This is why I love the internet. An interview where a question is asked and the response is allowed in completeness, uninterrupted. As opposed to mass media and a 30 second response time, which when entering innovative ideas, 30 seconds is certainly not possible, not only not possible, but make the response "crazy" in the minds of the surface idea idiots. Thus we learning nothing in an accusatory, fast response environment, and the same old ideas remain seemingly as the only "sane" answer.....stagnation is the result.
It is genuinely amazing how much more quickly Jordan's mind runs compared to mine. Having this variety of vocabulary and being able to articulate at this rate of speed is entertaining in itself.
@choblgobblrr A valid critique would involved reference to something specific. So of course you said nothing of the sort. You immediately resorted to ad hominem insults. We heard him, and we read what you have to say. How many, do you suppose, found what you said more compelling? My guess is, very close to zero percent.
It was and always will be, basically all war is begin when the conceptual dispute doesn't come to a point respected by all parties involved. This is something people keep underplay, like saying they hate people who talk too much or the phrase no action talk only, which undermine the importance of talking which is the basis of thinking. Action when not going through rigorous process of thinking will always be dangerous, but the world keep on forget it like they forget what they ate last week.
Such a beautiful discourse from both ends and such a privilege to experience this through internet sitting in my bedroom in the small town of India. Dr. Peterson level of articulation is off the charts.
did you notice that he talks about what always has been while the thing that has changed through out humanity is inventions and their value. what i find interesting is usually the copyright is given a longer time than the patent. i atribute this to the fact that wordsmiths make the laws.
This lecture wasn't long enough. He had some excellent questions and had the time to actually articulate answers without interruption. Could have easily had 3 hours. This lecture shows, as Jordan expressed, that these older universities, where people value their place, hold much more respect for the value of academia, and open honest discussion. Such values should be reinforced in the weider world.
I have to express tremendous admiration for these young people and the absolutely thoughtful questions that they were able to formulate. While it's not possible to know whether they did so prior to the discussion or on the fly, the intelligence exhibited is absolutely inspiring. We are so used to seeing and hearing thoughtless nonsense foaming from the mouths of so-called students that it's easy to forget that there are young people in the world who can actually lead us away from chaos and destruction.
not likely to lead away from chaos at all. the harder one trys to avoid chaos only gives it more power when the outburst comes. the biggest changes in humans lives are brought by inventions of engineers not by feelings. the chaos brought by social media on the internet is just a example of this. the beauty of the internet is how quickly a lie can be pointed out not that it prevents lies.
Love the way he responded to the older lady, who didn't really have a question - she just wanted to make a statement. He looked straight at her, and then expanded on what she was saying, making her feel valued and respected for her comments. And he would have carried on talking to her, if the guy introducing him hadn't moved on to someone else. How often do you see that - someone so respectful and careful with other people's dignity. That shows nobility of character, and humility. A whole lesson in itself.
I was thinking the same thing. what an inspiration. Where most people would have tut tut their finger that she was 'meant' to ask a question. took what she spoke about and then it didnt matter if there was a question. I also absolutely love how he, when aske about Turdeau. Rather than launch into a very understandable tirade, everyone was expecting it. he paused to think and actually answered the question by thinking about what she asked him and gave her his top two questions. .. He's amazing.
Jordan Peterson, as far as I'm concerned, is (and always will be) the king of the north. I'm so excited to see him next year. I signed up for a 'meet and greet" and I'm afraid I'll get emotional because he's changed my life so much. As a disabled veteran, I can't thank him enough.
@Rainbow Chateau Jordan Petersons 12 rules for life most certainly had the most impact on me. You have to start from the ground up and go through discomfort to move forward. Getting up early, making my bed every morning and keeping my personal space clean, tidy and organised was a good foundation. I then started doing push ups every day as exercise, and then cold showers, cold showers had a massive impact on me after a few weeks, it taught me to go through discomfort, and then other little steps which became easier and easier. It is very important to not just make little improvements but to remain consistent with them everyday after a while many good and positive habits will compound over weeks and months and will build into much bigger positive things in your life. I now wake up at 6.30 am most mornings without an alarm, my home is spotless and organised, I wild swim every morning workout 3 times a week, read one book a week, with all this on point work and grinding towards my goals is easy, I do have short lapses where I put things off to the next day, but if I try and do that I have my own mental prosses to just do NOW, just don't put things off, just do them now. 12 rules for life helped me immensely on my journey and pointed me in the right direction but bottom line it's your journey and you have to take action yourself, if you can't help yourself then no one will. Look in the mirror and ask your self is this a reason why I can't do something or just an excuse, bottom line you have to take action and be happy being uncomfortable at the start. Hope this helps
I met Jordan Peterson at the Apollo in London and spoke with him one on one for a few minutes not just in the met and great but while I was in the line outside he must of spoken to a good hundred people in the line before he was called inside, he is a very genuine kind person with an amazing sense of humour but also an immense intellect equalled only by his compassion and care for others. I spoke with him about how his books and online talks helped me with my procrastination and his response and attention to me in our brief chat was just amazing. He is a wonderful human being who deeply cares about people and possesses so much integrity, but his intellect is off the map and I have no doubt he will be spoken of in the centuries to come as one of the greatest minds of our age.
Jordan Peterson is probably in my top three most favorite public figures alive today. He is like a walking encyclopedia that has the capability to digest and generate so many critical thoughts in a way that you can understand them. It’s extremely impressive
@Different Pound That's a good question. And as the interview goes on, despite "pushing back", Peterson so far has been giving Netanyahu a platform to make a speech. He has questioned some things, but basically, it's been softball. Even when Netanyahu has out & out lied, Jordan didn't call him out on those.
I wish someone would give Dr. Peterson an award for honesty, forthrightness, and integrity. He makes his points with specific examples and nails the idiocy of political correctness to the door. Bravo, sir. You have my undying respect.
@mattia2ino Since I saw this video I have seen others, particularly one in which he is talking about Canadian law firms, and I have to admit, his point about men being more willing to pursue the highest positions is a good one. I still disagree with some things he says but, more and more I am finding myself agreeing with a lot of it.
@Nick Saunders I don’t think he ignores the role of socialisation, in fact he said on multiple occasions that the differences in the ability to negotiate between men and women are higher in those countries where little boys and girls are socialised in the same way, without gender prejudices about how a boy should behave and how a girl should behave
@andy halstead In general, I agree with him on that. He might not have said it in this video, but I have watched interviews of his where he specifically mentioned women earning less because they do not negotiate as well as men.
I love this man and the deeper meanings he manifests based on true identification of the problems, not leaving things in fog or justifying emotional doctrines. JP is brilliant.
Dr. Petersen needs a nobel prize if such is available for his discipline in psychotherapy analysis because of his knowledge in this discipline. How human's minds work AND his knowledge of the way society works within groups together with his excellent use of words and English language makes him a force to reckon with and such a wonderful work of art of combining differemt elements to give us the whole picture! Bravo Dr. Petersen. You are truly a gift to all in this time where everything note worthy psychologically speaking has become so disjointed that socities are literally falling apart. Higher education has failed due to infiltrations of those who seek to control and not teach, listen, discuss, debate and learn. God bless you and the efforts you put into teaching millions of us through these talks on how exactly we humans work. You are the human operating system step by step, guide book!
I've honestly seen the KKK the exercising their right disassembly, the crowd was heated up and black police officers defended the KKK because they were upholding their first amendment right.
I like this quote a lot and I am all for free speech, however I disagree with the pain part, speaking freely and having disagreements causes pain in one or both parties
I'm speechless. This gentleman presented a view of the world that is more insightful, honest, mature, healing and full of potential for a more harmonious society than any I've heard in a very long time. His intellect is very high yet he distills it down so it can be understood.
I’ve said it before and I’m going today it again, I pray that these youngsters are aware of just how fortunate and Blessed they are to have this Man in their midst and are able to learn something from him.
This man is not only über intelligent- but he is also a very heartfelt man. What I enjoy about Dr P is this: what he speaks of is actual common sense (which is very lost in our world). The way he delivers this is highly intellectual. J’adore.
The section of this Q&A breaking down the definitions and regulation of free speech is so unbelievably concise that I'm not sure it can ever be articulated un a better way. Dr. Peterson's position on what to do and why is spot on.... you cannot restrict free speech in 99.9% of scenarios without amplifying the worst possible consequence.
The young British/Asian gentleman in the glasses asked a pointed, well articulated question. Peterson answered him with a well formulated response. The young man received the answer favorably. This is an example of good and constructive dialogue in action. Something you RARELY see in the media.
@kantraxo ikol "That kid was so far beyond everyone else, including Dr Jordan Peterson"? Think you are probably getting carried away. The art of discourse which includes Q&As at end of discussions, I always thought, was not to be longwinded and 'off on yer own planet' as to cause the rest of the audience to yawn and wonder why one questioner is selfishly monopolising all the Q&A time when others want to get a question in too. But, we have to agree the questioner from Hong Kong did evince an air of 'beyond' as you put it.🙂
that kid was so far beyond everyone else , INCLUDING JP, who looked at this kid with equal amazment.... that i almost think he was a plant ...jeez, that kid is going places if he just shot the question off his hip like we saw here...
@rajeev paltrow 'Chinese looking' you mean? He could have been of Mongolian heritage or other South East Asian Oriental familial heritage. Though, one admits, he certainly 'looked' Chinese. Let's remember overseas students are a lucrative cash-cow to UK universities who pay more, than so-called indigenous students, to study in the UK. Another question would be will he and ilk have to return to China's Hong Kong after his studies?
We’ve never met but you have done so much to improve my life Dr. Jordan Peterson. All by nothing more than coincidence, you were there when I looked for understanding. Thank you. Your greatly appreciated.
Q and A sessions was fantastic, the exchange between the Asian student and Jordan Peterson was really one of the best examples I’ve seen of effectively reaching a common ground of mutual understanding regarding a contentious topic or issue. Hats off the the student for his articulation and open mindedness.
Especially a Canadian university professor. I've attended 3 universities in Canada, and the extent of most professors' philosophical/political/societal insight is "orange man bad"
That was when the woke moralists realized that this man is one of the most educated and experienced person in his field. Interesting address and very professional Q&A session.
I am so impressed not only by Peterson’s ability to communicate so clearly and passionately but by the breadth of his reading and understanding of his field.
He has it all. Good looks, humor, brilliance, morality, and he still makes laugh with a good sense of humor. Oh, yeah. He doesn’t take himself too seriously. Awesome answers. Awesome man
I could live 5 life times and never be able to fully understand his level of articulation. Absolutely brilliant beyond anything I am able to comprehend. Goodluck sir
@Adam Smith Based on the comments I've seen, people don't seem to know what JP is talking about. Some interpreted the remark as meaning literally a living thing must physically move forwards (a somewhat ridiculous interpretation); others I've seen think he is referring to evolution; others think he is talking about progress towards a goal. May be there are still other interpretations.
JP is a charlatan. The problem is people lack the education to see it. You said in an earlier comment you didn't understand anything he is saying. That's because you presume he is saying something non obvious and because JP is in fact saying only the obvious you don't get it. It's all empty verbiage. His opening remark is a classic. He says "complex biological creatures must move forward". This is classic JP. It's a terrible sentence because it's so vague nobody knows what he is talking about. When you try and work out what he is trying to say he appears to be stating the obvious. At which point it becomes embarrassing. It amazes me people don't see through it. Even those with little education.
Mr. Jordan is one of the best men alive today. I'm extremely grateful to listen to his talks and that he is willing to share his knowledge. My life is changing dramatically since I started listening to him. Great, great man!
This is where KZclip and social media platforms can be a blessing. To be able to watch Jordan Peterson speak at such a prominent venue among the world's future thinkers. I am grateful for having stumbled upon this.
I was just thinking that if there is anything to take away from some of the freethinkers on youtube like Peterson, it's that all of his content has taught people how not only how to articulate their thoughts better, but also why it's so important to do so. Really grateful for Peterson and his work.
You don't need an exclusive education to be a thinker and have the ability to listen. It also depends on the quality of the ability which tends to be independent of education but can be enhanced by education.
Part 1: Hierarchy and its political significance Introduction 0:55 1. Value 1:52 2. Hierarchy 4:57 3. Inequality 6:03 4. Politics 6:46 Personality 8:24 Necessity of both 9:41 Summary 10:22 Part 2: Questions Q#1: Rejecting Political correctness 11:47 Q#2: Truth and Post-Modernism 18:59 Q#3: The source of meaning 28:43 Q#4: limitless questioning 39:06 Q#5 43:07 Q#6 51:47 Q#7 1:04:38 Q#8 1:09:13
We need people like this who make us think about ourselves in relation to others. I have found life is richer when you help others who are less rich in many ways to understand what is meant by rich.
Well, I have to say that was one of the most interesting Q&A's I've seen for a while. I'm afraid I was not able to keep up with him, intellectually, all the way through but I tried my best. His command of language, use of precise vocabulary was outstanding, his sharp mind etc etc., was above and beyond. In many ways he reminded me a little of the late Christopher Hitchens. What a refreshing voice to hear. Thank you Dr Peterson.
He’s an astounding debater/arguer. Would’ve made a scary ass trial attorney. We have a lot of exposure to him in the US. He seems like a really decent fellow. From time to time he runs out of his lane which may be why he annoys people sometimes. But I could never question his sincerity. If he could lose his Canadian accent he would be perfect. (Just kidding. We love our Canadian neighbors.) 🇺🇸🇨🇦
No denunciations, no placards, no strops or walkouts. Just an excellent discussion, respectful and intelligent, from the speaker and from the audience. That's how it should be done.
@Jacqueline Leitch Thanks for the reply. I don't accept that feminism can be "oppressed". You can't oppress a set of ideas. You can oppress feminist intellectuals, sure. But not by disagreeing with them, nor by disparaging their worldview. That's isn't oppression. What's happening in Ukraine - that's oppression. Defending the concept of hierarchy... not so much. As for your views on Peterson, I'll leave you to them. I'm sure you arrived at them after much consideration, and I have no desire to try and divest you of them. I don't share them, but that's neither here nor there. Best wishes.
@Goofy GrandLouis You still get religious fundamentalists though and that is the most terrifying part. You either have the radical left (wokeism) or the radical right (religious zealotry) and the amount of people in between shrinks by the day.
I never listen to podcasts or talks. I think it just feels incredibly cheesy to do so. But watching Jordan's talks and listening to his podcasts just feels like a constant feed of learning going straight into my brain. It's incredible.
The most important thinker of the modern age. Bar none. Dr Peterson may be the one person who can pull us back from the precipice of absolute RUIN we find ourselves on. God bless him ❤
My goodness he is balanced, analytical, sensitive, non judgmental, perceptive and has so many other worthy attributes. How different he is to the students rolling their eyes at his intellect unable to process his intelligent thoughts with their ideological mindset injected into them by these universities.
I cannot bring myself to understand why some people hate this man.His pure brilliance beyond ordinary. His ability to articulate his thoughts is another level.
I think some people find some things he says offensive and I don’t always agree with him but think he is a very engaging speaker and he does have some very good points sometimes and I have respect for him.
People want the simple, simplified. Not getting paid or advantaged and work(thinking is) isn't wanted. So 50% of people on the persons in the world hate -justification for refusing the work.
In all the interviews and conferences I've seen with Dr Peterson I come away with the same thought. There is no one in the room that can match his intellect coupled with his clear and concise thought processes and explanations with no jargon or trendy buzz words. He's always open to other ideas and respectful if he doesn't agree. You can disagree with him but you can never say he isn't honest, straight forward and has integrity with a genuine wish to impart knowledge to enable people to understand the world around them.
Dr. Peterson’s ability for articulation is captivating. I actually felt heart palpitations. I’m not fanboying. I’m just enjoying the enlightenment, the epiphany, and the actualization of hearing my own beliefs expressed so eloquently.
_You're 18 and have all the answers and should go out and radically change the system_ (paraphrased). Perfectly describes me after the obligatory one-semester intro course to philosophy in the Norwegian University system in the 90s. At 62 (yeah, I was a late bloomer) I have somewhat softened my stance.
For everyone who is disappointed at the students who are struggling to stay awake in the background: There exists a level of tired that is not easily overcome. Those of you who have pursued a very difficult degree, served in the military, or had small children will know what I'm talking about. No amount of coffee or Monster is going to wake them up (especially if they have AD(H)D). It isn't a matter of disrespect. It's a matter of being essentially forced to sit still in a presumably warm room with very little stimulus, while approaching a level of exhaustion that apparently this comment section cannot remember experiencing.
Probably because it was a room full of scholars and academics talking about issues and topics and -not- people with the intent on making it political or making him look like a racist/bigot/pseudo-intellectual or whatever the goal is now or days.
Master and Margarita is one of the best books on Earth. It's the kind of book you absolutely get lost in every time you (re)read it. I am deeply grateful to Professor Peterson for appreciating Russian literature so much.
Dr. Peterson is a man of such sound logic and reason I continually fail to understand why he is controversial. I raised 3 children as a single mother. Dr. Peterson speaks of the same ideas and values I raised my children with. None of ever been in trouble with the law, all are totally self supporting ( and have been since they each left school) , and all are in loving, stable relationships. I taught them that they were not born exceptional but had to work hard to become exceptional. Dr. Peterson’s message used to be called parenting and wisdom. The fact that the message is controversial is an indictment upon modern socialization fads and not the reality of life.
Well. What do you have to say to me, who got some things right but somehow failed to pass along my anti-authoritarian views? Does that make me a better or worse person than you? What is your point? Are you trying to educate younger people about how somehow acquiring those values and somehow passing them along is somehow even possible to guarantee?
What a breath of fresh air to expert ience a brave , honest and knowledgeable thinker in today's world, not to mention the civility, appreciativeness and alertness of the audience. Wished Mr. Pterson could tour in a few forbidden countries in Eastern Europe, Asia and the middle East. Thanks
"You let those who utter hateful things do so and let everyone hear them, because that’s the best way that what they say will be understood and rejected". Brilliant.
Mark Lewis you are arguing the wrong stage. My point was actually about the rise of antisemitism not some debate people want to have about how horrific its consequences were. If the quote is wrong then all the people uttering antisemitism shouldn't have lead to the rise of antisemitism.
And regarding the external regulation and what you said about it, I also think it’s like saying we don’t need a constitution and punishment laws because if you put the evidence in front of people they will do the right thing, so you don’t need to externally regulate the society, self-regulation is much more practical, and I'll say while self-regulation is far superior and lead to better results, you need both. And those who think you don’t need external regulation, I doubt they work with people. But if you agree with that when it comes to constitution, don’t you think that we have a responsibility to protect others from dangerous ideas same as we protect them from crime and diseases?
Hey @Jason Noble, good comment, but I don’t think you fully got what I was trying to say. I’ll try to better explain my point here again, I didn't say ban free speech, BTW, all I'm saying is I believe the professor is oversimplifying the situation in a beautiful sentence and it's good between thinkers and highly intellectual people which most people aren't as he himself said, most people subscribe to the notion of the low-resolution thumbnail because as Jung said thinking is hard and most people would tend to do the easy thing almost always, it's a biological trait as well, the point is again I really wish the outcome is as peaceful as the sentence but it's not. And again following the same analogy; okay, free speech has both the virus and the antivirus but it takes a whole lot of time, work, effort and money to manufacture that antivirus and you might not be able to get everyone who's sick to take it (you’d also want to consider that people’s immune responses vary greatly…. depending on so many factors but that’s beside my main point), whoever oversimplifies that never worked in the health field, IMO. Like should we accept the millions of lives lost because of the bad ideas? I'm really asking you if you could prevent this from the beginning would you not? Would you rather have millions dead than compromising on the free speech principle? And that's why I'm saying it's impractical like I'm sure beyond doubt communists and Nazis would have inevitably lost the ideological battle but it wasn't in a classroom in a university between high intellectuals (a controlled environment), that wasn't the case, and that's my point, I really wish you could reason with all of your enemies but that's not how the world works, do I really need to give you examples to that? There are still people believe in Nazism and communism, for god's sake! And they are increasing. And it's okay for you, for us all, as long as it remains this way, right? Believe in what the hell you want, preach and spread it, as long as you don't get in power to enforce it. (Which I'd argue again, it's not how things work, if they get the numbers they’ll be in power) So I believe it always comes to the fundamental question: "where do we draw the line?" Because you/we do/did the same thing all the time. That said, there's an important distinction to make and again the professor pointed it out brilliantly earlier in the video. You gotta differentiate between what he called the Darwinian viewpoint and the Newtonian viewpoint, they aren't actually the same, meaning, if you're forced to have a virus that's spreading without you enabling it, like out of your hands (how the world works= the Darwinian viewpoint), then you have nothing to do but to depend on your immune system, that's not the same as enabling the virus to be spread deliberately (the Newtonian viewpoint) because our incredible immune system will develop an antibody to it, both may lead to the same outcome but they're not the same, you get me? And that’s what I believe that statement by the professor sounds like. It's also worth pointing out the vaccine analogy, a vaccine is a microbe in a weakened form given to the immune system to stimulate it to recognize the agent as a threat, destroy it, produce antibodies to further recognize and destroy any of the microorganisms associated with that agent that it may encounter in the future, that’s also not the same as giving the body a strong (if not the strongest) strain and say I’m stimulating the immune system, you could kill that patient. That said, I’m talking about it generally, however, if we specified the case to the discussion that’s going on in Canada for example, then I’d stand with the professor because I think the left has taken it there sooo far and he’s actually bringing them back to the balancing point.
Matthew P. It's actually not. It's actually the entire opposite, children are taught - "If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all."
He is very intellectual and respectful yes. I am and am not a fan of 12 rules for life at the same time. Half of my time reading it was interesting, the other half I was highlighting with my own critical notes in leaps in some of the things he was proposing. I do look forward to his next book.
Have to admit, he goes over my head at times. I try to hang on. But wow, what a brilliant man he is. A debater for a generation. I love Mr Peterson. And these comments are sooo good.
@Jimmy Jones Yes, we shouldn't learn anything from people with problems... Reductionist, ignorant, and elitist. You've got a great combo going on there.
@Jimmy Jones You are reductionist and ignorant. Meaning and order in life may seem common sense, however getting to actually have meaning an order in your life is not easy. Is this why Jocko Willink blew up? No. The idea discipline, which Jordan speaks to as well, leads to freedom, is why Jocko blew up. Combined with Jordan's meaning and order emphasis, discipline improves people's lives. If some people latched on for the wrong reasons, that isn't Jordan's issue. You're a hater for the sake of being a hater, plain and simple. But keep it up, you aren't providing anything positive regardless of Jordan's net positive or negative impacts. Hail Lobster!
@Jimmy Jones this jordan petetson guy sounds pretty intelligent its like he's saying how extreme a group or an individual can be when left unchecked, obviously the system at the moment is trying to suppress people's opinions (corporations and governments)
Oh my goodness- he just voiced what I was thinking and saying the entire time in Critical Theory and Post Modernism as an English major... I kept wondering, who are these schleps to say what was good or not and what it meant. This man is the smartest human communicator ever!
lovely to see the man speak and have a decent discussion with intelligent people rather than being spoken over by ignorant and agenda pushing presenters such a rational way of thinking really enjoy hearing his point of view and insights a remarkable man truly
Dr. Peterson.....what can I say that others have not? Amazing man, full of compassion for his fellow human. This is probably part of the reason why progs demonize him so much. They hate everything that's good.❤
I've listened to this man for nearly 2 days nonstop, I can hardly keep my eyes open. He's absolutely brilliant and everything a man should be. A national treasure
He is not only a national treasure but an international one. Lots of his material is on KZclip and therefore accessible to people all around the world (for people who have access to the internet)
My Gawd, how I adore listening to this man. Such amazing wisdom in a single mind. I completely agree w/ his comment regarding the successful polity of the UK. My own appraisal of the Colonial Period ( Make the World, England ) was Christian England's attempt to "Save the World". The big problem now is that your social institutions, media, corporations, and government are very busy working to destroy and demean your culture, your history, & your future. Welcome 1984 !
How anyone can think and speak at this level on the fly is amazing. The real amazement also comes that he always answers people faurly, even when he knows they have no clue what his answers actaully mean, but he trys so hard to help them understand it. - Must be super frustrating to argue with an idiot lol
I rarely sit through a 30 minute video without a playback speed of >1.5. But the clarity of thought & analysis of ideas and eloquence of Jordan peterson is remarkable. Sometimes I wonder how one can teach oneself to reach that level of thought, analysis and eloquence. I would appreciate any suggestions on were to start.
This is why I love the internet. An interview where a question is asked and the response is allowed in completeness, uninterrupted. As opposed to mass media and a 30 second response time, which when entering innovative ideas, 30 seconds is certainly not possible, not only not possible, but make the response "crazy" in the minds of the surface idea idiots. Thus we learning nothing in an accusatory, fast response environment, and the same old ideas remain seemingly as the only "sane" answer.....stagnation is the result.
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"innovative ideas" lmao
It is genuinely amazing how much more quickly Jordan's mind runs compared to mine. Having this variety of vocabulary and being able to articulate at this rate of speed is entertaining in itself.
He strikes me as an intellectual version of Spalding Gray.
@choblgobblrr
A valid critique would involved reference to something specific.
So of course you said nothing of the sort.
You immediately resorted to ad hominem insults.
We heard him, and we read what you have to say.
How many, do you suppose, found what you said more compelling?
My guess is, very close to zero percent.
“Conceptual dispute is the substitute for war and death.”
What a magnificent articulation! A great discussion!
It was and always will be, basically all war is begin when the conceptual dispute doesn't come to a point respected by all parties involved. This is something people keep underplay, like saying they hate people who talk too much or the phrase no action talk only, which undermine the importance of talking which is the basis of thinking. Action when not going through rigorous process of thinking will always be dangerous, but the world keep on forget it like they forget what they ate last week.
Such a beautiful discourse from both ends and such a privilege to experience this through internet sitting in my bedroom in the small town of India. Dr. Peterson level of articulation is off the charts.
did you notice that he talks about what always has been while the thing that has changed through out humanity is inventions and their value. what i find interesting is usually the copyright is given a longer time than the patent. i atribute this to the fact that wordsmiths make the laws.
Me too
I fell the same here in Brazil! 😊
This lecture wasn't long enough. He had some excellent questions and had the time to actually articulate answers without interruption. Could have easily had 3 hours. This lecture shows, as Jordan expressed, that these older universities, where people value their place, hold much more respect for the value of academia, and open honest discussion. Such values should be reinforced in the weider world.
I have to express tremendous admiration for these young people and the absolutely thoughtful questions that they were able to formulate. While it's not possible to know whether they did so prior to the discussion or on the fly, the intelligence exhibited is absolutely inspiring. We are so used to seeing and hearing thoughtless nonsense foaming from the mouths of so-called students that it's easy to forget that there are young people in the world who can actually lead us away from chaos and destruction.
not likely to lead away from chaos at all. the harder one trys to avoid chaos only gives it more power when the outburst comes. the biggest changes in humans lives are brought by inventions of engineers not by feelings. the chaos brought by social media on the internet is just a example of this. the beauty of the internet is how quickly a lie can be pointed out not that it prevents lies.
Well its not a woke American university ...This is freaking Oxford cream of the world studies here
Love the way he responded to the older lady, who didn't really have a question - she just wanted to make a statement. He looked straight at her, and then expanded on what she was saying, making her feel valued and respected for her comments. And he would have carried on talking to her, if the guy introducing him hadn't moved on to someone else. How often do you see that - someone so respectful and careful with other people's dignity. That shows nobility of character, and humility. A whole lesson in itself.
Her comments are from 2018 and little did she know how bad things would be by 2022.
I was thinking the same thing. what an inspiration. Where most people would have tut tut their finger that she was 'meant' to ask a question. took what she spoke about and then it didnt matter if there was a question.
I also absolutely love how he, when aske about Turdeau. Rather than launch into a very understandable tirade, everyone was expecting it. he paused to think and actually answered the question by thinking about what she asked him and gave her his top two questions. ..
He's amazing.
@A J nope your right .. exactly what he did🙂
yes great guy ckever and humble
Jordan Peterson, as far as I'm concerned, is (and always will be) the king of the north.
I'm so excited to see him next year. I signed up for a 'meet and greet" and I'm afraid I'll get emotional because he's changed my life so much. As a disabled veteran, I can't thank him enough.
@Rainbow Chateau Jordan Petersons 12 rules for life most certainly had the most impact on me.
You have to start from the ground up and go through discomfort to move forward.
Getting up early, making my bed every morning and keeping my personal space clean, tidy and organised was a good foundation.
I then started doing push ups every day as exercise, and then cold showers, cold showers had a massive impact on me after a few weeks, it taught me to go through discomfort, and then other little steps which became easier and easier.
It is very important to not just make little improvements but to remain consistent with them everyday after a while many good and positive habits will compound over weeks and months and will build into much bigger positive things in your life.
I now wake up at 6.30 am most mornings without an alarm, my home is spotless and organised, I wild swim every morning workout 3 times a week, read one book a week, with all this on point work and grinding towards my goals is easy, I do have short lapses where I put things off to the next day, but if I try and do that I have my own mental prosses to just do NOW, just don't put things off, just do them now.
12 rules for life helped me immensely on my journey and pointed me in the right direction but bottom line it's your journey and you have to take action yourself, if you can't help yourself then no one will.
Look in the mirror and ask your self is this a reason why I can't do something or just an excuse, bottom line you have to take action and be happy being uncomfortable at the start.
Hope this helps
@fozzy f what books helped with your procrastination cause I'm struggling terribly with it and need help
I met Jordan Peterson at the Apollo in London and spoke with him one on one for a few minutes not just in the met and great but while I was in the line outside he must of spoken to a good hundred people in the line before he was called inside, he is a very genuine kind person with an amazing sense of humour but also an immense intellect equalled only by his compassion and care for others.
I spoke with him about how his books and online talks helped me with my procrastination and his response and attention to me in our brief chat was just amazing.
He is a wonderful human being who deeply cares about people and possesses so much integrity, but his intellect is off the map and I have no doubt he will be spoken of in the centuries to come as one of the greatest minds of our age.
As a Canadian, I'll honor that crown. He is a sovereign I would pledge to.
Jordan Peterson is probably in my top three most favorite public figures alive today. He is like a walking encyclopedia that has the capability to digest and generate so many critical thoughts in a way that you can understand them. It’s extremely impressive
@Different Pound That's a good question. And as the interview goes on, despite "pushing back", Peterson so far has been giving Netanyahu a platform to make a speech. He has questioned some things, but basically, it's been softball. Even when Netanyahu has out & out lied, Jordan didn't call him out on those.
@Different Pound What do you base that assessment on?
I wish someone would give Dr. Peterson an award for honesty, forthrightness, and integrity. He makes his points with specific examples and nails the idiocy of political correctness to the door. Bravo, sir. You have my undying respect.
@mattia2ino Since I saw this video I have seen others, particularly one in which he is talking about Canadian law firms, and I have to admit, his point about men being more willing to pursue the highest positions is a good one.
I still disagree with some things he says but, more and more I am finding myself agreeing with a lot of it.
@Nick Saunders I don’t think he ignores the role of socialisation, in fact he said on multiple occasions that the differences in the ability to negotiate between men and women are higher in those countries where little boys and girls are socialised in the same way, without gender prejudices about how a boy should behave and how a girl should behave
Good 👍
@andy halstead In general, I agree with him on that. He might not have said it in this video, but I have watched interviews of his where he specifically mentioned women earning less because they do not negotiate as well as men.
I love this man and the deeper meanings he manifests based on true identification of the problems, not leaving things in fog or justifying emotional doctrines. JP is brilliant.
Dr. Petersen needs a nobel prize if such is available for his discipline in psychotherapy analysis because of his knowledge in this discipline. How human's minds work AND his knowledge of the way society works within groups together with his excellent use of words and English language makes him a force to reckon with and such a wonderful work of art of combining differemt elements to give us the whole picture! Bravo Dr. Petersen. You are truly a gift to all in this time where everything note worthy psychologically speaking has become so disjointed that socities are literally falling apart. Higher education has failed due to infiltrations of those who seek to control and not teach, listen, discuss, debate and learn. God bless you and the efforts you put into teaching millions of us through these talks on how exactly we humans work. You are the human operating system step by step, guide book!
I love his take on free speech. 'Conceptional disagreement is better than war, pain and death.' Keep the lines of communication open.
I've honestly seen the KKK the exercising their right disassembly, the crowd was heated up and black police officers defended the KKK because they were upholding their first amendment right.
I like this quote a lot and I am all for free speech, however I disagree with the pain part, speaking freely and having disagreements causes pain in one or both parties
I'm speechless. This gentleman presented a view of the world that is more insightful, honest, mature, healing and full of potential for a more harmonious society than any I've heard in a very long time. His intellect is very high yet he distills it down so it can be understood.
I’ve said it before and I’m going today it again, I pray that these youngsters are aware of just how fortunate and Blessed they are to have this Man in their midst and are able to learn something from him.
This man is not only über intelligent- but he is also a very heartfelt man. What I enjoy about Dr P is this: what he speaks of is actual common sense (which is very lost in our world). The way he delivers this is highly intellectual. J’adore.
The section of this Q&A breaking down the definitions and regulation of free speech is so unbelievably concise that I'm not sure it can ever be articulated un a better way.
Dr. Peterson's position on what to do and why is spot on.... you cannot restrict free speech in 99.9% of scenarios without amplifying the worst possible consequence.
So glad to see Oxford being so open compared to most universities in the US
The young British/Asian gentleman in the glasses asked a pointed, well articulated question. Peterson answered him with a well formulated response. The young man received the answer favorably. This is an example of good and constructive dialogue in action. Something you RARELY see in the media.
@kantraxo ikol "That kid was so far beyond everyone else, including Dr Jordan Peterson"? Think you are probably getting carried away. The art of discourse which includes Q&As at end of discussions, I always thought, was not to be longwinded and 'off on yer own planet' as to cause the rest of the audience to yawn and wonder why one questioner is selfishly monopolising all the Q&A time when others want to get a question in too. But, we have to agree the questioner from Hong Kong did evince an air of 'beyond' as you put it.🙂
that kid was so far beyond everyone else , INCLUDING JP, who looked at this kid with equal amazment.... that i almost think he was a plant ...jeez, that kid is going places if he just shot the question off his hip like we saw here...
@rajeev paltrow 'Chinese looking' you mean? He could have been of Mongolian heritage or other South East Asian Oriental familial heritage. Though, one admits, he certainly 'looked' Chinese. Let's remember overseas students are a lucrative cash-cow to UK universities who pay more, than so-called indigenous students, to study in the UK. Another question would be will he and ilk have to return to China's Hong Kong after his studies?
We also RARELY see salt and pepper in toothpaste. What utter piffle.
Even though my head hurts I could listen to him for hours. I really enjoy the Q&A sessions.
So thanks 👍
Awesome discussion!!! 👏 Such words of wisdom from Sir Peterson, and such patience and grace when answering questions.
An astounding human being.... we are blessed to be alive with him.
We’ve never met but you have done so much to improve my life Dr. Jordan Peterson. All by nothing more than coincidence, you were there when I looked for understanding. Thank you. Your greatly appreciated.
Q and A sessions was fantastic, the exchange between the Asian student and Jordan Peterson was really one of the best examples I’ve seen of effectively reaching a common ground of mutual understanding regarding a contentious topic or issue. Hats off the the student for his articulation and open mindedness.
I can listen to him for hours. Never in my life did I ever think a human being could draw me in like Professor Peterson.
@George Case too bad he is actively being canceled
Especially a Canadian university professor. I've attended 3 universities in Canada, and the extent of most professors' philosophical/political/societal insight is "orange man bad"
Don't just listen mate, do something to uplift lives. Promoting open borders is one of them btw.
Tom Martin - Not sure that was a joke...
Tom Martin - Not sure that was a joke...
What an amazing intellect. I never tire of listening to Dr. Peterson.
Outstanding presentation of ideas, great questions and answers, I enjoyed this immensely. I wish it had gone for longer!
That was when the woke moralists realized that this man is one of the most educated and experienced person in his field.
Interesting address and very professional Q&A session.
I always get awed by his ability to articulate things in speech, its absolutely bonkers to see a human being capable of such control in speech.
i love this man . he speaks what im thinking but in a way im unable to express myself
I am so impressed not only by Peterson’s ability to communicate so clearly and passionately but by the breadth of his reading and understanding of his field.
He has the talent to make himself understood from the Oxford University student,to a secondary modern school pupil like me
That was an amazing hour of thought... McCluhan started this train of thought and Dr. Peterson has expanded on it, I'm so glad to witness it.
He has it all. Good looks, humor, brilliance, morality, and he still makes laugh with a good sense of humor. Oh, yeah. He doesn’t take himself too seriously. Awesome answers. Awesome man
I could live 5 life times and never be able to fully understand his level of articulation. Absolutely brilliant beyond anything I am able to comprehend. Goodluck sir
@Adam Smith Based on the comments I've seen, people don't seem to know what JP is talking about. Some interpreted the remark as meaning literally a living thing must physically move forwards (a somewhat ridiculous interpretation); others I've seen think he is referring to evolution; others think he is talking about progress towards a goal. May be there are still other interpretations.
JP is a charlatan. The problem is people lack the education to see it. You said in an earlier comment you didn't understand anything he is saying. That's because you presume he is saying something non obvious and because JP is in fact saying only the obvious you don't get it. It's all empty verbiage. His opening remark is a classic. He says "complex biological creatures must move forward". This is classic JP. It's a terrible sentence because it's so vague nobody knows what he is talking about. When you try and work out what he is trying to say he appears to be stating the obvious. At which point it becomes embarrassing. It amazes me people don't see through it. Even those with little education.
Mr. Jordan is one of the best men alive today. I'm extremely grateful to listen to his talks and that he is willing to share his knowledge. My life is changing dramatically since I started listening to him. Great, great man!
This is where KZclip and social media platforms can be a blessing. To be able to watch Jordan Peterson speak at such a prominent venue among the world's future thinkers. I am grateful for having stumbled upon this.
I was just thinking that if there is anything to take away from some of the freethinkers on youtube like Peterson, it's that all of his content has taught people how not only how to articulate their thoughts better, but also why it's so important to do so. Really grateful for Peterson and his work.
"prominent...world's future thinkers". How very impressionable. Letting others do your thinking for you too. Oh dear.
the worlds future thinkers? clearly you havent watched the labour parties talks, thats a room full of neo communists.
You don't need an exclusive education to be a thinker and have the ability to listen. It also depends on the quality of the ability which tends to be independent of education but can be enhanced by education.
Peterson has made me think again about a lot of issues. It's good to see a genuinely intelligent, decent individual influence young people.
It is good you are thinking about things. It builds neuropathways and the more we build, the less likely we are to lose our minds in our old age.
@Chancery Stone yeah except he's not inciting genocide so..
Yeah people said the same about Hitler.
Part 1: Hierarchy and its political significance
Introduction 0:55
1. Value 1:52
2. Hierarchy 4:57
3. Inequality 6:03
4. Politics 6:46
Personality 8:24
Necessity of both 9:41
Summary 10:22
Part 2: Questions
Q#1: Rejecting Political correctness 11:47
Q#2: Truth and Post-Modernism 18:59
Q#3: The source of meaning 28:43
Q#4: limitless questioning 39:06
Q#5 43:07
Q#6 51:47
Q#7 1:04:38
Q#8 1:09:13
Thank you for putting this together.
This discussion is one of my favorite videos from Jordan Peterson
Thank you Jordan for your clearly defined, and expressed, thoughts and opinions.
We need people like this who make us think about ourselves in relation to others. I have found life is richer when you help others who are less rich in many ways to understand what is meant by rich.
That was utterly awesome. My brain is on overdrive right now. Kudos to the Oxford Union for hosting Dr Peterson. And thanks for uploading to KZclip!
Your brain is on overdrive? Ever thought about reading a book?
He has endless hours of content on KZclip, it's all so magical
Well, I have to say that was one of the most interesting Q&A's I've seen for a while. I'm afraid I was not able to keep up with him, intellectually, all the way through but I tried my best. His command of language, use of precise vocabulary was outstanding, his sharp mind etc etc., was above and beyond. In many ways he reminded me a little of the late Christopher Hitchens. What a refreshing voice to hear. Thank you Dr Peterson.
11:56 - Thoughts on political correctness.
18:59 Follow up question.
27:10 - Audience question #1
28:41 - Audience question #2
39:05 - Audience question #3
43:01 - Audience "question" #4
51:46 - Audience question #5
22:35 - Girl sleeping
@El Chapo why the spite?
Thank-you:)
Well, why not thank Radioactive. Someone might find his pinpoints helpful.
Or a butler?
"The abstract territory of conceptual dispute is a substitute for war and death." I can't even explain how deep and great this statement is.
As another great man, Churchill, put it.....far better to jaw jaw, than to war war.
If we didn’t have Jordan Peterson to defend against this irrationality, the world would be a much much worse place
@Chancery Stone He's not t he answer to everything, and I don't think he agrees on that as well.
@Eva Luna God help us, if he's the answer to anything.
I know, right! He is the knight in a shining suit... who’s come to our rescue. 😀
The world is still crap.
He’s an astounding debater/arguer. Would’ve made a scary ass trial attorney. We have a lot of exposure to him in the US. He seems like a really decent fellow. From time to time he runs out of his lane which may be why he annoys people sometimes. But I could never question his sincerity. If he could lose his Canadian accent he would be perfect. (Just kidding. We love our Canadian neighbors.) 🇺🇸🇨🇦
No denunciations, no placards, no strops or walkouts. Just an excellent discussion, respectful and intelligent, from the speaker and from the audience. That's how it should be done.
@Jacqueline Leitch Thanks for the reply.
I don't accept that feminism can be "oppressed". You can't oppress a set of ideas.
You can oppress feminist intellectuals, sure. But not by disagreeing with them, nor by disparaging their worldview. That's isn't oppression. What's happening in Ukraine - that's oppression. Defending the concept of hierarchy... not so much.
As for your views on Peterson, I'll leave you to them. I'm sure you arrived at them after much consideration, and I have no desire to try and divest you of them. I don't share them, but that's neither here nor there.
Best wishes.
@DracoFire Correct.
@Goofy GrandLouis You still get religious fundamentalists though and that is the most terrifying part. You either have the radical left (wokeism) or the radical right (religious zealotry) and the amount of people in between shrinks by the day.
Very measured and careful speech. A perfect example of action over reaction.
I never listen to podcasts or talks. I think it just feels incredibly cheesy to do so. But watching Jordan's talks and listening to his podcasts just feels like a constant feed of learning going straight into my brain. It's incredible.
The most important thinker of the modern age. Bar none. Dr Peterson may be the one person who can pull us back from the precipice of absolute RUIN we find ourselves on. God bless him ❤
My goodness he is balanced, analytical, sensitive, non judgmental, perceptive and has so many other worthy attributes.
How different he is to the students rolling their eyes at his intellect unable to process his intelligent thoughts with their ideological mindset injected into them by these universities.
If I had money to run 3 generations, I would be sitting in my castle and reading books and listening to these people permanently.
I cannot bring myself to understand why some people hate this man.His pure brilliance beyond ordinary.
His ability to articulate his thoughts is another level.
I think some people find some things he says offensive and I don’t always agree with him but think he is a very engaging speaker and he does have some very good points sometimes and I have respect for him.
People want the simple, simplified. Not getting paid or advantaged and work(thinking is) isn't wanted. So 50% of people on the persons in the world hate -justification for refusing the work.
people dont like to hear the truth and this guy gets shut down because he tells the truth and thats not the narrative going around right now.
The cult of personality takes many shapes.
Watch big Joel’s video
We are proud of you Jordan ❣️
Such a brilliant mind. Delighted to see this level of candor and debate.
In all the interviews and conferences I've seen with Dr Peterson I come away with the same thought. There is no one in the room that can match his intellect coupled with his clear and concise thought processes and explanations with no jargon or trendy buzz words. He's always open to other ideas and respectful if he doesn't agree.
You can disagree with him but you can never say he isn't honest, straight forward and has integrity with a genuine wish to impart knowledge to enable people to understand the world around them.
I am 61 years old and a infant in thinking compared to this man . I’m hooked on his intelligence!
Das ist wunderbar ausgedrückt!
Everything Mr. Peterson says is thoughtful, profound, and insightful. His intelligence is a gift to the world.
Thank you Oxford Union for letting Jordan speak. Too many higher education establishments blocking him out.
Dr. Peterson’s ability for articulation is captivating. I actually felt heart palpitations. I’m not fanboying. I’m just enjoying the enlightenment, the epiphany, and the actualization of hearing my own beliefs expressed so eloquently.
You are fanboying.
Check out his books. 12 rules literally had me in tears of joy!!!
_You're 18 and have all the answers and should go out and radically change the system_ (paraphrased). Perfectly describes me after the obligatory one-semester intro course to philosophy in the Norwegian University system in the 90s. At 62 (yeah, I was a late bloomer) I have somewhat softened my stance.
I wish I had met him as a psychologist 10 years ago.... would have calmed me down tremendously and saved me from my foolishness.
Good 👍 man.
For everyone who is disappointed at the students who are struggling to stay awake in the background:
There exists a level of tired that is not easily overcome. Those of you who have pursued a very difficult degree, served in the military, or had small children will know what I'm talking about. No amount of coffee or Monster is going to wake them up (especially if they have AD(H)D).
It isn't a matter of disrespect. It's a matter of being essentially forced to sit still in a presumably warm room with very little stimulus, while approaching a level of exhaustion that apparently this comment section cannot remember experiencing.
Thank God this man takes the time to think before he speaks! Kudos!
Peterson is amazing at answering questions with actual answers. You know, substance. Applied intelligence.
”Applied intelligence”, spot on
Wow. This was by far one of the best talks that Peterson's ever given.
Probably because it was a room full of scholars and academics talking about issues and topics and -not- people with the intent on making it political or making him look like a racist/bigot/pseudo-intellectual or whatever the goal is now or days.
also a Poe.
A brilliant man Dr. Peterson. GOD BLESS HIM!
A true psychology professor.
Master and Margarita is one of the best books on Earth. It's the kind of book you absolutely get lost in every time you (re)read it. I am deeply grateful to Professor Peterson for appreciating Russian literature so much.
I wish this discussion was in every political science and sociological classroom!
He is such a legend.
Dr. Peterson is a man of such sound logic and reason I continually fail to understand why he is controversial. I raised 3 children as a single mother. Dr. Peterson speaks of the same ideas and values I raised my children with. None of ever been in trouble with the law, all are totally self supporting ( and have been since they each left school) , and all are in loving, stable relationships. I taught them that they were not born exceptional but had to work hard to become exceptional. Dr. Peterson’s message used to be called parenting and wisdom. The fact that the message is controversial is an indictment upon modern socialization fads and not the reality of life.
Well. What do you have to say to me, who got some things right but somehow failed to pass along my anti-authoritarian views? Does that make me a better or worse person than you? What is your point? Are you trying to educate younger people about how somehow acquiring those values and somehow passing them along is somehow even possible to guarantee?
🙂🙏
I sincerly hope your life have been nothing but fantastic, god bless.
@voxer99 His success is based on being controversial. The man makes his money with being controversial! It's really not that hard to realize that.
What an amazing insights firmly grounded in a vast multi disciplinary knowledge and empiricism. Wonderful!
What a breath of fresh air to expert
ience a brave , honest and knowledgeable thinker in today's world, not to mention the civility, appreciativeness and alertness of the audience. Wished Mr. Pterson could tour in a few forbidden countries in Eastern Europe, Asia and the middle East. Thanks
I don't always understand what JP says but I learn something every time.
I am impressed of the Oxford students !!
Imagine being that knowledged that you consider hierarchy small talk, love this guy
"You let those who utter hateful things do so and let everyone hear them, because that’s the best way that what they say will be understood and rejected". Brilliant.
@Ahmad El sayyad yeh I think if you work with people one sees how important self regulation is.
Mark Lewis you are arguing the wrong stage. My point was actually about the rise of antisemitism not some debate people want to have about how horrific its consequences were. If the quote is wrong then all the people uttering antisemitism shouldn't have lead to the rise of antisemitism.
And regarding the external regulation and what you said about it, I also think it’s like saying we don’t need a constitution and punishment laws because if you put the evidence in front of people they will do the right thing, so you don’t need to externally regulate the society, self-regulation is much more practical, and I'll say while self-regulation is far superior and lead to better results, you need both.
And those who think you don’t need external regulation, I doubt they work with people.
But if you agree with that when it comes to constitution, don’t you think that we have a responsibility to protect others from dangerous ideas same as we protect them from crime and diseases?
Hey @Jason Noble, good comment, but I don’t think you fully got what I was trying to say. I’ll try to better explain my point here again,
I didn't say ban free speech, BTW, all I'm saying is I believe the professor is oversimplifying the situation in a beautiful sentence and it's good between thinkers and highly intellectual people which most people aren't as he himself said, most people subscribe to the notion of the low-resolution thumbnail because as Jung said thinking is hard and most people would tend to do the easy thing almost always, it's a biological trait as well, the point is again I really wish the outcome is as peaceful as the sentence but it's not.
And again following the same analogy; okay, free speech has both the virus and the antivirus but it takes a whole lot of time, work, effort and money to manufacture that antivirus and you might not be able to get everyone who's sick to take it (you’d also want to consider that people’s immune responses vary greatly…. depending on so many factors but that’s beside my main point), whoever oversimplifies that never worked in the health field, IMO.
Like should we accept the millions of lives lost because of the bad ideas? I'm really asking you if you could prevent this from the beginning would you not? Would you rather have millions dead than compromising on the free speech principle? And that's why I'm saying it's impractical like I'm sure beyond doubt communists and Nazis would have inevitably lost the ideological battle but it wasn't in a classroom in a university between high intellectuals (a controlled environment), that wasn't the case, and that's my point, I really wish you could reason with all of your enemies but that's not how the world works, do I really need to give you examples to that?
There are still people believe in Nazism and communism, for god's sake! And they are increasing.
And it's okay for you, for us all, as long as it remains this way, right? Believe in what the hell you want, preach and spread it, as long as you don't get in power to enforce it. (Which I'd argue again, it's not how things work, if they get the numbers they’ll be in power)
So I believe it always comes to the fundamental question: "where do we draw the line?" Because you/we do/did the same thing all the time.
That said, there's an important distinction to make and again the professor pointed it out brilliantly earlier in the video.
You gotta differentiate between what he called the Darwinian viewpoint and the Newtonian viewpoint, they aren't actually the same,
meaning, if you're forced to have a virus that's spreading without you enabling it, like out of your hands (how the world works= the Darwinian viewpoint), then you have nothing to do but to depend on your immune system, that's not the same as enabling the virus to be spread deliberately (the Newtonian viewpoint) because our incredible immune system will develop an antibody to it, both may lead to the same outcome but they're not the same, you get me?
And that’s what I believe that statement by the professor sounds like.
It's also worth pointing out the vaccine analogy, a vaccine is a microbe in a weakened form given to the immune system to stimulate it to recognize the agent as a threat, destroy it, produce antibodies to further recognize and destroy any of the microorganisms associated with that agent that it may encounter in the future, that’s also not the same as giving the body a strong (if not the strongest) strain and say I’m stimulating the immune system, you could kill that patient.
That said, I’m talking about it generally, however, if we specified the case to the discussion that’s going on in Canada for example, then I’d stand with the professor because I think the left has taken it there sooo far and he’s actually bringing them back to the balancing point.
Matthew P. It's actually not. It's actually the entire opposite, children are taught - "If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all."
he must be one of the greatest scholars of this time. This was one of my greater moments listening to him.
Legend. Tells it like it is every time.
I definitely learn a whole lot when listening to Jordan Peterson perhaps because I love hearing him talk.
He is very intellectual and respectful yes. I am and am not a fan of 12 rules for life at the same time. Half of my time reading it was interesting, the other half I was highlighting with my own critical notes in leaps in some of the things he was proposing. I do look forward to his next book.
It's all an act. He isn't intellectual at all.
Have to admit, he goes over my head at times. I try to hang on. But wow, what a brilliant man he is. A debater for a generation. I love Mr
Peterson. And these comments are sooo good.
Rewatching this a month later. The things that once went over my head, I am starting to grasp.
Love your honesty.
This is literally the talk I didn't know i needed. Dr. Jordan Peterson you're gold !
1:00:00 arbitrary regulation of hate speech
@NoName yawn
@Jimmy Jones Yes, we shouldn't learn anything from people with problems... Reductionist, ignorant, and elitist. You've got a great combo going on there.
@Jimmy Jones You are reductionist and ignorant. Meaning and order in life may seem common sense, however getting to actually have meaning an order in your life is not easy. Is this why Jocko Willink blew up? No. The idea discipline, which Jordan speaks to as well, leads to freedom, is why Jocko blew up. Combined with Jordan's meaning and order emphasis, discipline improves people's lives. If some people latched on for the wrong reasons, that isn't Jordan's issue. You're a hater for the sake of being a hater, plain and simple. But keep it up, you aren't providing anything positive regardless of Jordan's net positive or negative impacts. Hail Lobster!
@Jimmy Jones this jordan petetson guy sounds pretty intelligent its like he's saying how extreme a group or an individual can be when left unchecked, obviously the system at the moment is trying to suppress people's opinions (corporations and governments)
Oh my goodness- he just voiced what I was thinking and saying the entire time in Critical Theory and Post Modernism as an English major... I kept wondering, who are these schleps to say what was good or not and what it meant. This man is the smartest human communicator ever!
lovely to see the man speak and have a decent discussion with intelligent people rather than being spoken over by ignorant and agenda pushing presenters such a rational way of thinking really enjoy hearing his point of view and insights a remarkable man truly
I was at book promotion event with Jordan Peterson the night our Queen died.
He’s amazing.
i have been binge watching a his videos and still can't get enough I love his mind
Dr. Peterson.....what can I say that others have not? Amazing man, full of compassion for his fellow human. This is probably part of the reason why progs demonize him so much. They hate everything that's good.❤
I've listened to this man for nearly 2 days nonstop, I can hardly keep my eyes open. He's absolutely brilliant and everything a man should be. A national treasure
@Lusiana Caucau same😄
He is not only a national treasure but an international one. Lots of his material is on KZclip and therefore accessible to people all around the world (for people who have access to the internet)
Add practise to your listening and you will experience wholesomeness.
Hahahahaha sometimes I try to close my eyes to rest them, while I listen to him speak.
He’s been my substitute for music lately and I usually listen to 5-6 hours of music a day. He’s so great
My Gawd, how I adore listening to this man. Such amazing wisdom in a single mind. I completely agree w/ his comment regarding the successful polity of the UK. My own appraisal of the Colonial Period ( Make the World, England ) was Christian England's attempt to "Save the World". The big problem now is that your social institutions, media, corporations, and government are very busy working to destroy and demean your culture, your history, & your future. Welcome 1984 !
Jordan is the embodiment of "think before you speak", feels like this has been lost today
I’m so glad I have learned English. His videos should have subtitles in all languages. ^^
My goodness. That talk make me think this man and others like him can save the world.
I truly love your thought(processes)s and mindset. I resonate very well with it.
This was so interesting! Thank you to the Oxford Union for inviting him regardless of all the pressure against doing this
How anyone can think and speak at this level on the fly is amazing.
The real amazement also comes that he always answers people faurly, even when he knows they have no clue what his answers actaully mean, but he trys so hard to help them understand it. - Must be super frustrating to argue with an idiot lol
Thank you. I enjoyed the intelligent, rational talk
I rarely sit through a 30 minute video without a playback speed of >1.5. But the clarity of thought & analysis of ideas and eloquence of Jordan peterson is remarkable. Sometimes I wonder how one can teach oneself to reach that level of thought, analysis and eloquence. I would appreciate any suggestions on were to start.