Erika is in so much pain still after all these years, it's so hard to watch her try to get through retelling this story. I hope she'll find peace someday
In that second case, and thousands of others like it, they should not allow the assassination of the victims character unless they have unassailable evidence against them. The victims family, who know them better than anyone, should be allowed to speak in their defense in court. It's an abomination that killers get diminished responsibility and a lesser sentence based on outright lies. Not good enough!
@Trading Wizard with money, everything possible! However, I never like the fact defence hits the underbelly and portrays the victim in a way that is not right/ ethical or fair.
What you call "character assassination" came from witnesses in the court trial. And I'm certain the prosecutor called family members as witnesses for the victim, which no doubt also did "character assassination" (to use your term) of the accused. I am sure the jury heard both sides of the story.
Pretty sure defence team puts forward evidence else no Judge allows just words. They must have been drug dealers,evidence of purchase,testimony of close friends and servants,evidence of commission of Lesbian prostitution etc.
We found a skull in our backyard one [horrible] day. We did not sit around rationalizing, we called the police immediately. They showed up in droves, searched everywhere (our property backed up into woods ending at a graveyard) and grilled us all for quite a while. Finally, the coroner was able to discover that the skull was from an embalmed body. Turned out that our dog had retrieved a body part from the graveyard. The caretaker explained that he was digging up some "older" graves (read 10 years) to rebury the remains in the corner in a community grave and that he "must have forgotten a head". Man !! I never knew that they moved people from their "final resting place" to make room for new bodies. Now, when I look at graveyards, I can easily see that without reburying people, there would be no way to have the headstones so close together. Gross
Nothing in the world would make me go into a dark house, never mind a swimming pool in the basement, with a total stranger. I have a phobia about the dark and if I came home and found all the lights off, I wouldn't go in. I'd go to a friends house and have the house checked out in daylight with a group of people with me! The guy who pretended to have lost consciousness was smart, but couldn't he lead police back to that house?
Anne Boleyn , the police weren’t interested. Also, the police have a history of harassment and even attacks of gays, as well as other groups, so the police are often the last place many people will go when something like that happens. That’s why Trump’s criminalizing illegal aliens and treating them so harshly backfires. It breeds crime because criminals know they can victimize immigrants without worrying the victims going to the police.
the beumeister guy is also a suspect in 9 murders of people found along the i-70 freeway ,a route he took often for biz trips.People are super messed up.
Cynthia that string of murders was never officially solved but he was known to travel that route where the bodies were found, they were killed the same way as the victims in his yard and a witness identified herb as the person last seen with one of the victims. i think hes a pretty strong suspect
Absolutely love Christopher Mason, brilliant narrator, very gifted, great sense of humor, beautiful soul, and his choice of clothing yes way out there but I love it. Great, interesting stories, thank you Christopher, keep them going. I send you tons of loving energy, blessings and light .
@Praxy M92 unless she told her sister. I am very close with my sister and tell her everything. I get your point too. Who knows it’s very sad all the same.
I’m pretty sure one of my mom’s friends was one of Herb’s first (undocumented) victims. He fit the profile, and his death was very mysterious- his body was found on the side of the road along I-65 outside of Indy. Other of Herb’s suspected victims were later found along I-70.
@blessed lupupa Doug’s death was shrouded in mystery. I remember my parents and their friends and even talk in town was that the official police explanation was fishy. They claimed it was a hit and run. But I think maybe Doug had driven to Indy, so why would he be walking home along the highway in the middle of the night? That kind of stuff. This was in November of 1979. My step-dad knew Doug too, and was shocked to see him in drag in a hotel restaurant where he was staying on a business trip. So we know Doug would drive 50 miles to express himself- something he couldn’t do even in our very progressive town in Indiana. Doug was very nice, lean and not very tall and from miles away, so I could see him being the perfect target for a predator like Herb.
This version of the story differs in some details from a version I heard earlier. In the first version I heard, the witness was never able to identify the property he had been lured to; instead, one of his friends spotted Baumeister at a bar, followed him outside, and jotted down his license plate number. Baumeister was identified through his car, not property tax records. Also, in that version, the police confronted Mrs. Baumeister at her place of business, not at her home. I wonder why the different versions...
I don’t know what you watched, but this video did say he was identified by the car, and the victim recognised some of the items inside the house when the police took him there.
Absolutely love Christopher Mason, brilliant narrator,very gifted speaker, magic sense of humour, love his dress code, what a beautiful soul. Tons of blessings and light to you Christopher, keep your stories rolling.
I live in Perth, and I used to listen to Paul Murray’s radio talk show each work day at 6PR. It was riveting. Never a dull moment. He could be a little opinionated at times, but he was thorough and real. People either loved or loathed him...a bit like Christopher Mason, I guess. 😂😂😂😂 Personally, I find his pompous narrative grating and ingenuous, unlike Paul Murray’s gritty journalism.
I have known a few very wealthy people. Some were fine, but i have to say the majority were various degrees of creepy, narcissistic, completely materialistic and cold as ice. Not the kind i wanted to be around. Im not impressed by money- I prefer humans.
II live in Indy and I remember when they began digging for the remains of his victims. To find out that something like that was happening only a few miles from where you live and/or work is unsettling. And, not that it really makes a difference ,but he owned a chain of Sav-a-Lot grocery stores...which are still in business.
Ha ha far better than Murican justice system.For selling pot ppl are given life sentence and even if no one dies ppl are given life without parole. The worst Justice system is in USA.
He's rich the judge is rich the barristers are rich they look after each other same as in America the rich live on a different Planet to the rest of us
I'm just happy poor. I've been watching these & I tell you I'm shocked & pray for all these people. It's so sad people die over money. God helps us all no matter how little we have. We're excited & happy to have what ever we get. It's all a little gift. Little is good enough to me.
Rosie Rose The richer people are, the less likely they are to murder. These stories are salacious and interesting but they don’t say anything about rich people as a group.
Well l must say my life is perfect after watching these dreadful people being so greedy regarding money. So glad l never re-married when so many people murder. how sad these people are to let money do these shocking things also lovely animals are involved...
She worked tirelessly in a daycare center for underprivileged kids. That sounds pretty respectable to me! I wonder what it is some of you men wd want us women to be attracted to. I've asked quite a few men what they wd look for in a mate. They usually say blonde hair, nice rack, etc. Guess we've all got our preferences!
I read about the Michael Telling story that: "Monika claimed several times that she had no intention of making a life with her husband, but only wanted his money. In other words, she was a gold digger only looking to only pilfer from the wealth he acquired from the Vestey family. After much disrespect, abuse, and failure of a relationship with Telling, the relationship was bound to explode and terminate. After Monika continuously taunted Telling to no extent, Telling picked up picked up a Marlin 30-30 hunting rifle and shot her. " Relatives often can not see the truth about their loved ones. denisemoak.blogspot.com/2007/12/headless-wife-case.html
The second story the dude sounds like Lochlan from the British Soap, Emmerdale. Spoiled rich brat who kills anyone who doesn't agree with him,and anyone who finds out about his secrets about who he killed.
Well if you trade your self respect for a few years of wealth then you should expect bad things to happen. Sitting around spending someone else's money and not working probably never ends well.
Yeah, like the comment that the ax murderer was a "refined English gentleman"" just because he was rich. Like refined sugar I guess. All white and sparkly, but lacking any redeeming virtue.
denia wise one That's so true. My mother had so much class and we have very little money she could have won the biggest ugliest zirconia ring and people would have thought it was real. not that jewelry really makes you classy but I think you get the point. I sure do miss her
why the hell would someone let someone else do something such sick and disgusting acts on them? Sure Michael blame Monika, paint her like wicked person, she's dead, she cant dispute your claims. There's another judgement awaits beyond this world system, that one no one can escape!
How did he get a visa for Australia? The process is so intense I can't understand how he managed to bypass the criminal questions pertaining to his life.
Don't be so sure that us 'isolated' Sandgropers didn't know about Telling. We all knew, but no-one was game enough to say anything, except my dad. Dad was a friend of his neighbours, Oxford educated and knew many of the Vestey family.
Watch the documentary on this case it is good, it really has a lot more to it. The first case. England let's people like this get away with very few years in prison, their laws on murder are very lax it seems.
I don't blame her for passing him up but she's wrong for passing him off to her sister I feel like she knew it was something off about him and she didn't warn her sister
Its not as though this man was a serial killer, Michael did his time and the press should have left him alone to live out the rest of his life in peace.
I’m asking myself, why would they go and announce about their findings while he wasn’t home. They coulda waited until he got home, they won’t have had to go searching for him. I’ve always found it silly when they gotta publish the findings before they take the suspect in, which gives the person some time to hide, get a new ID made, etc. And some have never been found. Pure stupidity is what I say.
They may a have a great place to live and strive but, it doesn't mean life is all that great... The rich at times appear to be worse off than the poor. What a shame.😑
What I don't understand is why they had to make Monika look bad, in order to prove diminished capacity. If he had been in and out of institutions, his whole life, why couldn't they just use that?
I'm saying this as support for the sister, if. You're reading this, I believe you felt her die. When I was 15, I didn't know my father had been sick. He lived across the country, and didn't want me to worry. Long story short: One Saturday afternoon I tried to call him, but couldn't reach him, I asked my grandma, who lived a short distance away to send someone to check on him.... I had never asked for that, in all the years I had been away. She refused, saying he had just left her house and went home to watch football. I was very upset by that and begged her to send someone, agapanthus I had NEVER done that. After I hung up I went outside, sat on my stoop, and wept for a long time. I didn't know why! My neighbor came home, and asked me what was wrong, I told her I had tried to call my dad and couldn't reach him, my grandma refused to send anyone to check on him, and I was afraid he was dead. I didn't really think about what I was going to say, it just came out of me. I was completely distraught. She asked why I was afraid, had he been sick, and I said, "No, not that I know of.", this seemed to puzzle her, because she then asked why I was afraid he was dead, and I told her, "I don't know, I'm just afraid he's dead!". They found his body two days later. He had barely made it inside the door.... he had not even been able to fully close it behind him, when he was hit by a massive heart attack. It turned out he had been having problems, small attacks, had been to the hospital at least once, I don't remember how many times, I was a mess throughout the next weeks, so don't have very clear memories of the details. But, I completely believe you. You aren't crazy. There are things in this world we don't understand, and I'm sorry.
1993 Indiana- A great country mansion owned by Herb Baumister who got married to Julie and later was admitted to mental hospital. From 1993 to 1995 ten gay men went missing in Indiana and around. Julie’s son found a human skull in their backyard. Later 11 sets of bones were found in his property but HERB was missing.
The homophobia and mental illness stigma in both of these is so disgusting... I can't believe any actual humans think that way, let alone police officers. (Well, actually, I can believe it, because I've seen it. Ugh) I can't help but wonder if any of this would have even happened if LGBTQ people hadn't been so persecuted and ostracised. Herb could have just lived is life as a gay man and not have to kill his partners in order to keep his secret. Who knows, maybe he would have been a killer either way, but I don't think it's likely. Also, schizophrenia doesn't make one kill people. But shame can make one do some pretty crazy shit.
Datuk Awang Kelana The first settlers in Australia, were English convicts. Built a country with inmates... Set them free, to destroy Australian, aboriginals, tribes & family structures, since their beginnings, & takeover their country.. Happened everywhere... Different scenarios & situations....so sad...👣🌏
Erika is in so much pain still after all these years, it's so hard to watch her try to get through retelling this story. I hope she'll find peace someday
In that second case, and thousands of others like it, they should not allow the assassination of the victims character unless they have unassailable evidence against them. The victims family, who know them better than anyone, should be allowed to speak in their defense in court. It's an abomination that killers get diminished responsibility and a lesser sentence based on outright lies. Not good enough!
@Trading Wizard with money, everything possible! However, I never like the fact defence hits the underbelly and portrays the victim in a way that is not right/ ethical or fair.
What you call "character assassination" came from witnesses in the court trial. And I'm certain the prosecutor called family members as witnesses for the victim, which no doubt also did "character assassination" (to use your term) of the accused.
I am sure the jury heard both sides of the story.
Unfortunately this was the time. It also happened with prostitutes and rape victims. Peoples opinions have changed for the better
Pretty sure defence team puts forward evidence else no Judge allows just words.
They must have been drug dealers,evidence of purchase,testimony of close friends and servants,evidence of commission of Lesbian prostitution etc.
We found a skull in our backyard one [horrible] day. We did not sit around rationalizing, we called the police immediately. They showed up in droves, searched everywhere (our property backed up into woods ending at a graveyard) and grilled us all for quite a while. Finally, the coroner was able to discover that the skull was from an embalmed body. Turned out that our dog had retrieved a body part from the graveyard. The caretaker explained that he was digging up some "older" graves (read 10 years) to rebury the remains in the corner in a community grave and that he "must have forgotten a head". Man !! I never knew that they moved people from their "final resting place" to make room for new bodies. Now, when I look at graveyards, I can easily see that without reburying people, there would be no way to have the headstones so close together. Gross
Nothing in the world would make me go into a dark house, never mind a swimming pool in the basement, with a total stranger. I have a phobia about the dark and if I came home and found all the lights off, I wouldn't go in. I'd go to a friends house and have the house checked out in daylight with a group of people with me!
The guy who pretended to have lost consciousness was smart, but couldn't he lead police back to that house?
You and I are the same people.I can't meet any stranger in a private setting
Anne Boleyn right!!? Nice name, by the way!😄💖
Same here!!
Anne Boleyn , the police weren’t interested. Also, the police have a history of harassment and even attacks of gays, as well as other groups, so the police are often the last place many people will go when something like that happens. That’s why Trump’s criminalizing illegal aliens and treating them so harshly backfires. It breeds crime because criminals know they can victimize immigrants without worrying the victims going to the police.
Surely schizophrenics can’t plot like this. It sounds much more like narcissistic psychopathy
True....
the beumeister guy is also a suspect in 9 murders of people found along the i-70 freeway ,a route he took often for biz trips.People are super messed up.
The a whole of of the I-70 killers were found just passed Richmond, IN. In Preble County. OH.
Cynthia that string of murders was never officially solved but he was known to travel that route where the bodies were found, they were killed the same way as the victims in his yard and a witness identified herb as the person last seen with one of the victims. i think hes a pretty strong suspect
Absolutely love Christopher Mason, brilliant narrator, very gifted, great sense of humor, beautiful soul, and his choice of clothing yes way out there but I love it. Great, interesting stories, thank you Christopher, keep them going. I send you tons of loving energy, blessings and light .
I love his red socks 😍😍& I agree about his choice of words and clear yet humorous delivery of the subject matter
He's not the narrator. He just introduces and closes each episode.
I absolutely..love these episodes.
Can they bring more back...
Yeah
How would Monika's sister know about the way she was with her husband? Lots of times one sibling doesn't know about the other sibling!
@Praxy M92 unless she told her sister. I am very close with my sister and tell her everything. I get your point too. Who knows it’s very sad all the same.
@Doreen Sika there are still other things that are unknown.
@Doreen Sika Yes she would be different.
Christine Haigh if you know how your sister is as a person I’m sure you will know how she is as a wife. Cause she wouldn’t be any different.
I’m pretty sure one of my mom’s friends was one of Herb’s first (undocumented) victims. He fit the profile, and his death was very mysterious- his body was found on the side of the road along I-65 outside of Indy. Other of Herb’s suspected victims were later found along I-70.
@Matt's Kaustic Komments thank you for shading more light
@blessed lupupa Doug’s death was shrouded in mystery. I remember my parents and their friends and even talk in town was that the official police explanation was fishy. They claimed it was a hit and run. But I think maybe Doug had driven to Indy, so why would he be walking home along the highway in the middle of the night? That kind of stuff. This was in November of 1979. My step-dad knew Doug too, and was shocked to see him in drag in a hotel restaurant where he was staying on a business trip. So we know Doug would drive 50 miles to express himself- something he couldn’t do even in our very progressive town in Indiana. Doug was very nice, lean and not very tall and from miles away, so I could see him being the perfect target for a predator like Herb.
Wow
First story, the son- 'can I keep it?' Probably exactly what I would of said as a kid
I could relate to this too. many kids would have kept it?
Lol, exactly!! I cracked up when he asked if he could keep it.
+Leopararouen when I was a child there was a graveyard in the town where I lived and all it said was "the dead shall live". Creepy.
39:44 "The criminal system treats one better if one is rich and guilty than if one is poor and innocent." Bryan Stevenson
Who finds a skull and does not call the police?
one who beheaded it there in the first place
The killer
Julia
I'm guessing people who don't want the bother that comes with it. (Not that I think it's a bother)
This version of the story differs in some details from a version I heard earlier. In the first version I heard, the witness was never able to identify the property he had been lured to; instead, one of his friends spotted Baumeister at a bar, followed him outside, and jotted down his license plate number. Baumeister was identified through his car, not property tax records. Also, in that version, the police confronted Mrs. Baumeister at her place of business, not at her home. I wonder why the different versions...
I don’t know what you watched, but this video did say he was identified by the car, and the victim recognised some of the items inside the house when the police took him there.
The video DOES talk about Brian writing down the plate number….
'tendrils of disquiet...crept into their marriage'. I dont know if he writes these beauties....but Christopher Mason is the reason I come here
Absolutely love Christopher Mason, brilliant narrator,very gifted speaker, magic sense of humour, love his dress code, what a beautiful soul. Tons of blessings and light to you Christopher, keep your stories rolling.
Mars Attax He comes up with pure gems.
Mars Attax. SPOKE MY MIND!🕺🏽
I just wanna learn how to walk like Christopher Mason; so gently yet with so much poise and personality
You can almost FEEL Monica's pain. Bless you
with all the house staff etc... how could he have a dead body in the sauna for 5 months without someone knowing ???????
I live in Perth, and I used to listen to Paul Murray’s radio talk show each work day at 6PR. It was riveting. Never a dull moment. He could be a little opinionated at times, but he was thorough and real. People either loved or loathed him...a bit like Christopher Mason, I guess. 😂😂😂😂 Personally, I find his pompous narrative grating and ingenuous, unlike Paul Murray’s gritty journalism.
I went to high school with Erika. We had the same science class. She was quiet and friendly.
I have known a few very wealthy people. Some were fine, but i have to say the majority were various degrees of creepy, narcissistic, completely materialistic and cold as ice. Not the kind i wanted to be around. Im not impressed by money- I prefer humans.
I second that.🙏💕🇮🇪
Who would want to live in a house previously occupied by a serial killer?
Me too. They always feel superior and think they live above the law
I love how the men are willing to believe the murder was justified. shit dude most get divorced they don't kill.
My Dad would never have set a man up with an older daughter if the man was hitting on the one too young!
Having sex 6 times within 25 years of marriage????
She was 18 according to the story.
@Heather Stewart They said she was 18. That's not pedophilic lmao. Heck, not even illegal.
Creepy? Depends on his age at that time, but maybe
1 billion dollars..
Terrific stories - thanks CMM !!
Your son finds a Skelton in the back yard and you don't call the police? Let alone let your kid play with it.
II live in Indy and I remember when they began digging for the remains of his victims. To find out that something like that was happening only a few miles from where you live and/or work is unsettling. And, not that it really makes a difference ,but he owned a chain of Sav-a-Lot grocery stores...which are still in business.
people use the word love to trap someone slot of times ... love cost nothing at all it comes from deep within
a dark large mansion filled with creepy mannequins?
Erica had a great attachment towards Monica, I wish you peace and love Erica !
What the HELL is up with Britains life sentence...10 YEARS!! Ugh...Thankfully He's not walking the earth any more.
Ha ha far better than Murican justice system.For selling pot ppl are given life sentence and even if no one dies ppl are given life without parole.
The worst Justice system is in USA.
He's rich the judge is rich the barristers are rich they look after each other same as in America the rich live on a different Planet to the rest of us
It's that way in every Commonwealth country.
No such thing as justice.
The second story would be perfect for "Britain's Darkest Taboos".
I'm just happy poor. I've been watching these & I tell you I'm shocked & pray for all these people. It's so sad people die over money. God helps us all no matter how little we have. We're excited & happy to have what ever we get. It's all a little gift. Little is good enough to me.
God helps us all ............never ever....... people say: help yourself...then god will help you...sorry if i shake your faith....
Rosie Rose The richer people are, the less likely they are to murder. These stories are salacious and interesting but they don’t say anything about rich people as a group.
I guess we have to add psychiatric evaluation to our list for prerequisite to marriage
Michael Telling kept the head knowingly to provide a defense of diminished capacty.
I like how there’s literally a huge elephant in the room in Michael’s picture.
Amazing how rich people can get away with murder! I have lots of questions to ask God when I get to the other side:-)
After hundreds of this videos, we can appreciate our humble life, that is happy and peaceful.!!
55555 et
i guess one never knows who we think we know.
That property Fox Hollow Farm is haunted! Ghost adventures crew did a lockdown there and it's creepy as hell!
Ghost adventures is soooo ridiculous!!
The only thing creepy is the people in the show. Those programs are a complete waste of time.
Well l must say my life is perfect after watching these dreadful people being so greedy regarding money. So glad l never re-married when so many people murder. how sad these people are to let money do these shocking things also lovely animals are involved...
don't ask questions ...dont rock the boat...keep the money and insanity rollin along - typical for the "wealthy and well-heeled"
The poor are also killers not only the rich
#FACTS
She worked tirelessly in a daycare center for underprivileged kids. That sounds pretty respectable to me! I wonder what it is some of you men wd want us women to be attracted to. I've asked quite a few men what they wd look for in a mate. They usually say blonde hair, nice rack, etc. Guess we've all got our preferences!
This wife knew but had chosen not to know. Money and again money prevented her to tell of her weirdo hubby.
richard ciborowski How do you know money was the reason ?
I believe you, I felt the same way when my Mother pass!🙏💞
no evidence to arrest the guy but a survivor was able to identify him his car and his mansion?? that sucks
I read about the Michael Telling story that: "Monika claimed several times that she had no intention of making a life with her husband, but only wanted his money. In other words, she was a gold digger only looking to only pilfer from the wealth he acquired from the Vestey family. After much disrespect, abuse, and failure of a relationship with Telling, the relationship was bound to explode and terminate. After Monika continuously taunted Telling to no extent, Telling picked up picked up a Marlin 30-30 hunting rifle and shot her. "
Relatives often can not see the truth about their loved ones.
denisemoak.blogspot.com/2007/12/headless-wife-case.html
The second story the dude sounds like Lochlan from the British Soap, Emmerdale. Spoiled rich brat who kills anyone who doesn't agree with him,and anyone who finds out about his secrets about who he killed.
The dad in the second story offering up his other daughter is so unsettling
Well if you trade your self respect for a few years of wealth then you should expect bad things to happen. Sitting around spending someone else's money and not working probably never ends well.
24 oras
Jean Rhodes 24
Yes sir.
Marrying a wealthy man who you don't know much is not a good idea.
@S Fletch I agree because there have been happy marriages throughout history and there still are!
She married the money
@Carrie Cruz padilla Did you get married?
For money people would do everything.... even being blind and submissive justified their action, and so his action.
When are the English going to understand that "class" is NOT an inherent status position but a recognized behavior denoting respect?
My dad always used to tell my mom, "You've got no class, Dorene. You've got NO class!"
Yeah, like the comment that the ax murderer was a "refined English gentleman"" just because he was rich.
Like refined sugar I guess.
All white and sparkly, but lacking any redeeming virtue.
denia wise one
That's so true. My mother had so much class and we have very little money she could have won the biggest ugliest zirconia ring and people would have thought it was real. not that jewelry really makes you classy but I think you get the point. I sure do miss her
@Christine Wilson Right! It aint just the English that are confused though. Americans think "class" is something you buy! ;-)
Thank you and you dam sure cant buy it either...you either have it or you dont.
why the hell would someone let someone else do something such sick and disgusting acts on them?
Sure Michael blame Monika, paint her like wicked person, she's dead, she cant dispute your claims. There's another judgement awaits beyond this world system, that one no one can escape!
Money breeds narcissists unfortunately.. at least he FINALLY got caught! Nine skeletons for heavens sake..
It truly seems millionaires loose their souls, maybe they never had one.
I think these are hollow beings whose only criterion is money......how pitiful
How did he get a visa for Australia? The process is so intense I can't understand how he managed to bypass the criminal questions pertaining to his life.
Don't be so sure that us 'isolated' Sandgropers didn't know about Telling. We all knew, but no-one was game enough to say anything, except my dad. Dad was a friend of his neighbours, Oxford educated and knew many of the Vestey family.
The actress in this first story is the same one who played Generosa Ammon in 'Death in the Hamptons".
Fantastic series.
Watch the documentary on this case it is good, it really has a lot more to it. The first case. England let's people like this get away with very few years in prison, their laws on murder are very lax it seems.
Love that plaid shirt Chris Mason, and the bowtie? Love it with a punch of yellow.
He looks like a picnic table/clown! Ugh!
Chris dresses like a clown. I like that
Mahcyah S. Christopher is flaming, hope he doesn't end up one of the stars of this show.
Mahcyah S. He gives me ideas for NY wardrobe.
nice house as always.
This series doesn't make videos about poor people who get murdered.
OMG , HOW COULD ANYONE TO BE AS DEMONIC ? ?
Herb was a very ignorant and predictable man, rest in peace to all his victims🙏 this case really creeps me out because he had two lives🤮
I don't blame her for passing him up but she's wrong for passing him off to her sister I feel like she knew it was something off about him and she didn't warn her sister
Mo Ellis monika could have said no as well.
Its not as though this man was a serial killer, Michael did his time and the press should have left him alone to live out the rest of his life in peace.
I’m asking myself, why would they go and announce about their findings while he wasn’t home. They coulda waited until he got home, they won’t have had to go searching for him. I’ve always found it silly when they gotta publish the findings before they take the suspect in, which gives the person some time to hide, get a new ID made, etc. And some have never been found. Pure stupidity is what I say.
They only had sex 6 times in 25 years but had children?! Those are really good odds 🤦♀️
Thinking 🤔 about probability in mathematics?,
I was thinking the same thing.
I naturally love his suits and ties 😊😊😊😘
They may a have a great place to live and strive but, it doesn't mean life is all that great... The rich at times appear to be worse off than the poor. What a shame.😑
PLEASE more on behind mansion walls🥰👍🌍👍😎
I believe the sister and the premonition she felt.
Sometime...some think the grass is greener, but that's Only to cover the bones thrown out of the Mansions into their Mausoleum!
What I don't understand is why they had to make Monika look bad, in order to prove diminished capacity. If he had been in and out of institutions, his whole life, why couldn't they just use that?
I bet the mannequins were the bodies of the other men he killed and he dumped them before his wife got back.
Human remains in the backyard is not that strange, it has been known to be good fertilizer so you can grow epic tomatoes :D
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His actions after the murder speaks more like he premeditated the entire murder!! Sad
1:36 Scared the living sh*t outta me!
So just what was his motive if she wasn’t abusive. Did the prosecution ever come up with the motive?
She hit the nail on the head, "If it had been young blonde co-eds"
I'm saying this as support for the sister, if. You're reading this, I believe you felt her die. When I was 15, I didn't know my father had been sick. He lived across the country, and didn't want me to worry. Long story short: One Saturday afternoon I tried to call him, but couldn't reach him, I asked my grandma, who lived a short distance away to send someone to check on him.... I had never asked for that, in all the years I had been away. She refused, saying he had just left her house and went home to watch football. I was very upset by that and begged her to send someone, agapanthus I had NEVER done that. After I hung up I went outside, sat on my stoop, and wept for a long time. I didn't know why! My neighbor came home, and asked me what was wrong, I told her I had tried to call my dad and couldn't reach him, my grandma refused to send anyone to check on him, and I was afraid he was dead.
I didn't really think about what I was going to say, it just came out of me. I was completely distraught. She asked why I was afraid, had he been sick, and I said, "No, not that I know of.", this seemed to puzzle her, because she then asked why I was afraid he was dead, and I told her, "I don't know, I'm just afraid he's dead!". They found his body two days later. He had barely made it inside the door.... he had not even been able to fully close it behind him, when he was hit by a massive heart attack. It turned out he had been having problems, small attacks, had been to the hospital at
least once, I don't remember how many times, I was a mess throughout the next weeks, so don't have very clear memories of the details.
But, I completely believe you. You aren't crazy. There are things in this world we don't understand, and I'm sorry.
1993 Indiana- A great country mansion owned by Herb Baumister who got married to Julie and later was admitted to mental hospital. From 1993 to 1995 ten gay men went missing in Indiana and around. Julie’s son found a human skull in their backyard. Later 11 sets of bones were found in his property but HERB was missing.
Lol "Can I keep it?" that is such a little boy line.
The homophobia and mental illness stigma in both of these is so disgusting... I can't believe any actual humans think that way, let alone police officers. (Well, actually, I can believe it, because I've seen it. Ugh) I can't help but wonder if any of this would have even happened if LGBTQ people hadn't been so persecuted and ostracised. Herb could have just lived is life as a gay man and not have to kill his partners in order to keep his secret. Who knows, maybe he would have been a killer either way, but I don't think it's likely. Also, schizophrenia doesn't make one kill people. But shame can make one do some pretty crazy shit.
My father made my dates come into the house and meet him before I could go anywhere and that's the way fathers should be
My Daddy too! And heaven help the guy who pulled up and blew the horn....😧😂
When woman see a guy playing guns in the house need to move on quickly😨
The dad was pimping. He could smell money.
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In the 2nd story, the father hands this strange guy off to his first daughter 'cuz she the oldest? What is this? The middle ages?
Even for the Middle Ages it would be weird, considering how they met him.
Julie Baumeister handled a human skull, then went back to chopping salad WITHOUT WASHING HER HANDS!!!!!
And that's why it's dramatization
Sundiata Keita =D =D =D
Probably because this was a fake one in a reenactment lol
One word "reenactment"
😂😂 you niticed huh
the cops did question Herbert B. according to an episode of American Justice years ago on A&E
This ain’t schzrophrenia. This man is a mad man.
You would thinking after 25 years together he would of got over being self conscience
Guess money makes one blind to obvious factors.
"What's a homosexual murder?" I mean damn, lady...
@Declan Newton Agree, it`s a very strange to put it.
She didn't want to know.
@Jordana Beaulieu she gets the gold medal every 4 years like the Olympics
@Sonja Teal Lol😂
@Jordana Beaulieu That should be grounds for divorce just on principle alone!😄
He said people went missing that shouldn't be missing... Wtf?
The question is : Who should be missing?
I assume he meant people who wouldn't disappear out of nowhere with no warning. People with family and community ties.
The police! Duh! Shame on them.
That’s why they said money doesn’t bring happiness. And for me never did .
16:30 Unbelievable, they did not follow a very credible lead.
'Diminished responsibility'. Oh, I guess not being responsible does pay.
A runaway English villain hiding in Australia. Why does it sound so familiar?
@Nisuaiu Kaurua there was tribal wars before the white man came
Lol, history repeats until the villains heal their DNA...
Natashya Mensing
I SAID THAT...IN MY ORIGINAL COMMENT...
I DONT HAVE TO SUCK ANYTHING UP...
I KNOW...👣👍☝💚👆🌏🌈
Datuk Awang Kelana
The first settlers in Australia, were English convicts.
Built a country with inmates...
Set them free, to destroy Australian, aboriginals, tribes & family structures, since their beginnings,
& takeover their country..
Happened everywhere...
Different scenarios & situations....so sad...👣🌏
Somebody should write a book about this guy Herb.