that I live in not cal. Where there isn’t much work and everything is still priced like the rest of cali…

  • rjtraves
    rjtraves 17 сағат бұрын +2

    from memory, the caffeine and alcohol law is why Jagerbombs are in special glasses as in theory its being served unmixed and mixes as you drink it so it gets around the legal loophole

  • Danny Baars
    Danny Baars 12 сағат бұрын

    Maybe a nasty trend indeed, especially the period in which it is taken. But binge drinking isn’t anything uncommon here in Europe either. People start drinking earlier 16 at home parties and 18 legally, and usually slows down after 35 unless your are an outlier. I drank 15-20 glasses of alcohol and also water in between in some occasion but that’s on a whole night going out (5-6h).

  • IroSquared Boku
    IroSquared Boku 15 сағат бұрын

    I could see the benefits making up a large quantity of favored cocktail for storage or sharing, but not single night single person consumption. Would have to be shelf stable, though; my chocolate caramel milk cocktail would not do well long term. You could even get some cheap vodka and steep flavoring into it for your own flavored alcohol. The personal bottle to prevent to drugging is brilliant though. You could get a cute (durable) bottle and make cute custom labels for it. Somewhere, I think I have bottle labels that say "mage tears" and I love the apothecary chic look.
    Just... just drink responsibly and be safe.

  • Oliver Lemley
    Oliver Lemley 9 сағат бұрын

    Considering one person isint meant to consume a whole bottle in one sitting I'm honestly ok with it, drink reasonably, share with friends or save some for later. The recipe itself doesn't seem to bad

  • Mistyless
    Mistyless 21 сағат бұрын +457

    Seriously thank you for talking about things like spiked drinks and the like. Not a lot of youtubers in the genra tend not to bring it up, let alone bring stats into things. As someone who had to be equipped to handle these situations from an age younger than I probably should have, whenever I go out to social settings and end up people watching, I see so many red flags, and have even caught (and stopped) situations happening. So many people are reckless with things like this and it's something I didn't expect to be brought up. Again, thank you so very much for talking about this.

    • Mistyless
      Mistyless 16 сағат бұрын +1

      @Nathan Bingham let's gooo

    • Nathan Bingham
      Nathan Bingham 18 сағат бұрын

      400Th like!Let's go!

    • Mistyless
      Mistyless 19 сағат бұрын +7

      @Micia Rokiri I used to have a group I'd get out with. We'd watch over each other, until we lost one of the members. I still go out and I don't drink and know what to do to keep myself safe, but so many people are so trusting. I have protected my friends with my life. That shouldn't end cause I don't know someone, but I've seen other people watch and do nothing. People need to protect others, I'd never not.

    • Micia Rokiri
      Micia Rokiri 20 сағат бұрын +13

      It's amazing how much you see when people watching. Thanks for stepping in. A lot of people will see it but either be too far gone themselves to process it, or they don't want to "rock the boat" and keep silent.

  • jacobGforce
    jacobGforce 10 сағат бұрын

    I have a dream that one day TikTok will promote fun, non-stupid challenges that actually improve lives and the world instead of ruining them. Thank you for this refreshing message, Food Theory.

  • Angry person in the comments
    Angry person in the comments 14 сағат бұрын

    At first I assumed this was a thing to share, now I’m concerned. Another thought, have you ever thought of covering “battery acid” it’s monster energy mixed with vodka i believe. It’s pretty popular with teenagers

  • Logan
    Logan 13 сағат бұрын +1

    I wonder how drinks like Irish coffees fit in this when discussing mixing caffeine and alcohol especially since bars and other places selling alcohol often have coffee alcoholic drinks?

  • Lord Malachi
    Lord Malachi 14 сағат бұрын

    Yea, pretty much immediately my reaction to this was "Ok so, just drink less of it and you're fine". 1/2 gallon jugs (with half the vodka) and non-caff flavors should effectively solve the issue. Just make two baby borgs at a time and save the second for another night.
    Now getting party going college students to actually do that... is the difficult part.

  • Good Gaijin Greg
    Good Gaijin Greg 11 сағат бұрын

    I would still like to see a video on which alcohol will make you live longer (old people always say having whiskey or something everyday made them love so long) or is the healthiest

  • Karmpit
    Karmpit 15 сағат бұрын +179

    I will say that the spiked drink scene is definitely being handled the best it can be I was once escorted out of a party just for moving someones drink to get to my drink that was behind it alot of people are taking it seriously and I completely understood and yes i pled my case and was told it was just a precaution and I am 100% for this at any function but i will definitely be asking people to move their drinks instead of me just doing it from now on

    • D_Clarence
      D_Clarence 8 сағат бұрын

      If they were really concerned, they could have dumped the drink, and searched you for the drugs. If you happened to have a different drug on you at the time, that would probably look bad, and be hard to explain.

    • D_Clarence
      D_Clarence 8 сағат бұрын

      It sounds like they were making a big deal out of nothing. Unless they saw you put something in a drink, they shouldn't be attacking you for something they have no concrete evidence of happening.

  • Marco Antonio Aguirre Gonzalez
    Marco Antonio Aguirre Gonzalez 17 сағат бұрын +1

    I just want to note, in Mexico we do this, since I have memories of drinking, this is basically a recepie for "aguas locas" or "crazy waters"
    Wich is a cheep and simple way of getting drunk and that's it

  • Groose Gaming
    Groose Gaming 16 сағат бұрын

    I honestly love the safety aspect of the borg to prevent spiking anyones drink. I would totally just make an orange baby borg, which would just be the equivalent of a screwdriver (oj+vodka) and skip all the caffine

  • Methuselah Winter
    Methuselah Winter 14 сағат бұрын

    I think a “safer” borg would use fruit juice (or a mixer syrup used for cocktails), flavored water (without caffeine), and much less alcohol to water ratio. I know it’s about getting wasted for cheap but maybe this would be a better and more fun solution. Like a jug of Hippie Juice (one of my favorite cocktails)

  • Marco Wefers
    Marco Wefers 15 сағат бұрын +2

    If you are smart with it it’s genius. You put whatever you want in it, as little as you need if you’re smart, and no one can spike it. Great trend

  • Jacob Mccann
    Jacob Mccann 12 сағат бұрын

    I am willing to believe those spiked drinks numbers, but they don't really pass the smell test for me. I had a social life in college that was slightly less than average. I was part of a fairly large but close knit friend group. I had some other friends and went to maybe half a dozen parties that extended meaningfully beyond my friend group. None of my close friends have experienced it, and I'm only aware of a handful of my acquaintances who have experienced it.
    I'm from the south. If we find out that someone SA'ed our daughter or girlfriend or best friend, the perpetrator is not going to be long for this world. If this kind of drug stuff was so rampant, I'd expect a lot more revenge murders.

  • Ghost anxiety
    Ghost anxiety 18 сағат бұрын +137

    My older brother actually would take a non alcoholic borg to parties so he wouldn’t have to worry about the things you said in the second half of the video. In reality it would just be kook-aid most of the time

    • angelwitch99
      angelwitch99 13 сағат бұрын +15

      I was just that the best part of a Borg is when you don't feel like drinking you can just make a jug of koolaid and no one will know the difference, so they won't pester you about drinking or try to make you a drink or anything and you can stay safe and sober without having to worry

    • spiros korakianitis
      spiros korakianitis 15 сағат бұрын

      Why I am here kiddo

  • IdrawThingslol
    IdrawThingslol 16 сағат бұрын

    I made some of this in college (no alcohol). I made a little milk jug with fabric with a beaded handle made of braided cloth lol.

  • Evan Hoelscher
    Evan Hoelscher 10 сағат бұрын

    As someone who has borged multiple times, in my experience I’ve never seen anyone use a whole 1/5th but it’s mostly closer to 3/4 of a bottle. And also it’s usually only about half a mio bottle

  • McDonald’s queen
    McDonald’s queen 11 сағат бұрын +2

    I just wanted to say it is so handy that matpat is making videos about caffeine problems right when I’m going to do a presentation on it. I think it’s the funniest thing that my main source is matpats Panera video.

  • Nerd - Bookworm
    Nerd - Bookworm 16 сағат бұрын

    See I always get pressured with alcohol when I’m more of a wacky tabacky kind of gal. But I didn’t even think about the adjusting alcohol level part. Def gonna try it but put it in a plastic coke bottle. You know, reduce, reuse, recycle after all

  • Lawrence John Young
    Lawrence John Young 11 сағат бұрын

    Reminds me of a drink that was a favorite in my circle of friends in college. Drink a 2 liter of mountain dew to the top of the table, replace with everclear and add a green koolaid packet. We called it the Mountain Don't

  • James Zoumas
    James Zoumas 19 сағат бұрын +364

    I am a freshman in college. Party’s are most certainly not my thing so I had no idea what a borg was until I walked into my room while my roommate was gathering the ingredients to make one. I was just like why do you have mio and vodka.

    • EG and AJ
      EG and AJ 15 сағат бұрын +1

      But more new people know what it is because of tiktok. Less people would know and without tiktok it would fade and just be an old memory. Probably.

    • White
      White 16 сағат бұрын +10

      @Rendokunot a TikTok thing… it’s been a thing for many years now

    • Rendoku
      Rendoku 18 сағат бұрын +19

      Tell your roommate to touch grass and stop watching tiktok 😂

    • Lovela Snow
      Lovela Snow 18 сағат бұрын +3

      I’d ask to taste the vodka

  • Phoebe Davis
    Phoebe Davis 7 сағат бұрын

    A lot of people ik (being in university) we use borgs (me personally haven’t joined at this point in time) for the safety of keeping our drink from being spiked since it’s a big risk around any campus. People I know don’t use a lot of caffeine or any to mix in, I truly appreciate my generation for keeping our own drinks safe but I truly appreciate you warning everyone about the dangerous of it as well

  • Metronic Magician
    Metronic Magician 16 сағат бұрын

    One of my favorite things about the borg is that it’s the perfect next step from the jungle juice (JJ). It takes every problem that JJ has and either fixes it entirely, or give you the ability to fix it entirely if you choose. From safety to alcohol consumption it is the literal best option for a college drinking party. Even when JJ isn’t made or tampered with in a malicious way it’s still unbelievably dangerous since you have zero clue how much and of what is put in their. The core concept of the borg is down right stupid, but when in reference to its predecessor of jungle juice it’s complete genius.

  • Connor Peterson
    Connor Peterson 10 сағат бұрын +1

    I remember doing almost exactly this probably ten years ago in college, only we used 151, water, and non caffeinated mio. I thought we were genuises tbh. It was cheap and effective, can't complain

    • WynneL
      WynneL 5 сағат бұрын

      You absolutely *WERE* geniuses! I feel sad for those poor souls mixing rubbing alcohol with caffeine, when they could drink something that both tastes better and doesn't mix uppers with downers.

  • Earendilgrey
    Earendilgrey 15 сағат бұрын

    This honestly doesn't sound any worse than the old "Trash Can Punch" we used to drink back in the day.

  • Wind_Cursed
    Wind_Cursed 14 сағат бұрын

    Ok, so what I'm getting from this video is that I should bring my own drink if I ever go to a College party

  • Jason 64 nely
    Jason 64 nely 21 сағат бұрын +470

    i was a lil worried when u sold the channel but when u explained and showed us nothing would change i felt better, plz never stop what u do i would like to see grandpa pat lol you guys have helped me threw a lot and if anybody in the theorist family sees this thank you to

    • corey hamby
      corey hamby 18 сағат бұрын

      @Hideki Shinichi Sadly I agree. Now tkor is just a KZclip shorts channel. With a couple lifeless videos on between. But I used to like Nate and Callie for the most part. But after grant left as the host it lost some of it's pop. But like you said Grants family has someone in their ear telling them that Nate and the other hosts are making too much and they could just can all the talent and they kept the one boring girl and they are just not good. But all that matters financially is that they can keep low overhead and lower quality but it doesn't matter because they now make cheaper vids and make less money with a worse product. Btw Nate is still going he has a channel called "Nate from the internet. Pretty interesting. But eventually this channel will end up watered down. Every creator that has built up a huge KZclip empire eventually wants to be less involved and spend more time with family and maybe doing another project.

    • Hideki Shinichi
      Hideki Shinichi 18 сағат бұрын

      The example with tkor is best.
      First we had grant. Then he left to run things behind the scene and it turned into a meh channel. Still ok but nothing as it was before. Then grant passed, company got different management, they got rid of the usual hosts and changed it to 5 min craft esque garbage. Yet they still are up and running. This is going to turn that way eventually or the channels are going to die while trying. Matpat leaving or being essentialy sacked would mean nothing

    • Place-Holder
      Place-Holder 18 сағат бұрын

      @Pulkatz sorry, one time I said lifes instead of lives and someone replied seriously saying I was in a cult of ignorance. Spelling suggestions just can easily lead to the reply thread being poisoned. Again really sorry that I replied so meanly, have a great day!

    • corey hamby
      corey hamby 19 сағат бұрын

      ​​@Micheal Persicko that's what they did on The King of Random channel. Canned the good hosts because they were there from beginning and we're making a percentage of channel. and now the channel is garbage

    • Saber
      Saber 20 сағат бұрын +2

      I totally forgot Matpat sold the channel

  • LooseGoose
    LooseGoose 15 сағат бұрын

    You guys should do a video about the sugary cereal lawsuit and the bold claims Kellogg’s makes about their sugary cereals being healthy

  • Luke Gibson
    Luke Gibson 16 сағат бұрын

    LOL I like the way Matt Patt talks about a 5th of vodka like it's such an insane amount to drink, that diluted I'm not even sure I could drink that fast enough to get me drunk, I'll often drink a straight litre of vodka + plus several pack of cider over a night and I'll still be fairly sober as long as I'm not glugging it back.

  • Isus
    Isus 7 сағат бұрын

    ah, i remember doing something like borg this year, i just trew what ever we had in one solo cup, and there was a lot of things and just drank the whole thing. i wouldn't say that it was bad, but it also wasn't good, like it was a 4-5/10, but i didn't put any water in it so that might have changed the taste

  • Carlos Alvarez
    Carlos Alvarez 16 сағат бұрын

    I like how there are parents blaming these alcoholic companies despite these same parents not being held responsible themselves for being oblivious to these dangers and letting there children get into so much harm