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The Cynefin Framework

  • Жарияланды 2010 ж. 10 Шіл.

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  • miciamiaomiao
    miciamiaomiao 4 жыл бұрын +26

    had to watch it three times to grasp the meaning, actually it makes very much sense and it's a huge improvement compared to traditional management consulting tools. thanks for explaining so well!

    • Thomas J
      Thomas J 9 ай бұрын

      I paused regularly and took notes. Made perfect sense at the end :) I don't know why this isn't taught in grade school. this is a must have life skill for everyone.

    • Stephanie Barriga
      Stephanie Barriga 3 жыл бұрын

      Wagnerdery has an easier explanation if you want to give it a shot

  • J Fraser Macdonald
    J Fraser Macdonald  Жыл бұрын +2

    This is so great. Making us a tool to be more effective at understanding the dynamics of nature. And how those dynamics relate to our world of interactions. Then in the long term we can turn our attention to the things we are trying to optimise for.

  • ATT-Madmanzila
    ATT-Madmanzila 4 жыл бұрын +8

    I am very interested in seeing some more on the topic, Very nice presentation. Dave has lost at least 20 kgs since and is allot more lively in his presentations. I'm under the suspicion this sensemaking framework concept applies inwards as well as outward.

  • Thierry Hubert
    Thierry Hubert 12 жыл бұрын

    Dave, I think that you are right on, and to find you again after so many years after IBM to discover that your observations are aligned with my work is very encouraging. Thanks again for a great KM World keynote presentation... the best one I have seen in all my years with KM.

  • edgar ortegon
    edgar ortegon 4 жыл бұрын +2

    Excellent presentation. Very useful for understanding the frontiers among four basic domains in complexity theory.

  • Andrew Hodgson
    Andrew Hodgson 11 жыл бұрын +3

    Absolutely brilliant! Clear and to the point. Very helpful. Thanks again

  • Alina Siegfried
    Alina Siegfried 3 жыл бұрын +72

    This is an interesting introduction but would be a hundred times more useful if he used a few simple examples of each.

    • Precy Menor
      Precy Menor  Жыл бұрын

      @Amitava Mitra hello how about a fax machine. That somewhat consistent abd costy but on third time machine sent documents but it had not.

    • insidiousmaximus
      insidiousmaximus  Жыл бұрын

      read more

    • Amitava Mitra
      Amitava Mitra 2 жыл бұрын

      ​@LDRCoach Yes, absolutely correct. It also explains ESIC or Extreme sensitivity to Initial Conditions. According to this framework, we have seen and experienced how Chaos or Edge of Chaos is managed by act-sense and respond strategy which explains the lockdowns in extreme conditions.

    • LDRCoach
      LDRCoach 2 жыл бұрын +2

      @Amitava Mitra I think COVID-19 is a good case study for the Complex domain. Think of all of the patterns we can now recognize in terms of viral spread and our responses. Initially, we probed with many different responses. Now, we understand that wearing two masks, social distancing, and handwashing are extremely effective in minimizing the spread.

    • Amitava Mitra
      Amitava Mitra 2 жыл бұрын +32

      Let me try.
      Simple - Example: Cooking - where you put the same ingredient same process, you get the same outcome. Yes, I know, despite all the drama in a Reality TV show, that's how it is. In other words system with closed boundaries. Another example you have some input and that produces some output where the input has a direct correlation to the output. This is pretty much the cause and effect or linear world that we like to control with Best Practices.
      Complicated - Rocket or Shuttle mission, where multidisciplinary topics or subjects are put to test in a controlled environment and well, if you got experts, right conditions, you are there to see the desired outcome. In fact, our evolving understanding turns to experts, scientists for what we refer to as good practice that we arrive with our experience, sensing then analysis to provide a response.
      Complex - This is where life, nature, the universe becomes more exciting and interesting. I have seen one example during my Masters in this domain, which I liked, so you have to excuse me for my preference here. They say, bringing up a child is a complex dimension. Consider this, you can provide exactly the same input, education, environment, and even genetics i.e. nature and nurture, yet you might get completely different outcomes. This is where emergent practices appear, which is why leaders who are successful, generally probe, and make a sense out of it before they respond. We can say, this domain creates most of our hindsight as in life which can be lived forward but can be understood backward :). Ok, that was a bit of cliche. Lots of research and work has been done in this area on CAS or Complex Adaptive Systems which aims to understand the complexity and the agents, environments, and their relationships. The economy is a good example of a Complex domain.
      Chaos - I guess very easy to understand if you consider movies like Dantes Peak - Volcanic Eruption, or a Blast / Explosion, War, Wildfire etc.etc. You manage the situation by first acting :), which for me is to running away from it and then sensing to provide a response. A Social Crisis, Covid-19 are good examples, don't you think?
      I mentioned the word Universe because we are leading towards chaos where Entropy is ever rising, given that understanding the world, our environment would lead to edge of chaos, which means that our understanding of it becomes ever more important.
      The HBR paper link is here for more scholastic input.
      Take care and be safe and healthy..

  • Jonathan Carter
    Jonathan Carter  Жыл бұрын

    The biggest aha moment I had when I went on the course was his description of the relationship between simplistic - complicated and simple - complex. Would love to see that again with new examples.

  • John Masson
    John Masson  Жыл бұрын +1

    The Cynefin Framework I see can be applied in many situations and is a fresh approach in our current Covid environment.

  • David Shaw
    David Shaw 2 ай бұрын

    Brilliantly presented, clear articulation of principles with key insights

  • Nial O'Reilly
    Nial O'Reilly 6 жыл бұрын +1

    Excellent insight, clearly and authentically articulated.

  • P R
    P R 5 жыл бұрын +1

    Beautifully explained. Thank you.

  • L D
    L D 10 ай бұрын

    I would like to suggest a new addition or awaraness or importance of a dysfunctional environment, although the "cliff" would be a good starting point. In my experience the "cliff" is the difference between an irrational vs rational workplace. If a workplace is irrational (a place of myriad cuts/problems) it feels like listening to your favourite song being chopped down to smaller pieces, shuffled, and then played.

  • Shahad Alalmaee
    Shahad Alalmaee 2 жыл бұрын

    very good explanation. thank you! helped a lot

  • Gooper Loper
    Gooper Loper 9 жыл бұрын +157

    This guy is so smart, he is almost bored by his own grand understanding of this. He can't even muster enough effort to explain formally anymore. "basically you'll start to piss people off" lol

    • The Good, The Bad And the Ugly
      The Good, The Bad And the Ugly  Жыл бұрын

      Well, the dude is quite rich, doing this almost for fun (although probably paying his daily bills with this bullshit).. so you can kind of understand him..

    • mjp152
      mjp152  Жыл бұрын +2

      @Quantum Fine Arts And Fossils What the hell are you talking about? Pretty sure that rant is not Turing complete...

    • Alex Stan
      Alex Stan  Жыл бұрын +4

      @Michael Andrew a comment of a 7 years I'd say

    • Michael Andrew
      Michael Andrew 2 жыл бұрын +4

      lol comment of the day

  • thewiseturtle
    thewiseturtle 3 жыл бұрын +1

    I'm guessing that these four categories map onto the natural personality trait responses of all mammals, fight, flight, freeze, and flow.
    Simple = fight, complicated = flight, complex = freeze, and chaotic = flow.
    Fight type brains tend to respond by trying to control everything.
    Flight types tend to respond by being overwhelmed and looking for protection (external authority).
    Freeze types tend to respond by observation, and patience, waiting for a better opportunity to appear.
    Flow types just go with it, and happily interact in whatever way is effective for the current current. :-)

  • Daan Gorter
    Daan Gorter  Жыл бұрын

    That was amazing. Grateful!

  • Mihai Alexandru Chindriș
    Mihai Alexandru Chindriș 2 жыл бұрын

    quite 'simple' explanation to digest (:

  • CelticCargoCult
    CelticCargoCult 11 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant. Thanks for posting.

  • Wilson Mar
    Wilson Mar  Жыл бұрын +2

    [5:40] "The danger is if you spend 2 or 3 years of your life in a purely bureaucratic process-based grill, you'll see all problems as a failure of process"

  • Toni-Anne Munn
    Toni-Anne Munn 4 жыл бұрын +2

    I personally think this is a great overview of a very complicated topic. I’m not sure what some of these other viewers were looking for? And those talking about the videography...I think your attention was on the wrong thing....

    • Hung Trinh
      Hung Trinh 4 жыл бұрын

      I am personally looking to become more effective and reach my goals. Now, the situations that I will face and the challenges I'll have to overcome can be complex, complicated, simple and sometimes chaotic and that's why I seek out this video. There is a lot of incredible knowledge.

  • Maria Gauthier
    Maria Gauthier  Жыл бұрын

    Love this!!

  • Syamsul Arifin
    Syamsul Arifin  Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing 👍🏻

  • Alex S
    Alex S 2 жыл бұрын +14

    Love how he mixed cause/effect relationships and Windows papyrus font

  • Ulrika Jonson
    Ulrika Jonson 11 жыл бұрын +1

    Apply best practice - good practice - brilliant!

  • Dancing Spiderman
    Dancing Spiderman 7 жыл бұрын +3

    Kevin Cynevin
    Holy Moly.
    this is some incredibly useful concepts.
    I GOTTA learn this.

    • Dancing Spiderman
      Dancing Spiderman 7 жыл бұрын +1

      this guy reminds of The Brain from Pinky And The Brain.
      Kids, drop yer socks and listen to Droopy here. You're about to learn Something.

  • bronxnewbie
    bronxnewbie 3 жыл бұрын +1

    Spot on Mate!!!

  • The Embodiment Channel
    The Embodiment Channel 9 жыл бұрын

    great model, thank you

  • TV 2 FILM
    TV 2 FILM 11 жыл бұрын +2

    Nice Video That You Share , So Very Nice Thanks You Framework is central to Cognitive Edge methods and tools. It allows executives to see things from new viewpoints, assimilate complex concepts, and address real-world problems and opportunities

  • Ravikanth Akupatni
    Ravikanth Akupatni 2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video

  • Q Q
    Q Q 6 жыл бұрын +8

    This framework is relatively difficult to apply or use, it is about communication but is not communicated all that well. It uses words like model, systems theory, and other jargon that makes it sound very intuitive. I could not find any real third party studies showing that it is effective empirically. I would prefer a framework that does not drip with odd sounding jargon. In example the Cynefin framework could be described like other problem solving fameworks. The papyrus font does not help, it is almost as bad as using comic sans. Change the font, remove the jargon, give quality third party sources, and you might have something.

  • auronoxe
    auronoxe 4 жыл бұрын +1

    The Oxford Dictionary says: Disorder is a synonym (!) for chaos. So distinguishing between those two does not make really sense to me. Or in other words: the chosen words "chaotic" and "disorder" do not fit the meaning of those areas in the model well, based on the definition of their meaning in English language. "Disorder" here means as far as I understand something like "unknown" or "unspecified".

  • Martin Silcock
    Martin Silcock 7 ай бұрын

    I worked at Nokia 2007 to 2014 and lives through and observed a cliff edge event as described here. ;)

  • David Sanner
    David Sanner 2 жыл бұрын +3

    Best video on the Cynefin Framework I have seen yet!

  • Francisco Pires
    Francisco Pires 9 жыл бұрын

    Awesome !

  • psionic
    psionic 10 жыл бұрын +7

    my question is: how do you avoid conflating issues of metacognition with informative-narrative of ritualized dissent?

    • northernmagi
      northernmagi  Жыл бұрын


    • Simon Lee
      Simon Lee 2 жыл бұрын +5

      yeah, I can hardly sleep at night...

  • Mark Wentink
    Mark Wentink 2 жыл бұрын +4

    This is a good video ... for sleep training.

  • Syahrul Anuar
    Syahrul Anuar 2 жыл бұрын

    This ties nicely with VUCA.

  • Miklos Kallo
    Miklos Kallo  Жыл бұрын +1

    I'd say you only learn a little on the actual Cynefin Framework from this video, but it is another example of Dave Snowden's generally condescending presentation style. I have just watched a webinar on Cynefin and he still talks as if everyone in the audience were brain dead.

  • King_of_The_North
    King_of_The_North  Жыл бұрын

    Examples would have given context to the explanation. I get the feeling the guy always considers himself the smartest guy in the room.

  • BEST Relaxation Music
    BEST Relaxation Music  3 жыл бұрын +1

    The forgotten Einstein of Ireland ! Genius

  • roger moody
    roger moody 3 жыл бұрын +1

    It’s non linearity! What about abstraction too!

  • Dr. Pierce Otlhogile-Gordon
    Dr. Pierce Otlhogile-Gordon 9 жыл бұрын +1

    Can you explain what exactly you mean by this question? I'm interested in what you're talking about.

  • Adit Saxena
    Adit Saxena 8 жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • Bramh Dev
    Bramh Dev 5 жыл бұрын


  • Sudden Wikholm
    Sudden Wikholm  Жыл бұрын

    This has not been used by governments responding to covid-19.

  • John Martin
    John Martin  Жыл бұрын

    Kind of like heuristics but different

  • S 23
    S 23 7 ай бұрын

    but can it allow you access to TRAVERSABLE WORMHOLES?

  • Josh Delozier
    Josh Delozier  Жыл бұрын

    Do you know someone who can do this type of analysis for a problem that has taken years I have several thousand dollars

  • Satyhamurthy Subramaniam
    Satyhamurthy Subramaniam 4 жыл бұрын +2

    Explain with examples.

    • Harry Raphaël
      Harry Raphaël  Жыл бұрын +1

      @Feroze Ahmed J Thank you!

    • Feroze Ahmed J
      Feroze Ahmed J 3 жыл бұрын +5

      For simple, I'd say baking a cake. I know the resources (inputs) which are needed to bake the cake and I very well know what the output is gonna, which is a cake. For Complicated, consider a vegetable garden. You have good quality soil, you add all fertilizers and suddenly you have a drought. That is not under your control. You may think you'll have a successful garden but you did not see that drought coming your way. Adding one more level of confusion to Complicated will gove us Complex. A good example would be elections. So many factors are considered here. The ruling party loses even after doing good during its tenure. And finally we have Chaos. This is where you have no control or almost little control over things. Floods and other natural disasters are examples of Chaos.

  • Ken McHugh
    Ken McHugh 2 жыл бұрын


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    UAIZcoach 4 ай бұрын


  • Ryan M
    Ryan M 2 ай бұрын

    CGSC 2023!

  • tukansrukan
    tukansrukan 3 жыл бұрын +3

    Everything good... But why is the cook telling about it?

  • Ярослав Рашевски
    Ярослав Рашевски 5 жыл бұрын

    Are Cognitive Edge read this discussions? I have some ideas regarding Cynefin framework. Whom can I talking with?

    • Ярослав Рашевски
      Ярослав Рашевски 5 жыл бұрын

      Thank you Teddy. I recognize it already. Happy new year :-)

    • Teddy Zetterlund
      Teddy Zetterlund 5 жыл бұрын

      Ярослав Рашевски Dave Snowden (the originator) is very active on Twitter.

  • pico
    pico 4 ай бұрын

    Grüsse an Pablo

  • Majed Ahmed
    Majed Ahmed 6 жыл бұрын +1

    you talk about it .....! but not off it ...!
    can you make it simple
    where 6 year old understand it ....!
    can you get to the essence of it ...Core of it ...!

    • Gareth E.
      Gareth E. 2 жыл бұрын

      Look for Snowden's birthday party story as one way of explaining more simply or Jennifer Garvey Berger's video about Cynefin..

  • the Decoy
    the Decoy 7 жыл бұрын +14

    noen som er her på grunn av PU? super cool

  • Broom Harley
    Broom Harley 7 жыл бұрын +2

    It's just a shiny new spin on the same old D.B.T. training.. I was hopeful but it's all old news ... How disappointed I am .... (;

  • Kuyoh
    Kuyoh  Жыл бұрын +2

    Grüße an Komus Abi

  • myRhythm
    myRhythm 4 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry but this is not sinking in very fast. I fail to find more than an esoteric value in it. Not sure where I would ever benefit from it enough to learn it.

    • Hung Trinh
      Hung Trinh 4 жыл бұрын +2

      This has helped me immensely in business.

  • Ziv Poran
    Ziv Poran 9 жыл бұрын +4

    maybe this is very smart, but it is making me feel stupid!!

  • David Jacobo
    David Jacobo 7 жыл бұрын +2

    The deep shadow on the right part of the face is bothering me too much. they should have put a reflector at least! (stupid photography knowledge).

    • spastikxchild13
      spastikxchild13 6 жыл бұрын +3

      what do you expect when they use papyrus as the typeface for the video....AND THE LOGO

  • taykay47
    taykay47 2 жыл бұрын +1

    Shout out eagle flight 21-v4

  • Hank Miller
    Hank Miller 6 жыл бұрын

    typically academic without the tweedy sportscoat and Prius

  • Flummingbird
    Flummingbird 5 жыл бұрын +1

    this fucking music is too much.