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The Kenobi series returned for my pancreas while I was in the hospital (PART 2)


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  • Sheev Talks
    Sheev Talks  3 ай бұрын +487

    Oh Merry Christmas btw

    • Albert Abramson
      Albert Abramson 2 ай бұрын

      You've got to be smarter than the villain to write this stuff. Then the good guy's got to be smarter, more cunning, and/or quicker on their feet in a crisis. That's really the whole point.
      I mean, does anyone know the DEMC (Deus Ex Machina Count) for this show? Hell, this episode!

    • Geraint Thatcher
      Geraint Thatcher 2 ай бұрын

      I'm watching your review (both parts) for the 1st time and agree with all of it. It feels like the show ripped of a Computer game Jedi Fallen Order. It's got a lot of the same story beats. A Jedi with PTSD whose living a terrible life, is relearning his powers is hunted by an Inquisitor with her own conflicted past. Featuring the same Fortress that set 5 years before Kenobi, is really well defended (where did those defences go ?)
      Yet the computer game does things far superior than this show

    • Somedorkydude
      Somedorkydude 2 ай бұрын

      But Sheev a storm trooper hit his head in a new hope starwars was always a goofie

    • gdeveloper3
      gdeveloper3 2 ай бұрын

      Happy new year

    • The Gaming Agent
      The Gaming Agent 2 ай бұрын

      I've watched this video 4 times now but dude i spent 6 hours editing 7 minutes for a school project I respect your 2 hour video.

  • Charles SUB
    Charles SUB 3 ай бұрын +711

    That anger at the Trenchcoat scene spoke to my very soul

    • UnendedGalaxy
      UnendedGalaxy 2 күн бұрын

      @Albert Abramson I can’t believe there was nothing that anyone thought was out of place as they walked past Obi-Wan. Nobody notices the hump that he’s holding or the extra pair of legs below it.

    • James C
      James C 27 күн бұрын

      ​@Chase Hedges67 ⁶⁶⁶⁶⁶⁶⁶⁶

    • Albert Abramson
      Albert Abramson 2 ай бұрын

      And why not smuggle her out in an imperial R2 unit? Or a crate, like they have in 50 other episodes/movies? Or a small backpack? Or a suitcase? Or shoot their way out, as they have so many times before?
      And what is the DEMC (Deus Ex Machina Count) when the two random rebel ships arrive--at exactly the right moment, btw--to save and rescue them? And isn't it convenient that, rather than bring a regular T-47 airspeeder which would've been brought to pick up Obi Wan and Leia. And isn't it even more convenient that, with the plot requiring that one ship be destroyed so that Reva can look all loyal, that they didn't just have Tala get into the other T-47!
      They could've kept continuity by having Tala get into the other airspeeder (or even stay behind and try to maintain her cover), then have Tala and the pilot seriously wounded/killed by the bomb. I mean, you can have two characters die in a scene, you know. Storm Troopers die in groups of three or four!

    • MozambiqueEnjoyer
      MozambiqueEnjoyer 2 ай бұрын

      The exact moment I stopped watching.

    • Kevin WinterMadness
      Kevin WinterMadness 2 ай бұрын

      @Goose Gas Approved and shot the scene, yes.
      I worded it wrong, we shouldn't blame just the directors when others are involved and part of the problem.
      And still, if the writing is most of the issue with a product, the ones who wrote it should still get more of the blame since it's their job.

  • UnendedGalaxy
    UnendedGalaxy 3 ай бұрын +402

    You know, in hindsight, that moment in TLJ where BB-8 rolls around underneath a trashbin is less insane than four-legged trench-coat Obi-Wan.

    • Kyle Majerczyk
      Kyle Majerczyk 4 күн бұрын

      And that was actually funny.

    • Саша Черняк
      Саша Черняк Ай бұрын

      @Carter The Tonight Show Knight Not an excuse. Stupid stuff in other Star Wars content doesn't justify this.

    • Саша Черняк
      Саша Черняк 2 ай бұрын

      @Handsome Jack OT: Story - amazing.
      Acting - good.
      World-building - good.
      Characters - great.
      Fights - ok.
      Music - great.
      Dialogue - good.
      Visuals - ok.
      PT: Story - amazing.
      Acting - ok.
      World-building - great.
      Characters - good.
      Fights - great.
      Music - great.
      Dialogue - meh.
      Visuals - good.
      ST: Story - bad.
      Acting - ok.
      World-building - terrible.
      Characters - bad.
      Fights - bad.
      Music - good.
      Dialogue - ok.
      Visuals - great.

    • UnendedGalaxy
      UnendedGalaxy 2 ай бұрын

      @Саша Черняк I’m sad to say it, but subjectivity is going to be what they’re fueled by if the parents raise them to be blind enough to accept all this.

  • Crosshair
    Crosshair 3 ай бұрын +600

    Sheev is really giving Mauler a run for his month with the length of these kenobi videos

    • LukeScrew
      LukeScrew 25 күн бұрын

      @SpFlash1523 No it isn't

    • SpFlash1523
      SpFlash1523 25 күн бұрын

      @LukeScrew Explain how then. I think being creditable and well-informed on certain matters and aspects of entertainment, logic, common sense, and consistency with pre-established canon is enough for to be considered cool and savvy.

    • MahNamJeff
      MahNamJeff Ай бұрын +2

      @Hugh Jasole
      Long review videos get a lot of respect because they show just how far people are willing to go to critique a bad piece of something they love down to the core.
      Hell if anything “long Bad” is a horrendous criticism to throw around purely because you could spend up to half an hour talking about a one minute scene because of elements you love and hate about it and how it effects the wider world said thing exists in if you care enough about said world and its inhabitants, because thats what people do with things they love and analyse.
      so throwing that passion for media aside because you deem it too long for something that isn’t “Important” just makes you sound really fun to be around at parties… doesn’t it.

    • Sith Saiyan
      Sith Saiyan Ай бұрын +1

      My man MauLer.

    • LukeScrew
      LukeScrew Ай бұрын

      @Landen Moudy He's not has funny but he will go to great lengths to explain his point

  • Nobody
    Nobody 3 ай бұрын +265

    The Grand Inquisitor reveal is the most bizzare moment of the show for me. Just think about it for a second, Vader and the GI planned this out. I imagine Vader planning this, giggling like a drunk school boy about to pull the most epic prank as he tells the Grand Inquisitor "So, like, I'm gonna tell her that she's the Grand Inquisitor now, but... When the assault is over, she's gonna attack me... And then, and then, you're gonna wait just out of sight so you can walk in and reveal we've been playing her just as I stab her. It's gonna be so fucking funny, man."

    • Qwerty
      Qwerty 23 күн бұрын

      @Scott Grey LMFAO

    • HellaTubbies882yt
      HellaTubbies882yt Ай бұрын +1

      @YagamiFire that last line is almost a word for word rip on austin powers and i love it

    • Albert Abramson
      Albert Abramson 2 ай бұрын

      Laughing so hard I can skip Ab Day tomorrow!

    • Maestrofeli
      Maestrofeli 2 ай бұрын

      @Jonathan Worthley wtf man
      is this a copypasta?

    • Scott Grey
      Scott Grey 2 ай бұрын +4

      Impractical Jokers sitting in a nearby room, giggling:
      “Vader, now tell her she’s the big boss now.”

  • 5h0rgunn
    5h0rgunn 3 ай бұрын +283

    This is like, the third or fourth review I've watched about Kenobi and I still have absolutely no clue whatsoever why Reva wanted to kill Luke.

    • Jacob Geiger
      Jacob Geiger Ай бұрын

      @Zachary Picton But how does she know he’s his son? Vader doesn’t even know, and Bail NEVER says it explicitly

    • LazeeScience Cat
      LazeeScience Cat Ай бұрын

      @Zachary Picton Agreed but also she has to make some leaps of logic to come to that conclusion. Like, she has to have audience or writer knowledge to be able to even understand wth Organa is talking about.

    • Goose Gas
      Goose Gas 2 ай бұрын

      @Tony M Maybe Skywalker is a common name? Or at least common enough not to warrant changing it.

  • Hevalive
    Hevalive 3 ай бұрын +228

    The absolute mental breakdown in 36:50 had me deader than the stormtrooper that got slapped 😂💀

  • Britdarg
    Britdarg 3 ай бұрын +443

    In Jedi: Fallen Order, the final level is the Fortress Inquistorius, and while the defences are still probably too light, there is still A LOT MORE than in this show. The characters have to eject from a cloaked ship in escape pods on the planet from space, past a star destroyer orbiting the planet, and once they get in the place is crawling with troopers, including proper purge troopers. (Troopers who can actually hold their own against a jedi in a fight). But I guess in the five years after Cal Kestis broke in they decided to lower security and retire the proper purge troopers and instead replace them with some cheap recolours of stormtroopers (the red and black troopers in this show are apparently prueg troopers, which is a fucking joke having played the game LOL) God this show is ASS

    • Your local Spider-man
      Your local Spider-man Ай бұрын

      Exactly my thoughts watching this

    • spider_slayer_69
      spider_slayer_69 2 ай бұрын

      @pyropulse please share with us your portfolio of wildly popular game development

    • Smiley P
      Smiley P 2 ай бұрын +1

      Video games always have more stuff because you're playing and have to do stuff.
      That being said it really makes it look bad that there was nothing whatsoever

    • Naisaga Thefirstdestronmandlorian
      Naisaga Thefirstdestronmandlorian 2 ай бұрын

      @zZOdysseus Zz It’s an okay game. Not a waste of money but it is definitely overpriced.

    • Johnny Froggo
      Johnny Froggo 2 ай бұрын

      Not to mention the game saying the fortress has shields lmao

  • Doragon
    Doragon 3 ай бұрын +258

    29:41 you can actually see the second stormtrooper litterally throwing his gun away. Freaking hilarious.

    • LazeeScience Cat
      LazeeScience Cat Ай бұрын +1

      These action scenes, man....

    • rmcgowa1987
      rmcgowa1987 2 ай бұрын +7

      Stormtroopers have always been made to look incompetent in the movies and some shows but this show truly takes the cake I am glad that most of the older star wars games did show how competent they could be recently fallen order did a decent job of stormtroopers they aren't great but at least they don't miss when they shoot you. Go back and play shadows of the empire stormtroopers can be quite deadly. Every enemy in the jedi knight series can be quite deadly before you get a saber even after this if they happen to have a concussion rifle or disruptor rifle.

    • The Elder
      The Elder 3 ай бұрын +14

      Lol wow, nice catch - there's so much stupid in that short sequence, we missed that bit of stupid.

    • 5h0rgunn
      5h0rgunn 3 ай бұрын +51

      Oh no, this chick has hold of my helmet chin, whatever shall I do? Let me drop this so I can flail my arms uselessly.

  • Seraquim De Blap
    Seraquim De Blap 3 ай бұрын +140

    Please never stop doing long-form videos; scene-by-scene is the most effective and cathartic way to illustrate the abject failures and help us work through them all. Plus you're giving us the only entertainment we're going to get from the bilge They produce. Big ups blud.

    • DarkThor POComicKnight
      DarkThor POComicKnight 2 ай бұрын

      @Michael Condron Mauler or Jay Exci all offer different (and may I say entertaining and informative) takes on the media we all consume.
      I don't even know where to begin
      Please ONE "informative" take - they all seem filled with errors
      Two "media" we "all" "consume"
      Gee maybe its possible we look at ART and we don't consume it and no "we" all don't do the same thing lmao
      But good luck on your string of nonsense

    • DarkThor POComicKnight
      DarkThor POComicKnight 2 ай бұрын

      They? come on just say Jews and be full Kanye lol

      TWICEBLOOM 3 ай бұрын +4

      This is why i love Mauler and efap tbh. Long man good

    • Michael Condron
      Michael Condron 3 ай бұрын +1

      Totally agree! I can see the value of shorter videos if you're on a bus or something (or if you just prefer them) but I would love some filter that let me search for videos say over 45mins. You can really dive into a topic... and creators like Sheev or Mauler or Jay Exci all offer different (and may I say entertaining and informative) takes on the media we all consume. I thoroughly applaud all of their efforts. Because of them and countless others I have managed to avoid She-Hulk, several regrettable Marvel movies, and yet still feel caught up enough to go see the ones that I really want to. I saw the beginning of Wandavision (and enjoyed it) but when it went off the rails (for me anyway) I stopped watching and relied on these long-form critiques/breakdowns to keep me caught up so that I could confidently go see Multiverse of Madness without having to suffer through the last of WV... I, unlike the townsfolk, am fully aware of what Sheev (and others like him) have sacrificed for me... and I humbly thank them.
      TLDR: Yes to the above, Thanks Sheev!

  • Eric Chung
    Eric Chung 3 ай бұрын +274

    "You can't criticize this show for being goofy and braindead because Star Wars was always just as goofy and braindead!" is some big brain logic for people who are apparently fans of the series.

    • Bill Clinton Enjoyer
      Bill Clinton Enjoyer Ай бұрын

      @Amy "The show is trying very hard not to be goofy"
      Tell me you didn't watch the show without telling me.

    • Bill Clinton Enjoyer
      Bill Clinton Enjoyer Ай бұрын

      @rmcgowa1987 You missed my point. A lot of Disnoïds uses this fact to say that Star Wars is goofy as fuck, that everything the sequel does is 100% legit because in 1977, a stormtrooper bumped his head. I was merely quoting these insane "people" in a sarcastic way (:

    • rmcgowa1987
      rmcgowa1987 2 ай бұрын

      @Bill Clinton Enjoyer Said extra was feeling sick so he misjudged how high the door was.

    • Bill Clinton Enjoyer
      Bill Clinton Enjoyer 2 ай бұрын +2


    • Cat Wrangler
      Cat Wrangler 2 ай бұрын

      Am I missing something or Fritz the cat was made for children

  • King Bash
    King Bash 3 ай бұрын +137

    The idea of Obi-Wan and Vader having another fight before ANH still sounds entirely dumb to me. Like the reason their fight in Mustafar works is because it contextualizes Vader's quote, "When I left you, I was but the learner, now I am the master." His rash actions is what lead him to be permanently crippled, and their second/last fight shows how much he's matured in his fighting style, to never make a mistake like that again.
    The show just makes the message more muddled because Vader slaps Obi-wan around in round 1, but that was only because he was holding back, and he would have been killed by him in their next match if it hadn't been Obi-wan choosing to just not finish the job. It's just reeks of shallow fanservice.

    • Nagger
      Nagger 2 ай бұрын +2

      @Squeeky Squid As if picking Revenge of the Sith or The Last Jedi isn't a 100x more pretentious lmao

    • LordVader1094
      LordVader1094 2 ай бұрын +1

      @Squeeky Squid Man you are projecting hard lol

    • Combine
      Combine 3 ай бұрын +10

      At this point, Disney Canon and Lucas Canon are seperate so anything that Disney does wrong can just be ignored and keep Lucas Canon as the real canon so atleast the movies/shows under him made more sense than they do now.

    • Squeeky Squid
      Squeeky Squid 3 ай бұрын +1

      @Yarbloco I don' think you're one of the pretentious one. I just figured I'd cover that base on the off chance some goober came in saying "Um actually it was originally called just Star Wars". They usually believe knowing that kind of trivia is what makes them a real fan. It's the kind of useless trivia that gets in the way of actual discussions.
      The only part I disagree with is the assertion of a casual fan, or not a true fan because I don't hold to the same ideals. I don't know/remember x detail therefore I must not actually like the thing.
      That line of reasoning more specifically the not recalling aspect is akin to if you cared you'd actually remember bs I've heard my whole life.

  • Tat011
    Tat011 3 ай бұрын +114

    It's worth noting this isn't even the first time the inquisitorium was attacked by a jedi who entered by going underwater and flooded the base in order to escape, i'm pretty sure it's even mentioned that the base HAS shields so...

    • Ethan Fox
      Ethan Fox 3 ай бұрын +9

      Cere says that she is disabling the shields when they first arrive. The flooding was only possible because they were disabled.

  • Miracles
    Miracles 3 ай бұрын +173

    Obi-Wan: Have you come to destroy me?!
    Sheev: You have done that yourself!

  • Zyklon B still and know God
    Zyklon B still and know God 3 ай бұрын +50

    The cut of "somehow Palpatine returned..." everytime sheev says somehow is just great 😂

    MAK N' CHEEZ 3 ай бұрын +66

    The montage of Vader killing people while Anakin whining "Its Obi Wans fault" was playing in the background had me in fucking stitches.

  • Markus Leutbecher
    Markus Leutbecher 2 ай бұрын +13

    I want to add several points to The Trenchcoat Scene:
    The trenchcoat itself is a massvie problem to me, as there is not a single other person on the whole base wearing any kind of distinct clothing deviating from the standard uniforms, even less so a trenchcoat. This means Tala found the single only trenchcoat in the whole base being held by a person she just killed (I think?). If they had actually cared to show Imperials wearing these when guarding the open air places to protect themselves from the water of this water-moon, it'd been much better.
    Next I really dislike the design. The coat is close in enough in color to the uniforms, but it's not the same color. It also doesn't really fit to the style of uniforms, I think, though we never see both of them together, so it's hard to tell. But lastly, the trenchcoat doesn't have any form of markings or identification that a uniform or part of a uniform usually would have. There's no Empire logo, no rank signs (that you would need to have on the coat, as your normal rank signs are hidden under the coat. So it's just a trenchcoat that they bought somewhere, that's extremely baggy so Leia fits under it and they didn't even bother to have the costume designers modify it even slightly so it looks like it's part of an Imperial uniform, let alone establish these trenchcoats as being "normal" on this base.
    And then we come to no one noticing it. Again, the Leia-bulb is plain bullshit, but let's have that pass. Obi-Wan is also the only single person on the whole damn base that has a beard and open, longer hair. The Imperium obviously has a dresscode (and only hires humans outside of special positions like the Inquisitors) and everyone on base follows that. Except that single dude there. He sticks out so much, it's laughable, even when accepting the trenchcoat hiding Leia away.
    So yeah... as part of costume design, this trenchcoat is hideous. And I never heard these points be talked about before, so here you go.

    • Markus Leutbecher
      Markus Leutbecher 2 ай бұрын +2

      And regarding costume design:
      If the shoulder parts of the Grand Inquisitor's armour would have been higher and straighter, I'm pretty sure he would have looked more intimidating. This way he mostly looks like his arms are slouching and he's permanently depressed.
      The same goes for the Fifth Brother: Just make his helmet more angular like in The Clone Wars, makes him look less like a rice farmer...
      Reeva is fine.
      But their lightsaber magnets on the back... those are just really stupid.

  • Scagguy 4014
    Scagguy 4014 3 ай бұрын +57

    The scene with leia under the trench coat was really the last straw for me. The writers just don’t have any idea what they are doing.
    They sink millions of dollars into the spectacle but can’t be bothered to hire writers that actually care.

  • StarWarsHour
    StarWarsHour 3 ай бұрын +50

    Wade will never be forgotten. Rest In peace king!

  • MyNameIsJudas
    MyNameIsJudas 3 ай бұрын +61

    I like how, as Sheevs slowly (quickly) loses his mind, he turns more and more into E;R

    • MyNameIsJudas
      MyNameIsJudas 23 күн бұрын

      @Link Skyward Sword i only just saw your reply whoops. If I had seen this more recently I'd give you a time stamp. Maybe illrewatch it soon.

    • Sith Saiyan
      Sith Saiyan Ай бұрын +2

      @Link Skyward Sword Captain America reference, lol

    • Sith Saiyan
      Sith Saiyan Ай бұрын +2

      Lmao, E;R is a legend.

    • Link Skyward Sword
      Link Skyward Sword 2 ай бұрын +4

      I understood that reference, also let me know the timestamp where it shines the most

  • Sub-Zero
    Sub-Zero 3 ай бұрын +60

    Kinda surprised you didn’t mention what I think was the worst thing about episode 6, how kenobi basically let luke die. After episode 3, the whole purpose of kenobi’s character is to watch over and eventually train luke, but here he fails completely. If it wasn’t for reva’s sudden character 180° than luke would be dead, and the galaxy would be doomed. This kid is the only hope for billions of people and kenobi almost let him die.
    As much as rebels screwed up, one thing it nailed was maul, and by extension, kenobi. The mere indirect mention of luke by maul in the “twin suns” episode is enough for kenobi to immediately go into attack mode and kill maul with 3 moves, yet in the kenobi show he forgets all about luke towards the end and not only leaves him defenseless, forgives reva for almost killing him. why didn’t he stab her the second he saw her with luke? the entire galaxy is worth more than the life of one half-reformed inquisitor. god this show sucks

    • Superbrainz
      Superbrainz Ай бұрын +1

      @Sub-Zero Lets not forget the time travel introduced so filoni could save his oc.
      I do like ahsoka but every appearance afterwards gets more and more forced with her being in almost everything now to the point I wish she just stayed dead.

    • Sub-Zero
      Sub-Zero 2 ай бұрын +3

      @Jack that’s what i’m sayin. rebels only had one cool inquisitor and they kill him off at the end of the first season, the rest were so god damn boring.
      I’ll give credit where it’s due, the maul/ashoka stuff was done very well. Vader, like I mentioned was unfortunately very mishandled. he arrives in season 2 to replace the grand inquisitor, and easily overpowers the main cast and comes close to killing them. but after he kills ashoka at the end of season 2, he just gives up and leaves the show, even though his whole job pre-episode 4 was to kill jedi. It doesn’t make any sense at all

    • Jack
      Jack 2 ай бұрын +1

      @Sub-Zero I honestly only watched rebels for maul because he’s my favorite and ahsoka, didn’t find the show really that interesting besides those two (and vader cameos) I didn’t really like any of the inquisitors, fallen order was the only one to actually bring good inquisitors (second and ninth) the rest are uninteresting

    • Sub-Zero
      Sub-Zero 2 ай бұрын +2

      @Jack being awful besides season 3, having the same plots used over and over, completely wasting the grand inquisitor, vader, and the emperor, having a whiny bitch main character who barely changes at all, having the most goddamn annoying side characters I’ve ever seen, having little to no fight choreography, I could go on but I don’t wanna be here all day lmao

    • Jack
      Jack 2 ай бұрын

      How did rebels screw up?

  • Shadow Wolf
    Shadow Wolf 3 ай бұрын +57

    To be fair, revenge being a way to outlive major injuries does explain John Wick pretty well

    • DarkThor POComicKnight
      DarkThor POComicKnight 2 ай бұрын

      @Саша Черняк Everyone? REALLY?
      Did you watch the films?

    • Саша Черняк
      Саша Черняк 2 ай бұрын

      @DarkThor POComicKnight John is literally Terminator and everyone in this universe is an assassin, but of course I am a moron...

    • Саша Черняк
      Саша Черняк 3 ай бұрын +2

      John Wick 2 and 3 are awful.

    • Rick Perez
      Rick Perez 3 ай бұрын +7

      @Sab3r Edg3 have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Wick's dog...?

  • Yarbloco
    Yarbloco 3 ай бұрын +61

    29:40 I love how she misses the first grab, even tho it's a rehearsed coreography (which makes the entire scene even worse, once you realize it was written, approved, rehearsed, filmed, and not edited out).

    • Peter B
      Peter B 3 ай бұрын +7

      This is star wars. They don't have the budget for editors duhhh

  • Reb Chizelbeak
    Reb Chizelbeak 3 ай бұрын +36

    Unfortunately, it seems like Disney writers have not yet developed perception of object permanence yet.
    If it is off screen, it no longer exists.

  • Carnage Racing
    Carnage Racing 3 ай бұрын +19

    I don’t think a big enough deal is being made about the fact that Luke Skywalker only lived because Reva had a last second change of heart.
    Obi-Wan Kenobi COMPLETELY failed his mission to protect Luke.

  • Sir Pepe of House Kek
    Sir Pepe of House Kek 3 ай бұрын +32

    How does Reva know Anakin and Vader are the same person? She never heard the name Vader.

    • The Thespian Prince
      The Thespian Prince 2 ай бұрын +13

      You’d think they’d explain that in a flashback or something. Like I don’t know, a random clone walks up and addresses the once-Anakin as “Lord Vader, the south of the temple has been taken control. There is resistance on the west part-“ or something as young Reva passes out because of her wounds or something.

    • Sheev Talks
      Sheev Talks  3 ай бұрын +29

      She could probably have assumed that the same Jedi who was cutting down Jedi and killed all her friends might be the same as the Empire’s new mystery enforcer, but I suppose we don’t know for sure

    • Chase Hedges67
      Chase Hedges67 3 ай бұрын +12


  • Colin Lam
    Colin Lam 2 ай бұрын +8

    I am absolutely certain that the idea of pulling up the galactic map never even occurred to anyone who worked on this show

  • OneMoreMinute05
    OneMoreMinute05 3 ай бұрын +13

    The Mustafar duel: Anakin and Obi go at it against each other with all of their skill and intensity, and the environment of the duel constantly changes. From the open landing platform, to the tight corridors and space of the control room, to the precarious balancing on the pipes, to having to avoid the lava that threatens to swallow them whole as they leap from platform to platform. The environment (which also symbolizes Anakins emotional hatred and hellish descent) allows for the dynamics and proxemity to change between the duelists, so that it's never the same and they have to adapt, sometimes going fast, sometimes going slow. The cinematography perfectly frames the two combatants amidst their environment and how it affects them.
    The Kenobi show duel: Just has basic fighting in pitch darkness with some stones behind, alongside an annoying shaky cam. That's all it is.

  • Joshua Hahn
    Joshua Hahn 3 ай бұрын +59

    Your moments of rage are really easy to empathize with. It's exactly how I feel about all of this. Ultimately, it's impossible to get media that's smarter than the people making it, and the stupidity that prevails at every level of their production is genuinely shocking.

    • TheRebelOfChaos
      TheRebelOfChaos 2 ай бұрын +1

      It's only impossible because all the people who are actually competent at the job were thrown out of the industry for being "problematic".

    • bruhmanofyear2
      bruhmanofyear2 2 ай бұрын

      @DarkThor POComicKnight "please point to the stupidity" the stormtroopers are looking for people and there's this guy with a girl in his trenchcoat her legs being exposed and her head poking out at some point meanwhile they're meant to be trained soldiers

    • bruhmanofyear2
      bruhmanofyear2 2 ай бұрын

      @DarkThor POComicKnight and you also avoided pointing out a specific part of the vid with a timestamp that is "awful"

    • bruhmanofyear2
      bruhmanofyear2 2 ай бұрын

      @DarkThor POComicKnight the discussion is about being able to know what a bad show/movie is without ever making one, how is george lucas relevant

    • DarkThor POComicKnight
      DarkThor POComicKnight 2 ай бұрын

      @bruhmanofyear2 George LUCAS google him he's relevant I think to this discussion

  • Paul Zorofeu Otto
    Paul Zorofeu Otto 3 ай бұрын +19

    As far as I remember kenobi focused mainly on a lightsaber style to reflect blaster shots and was known for a oretty inpenetrable defense, so it strikes even more odd for him to reflect it towards the window

    • MozambiqueEnjoyer
      MozambiqueEnjoyer 2 ай бұрын +2

      And its even reinforced in Battlefront II as its one of his main abilities.
      Literally deflects every incoming attack.

    • Heartshapedbox81
      Heartshapedbox81 2 ай бұрын +4

      As well as for the window of an underwater station to have non Blaster proof glass, in addition to having windows at all.

  • Esork Gonzalez
    Esork Gonzalez 3 ай бұрын +24

    1:21:44, I wish you talked a bit more about how ludicrously convenient this scene was. The fact that Stormtroopers weren't in proper formation doesn't even begin to describe how awful this skirmish was. Not a SINGLE rebel was shot in that entire fight except for, what I see from rewatching, Tala. Not even this bulky loader droid who should have been getting bolts weaved in its direction left and right. There's so many ways to make the Empire look outmatched without making them look incompetent but the latter is exactly what they choose to do all the time, it's ridiculous. All in all, your points seemed to cover everything else pretty well.
    - AStormtrooper3

  • Baxland
    Baxland 3 ай бұрын +25

    2:15:35 Bold of you to assume she wouldnt survive a headshot like it's nothing at this point

  • Chase Hedges67
    Chase Hedges67 3 ай бұрын +64

    I can ignore Hayden’s lack of deaging because his performance is fantastic

    • Heartshapedbox81
      Heartshapedbox81 2 ай бұрын +2

      I mean I was really glad to see him back but they gave him like nothing to do, as many of the sensible people have stated it would have been a far better show had they jumped in between what Obi-Wan and Vader were doing / thinking in the form of flashbacks, with the only danger being something happening on Tatooine potentially putting Luke at risk or even something offworld coming to Tatooine and putting them at risk, and if people craved another planet in spite of this being the only show where tatooine definitely should have been the center then Vader's perspective would fill that desire, they could even have still had Alderaan but instead of focusing on Leia so much and disregarding Luke as the unwanted idiot twin with no dialogue (which was completely unnecessary and just a sign of the stupid times) they could have focused more on her parents or her people and how they have to go along the empire despite their Allegiance falling elsewhere, it would give you some insight into what Leah says in A New Hope and perhaps a deeper attachment to the people of the planet before it gets destroyed, but no. It would take someone with skill, dedication to the story and the lore and no agendas to do such things, but to wrap back around, unfortunately and I mean that sincerely because I was never one of the people who disliked his portrayal once I'd seen the movies in full, I was glad to hear that he and Ewan were back but I did not trust that they would do them justice or give a crap about continuity and they proved that correct.

    • Chase Hedges67
      Chase Hedges67 2 ай бұрын +2

      @Nagger Poor guy

    • Nagger
      Nagger 2 ай бұрын +9

      @The Cambot I agree, it's like seeing 38 year old Aaron Paul trying to play 23 year old Jesse Pinkman, it's just not the same. Then again I also think it's really hard to properly judge Hayden Christianson's performance as Anakin at all when he always gets fed slop in this fucking franchise. I honestly feel bad for him because he clearly gives a shit, especially since he went back and watched the Clone Wars to get as accurate of a portrayal of Anakin as possible. He just barely ever gets the chance to actually prove himself

    • Саша Черняк
      Саша Черняк 3 ай бұрын +6

      Fans on youtube deaged him better in one day.

    • Chase Hedges67
      Chase Hedges67 3 ай бұрын +14

      @The Cambot His performance in Revenge is ICONIC and yeah his performance here is ok.

  • Nerd_135
    Nerd_135 3 ай бұрын +67

    No joke died of laughter at around 36:40 you seemed like you had genuine hatred there

    • Heartshapedbox81
      Heartshapedbox81 2 ай бұрын +1

      Pretty sure he was using his aggressive feelings, I myself lost it at the "take your hand off me" god that character just like the script is atrocious.

    • Eugger
      Eugger 3 ай бұрын +10

      I literally died as well. RIP

  • SeñorSpock
    SeñorSpock 3 ай бұрын +10

    I just realized… if reva was planning on them escaping so she could track them…. Why was she holding an execution party in the hangar??? Was she just hoping someone would come in and save them??? What if no one showed up??? Would she just have said “uhhh actually nvm, everyone back to your stations, you three back to your cage”???

  • sgtboom7
    sgtboom7 3 ай бұрын +16

    36:40 - 36:55 And just like that, I'm convinced Sheev can read minds from across the internet.

  • _CRXXY_
    _CRXXY_ 3 ай бұрын +16

    Damn hope you get new pancreas, get well soon Sheev

  • Shoocharu
    Shoocharu 3 ай бұрын +20

    At 2:20:22 my favourite part about the fact that Obi-Wan jumps to hyperspace to get to Tatooine, is the fact that he has a ship that can jump to hyperspace, while THE PROBLEM THE REBELS HAD, WAS THAT THEIR OWN SHIP COULDN'T DO THAT. Why the fuck did they not use the smaller ship instead??!

    • Paul Hicks
      Paul Hicks 2 ай бұрын

      Right and his ship can travel to Tatooine in zillion parsecs as Reva is already there after her hyperspace speed walk from Mos Eisley

    • Heartshapedbox81
      Heartshapedbox81 2 ай бұрын

      I don't know if you seen the Last Jedi but these current Star Wars writers are really bad at writing Space Warfare.... well everything to do with it actually, but really bad at writing in particular, perilous situations where the bad guys have the upper hand.

  • jayhartRIC
    jayhartRIC 3 ай бұрын +9

    The first Jedi temple scene telegraphed Reva’s reveal so hard it was sad. Showing the attack from a random group younglings’ perspective made no sense otherwise. Has they shown that scene from Anakin’s perspective it would have set up the same thing without spoiling it. Alternatively they could have not made it a reveal and made Reva’s plan obvious while making her more sympathetic. Then it would have been more of a suspenseful show about her not getting revealed before exacting her revenge. Either one would have been better than what we got.

  • Matthew Chi
    Matthew Chi 3 ай бұрын +59

    This was absolutely worth the wait. Amazing work Sheev!

  • what the topic  /WTF
    what the topic /WTF 3 ай бұрын +21

    This guy is as good as mauler and that's a rarity so we need more like him

  • Logan Mapes
    Logan Mapes 3 ай бұрын +33

    the defense for the trench coat scene is they are too busy looking everywhere for the escaped prisoner they didnt notice... and yes im kidding its a joke

  • 0ctopusComp1etely
    0ctopusComp1etely 2 ай бұрын +4

    Something about the idea of A New Hope suddenly getting a scene added where Luke just goes "Ooooh yeeeeah, I've seen a lightsaber before! There was this weird human Tuscan Raider that attacked our farm one time with a red one" just... sends me. I CANNOT stop laughing.
    I bet Disney would do it, too. Freaking hilarious.

  • Trilaanus
    Trilaanus 3 ай бұрын +6

    There are SO many cases in this series where things cease to exist when they aren't on screen, that is exactly what's happening. That's how Joby Harold's storytelling works(or, rather, doesn't work).

  • Titanius_Anglesmith_ I
    Titanius_Anglesmith_ I 2 ай бұрын +2

    Rip wade. He was the best of us! We didn’t appreciate him while he was here. So sad

  • RingoAlFahker
    RingoAlFahker 3 ай бұрын +19

    When reva asked obi wan where he was the first thing i thought of was “falling off a fucking cliff after killing a robot”

  • Sarina T
    Sarina T Ай бұрын +1

    I think my favorite thing I learned in this series is how walking off a lightsaber stab is actually super easy, barely an inconvenience.

  • Juan Pablo Andueza
    Juan Pablo Andueza 3 ай бұрын +22

    Reva has three stomachs and a pocket ship... You must read the canon books.
    Edit: She also knew from the archives that Anakin had a half brother in Tatooine called Owen.

    • Heartshapedbox81
      Heartshapedbox81 2 ай бұрын +2

      In addition she also has the script, that or we forgot to mention she has really clear premonitions.

    • ッCrAvE Diamond
      ッCrAvE Diamond 3 ай бұрын +4

      @Juan Pablo Anduezathe archives were just wrong don’t worry

    • Juan Pablo Andueza
      Juan Pablo Andueza 3 ай бұрын +7

      @jimihendrix23456 yeah, that's true... But we must blame the archives

    • jimihendrix23456
      jimihendrix23456 3 ай бұрын +7

      They're stepbrothers, since their parents got married. Half-brothers share a parent.

  • The 13th Wards Adam
    The 13th Wards Adam 3 ай бұрын +8

    watching videos like this has been an extremely strong push to start reading again. never have to spend an entire book picking apart little plot holes and contrivances. thanks a lot

  • Troopertroll
    Troopertroll 2 ай бұрын +3

    Definitely should have been more of an introspective show for Obi-Wan's transformation into the wise hermit.
    Make the most use of Hayden while they had him and do something different than the previous shows.
    Also, I always firmly believed George made the pair 10 years too young in the prequels. There's no realm where Ben Kenobi looked mid-50s and Vader looked mid-40s.

  • SkySlasher
    SkySlasher 3 ай бұрын +15

    1:27:53 I call this phenomenon The Flash Paradox where a characters full power is so ridiculously over the top that reasonably they should never lose get caught off guard or have anyone escape them ever but still anyways its mainly a factor of rule of cool we want our characters to have impressive feats. Legends Vader had similar feats eviserating arms forcing ships to collide with each other etc it comes with an action series and if its written well its easy to ignore.
    If your wondering Flash is the character I think is the easiest example of this kind of rule of cool writing because his speed feats are really awesome but it makes the idea of losing to some dickhead with boomerangs ridiculous.

    • bruhmanofyear2
      bruhmanofyear2 2 ай бұрын

      It made sense in the first 3 flash seasons as he was a new hero but no excuse in s4 and onwards

  • Aurora Uplinks
    Aurora Uplinks 3 ай бұрын +11

    The reason the controls are in the vent are several reasons, plot convenience for leia to have a reason to do it and not anyone else. but also because they are used to star trek where the jeffries tubes always have all the engineering control points in them, even though their not on a star ship or in the trek unvierse :D
    However simply put, a human star port wouldnt put the engineering controls in a room a engineer couldn't access. :s

  • Rafael Duarte
    Rafael Duarte 2 ай бұрын +2

    To be fair to the trenchcoat scene Leia was so incredibly poorly hidden that my brain couldn’t actually comprehend what I was looking at so I actually didn’t see her at first

  • twomur
    twomur 2 ай бұрын +5

    i have to keep telling myself “this isn’t cannon, this isn’t cannon, this isn’t cannon”

  • everyone
    everyone 2 ай бұрын +8

    This show was made for true Star Wars fans only. /s

  • FIlipe Silva
    FIlipe Silva 3 ай бұрын +7

    Wow. This show really is just One Great Contrivance.

  • Harris Caldwelly
    Harris Caldwelly 2 ай бұрын +1

    Watching this is like reopening an old wound but he made pretty good points on things I forgot all about 👍

  • timbit
    timbit 3 ай бұрын +13

    Thanks for the effort you put in this, amazing work!

  • Jams77
    Jams77 3 ай бұрын +9

    This video made me really want to read that Battle of Jabiim comic, thank you for introducing it to me and great vid as always!

  • Top Tier Gaming
    Top Tier Gaming 3 ай бұрын +1

    They definitely should have added sheilds and other deffences, especially after Cal showed up and proved it could be infiltrated

  • Joshua Collins
    Joshua Collins 2 ай бұрын +1

    couldnt stop laughing. so hilarious. thankyou for this and part 1 cause no way i was going to watch this

  • DonKangolJones
    DonKangolJones 3 ай бұрын +8

    37:09 I shed a tear from laughter. I feel you dude. I feel you.

  • Nagger
    Nagger 2 ай бұрын +1

    2:08:10 lmao This has already been my headcanon for years with Starkiller and Ahsoka, glad to see Disney has finally resorted to fanfic levels of writing

  • Sab3r Edg3
    Sab3r Edg3 3 ай бұрын +3

    I'll say if we needed to get a show as terribly written as this just to get a video as entertaining as this...then maybe there is a little good left in the world. Cheers Clone-nobi you did your best, it just happened to be the worst

  • Mikepagebrand
    Mikepagebrand 3 ай бұрын +3

    Using the clip from jumper while talking about Vader learning to teleport was the cherry on top of this video

  • Xander Selick
    Xander Selick Ай бұрын

    Fantastic breakdown! You pointed out a ton of elements that I never even thought to consider. You've earned my subscription, keep up the great work!
    I want to hear your take on modern Star Trek, (Kelvin Timeline, Discovery, Picard, and Strange New Worlds) I think it would make for a great video.

  • Top Tier Gaming
    Top Tier Gaming 2 ай бұрын +1

    I originally assumed that Reva was going to ubduct Luke to train him as a sith appreciate to later kill Vader. It was only until she actually tried to kill Luke that I realized what she was doing

  • MetaFanWing
    MetaFanWing 3 ай бұрын +4

    I’d also like to mention that Obi-Wan pushed the cracks across multiple unconnected windows.

  • Gert
    Gert 3 ай бұрын +13

    Just saw the first part yesterday. Figured I’d have to wait. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!

  • Alexander Taylor
    Alexander Taylor 3 ай бұрын +2

    If Reva really did piece together that Luke was Vader's son, a far more logical course of action would be to kidnap him, then raise and train him to be strong enough to kill Vader himself. Since Reva was too weak to do it herself, maybe she would end up believing that with the right training, the son of the dark lord himself might one day be powerful enough to kill him. Would make for more interesting motivation and stakes than what they actually had in the show.

  • Intel_Coar
    Intel_Coar 2 ай бұрын +2

    Wait hold up, I never realized this before. Why in the hell is Qui-gon's beard longer in this show as a force ghost than in Phantom Menace when he was actually alive. Do force ghosts age now? When was that decided? How did they take the one thing that the show should've been about, throw it to the wayside, and make it even more confusing than the force ghost lore already was?

  • Eric Cutler
    Eric Cutler 3 ай бұрын +3

    even if owen managed to land a head shot on reva, she'd probably survive it considered she survived getting stabbed in the abdomen twice

  • MyNameIsJudas
    MyNameIsJudas 3 ай бұрын +6

    52:00 I Actually didn't mind the Luke and Leia deepfakes. It was the Tarkin one that really bugged me. he looked so rubbery and almost like a pixar movie.

  • Mk. Dazz
    Mk. Dazz 3 ай бұрын +4

    he put more thought into these videos than you did for your whole trilogy....

  • Darkfireice
    Darkfireice 3 ай бұрын +1

    How much better would it have been if, Obi kept hearing Gin's line "Train the boy" every time Obi Wan was calm or alone

    CAMD_EDITZ 3 ай бұрын +2

    This video was amazing bro😭😭
    I actually defended this show the first month it came out god damn.

  • clarity2199
    clarity2199 3 ай бұрын +6

    2:05:00: I believe when people are saying Obi Wan shouldn't be able to lift the boulders cuz Yoda had issues, they're not talking about because of size. The fans understand that Yoda was far more powerful in the force than Obi Wan was.....that's why they're saying it. Though I hate talking about medichlorions, they had mentioned Yoda had the strongest count, while Obi Wan was known to be the weakest. His determination made him one of the best Jedi fighters, but that doesn't mean he strengthened his medichlorion count up to lifting mass boulders. That's what the argument is.

  • Kiono Hiemalis
    Kiono Hiemalis Ай бұрын

    Still confused how Obi's hair hasn't burned off completely.
    And wait, Obi was trying to stop the glass from breaking? I thought he was trying to use Shatterpoint! That scene reminded me of Mace Windu using it on the front window of a vehicle to free a clone.

  • Marshmallow Vampire
    Marshmallow Vampire 3 ай бұрын +8

    43:53 Another thing that is f***ing depressing about these newer Star Wars shows for me is that they do nothing to change the depth/pitch of the older characters' voices (Qui Gon or Vader).😔
    I get that they may want us to marvel at the real them and that they've aged, and or maybe it's for nostalgia, but it's depressing that they don't have the same power. Obviously there is nothing wrong with getting older, but adult Qui Gon in Tales of the Jedi, for example, sounds like he has a cold.😔
    Idk if you'v seen the Little Platoons video on nostalgia but he fleshes out exactly why it's so sad

  • Sundi Edwards
    Sundi Edwards 3 ай бұрын +3

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I got strong “how do you do fellow kids” vibes from seeing anakin in the flashback

  • Kapitan Kapital
    Kapitan Kapital 3 ай бұрын +1

    I always liked how in A New Hope it is implied that Vader and Leia have a long history together, and that Vader has tried to get her for being a rebel before but she used her political privilege to escape. I feel like her characterisation in this show somewhat takes away from that, like sure, she was much younger, but it doesn't feel quite right for Leia to just be a passive victim of others' machinations. Even in Episode 4 where she is playing the role of a literal damsel in distress, she gets into that situation through her own actions and gets out in no small part through her own actions. And those actions mean doing the right thing, not being a random pain in the ass because the plot needs to keep going.

  • John
    John 2 ай бұрын +1

    To the point about the final duel I fully agree, the fact they didn’t try and get Nick Gillard to help with the stunts, ya know, the guy who choreographed the best fights in Star Wars?!

  • Horrormaster13
    Horrormaster13 3 ай бұрын +2

    (41:22) R.I.P. Wade
    What a tragic death. I had to laugh so hard when they tried to make us sad with this "emotional" death 😂🤣

  • Shawn Boosveld
    Shawn Boosveld Ай бұрын +1

    35:12 missed how there's not a drop of water that gets through the door, somehow. Tala then proceeds to say "that won't hold for long" implying that the BLAST DOOR on an UNDERWATER BASE is not strong enough to HOLD BACK WATER. Genius dialogue.

  • Roger Rabbit
    Roger Rabbit 3 ай бұрын +2

    When someone accuses you of nitpicking, you say "Was it not a straw that broke the Camel's back?"

  • Chase Hedges67
    Chase Hedges67 3 ай бұрын +18

    This show is terrible but the girl who played Leia is adorable and cute and she did a good job as Young Leia.

  • The Jewish Filmmakers
    The Jewish Filmmakers 2 ай бұрын

    I find videos like these to be the best form of psychology

  • Kyle Frank
    Kyle Frank 3 ай бұрын +7

    Dude, I JUST found your channel and finished Part 1. The Force is strong with this one.

  • L
    L 3 ай бұрын +14

    The pure anger for the coat scene 36:50 rofl

  • Calvin Gwizdala
    Calvin Gwizdala 3 ай бұрын +8

    I am so glad you managed to get this up! Great work as always!

  • Why I wake Up
    Why I wake Up 2 ай бұрын

    Klaud, Kresh, and Wade should have several character study shows for being the best characters in fiction

  • Archon
    Archon 3 ай бұрын +12

    This is where the fun begins.

  • Cen Sheard
    Cen Sheard 3 ай бұрын +3

    I’m only 9:52 in and dam do I feel validated. This is what I mean when I say I gotta switch my brain off to watch movies and tv nowadays 😂 Sheev I’m enjoying this so much thank you

  • Tardar Sauce
    Tardar Sauce 2 ай бұрын +1

    36:41 I haven't laughed that hard in a while

  • SauceySarutobi
    SauceySarutobi 2 ай бұрын +1

    Everyone loves a good sequel

  • Friccle_
    Friccle_ 2 ай бұрын +2

    I find it funny how a video game shows a jedi who has to regain their lost power while being hunted down by an inquisitor better than this show

  • Slim Suits
    Slim Suits Ай бұрын

    This whole review = brilliant and hilarious 👏👏👏

  • Lateral Twitler the Literal Twatler

    1:21 How come modern day LucasArts don't understand that one needs to cover both mouth *AND* nose when breathing under water? Did the same thing in the Boba Fett show, I've seen. Except there it was even worse, as Boba was "asleep" in the tank, and would have no way to make sure he doesn't draw breath with his nose.
    Oh, well ...2 hrs and +30 mins to go.

  • The Way of The Beard
    The Way of The Beard 26 күн бұрын

    1:31:12 so was the Grand Inquisitor just waiting there in case THAT’S the moment that Reva made her move? Also, 10 years of “planning” and the show wants us to believe THAT was her plan to get Vader? I guess maybe she thought Obi would stick around to help, but still, 10 years & all that killing she did, I’d think she’d be a lot more thorough with Obi if that’s the plan she finally decided to go with.

  • zsparaco
    zsparaco 2 ай бұрын +1

    Bro this is the funniest fucking guy ive ever heard words from in my life i swear to god bro i am crying 2 hours straight rn