I'd say Sonic 2 the waterfall counted cause the water fall water was running below his feet. But Sonic 1 it was just flowing in the foreground not touching him. Move on to the water level!
The reason Sonic R’s controls are that way is that before sonic r came into development, the devs (Traveler’s Tales) were making a normal racing game with the engine for the game complete. But the idea was scrapped in favor of what would soon be known as Sonic R, but since they had already made a racing game engine, they went with reusing that engine instead of making a new one. Correct me if i’m wrong, but I am sure that is why the characters are so slippery.
The reason Sonic CD runs so weird for you is because I'm assuming you have a 120hz+ monitor, and the game is trying to match that refresh rate. You're gonna have to go into the Geforce control panel (as I assume you're using an Nvidia GPU) and set the game's framerate limit to 60. Also if you count the foreground waterfalls in Sonic 1 and 2, you have to count the ones in 4.
I think the foreground waterfalls wouldn’t count similarly to the background ones. So you’d be waiting to labyrinth zone, chemical plant zone and tidal tempest. You did pass through a waterfall in generations though, so that counts
"Let's see how fast we can traumatize Sonic with the thing he hates and fears most!" You can touch water a lot sooner in Colors: Ultimate I'm pretty sure. In...Act 2 I think (whichever one has the first Metal Sonic race), you can touch water in a small waterfall near the end using Jade Wisp and letting it run out.
Sonic 1 has the same waterfalls as in Sonic Mania (and it doesn't extinguish your fire shield in Mania). So in Sonic 1, you have to hike all the way to Zone 4 (Labyrinth Zone) to touch any water. The waterfalls count in Sonic 2 though, because you are actually walking on the waterfall. Otherwise, just hike it to Act 2 of the next zone, and fall in the purple water (it's apparently called Mega Mack). The next zone after that has actual pristine water. Sonic 3 has water in practically every single zone. Water you can actually submerge in. Lone exception is Marble Garden Zone. Sonic & Knuckles doesn't have ANY water you can touch. And the only water you even SEE are the water fountains in sky sanctuary (you can't touch them of course). In Sonic CD, the waterfalls don't count. But Palmtree Panic has water you can walk in just fine, so it still counts. The level also throws you out of a tube through water with a splash at one point too.
Personally, this is a cool idea for a challenge but I think the concept of 'How Fast Can You DIE From Water in Every Sonic Game?' would've worked better. In that sense, it would be a race to see how fast Sonic can drown, which would make the line of whether or not you touched water much more thinner. Also, side note but you missed a few notable games like Sonic Rivals 1, Sonic 3D Blast, the Advance trilogy, Rush Adventures, & Sonic & Knuckles, but there's probably more I didn't think of. Another side note, but I'm just a little confused why you included Sonic R & Sonic Rivals 2, when most would say that their both spinoff games & that they don't count. By this logic, you should also have played Sonic The Fighters, & Sonic Battle, & The Sonic racing games, & all the Game Gear & Master System spinoffs as well.
In Tropical Resort Act 2, you could touch water if you use the drill wisp and head through the Yellow Drill Wisp Pipe in the first part of the act. If done right, the pipe would lead you to pop up out of the fountain. If you kept going a bit more around 7:43; past the loop and falling blocks segment.
I have been to waterfalls before and when you are near them or close enough, they splash water. Like, the water doesn't go perfectly straight down it more like drizzles like rain. So I think it would be accurate to count the waterfalls as touching water.
6:50 - I don’t think I would count it because sonic kicks up dust each time you start walking. Granted race tracks water their dirt for off road portions to stop dust, I think we can safely assume there is no moisture there
for the older sonic games running too fast, go into task manager if you're on Windows, and make sure you disable how many processor cores are allowed to run the game, until it works properly
0:39 - Sonic 1 I would not count this waterfall. Sonic isn't touching it, it's just in front of Sonic. 0:58 - Sonic 2 Same here 2:07 - Sonic CD Failure 3:42 - Sonic Rush This should have counted while you were still running. The water on the floor was splashing, so Sonic touched water already 6:48 - Sonic 4 Episode 1 This is LITERALLY the same EXACT circumstance as you counted for Sonic 1, 2, and CD My stance is the same, so good thing you actually didn't count this one 8:18 - Sonic Colors What the fuck happened there lmfao I mean. . . sure, I guess that counts? Technically I'd say it's a similar situation to Sonic Unleashed where it's more like you're just in the death plane rather than the water but. . . fuck it.
you can touch water a little faster in sonic colours, after unlocking the drill wisp go back to Tropical Resort act 2 and drill beneath the stage into some pipes, one will spit you out of the fountain before the 3d section thus touching water
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I dunno, considering a foreground element (waterfalls) as touching water seems like bit of a cop out, should have treated it like the background elements. but oh well, least he points it out it that it's funky.
the waterfalls in the 2d games are actually not touching water. As seen in the sonic 3 and sonic mania, the fire shield will instantly be gone if sonic touches water, this is not present at 9:22 meaning that you are not touching water
1. Count waterfalls over the character in classic games. 2. Doesn't count the same waterfalls in Sonic the Hedgehog 4 and jumping into the water in Sonic Unleashed as well. Excuse me? P. S.: You should cap framerate (or maybe enable VSync) in Sonic CD to make timeflow go normal
in sonic adventure 2 you could've gotten the chao key in the first level and then walked in the water in the chao garden instead it would've been significantly faster
i can (try to) answer sonic r's weird feeling controls; it was literally just travelers tales converting an in progress f1 game they had, into a sonic game at the request of sega, so they likely just tweaked the existing physics to feel more inline with what 3d sonic might feel like, and at the end of the day, that's never going to be optimal, especially when they had a deadline to meet. in other words, it feels weird because you aren't playing as sonic characters you're playing as racing cars pretending to be sonic characters. also this was made by the same people as 3d blast, so i think these guys just have a weird opinion on how sonic should move in 3d.
I would not count the waterfalls in the 2D games for the simple fact that you don’t lose the fire shield when you walk past them meaning that they are in front of you. Not that you are going through them
I don’t know if anyone has said this but you need to cap your fps for Sonic CD. I don’t remember the exact reason but the fps for some reason is really high and makes the game run super fast.
In my opinion, I believe that it should only count as water if: • Sonic creates water particles (i.e. splashing) • Sonic can be partially/fully submerged (in a puddle or underwater) • (This one's for an extra challenge) If Sonic can drown Therefore, the waterfalls in most of the 2D games *do not count* because Sonic can neither splash through them or be submerged in them, as they are purely part of the foreground/background. The only true (first) water in Sonic 1 is Labyrinth Zone, Sonic 2 is Chemical Plant _(you all can debate if this is water or chemical waste in a reply thread if you'd like),_ and Sonic CD would be Tidal Tempest Zone. Also, +1 for counting Chaos 0; that was clever. If not, then the true water would be Emerald Coast.
4:13 oh wow look, an intentionally overly negative representation of 06, how unexpected and welcome, not exhausting and unpleasant😐 Regardless, fun video, want more from this series of touching/not touching stuff
@Gamerocker Appreciate the tip but no need, I don't mess around with emulators and stuff, pretty much got myself a console from each gen as well as a PC and a bunch of portable systems, when I wanna play older games I just boot up my old consoles🥴
@KOTSOSMC2002 The other classics were emulated, I can tell because they're not in true widescreen, but in 4:3 aspect ratio stretched. Emulators being open source and always updated would probably have the thought to correct for high framerates. Also, don't play any system released before the xbox 360, ps3, and wii in widescreen, it'll stretch out the picture.
The counsel (me and my roommates) have discussed this video, and we have decided that being behind a waterfall in 2d Sonic games DOES NOT count as touching water. Phasing through the aquarium Also does not count. The counsel wishes to sentence you to waterboarding, but I've talked them down to you having to remake this video.
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It would have been faster to start with the Dark Story, where Rouge can quickly touch water in Dry Lagoon.
@just random videos i share on discord Well it's still a LAGOON. It's just dry along the edges.
hold on... DRY lagoon has WATER?
I was thinking the same thing
@John Huh. I've never seen it marketed once.
Sonic speed Sim is official
I wouldn't consider those waterfalls as touching water cause the flame shield would have been extinguished if you were touching it at 9:21
@The Real Saudiball i literally am already over it
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I'd say Sonic 2 the waterfall counted cause the water fall water was running below his feet. But Sonic 1 it was just flowing in the foreground not touching him. Move on to the water level!
... u wot, m8
The reason Sonic R’s controls are that way is that before sonic r came into development, the devs (Traveler’s Tales) were making a normal racing game with the engine for the game complete. But the idea was scrapped in favor of what would soon be known as Sonic R, but since they had already made a racing game engine, they went with reusing that engine instead of making a new one.
Correct me if i’m wrong, but I am sure that is why the characters are so slippery.
You should do when you touch water in every Mario and every sonic game in the same vid
It controls better if you use the 3D Control Pad for the Sega Saturn.
The reason Sonic CD runs so weird for you is because I'm assuming you have a 120hz+ monitor, and the game is trying to match that refresh rate.
You're gonna have to go into the Geforce control panel (as I assume you're using an Nvidia GPU) and set the game's framerate limit to 60.
Also if you count the foreground waterfalls in Sonic 1 and 2, you have to count the ones in 4.
I think the foreground waterfalls wouldn’t count similarly to the background ones. So you’d be waiting to labyrinth zone, chemical plant zone and tidal tempest. You did pass through a waterfall in generations though, so that counts
Also chemical plant liquid is actually mega mack, not water, so in sonic 2 would have to wait till aquatic ruins
"Let's see how fast we can traumatize Sonic with the thing he hates and fears most!"
You can touch water a lot sooner in Colors: Ultimate I'm pretty sure. In...Act 2 I think (whichever one has the first Metal Sonic race), you can touch water in a small waterfall near the end using Jade Wisp and letting it run out.
I can explain your CD issue. You have to use Nvidia Control Panel and manually limit the framerate to 60FPS. SA2 often has a similar issue.
I think you can easily touch water earlier in SA2 if you collect the chao key, as the chao garden contains water
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Sonic 1 has the same waterfalls as in Sonic Mania (and it doesn't extinguish your fire shield in Mania). So in Sonic 1, you have to hike all the way to Zone 4 (Labyrinth Zone) to touch any water.
The waterfalls count in Sonic 2 though, because you are actually walking on the waterfall. Otherwise, just hike it to Act 2 of the next zone, and fall in the purple water (it's apparently called Mega Mack). The next zone after that has actual pristine water.
Sonic 3 has water in practically every single zone. Water you can actually submerge in. Lone exception is Marble Garden Zone.
Sonic & Knuckles doesn't have ANY water you can touch. And the only water you even SEE are the water fountains in sky sanctuary (you can't touch them of course).
In Sonic CD, the waterfalls don't count. But Palmtree Panic has water you can walk in just fine, so it still counts. The level also throws you out of a tube through water with a splash at one point too.
Personally, this is a cool idea for a challenge but I think the concept of 'How Fast Can You DIE From Water in Every Sonic Game?' would've worked better. In that sense, it would be a race to see how fast Sonic can drown, which would make the line of whether or not you touched water much more thinner. Also, side note but you missed a few notable games like Sonic Rivals 1, Sonic 3D Blast, the Advance trilogy, Rush Adventures, & Sonic & Knuckles, but there's probably more I didn't think of. Another side note, but I'm just a little confused why you included Sonic R & Sonic Rivals 2, when most would say that their both spinoff games & that they don't count. By this logic, you should also have played Sonic The Fighters, & Sonic Battle, & The Sonic racing games, & all the Game Gear & Master System spinoffs as well.
In Tropical Resort Act 2, you could touch water if you use the drill wisp and head through the Yellow Drill Wisp Pipe in the first part of the act. If done right, the pipe would lead you to pop up out of the fountain. If you kept going a bit more around 7:43; past the loop and falling blocks segment.
i figured bruh 💀 i havent played colors in so long
1:48 I love how he said water in spanish out of nowhere. No warning, no context, no nothing. Just... agua
Agua 😭
Agua
@HUGO FELIX bruh, its the same word in the same context, the same
@Kaexe comments something don't listen to him, these portuguese ppl nowadays ykr
I have been to waterfalls before and when you are near them or close enough, they splash water. Like, the water doesn't go perfectly straight down it more like drizzles like rain. So I think it would be accurate to count the waterfalls as touching water.
6:50 - I don’t think I would count it because sonic kicks up dust each time you start walking. Granted race tracks water their dirt for off road portions to stop dust, I think we can safely assume there is no moisture there
for the older sonic games running too fast, go into task manager if you're on Windows, and make sure you disable how many processor cores are allowed to run the game, until it works properly
I’d say Sonic Mania is the perfect proof for why being behind waterfalls shouldn’t count-your fire shield remained in tact.
0:39 - Sonic 1
I would not count this waterfall. Sonic isn't touching it, it's just in front of Sonic.
0:58 - Sonic 2
Same here
2:07 - Sonic CD
Failure
3:42 - Sonic Rush
This should have counted while you were still running. The water on the floor was splashing, so Sonic touched water already
6:48 - Sonic 4 Episode 1
This is LITERALLY the same EXACT circumstance as you counted for Sonic 1, 2, and CD
My stance is the same, so good thing you actually didn't count this one
8:18 - Sonic Colors
What the fuck happened there lmfao
I mean. . . sure, I guess that counts?
Technically I'd say it's a similar situation to Sonic Unleashed where it's more like you're just in the death plane rather than the water but. . . fuck it.
For SA2, wouldn't it have been faster to do the Dark story instead? Then you'll have water in the second level.
Generations could technically end a second sooner, there's a puddle at the bottom of that ramp that sends you through the waterfall
I have to say, the lack of water splashing in various bodies of water in Unleashed has always bothered me a bit.
Cd probably runs at 2x speed because your monitor has a higher refresh rate than intended, making the fps count more than it should be.
same thing happens in SA2B on PC
Yeah I had this trouble with my 144hz monitor, I managed to rectify the issue by changing the refresh rate to 60hz.
That’s the first thing I thought of. I remember people have had that issue with SA2’s PC version as well.
0:38 I don't think it counts since the water is in the foreground and not splashing on him but thats my opinion
yea i kinda noticed it once i got to sonic 4:/
you can touch water a little faster in sonic colours, after unlocking the drill wisp go back to Tropical Resort act 2 and drill beneath the stage into some pipes, one will spit you out of the fountain before the 3d section thus touching water
2:32 pro tip: In SA2 get a chao box in City Escape and go to the chao garden. You can touch water faster that way.
8:55 funniest part 😂
1:59 I believe it's tied to your refresh rate, that's why it's running twice as fast.
Forcing VSync should fix this in all games.
The pc port of sonic adventure 2 also has this issue
@Pila there's probably a mod that limits it
@RICESTIR All Retro Engine games have this issue but usually are limited to 60, for some reason CD 2011 isn't.
yup, that happens to me, speed is tied to framerate in cd which is weird
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4:18 this is by far the most glitched cutscene in sonic 06 i’ve ever seen
pretty sure he's playing emu cause i speedrun 06 and this never happens.
7:51 love how he went insane
*HAAHAHAA*
These touch grass/water challenges have really gotten big 🤣
Could've just got the chao key in City escape, and touch the water in the chao garden lol
I dunno, considering a foreground element (waterfalls) as touching water seems like bit of a cop out, should have treated it like the background elements. but oh well, least he points it out it that it's funky.
The fastest way to touch water in sonic 1 is to just use level select and go to labyrinth
In Sonic Mania, if you play Sonic Mania Plus instead, you can touch water faster in Angel Island Zone I think.
I believe that behind the waterfalls you don't touch the water - the waterfalls are on the "frontground" when the character is on the "middleground"
STAY HYDRATED!!!! What should I touch next?
Mr. Eggmann
this is probably the million'th time you've head it, but go touch grass.
Grass
Grass
Grass?
The normal sonic 06 experience, 4:20 the normal amount of bugs.
@Carlos Perez lmao dw bout it, have a nice day
@doutstiP Oh, I didn't thought you were talking about the video.
@Carlos Perez yes, i know that, but that specific flickering issue is from a compatability problem between 06 and rpcs3
@doutstiP Bullshit, the game wasn't tested or finished, the team making it didn't have enough time because of the gracious SEGA.
thats an issue that occurs when trying to play the game on a ps3 emu, it isnt present on the original hardware
Quite a few games you missed, but still overall a fun video concept.
i have never seen "water%" in sonic games until now, and this man just got world record in every single game in 1 video lol
@just random videos i share on discord hell yeah
@N H water% should be made into an official speedrun category lol
There are a few that wouldn't count otherwise yeah it's true
4:59 Got to be the funniest part
Well, yes.
Now you must speedrun touching a grass IRL
I find the absence of Shadow the Hedgehog strange. You go through loops, you collect rings, you jump around, you go very fast. It's a Sonic game.
I would say you touch it with 6:52 because it will let you stop playing Sonic 4
This guy finally played the best sonic game at the end
the waterfalls in the 2d games are actually not touching water. As seen in the sonic 3 and sonic mania, the fire shield will instantly be gone if sonic touches water, this is not present at 9:22 meaning that you are not touching water
This is the sonic equivalent of "go touch grass"
Waterfall curtains splash water everywhere so I’d definitely count waterfalls in front of sonic.
Now we must see how fact we can touch grass!
If you go into the water in mania with a fire shield it will cancel it and the waterfall does not, so you are not touching the water.
gotcha thank u for letting me know
At 8:20, Sonic flying off like that is a side effect of the 60 FPS code for Sonic Colors on Dolphin.
There's a waterfall in Green Hill act 1, if you take the bottom path after the double S-Tube
Could’ve literally touched water in that knuckles stage
1. Count waterfalls over the character in classic games.
2. Doesn't count the same waterfalls in Sonic the Hedgehog 4 and jumping into the water in Sonic Unleashed as well.
Excuse me?
P. S.: You should cap framerate (or maybe enable VSync) in Sonic CD to make timeflow go normal
Alternative title: Water, water everywhere, but not a drop to touch.
2:00 if you play it higher then 60hz it will run at 2x speed
in sonic adventure 2 you could've gotten the chao key in the first level and then walked in the water in the chao garden instead it would've been significantly faster
2:03
Make sure to lower your hertz to 60 it fixes it
for sonic cd, you gotta put your screen to 60hz, I had the same problem because my screen is 144hz, but in settings you can change it
I feel like if you keep doing similar videos for other games your channel could become big kinda like a sub version of eazyspeedy
For 2D sonic games I’d say if it slows you down or removes your fire shield you touched water
5:34 Rayman 3 reference!
YESSSS
Bro sonic unleashed is literally my childhood so the amount of nostalgia I felt was godly
i can (try to) answer sonic r's weird feeling controls; it was literally just travelers tales converting an in progress f1 game they had, into a sonic game at the request of sega, so they likely just tweaked the existing physics to feel more inline with what 3d sonic might feel like, and at the end of the day, that's never going to be optimal, especially when they had a deadline to meet.
in other words, it feels weird because you aren't playing as sonic characters you're playing as racing cars pretending to be sonic characters.
also this was made by the same people as 3d blast, so i think these guys just have a weird opinion on how sonic should move in 3d.
At least the 3D control pad makes the game perform better
Never been so excited to touch water before
Am I the only one who remembers Sonic 3D on the Sega Saturn? I love that game and you can touch water pretty quick IIRC.
unless the waterfall is like 10 feet away, some water droplets are hitting sonic.
Sonic cd probably runs at 2x speed because I think the framerate is above 60
You need to lock ur framerate
gotcha its probably my monitor
Next to Sonic CD you are also forgetting the very popular Sonic 3D Blast game. Would love them to be added in these series
Sonic R was such an amazing part of my childhood thanks for the nostalgia wave
For Sonic Adventure 2, couldn't you just go to the Chao garden after beating City Eacape?
You touched the water sooner before jumping off from the ramp in Sonic Generations because there's a puddle. 8:37 Good video although!
I would not count the waterfalls in the 2D games for the simple fact that you don’t lose the fire shield when you walk past them meaning that they are in front of you. Not that you are going through them
5:00 I swear I can't with the perfectly cuts XDDDD
In Sonic CD, the framerate is built for 60fps. You're probably running it on either a high refresh rate monitor or forcing v-sync off?
GloKaze: Plays into the Hero Story to find water
Chao Garden: Am I a joke to you?
🚙"How fast can you touch grass before your dad leaves."🦔
Great! Now let's speedrun touching grass in sonic
I enjoyed this video more than I expected... Nice!
"wait wha- WE'RE WATER!" -GloKaze, 2023
I personally (as spanish speaker) felt cuteness when I heard you say "agua" in Sonic R.
Such quality time consuming such quality content
You didn't touch water until you got to hydrocity zone.
Can't you lock the framerate with the mod loader for Sonic CD?
there was a waterfall in sonic the hedgehog green hill zone 2, its just in a secret area thats pretty easy to get to
Hedgehogs according to BBC Earth: They are great swimmers
Hedgehogs according to Sonic: 0:02
Why copied
I don’t know if anyone has said this but you need to cap your fps for Sonic CD. I don’t remember the exact reason but the fps for some reason is really high and makes the game run super fast.
In my opinion, I believe that it should only count as water if:
• Sonic creates water particles (i.e. splashing)
• Sonic can be partially/fully submerged (in a puddle or underwater)
• (This one's for an extra challenge) If Sonic can drown
Therefore, the waterfalls in most of the 2D games *do not count* because Sonic can neither splash through them or be submerged in them, as they are purely part of the foreground/background.
The only true (first) water in Sonic 1 is Labyrinth Zone, Sonic 2 is Chemical Plant _(you all can debate if this is water or chemical waste in a reply thread if you'd like),_ and Sonic CD would be Tidal Tempest Zone.
Also, +1 for counting Chaos 0; that was clever. If not, then the true water would be Emerald Coast.
I feel compelled to touch water now…
Sonic Colors may lost, but it has the best water physics.
Your Sonic CD runs at 2x speed probably because you didnt open the limit speed setting at the emulation.
4:13 oh wow look, an intentionally overly negative representation of 06, how unexpected and welcome, not exhausting and unpleasant😐
Regardless, fun video, want more from this series of touching/not touching stuff
Your tv might just mess it up automatically
@KOTSOSMC2002 Just play 'em in 4:3
@Gamerocker Appreciate the tip but no need, I don't mess around with emulators and stuff, pretty much got myself a console from each gen as well as a PC and a bunch of portable systems, when I wanna play older games I just boot up my old consoles🥴
@KOTSOSMC2002 The other classics were emulated, I can tell because they're not in true widescreen, but in 4:3 aspect ratio stretched. Emulators being open source and always updated would probably have the thought to correct for high framerates. Also, don't play any system released before the xbox 360, ps3, and wii in widescreen, it'll stretch out the picture.
@Gamerocker Interesting. Shouldn't that happen for the other classics he played as well then?
The counsel (me and my roommates) have discussed this video, and we have decided that being behind a waterfall in 2d Sonic games DOES NOT count as touching water. Phasing through the aquarium Also does not count.
The counsel wishes to sentence you to waterboarding, but I've talked them down to you having to remake this video.
The real question here is how fast can YOU touch grass
I have better question, how long will it take for you to touch some Grass?
tropical Resort act 2 actually has a secret passage where you touch water
What about the other spinoff titles? Go touch water in Knuckles' Chaotix!
8:30 wait this should count as a mario game if mario is there
Shame there's no sonic advanced, I remember waterfalls causing annoyance to the characters
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