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@Reece Andrew well i would probably make a lot more sense if youtbe didn't delete half of the replies to me and my informative comments in response. but im sure your ego would disagree because its already created an opinion based on assumption and spite. whats the problem buddy?
I grew up in the closet. I never thought I'd see a world where I would see two grown men smile and cry over the beauty of the love between a same sex couple. So while I sit here and weep at the beauty of this episode, this story, I'm also weeping because the world has changed so much. And I wish Bill and Frank could have lived to see the world where they were free to be happy.
That final letter Bill writes to Joel with the lines about "one person worth saving and that's what he did" definitely sets things up for what's to come. love it
@Al As 57 no, honestly, the ending is just wrong. Like. There’s no moral grey area. Joel made the wrong choice, and he’s a monster for it. But because we’ve spent so much time with Ellie and care for her, it feels morally ambiguous to us.
@vault29a Played the game several times and I know what he said. Yeah, on a subjective level, Joel was making a selfish choice and was prioritizing Ellie's life over a potential cure for the world. However, I was referring to Marlene and the Firefly doctors' decision to go ahead and kill and dissect Ellie without getting any input from Ellie herself. Sure she probably would have volunteered, but I guess we'll never know because they didn't bother to let her wake up first. And yeah we can argue about the cure being too important to let one person's life get in the way, but let's be real, the idea that they would successfully produce a cure relies on an absurd amount of plot armor.
@QuantumAscension1 i mean joel saving ellie was never about the vaccine, he even told marlene to find someone else. He was ok with killing someone for the vaccine whom isnt HIS kid. Go play the game or smth.
This show is such an incredible gift. Game Bill was a warning to Joel about what happens when you shut everyone out, and TV Show Bill showed him what he could miss out on. Both function perfectly for the effect for their medium. The game version wouldn’t work even half as well if they’d tried to recreate it bar for bar in the show. I absolutely loved this episode and that we got to know Bill & Frank like this.
I love how we were introduced to Bill with closed/hidden doors and ended it with an open window due to the impact of Frank. Shows the 180 that Bill took on the outlook of life.
@Jalbesbe whether or not that was the case, it certainly had that effect. besides, not everything that can be read in between the lines is deliberate anyway. also, a little unrelated, but I've just started watching reactions to this show recently, and out of all fan communities, tlou fans seem to be less believing of theories related to the story-telling, less willing to read in between the lines. wanting more forward movement and less depth in story. this isn't a knock on you, it's just something i noticed. i wonder if it's zombie/apocalypse genre fans that think like this in general. wouldn't that be funny? if I'm right, then a lot of them would be like Bill before Frank
Sure you can look at it like that. Bit in the note it is clearly Bill just being over prepared for every circumstance. "Don't go into our room, I imagine it would be quite the sight. I left the window open so the place wouldn't smell." Even in his death he is preparing, preparing for people who he doesn't know would ever get to his place, mostly Joel
as soon as he said: "because it's my last day!" i had to pause it right there and get up to walk it off and prepare myself for the inevitable. as someone who has dealt with suicide in the family and deep depression this was a hard one to get through. thankfully they did a good job with it and it was worth sticking it out. i loved how even in his suicide letter he has that introverted sense of humor when he's talking to Joel. not a dry eye anywhere
I don’t know if people realize because of how much more open we are with gay love now but Bill lived in a small town as a gay man in 2003 when the world ended so the fact that he was able to find love and create a safe happy relationship during the end of the world is so telling. Bill probably thought the world was over already and everyone leaving was his only chance to be himself. This was so beautiful and I’m happy they made it so long 🥹
I know, I had my hand on the off button. I was just saying "This is perfect, stop zooming away from the window, STOP" and right when I was going to click the button it stopped and I just thought "Perfect, this episode alone deserves AWARDS" it was so well done, props to everyone involved.
I started crying at bills reaction to eating a strawberry and didn’t stop the entire episode. I watched this with the bros and not a single eye was dry
The fact that in their universe, gay marriage wasn't made legal before the pandemic began. Bill and Frank are so beautiful, and I will forever love this episode.
i saw some terrible comments about this episode elsewhere, and it made me so sad. but I'm glad so many of the people in the comments here share the same feelings i do about this episode. it was amazing. i don't cry often to shows or movies, but this was heartwrenching and beautiful and i absolutely loved it!
I find it so beautiful that what really made Bill and Frank fall for eachother wasn't the food or the hospitality, it was the piano that made each of them realize they had found their first real human connection in God knows how long, someone they can empathize with, someone they can trust. This whole episode was so moving.
Annie Wersching's passing was unexpected and saddening, Rest in peace and thank you Annie for all your work and the joy you brought to us through these mediums.
I was half expecting when Bill got shot that Frank would grab the first whiskey available and it's Lagavulin 16 and Bill gasps "no, anything but that."
@Isaac Mendes I’m just imagining one of the FEDRA comes evict him out of the town and he gives the solider a letter that said “I can do whatever I want” lolll
I’m being 100% serious, when we first saw Joel and Tess during the lunch party sequence, I thought “Woah! It’s Pedro Pascal from the Mandalorian!” I’d genuinely forgotten what show I was watching, it felt like an art house romance film. Blown away by what they managed to do in this episode.
Murray Bartlett and Nick Offerman were beautiful in this episode. Bill taught Frank how to survive and Frank taught Bill how to live. I love how the episode subverted the "Bury Your Gays" trope by actually giving life and agency to these characters. They had a long, happy life together and went out on their own terms. What more can anyone ask for? Thank you, Craig Mazin, Neil Druckmann and the whole team for killing it with every episode so far!
I felt that Bill and Frank were symbolic of the fact that despite all the bad out there after the outbreak, there was a little pocket of paradise just for those two.
Well said. I never even new it was a game until reading comments in reactions. So I am taking the show as I find it. I find it compelling story telling.
Nick Offerman showed phenomenal range in that episode, from the angry prepper uttering "Not today, you new world order jackboots" to that strawberry giggle.
I was SOBBING. This is the most pure form of love I’ve ever seen. I was so genuinely invested in their relationship. This is the hardest I’ve cried in a long time. I needed this lol
@Shaan Wayne You clearly haven’t experienced enough love in your life. It’s ok my dude. Maybe somebody will love you one day, and maybe one day you won’t be so hateful. But in my experience, you can’t have one without the other.
I was shocked they changed so much, would’ve loved to have seen Ellie & Bill go at each other... But Bill served his same purpose from the game. In the game he was an example for Joel how not to be, Bill was an uncaring loner and because of that was losing his mind, it was showing what could happen to Joel if he completely cut himself off from the world. In the show however, Bill is the opposite and is actually inspirational for Joel and shows him how he should be, I thought it was beautiful.
@romee renz deloso a lot of people fail to realized they have a budget for this show. The game can do whatever because it’s all animated, asking for an exact play by play of the show would be a tall order, especially since no one knew how big it would be.
@Corvid3314 We'll probably see her self-discovery later on. I mean she already hinted it. But I liked how they didnt connect Ellies internal struggles with Bill/Frank's relationship, because in the end, they're just a couple like any other.
@Mike S. that scene would have been great as well as it had the battle with the Bloater zombie., but I guess its impractical for the show, They'll be using alot of their funds if they adapted what happened in the game (you'll pay extra to have Pedro hang upside down, all the stunts, practical and visual effects would have shreded the budget of this season) also it indicates more visually appealing episodes are coming our way plusit was a well written and excellently acted episode
@曾華偉 everyone likes what they like. I honestly can’t pick between the two because to me both convey so much to the story and characters with both serving the same purpose but in such drastically different ways with bill as a character being one of the many things that sets Joel on his path.
If people get annoyed by the changes to the game I have a simple answer, just go play the game. This is an adaptation based on the game. It's faithful where it matters, but becomes something more when it's appropriate. This episode ripped my heart out, the performances were amazing and by the time the credits rolled i was left devastated but smiling and so excited to see what happens next. Outstanding 👏👏
In that world, Bill won the zombie apocalypse lottery. He died of old age with the man he loved. No one can really say that. Like Frank said, “it’s poignantly romantic”
This was the first time I feel I've ever seen a gay couple on screen that really REALLY made you feel as though those two people were falling in love and in love for life. No one else has hit that mark on screen for me. This episode was incredible. The writing and the actors. Incredible.
@slutpuppy meaning they look like people you actually see at the store or walking around in real life. While Brad Pitt is certainly normal for his life, most people I run into look more like these folks.
This episode broke me. I'm still broken 5 days later. I ugly snot cried. It's heartbreakingly beautiful. The writing, cinematography, music, ACTING. *chef's kiss "Frank was the flowers and Bill was the soil". In the end, Bill loved Frank like he wanted to be loved. ❤️
@כּוּשִׁי what??? You’re mad at things that don’t even exist. You live in a fantasy world that doesn’t even make sense!! Like how do they get aroused if they don’t know they’re spreading it? And it’s not a choice at all, please base your opinions on facts not feelings
It felt like game Bill never lowered his walls for Frank and this episode was a 'what if' if he had. So Bill goes from Joel's cautionary tale about what he could become if he stays closed off, in the show he's the hope of what he could be if he opens himself up. It's a beautiful parallel. It reminded me of the giraffe scene. Not just because of the music, but because it was a section amidst all the trauma where we could breathe and see something beautiful that reminds us why it's even worth it to try for a cure it to keep going. While it was definitely different from the game i fell like this was better. Bill was so bitter and hateful and most of that section of game was just combat to get from point a to b, to get a car battery. It wasn't story heavy. And while i love Bill and Ellie together I'd rather have this beautiful story than her calling him fat in 7 different ways. Stunning writing, cinematography and performances.
It’s nice to see writing that knows how teens act, speak. Everything Ellie says I could totally hear coming from my teen sibling in the same situation.
I love when TV can bring people together like this. It's a true testament to the quality of the show and this episode, that it can touch so many people in the same/similar ways
I ugly cried this whole episode man, I haven’t been that emotional watching something in quite awhile. I’ve played the game 6 times, and I absolutely am satisfied with the direction they went with this episode. Absolutely amazing
I don't play video games, but so far this is probably the best show HBO has ever done. This episode will win a lot of people a LOT of awards. Absolutely phenomenal.
Bill in the game is a perfect example of who Joel could be if he decides to shut himself off to the world and stay by himself. Bill in the show is a perfect example of who Joel would be if he decided to open himself up to love.
@TheTonytone77 its true, it is one of the strongest game plots of all time but you're watching a TV show, all good TV shows have world building, have romance plots, have filler episodes that flesh out side plots you are either media illiterate and dont understand stories, or you dont want to say "i hate gay people so i dont like the episode" and tbh, you can just be honest dude, cause if that wasnt the case you wouldnt be saying "cater to the gay community" about an episode loads of straight people liked.
@Not A Skaven ur missing the point ...there bigger better plot points that need time to breathe ...its world building via hints in a 9 episode season...thats something you do in a 16 to 24 episode season with 5 seasons to go....your grasping at straws ....the episode made no sense ...when theres bigger better plots to flush out in the story but we only have 9 episodes ....so they could cater to the gay community ....the plot of the sourse material is one of the strongest stories of all time ...and it doesnt have time to justify small sub plots that take up valuable time
@TheTonytone77 in the episode it showed how Joel could be if he chose to open himself up rather than being cold and closed off It also showed how Ellie was clever, the code she cracked about 80s music was set by these characters Ellie and Joel got a car out of it It did worldbuilding, and while it did advance the plot, which is a weird thing I keep seeing people say it didn't do, it also did a lot of worldbuilding, which is extremely important All in all this episode added context to the world that the game couldn't because it's a game, that's why you make stuff like this into a show, my only hope is thay they do more worldbuilding episodes, we all already know the plot, we all already played the game, if you want a linear rush through the story, just go play it tbh
As someone who is mad with the world and everyone like me and have passed years away from others, these episode hit me harder than thought it would be, I cried a lot, almost makes me think that maybe there could be something for me outside, someone who love
I loved the fact that when Frank and Bill were arguing about restoring the town, I pointed out how Frank looked identical to game-Joel, beard, shirt, everything. Then later on, sure enough, Joel grabs those exact clothes after his shower. Loved it.
I feel like the love story is so important, especially for a show like this, because sometimes it’s hard to understand why people keep going when the world has fallen apart like this. And of course Bill’s arc shows Joel what life can be-even in the worst of times-if he opens his heart up again. ❤ can’t wait for the next episode!
This is random but based off when you said "guess he and tess never really had a title" reminded me of when she tells him "I never asked you to feel the way I felt" when they find out she was bit. I get the sense that he did care for her but never wanted to say to her or anyone what she meant to him because it would mean it was real and he could lose her like he lost Sarah. Further cutting himself off as best he can
I was gonna type a whole block but I just have no words for how beautiful this episode was. my girl and I were basically sobbing watching this, she was like “ant why didn’t you warn me about this” I said “this is NOT how it went” but I am absolutely so happy with the changes they made
Thank you both for being so open to this story. I always appreciate how open Greg is with his emotions. This episode was beautiful and so was this reaction. 🙏🏻
When someone asked Neil Druckman if tlou would get a part 3, he said if there was a way to tell a story that revolved around love then he would do it. In the game you do not have the ability to see backstories about anyone except Joel. This is Neil finding another way to tell a story about love and it was beautiful. It may not be how it was in the game, but by every bit, it continues to keep the theme of tlou which is love.
@Red Sparrowdo you have any proof or anything for this? I listened to the podcast and Druckman seemed to be very on board with the changes and was praising the episode
Both the actors and the writers and director deserve some type of award for this episode. This is probably one of the best episodes of television I've ever seen in my life.
I've not felt this moved by media in years, if ever. This episode shook me to my core, I was stood up weeping/in shock at how much pain I was feeling. This episode is a truly incredible work of art.
There are plenty of other movies and shows that can get me to cry over characters but I've never encountered a show that can get me to cry SO QUICKLY. First with Sarah after less than 30 minutes with her and now with Bill & Frank.
I felt like Sarah was a character that pulled me in quickly. Knowing she was going to die ahead of time was like watching a calamity happen that you're powerless to stop. This episode though, not so much.
I've always enjoyed Nick Offerman very much. But I didn't know he had this caliber of acting in him, he was absolutely sensational beyond words. It may be completely different from the character of Bill, but seeing their life together was beautiful, romantic, tragic, all in one. Pedro and Bella continue to display amazing chemistry, cannot wait for next week.
The way I've described Offerman's performance in this episode is... he tells half the story with his eyes. He can be unmoving on screen and convey with the smallest gesture a longing, a loving, a fear. He was phenomenal!
He is so expressive but so subtle too. He completely blew me away. Call me uncultured, but I’ve only seen him in We’re The Millers 🫣 He is exceptional. Their love radiated through the screen.
From the first time I can remember seeing Nick Offerman, which was as George’s mom’s boyfriend on the George Lopez Show, I’ve been so drawn to him as a performer. The man can sell anything that needs to be sold. What a performer.
This episode hit EVERY emotional nerve possible. Being in a post apocalyptic world, yet Bill and Frank were able to find love within each other was beautiful. I was absolutely balling my EYES OUT during this episode. Loved every moment.
I also found out Annie Wersching passed away shortly after watching episode 3. I was heartbroken. I didn’t even know she was sick. Thank you for mentioning it and giving her some much deserved recognition.
Something else to think about with this. Gay marriage was never legalized in the universe because it happened in 2003. So Bill and Frank choosing to get married on their final day was also very touching. Their love is something they would have never had the chance to experience at that point
Yes!! That's why I cried as soon as he said "There is no girl," and Frank said "I know." 😭😭 I was thinking about how many queers had to stay closeted their entire lives, and how painful and psychically damaging that is. I think it's hard for zoomers to comprehend because they're seeing gay men making super bowl nachos on the Today Show with Al Roper like it's NBD... And it shouldn't be, but it is. The backlash to this episode shows us that it is still, sadly, a big deal.
@La Rochejaquelein I mean the U.S did not legalize gay marriage until 2015. I think we can assume the apocalypse made people less bigoted in terms of race, gender, or orientation because all that mattered was you were alive and human now
The fact that the writers and the actors have the ability to make you love and care deeply and then mourn for the characters, all within a 60 minute timeframe, is just genius. Excellent writing en superb acting overal. ( i ugly cried )
No tengo palabras suficientes para describir este episodio, solo puedo decir que es hermoso, conmovedor y con personajes que se cuidaban con mucha ternura 💗 😭
I swear the producers on this show know how to make a good episode because one minute I am fully indulged into Bill and Frank's relationship only to then have my heart ripped out right after...Dear God, if this broke me, I can't imagine when we meet Sam and Henry.
@KILL3R CLOWN I mean definitely. Bill didn't end up resentful and hateful and lonely. He found someone worth living and fighting for. And Frank had a happy and peaceful ending too.
I love the game. It’s perfect. His character will always be there in the game but this what we got in the show with the backstory and change in Bill/Franks storyline is so much better. Beautifully done. And so much more emotionally connecting.
I love this episode. Bill and Frank's story completely fit the narrative of "2 lost people who find each other" but painted in a more romantic way in comparison to Joel and Ellie's relationship.
This episode was stunning. The first two episodes were incredible and yet they somehow managed to top them and give us this beautiful story - a beginning, a middle and an end - all in one episode. And the pan to the open window at the end was the icing on the cake.
To take a side character with barely any backstory at all, to take little hints from the game and completely flush it out into a gut-wrenching and heartful story all in one episode while also serving the same impactful lesson as it did for Joel in the game was so cool. I haven't cried to anything in years but this one episode had me fucking sobbing
@vixxən must be deprived if you somehow picked out that he's gay unlike must people who assumed it was just his buddy he was with through the Apocalypse and besides it didn't matter at all given they both died and aren't relevant at all in the game...you telling me their sexuality has nothing to do with how they made a mini movie about characters who were only around for 30m.
They really chose the best story beats to give the spotlight! I LOVE Bill in the game and was so excited to meet him in the show (especially knowing the actor portraying) and the way they chose to turn it around made me fall in love with this version of Bill, also seeing the after credit scen and getting the reason why they chose to do it this way it made total sense! Also, it's a nice push for Joel to start opening up to Ellie and setting him on the path of accepting it
I was sad for a brief time when I realized Bill and Ellie weren’t going to get to meet in the show, but the direction they went in the show was perfect!
Bill and frank giggling over the strawberries was the sweetest part of the episode. Bill making Franks last meal the first meal they shared together was the most heartbreaking for me 😭 so good.
@Popinjayishuman the whole episode stood out for me. The amount of character development we got for Bill is astronomical compared to the game. This is my favorite episode yet. Such wonderful writing and acting.
I love the sound bill makes, It’s so real and I can picture times I’ve been in similar situations of being overwhelmed by emotion that you just make such uncharacteristic noises. It’s a weird thing to focus on maybe but it really stood out to me.
“Aw man, I wish I’d gotten to see Bill and Ellie meet each other” is a very real sort of grief, so even as they pulled out the rug of what I thought to expect, I feel like it still just deepened my own experience of the emotions this episode has on offer
The best part I think with this change is the fact we meet Frank. In the game we find his body after he hanged himself. I could not be happier with this version than the game version, it was SO amazingly well paced and the acting? my god don't even get me started on the acting. I loved the interaction between Ellie and Bill in the game, but this version legit made me much much more impressed with the writing and directing that I can't wait for the next episode!
You know how great this show is, this was the first time I can say I got emotional watching the life and romantic relationships between two men in Bill and Frank. I’m kinda glad they did a switch up from the game and gave us a deep backstory and view of Bill & Franks life through the years.
The fact that Frank stated that Bill is a coward in the game, but in Episode 3, Bill said that 'he was never afraid before Frank showed up' made it even sadder 😭💔
When Frank is telling Bill that he will fall asleep in his arms, and the camera pans over to Bill just balling his eyes out, reminded me a lot of Interstellar’s scene when Cooper was watching the videos and sees Murph as an adult. You felt all the weight of their pain.
It's an interesting contrast to start that flashback with the mother and her child that we're basically told were sent off to be summarily executed, and showing us the destruction of lives in this world from the outbreak, and then follow it with a story showing a man who's essentially thriving and getting to actually live after seemingly living within himself _until_ the outbreak.
@bostonbedlam she wasn't playing with it. she was curious about it, as a lot of kids would be, especially one who's immune and encountered one before. idk how you got serial killer vibes from her cutting its skin open to see what happens. weird take
That was strange. It’s like they only served to be a transition. I also felt it was strange that Ellie was playing with that stalker in the cellar/crawlspace before killing it. That implication lends too much to the idea Ellie can’t be trusted with a gun, because she comes off like a serial killer. That was just weird to me.
this episode took the full reigns of the show format by fleshing out two characters we barely see in the game while also continuing on the message; love can hurt but it ultimately makes your life fuller, and joel and ellie need to open themselves to eachother to live better lives.
Like you guys, I cried a lot in this episode because my mom has multiple demyelinating sclerosis and she tried to commit suicide twice, she is fine now and is contained but it was very hard for me but it must be more difficult for people who suffer from these disabling diseases which don't have cure and only they understand what it feels like to gradually lose their mobility and things that they could do before and no longer do, and in some cases gradually lose their cognitive functions when you have Alzheimer's or the beginning of it. Also understand that it is a personal decision, even though it hurts a lot, if the person decides to take their own life feeling that they lived a full life and the disease is taking away their identity. Something that happens in life and you don't hear much, I'm happy that they covered it on premium television.
The second you see the wheelchair I started crying, and didn't stop until the end. So beautiful! When Bill apologizes earlier for growing old faster than Frank, but he tells him he likes him older, then you see the reversal as Frank got sick, it was heartbreaking
This was amazing TV, one of the greatest TV episodes ever. And as adaptations go, its perfect. Its different but faithful to the character of the original whilst giving us something new, and something amazing. This is emotional and both tragic and beautiful. I cannot applaud the show enough for this.
This episode is a masterpiece. It just expanded the story fully. I dont want a 1-for-1 retelling of the game, I have the game for that. This just showed the differences in media and what film can do over gameplay.
I just binged the first 4 episodes today. I've never played the game but I kept seeing all the reactions to the show all over my KZclip homepage so I decided to give it a try. I'm so fucking happy I did because this show is probably the best new show I've seen this year. this episode in particular had me straight up bawling like a baby, from the moment we see Frank in that wheelchair 'til the end, but I was already tearing up from that moment at the piano. kudos to Nick Offerman and the actor who played Frank; they acted the shit out of this episode! I'm so excited to see where this show goes and look forward to seeing the non-gamer reaction after this one ❤
I love that they changed Frank from being infected to having ALS (or something like it). It gives his decision to die a new depth, and finds beauty even in tragedy. Was fully crying during this episode.
tuberculosis there are so, SO many instances of people on the internet crying snot about gay/lgbtq people saying straight people suck, or straight people do this or that. if you want your hunt to be easier, twitter and reddit are (obviously) the easiest places to find it.
tuberculosis and if it was a straight couple on screen and a gay person reacting that was disgusted by heterosexual sex scenes, you'd be crying like a baby screaming "prejudice! heterophobia!"
tuberculosis Wdym led nowhere? It was a complete story of a chatacter that we only shortly met in the game. We learned more about him than we learn about Joel in the game, along with learing a bit more about Joel himself.
an absolute joy seeing this be the norm and supported...and for the story to be a life of love surrounded by danger, walls and hiding..just like those who live this life have had to
This was beautiful.. I’m so glad they changed their relationship! So much more here, instead of just random scattered notes that hint at how unhappy Frank was before he died.
@pnut3844able Remember that little magazine ellie stole from bill which she later readed in the truck with joel? Guess what the magazine was about. Bill was anything but straight
I watch this show with my Girlfriend, and when that scene or montage came up when they were spending they’re last day together I was like Greg Balling my eyes out bruh 😂😂 Like the way the story was told and shot was so emotional like truly was a great episode.
I love how they Trojan Horsed a love story into the hearts of a whole group of people, who would have run a mile had they known....many man tears were shed this night...
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Personally this episode was boring and terrible.
@The Viewer pride goes before the fall
I appreciate the irony of Frank representing hard core gamers -“I do not support this… I should be furious… I admit it is very romantic.”
In my oppinion, Bill won the apocalypse. He went out old, and on his own terms with the person he loved. What more is there to life? Simply beautiful.
@ronin i am very confident that you want to do those things. Just give in. God doesnt exist. You wont get in trouble
@Reece Andrew well i would probably make a lot more sense if youtbe didn't delete half of the replies to me and my informative comments in response. but im sure your ego would disagree because its already created an opinion based on assumption and spite.
whats the problem buddy?
I grew up in the closet. I never thought I'd see a world where I would see two grown men smile and cry over the beauty of the love between a same sex couple. So while I sit here and weep at the beauty of this episode, this story, I'm also weeping because the world has changed so much. And I wish Bill and Frank could have lived to see the world where they were free to be happy.
Just watching straight men across KZclip react to this episode has made me so much more positive about this world. Beautifully crafted television.
@Shumayel Khan if only
This!!
@livetotell100 lol go off buddy. Let it aaaall out.
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That final letter Bill writes to Joel with the lines about "one person worth saving and that's what he did" definitely sets things up for what's to come. love it
@Al As 57 no, honestly, the ending is just wrong. Like. There’s no moral grey area. Joel made the wrong choice, and he’s a monster for it. But because we’ve spent so much time with Ellie and care for her, it feels morally ambiguous to us.
@vault29a Played the game several times and I know what he said. Yeah, on a subjective level, Joel was making a selfish choice and was prioritizing Ellie's life over a potential cure for the world.
However, I was referring to Marlene and the Firefly doctors' decision to go ahead and kill and dissect Ellie without getting any input from Ellie herself. Sure she probably would have volunteered, but I guess we'll never know because they didn't bother to let her wake up first. And yeah we can argue about the cure being too important to let one person's life get in the way, but let's be real, the idea that they would successfully produce a cure relies on an absurd amount of plot armor.
@QuantumAscension1 i mean joel saving ellie was never about the vaccine, he even told marlene to find someone else. He was ok with killing someone for the vaccine whom isnt HIS kid. Go play the game or smth.
This show is such an incredible gift. Game Bill was a warning to Joel about what happens when you shut everyone out, and TV Show Bill showed him what he could miss out on. Both function perfectly for the effect for their medium. The game version wouldn’t work even half as well if they’d tried to recreate it bar for bar in the show. I absolutely loved this episode and that we got to know Bill & Frank like this.
I love how we were introduced to Bill with closed/hidden doors and ended it with an open window due to the impact of Frank. Shows the 180 that Bill took on the outlook of life.
I also love that their last meal together was the same as their first meal together. Made me bawl my eyes out!
@Jalbesbe whether or not that was the case, it certainly had that effect. besides, not everything that can be read in between the lines is deliberate anyway.
also, a little unrelated, but I've just started watching reactions to this show recently, and out of all fan communities, tlou fans seem to be less believing of theories related to the story-telling, less willing to read in between the lines. wanting more forward movement and less depth in story. this isn't a knock on you, it's just something i noticed.
i wonder if it's zombie/apocalypse genre fans that think like this in general. wouldn't that be funny? if I'm right, then a lot of them would be like Bill before Frank
Sure you can look at it like that. Bit in the note it is clearly Bill just being over prepared for every circumstance. "Don't go into our room, I imagine it would be quite the sight. I left the window open so the place wouldn't smell." Even in his death he is preparing, preparing for people who he doesn't know would ever get to his place, mostly Joel
Good point
That’s such a good observation 🚪🪟
as soon as he said: "because it's my last day!" i had to pause it right there and get up to walk it off and prepare myself for the inevitable. as someone who has dealt with suicide in the family and deep depression this was a hard one to get through. thankfully they did a good job with it and it was worth sticking it out. i loved how even in his suicide letter he has that introverted sense of humor when he's talking to Joel. not a dry eye anywhere
I sobbed
Dude me too. Soon as he said that I started to lose it.
I don’t know if people realize because of how much more open we are with gay love now but Bill lived in a small town as a gay man in 2003 when the world ended so the fact that he was able to find love and create a safe happy relationship during the end of the world is so telling. Bill probably thought the world was over already and everyone leaving was his only chance to be himself. This was so beautiful and I’m happy they made it so long 🥹
I know it's not real, but I'm glad the show gave Bill and Frank respect by not showing them dead laying together
I know, I had my hand on the off button. I was just saying "This is perfect, stop zooming away from the window, STOP" and right when I was going to click the button it stopped and I just thought "Perfect, this episode alone deserves AWARDS" it was so well done, props to everyone involved.
At the end shot of the open window frame like a fairytale.
Instead we got the open window from the game menu😭😭😭
I thought the same. It would have been tasteless. Thought the ending they did was perfect.
I started crying at bills reaction to eating a strawberry and didn’t stop the entire episode. I watched this with the bros and not a single eye was dry
@Eli Noyes-Shepherd sameeeee idk why and the part where Frank was old and he was just painting in his wheelchair
same i don't know why started cry when they ate the strawberry.
@Josh lol cry about it, Ellie’s gay as well
@ImMrFootball mine's dry tho. that was the most disgusting episode so far than the clickers.
Anyone eyes who were dry during that episode ain’t got a heart😂
The fact that in their universe, gay marriage wasn't made legal before the pandemic began. Bill and Frank are so beautiful, and I will forever love this episode.
i saw some terrible comments about this episode elsewhere, and it made me so sad. but I'm glad so many of the people in the comments here share the same feelings i do about this episode. it was amazing. i don't cry often to shows or movies, but this was heartwrenching and beautiful and i absolutely loved it!
Yea Ben Shapiros comment section...
@El Bruce noooo please dont😭
I find it so beautiful that what really made Bill and Frank fall for eachother wasn't the food or the hospitality, it was the piano that made each of them realize they had found their first real human connection in God knows how long, someone they can empathize with, someone they can trust. This whole episode was so moving.
@OneHonestCritic not true lol
@OneHonestCritic I can't imagine being so upset that other people love eachother, I hope you can grow up someday.
Annie Wersching's passing was unexpected and saddening, Rest in peace and thank you Annie for all your work and the joy you brought to us through these mediums.
Rest in peace Annie 🕊️
“THE GOVERNMENT ARE ALL NAZIS” had me rolling lmao
I was half expecting when Bill got shot that Frank would grab the first whiskey available and it's Lagavulin 16 and Bill gasps "no, anything but that."
Based
From Florida, it's just true.
@Isaac Mendes I’m just imagining one of the FEDRA comes evict him out of the town and he gives the solider a letter that said “I can do whatever I want” lolll
Ron Swanson strikes back!!
As someone who never played the game this felt like a 90 min stand alone movie. Had my heart going the whole time, absolute masterpiece.
I’m being 100% serious, when we first saw Joel and Tess during the lunch party sequence, I thought “Woah! It’s Pedro Pascal from the Mandalorian!” I’d genuinely forgotten what show I was watching, it felt like an art house romance film. Blown away by what they managed to do in this episode.
Murray Bartlett and Nick Offerman were beautiful in this episode. Bill taught Frank how to survive and Frank taught Bill how to live. I love how the episode subverted the "Bury Your Gays" trope by actually giving life and agency to these characters. They had a long, happy life together and went out on their own terms. What more can anyone ask for? Thank you, Craig Mazin, Neil Druckmann and the whole team for killing it with every episode so far!
I felt that Bill and Frank were symbolic of the fact that despite all the bad out there after the outbreak, there was a little pocket of paradise just for those two.
@Josh lmao what’s gross
gross.
Well said.
I never even new it was a game until reading comments in reactions. So I am taking the show as I find it. I find it compelling story telling.
Nick Offerman showed phenomenal range in that episode, from the angry prepper uttering "Not today, you new world order jackboots" to that strawberry giggle.
I was SOBBING. This is the most pure form of love I’ve ever seen. I was so genuinely invested in their relationship. This is the hardest I’ve cried in a long time. I needed this lol
@Shaan Wayne You clearly haven’t experienced enough love in your life. It’s ok my dude. Maybe somebody will love you one day, and maybe one day you won’t be so hateful. But in my experience, you can’t have one without the other.
I was shocked they changed so much, would’ve loved to have seen Ellie & Bill go at each other... But Bill served his same purpose from the game. In the game he was an example for Joel how not to be, Bill was an uncaring loner and because of that was losing his mind, it was showing what could happen to Joel if he completely cut himself off from the world. In the show however, Bill is the opposite and is actually inspirational for Joel and shows him how he should be, I thought it was beautiful.
Still romanticized suicide tho
@romee renz deloso a lot of people fail to realized they have a budget for this show. The game can do whatever because it’s all animated, asking for an exact play by play of the show would be a tall order, especially since no one knew how big it would be.
@Corvid3314 We'll probably see her self-discovery later on. I mean she already hinted it. But I liked how they didnt connect Ellies internal struggles with Bill/Frank's relationship, because in the end, they're just a couple like any other.
@Mike S. that scene would have been great as well as it had the battle with the Bloater zombie., but I guess its impractical for the show, They'll be using alot of their funds if they adapted what happened in the game (you'll pay extra to have Pedro hang upside down, all the stunts, practical and visual effects would have shreded the budget of this season) also it indicates more visually appealing episodes are coming our way plusit was a well written and excellently acted episode
@曾華偉 everyone likes what they like. I honestly can’t pick between the two because to me both convey so much to the story and characters with both serving the same purpose but in such drastically different ways with bill as a character being one of the many things that sets Joel on his path.
If people get annoyed by the changes to the game I have a simple answer, just go play the game.
This is an adaptation based on the game. It's faithful where it matters, but becomes something more when it's appropriate.
This episode ripped my heart out, the performances were amazing and by the time the credits rolled i was left devastated but smiling and so excited to see what happens next. Outstanding 👏👏
Some of us didn't even know it was a game and are taking this one it's own merits.
In that world, Bill won the zombie apocalypse lottery. He died of old age with the man he loved. No one can really say that. Like Frank said, “it’s poignantly romantic”
This was the first time I feel I've ever seen a gay couple on screen that really REALLY made you feel as though those two people were falling in love and in love for life. No one else has hit that mark on screen for me. This episode was incredible. The writing and the actors. Incredible.
@slutpuppy seriously, you’re not contributing anything to the conversation
@theConquerersMama Brad Pitt isn't even good looking lol
@slutpuppy meaning they look like people you actually see at the store or walking around in real life. While Brad Pitt is certainly normal for his life, most people I run into look more like these folks.
@theConquerersMama "Normal looking" lol
It was so well done. I was thrilled that they are like people I know. Normal looking and over 35.
This was great on so many levels.
This episode broke me. I'm still broken 5 days later. I ugly snot cried. It's heartbreakingly beautiful. The writing, cinematography, music, ACTING. *chef's kiss
"Frank was the flowers and Bill was the soil". In the end, Bill loved Frank like he wanted to be loved. ❤️
We didn't need to know Bill and Franks story, most shows wouldn't have showed it and would be lesser for it. This episode was a masterpiece.
Even in a zombie apocalypse, all we really crave is human connection
@n0emiette 2023?should be 1943
@כּוּשִׁי what??? You’re mad at things that don’t even exist. You live in a fantasy world that doesn’t even make sense!! Like how do they get aroused if they don’t know they’re spreading it? And it’s not a choice at all, please base your opinions on facts not feelings
@Not A Skaven why not? social darwinism is the all the hype
It felt like game Bill never lowered his walls for Frank and this episode was a 'what if' if he had. So Bill goes from Joel's cautionary tale about what he could become if he stays closed off, in the show he's the hope of what he could be if he opens himself up. It's a beautiful parallel.
It reminded me of the giraffe scene. Not just because of the music, but because it was a section amidst all the trauma where we could breathe and see something beautiful that reminds us why it's even worth it to try for a cure it to keep going.
While it was definitely different from the game i fell like this was better. Bill was so bitter and hateful and most of that section of game was just combat to get from point a to b, to get a car battery. It wasn't story heavy. And while i love Bill and Ellie together I'd rather have this beautiful story than her calling him fat in 7 different ways. Stunning writing, cinematography and performances.
It’s nice to see writing that knows how teens act, speak. Everything Ellie says I could totally hear coming from my teen sibling in the same situation.
It is heart-warming to see these emotions that we are showing... collectively. I have never felt so close to people on the internet.
I love when TV can bring people together like this. It's a true testament to the quality of the show and this episode, that it can touch so many people in the same/similar ways
What
I ugly cried this whole episode man, I haven’t been that emotional watching something in quite awhile. I’ve played the game 6 times, and I absolutely am satisfied with the direction they went with this episode. Absolutely amazing
I don't play video games, but so far this is probably the best show HBO has ever done. This episode will win a lot of people a LOT of awards. Absolutely phenomenal.
@LeFlairon this person said the best show HBO has ever done not the best zombie Apocalypse show HBO has ever done.
@Layton not really comparable since it's not the same genre. Both great shows though.
Euphorias way better
Bill in the game is a perfect example of who Joel could be if he decides to shut himself off to the world and stay by himself. Bill in the show is a perfect example of who Joel would be if he decided to open himself up to love.
@Not A Skaven yeah whatever dude
@TheTonytone77 I mean, nice try I guess
@TheTonytone77 its true, it is one of the strongest game plots of all time
but you're watching a TV show, all good TV shows have world building, have romance plots, have filler episodes that flesh out side plots
you are either media illiterate and dont understand stories, or you dont want to say "i hate gay people so i dont like the episode" and tbh, you can just be honest dude, cause if that wasnt the case you wouldnt be saying "cater to the gay community" about an episode loads of straight people liked.
@Not A Skaven ur missing the point ...there bigger better plot points that need time to breathe ...its world building via hints in a 9 episode season...thats something you do in a 16 to 24 episode season with 5 seasons to go....your grasping at straws ....the episode made no sense ...when theres bigger better plots to flush out in the story but we only have 9 episodes ....so they could cater to the gay community ....the plot of the sourse material is one of the strongest stories of all time ...and it doesnt have time to justify small sub plots that take up valuable time
@TheTonytone77 in the episode it showed how Joel could be if he chose to open himself up rather than being cold and closed off
It also showed how Ellie was clever, the code she cracked about 80s music was set by these characters
Ellie and Joel got a car out of it
It did worldbuilding, and while it did advance the plot, which is a weird thing I keep seeing people say it didn't do, it also did a lot of worldbuilding, which is extremely important
All in all this episode added context to the world that the game couldn't because it's a game, that's why you make stuff like this into a show, my only hope is thay they do more worldbuilding episodes, we all already know the plot, we all already played the game, if you want a linear rush through the story, just go play it tbh
As someone who is mad with the world and everyone like me and have passed years away from others, these episode hit me harder than thought it would be, I cried a lot, almost makes me think that maybe there could be something for me outside, someone who love
This episode was literally devastating. A lot of shows try to be this emotionally compelling and it doesn't translate. This did.
I loved the fact that when Frank and Bill were arguing about restoring the town, I pointed out how Frank looked identical to game-Joel, beard, shirt, everything. Then later on, sure enough, Joel grabs those exact clothes after his shower. Loved it.
I feel like the love story is so important, especially for a show like this, because sometimes it’s hard to understand why people keep going when the world has fallen apart like this. And of course Bill’s arc shows Joel what life can be-even in the worst of times-if he opens his heart up again. ❤ can’t wait for the next episode!
This is random but based off when you said "guess he and tess never really had a title" reminded me of when she tells him "I never asked you to feel the way I felt" when they find out she was bit. I get the sense that he did care for her but never wanted to say to her or anyone what she meant to him because it would mean it was real and he could lose her like he lost Sarah. Further cutting himself off as best he can
I was gonna type a whole block but I just have no words for how beautiful this episode was. my girl and I were basically sobbing watching this, she was like “ant why didn’t you warn me about this” I said “this is NOT how it went” but I am absolutely so happy with the changes they made
@Jose Inostros I know he looked so lost and childlike it wrecked me
Same bro me and my girl too😂
Gay
Me soaking up my boyfriend’s shirt 😩
Thank you both for being so open to this story. I always appreciate how open Greg is with his emotions. This episode was beautiful and so was this reaction. 🙏🏻
When someone asked Neil Druckman if tlou would get a part 3, he said if there was a way to tell a story that revolved around love then he would do it. In the game you do not have the ability to see backstories about anyone except Joel. This is Neil finding another way to tell a story about love and it was beautiful. It may not be how it was in the game, but by every bit, it continues to keep the theme of tlou which is love.
@Red Sparrowdo you have any proof or anything for this? I listened to the podcast and Druckman seemed to be very on board with the changes and was praising the episode
This episode was actually written by Craig Mazin, and Druckman was initially opposed to the change.
Both the actors and the writers and director deserve some type of award for this episode. This is probably one of the best episodes of television I've ever seen in my life.
I've not felt this moved by media in years, if ever. This episode shook me to my core, I was stood up weeping/in shock at how much pain I was feeling. This episode is a truly incredible work of art.
There are plenty of other movies and shows that can get me to cry over characters but I've never encountered a show that can get me to cry SO QUICKLY. First with Sarah after less than 30 minutes with her and now with Bill & Frank.
@Albel Valentine because I don't cry a lot
Same
I felt like Sarah was a character that pulled me in quickly. Knowing she was going to die ahead of time was like watching a calamity happen that you're powerless to stop. This episode though, not so much.
@Layton sad life you must have
You cry very easily
I've always enjoyed Nick Offerman very much. But I didn't know he had this caliber of acting in him, he was absolutely sensational beyond words. It may be completely different from the character of Bill, but seeing their life together was beautiful, romantic, tragic, all in one. Pedro and Bella continue to display amazing chemistry, cannot wait for next week.
The way I've described Offerman's performance in this episode is... he tells half the story with his eyes. He can be unmoving on screen and convey with the smallest gesture a longing, a loving, a fear. He was phenomenal!
I'm just here to second Devs
He is so expressive but so subtle too. He completely blew me away. Call me uncultured, but I’ve only seen him in We’re The Millers 🫣 He is exceptional. Their love radiated through the screen.
From the first time I can remember seeing Nick Offerman, which was as George’s mom’s boyfriend on the George Lopez Show, I’ve been so drawn to him as a performer. The man can sell anything that needs to be sold. What a performer.
There, 560... That 559 was bothering me.
Bill leaving everything they had to Joel for him and Tess to live there and stay safe literally broke my heart.
God damn it me and my boyfriend held each other crying this episode. It was amazingly filmed
This episode hit EVERY emotional nerve possible. Being in a post apocalyptic world, yet Bill and Frank were able to find love within each other was beautiful. I was absolutely balling my EYES OUT during this episode. Loved every moment.
I always can count on Greg to share my same reactions. I was crying every 10 minutes since the piano scene. Like damn... PERFECT casting from day 1.
I also found out Annie Wersching passed away shortly after watching episode 3. I was heartbroken. I didn’t even know she was sick.
Thank you for mentioning it and giving her some much deserved recognition.
Something else to think about with this. Gay marriage was never legalized in the universe because it happened in 2003. So Bill and Frank choosing to get married on their final day was also very touching. Their love is something they would have never had the chance to experience at that point
Yes!! That's why I cried as soon as he said "There is no girl," and Frank said "I know." 😭😭 I was thinking about how many queers had to stay closeted their entire lives, and how painful and psychically damaging that is. I think it's hard for zoomers to comprehend because they're seeing gay men making super bowl nachos on the Today Show with Al Roper like it's NBD... And it shouldn't be, but it is. The backlash to this episode shows us that it is still, sadly, a big deal.
@S7Robin In that world that old macho joke "all the more women for the rest of us, hyurr hyurr" would actually ring truer than ever.
@La Rochejaquelein I mean the U.S did not legalize gay marriage until 2015. I think we can assume the apocalypse made people less bigoted in terms of race, gender, or orientation because all that mattered was you were alive and human now
Bill and Frank beat the apocalypse. They went out happy, in love, fulfilled, and on their own terms.
I didn’t want it to end!! Authenticity, beauty, and devastation all in one episode.
The fact that the writers and the actors have the ability to make you love and care deeply and then mourn for the characters, all within a 60 minute timeframe, is just genius. Excellent writing en superb acting overal. ( i ugly cried )
No tengo palabras suficientes para describir este episodio, solo puedo decir que es hermoso, conmovedor y con personajes que se cuidaban con mucha ternura 💗 😭
perfectamente dicho
I swear the producers on this show know how to make a good episode because one minute I am fully indulged into Bill and Frank's relationship only to then have my heart ripped out right after...Dear God, if this broke me, I can't imagine when we meet Sam and Henry.
@KILL3R CLOWN I mean definitely. Bill didn't end up resentful and hateful and lonely. He found someone worth living and fighting for. And Frank had a happy and peaceful ending too.
@Stephanie Reyes to me this is better than the game.
@Layton just wait til you find out about the other gay characters in the show. This episode was excellent.
@xKaedos this episode was fruity
So much love in this episode. A lesson to us all.
Probably one of the coolest genuine episodes in a post apocalyptic scenario I have ever seen! Kudos to the writers!
I love the game. It’s perfect. His character will always be there in the game but this what we got in the show with the backstory and change in Bill/Franks storyline is so much better. Beautifully done. And so much more emotionally connecting.
I love this episode. Bill and Frank's story completely fit the narrative of "2 lost people who find each other" but painted in a more romantic way in comparison to Joel and Ellie's relationship.
This episode was stunning. The first two episodes were incredible and yet they somehow managed to top them and give us this beautiful story - a beginning, a middle and an end - all in one episode. And the pan to the open window at the end was the icing on the cake.
To take a side character with barely any backstory at all, to take little hints from the game and completely flush it out into a gut-wrenching and heartful story all in one episode while also serving the same impactful lesson as it did for Joel in the game was so cool. I haven't cried to anything in years but this one episode had me fucking sobbing
@vixxən what is a DL my little marshmallow
@Layton like i said, cry about it, DL man, there's no point in telling you the truth since u wonr accept it lmao.
@vixxən must be deprived if you somehow picked out that he's gay unlike must people who assumed it was just his buddy he was with through the Apocalypse and besides it didn't matter at all given they both died and aren't relevant at all in the game...you telling me their sexuality has nothing to do with how they made a mini movie about characters who were only around for 30m.
@Predator H2O sigh
@Layton You mean *love* ?
Not ashamed to admit I straight up ugly cried while watching this beautiful episode. Love like that is something most of us dream we can have..
One of the absolutely best episodes of any show I’ve ever watched
They really chose the best story beats to give the spotlight! I LOVE Bill in the game and was so excited to meet him in the show (especially knowing the actor portraying) and the way they chose to turn it around made me fall in love with this version of Bill, also seeing the after credit scen and getting the reason why they chose to do it this way it made total sense!
Also, it's a nice push for Joel to start opening up to Ellie and setting him on the path of accepting it
I loved this more then the game, Franks letter to bill in the game broke my heart
I was sad for a brief time when I realized Bill and Ellie weren’t going to get to meet in the show, but the direction they went in the show was perfect!
Bill and frank giggling over the strawberries was the sweetest part of the episode. Bill making Franks last meal the first meal they shared together was the most heartbreaking for me 😭 so good.
@Popinjayishuman the whole episode stood out for me. The amount of character development we got for Bill is astronomical compared to the game. This is my favorite episode yet. Such wonderful writing and acting.
@John Smith shit was so rough I was straight up sobbing
I love the sound bill makes, It’s so real and I can picture times I’ve been in similar situations of being overwhelmed by emotion that you just make such uncharacteristic noises. It’s a weird thing to focus on maybe but it really stood out to me.
It made me break down in tears for Which I don’t ever do
One of the most intimate stories I’ve ever watched. Seeing their first dinner and last together.. this was some REAL SHIT
As much as I love the game I love this version of the Bill and Frank part so so much more. It's a nice glimmer of hope in such a sad world.
“Aw man, I wish I’d gotten to see Bill and Ellie meet each other” is a very real sort of grief, so even as they pulled out the rug of what I thought to expect, I feel like it still just deepened my own experience of the emotions this episode has on offer
This is an episode of television that I'll remember like it was a feature film.
The best part I think with this change is the fact we meet Frank. In the game we find his body after he hanged himself. I could not be happier with this version than the game version, it was SO amazingly well paced and the acting? my god don't even get me started on the acting. I loved the interaction between Ellie and Bill in the game, but this version legit made me much much more impressed with the writing and directing that I can't wait for the next episode!
I never cry at movies or shows - and I would like to report that I cried for about 15 minutes straight. Absolutely amazing episode
@David Westerberg that's crazy a grown man at that too
I never cried at any movie but this episode was the only one that made me shed a tear , even tho I never even played or seen the game
Can't remember the last time I cried at anything- last night I cried like a baby watching this.
You shouldn't cut onions while watching tv
I’ve seen this ep at least a dozen times, and I still tear up
You know how great this show is, this was the first time I can say I got emotional watching the life and romantic relationships between two men in Bill and Frank. I’m kinda glad they did a switch up from the game and gave us a deep backstory and view of Bill & Franks life through the years.
The fact that Frank stated that Bill is a coward in the game, but in Episode 3, Bill said that 'he was never afraid before Frank showed up' made it even sadder 😭💔
When Frank is telling Bill that he will fall asleep in his arms, and the camera pans over to Bill just balling his eyes out, reminded me a lot of Interstellar’s scene when Cooper was watching the videos and sees Murph as an adult. You felt all the weight of their pain.
Im so happy that Bill and Frank got a happy ending..growing old together is such a pure form of love.
It's an interesting contrast to start that flashback with the mother and her child that we're basically told were sent off to be summarily executed, and showing us the destruction of lives in this world from the outbreak, and then follow it with a story showing a man who's essentially thriving and getting to actually live after seemingly living within himself _until_ the outbreak.
@Sonny Ankau Well, in part 2 she basically is a serial killer. And they are building on that for the second season.
@bostonbedlam she wasn't playing with it. she was curious about it, as a lot of kids would be, especially one who's immune and encountered one before. idk how you got serial killer vibes from her cutting its skin open to see what happens. weird take
That was strange. It’s like they only served to be a transition. I also felt it was strange that Ellie was playing with that stalker in the cellar/crawlspace before killing it. That implication lends too much to the idea Ellie can’t be trusted with a gun, because she comes off like a serial killer. That was just weird to me.
this episode took the full reigns of the show format by fleshing out two characters we barely see in the game while also continuing on the message; love can hurt but it ultimately makes your life fuller, and joel and ellie need to open themselves to eachother to live better lives.
Like you guys, I cried a lot in this episode because my mom has multiple demyelinating sclerosis and she tried to commit suicide twice, she is fine now and is contained but it was very hard for me but it must be more difficult for people who suffer from these disabling diseases which don't have cure and only they understand what it feels like to gradually lose their mobility and things that they could do before and no longer do, and in some cases gradually lose their cognitive functions when you have Alzheimer's or the beginning of it. Also understand that it is a personal decision, even though it hurts a lot, if the person decides to take their own life feeling that they lived a full life and the disease is taking away their identity. Something that happens in life and you don't hear much, I'm happy that they covered it on premium television.
When Bill starts crying I couldn’t help but cry with him goddamn this episode broke me
This is how you´re supposed to write a completely new angle to a story and respect the original characters at the same time 😄
3 episodes in and this is what they're giving us ? Can only imagine how much better this series can get.
The second you see the wheelchair I started crying, and didn't stop until the end. So beautiful! When Bill apologizes earlier for growing old faster than Frank, but he tells him he likes him older, then you see the reversal as Frank got sick, it was heartbreaking
I heard this episode was sad, but wow I absolutely sobbed. Such a beautiful story that I wasn't expecting from a video game adaptation
This was amazing TV, one of the greatest TV episodes ever. And as adaptations go, its perfect. Its different but faithful to the character of the original whilst giving us something new, and something amazing. This is emotional and both tragic and beautiful. I cannot applaud the show enough for this.
This episode is a masterpiece. It just expanded the story fully. I dont want a 1-for-1 retelling of the game, I have the game for that. This just showed the differences in media and what film can do over gameplay.
The game did bills story amazingly, but this show added so much depth and love to his character. It was perfect
I just binged the first 4 episodes today. I've never played the game but I kept seeing all the reactions to the show all over my KZclip homepage so I decided to give it a try. I'm so fucking happy I did because this show is probably the best new show I've seen this year. this episode in particular had me straight up bawling like a baby, from the moment we see Frank in that wheelchair 'til the end, but I was already tearing up from that moment at the piano. kudos to Nick Offerman and the actor who played Frank; they acted the shit out of this episode! I'm so excited to see where this show goes and look forward to seeing the non-gamer reaction after this one ❤
I love that they changed Frank from being infected to having ALS (or something like it). It gives his decision to die a new depth, and finds beauty even in tragedy. Was fully crying during this episode.
tuberculosis there are so, SO many instances of people on the internet crying snot about gay/lgbtq people saying straight people suck, or straight people do this or that. if you want your hunt to be easier, twitter and reddit are (obviously) the easiest places to find it.
tuberculosis and if it was a straight couple on screen and a gay person reacting that was disgusted by heterosexual sex scenes, you'd be crying like a baby screaming "prejudice! heterophobia!"
@Layton even numbers (except for 7) are more aesthetically pleasing
tuberculosis Wdym led nowhere? It was a complete story of a chatacter that we only shortly met in the game. We learned more about him than we learn about Joel in the game, along with learing a bit more about Joel himself.
tuberculosis Tell that to the reactors in the video who are also straight.
an absolute joy seeing this be the norm and supported...and for the story to be a life of love surrounded by danger, walls and hiding..just like those who live this life have had to
god this episode was by FAR the best. absolutely loved the way they changed bills story w frank. i just loved every second, so sweet but sad
This was beautiful..
I’m so glad they changed their relationship! So much more here, instead of just random scattered notes that hint at how unhappy Frank was before he died.
This episode show us how beautiful love is, even in zombie apocalypse. All of us always need someone to love, to protect, to care about.
As someone who never played this game and heard rumors that this episode would be great, I am still wiping my tears away. This was beautiful.
@Ragnarök based
@כּוּשִׁי No what?
@What The Hexadecimal NO
@pnut3844able Remember that little magazine ellie stole from bill which she later readed in the truck with joel? Guess what the magazine was about. Bill was anything but straight
this episode was a perfect episode. In every single way.
I watch this show with my Girlfriend, and when that scene or montage came up when they were spending they’re last day together I was like Greg Balling my eyes out bruh 😂😂 Like the way the story was told and shot was so emotional like truly was a great episode.
This show keeps getting better and better! I don’t want it to end! 🍓🍓🍓
I love how they Trojan Horsed a love story into the hearts of a whole group of people, who would have run a mile had they known....many man tears were shed this night...