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Psychology of a Hero: JACK FROST in Rise of the Guardians


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  • Lubystka Olamonola
    Lubystka Olamonola 3 ай бұрын +12156

    I think that Pitch Black is underrated in this movie. He could have Halloween. After all, through the fear and darkness he teaches children to be brave and strong. He offers them one of the best gifts a child can get: courage. You won't get it through constant pampering, no amount of money (from Tooth Fairy), fun activities (searching eggs with Easter Bunny), gifts from Santa and dream world from Sandy Man can ever prepare child for harsh reality. Without him the existence of other character is pointless.

    • ObliviousFantasy
      ObliviousFantasy 10 күн бұрын

      That's so COOL and so true oh my god.

    • VulLord666
      VulLord666 25 күн бұрын

      "Fear makes allies of us all." - Doctor Who
      It's ultimately pitch who helped Jack into finding his purpose and learning his origins. It's Pitch who backed the kids into a corner and gave them a reason to truly believe in the guardians and to fight for their own happiness and not just be protected. How we respond to fear and trauma makes us better people and grow (generally speaking; not always).

    • perkidanman
      perkidanman 27 күн бұрын

      Yeah, I felt the message of the movie was “discomfort = bad”. Discomfort is necessary for growth. It shouldn’t have been about sides.

    • Dakota Stein
      Dakota Stein Ай бұрын

      fear is not an evil thing...
      somone once told me that evil is not the oposite of good,rather it is the absence of it.
      hense why pitch's evil could not make something from nothing...he had to corrupt something that already existed (sand mans dreams).
      it makes me wonder what Pitch's genuine purpose was...if he was something more before falling

  • Lena Storm
    Lena Storm 3 ай бұрын +925

    19:07 I love how Jack doesn’t pity himself or is even sad for his death. Not for a single second. He’s so happy to have saved his sister, he doesn’t even care that he died.

  • Chlo Gaff
    Chlo Gaff 3 ай бұрын +327

    For me, I always felt that Jack and Elsa were a good match as they’ve both been through isolation because of their abilities. They both have strong sibling arcs as part of the story line as Jack sacrificed his life for his sister and Elsa sacrifices her whole life to keep Anna safe. They both felt rejected as a result of their ice powers and they have both overcome the fear they feel of themselves.
    I personally feel a Jack and Elsa relationship would be healthy for both of them as they would probably spend the majority of their time trying to show Care for one another. And reinforcing the little things of their powers. Possibly the formation of the snow flakes take. The icicles on the window they created. The Snow day at the village gets to enjoy.
    I think Jack being an outgoing person may be of help to Elsa as well as she spent so long on her own (through her own choice, of course),but his outgoing ability to talk to people may be good for her on a day-to-day basis. If Jack went around Arrendale, talking to villagers, making kids laugh, playing with them. Going around with Jack may show a side of Elsa to her people that they would love to see as he’d try pull her into all his activities and mischief

    • Elizabeth Soares
      Elizabeth Soares 2 күн бұрын

      I wanted to add that Jack and Elsa’s character dynamics also remind me of Felix and Calhoun. Like this super outgoing puppy of a dude and a more orderly and put-together girl, and it somehow works

    • Eyterna
      Eyterna 10 күн бұрын

      @ObliviousFantasy lololol! Different platform of fan appreciation, same result! :D Love it!

    • ObliviousFantasy
      ObliviousFantasy 10 күн бұрын +1

      @Eyterna LMAO I was swayed by cosplayers I used to watch on KZclip

    • ObliviousFantasy
      ObliviousFantasy 10 күн бұрын

      Wow you actually came up with some good stuff. That's pretty cool, Pun intended.

    • Chlo Gaff
      Chlo Gaff 15 күн бұрын +2

      @Aria S being honest my initial reasoning wasn’t based on the grounds of a romantic relationship I just kinda meant them interacting in general which could easily be seen from either a platonic standpoint or romantic.
      For either person I’m sure it wouldn’t be easy but in any relationship there’s always snags from time to time. I just felt maybe they could relate to each other initially and grow to know more if each other

  • barney chill
    barney chill 3 ай бұрын +1508

    It's funny that you addressed the fan ships of Elsa x Jack, but there are other fan theories of Jack Frost which are super heartwarming. There's a theory that Jaime is the descendant of Jack Frost's sister, based on the character's physical similarities being passed down. So the idea of his sister's relatives helping Jack to find his center is super awesome to me

    • Rei Linn
      Rei Linn 5 күн бұрын +1

      @Gremlin In Blue I didn't know that, Thank you!

    • Gremlin In Blue
      Gremlin In Blue 5 күн бұрын +1

      @Rei Linn The books are really good, but I'm pretty sure that according to both the movie makers and the author that the movie has a different canon than the books, hence why Jack is a human that falls through the ice after saving his sister rather than getting the two kids away and getting dragged in by the serphant. He's nightlight in the books, but not in the movie

    • Rei Linn
      Rei Linn 19 күн бұрын

      @Rachael Crum I know they're on Audible and probably Amazon as well

    • Rachael Crum
      Rachael Crum 19 күн бұрын

      @Rei Linn Wait, where can I read these books? This actually sounds really interesting and I don't know a whole lot of the lore surrounding Jack Frost.

    • Rei Linn
      Rei Linn 2 ай бұрын +25

      Pichu Elric, so she's technically his adopted sister. Her family took Jack in because he was trying to learn what it meant to be human cause he's actually a star or something like that and he's actually way older than we think! He's older than the man in the moon, he was Manny's guard when he was born and he's actually battled Pitch several times over the years and that's how he originally met the guardians.
      Also the scene of him saving his sister went a little different in the books.

  • IceNixie0102
    IceNixie0102 3 ай бұрын +359

    "He sees me! HE SEES ME!!" makes me cry EVERY. TIME. Even just watching this clip in your review.

    • Rei Linn
      Rei Linn 5 күн бұрын

      Me too! I sob everytime I see or even just hear it 😭💜

    • Guinea Pig Everyday
      Guinea Pig Everyday 6 күн бұрын +1

      jesus christ i was watching this nonchalant and seconds later tears streaming down my face, haven't cried this easily in a while

    • Acebur
      Acebur 13 күн бұрын +4

      That’s easily one of my favourite scenes, just seeing the clip makes me want to watch the movie again, but they took it off of Netflix :[

    • Peij
      Peij 15 күн бұрын +5

      Same. It makes my chest tight too. I can feel his awe and his desperation for it not to be in his head. Such a beautifully crafted scene!!

  • mrs LUndY
    mrs LUndY 3 ай бұрын +1004

    I feel like the Boogeyman and his horses are very symbolic for anxiety, depression or any kind of disorder that sucks your energy, like your fears chasing you anywhere, so when there is someone comforting to you like Jack is to other children, you have the courage to fight your fears and overcome your anxiety. However when you are alone without those "guardians" you are more likely to not be able to deal with your problems. I really love the concept of fun, it's also like, when you're brave enough and positive enough to turn your fears into fun, or cover them with healing feelings, then you will be able to overcome them

    • Natalia Panfichi
      Natalia Panfichi 28 күн бұрын +2

      @Quest _101 I mean he probably wasn't born evil because he looks like a normal kid when he was younger and probably has some childhood trauma because he and his brother grew up as orphans, I mean he must have cared about Caleb before the "betrayal".

    • Starthing125
      Starthing125 3 ай бұрын +20

      Also, his dark horses are night mares.
      "Slow clap"

    • Quest _101
      Quest _101 3 ай бұрын +4

      @Natalia PanfichiLMAO belos tragic? No every bad thing that happened was caused by him and and that started when he literally stabbed and murdered his older brother.

    • Natalia Panfichi
      Natalia Panfichi 3 ай бұрын +8

      Pitch is like belos from the owl house because despite kinda having a tragic backstory he is still an evil villain.

  • AfroditeOhki1
    AfroditeOhki1 3 ай бұрын +3208

    "That's not it, you dummies"
    "Please don't insult our audience"
    "That's not it, you wonderful people"
    I love these two.

    • Joy
      Joy 3 ай бұрын +1

      That was my favorite tooo! 🤣

    • MadreTerra555
      MadreTerra555 3 ай бұрын +1

      Well, that correction truly helped. 😅

    • Boba Fett
      Boba Fett 3 ай бұрын +1

      So funny

    • Aki
      Aki 3 ай бұрын +22

      I fully expected to hear "you wonderful dummies"

    • Jane Doe X
      Jane Doe X 3 ай бұрын +6

      With my disorder , I HAVE NO CENTER ! That's the effing problem.

  • Tim Conner
    Tim Conner 3 ай бұрын +142

    I always thought of Pitch Black as someone who forgot his center, at that time kids needed someone to tell them that they should be afraid of the dark. All kinds of things with claws and pointed teeth back then.

    • MichiganFresh 0013
      MichiganFresh 0013 8 күн бұрын +2

      Right. Imagine being out there trying to help kids gain courage, but instead you watch them fear you more and more. It would be hard to hold onto your true self.

      DISTRUST US 15 күн бұрын +2

      i think pitch is more of some sort of primordial concept. we fear the unknown, and therefore kids especially fear the dark. you can't see jack in there lol but with modern era there's less of telling children scary stories about unknown entities to keep them in check and more of practical teaching.i.e anything mildly scary is not child appropriate especially all those old fairy tales, so naturally someone like pitch just isn't believed in anymore

    • Aria S
      Aria S Ай бұрын +9

      Interesting theory, you might want to read the books though... there's a whole can of worms with Pitch that is opened there. Plus they're a fast read too. I loved them, if you loved this movie I think you might at least enjoy them too.

  • Maggie Noel
    Maggie Noel 3 ай бұрын +60

    I thought Chris Pines voice suited Jack really well. It brings out his confidence and makes him seem more extroverted, and I don’t think I could picture him with a different voice. He’s also technically a late teenager, not a 12 year old so it makes sense. Great video though!

    • Fiery Apple
      Fiery Apple 16 күн бұрын +9

      I always thought that that rasp in his voice suits him because he died in a freezing water.

    • Isabelle Harvey
      Isabelle Harvey 20 күн бұрын +14

      I agree. I do think it sounds older than he is, but I think it makes the character seem more mature/wise. He is a teenager technically, but he has been around for 100's of years and a childish voice would discredit that experience and his ability to be a guardian.

  • Nekoboy56
    Nekoboy56 3 ай бұрын +589

    For those that don't know, these are based on books and in the books each guardian, including pitch, had a backstory. They changed things ofc for movie purposes of course. But that's why Santa is Russian.

    • Kankarii
      Kankarii Ай бұрын +4

      @Josh Red Involuntary war crimes but yes. As far as I remember it’s one of the reasons Bunny hates him so much since the Pooka (his species) died because of his actions as the puppet of the fearlings

    • Josh Red
      Josh Red Ай бұрын

      @Kankarii so basically loads of warcrimes

    • Kankarii
      Kankarii Ай бұрын +11

      @Josh Red In the books Pitch was a general (then named Kozmotis Pitchiner) who fought against the fearlings. When they were imprisoned he was charged with guarding them. They slowly drove him insane and in the end tricked him into opening their prison by convincing him his daughter was trapped inside. They possessed him and turned him into Pitch Black turning him against his allays and using him as a weapon. I don’t think it was explicitly stated but this ended in several genocides

    • Josh Red
      Josh Red 2 ай бұрын

      @DarthYodaJammin tell me more please?

    • DarthYodaJammin
      DarthYodaJammin 3 ай бұрын +6

      They're weird, lowkey. I love them to death, but like...the space stuff is on another level, man.

  • Amber Hynes
    Amber Hynes 3 ай бұрын +179

    This movie is criminally underrated. Each character is so fascinating and unique. It’s such a joy to watch, and I feel like I notice something new each time I see it. I’ve also had this long-running theory that Jamie and his family are descendants of Jack’s sister, since they have similar features and Jamie looks a lot like a younger Jack. I think that would make this movie even more endearing, that Jack somehow knew deep down that they were his family

  • NiaJustNia
    NiaJustNia 3 ай бұрын +293

    The books give Pitch Black a more rounded character with a potential for redemption, and I'd love if they'd explored that more. He's not inherently evil, he was grieving the loss of his wife and daughter when the shadows possessed him in his moment of grief induced weakness

    • Aria S
      Aria S Ай бұрын

      @NiaJustNia I HAVE read them. I know about Pitch's past, I know about the "dedication to his daughter & wife" but I STILL did not assume what was going to happen in the book - prior to reading it - DUE TO THE DEDICATION PIECE. Yes Joyce is up front about it, but it's like. Okay, so you're making it about her... Frank made Wizard of Oz about his dead daughter too but what happened in the story and what happened in real life aren't parallel. So then, knowing THAT before I read the book, why would I just assume what the fates of Pitch's wife and daughter were gonna be? The answer was, I didn't and no one else has a reason to either. Did I think it might be bad? Sure, did I consider it would be a "temporary bad" ? Absolutely. The fact I have read all the books justifies my discussion on the matter. Don't assume that just because I disagree with you that I haven't read the books.

    • NiaJustNia
      NiaJustNia Ай бұрын

      @Aria S He literally tells you it's about his daughter, I'm not just assuming. Joyce is very open about it. The books are also dedicated to his wife and son. I think maybe you should just read the books before going on a tirade, you'll hopefully understand more what I'm talking about.

    • Aria S
      Aria S Ай бұрын

      @NiaJustNia Even so, you could have left the information on what happened to him as ambiguous by just saying "he's not actually evil" and left it at that. Also, I disagree with you on the whole "acknowledgements" thing. I've seen acknowledgements before to those who have lost loved ones, but that doesn't mean their books were all about grief, acceptance, etc. It might be true for that particular book, but I wouldn't say that fact alone gave away anything. When I read it the first time (after I read the acknowledgments) I was like... okay so this is like Wizard of Oz, it's dedicated to a dead child... that's cool, means she's in here somewhere as a character... wonder what her role is. I did NOT expect the whole escapade that happened WITH said character.

    • Aria S
      Aria S Ай бұрын +1

      @Phoebus Apollo It's not an accurate spoiler. As someone who has read the books, I can tell you that Nia did not actually get it right about the whole incident with Pitch. Go read the books and you'll find that Nia glossed over it and didn't actually tell you too much of anything that was important.... or entirely accurate.

    • Нестеренко Анастасия
      Нестеренко Анастасия 2 ай бұрын +12

      I actually thought the Guardians could accept Pitch at some point. Nightmares are as essential as happy dreams, after all. Sandman (recent series) explored this a bit.

  • NotALotOfColonial SpaghettiToGoAround
    NotALotOfColonial SpaghettiToGoAround 3 ай бұрын +1469

    I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING AT THE "I did nothing... I could be replaced with a syringe" the joke was funny enough on its own but holy shit is jonathan's laugh contagious

    • Eyterna
      Eyterna 18 күн бұрын +1

      i laughed so hard my husband wondered what i was laughing at and i got to replay it, even he did a big chuckle. XD Alan's face as well when he says it! XD

    • Miranda
      Miranda 2 ай бұрын +2

      i vomited a little from laughter

    • jupamoers
      jupamoers 3 ай бұрын +13

      He covered the truth in a joke xD

    • Jason Garcia
      Jason Garcia 3 ай бұрын +9

      Me too that was too funny 😂😂

  • Hannah Orozco
    Hannah Orozco 3 ай бұрын +40

    Both Elsa and jack grew up in isolation and then made friends after they figured out an important part of themselves. I feel like they would bond over that. Jack would help Elsa learn how to have childish fun while Elsa would show Jack how healthy even a little structure in life can be.

    • Aria S
      Aria S Ай бұрын +3

      Until Jack realized Elsa doesn't trust him. Pretty sure that would be a deal breaker.

  • AriyaLauna
    AriyaLauna 3 ай бұрын +65

    Your Santa impression! That was incredible.
    I think the reason Pitch failed with Jack is that he didn't understand that Jack is scared, often, but never gives into it. He was scared when he saved his sister, you can see him almost give into it. He wasn't scared, exactly, with the sledding incident with Jaime, but even in his mischief he has perfected how to keep the kid safe, naturally cautious. And both the Guardians and Pitch definitely scared him - but he squared up to them as well. And it's a part of himself that he was constantly giving to others. Empathizing with the fear, then redirecting that fear to something else. He is water to Pitch's oil, they might jumble together a bit, but would never mix.
    All that said, Pitch has got to be one of the most intriguing villains to me. I feel like he really has a place in the lives of children (fear does lead to survival), and I think Jack and Pitch WOULD be a smashing team. A touch of fear, a touch of fun -- new places discovered, new inventions made, new connections made. Going out of that comfort zone to do something amazing. Pitch and Santa would be a great team for the same reasons. I'm not the biggest fan of redemption arcs, but I feel like this could be one where the guardians realize they were wrong about Pitch, and Pitch gets to find a way to work with his abilities that is satisfying and strengthening for everyone.
    Yeah, I love this movie. Maybe think a bit too much about it! (No! Shipping!)

    • Aria S
      Aria S Ай бұрын

      @AriyaLauna That'd be nice, but since it bombed... well, there's fanfiction of that. I've seen plenty of it.

    • AriyaLauna
      AriyaLauna Ай бұрын +3

      @Aria S I did read the books. They are one of two where I actually enjoy the movie way more than the books. They're barely even parallel stories. I'd like to see the movie universe explored and expanded on, and since it's a kid's movie - I'd LOVE to see a movie where fear is explored and seen as a good thing to use instead of vilified and seen as something purely bad.

    • Aria S
      Aria S Ай бұрын +1

      Go read the books and you'll probably find out why a redemption arc would be a very long movie... because there's more to him than just his personality at play. That's all I'm going to say on it because I don't believe in spoilers.

    • LepantoRosary1571
      LepantoRosary1571 Ай бұрын +1

      Ooh brilliant! Think of all the best adventure stories--a mix of fun and danger!

  • Elder-wood Silverstein
    Elder-wood Silverstein 3 ай бұрын +111

    21:25 What I like about this moment is that Jaimie started to believe in Jack without help. When the snowflake fell on his head, he remembered what his mom told him earlier and put two and two together. He didn't need to be told about Jack, he just figured it out on his own. I thought that was pretty clever.

  • Serenity Gaming
    Serenity Gaming 3 ай бұрын +17

    Jack shares a lot of the qualities that Anna has. He's fun, extroverted, cares deeply about people, protective... I think Elsa would see this, and appreciate it, and find an even deeper connection with Jack thanks to his magical powers, they don't *need* to be similar to hers, but they can understand each other through this similarity as well. I think saying that "Elsa is this way, so she wouldn't like him" can't be a complete argument, because, again, Jack has a lot of the same energy as Anna, someone that Elsa has always been close to, and loved deeply, so Idon't think it's much of a stretch to say she'd find a connection with Jack, even if it isn't a completely romantic one.

  • Mim'sChannel
    Mim'sChannel 3 ай бұрын +471

    I must say it's really nice to see non-queer people recognize how ace (i'd add aro too) coded Elsa is! It kinda made me emotional not gonna lie, it's easy to feel like the dumb one when everyone else is obsessed with the idea that every single character must date. I really appreciate what you guys do, thank you 🥰

    • Miriam Wong
      Miriam Wong Ай бұрын +1

      @Mim'sChannel i mean it definitely doesn't rule it out as a possibility for her *future*. I just meant that as a character, she wasnt given a romantic interests bc she's aroace I think she just wasn't given a romantic interest because the creators had something else in mind for her. And that's strictly speaking from a writing and character development standpoint. As someone who is going through their own self-discovery journey, I personally believe she can't be either right now due to everything she's been through, but in the future I can see her finding out she is either or both! Or even Demi! I'd love to see that too.

    • Mim'sChannel
      Mim'sChannel Ай бұрын +2

      @Miriam Wong i dont think her having other priorities or not wanting a relationship exclude the possibility of her being AroAce, i personnaly believe it's a mix of both! Some AroAces want to date, some dont, i think she's part of that second category

    • Miriam Wong
      Miriam Wong Ай бұрын

      As someone who thinks they're ace maybe... I dont really think Elsa is ace or aro, I just think she has different priorities and she has been alone most of her life and afraid of hurting people she loves. He lack of a romantic interest could just stem from the fact that she either wouldn't be ready for that and therefore an unhealthy display or because her character is just not about that. But I don't think we have enough clues or anything to come to a conclusion that she is anything but just Elsa

    • Albedo_Aria
      Albedo_Aria 2 ай бұрын +7

      Yeah there’s just some characters that don’t feel like they’d want to be in a romantically relationship, and Elsa is one of them

    • Phoebus Apollo
      Phoebus Apollo 2 ай бұрын +2

      @Pichu Elric yeah? A bunch of people said pretty much what I said just with different sexualities and stuff ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ if other people can just say a few sentences and dip why do I have to explain myself?
      I wasn’t even trying to argue for my side, just wanted to say my opinion

  • The Basement Weeb
    The Basement Weeb 3 ай бұрын +3257

    The fact that they addressed the JackxElsa shippers might be one of my favorite moments on the internet

    • Peij
      Peij 15 күн бұрын

      @Time Dragon I think she still is implied to prefer order and being only around her very closest people (Anna, Kristoff, and Sven), not anyone and everyone always running about and having fun. I do think she would occasionally enjoy some fun, but only for a bit before she would be ready to do something more calm. Not a good fit for Jack who never seems out of energy or excitement to see everyone and play with anyone

    • Natalia Panfichi
      Natalia Panfichi 28 күн бұрын

      @Mqgawario I mean the acts and looks like an older kid or young teenager and elsa looks and acts more mature and responsible. Just my opinion

    • Jessicanimation
      Jessicanimation Ай бұрын +2

      Exactly why I can only view them as platonic friends and not a romantic couple. This one Jelsa shipper argued that while Jack is 14 in the movie, he’s older in the books. But like, people still ship the DreamWorks Jack Frost?? I don’t see a difference.

    • giggle_snort
      giggle_snort Ай бұрын +1

      Listen. I don't hate the idea of Jelsa at face value. Two ice/snow who both feel alone in the world coming together? That has potential to be beautiful. BUT. Elsa is 21 (or 24, now that Frozen 2 has come out), and Jack is like 16-17 max. Um... no. No, thank you.

  • Carnival
    Carnival 3 ай бұрын +29

    I actually love Chris Pine's voice for Jack, I think it fits him perfectly 🙌

  • Jia Bhatnagar
    Jia Bhatnagar 3 ай бұрын +29

    I think my center would be happiness. I want people to be happy - being goofy to make them laugh, thoughtful about what I say so as to not hurt anyone. And I want me to be happy - the way I dress, what I do, how I think and things like that. I’ve never actually thought about this, this is interesting!
    Also, as an ace girl who never picked up on the aro/ace coding in Elsa, thank you so much for pointing that out! Seeing more representation out there is so awesome- I always thought we only had Merida for Disney princesses lol

  • Verda
    Verda 3 ай бұрын +238

    Every time North says he has big eyes full of wonder i start to cry i cant control it bro its second nature at this point cuz its such an amazing thing to have as a core to see wonder hope happiness and joy in everything you look at

  • KPBee
    KPBee 3 ай бұрын +14

    I love the perspective of “go through what you aren’t to figure out what you ARE”. I have gone through that, without realizing, so many times in my life. I had a different major before realizing “hey, being a teacher is awesome!” And went through many identities before coming to terms that I am a nonbinary boy who is aroace. I love these parts of me because I know of how hard I worked to find them :)

  • Glun258
    Glun258 3 ай бұрын +87

    Props to whoever made the subtitles compatible with the definition cards! That's so good

  • Monica Kneusel
    Monica Kneusel 3 ай бұрын +1393

    I feel like such an important part of this story and conversation is realizing the inner turmoil that comes with someone bad/harmful admiring and relating to you. Because Jack is a fundamentally good person, but his experience is so similar to Pitch that they share common ground. And that is INTENSELY uncomfortable. And it might make you re-evaluate yourself. I believe that this film portrays that really well, because we see it get to Jack for a minute, and then he makes a new choice.

    • Stick
      Stick 3 ай бұрын +4

      That's a good point- it's happened to me multiple times that I've seen similar traits to mine in people I wanted no association with whatsoever, and it can be tough depending on how terrible the person is, but dealing with similarities between you and people you view as bad is nessecary to move on and grow up.

    • Milena
      Milena 3 ай бұрын +13

      @kipandren So, Pitch was possessed by the forces of evil who used his love for his daughter to drive him mad. He needs exorcism and therapy.

    • Monica Kneusel
      Monica Kneusel 3 ай бұрын +22

      @kipandren Absolutely!!!! Thanks for adding that nuance!!

    • kipandren
      kipandren 3 ай бұрын +142

      I really loved the duality of the two characters when I first watched this movie. You really captured it; Jack was deeply disturbed by their shared experiences. Pitch is one of the few people who really understood Jack's experience, yet is clearly a villain. It's so important to remember, however, that it isn't Pitch's experiences that make him a bad/harmful person, anymore than they make Jack a good/benevolent one. Having bad things happen to us is not what defines us. It's the choices we make in the context of those experiences that defines who we are. Pitch is not a villain because he was isolated; he is a villain because he chose to hurt people. Jack instead chose to help others, even though he receives no thanks for his kindness. This is what makes him a hero, and they did a great job of showing us this in the movie.

  • InvaderHog
    InvaderHog 3 ай бұрын +18

    I think people don't think of it that way, but I would say my center is my absolute stability. People think that because I walk the exact same path every day and do the same thing every day that I am boring (which that's fair I probably am) but stability is something that can be critical because I am the rock in my family, everyone can come to me and everyone knows what to expect from me. I have never changed my feelings about the people I care about or the way I treat people, everyone knows what they get with me and I think that can be comforting when people really don't know what to expect sometimes. I am a solid little rock in my own little world.

  • Denise Claire K
    Denise Claire K 3 ай бұрын +17

    A bit late to the party, but I think my center is “hope” or “being hopeful”. Like Alan, I’m a storyteller - specifically a writer. I like writing, and I’ve always hoped that people would find comfort in my my stories. I’d also like my stories to make an impact on the world. Basically teach everyone that “someday, whenever that is, we can make our world a better place.” Hopeful that the world will be better for our future generations. Other than that, I’ve noticed that even in the worst situations in my life, I never gave up hope. Some part of me knew that this wasn’t the end, and so I kept moving forward. Even my sister said the same thing. So yeah, I guess “hope” is my center :D

  • Chelsey Dolbec
    Chelsey Dolbec 3 ай бұрын +64

    This movie will forever be one of my favorites to just watch around the Christmas tree late at night. It really hits home for me and makes me tear up. Also, Alan, you and Jonathan, and everyone behind the scenes of cinema therapy have helped fans, me included, so much with finding ourselves and helping us understand our mental health. Every time you guys release a video, I can somehow relate to their movie struggles and you guys' struggles as well which makes me feel way better about what I go through on a daily basis. You guys have become my safe space and I think many other people who watch Cinema Therapy can agree with me on this. You guys are amazing, and your channel means so much to me (and others) so keep doing what you guys are doing and we will continue to support you along the way. Stay Safe and healthy!
    Also, just wanted to say that I, at 19 years old, have not found my center. As someone who is still growing and has mental health struggles, I definitely need more time to think about it. However, I believe it might be related to being supportive and wanting to constantly please everyone.

  • Frost Fox
    Frost Fox 3 ай бұрын +5

    Such a good movie. It's by far my favorite. I love all the books too, they explain so much that the movie didn't even touch on, like how Pitch became the boogie man and Bunny's whole backstory is just so tragic. This is actually my comfort movie, my friends and family turn it on when I have panic attacks and it calms me down.
    And just for the record...I would never want anyone else playing Jack, I think chris did such a good job.

  • Megan McIntyre
    Megan McIntyre 3 ай бұрын +19

    My theory for Elsa and JackFrost has to do with Jack helping Elsa find her worth in having people around her. Elsa is always concerned with how other people see her and Jack doesn’t really care because he lived in a world where he was free to use magic. Jack would be able to help Elsa face her fears. In turn Elsa would help Jack with defining his own purpose. That giving kids amazing snow days without losing a tooth or ruining Easter is what she could bring out of him. I don’t know if I would find this a foundation for a romantic relationship but circumstances and trials could bring them together. They would have to choose each other and that’s what makes shipping so much fun.

    • Aria S
      Aria S Ай бұрын

      Except that Elsa doesn't trust anyone. That's something that's pretty hard to over look, friends or not.

  • VidralliaArchives
    VidralliaArchives 3 ай бұрын +1962

    I'm kind of surprised Alan didn't make any comment about the textures in this movie, because there is so much detail. The feathers on the tooth fairy, the character's individual iris patterns, even the difference in their fingernails. It's a bit crazy.

    • Murren Kelly
      Murren Kelly 3 ай бұрын +4

      @VidralliaArchives I like the irises and eye coloring for sure. I just specifically don’t think the eyelashes work as well.

    • VidralliaArchives
      VidralliaArchives 3 ай бұрын +22

      @Murren Kelly Really? I loved the eyes. I loved the fact that they looked a little more detailed.

    • Ribotto Studios
      Ribotto Studios 3 ай бұрын +32

      @Murren Kelly I think it works for Jack. I also like his snowflake irises

    • Murren Kelly
      Murren Kelly 3 ай бұрын +17

      I like all the texture except the eyes. To be honest I think the eyelashes are a bit overdone and don’t quite fit with the simpler face animation.

    • Ribotto Studios
      Ribotto Studios 3 ай бұрын +96

      the frost textures alone not just in Jack's hoodie but how his powers work are sooooooooooo PRETTY

  • DoctorAwesome11
    DoctorAwesome11 Ай бұрын +2

    There is actually a great fanfiction that was written about how the two of them fit together. It's when Jack was still newer to being the Spirit of Winter and Elsa being in isolation and unknowing and scared of her powers. It's how because she had magic, she could see him without believing and the efforts she made to have people believe in him while he helped her become more outgoing and sure in herself and her powers (this was before any Frozen sequels). It is a wonderful story and makes the two of them connect over their shared abilities but also brings understanding and growth to the both of them. There is even talk of how Jack is eternally young as Elsa grows older (they get married and have children) and the problems and such that brings to their relationship later. It gives the best reason over why they work together, connecting initially over Elsa's fear of her abilities and that they force isolation, while instilling a purpose and responsibility in Jack that he hadn't had yet.

  • Mikisoq Knudsen
    Mikisoq Knudsen 3 ай бұрын +11

    Pitchs backstory is really sad.
    He was ordered to guard nightmares, and had to leave his children and wife behind.
    The longer he guards nightmares the more he hears his children suffer in agony, pain or just crying a lot from those nightmares until they just devoured his mind and corrupt him and he let the nightmares go and become master of them.

    • Aria S
      Aria S Ай бұрын

      @Mikisoq Knudsen rude.

    • Mikisoq Knudsen
      Mikisoq Knudsen Ай бұрын +1

      @Aria S Then stop being on the internet, its filled with spoilers.

    • Aria S
      Aria S Ай бұрын

      @Mikisoq Knudsen Since the age I was taught. I'm an author and honestly, you're the only person I've ever met who doesn't feel the least bit of offense at being spoiled on something that they would instead find more joyful if they found out themselves rather than being told. Takes all kinds I guess, but MOST don't appreciate spoilers - regardless if it's a book, movie, or video game.

    • Mikisoq Knudsen
      Mikisoq Knudsen Ай бұрын

      @Aria S I would be intrigued and want to read. I am a book worm. I read so many books in my life and I would appreciate if one person out there told me about 1 person in the book that I have not read before, I may want to read that book.
      Tell me. Do you read?

    • Aria S
      Aria S Ай бұрын

      @Mikisoq Knudsen I hardly doubt that would matter to you if someone did that to you.

  • William Stollery
    William Stollery 3 ай бұрын +12

    One of the many reasons I love your channel so much is because, well, I'm very much like Alan. I also work in film (well, TV), and my center is storytelling. I was watching this, wondering what mine would be, realised it'd be storytelling... and then 5 minutes later Alan says that's his.
    I know this probably sounds weird, but I'm so grateful you guys do this; trying to build a career in the industry is really tough, and seeing Alan managing to make it work, and still finding joy it in, and helping people through it is what I aspire to do. Watching you guys, and Alan in particular, makes me realise that it's actually possible. So thank you both ❤️
    Also, you help show that it's okay to be a nerd, which is maybe just as important 😂

  • Ann
    Ann 3 ай бұрын +17

    You two made me laugh a lot in a not-fun day, thank you so much

    • Cinema Therapy
      Cinema Therapy  3 ай бұрын +6

      You are so welcome! I hope your day gets better.

  • Nekoboy56
    Nekoboy56 3 ай бұрын +31

    No matter how many times I see it. Norths exposition there at 10:30 always makes me cry.

    • Mo Mo
      Mo Mo 2 ай бұрын +1

      Nah dude literally same. Havent seen this movie in years and yet the moment norths exposition came up i was battling tears lol its a beautiful scene

  • Madeline
    Madeline 3 ай бұрын +1058

    ok but the side bit with Alan being a 'child-creator' and getting a five-minute therapy pitstop in the middle of the show had me in stitches, you guys' friendship is one of the purest things on earth lmao

    • Maryannlupus
      Maryannlupus 3 ай бұрын +3

      I completely agree!

    • Clnne •
      Clnne • 3 ай бұрын +21

      i just finished this segment and it is an absolute joy ride. these two are hilarious and lovely

  • Kat Reardon
    Kat Reardon 3 ай бұрын +6

    I really feel like my center is creativity. I just love creating things with anything I can get my hands on. Whether that's sculptures in art class or writing stories. I love creating.

  • FriendlyBroccoli
    FriendlyBroccoli 3 ай бұрын +8

    I think my center is curiosity. I've always been really into school and learning and when I was younger, I would read so many books about animals and about the different kinds of countries and flowers. But I think I'm starting to realise that curiosity is more than gaining knowledge. I think it's also about seeing the interesting part of everything. And being genuinely interested in getting to know people and how they are at their core and whatakes them unique and special and interesting. And it's about sharing this spark that I have with others. Seeing the world in its diversity and complexity and beauty. I'm really confused these days because I'm really questioning who I am, but I think that if not the core, my curiosity is a huge part of who I am and what makes me me.

    • hedgehogs hill
      hedgehogs hill Ай бұрын

      Oh I now think I might have too curiosity as my Center... I am the "OMG look! It's a BEETLE!" (Most boring, common beetle and I can't even identify it) type of person.
      Mixed with: u fall into mud and u are not ready to stand up? Let me show you how to make a mudangel :)

  • AnimeROL
    AnimeROL 3 ай бұрын +10

    I think my centre is compassion. I went into medicine because I wanted to bring kindness and warmth to my patients care. I’ve become the friend mom because I naturally fit into the role of caregiver and listener. But I’m not good at giving myself compassion but if I’m talking to literally anyone else going through the exact same thing as me, I can give it to them no problem 🤷‍♀️

  • Chelnah the Egghead
    Chelnah the Egghead 3 ай бұрын +7

    I’ve loved a lot of the points people have brought up about Jack and Elsa’s similarities (each of them having little sisters, their struggles with loneliness, etc.). However, the biggest thing I see working for them is what both of their character arcs (or at least in the first movie for Elsa) essentially culminate to: overcoming fear through fun and love. Both struggle with connecting to people (for separate reasons) and both are also at a great risk of people fearing them since snow and ice can be dangerous substances. By remembering the love they share with their sisters, Jack and Elsa are able to move past fear and share the best parts of their icy powers-which is having fun! (E.g. Jack encouraging the kids to have a snowball fight and play together; Elsa making a rink for the whole kingdom to ice skate on.) I don’t know, but I just feel like they’d be able to get along better than people think. I mean, they’re also fictional, so any of this matter in the grand scheme of things? Probably not, but it sure is fun to speculate!

  • Nicoline Andersen
    Nicoline Andersen 3 ай бұрын +16

    My center is deffinetly creativity. I've been creating ever since I was a child (am now in my early twenties) and it's what's brought me the most joy, kept me balanced and gotten me through the toughest years of my life. Having something practical and intricate to turn to that gave me the ability to take an idea that poped into my head and magically make it appear in the real world has always been the number one thing that has blown me away about myself.

    • whitemib
      whitemib 2 ай бұрын +2

      That's really one of the most wonderful centers there could ve been..ur centers special...I wish you good luck

  • Ribotto Studios
    Ribotto Studios 3 ай бұрын +4479

    Jack really suffers when you think about it. 300 years of isolation? That can do a number on anyone's psyche. He had every right to turn on the Guardians, to not offer his help. And hell, they BLACKMAIL HIM INTO HELPING IN THE BEGINNING. But the fact that he's the one who restores Jamie's faith in them, shows how much stronger he is than people gave him credit for. The guardians are supposed to look after children. But they failed in looking after Jack, who is a forever child, being I believe 17 ish. So, he does count as not being an adult.
    He was always my favorite character because I loved that even though he was all about having fun, when it comes to it, he focuses up and takes on the challenge and gets serious. He honestly kinda reminds me of me. Also my center is support. I always wondered why I was drawn to the administrative assistant role, despite being very shy, and it's a very personable role. And I like how you describe why you're a therapist. "Because I'd be terrible at anything else" I just like helping people. My entire career is customer service base. I've never had a bad experience, because of my disposition.
    Also also I'm gonna make a final edit I LOVE JACK'S DESIGN. God just everything about it. "Jack looks like he's frozen." nailed it. That's absolutely the look they're going for with him considering he drowns then becomes the spirit of winter. I love his fluffy white hair, I love how PALE his skin looks, almost death like which makes sense given he drowned. THE FROST TEXTURE ON HIS HOODIE ARE YOU KIDDING?! And Jack's personality is just awesome. I love at the end how protective he is of Jamie. Those big brother instincts coming into play.

    • NoMoreNormalcy
      NoMoreNormalcy 3 ай бұрын

      For a second, I though you were one of my IRL friends. 😂 All of what you said seems to ring true and I'd expect as a rant from him. 😂😂

    • NiaJustNia
      NiaJustNia 3 ай бұрын +1

      If we go by the books, Jack is essentially eternally a 14 year old boy

    • Ribotto Studios
      Ribotto Studios 3 ай бұрын +1

      @Jane Doe X I'm not too familiar with it, mostly through fanfic so I might get fanon and canon mixed up, but Pitch had a daughter, something happened to her, and I think she became like Mother Nature something along those lines.

    • Jane Doe X
      Jane Doe X 3 ай бұрын

      @msk Not familiar with the film or lore - though I now KNOW I NEED IT, TODAY ! What's with Black's daughter?

    • Ribotto Studios
      Ribotto Studios 3 ай бұрын +3

      @moonshiro he did but it's still messed up. "Help us get the teeth and we give you your memories" bribery is not exactly the best way to make one feel PART OF THE TEAM after three HUNDRED years of isolation and being ignored by that team. It's their own faults that he was lured away by Pitch. And he wasn't even lured away when you think about it. It's been a while since I've seen the movie but wasn't he concerned for Baby Tooth? Like the mfs wouldn't even let him EXPLAIN what happened they just cast him out. Bunny was going to HIT him. Oof.

  • Ashlee Hughes
    Ashlee Hughes 2 ай бұрын +1

    This movie truly had the effect of burrowing its way into my soul. I think of that line "What is your center?" more often than I realized until I watched this video, or at least the general concept. I think it is highly underrated as a holiday movie as well. It spoke to me. I struggle with clinical major depression, anxiety, a multitude of issues. Over the course of the last 8 years my family has struggled with a multitude of levels of tragedy and loss, and for the last 5 years I have been a caregiver for my grandmother. In many ways my life stopped when I was 21 and became taking care of her. My one thing for myself through it all has been that I am lucky enough to work in the field that I love: I help manage an independent bookstore. I want to be a part of the generation that keeps bookstores alive. This is my passion. And yet, I know that even my passion is not quote my center. It IS caring. I care for my grandmother, my father, but even through my chosen medium of selling books it is still my way of caring by making sure the right books get into the hands that need them most. Words have the power to change a life, and feed the soul, and if that's how I can help care for a stranger as much as I care for my grandmother then I am content.

  • Elena, Director of MIISS
    Elena, Director of MIISS 2 ай бұрын +2

    I never thought that Chris Pine was miscast; he played it completely straight and it adds a lot of authenticity and sincerity. I'm not sure it would've worked if he hadn't.

  • CJ Cantu
    CJ Cantu 3 ай бұрын +13

    As a kid watching Jack, I related to him so much and watching this video made me realize that despite the growth that I've had over the years since I watched this movie, I've realized that part of me never really went away. I've been questioning a lot about my purpose and everyone tells me that I'm young so it's not something to stress about, but at the same time stress about me getting a job and settling down. I don't know what my center is. I love writing stories, but I'm not sure what I could apply it to since there are endless positions where writing is involved, but I know I want to create stories people can enjoy reading. But there are a lot of other factors (that I won't get into) still on my mind as I write this but I hope some day I can have my moment like Jack when he discovers his center.

  • umartinko
    umartinko 2 ай бұрын

    I'm not getting enough of the absolute COMEDY GOLD in this episode. The center exchanges between Alan and Jono made me physically burst out of laughter, which rarely happens. Thank you so much, both of you, for bringing your own you-ness into this - I didn't have a slightest idea how much I needed this.

  • aiyana poe
    aiyana poe 3 ай бұрын +27

    I literally rewatched this movie 2 days before you guys put this out. It is such a good movie with a great message. Now I can't get the image of a 45-year-old jack out of my head.

  • Audio Freak
    Audio Freak 3 ай бұрын +1308

    This movie was very underrated. AS a teenager when I watched this, I felt like I didnt know who I was just like Jack. In a way, I felt like my inner child died at a certain age, and my only path was becoming an adult, and at that point I really had to soul search, and in the end, I just realized my purpose was to be a creator for longitude of things.

    • Julian Nicol
      Julian Nicol 2 ай бұрын

      i think the voice acting actually might have been a big part. as a kid i found it weird and intimidating to follow a character who was like 27 years old. i wanted him to be a teenager but he sounded like a grown-ass man.

    • E
      E 2 ай бұрын +1

      Honestly this movie was such a missed opportunity like seriously this is amazing I still re watch this every now and then also skl jack is just so hot for me haahhahaha

    • Caity Strophic
      Caity Strophic 2 ай бұрын

      this movie came out when my childhood started to end... i was 8 when this was released, my childhood ended quite early due to my maturity and other personal things...

    • Jason Chaos
      Jason Chaos 3 ай бұрын +2

      Lucky for you that you got a good sounding teenage life.

  • Aria S
    Aria S Ай бұрын +1

    I love that you covered this movie. It's so underrated because of the time it chose to come out. It was competing with Marvel and other big names so... not a lot of people went to the movies to bother to go see it. I did. I saw it because, honestly, I've always been fascinated with such stories and the last time there'd been a movie about Jack Frost it was show casing him as a minor villian in a film short about Frosty the Snowman and I just feel that he's gotten short changed a lot so to see a movie that revolved around him (and wasn't him playing 2nd fiddle to someone [Lookin' at you Santa Clause 3] or as a pseudo name for a killer come back to life [seriously, a murder movie called Jack Frost... just... y?], brushed off as a turn of a phrase or a minor spirit... the last time I'd seen any movie / film that featured a Jack Frost as a main character was way back in the 1980s when I was a kid... and then it was like some Claymation thing and he didn't really look like a spirit when he was supposed to and the whole premise was he wanted to be a real boy instead of just a spirit since no one believe in him or something silly like that and in the end he ends up going back to being a spirit because he's the reason there's winter in the first place... it was kinda silly really and very kiddish. Rise of the Guardians was definitely a 'for all ages' kind of movie. I saw it and I wanted to see it again. I couldn't WAIT for it to come out into stores and I've seen the movie so many times... I have watched it over and over and over again like a little kid and I haven't been a kid in a long time. Even now I still sit down to watch it around Easter (which was when it came out) because it has to be one of my favorite movies of all time. I've even read the books and know the original stories behind all the Guardians - including 2 who aren't mentioned in the movie (Mother Goose and Nightlight). I've watched several of your videos, but I was really happy you did one on this. There are so many good movies out there that are like Rise of the Guardians. This movie is a classic that I think many missed out on because they were too busy watching Marvel. Me, I'm not into violence as much as I used to be when I was younger, just one more reason why Rise of the Guardians was my choice of movie after Easter 2012.
    On the JackxElsa... no, just no. Honestly, while I get why people want to ship them based on like the fact they have similar powers it's just not really a thing. Mostly because Jack Frost is perpetually stuck being 14 (if you go cannon age) or 16 - 18 (movie age supposedly) and Elsa is in her early 20s. Jack is an immortal being who once died under the ice (both in books and in the movie, though in the books it was for a different - but similar - reason). Elsa is mortal. She's gonna die so... that's not going to work out. Trying to invest one's emotions in someone who won't live as long as you (this being on Jack's side of things) is depressing at worst because you know eventually they're going to die and not be with you. While yes the saying is "better to love and lose than never to have loved at all" is a good saying, it's not a good practice - even in theory. It's nothing but massive sadness waiting to happen, whereas with couples with the same life span (immortal x immortal or human x human) then at least with the mortal beings it's an acceptable loss because the surviving party knows they'll eventually die too. They won't have countless years to be missing the person they fell in love with (not counting those who decide to marry someone after their passing because, honestly, that's not a common occurrence). I could go on and on as to why this couple wouldn't work... but you were asking for reason why it would. Honestly, I don't think it ever would. There's just too many clashes between the two and Elsa is way too distrusting of an individual to ever actually have a relationship with anyone, let alone someone like Jack who absolutely NEEDS whoever he ends up with to trust him. The scene with Bunny when they all turn to Jack to try and figure out why Easter was a disaster... they all turned on him and the devastation after he attempts to try and explain himself and they don't bother to give him a chance not only showcases a VERY obvious flaw in all of the Guardians who were there (3 of the 4 were there besides Jack), but also shows how much he wants to be trusted, that he needs the companionship of friends the same way anyone else does and because he's been deprived of it for 300 years means he's going to be a little clingy and emo when it comes to basic things like trust and friendship. Making a relationship with him beyond friendship to be rather challenging. Not impossible, but definitely challenging and Elsa is NOT up to the task.

  • Kelsey Logas
    Kelsey Logas 3 ай бұрын +3

    This has to be one of my favorite episodes. It was absolutely hilarious.
    My center is connection. I love my people and I want to be good to them.

  • Natalie Millikin
    Natalie Millikin 3 ай бұрын +12

    I think that my center is empathy/ love. That's ultimately why I want to be a therapist. Help others in their dark times and help their families understand what their loved ones are going through.

  • Tamar Psalms
    Tamar Psalms  3 ай бұрын +1

    Something I do think jack and Elsa have in common is the isolation and depression they both dealt with. Also finding where they belong and accepting who they are.

  • nana
    nana 3 ай бұрын +4

    at first I thought of the voice being VERY off but as the movie went on, it became a comforting voice that did fit with his character

  • FlareHeart
    FlareHeart 3 ай бұрын +1344

    When Jack blew on the snowball at the beginning, I didn't take that as him turning it into ice, but rather enchanting it with magic, which is why the kid gets those sparkles in his eyes and wants to start a snowball fight afterwards. Same with the sparkle on Cupcake when Jack throws one at her.
    I think my center is love. I just want everyone to be kind to each other. Be at peace. Be generous. Take care of each other.

    • Albedo_Aria
      Albedo_Aria 2 ай бұрын +1

      I believe mine is fun/good life, I want to help others be able to live a fun and good life (I’m struggling with my own life right now, and I don’t want others to feel that way.)

    • Lena Storm
      Lena Storm 3 ай бұрын


    • Cortney Lane
      Cortney Lane 3 ай бұрын +1

      I was picturing at being when snow has that more frozen/froze layer ontop of the fluffy stuff, it's not ice and it's not exactly hard either but it's for sturdy than what's under that layer

    • Merry Moss 🌿
      Merry Moss 🌿 3 ай бұрын +1

      Beautiful center! I think it's the same for me 😊
      And I thought the same about the snowball, it looks like he turns it into ice, but it's the "fun" from his center :)

    • Kacey Reed
      Kacey Reed 3 ай бұрын +1

      @Ribotto Studios Agreed

  • Sarah N P
    Sarah N P 3 ай бұрын +1

    ROTG is one of my favorite movies. I hadn't watched it in a while and just saw it again a few days ago. Much to my surprise and delight, y'all did a HERO review on it at the same time! I relate so much to Jack Frost. I've been running around trying to find my center and where it does the most good in the world when it was actually just creative fun to share with others. I'm now thriving in film school as a storyteller, and I graduate this coming May! :D

  • Chris Shorten
    Chris Shorten 3 ай бұрын +8

    I think my center might also be story creating. They're always forming in my head, and I just need to get them written down (which is the real struggle). I love creating them and building worlds.

  • A ku
    A ku 3 ай бұрын +7

    This episode was so funny and really the perfect timing for me to revisit a comfort film about finding your centre, just when I'm feeling lost

  • ArRy pOtTeR
    ArRy pOtTeR 13 күн бұрын +1

    I think my center is adaptation and empathy. I'm really good at handling drastic change, and I always put so much effort into changing the way I act so I can change others lives. The biggest part of that when others hurt me as a kid, I always made myself swear that I would be different, and that I would make others feel loved because that was something that was so valuable, but that I rarely felt. And all I wanted was to not feel hurt and unloved anymore and to not be that person who causes that at all, or do my best not to be that person.

  • Bam B
    Bam B 3 ай бұрын +7

    Thanks for reminding me to rewatch this movie!
    I’m not entirely sure what my center is but I really relate to Santa’s center. Just seeing the wonder in the smallest things. I’m also an artist so that’s probably part of it, finding beauty in everything and anything. I very specifically want make art that brings happiness. Guess that’s why I really want to be an animator.

  • Go Glo
    Go Glo 3 ай бұрын +580

    Alan going from "amateur filmmaker" to "professional filmmaker" to "almost ready to believe his work is wonderful on its own because his unique voice is what entertains and brings joy to people" is my favorite youtuber character arc

    • Karis Brooke
      Karis Brooke 3 ай бұрын +4

      YES 1000%

    • Kayli G
      Kayli G 3 ай бұрын +46

      And he might go from needs therapy to therapy healed me ....

  • Jaime Wilson
    Jaime Wilson Ай бұрын

    Alan, let me pile on and say you being able to cry publicly, along with being able to address the feelings that were literally flowing out of you in the moment, has helped me to be able to do the same. You literally showed me how to process emotions healthily, something I had never seen before. THANK YOU!!! Spielberg can never top that in my life, even having brought John Williams to my awareness. And if you knew me, that compliment would move you to tears yet again.

  • Yun Ju Chen
    Yun Ju Chen 9 күн бұрын

    Discovered this channel is one of the best thing ever happened in my life. Thank you for keeping making them. There were lots of struggle for me to make through a rather isolated and difficult path of my childhood, and each one of your videos helped me heal from it. Thank you.
    After a deep and quite complex process of self sensing, I think my center is loneliness. Which made me a person who never take connections and caring for granted, also made me extremely sensitive to anyone who is struggling in loneliness, to people who were forgotten by society. I once mistook that as mercy, but not until I truly accepted and embraced the loneliness and sadness, did my life got an actual turning point.
    Thank you all again, your videos truly helped me complete my healing journey.

    JOHN FLAHERTY 3 ай бұрын +9

    I've been thinking about the center question and I express it as someone with a need to solve puzzles and my significant other expanded it slightly to describe it as a journey of discovery, that she believes I will never stop learning and that is what makes me who I am at my core

  • Taylor Baldwin
    Taylor Baldwin 2 ай бұрын

    Watching this movie for the first time as a young teen really helped me figure out who I am as a person. The whole idea of having a center meant much more than having a purpose. While I believe my center is joy, I can take that in so many directions. This thought process has helped me figure out how to best live my life and make myself happiest.

  • Anything In Between
    Anything In Between 3 ай бұрын +3

    The books that this movie was based off of are pages and pages of pure childhood wonder and magic. Absolutely pure and incredible stories and this movie did them justice to the best possibility. One of the faves for sure

  • Johnny and the Insatiable Void
    Johnny and the Insatiable Void 3 ай бұрын +1268

    Elsa and Jack share common ground in that they both understand all too well what it means to deal with feelings of alienation. They also both have strong protective instincts toward their younger sisters.

    • Kohinatto SRU
      Kohinatto SRU 3 ай бұрын

      @Richard Ashendale Good luck with that...

    • Richard Ashendale
      Richard Ashendale 3 ай бұрын +1

      @Kohinatto SRU True lovers are allies. More than that actually. They're our closest allies that share in and with us more than what you would expect most "allies" to. Allies that you form a bond and connection with that feels like what some call "spiritual". It's rare to even find close allies, let alone loving companions these days so I understand why many struggle to see past simply finding allies. But I will never stop trying to remind people that there is more.

    • Kohinatto SRU
      Kohinatto SRU 3 ай бұрын

      @Richard Ashendale I think most people needs allies, not lovers. And that is what I was looking for half of my life...

    • Richard Ashendale
      Richard Ashendale 3 ай бұрын

      @Kohinatto SRU No. No listen, you are not broken. I don't know your situation but there is no such thing as broken beyond repair. Everyone needs intimacy in there lives, whether they realize it or not.
      Some, like Elsa push it away because they've been conditioned, by themselves or others to do so for various reasons. She has conditioned herself to push it away because she is terrified of hurting those she loves, which she rightfully recognizes as inevitable. Being like that, wound so tight for so long around others out of fear of what she might do has influenced her development. Changed her. She truly has grown to believe she doesn't even want or need a loving companion. But there is always someone out there that completes us. Someone that fulfills needs we didn't even know we had until we met them, possibly on top of ones we may have known we had all along. Fulfilling those needs getting those needs fulfilled with someone outside your family is what romance truly is.

    • Kohinatto SRU
      Kohinatto SRU 3 ай бұрын

      @Richard Ashendale Mayby I'm just broken

  • Caio Nunes
    Caio Nunes 3 ай бұрын +1

    Man I love that you guys talked about finding out who you are and how to know who you aren't can help you.
    Because I am currently going through this, and long story short, I noticed a reoccurring "theme" throughout my life that is kindness and heroism, what I mean by theme is important is events in my life in wich the actions I took even though at the time I did not do it for that reason, but looking back at them the "theme" present in all of them was kindness and heroism.
    For example, the one that hit me the hardest happened at a time when I was heavily doubting myself, I was about to go back home from church and a guy that was my friend back in elementary school recognized me and came to talk, he was all like "so great to see you man, how are you doing blah blah" at that point I was alright but then he asked me "hey, uhh you know why I'm here?" to wich I responded "no man, why?" then he goes "do you remember that time at school? I was bullied, and the guy came to hassle me and you stood up and fought with him? I didn't forget, since that day I decided that I wanted to be like you." he said this to me and I had no words. We talked for a bit but as I set foot home, I busted out crying, I simply could not believe that could inspire someone that much, I couldn't believe I had this much impact into someone's life.
    That's when I decided I wanted to be a hero, I mean, I always wanted to be one but I kinda discarded the idea because I didn't think there would be any career close enough, and then I discovered Jordan Peterson's work. Now I found a career that at least seems to fit with who I am, who I want to be, and I would absolutely love to work with it.

  • LettersFromSerena
    LettersFromSerena Ай бұрын

    I recently had to stop therapy sessions because my therapist changed practices, and coming to this channel has been keeping me so grounded. Thank you for doing these videos! I always leave feeling fulfilled and with something to think on.

  • Emily Jankowski
    Emily Jankowski 3 ай бұрын +5

    So glad you guys did this movie! One of my all time favorites. Honestly, I enjoyed Chris Pine's take on the Jack Frost character. The voice acting was emotional and in tune with the character. There are others that could have done the role, but I cant see anyone else doing it now.

  • A. É. Coleman
    A. É. Coleman 2 ай бұрын

    When Jonathan talked about first being a therapist and trying to act how he thought therapists were supposed to act, it took me back to my first few semesters of teaching college. Ugh. I'm only just now getting into being myself as a professor. I'm still mulling over the question of what is my center, but I think I'm with Alan in that I'm a story-teller. Sometimes it's like you guys are speaking directly to me...which is wonderful...and slightly creepy.

  • Celine Yxhammar
    Celine Yxhammar 3 ай бұрын +2

    I've been watching your channel for a long time and love the concept, as well as your commentary and chemistry together. Your videos always cheer me up. I would say my core is helping or understanding. Here in Sweden, we have a master program that educates you to specifically become a psychologist (from my understanding it's not the same in other countries). It's been a childhood dream of mine to be working in this field and I have been trying hard to get accepted for a few years now. I finally got in this fall and want to thank you both for comforting as well as motivating me at times when I really needed it

  • NeRethil Wolfsson
    NeRethil Wolfsson 3 ай бұрын +993

    As someone who struggled with social isolation for a looong time, the scene where Jack is seen by the kid, for the first time in centuries, always has me tearing up.

    • Mischа Rомо
      Mischа Rомо 3 ай бұрын +8

      I relate to that a lot too. I was homeless for a year and I felt I was losing my mind sometimes cuz people won't look at you. I later saw a study that said people literally view homeless people more as furniture than people and it all clicked why I felt so upset. I wasn't seen as human. I wanted to scream at people at times (and a couple times I did) cuz it was so terrifying to not be seen

    • Manon
      Manon 3 ай бұрын +2

      same 😢🥺

    • Mia-Sara King
      Mia-Sara King 3 ай бұрын +9

      same. when he says "you said my name." like the emotion in his voice and face, the acknowledgment and recognition that you can feel is so powerful and meaningful to him. my favorite part of the film

    • msk
      msk 3 ай бұрын +8

      @Satsu Jin yeah his performance is good even if his voice is a tad too old sounding

    • msk
      msk 3 ай бұрын +15

      Honestly the movie in general makes me tear up a lot. The older I get it makes me cry more.
      At least for me, Jaime finally believing in Jack and being able to see him is more bittersweet and touching because in my eyes it is implied that Jaime and his family is Jack's family's descendants.

  • Rare
    Rare 3 ай бұрын +2

    The way I need more people to talk about this movie it’s so good 😭😭

  • Kaitlynn LaFauce
    Kaitlynn LaFauce 3 ай бұрын +2

    Okay okay, hear me out. I would like to address the Jack Elsa thing. My husband and I are the same way, I’m so introverted and love my alone time and he is super “I want to be the center of attention.” If you look at the way Jack thinks in what he values, he knows he protected his sister, he knows she was at one point the most important thing to her. And that’s how Elsa starts. While he gets older, he realizes he enjoys making everyone happy, and I think that’s what she wants for everyone. So I see them connecting on a level of the thing’s important to them. That’s how I see it anyway.

  • Heart Of The Wild
    Heart Of The Wild 3 ай бұрын +5

    3:16 Here’s an interesting question: does the snow Jack threw look different because it’s ice, or because it’s infused with his magic to make the kids feel joy? I think it’s the latter, because if you look closely, it kinda looks like it’s glowing.

  • Michal Kennell
    Michal Kennell 3 ай бұрын +2

    This may be the first comment I have ever posted on youtube, but I kinda love you guys and I just really, REALLY want to thank you for recognizing Elsa's ace badass. So few characters are even speculated to be ace, and having you guys say that she is coded to be most like an ace person made me bounce up and down in my seat.

  • EvE Martinez
    EvE Martinez 3 ай бұрын +9

    I love this channel, and this movie, and the energy that you two create on the studio everyday. 🙌✨
    And my center, I think is creating. I love drawing, that’s my main passion in life. Just the idea of creating anything out of a white sheet of paper it’s what keeps me going. :> Also,I love myself some Jelsa throwbacks jaja.

  • Tokki Cabo
    Tokki Cabo 3 ай бұрын +646

    Santa’s center resonated with me on such a deep level it’s ridiculous. I adore being marveled by the most normal, everyday things. But whenever I told people “Isn’t it amazing how plants grow? Isn’t it just so magical how the weather changes? Have you ever REALLY looked at your hands??”they just think it’s weird, but I am truly intrigued and amazed by this! Santa in this film made me feel like I’m not the only one. I hope to the bottom of my heart to never stop being amazed by the world around me because there is truly magic everywhere!

    • SotraEngine4
      SotraEngine4 3 ай бұрын +1

      Yeah same!

    • Kuroinokitsune
      Kuroinokitsune 3 ай бұрын +1

      Oh.. I get you, though for me is sadly a sign that migraine is incoming:(

    • Kyoko van Hoshi
      Kyoko van Hoshi 3 ай бұрын +3

      Same! I fall in love with the moon everynight!

    • Mnrrrr
      Mnrrrr 3 ай бұрын +3

      This is one of the biggest gift in life, I believe, to be able to recognize how just LIFE and Existence of things, as a fact, are amazing. I'm wishing you to encounter more people, that will genuinely see the world the same way as you do, to accompany you nurturing this way of being, and share it ❤

    • Heidi Nieminen
      Heidi Nieminen 3 ай бұрын +2

      I feel you

  • Jay of the Zenn
    Jay of the Zenn 2 ай бұрын

    Finally got to watching this again. I want to say I know my center, but I still feel lost in my purpose in the world. I know the whole thing is to give yourself a purpose, but I can't find one to stick with and be happy about it. I use to want to Voice Act, but I have a very bad habit of comparing myself to others, and looking at some of my friends(past, current, and former), I feel like I can't hold a candle to them. Doesn't help that others things are also keeping me down emotionally and mentally.
    Believe me, If I could afford therapy for myself, I would. These videos from both Alan and Mr. Decker(feels weird to call him just "Jonathan" or "Jono")are basically my self-therapy sessions.

  • Harel Kalifa
    Harel Kalifa Ай бұрын

    Elsa and Jack both have this "older sibling" vibe. They might sometimes seem to only care about themselves because they mostly focus on themselves, but when push comes to shove, they will do everything for those they care about. Also they do balance each other out in their attitude to each others (Elsa is very quiet, Jack is very extrovert) and these types of opposites, attract a lot.

  • rw_2018 Rawr
    rw_2018 Rawr 3 ай бұрын +1

    Pitch is honestly one of the most traumatizing villains I have ever seen on screen. The first time I watched this movie I was like 13 and nearly cried I was so scared. I saw in another comment mentioning the good pitch could’ve done and I 100% agree he just didn’t view his role that way. I love the pun with the nightmares, there made of night and they’re “mares”. I love it and this movie I wish I knew about it when it came out and I love the identity scene with Santa it gave me some important questions to ask myself during my early teen years. I think right now my center is support, a lot of people in my life have some pretty horrible stuff happening to them and I don’t always know what when who or how but I always support them whether it’s a hug, a trip to the store for a snack or just an acknowledgment of how much I love and care about them. Whether or not their ready to talk about it or if talking will make them feel better I let them that I’m there and if they ever need a safe space and I can help or at least try.

  • Lucia
    Lucia 3 ай бұрын +2

    Just wanted to tell you that I'm going through hard times and your videos have really helped me a lot, thank you SO MUCH❤

  • Sierra Fils
    Sierra Fils 3 ай бұрын +1

    Another part of Finding your center is making your center fit into different roles and situations. I've had to work a lot of different jobs due to my disability, but I always find a way to put my center, dedication, into it. If I'm a pizza Hut driver, I'm going to nail all the prep work and find the best routes. If I'm designing a crochet pattern, I'm going to find the easiest and most stress-free way to make this particular item. So taking your center and fitting it into your whole life, not just the parts that fit it best, will improve everything.
    On the subject of Jelsa: You two need to investigate more before passing judgement. A big theme with these two is belief. Jack believing in Elsa when no one else does, her being the first to believe in him. There's a lot of different relationships people put these two into, including mentor/mentee and protector/protected. Not everything is romantic. And maybe they're not good as a forever pair because Elsa ain't straight, but a short term romance where Elsa learns how to enjoy her powers and life in general is good. Also, the whole thing came about because the Big Four was still a huge thing when Frozen came out and everyone just enfolded the Frozen cast into that group. It's not JUST because of the ice. There's also Hiccup/Elsa, Rapunzel/Elsa, Mulan/Elsa... the list goes on.
    Also, Alan, May I join you in the "sculpted, not built" club? Because I'm still chipping away at myself.

  • Robin Humburg
    Robin Humburg 3 ай бұрын +1268

    Jack and Elsa are alike in the fact that they are both very protective people and they love to bring others joy. You can see that in their relationships with their siblings. They use their powers to make other people happy and in so doing find joy themselves .They are both willing to protect others even at a terrible cost to themselves. They are also similar in the fact that they are searching for their purpose only to discover that the person they’ve been all along is the person they should be: caring, fun, and giving. The main issue that they both have is the idea that somehow they aren’t good enough for the role for which they have been chosen and the power that the role entails. They feared their own strength and the world around them tried to diminish who they are. Maybe they’re a little too much alike.

    • Aria S
      Aria S Ай бұрын +1

      @Jessicanimation I think the directors of the movie said 14 - 16 but I'm not sure. I know he was 14 in the books for sure. Though yeah, that definitely would be an issue most don't like to think about because they're too caught up in the idea of the romance that they don't really stop to think how it would ACTUALLY work... not just in the sense of being in love but all the differences between them. They're too busy trying to puzzle together the similarities that they forget or ignore any differences that makes the pair either impractical or impossible. Also, pretty sure that they lived in different eras anyway as Jack lived in colonial times (as is shown early on) while Elsa's world is (I think I read somewhere) maybe a few 100 yrs prior to colonial... so, technically speaking... she'd be long dead before Jack fell through the ice.

    • Jessicanimation
      Jessicanimation Ай бұрын

      @Aria S The deal breaker for me, there is a significant age gap. Jack is stated as biologically 14 in the movie and Elsa is a grown woman, older by a decade.

    • Aria S
      Aria S Ай бұрын +1

      The deal breaker between these two, for me anyway. Is that Elsa would never trust Jack... and that's something that is needed in a relationship... of any kind really. I mean, you can't really call someone your friend if they don't trust you... at least not a true friend in my opinion. Not to mention that a mortal x immortal relationship is just heading for needless sorrow and grief in the end.

      FLY HIGH. HIGHER! Ай бұрын +1

      @Kittycatkyla23 NOPE. He is confirmed 14 in the movie.

      FLY HIGH. HIGHER! Ай бұрын +1

      @Jessicanimation Thank you so much. I felt like the odd one out for pointing out how disgusting the ship is.

  • Pixel Girl
    Pixel Girl 3 ай бұрын +6

    Both Elsa and Jack find who they are inside, their purpose of living. In Frozen II Elsa has a whole power ballad on it “Show Yourself”. I do still agree with the theories that she is LGBTQ+, whether it’s bisexual, asexual or lesbian.
    Also, could you possibly review Hawks from My Hero Academia? He has a lot of trauma that makes many people interpret him as becoming toxic himself because of things he was manipulated to do. We do see him agree to do these things, but at his core he just really wants to help protect people. He is such a comfort character for me and I really hate how he is misinterpreted based off of the first few scenes of him.

  • A Wild Ted
    A Wild Ted Ай бұрын

    I love you both. Even though I don't consider myself in need of therapy I have learnt so much from you two. And lost many tears (Thanks Alan, every time ♥️). Much love to you both!

  • Rachel Taylor
    Rachel Taylor 3 ай бұрын +2

    Hi friends!
    I wanted to let both of you know how much I appreciate these videos. I genuinely love how low-key but impactful you are with each video. The fact that you do completely different (but relatable to the topic) jobs AND are good friends makes these videos so much more fun to watch while also learning how to heal.
    Jonathan: I love that I can watch these videos, learn about myself, and how I may have handled my own history. Thank you for helping myself and many like me who can't necessarily afford therapy for giving us an outlet.
    Alan: I LOVE MOVIES! I don't exactly watch movies and just enjoy them ( I look at cast, direction, music, dialog...) but your filmmaking expertise has helped me enjoy so many movies that I previously didn't like. Listening to you explain what is going on with these movies has given me appreciation for them!
    You guys are great. Thank you for being you and for making this channel. Keep it up!!

  • Sarah Cook
    Sarah Cook 20 күн бұрын

    I recently discovered your channel and just wanted to let you know that I love what you're doing! Your videos are all equally educational, insightful and entertaining. I'm pretty sure I caught some clips from "What's up Doc?" ("that's a person named Eunice") in this episode and it made my whole day 😆
    Also, I would say that about 50% or more of the clips you insert from other movies throughout your episodes are going exactly where my brain was already going 😂😂😂 Your LOTR inserts and "get help" (from Thor Ragnarok) always crack me up 😅

  • mollzballz19NW
    mollzballz19NW 3 ай бұрын +2

    Still blew my mind when I found out that Alec Baldwin was the voice of Santa in the DVD's bonus features/behind the scenes clips. Like, OMG, that man has range and doesn't get enough credit for how well he does his craft. I loved this movie from the first 5 min I watched it for the first time ever, and still love it to this very day. Not gonna lie, I may have developed a crush on Jack Frost in this too- even if he is an animated character. Although Alan thinks they miscast Chris Pine in this role, I think it was perfect casting IMO because it was one of the reasons I started to crush on him. As creepy as it may be.

  • Stefisgarden
    Stefisgarden 3 ай бұрын +886

    Okay, as an ace woman, hearing that you also headcanon Elsa as ace feels remarkably validating.

    • Carmi Grobler
      Carmi Grobler 3 ай бұрын +1

      @Derrick Lybbert Athena also

    • Carmi Grobler
      Carmi Grobler 3 ай бұрын


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      Jumo 3 ай бұрын


    • Spider Queen
      Spider Queen 3 ай бұрын

      I know right?!

    • W.T. Kemp
      W.T. Kemp 3 ай бұрын +2

      @MyLifeWithMarmalade well, in my life I’ve observed that age does not matter to wisdom, but rather the person’s ability and will to mature. Merida matured in a short time over the course of the movie.
      Yes she might marry later. But that isn’t her life or actually the main part of her story like other princesses.

  • Kylie Gonzalez
    Kylie Gonzalez 3 ай бұрын +3

    I think the Opposites Attract reasoning is at the core of the Jelsa shipment. As you said, they could balance each other out and help each other grow. I am guilty of this shipment. I have a few pins save on Pinterest.

  • Zoey G
    Zoey G 2 ай бұрын

    My center is storytelling too. It's been something I've loved ever since I was little, and made up this whole story about all the dogs in my family as royalty, centering around my grandma's dog "prince Kitsune". I love making people happy with my stories, because stories are what have kept me going.

  • DieDasDer Chaos
    DieDasDer Chaos 3 ай бұрын +1

    I loved that movie so much back when I just turned 18 or 20 and I loved how connected to everyone Jack is without trouble, even when they can't see him, how alive and fun he is even though he is technically dead (plus he can fly and freeze things, how cool is that?).
    Watching your vid and looking back I probably kinda identified partially with him (being lonely even thou I'm seeking connection, not knowing who I am and where I'm heading even though I am nearly 30, being surrounded by so many but still being alone) and hoped to find my own family to connect with (I love my family but they are so exhausting that I really can't be around them more often than not without playing a role).
    I never thought about what my center is, I never got to experiment with directions (well, university was not my thing even though I loved what I was studying, so I just learned the next best job that somewhat fits) and still feel super stuck and unable to connect with others. I will keep this idea in mind though and will keep trying to figure my center out.

  • Marki
    Marki 19 күн бұрын

    Pitch was originally (basically) a space general that guarded the door to nightmares. He caved to the voices because they convinced him his daughter was gone (she didn’t go away forever, just like other guardians she became someone else) and became Pitch Black. For him his center was his love for his daughter but its hard to find that again when you think its gone for good.

  • beanallene
    beanallene 3 ай бұрын +2

    Storytelling is a unique center. I would have to say that mine is a nurturer. I'm always taking care of plants, animals, children, and some adults. I make sure everybody has what they need, especially food.

  • Isaac Graff
    Isaac Graff 3 ай бұрын +587

    I actually really loved Pitch in this movie. it is also 100% possible to believe that Pitch was a hero at one point. Fear of the dark is not necessarily a bad thing, more accurately, fear of what is in the dark. Before Humanity really mastered fire, there was a LOT of dangerous things in the dark.

    • Andromada M
      Andromada M 3 ай бұрын +1

      @Ève B. The Guardians by William Joyce

    • Ève B.
      Ève B. 3 ай бұрын +1

      @Olympia Reid what's the name of the books ? I'd love to go and read them all, I really liked the movie and wish it could be expanded upon more, but I'll simply read the books instead

    • Sirius Stella
      Sirius Stella 3 ай бұрын


    • Izuku Midoriya
      Izuku Midoriya 3 ай бұрын +1

      @Carmi Grobler What happens when you combine dark and cold? You get horror movie weather to wrap up in a blanket at night and not sleep for the next week

    • Richard Ashendale
      Richard Ashendale 3 ай бұрын +4

      ​@Carmi Grobler Issue is fun was Jack's center. Not Pitch's. Pitch embodies fear without fun. The symbolism is that when you have fun with fear, it ceases to have power or meaning, and that's what we see in the movie.

  • ScaledCardinal
    ScaledCardinal 2 ай бұрын

    You know, originally I thought my center was creativity, but this video helped me realize that my creativity comes from something else. So, I personally think my own center is appreciation or curiousity. When new challenges come up or I see something new in my life, I want to conquer it, understand it, and appreciate it through my writing.
    I love this video. Makes me realize I didn't give this movie enough credit, and I'll definitely appreciate it more the next time I watch it!

  • IceNixie0102
    IceNixie0102 3 ай бұрын +2

    He's not turning it into an ice ball. He's breathing MAGIC into it.

  • anthropomorph7
    anthropomorph7 3 ай бұрын

    Y’all, I love this movie and I love the therapy aspects you illuminated alongside it! Well done! But I feel like you’ve only got half of the story - the film adaption half. The characters’ cores are the same, but they’re sooo much fuller and fleshier in the books. They’re quick reads, too. Seriously, pick up all five books for a late Christmas present. Nicholas Saint North is an amazing hero. Nightlight (later Jack) goes through an incredible self discovery journey. Katherine (later Mother Goose) is you guys. Seriously, she brings stories to the table in order to help children grow. REALLY worth a read. And Pitch and the poor gal who becomes Mother Nature? Well… SOO much deeper than the movie. The redemption arc a lot of people in your comments are writing for Pitch? Mother Nature goes through similar.