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  • Sunny Kalsi
    Sunny Kalsi Ай бұрын +6

    I'm really enjoying this series, and I think it's not often that someone gets a new house to be able to set up a new automation platform. That's awesome. Something about automations: A pattern I use is to set the same thing on the "trigger" and "condition". This way you can be sure that any change will trigger the automation, but the condition can check things via AND and skip the automation. It also means you can set "coincident" triggers -- triggers which might co-incide with the automation, but do not affect the condition.
    The aim there is to be able to trigger an automation at any time, but it having a set of conditions which prevent it running to keep it in a safe state.

    • workersbee
      workersbee 18 күн бұрын

      Do you also thin electric cars can be smart charging

    • Sunny Kalsi
      Sunny Kalsi Ай бұрын +1

      @Home Assistant Tips By Larry Yes! I do the same thing. Basically I can have a single automation to set a device to a desired state, and I can choose which state to set it to based on the conditions. Then I just set the trigger to whenever I want to ensure the state is set.

    • Home Assistant Tips By Larry
      Home Assistant Tips By Larry Ай бұрын +1

      Instead of having to run concurrent automation's you might check out the action called choose. It can check the conduction and if it doesn't pass it will go on to the next option you set up in the automation that has a different conduction. You can have as many options as you want and can even setup a default action if none of the option conduction's are true. All in one automation. Very nice, i use this a LOT when setting up actions that may have many different conduction's.

  • GreenArrow
    GreenArrow 24 күн бұрын +1

    What a great video. I've been at it since X-10, and am HomeKit-centric now, but it's so useful for people to know that other approaches are possible. Looking forward to more.

  • Guy Yaniv
    Guy Yaniv Күн бұрын

    Alan, I must say I really enjoy your playlist. The professionalism and no-nonsense approach is great. There is a lot of noise out there on smart homes (mainly coming from America where brands differ and constraints vary). Thank you so much for taking the time uploading this. I wish there was a way to support your channel (maybe there’s is but couldn’t find it so please drop me a line if there is). G

    • Home Automation Guy
      Home Automation Guy  Күн бұрын

      Thank you! Comments, likes and subscribes are the only support I'm looking for right now. I just make these videos as a hobby alongside my day job, sharing what I learn with others

  • Trudy-Howard Marsh
    Trudy-Howard Marsh Ай бұрын +3

    So impressed by the way you explain all this in a simple way to us new smart home folk, just about to move home myself so taking away advice to help set up, it all started witha light bulb, literally! looking forward to following for more. Cheers!

  • Mihai Krieger
    Mihai Krieger Ай бұрын +1

    I started learning home assistant in July 2022. I have invested around two months in learning, reading and experimenting before I got to a level where I could feel comfortable about using it and make it available for my family, but I feel it was worth it, because it expanded my mind and understanding on how home automation works and what happens under the hood.
    It is not an understatement that Home Assistant is complex and has a steep-ish learning curve. Maybe this was because I chose to learn alone. But if you have a friend already using it, go ask for explanation. Home Assistant has some quirks and pitfalls of which once you are aware of, everything goes much, MUCH faster.

    • Home Automation Guy
      Home Automation Guy  Ай бұрын +2

      I'd also suggest joining the community in Discord, or Reddit or the HA community forums. I learn a lot by reading about what other people are doing.

  • Prince3121
    Prince3121 Ай бұрын +1

    This is definitely making me consider the HA Yellow kit, as there are just too many hubs to buy and it will save me on energy costs with hosting HA on a PC or Server. Thanx for the great content. I cannot afford the network kit you installed, but I managed to do the exact same thing you did, by fixing up my internal network first, then starting on adding automation devices. 👍

  • olson34
    olson34 Ай бұрын

    As someone new to smart homes and assistants. I love when I can see what people are doing, and how they set them up.

  • Rahul Parmar
    Rahul Parmar Ай бұрын +1

    I started my smart home journey with HA yellow 3 months ago. It's crucial to communicate that HA doesn't always give you full access to end device functionality so buyer beware when selecting devices to purchase.

    • Home Automation Guy
      Home Automation Guy  Ай бұрын

      Thank you!

    • TechJunkie
      TechJunkie Ай бұрын

      Yes, with some best-of-breed devices/systems functionality is exposed only through an app and/or hub. Lutron Caseta is one example. That's why it's really important to think about and document your requirements before you begin spending your budget on the often-expensive bits, lest you paint yourself into a corner. And that's what makes this channel and others so valuable, with someone like HAG thoughtfully presenting objectives and solutions.

  • Kaden
    Kaden Ай бұрын

    Can't wait to see the progress. Great videos and are very informational. Thank you!

  • Brynjard Øvergård
    Brynjard Øvergård Ай бұрын +1

    As an embedded/HPC software developer HA is a complete horror show (ie: don't look at the code kids!). But I have to admit, despite it's Rube Goldberg'esque way of functioning, it's probably one of the best out there.

  • knifecom
    knifecom Ай бұрын +12

    People should know that while your local network doesn’t make a smart home, you can’t have a smart home without a top notch network.

  • TechJunkie
    TechJunkie Ай бұрын +1

    👍 Nice discussion of Home Assistant! Hope you're planning a follow-up video about the infrastructure you're using to support the platform in your new home. Still using Docker for everything? Also intensely curious about the teaser short you posted last year about your early Christmas present to yourself. Do tell!!! 😁

    • Tomas Ignatavicius
      Tomas Ignatavicius Ай бұрын +1

      Seems like he's got a Yellow? So, no more docker, a dedicated device.

  • Jasper van Zuijlen
    Jasper van Zuijlen 22 күн бұрын

    One question that pops up every time Home Assistant is mentioned: did you look at the OpenHAB alternative, and if so, why did it end up not being your choice?

  • Yann Mölle
    Yann Mölle Ай бұрын

    I use an Intel NUC NUC6CAYH with Home Assistant OS. The NUC has more capacity and power than the Home Assistant Yellow, which also makes the hub a bit more future-proof. I use only two hubs, the NUC with Home Assistant and the Aqara M1S, the rest runs on a Zigbee stick with Zigbee2mqtt. So far I have to say it's the most stable hub I've ever had. I can even use the integrated Bluetooth interface for BLE, and the WLAN as failover.

    • Yann Mölle
      Yann Mölle Ай бұрын

      @Blade's Toy Shop Using SkyConnect with the NUC is nearly out of the Box option with Tread and Zigbee.

    • Blade's Toy Shop
      Blade's Toy Shop Ай бұрын

      I can see your point about the stability of a NUC, but unless your Zigbee stick is a fairly recent model with the same chipset as what the HA Yellow and Skyconnect have, you don't have an out of the box option for Thread/Matter.

  • Vincenzo Casini
    Vincenzo Casini Ай бұрын

    Hi, congrats for your new apartment and good luck with these new series of videos, always following you with a close attention to your contents...
    I have a question... how good it is the integrated zigbee antenna in home assistant yellow? Does it worth it? Or better continuing with sonoff zigbee and zigbee2mqtt? Thanks

    • Home Automation Guy
      Home Automation Guy  Ай бұрын +1

      @Vincenzo Casini If you were happy with the Pi 4, then I would stick with the Pi 4 that you are familiar with and already works. I would definitely start from scratch with the Home Assistant installation, as you will probably be naming things differently in the new apartment, and might change things based on any learnings you have from the old one. I would just reset Home Assistant back to fresh and start again on the hardware you have until you find it no longer is working for you.

    • Vincenzo Casini
      Vincenzo Casini Ай бұрын

      @Home Automation Guy thanks for your answer. Actually I have a similar case to yours, current renting apartment with homeassistant installed on rasp pi4, sonoff and zigbe2mqtt, without really investing more on network range, mesh or whatever....
      Now in the new apartment we bought I wanted to restart fresh, so I was considering an all-in-one solution like homeassistant yellow, and using ZHA this time... do you think it makes sense for a fresh restart? In your case, how are you going to do? Thanks, cheers

    • Home Automation Guy
      Home Automation Guy  Ай бұрын +2

      If you already have the Sonoff Zigbee and Zigbee2mqtt then I would stick with that. You can upgrade to a Home Assistant SkyConnect USB stick later when it gets Matter/Thread support if you want to use those types of devices then too

  • nancypaulariel
    nancypaulariel 10 күн бұрын

    Like you, I've just bought a house and will be setting up a smart home. I am new to this game so ordered the yellow kit with PoE. Just wondering now if I should have bought the standard yellow kit instead. This is all so new. Hope you don't mind questions. X

  • Aidan Bazan
    Aidan Bazan Ай бұрын

    I’ve heard hue bulbs are terrible zigbee routers so I’ve been using the hue bridge. Am considering switching them direct to zha though. What’s your experience with it?

  • Fabiano Chagas
    Fabiano Chagas Ай бұрын

    Awesome tips as always!
    Thanks for sharing!

  • محمد رزق
    محمد رزق Ай бұрын

    Can you make a video tutorial about the Dashboard for each user and have different permissions, meaning that a specific Dashboard appears for each user and the user can only edit it through the admin?

  • Linh Tran
    Linh Tran Ай бұрын +1

    I’m also building a smart home and am wondering: are you providing wired power for all your sensors? I dont want to use batteries since I have the chance to wire them though haven’t figured out the best way to provide power yet.

    • Linh Tran
      Linh Tran Ай бұрын

      @Home Assistant Tips By Larry door sensors are pretty easy to wire if you haven't put on the drywall yet. Same for the ceiling sensor. Not sure I care to put one inside a fridge.

    • Home Assistant Tips By Larry
      Home Assistant Tips By Larry Ай бұрын

      @Linh Tran while this would work, it's impractical in many situations. For example a door sensor would be difficult if not impossible to wire, a motion sensor that needs to be located on the ceiling or in a location that does not make it possible to wire it. inside a freezer or refrigerator (to monitor temperature and humidity) would be examples as well.

    • Linh Tran
      Linh Tran Ай бұрын

      @Home Assistant Tips By Larry we could also solder power wires to the battery connectors to provide power…seems like it’d be worth the convenience of not having to follow battery monitors and constantly switch out the batteries.

    • Home Assistant Tips By Larry
      Home Assistant Tips By Larry Ай бұрын

      Moat sensors aren't going to allow you to wire them for power. They are made to be small and easy to move to a location of your choose. My advice is don't limit yourself to a small group of wired sensors. There are several ways (blueprints, integrations, etc.) that will allow you to monitor your sensor battery state and replace them as needed.

  • Juan D. Gómez M.
    Juan D. Gómez M. Ай бұрын

    Hi, a question about matter.
    I've been using this hue starter pack for years now (2 bulbs and the bridge) and recently, the smart home bug bit me and decided to expand. I set up HA and got me some smart plugs, but those are wifi, so didn't have an issue.
    My next planned move is getting some zigbee thermometers and maybe some motion and contact sensors, so I was planning to buy a combee stick but... if matter is coming to the hue bridge, soon:tm:, Can I just wait for it to be implemented and use it as a bridge for aqara, etc? Or is that not how it works (matter hue bridge acting as combee stick for matter compatible products).

    • TechJunkie
      TechJunkie Ай бұрын +2

      If you want to extend Home Assistant to manage Zigbee devices, consider a Home Assistant SkyConnect rather than a Conbee stick. In addition to a little more assurance that it'll be supported for longer, it'll be extended for Thread support, perhaps later this year, so a bit of futureproofing is built in as Thread begins displacing older connectivity protocols in new home automation devices.

    • Joacim Linder
      Joacim Linder Ай бұрын +1

      Unfortunately not, when the Hue Bridge gets Matter support, it's still just going to work with their own products. You'll still going to need the Aqara Hub for their respective products. The only positive thing is that you'll have the opportunity to then make like automations using all your devices together. But you'll still need each hub. That's why Home assistant is such a blast.

  • Hakai You
    Hakai You 11 күн бұрын

    The Homey Pro for the win! 1 Epic Hub that works with everything.

  • Charik
    Charik Ай бұрын

    Hi, could you please send the information regarding the Bluetooth dongle you use with HA Yellow? REgards, Great videos.

  • Neha Jain
    Neha Jain Ай бұрын

    Thanks for such an informative video.
    Could you plz do a video on how to connect a Bluetooth speaker and play audio thru it using homeassistant supervised or hassio. Plz consider the request 🙏.

  • Olaf Schermann
    Olaf Schermann 25 күн бұрын

    I didn‘t know HA yellow or nabu casa. Thanks for presenting them.

  • Billy Dickson
    Billy Dickson 29 күн бұрын

    Looking forward to using home assistant, still waiting to be able to buy a RPi 4 CM, they are as rare as hens teeth at the moment, so I'll maybe get to it at the end of 2023. 🤣

  • ToxicRaise
    ToxicRaise 5 күн бұрын

    What happens when for example a Hue light is already been paired to a hub before? Does Home Assistent still find it?

  • Fredrik Rambris
    Fredrik Rambris Ай бұрын

    So will you be using Home Assistant Yellow? Any input on performance once you have a couple of hundred devies?

  • Photelegy
    Photelegy Ай бұрын +1

    What's about the prozessing power of HomeAssistant Yellow?
    I run my HomeAssistant at the moment on my QNAP NAS in a virtual machine.
    Would your recommend to switch to HA Yellow, and if so why?
    I'm talking about prozessing power because of the future and possible plans with local text recognition for Assist.

    • Home Automation Guy
      Home Automation Guy  Ай бұрын +1

      It uses a Raspberry Pi CM 4 as the CPU/Main board. In your situation I'd totally stick with the VM solution, the Yellow is great for beginners who are just getting started with HA

  • J W
    J W Ай бұрын

    Home assistant for a beginner is an utter nightmare. I’ve wasted so many hours trying to get it working and keeping working. I feel like everyday something stops working or it needs restarting.
    Going to wait for matter hubs, probably the SmartThings and go back to basics.

  • Pat Weaver
    Pat Weaver Ай бұрын

    I am currently running HA on a NUC and use a Conbee II for Zigbee. Is there an easy way to move my configuration over to the Yellow or will I have to start from scratch?

    • Josh Fisher
      Josh Fisher Ай бұрын +1

      @Home Automation Guy I would also highly recommend the NUC. The Yellow has to have a CM4 which are also impossible to get right now, at least for retail price anyways. I went from a Pi 3 to a NUC and it was night and day. I don't think a CM4 with an SSD (if you add one) is going to beat a NUC outside power consumption used which someone else already mentioned. Honestly, you can get a cheap used old PC if you get the hardware right (which is the fun part) for what a CM4 is going for these days and that's without the Yellow at retail. I do like that Nabu Casa is branching out with the hardware.
      Running a 5 year old NUC and got a Home Assistant SkyConnect by Nabu Casa so I'm good to go for Matter although I still haven't moved from my Conbee. I am running Zigbee2MQTT and there is just no good migration method that doesn't involve repairing. Might just move to ZHA anyways as it's more integrated and I don't use MQTT as much as I used to. While those words are probably foreign to most, I'm sure you understood every word.
      Matter doesn't seem to be off to a good start and it's still about ecosystems. The one thing Matter didn't solve was a universal app or ecosystem like voice assistant. Home Assistant is that "glue" that already holds everything together where I don't even care about Matter. It has zero benefits to me right now. Maybe in 2 years or so but only time will tell. I am fine with buying cheaper Zigbee products at the moment.

    • Joacim Linder
      Joacim Linder Ай бұрын

      @Christoph Ostermayer no, that's true, sorry. But next time you're safe:-)

    • Christoph Ostermayer
      Christoph Ostermayer Ай бұрын

      @Joacim Linder yeah but not if you used the deconz integration before instead of zha, am I right?

    • Joacim Linder
      Joacim Linder Ай бұрын

      @Christoph Ostermayer
      Not anymore. There's a backup function in ZHA, letting you backup all your ZHA devices and restore them in a click.

    • Christoph Ostermayer
      Christoph Ostermayer Ай бұрын

      The only thing I would come up with is power consumption. You totally can copy over your configstion but you'll need to repair all of your zigbee devices and either go sure they get the same names in zha than before in the deconz integration or you'll adjust every automation and dashboard mention of every device that changes its entity name.
      Lots of manually work I suppose...

  • Zade Keys
    Zade Keys Ай бұрын +2

    As an IT / cloud / network engineer I disagree to some degree. A poorly designed/secured network will still work, it may even seem very fast etc.
    The real issue in my eyes is that most people don't give their network security that much input... Many large companies don't provide WFH staff a separate WiFi point /router/firewall and then they use lots email and SMS based 2FA... Layering up on such issues will become a issue, it's just a matter of time.
    "If you don't schedule maintenance for your environment, your environment will schedule maintenance for you". - Unknown

  • Milorad Menjic
    Milorad Menjic Ай бұрын

    1:27 he did not said hub, he said hoob 🤣🤣

  • UnCoolDad
    UnCoolDad Ай бұрын

    Does this device use standard home assistant or some proprietary fork? Also is it the supervised version?

    • Home Automation Guy
      Home Automation Guy  Ай бұрын +5

      Standard Home Assistant, the supervised OS version. It's actually made by the creators of Home Assistant, so it will always follow best practices

  • Sleeping Phoenix
    Sleeping Phoenix Ай бұрын

    Any tips on finding a Compute Module 4?

  • Mike
    Mike Ай бұрын

    Using a yellow now? Well I guess it was a good ride watching someone manage their smarthome with docker.

    • M
      M Ай бұрын

      You can still flash a Yellow with Pimox and virtualize Home Assistant in there... I look forward to your tutorial 😉

    • Home Automation Guy
      Home Automation Guy  Ай бұрын

      I'm not personally going to use a Yellow. A lot of my new viewers are only just getting into HA so I wanted to show them the easy ways first. I'm personally going to look into the Virtualisation route this time, and run HA OS inside a VM, but still using Docker for things like Frigate and a few other services.
      I personally loved running HA in Docker, but I feel like learning something new this time ;)

    • Blade's Toy Shop
      Blade's Toy Shop Ай бұрын

      Docker is hidden under the hood of the Home Assistant OS and Supervisor.

  • Brendan White
    Brendan White Ай бұрын +1

    Technically Home Assistant is free because the creator of it allowed it to be free. It doesn't need to be open source to be free, as Google Home and Alexa software is technically free software too. You just pay for the hardware. I know, being a little pedantic there :).
    Home Assistant is not just random due to Nabu Casa actually controlling the roadmap for Home Assistant. They control what gets added to Home Assistant. Although Home Assistant is open source, the official Home Assistant code has a defined roadmap and is controlled. That should eliviate concerns about just having a random direction. With that said, I'd actually like Home Assistant to do less releases, but with more accuracy. Having a patch every few days is not really great for what should be primarily set and forget. It makes Home Assistant more maintenance than it should be.
    I am hopign Matter version 2 will be stricter on requirements for interoperability, but given it is the same companies that were the Zigbee Alliance before, I doubt it. Zigbee was supposed to be that unifying protocol when it was released, very similar marketing to Matter....

  • Christoph Ostermayer
    Christoph Ostermayer Ай бұрын

    Ordered my yellow back in Nov'22 and still eagerly waiting for it to arrive... Estimated in March 😒

    • Graham Shaw
      Graham Shaw Ай бұрын

      Ordered mine in Aug 2022 due to ship Mar.

  • thatdude
    thatdude Ай бұрын

    I bought a smart home yellow and still waiting for it . Was supposed to get it in January now it's March and they said they don't think it will even come in March ....😞

    • Home Automation Guy
      Home Automation Guy  Ай бұрын

      😔 Yeh, there have been some delays shipping them out due to the difficulty in getting the components.

  • The Modern Viking
    The Modern Viking Ай бұрын +1

    can you do a comparison whith the Homey Pro 2023 edition? would like your take on it. Aspesialiy as someone planning on my Smarthome

    • You Tube
      You Tube Ай бұрын

      I have the Fibaro HC3 but willing to move to homey pro 2023

    • The Modern Viking
      The Modern Viking Ай бұрын

      @Jamie McInally from what I can find it ain't open source but open platform.

    • Jamie McInally
      Jamie McInally Ай бұрын +1

      It looks pretty user friendly (UI seems similar to Home Assistants dashboards in fact).
      If you want something that's prebuilt maybe it's a good option, but I can't find anything about the OS. Is it closed source? You can get Home Assistant for free on a Raspberry Pi and add some dongles for much cheaper and likely have more control over software. Or a Home Assistant prebuilt like the Yellow would still be cheaper.
      It comes down to how much you want to do yourself. HA isn't that labour intensive but if you really want something preprogrammed but costs 3 times as much, maybe that's the one

  • Nur
    Nur Ай бұрын

    What's home assistant running on?

  • Steven Rerani
    Steven Rerani 7 күн бұрын

    Poor TechFlow 😂😂😂😂

  • Your Property Matters
    Your Property Matters 10 күн бұрын

    I have a hub for hive, broadlink, sonoff, aqara. I have the HA yellow so can I now just turn off all those hubs?

    • Home Automation Guy
      Home Automation Guy  6 күн бұрын

      You can turn off a lot of them. The Sonor and Aqara ones definitely, not sure about Hive or Broadlink - depends what you use them for.

  • Eddy Leonardo
    Eddy Leonardo Ай бұрын

    5 hubs ...in 1 house?! Haiyaaaaaa

  • LasVejas
    LasVejas Ай бұрын +1


    • stompic
      stompic Ай бұрын

      That's still a thing in 2023?

  • Zacharias Enislidis
    Zacharias Enislidis Ай бұрын

    @marzbar referenced....