I cannot describe how happy I am to know that the only primitive channel (PT) I'm watching is legit. There's something to this guy I've always highly respected, and now even more.
that was my first thought when I first saw these. I hadn't realized they were staged, but I did think, "it's nice they have such good earth to work with!" You certainly can't do that everywhere.
Well, that's dependent on region, and in most places they will have deep layers of dirt and soil, however it usually is not soft and full of rocks and stuff. Although clay dirt is not as rare as you might think, but again its full of rocks.
@RCLefty027LOL yeah it was crazy. You could never leave mcgyver with anything, not even a single crumb. Otherwise he’ll find some way to engineer it into some crazy machine or device haha
Primitive Tech is the only one I ever watch, as a child I used to try to build tiny houses, and made tools out of whatever I could. Wanted to learn how to live off the land only so it interests me in a few ways.
I grew up hacking down trees and building forts in the Amazon rainforest with my friends as a young teen. When I saw these videos my first initial reaction was "huh, we couldn't have dug 3 square inches without hitting roots the size of your arm"
@Wuhan Clan Thing is, the people from the fake primitive constructions videos always dig in areas surrounded by trees. You forgot the context of the comment.
Even when they are not digging anywhere near trees or shrubbery or anything of the like? What, there are giant arm sized roots all over the place under the ground? Cmon
John’s is the first channel I started watching (and the only one I follow). Primitive Technology doesn’t fall into the realm of the ridiculous. John meticulously explains every step with captions (it took me a couple of years to find that out 😌) and there’s reasoning behind everything. I won’t lie, I watch some of the other videos for comedic purposes because it is so irrational it becomes funny.
Having dug a fairly decent amount of holes by hand on my channel, I knew something was up with those guys! This is such a great video exposing those channels. Thanks for taking the time to make it. But more so for giving John (OG Primitive Technology) the exposure he deserves. He was so ahead of the trends way back when he started. His authenticity and uniqueness had me glued to his channel. When these other channels popped up not long after, I could tell something wasn’t right. They could have at least not dressed EXACTLY like OG Primitive Tech. With the shorts etc, I also noticed last year that all these channels had their KZclip accounts set to “United States”, which was strange. Either way, I hope that people who watch this video go straight over to OG Primitive Technology and give him a sub and watch all his videos. He was (and still is) the best no-talk Primitive Channel out there.
@Maple Leaf i agree it depends on thebwork but I've had to do the work they did for 7 years. You can eat as much as you want but 10-12 hours of work from sunrise to sunset 5-7 days a weeks takes up all that food intake. It leaves you slim but muscular and im not talking about gym bodies either. Go look at pictures of slaves and you'll see the ripped i'm talking about. These guys on the other hand have no muscles going through on their hits. 1 hour of digging by hand, no breaks, your muscles would be showing and these guys claim to do it all day for months on end and been doing it for about 3 years, they should be ripped
@Tarik M. Depends on the work, stuff like this is endurance and their food intake is not conducive to building bulky muscles. Lean is what the body type would be for this endurance type work make. Especially with their ethnicity and region (food) they would be small lean things, but they can work hard and forever.
@Filipe Lobo I became a pro ground plate digger (back when I was just an apprentice electrician) lots of trees n rocks where I live so I would always set up with a shovel, hammer drill with a big long bit and a sawzall. The hammer drill, I just shove into the ground and stir it a bit, this loosens up the ground so much. Sawzall for any root... Easy n fast
Another concern that wasn't addressed is that once those holes and pools are left abandoned, they become a death trap for animals. Building them on an industrial scale just to later abandon them should be treated like an environmental crime
@clipclop15 There are a few cases where abandoned swimming pools will exist in the middle of the woods. Depending on where you‘re at, you could fall into a cold algae pool.
@osasunaitor I love all these comments that assume the laws for building in Cambodia, Indonesia or wherever these people are from are the same as here in the USA. And I also love the thinking that people in the USA who live way out owning a bunch of land would really care about regulations. They live way out there to avoid dealing with regulations!
I honestly don't get why they feel they need to decieve people. I watched a construction company's hour long timelapse of them completely remodeling someone's backyard and creating an amazing pool, deck & landscaping with the latest tools and tech avaliable and it was as riveting as watching two half naked dude (pretend to) build a two story pool using rocks and sticks.
Because they miss the point of John's videos, which are a DIY instructional on how to live in a forest or jungle and create bricks, cement, furnaces and huts from the available materials in the area.
I am only a bit vary on the amount and methods of his iron production, but his woodworking skills especially in the newer videos are impressive to say the least.
And now that KZclip has taken dislikes away, it is even harder to spot fake channels. While this primitive building is not really all that detrimental to daily use, a lot of repair/restoration channels are fake, which might actually hurt some people, if they attempt to do or follow alongside the videos for their items that need repair/restoration.
I LOVE this video. There was always something that irked me about a lot of those "primitive" channels and I could never quite put my finger on exactly what it was, but this fully confirms and validates those feelings I was having lol
Hey SunnyV2, i can only say... THANK YOU. We are survival-ish content creators here in Brazil and we often have to deal with questions and critics from people saying things like "you guys are weak, i've seen many videos from other channels that are faster and do incredible things in the jungle". This kind of videos create a fake ideia that survival can be easy and you can "prosper" in the jungle, wich cant be more far from the truth. Anyway, thanks for the content and explanation! Greetings!
@Guts Yeah, the OG built things like blast furnaces for ore processing, and hearths for cooking and staying warm/alive. The copycats built nonsense like extravagant swimming pools of stagnant water in the jungle. Our dude was experimenting with recreating and preserving essential technologies that were pivotal for our species, and these other dipshits were doing interior decorating.
They also never actually make anything practical on those channels. I don't think I would be concerned about building a swimming pool if I was stranded in the amazon.
@Peter Maddison I just reported all the fake ones as I see them. And all their channels too. And it's nothing personal. I do this quality control for all videos recommended to me, to train the algorithm so it gives mentally healthier videos, and just doing a small part for the world as well getting rid of rubbish scams
I watched him start a fire with the fire drill. The camera kept watching his work and kept it all in the sight of the viewer until he had flame. The others, even some survival skill videos in the US cut in the middle and magically a fire appears. I don't watch that channel again when that happens. I enjoy primitive Technology videos and never detect any fakery.
Not me having an anxiety spike before this episode began. "No.... Not him. Please let there be some honesty left on the internet." I tell you, the sigh of relief I let out....
The structures are amazing. But I did wonder about the ground they were digging in. It's seemed so easy to move huge amounts of dirt and yet the walls stay up. But I never though about it any further.
@Avenger A cubic yard of clay weighs about 2300 lbs. So now estimate how many cubic yards they excavate and finish the math. To start you out, one build involved a shallow swimming pool. Let's call that 1 yard deep and 5 yards by 3 yards in area. So 15 cubic yards x 2300 lbs = 34,500 total lbs (17.25 tons).
yeah. that's what always made me call bs. the digging is one thing but to actually remove the dirt as well would require just as much effort if not more the further down you dig. lol. it just became silly after a certain point. still kinda relaxing though. but they definitely overreached for clicks.
As these "builds" have become more and more grandiose, the sheer amount of dirt/rocks/soil/clay that must be excavated must be staggering! We're talking about many many cubic yards! But it's not so staggering if you've got use of even a smaller backhoe or skid steer. Bottom line, these structures are less amazing when constructed by a full crew of professionals using modern equipment.
Hey man, I’m a Ukrainian scout that attended camp for a month. The one with the putting poles up with rocks, mud, and dirt is actually valid, as we managed to solidly place a 20ft tall log flag pole up with rocks and dirt. The cementing technique is kinda valid, although we used mud/clay mixed with water and leaves to create surprisingly strong barriers when mixed with sticks in the wall. We also created a massive maze gate that was like 15 feet tall, without modern technology obviously 💀
The difference between your cement technique, and the one shown in the video is the vegetation. The leaves (And I'm also assuming grass. You can do it without grass, but your end result is much stronger with something like grass, or any other kind of long thin vegetation.) you used are actually essential.This technique is also seen in Medieval Europe and isn't actually cement. It's called Wattle and Dab. It was among the most common building material for structures amongst those who were not wealthy. Although they also typically used herbivore feces. ONLY Herbivore feces. PLEASE don't use carnivore, or omnivore feces, or you will absolutely regret it. Haha
I mean the charm of watching Primitive Technology's original and current videos is seeing the power of a single human dedicated to forging simple solutions known by our ancestors that can keep you alive. All these underground swimming pools and mansions are insane and tacky af. And always have no drainage so are doomed to become algae swamps if they were even real
@Wuhan Clan yeah dude. I'm a paid troll for Primitive Technology. While he goes out bush to make his videos he pays thousands of accounts to go and promote him on yt comments. That's how a simple peasant makes it to big kulak status
That's one thing I really like about Primitive Technology. It just looks like someone who does something in his normal life, then going out into the woods and trying to replicate what could've been done way back when. While a lot of skill goes into that, you see he's not doing that every day all day.
I think people's first mistake was believing those builds were legitimate in the first place. As long as the videos generate views, they're happy. They don't seem too concerned with being genuinely primitive/handmade. With that being said, the builds themselves are pretty impressive and do require a lot of talent and craftsmanship to make. John of the original PT of course is a mastermind, and it adds a whole new layer of grandeur for that reason, but people still get entertainment out of watching the "fake" ones too.
Also, I'm pretty sure vietnamese are more culturally entitled since they have been building mud huts in the jungle for millenia, while the single 'murican guy not even when his ancestors came to USA had that style
I can tell you one immediate thing that invalidates almost all underground buildings: I live in Minnesota. We have a long stretch of yard along our street, so most of the snow gets dumped there. We are fine with this because we like building forts out of the snow. What I found out very quickly, is that even with a shovel, not even a stick, it takes a long time and lots of effort. I’m 13 and it takes me a full hour and a half to dig a “cave” big enough to fit myself in, and that is when I only have to move the snow a few feet. These guys are digging penthouses underground, which should take a few months at least, not to mention erosion.
@Espeon Mistress It's far simpler. If the soil is hard enough to survive erosion for 100 days (that's the claimed build time in some of those videos), then it's also hard to excavate.
Interesting - Primitive Technology is the only channel I've ever watched for these building videos. i remember starting to watch some videos from other channels and I've always backed out within a minute or two, just subconsciously I knew something wasn't right but this is a great video detailing exactly what I didn't notice but my brain did.
I always wondered about the lack of roots in de ground. Also : can we all bump up primitive technology just for the heck of it? That dude really seems to be the real deal without wanting to burn down others. Which is admirable since the fakers probably take away the spotlight from him.
*I am a particle physicist, engineer and general craftsman in the construction trades; I didn't need to question the validity of these channels lol.* My brother is also very high up in film and television production making it even more obvious to me. *A dozen people or more are building these structures and just as likely even using hand power tools.*
Not sure who was grifted by these guys but the scale of their underground swimming pools and stuff are insane and I don't think anyone really bought that it was two guys making this. If you've ever seen Primitive Technology's channel, you can tell the difference.
Every time I commented on these videos people called me a hater and said I was jealous lol. This is satisfying verification for sure. As a construction worker I knew there was no way.
Sounds like the people who keep drooling over Primitive Tech on this vid's thread... ooooh, if anyone says any video is real other than Primitive Tech then it hurts their feewings.
I am so thankful for this video! 💖 I myself have a mid range talent of primitive technology. Not near the levels of the "Primitive technology" channel. But I very much enjoyed his videos. From the first video of these fakers I was sceptical. They made me for a moment feel like I was actually trash at my bush work. I had a feeling it was fake, but never cared to watch them enough to know... well, thank you sir. Now I know. I have been subscribed to the original "Primitive technology" channel for quite some years now. His work deserves more credit that these people clearoy steal. Can only hope more people know or see this video.
As someone who works outside for a living, I've been saying this for years. Digging a hole is hard. Cutting lumber is hard. Digging a cave and building a cabin inside in the span of a week without power tools is superhuman. The builds are impressive...but it's the lying that curdle my milk.
If the videos were a whole team of people coordinating to make these structures that would honestly be way cooler than just the 2 guys, it more accurately simulates what it might actually be like if they were in primitive times. minus the machine equipment of course lol
I thought it was pretty obvious they weren't actually doing this by hand. Anybody that's ever tried to dig a hole deeper than a few feet would know what a nightmare this would be without machines
I asked my grandpa why all the houses built pre-1940 only had five foot high basements. He told me that if you were digging a basement with a shovel, you wouldn’t want to dig out another 600 square feet of earth another foot down.
I loved making tiny huts in forests when I was younger. They more looked like teepees tents. (I mean like logs resting against each other in that shape.) Then having battles with friends and family with like sticks as swords and that.
I was a fan of Primitive Technology before he was well known (less than 100k), and yes I’ll brag about it unnecessarily because..well..that guy is just awesome lol. It makes me mad people stole his genre but..without actually doing the work.
Yeah, I never watched more than a few seconds of those Primitive Technology copycat channels before I realised the fakery - I watch all of John's though... Even digging a 6-foot fox hole with a small shovel is hard enough (just ask any soldier). Faking it just for money is one thing but the environmental damage as you point out is the thing that annoys me most. Hopefully, this video will help to spread the word and the popularity will fade out until it's not commercially viable anymore. Cheers :)
I was hooked for awhile watching some of those fake primitive tech vids and had a ton of similiar questions about them being legit. Then I watched a guy who legit built a tunnel from his detached garage to his house and the engineering feat it took for him to do the project. He meticulously video'd every step of the tunnel and it was clear the labour and effort he put in - not to mention the long duration. And when I realized the amount of shoring and support structure he had to design and put in to keep the tunnel from collapsing, all I could think of was the fakery of the primitive technology builds.
I was one of the first subscribers of primitive technology and knew straight away that he is legit, since than I never watched any other. Also the delay of putting a new video on his channel shows that it's legit
I remember seeing one of these that was like a little underground pool with rest/sleep benches and candle shelves and my first thought was "Well they're full of shot and didn't do that by hand. Looks cool though, I'd put something like that in if I could afford a decent amount of land"
I have watched hours of these video... and I have always wondered how they can manage to do this. It always seems to be too complex for 2 guys doing something like that. In the back of my head I knew it was only fun to watch and nothing more
Math not even once. I'm tired of all those south asian spamming channels invading restoriarion videos, primitive videos, life hacks videos. It's like they see a trend and they make a completely over the top, unrealistic copy of it.
i got suspicious of them after watching my second video because i saw how close together these videos were. the first one i thought that it was cool that a couple of guys were willing to go so far to make something so interesting but once the illusion is shattered you cant unsee it
I’ve used rocks to back fill post holes, key is to make the holes a little wider and deeper then standard. Works well and provides drainage around the post. 80% cheaper
I've been watching Primitive Technology after reading a book called 'How to Start a Civilization" which is about how the fundamental technologies such as making charcoal, brewing, and many others were discovered. But I've never cared to read his description. I hope more people get to know of his work and gets paid for the labour he puts in. (Even if that's not his intention behind creating the channel)
One correction/note, tamped gravel is a legit way to secure a post in a hole, it kinda locks together to the point where the post is held about as well as concrete. It's definitely more work than just halfassedly throwing some rocks in a hole with a post, however.
Wow, I pretty much forgot about Primitive Technology. Used to watch him in maybe 2016 or 2017. Middle school me loved watching those. Bouta take a nostalgia trip.
As someone with 10 years of construction experience, the funniest part of faking this is that they could just be honest about how they're building it and it'd still be impressive.
Yeah, but then people wouldn't watch it. What made these videos enjoyable was the satisfaction of them doing everything "primitively" and still managing to create something amazing. Doing everything with modern machinery would make this more like walking to a nearby construction site and watching that. It's not as interesting and they knew that. That's why they lied.
Great video, thank you for confirming what I was thiniking for long time. I am watching John Plant´s videos since begining and they always amazed me. Therefore I was so angry when I saw these fake ones in suggestions.They were too perfect and missing that magic which John was able to do.
Man, I'm glad primitive technology is legit, he was the first channel I ever watched, and I loved it. I hated all the copycat channels that followed. I liked the channels that focus on the primitive methods, it's interesting to see how things like Bricks, and Blacksmithing were done to make the tools we now use today. It makes you appreciate how hard work it was back then for something so simple
While John's videos are good they lack one thing and that is content. No one really cares if these channels are faking it. The content they provide is pretty good.
Good vid, just a quick comment on the dirt and rocks used by one of them in his videos, I used to be a scout and we would build camp off the forest etc... we used to make big structures including once, a 10 meter flag pole made out of a regular sized tree, maybe 25-30 centimeter wide, It held in a hole with rocks and dirts but also a copious ammount of large wooden stakes and long compaction of the dirt, sometimes with a hammer or even a Merlin (Tool half sledgehammer/half axe) but to hold a heavy stuctures of this kind of heavy tree trunk, it would require at least 2 support tree trunk arround the same width and with heavy ammount of woodwork to hold it all together and a lot of rope, it is possible, but not with gravels as they use in those videos
When I started watching this video and Primitive Technology was shown I almost got heart attack thinking it will be stated it's fake :D so relieved when it was explained he is actually legit as I believed!
Man I was such a fool for thinking that a lot of effort is put into these videos, but this video explains everything now. It makes so much sense. Big ups to Sunny for conducting an outstanding ounce of research.
I didn’t even know these channels existed until a few days ago when someone posted a similar video of 2 SEA guys building an underground layer and pool on Twitter. Like many of us, I was also in awe at what they’d done but now I’ll take every one of these videos with a grain of salt
Primitive Technology is on one of the best channels out there. If I should choose only five channels to be subscribed to and to watch them - PT would be among them!
I used to dig trenches so that we could drop cable lines underground, so I spent a lot of time shoveling. Watching those videos I couldn't believe they were doing it that fast, it would take days even if the dirt was ideal plus no huge rocks or roots.
I to have done a little digging in my life and can confirm, also while I don't doubt a house can be built like this with primative tech, I don't think it can be done by two guys in less than a hundred days.
I was into this for about three videos and then I got into camping videos. I just like the sounds of nature and fire crackling. Helps me sleep at night. Kinda hard to fake just sitting in nature.
As a civil engineer, my and my professor were watching their vids, and he (old man) was surprised because it took him years to learn and teach us how we should calculator and estimate everything on the construction site and the schedule of each worker and how much time it takes em to finish the project, while these bad boyz finish a project with their own hands, however, to this day i was suspicious, now am relieved.
Speaking from personal experience, calculating nearly anything regarding a construction site is a pointless exercise. Beams, bricks, etc. aren't straight, materials aren't consistent. Some stuff always has to be thrown out, most things will have to be reshaped, bent, or otherwise manipulated so that it fits whatever you're trying to build. Ultimately, the rule ends up being "you just keep going until its done" - both regarding physical labour and resources.
I absolutely love Primitive Technology and have been watching John for years. I am so glad he’s back and getting some much deserved recognition and respect from other community members. It’s easy to see him as isolated because of the nature of his videos and I’m happy people are giving him the much deserved kudos
@UCmnbct5c3W5fMRf2E75Ytrw No. More people thinking differently doesn't change anything, it could still be sarcasm. You don't even know lmao, you're guessing like I am. It's just such an odd statement that it just can't be real. Not to mention he is targeting that to bots. Have you seen those "women live longer because they live boring lives" posts and memes?
@pankak No he isn't. Zharion makes these comments himself, which explains why certain comments don't have his under it, or his reply is late. He does it on only a few youtubers.
I'd never seen a primitive technology video but I've seen plenty of the others. These guys made me feel so lazy and listless as a teenager. These guys made me feel awful about myself sometimes.
I always thought it was a bit suspicious how they could just whip up an underground mansion with a pool in the time it takes for me to get up in the morning
im glad Primitive technology got some recognition as the founder of this genre in this video. I remember finding his stuff back in 2017 while i was in highschool and have enjoyed his content since. He's leagues above any other channel like his
@pvic He isn't the only legit one though and I've seen another channel advance further than he has. Believing the rest are all faker copycats and never watching them prevents the genre from evolving much. Obviously he may have inspired people to do something similar, but that doesn't mean there's no originality.
Primitive Technology is the OG and the only one I will ever bother watching. you can tell he doesnt fake it given the amount of time between videos, the captions being an explanation of what hes doing and why, and the very well done descriptions
For me, Primitive Skills is the only PT copycat that is legit since not only the guy does not construct houses and pools over and over and over again, he is also currently more advanced than John in terms of technology.
The building videos are really compelling, showing people that are like superheroes for getting something really nice done that fast. But if you've even cut down a tree you probably should've had that nagging feeling in the back of your mind. It took literal days and heavy equipment to install one tiny cable to my plot, and the scale was way smaller. Physical world doesn't really work like shown in these vids, but they're still fascinatingly escapist to me.
This honestly makes me really sad and embarrassed that I didn't realize this sooner. I always figured they had more help off-screen, but as someone who has never attempted to build anything like this I really had no gauge of how possible it would be without machinery.
Shouldn't be too embarrassed. They went from believable, to slightly unbelievable, to this is insane, to there is no way to guys did this. This is how everything on the internet works now. Now that you are aware in one sector, you can apply this same understanding to anything you are consuming online. It's all the same. (Even music)
The timescales they claim are the biggest giveaway. Three or four months outside in this part of the world can come with a massive difference in weather conditions. These builds nearly always take place with very similar weather which suggests they take a lot less time than they claim (mainly because of the extra manpower and machinery). You never see one of these builds slipping over in to rainy season?
The timescales they claim are the biggest giveaway. Three or four months outside in this part of the world can come with a massive difference in weather conditions. These builds nearly always take place with very similar weather which suggests they take a lot less time than they claim (mainly because of the extra manpower and machinery). You never see one of these builds slipping over in to rainy season?
Packing rocks at the bottom of posts like that is actually pretty valid. Dont think they were trying to imply it was concrete, but when you pack stones around a post like that it does make it sturdier.
The way of setting foundation at 8:44 is actually done in real life by actual old school jungle builders, although definitely not using bamboo and not with tiny pebble sized rocks, I've actually used the technique, but for fences for a farm only ,and using really hard wood and sizable hard stones, and most importantly, it's not really a great idea in soft, crumbly sandstone ground (like in the fake video), we do that only on hard rocky dirt
I feel really stupid now after you laid the mountain of evidence as to why these are fake. I always just turn my brain off and like to see the progress step by step. I never even thought to think that these were faked. Thanks Sunny for enlightening me on this!
@Suneku Not only they lie about building it "with hands" they also destroyed a forest and left a mess, they left a lot of trash and unused cement bags. So do you still think you can enjoy such thing?@
Well its a form of Entertainment art. I totally respect it for what it is. Anyway a lot of work goes into it and it is fun watching. But good you point attention to the legit guy and inventor of the genre. 🤗💫
I always knew primitive technology was more legit. When i saw those blue pools and big architectures i knew it was BS. This video just make it more correct 👍🏽
I can just imagine what confusion and chaos it must cause researchers hundreds of years in the future when they stumble across these abandoned sites and wonder what they were for 😂
Primitive Technology despite not releasing much anymore, is still inspirational and also insightful. Not just reading how things were made with more primitive things l, but seeing it
There are some content creators that I enjoy seeing every day. The videos are typically not too deep, but entertaining. When Primitive Technology drops a new video, I have notifications turned on to let me know. The only channel I have that for. I will drop whatever I'm doing and enjoy whatever delight he has in store for us that episode.
@Nate From what I remember, researching and making primitive technology is his hobby. The videos started as his way of sharing his hobby with the world. And it just happened to become insanely popular. :P
@Petro Phaga it’s because his projects are real And so they actually take time. You probably watch the fake channels because you have the patience of an amoeba. These projects can’t just be pumped out every week.
not releasing much anymore? he never had. It was and is a pleasure when the message pops up that he released a new video... often months after the last one
I work as a landscaper in Ohio, using a steel spade that is sharp I often have to fight stones and roots in order to edge fresh beds. There is no way these guys are digging trenches in the woods with sticks.
i used to watch primitive technology, i read a little about how he knew the techniques, he didn't claim to know how one group of people from a particular place and time did everything, his techniques were mixes and matches, i believe he may have added what seemed correct to him when there were gaps in what he could did up in his research
I actually think they’re genius. It’s just a show to suspend disbelief. Some of these channels’ constructions are pretty wild. Too bad they abandon them after filming, some look much better than my house.
I always figured Mr. Primitive Technology was legit. You literally see him doing everything by hand. Its also much more interesting to me to see actual survival style structures being built than these crazy pools and water slide nonsense
He was the OG when it came to this kind of stuff. Anyone who wants to support him should buy his book, I have a copy. I've never seen any reason to believe that anything he did was faked because like you said, you literally see him doing everything by hand. And what he does is actually realistic and practical. He's not making underground palaces with swimming pools and jacuzzis, using nothing but a piece of bamboo and wet sand.
Nicely done sir, well done. It’s surprising that I never thought of that because, I would have done everything by hand and, by myself I guess your friend from “Primitive Technology”, is a true soldier… I sincerely hope you guys reconnect because, I know I Miss my Homies… K-9 0Ut…
I like Primitive Skills's chanel. That guy doesnt come across as fake either and he never builds anything cheesy. Highly recommend along with Primitive Technology.
There was one not too long ago that was legit, he used to live stream his progress. To test whether it was recorded and then being broadcast "live", I asked him how he could stream from the jungle. He picked up his phone, read my comment out loud replied he had 4G and then showed his battery set up connecting his phone and laptop as well as microphone. He also said he wasn't in the jungle but on private land behind his home. His builds were very similar to the OG, not some ridiculous water park.
Well said, Thanks SunnyV2.
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I cannot describe how happy I am to know that the only primitive channel (PT) I'm watching is legit. There's something to this guy I've always highly respected, and now even more.
Imagine caring so much…….the videos are for entertainment if you don’t like it don’t watch
@Tyler Cecil which one of those scammer channels belongs to you?
Where exactly is the proof that its legit?
I love the way all their digging is in conveniently soft clay or crumbly sandstone…you can only do this in a very few limited locations.
that was my first thought when I first saw these. I hadn't realized they were staged, but I did think, "it's nice they have such good earth to work with!" You certainly can't do that everywhere.
Well, that's dependent on region, and in most places they will have deep layers of dirt and soil, however it usually is not soft and full of rocks and stuff. Although clay dirt is not as rare as you might think, but again its full of rocks.
@RCLefty027LOL yeah it was crazy. You could never leave mcgyver with anything, not even a single crumb. Otherwise he’ll find some way to engineer it into some crazy machine or device haha
Primitive Tech is the only one I ever watch, as a child I used to try to build tiny houses, and made tools out of whatever I could. Wanted to learn how to live off the land only so it interests me in a few ways.
I never watch primitive tech when i was a kid but when i was look at his channel it's kinda amazing
Primitive Tech lol 😂
I grew up hacking down trees and building forts in the Amazon rainforest with my friends as a young teen. When I saw these videos my first initial reaction was "huh, we couldn't have dug 3 square inches without hitting roots the size of your arm"
@Wuhan Clan Thing is, the people from the fake primitive constructions videos always dig in areas surrounded by trees. You forgot the context of the comment.
Even when they are not digging anywhere near trees or shrubbery or anything of the like? What, there are giant arm sized roots all over the place under the ground? Cmon
In my area, you can dig easily... as long as you dig through 3-10cm of tough clay layer that is about 30cm under the soil.
@Moon Melon He said it's private land leased for videos, then abandoned.
John’s is the first channel I started watching (and the only one I follow). Primitive Technology doesn’t fall into the realm of the ridiculous. John meticulously explains every step with captions (it took me a couple of years to find that out 😌) and there’s reasoning behind everything. I won’t lie, I watch some of the other videos for comedic purposes because it is so irrational it becomes funny.
Having dug a fairly decent amount of holes by hand on my channel, I knew something was up with those guys! This is such a great video exposing those channels. Thanks for taking the time to make it. But more so for giving John (OG Primitive Technology) the exposure he deserves. He was so ahead of the trends way back when he started. His authenticity and uniqueness had me glued to his channel. When these other channels popped up not long after, I could tell something wasn’t right. They could have at least not dressed EXACTLY like OG Primitive Tech. With the shorts etc, I also noticed last year that all these channels had their KZclip accounts set to “United States”, which was strange. Either way, I hope that people who watch this video go straight over to OG Primitive Technology and give him a sub and watch all his videos. He was (and still is) the best no-talk Primitive Channel out there.
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@Maple Leaf i agree it depends on thebwork but I've had to do the work they did for 7 years. You can eat as much as you want but 10-12 hours of work from sunrise to sunset 5-7 days a weeks takes up all that food intake. It leaves you slim but muscular and im not talking about gym bodies either. Go look at pictures of slaves and you'll see the ripped i'm talking about. These guys on the other hand have no muscles going through on their hits. 1 hour of digging by hand, no breaks, your muscles would be showing and these guys claim to do it all day for months on end and been doing it for about 3 years, they should be ripped
@Tarik M. Depends on the work, stuff like this is endurance and their food intake is not conducive to building bulky muscles. Lean is what the body type would be for this endurance type work make. Especially with their ethnicity and region (food) they would be small lean things, but they can work hard and forever.
@Maple Leaf i didnt say gym ripped but anyone that has had to do ranch work knows what im talking about. Theres a difference.
@Filipe Lobo I became a pro ground plate digger (back when I was just an apprentice electrician) lots of trees n rocks where I live so I would always set up with a shovel, hammer drill with a big long bit and a sawzall. The hammer drill, I just shove into the ground and stir it a bit, this loosens up the ground so much. Sawzall for any root... Easy n fast
Another concern that wasn't addressed is that once those holes and pools are left abandoned, they become a death trap for animals. Building them on an industrial scale just to later abandon them should be treated like an environmental crime
@Scott you don't seem to understand the meaning of the concept "Karen"
ok karen.
@clipclop15 There are a few cases where abandoned swimming pools will exist in the middle of the woods. Depending on where you‘re at, you could fall into a cold algae pool.
the Destruction of Land should be Concerning, the country’s Department of Environment and Natural Resources should stop these people!
@osasunaitor I love all these comments that assume the laws for building in Cambodia, Indonesia or wherever these people are from are the same as here in the USA. And I also love the thinking that people in the USA who live way out owning a bunch of land would really care about regulations. They live way out there to avoid dealing with regulations!
I honestly don't get why they feel they need to decieve people. I watched a construction company's hour long timelapse of them completely remodeling someone's backyard and creating an amazing pool, deck & landscaping with the latest tools and tech avaliable and it was as riveting as watching two half naked dude (pretend to) build a two story pool using rocks and sticks.
the Destruction of Land should be Concerning, the country’s Department of Environment and Natural Resources should stop these people!
Classic case of copycat seeing end result and reaction and totally missing the point.
Because they miss the point of John's videos, which are a DIY instructional on how to live in a forest or jungle and create bricks, cement, furnaces and huts from the available materials in the area.
But its funny.
Primitive Skills is one of my favorite creators on youtube. Real or not, definitely entertaining
I am only a bit vary on the amount and methods of his iron production, but his woodworking skills especially in the newer videos are impressive to say the least.
And now that KZclip has taken dislikes away, it is even harder to spot fake channels. While this primitive building is not really all that detrimental to daily use, a lot of repair/restoration channels are fake, which might actually hurt some people, if they attempt to do or follow alongside the videos for their items that need repair/restoration.
@Take America Back From Isяael definitely not
BTW you can DL an APP to see the dis#ik# butt#n again
Yep took them away to protect ''president'' Brandon's YT channel
'Return youtube dislike' is chrome extension that lets you see dislikes.
I LOVE this video. There was always something that irked me about a lot of those "primitive" channels and I could never quite put my finger on exactly what it was, but this fully confirms and validates those feelings I was having lol
@The Decafe Too strong an emotion for ya? ;)
I love ❤️ lol 😂
Hey SunnyV2, i can only say... THANK YOU. We are survival-ish content creators here in Brazil and we often have to deal with questions and critics from people saying things like "you guys are weak, i've seen many videos from other channels that are faster and do incredible things in the jungle".
This kind of videos create a fake ideia that survival can be easy and you can "prosper" in the jungle, wich cant be more far from the truth. Anyway, thanks for the content and explanation! Greetings!
@Guts Yeah, the OG built things like blast furnaces for ore processing, and hearths for cooking and staying warm/alive. The copycats built nonsense like extravagant swimming pools of stagnant water in the jungle. Our dude was experimenting with recreating and preserving essential technologies that were pivotal for our species, and these other dipshits were doing interior decorating.
They also never actually make anything practical on those channels. I don't think I would be concerned about building a swimming pool if I was stranded in the amazon.
Which*
quando que vai sair um churras selvagem na cabana? Kkkkkkk agora em zueira, quero parabenizar vcs com o sucesso que foi o projeto da cabana.
Thank god primitive technology is legit. I love that channel and I’ve only ever watched his primitive building videos
@Peter Maddison I just reported all the fake ones as I see them. And all their channels too. And it's nothing personal. I do this quality control for all videos recommended to me, to train the algorithm so it gives mentally healthier videos, and just doing a small part for the world as well getting rid of rubbish scams
I watched him start a fire with the fire drill. The camera kept watching his work and kept it all in the sight of the viewer until he had flame. The others, even some survival skill videos in the US cut in the middle and magically a fire appears. I don't watch that channel again when that happens. I enjoy primitive Technology videos and never detect any fakery.
Not me having an anxiety spike before this episode began. "No.... Not him. Please let there be some honesty left on the internet."
I tell you, the sigh of relief I let out....
Thank the channel man
The structures are amazing. But I did wonder about the ground they were digging in. It's seemed so easy to move huge amounts of dirt and yet the walls stay up. But I never though about it any further.
@Avenger A cubic yard of clay weighs about 2300 lbs. So now estimate how many cubic yards they excavate and finish the math. To start you out, one build involved a shallow swimming pool. Let's call that 1 yard deep and 5 yards by 3 yards in area. So 15 cubic yards x 2300 lbs = 34,500 total lbs (17.25 tons).
yeah. that's what always made me call bs. the digging is one thing but to actually remove the dirt as well would require just as much effort if not more the further down you dig. lol. it just became silly after a certain point. still kinda relaxing though. but they definitely overreached for clicks.
Furthermore, they dig a huge hole, and where is all the dirt? Answer: payloader took it away.
As these "builds" have become more and more grandiose, the sheer amount of dirt/rocks/soil/clay that must be excavated must be staggering! We're talking about many many cubic yards! But it's not so staggering if you've got use of even a smaller backhoe or skid steer.
Bottom line, these structures are less amazing when constructed by a full crew of professionals using modern equipment.
i agree
Hey man, I’m a Ukrainian scout that attended camp for a month. The one with the putting poles up with rocks, mud, and dirt is actually valid, as we managed to solidly place a 20ft tall log flag pole up with rocks and dirt. The cementing technique is kinda valid, although we used mud/clay mixed with water and leaves to create surprisingly strong barriers when mixed with sticks in the wall. We also created a massive maze gate that was like 15 feet tall, without modern technology obviously 💀
The difference between your cement technique, and the one shown in the video is the vegetation. The leaves (And I'm also assuming grass. You can do it without grass, but your end result is much stronger with something like grass, or any other kind of long thin vegetation.) you used are actually essential.This technique is also seen in Medieval Europe and isn't actually cement. It's called Wattle and Dab. It was among the most common building material for structures amongst those who were not wealthy. Although they also typically used herbivore feces. ONLY Herbivore feces. PLEASE don't use carnivore, or omnivore feces, or you will absolutely regret it. Haha
I mean the charm of watching Primitive Technology's original and current videos is seeing the power of a single human dedicated to forging simple solutions known by our ancestors that can keep you alive. All these underground swimming pools and mansions are insane and tacky af. And always have no drainage so are doomed to become algae swamps if they were even real
@Wuhan Clan yeah dude. I'm a paid troll for Primitive Technology. While he goes out bush to make his videos he pays thousands of accounts to go and promote him on yt comments. That's how a simple peasant makes it to big kulak status
@Wuhan Clan Because it is great.
huh? Smfh, yall are really hard-up on promoting this Primitive Technology sht huh?
@The Decafe what are you saying?
That's one thing I really like about Primitive Technology. It just looks like someone who does something in his normal life, then going out into the woods and trying to replicate what could've been done way back when. While a lot of skill goes into that, you see he's not doing that every day all day.
I think people's first mistake was believing those builds were legitimate in the first place. As long as the videos generate views, they're happy. They don't seem too concerned with being genuinely primitive/handmade.
With that being said, the builds themselves are pretty impressive and do require a lot of talent and craftsmanship to make. John of the original PT of course is a mastermind, and it adds a whole new layer of grandeur for that reason, but people still get entertainment out of watching the "fake" ones too.
Thank you!!
@user-ld8ju6vs5j Thank you. All these comments whining like there's anything new under the sun. Just annoying!
@M B quote exactly what you disagree with him about...?
Love that he mentioned PT as legitimate multiple times in the video, just shows how legit his content are.
"just shows how legit his content are."
Grammar much?
Also, I'm pretty sure vietnamese are more culturally entitled since they have been building mud huts in the jungle for millenia, while the single 'murican guy not even when his ancestors came to USA had that style
@Nemo U you mean the thing your doing right now. which of those fake "primitives" are you from? 😂
More like "just shows how much lobbying is in this video paid for by the other channel"
I can tell you one immediate thing that invalidates almost all underground buildings: I live in Minnesota. We have a long stretch of yard along our street, so most of the snow gets dumped there. We are fine with this because we like building forts out of the snow. What I found out very quickly, is that even with a shovel, not even a stick, it takes a long time and lots of effort. I’m 13 and it takes me a full hour and a half to dig a “cave” big enough to fit myself in, and that is when I only have to move the snow a few feet. These guys are digging penthouses underground, which should take a few months at least, not to mention erosion.
@Nemo U its more about how easy it is to dig. Snow is much lighter than dirt.
There is now snow in southeast asia (other than very high peaks which this is not)
You express yourself in writing pretty well for 13. Good job!
@Espeon Mistress It's far simpler. If the soil is hard enough to survive erosion for 100 days (that's the claimed build time in some of those videos), then it's also hard to excavate.
@Espeon Mistress In my geographical region soil type and snow are not related in the slightest.
Interesting - Primitive Technology is the only channel I've ever watched for these building videos. i remember starting to watch some videos from other channels and I've always backed out within a minute or two, just subconsciously I knew something wasn't right but this is a great video detailing exactly what I didn't notice but my brain did.
I always wondered about the lack of roots in de ground.
Also : can we all bump up primitive technology just for the heck of it? That dude really seems to be the real deal without wanting to burn down others. Which is admirable since the fakers probably take away the spotlight from him.
*I am a particle physicist, engineer and general craftsman in the construction trades; I didn't need to question the validity of these channels lol.*
My brother is also very high up in film and television production making it even more obvious to me.
*A dozen people or more are building these structures and just as likely even using hand power tools.*
Great work, it always seemed like too much of a massive money grab for them to all be legitimate - a bit like the fake "animal rescue" trend
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the “animal rescue” trend is disgusting
@Jerry Oak did you live in a cave till now? KZclip has monetization like every major social
Not sure who was grifted by these guys but the scale of their underground swimming pools and stuff are insane and I don't think anyone really bought that it was two guys making this. If you've ever seen Primitive Technology's channel, you can tell the difference.
Every time I commented on these videos people called me a hater and said I was jealous lol. This is satisfying verification for sure. As a construction worker I knew there was no way.
Sounds like the people who keep drooling over Primitive Tech on this vid's thread... ooooh, if anyone says any video is real other than Primitive Tech then it hurts their feewings.
Every time lol 😂
I am so thankful for this video! 💖
I myself have a mid range talent of primitive technology. Not near the levels of the "Primitive technology" channel. But I very much enjoyed his videos.
From the first video of these fakers I was sceptical. They made me for a moment feel like I was actually trash at my bush work.
I had a feeling it was fake, but never cared to watch them enough to know... well, thank you sir. Now I know.
I have been subscribed to the original "Primitive technology" channel for quite some years now. His work deserves more credit that these people clearoy steal. Can only hope more people know or see this video.
As someone who works outside for a living, I've been saying this for years. Digging a hole is hard. Cutting lumber is hard. Digging a cave and building a cabin inside in the span of a week without power tools is superhuman. The builds are impressive...but it's the lying that curdle my milk.
If the videos were a whole team of people coordinating to make these structures that would honestly be way cooler than just the 2 guys, it more accurately simulates what it might actually be like if they were in primitive times. minus the machine equipment of course lol
I thought it was pretty obvious they weren't actually doing this by hand. Anybody that's ever tried to dig a hole deeper than a few feet would know what a nightmare this would be without machines
I asked my grandpa why all the houses built pre-1940 only had five foot high basements. He told me that if you were digging a basement with a shovel, you wouldn’t want to dig out another 600 square feet of earth another foot down.
Veteran here! Fuck yes it’s hard. Any vet who has ever been out in the field knows. Fun to watch though.
@ForgiveZharion Stop spamming,and please stop talking to urself
I caught onto this pretty early. I am a builder myself, both modern and primitive, I have a pretty good idea of what is possible and what is not.
I loved making tiny huts in forests when I was younger. They more looked like teepees tents. (I mean like logs resting against each other in that shape.) Then having battles with friends and family with like sticks as swords and that.
I was a fan of Primitive Technology before he was well known (less than 100k), and yes I’ll brag about it unnecessarily because..well..that guy is just awesome lol. It makes me mad people stole his genre but..without actually doing the work.
Primitive Technology is great, been watching him for years. Glad too see he’s legit.
I'm just relieved that primitive technologies is legit. I've always loved his videos and I've never cared for any of his copycats.
Yeah, I never watched more than a few seconds of those Primitive Technology copycat channels before I realised the fakery - I watch all of John's though... Even digging a 6-foot fox hole with a small shovel is hard enough (just ask any soldier). Faking it just for money is one thing but the environmental damage as you point out is the thing that annoys me most. Hopefully, this video will help to spread the word and the popularity will fade out until it's not commercially viable anymore. Cheers :)
@ForgiveZharion 🎪
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G'day Mark! I love your content!
I was hooked for awhile watching some of those fake primitive tech vids and had a ton of similiar questions about them being legit. Then I watched a guy who legit built a tunnel from his detached garage to his house and the engineering feat it took for him to do the project. He meticulously video'd every step of the tunnel and it was clear the labour and effort he put in - not to mention the long duration. And when I realized the amount of shoring and support structure he had to design and put in to keep the tunnel from collapsing, all I could think of was the fakery of the primitive technology builds.
I was one of the first subscribers of primitive technology and knew straight away that he is legit, since than I never watched any other. Also the delay of putting a new video on his channel shows that it's legit
I was lol 😂
I am glad I came across this video as it "cements" the doubts I always had after seeing some of the end results, specially in the middle of nowhere.
I remember seeing one of these that was like a little underground pool with rest/sleep benches and candle shelves and my first thought was "Well they're full of shot and didn't do that by hand. Looks cool though, I'd put something like that in if I could afford a decent amount of land"
I remember lol 😂
I have watched hours of these video... and I have always wondered how they can manage to do this. It always seems to be too complex for 2 guys doing something like that. In the back of my head I knew it was only fun to watch and nothing more
I always found it suspicious that a single person was able to complete fifty-two 100-day projects in a year.
Math not even once. I'm tired of all those south asian spamming channels invading restoriarion videos, primitive videos, life hacks videos. It's like they see a trend and they make a completely over the top, unrealistic copy of it.
The maff no goud
@Dukjin Im ikr, you telling me that guy needs a full day to build only 3 swimming pools? anything below 50 per day sounds like a skill issue to me
You obviously have never had a side hustle.
Up your grindset
i got suspicious of them after watching my second video because i saw how close together these videos were. the first one i thought that it was cool that a couple of guys were willing to go so far to make something so interesting but once the illusion is shattered you cant unsee it
I’ve used rocks to back fill post holes, key is to make the holes a little wider and deeper then standard. Works well and provides drainage around the post. 80% cheaper
I've been watching Primitive Technology after reading a book called 'How to Start a Civilization" which is about how the fundamental technologies such as making charcoal, brewing, and many others were discovered. But I've never cared to read his description. I hope more people get to know of his work and gets paid for the labour he puts in. (Even if that's not his intention behind creating the channel)
One correction/note, tamped gravel is a legit way to secure a post in a hole, it kinda locks together to the point where the post is held about as well as concrete. It's definitely more work than just halfassedly throwing some rocks in a hole with a post, however.
Wow, I pretty much forgot about Primitive Technology. Used to watch him in maybe 2016 or 2017. Middle school me loved watching those. Bouta take a nostalgia trip.
As someone with 10 years of construction experience, the funniest part of faking this is that they could just be honest about how they're building it and it'd still be impressive.
Yeah, but then people wouldn't watch it. What made these videos enjoyable was the satisfaction of them doing everything "primitively" and still managing to create something amazing. Doing everything with modern machinery would make this more like walking to a nearby construction site and watching that. It's not as interesting and they knew that.
That's why they lied.
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Great video, thank you for confirming what I was thiniking for long time. I am watching John Plant´s videos since begining and they always amazed me. Therefore I was so angry when I saw these fake ones in suggestions.They were too perfect and missing that magic which John was able to do.
How many subscribers do the landscaping company have? Yeah thats why.
Great 👍 video, lol 😂
I didn't realize people thought these were real. It's clearly impossible to build this stuff by hand in a reasonable amount of time.
Man How this guy can expose people and tell us pure truth is amazing that he puts hours into reasearching (subbed)
Primative technology seems pretty legit and like a genuinely cool guy. This "i built a shopping mall with my bare hands in 3 hours" stuff, not so much
I don’t care if they are fake or not it’s just so satisfying to watch
Man, I'm glad primitive technology is legit, he was the first channel I ever watched, and I loved it. I hated all the copycat channels that followed. I liked the channels that focus on the primitive methods, it's interesting to see how things like Bricks, and Blacksmithing were done to make the tools we now use today. It makes you appreciate how hard work it was back then for something so simple
As an archaeologist I can confirm, with a modern sharpened shovel, it would be freaking hell to dig that xD
@ENWC but still some copy cats will get away with it and i hate it
While John's videos are good they lack one thing and that is content. No one really cares if these channels are faking it. The content they provide is pretty good.
The thing that always stood out for me is that as they dig, they stay mostly clean
Good vid, just a quick comment on the dirt and rocks used by one of them in his videos,
I used to be a scout and we would build camp off the forest etc... we used to make big structures including once, a 10 meter flag pole made out of a regular sized tree, maybe 25-30 centimeter wide, It held in a hole with rocks and dirts but also a copious ammount of large wooden stakes and long compaction of the dirt, sometimes with a hammer or even a Merlin (Tool half sledgehammer/half axe) but to hold a heavy stuctures of this kind of heavy tree trunk, it would require at least 2 support tree trunk arround the same width and with heavy ammount of woodwork to hold it all together and a lot of rope, it is possible, but not with gravels as they use in those videos
When I started watching this video and Primitive Technology was shown I almost got heart attack thinking it will be stated it's fake :D so relieved when it was explained he is actually legit as I believed!
The best part of this video is, that there is no long-winded jabbering. Straight to the point, fact by fact and done. Great.
The best lol 😂
Mr. Primitive said I was too lazy to narrate, after he just built an entire structure with his hands 😂
@chicken sandwich Hahaha if you only knew
@Titaiãoyour profile picture says so much about you. They say don't judge a book by its cover, but this cover has the entire novel written out on it
@Titaião Not a Soviet type of man and woman though. Both did work.
@Master of Reality you just describe man and woman, respectively
I understand him. Some can work while others can only talk.
Man I was such a fool for thinking that a lot of effort is put into these videos, but this video explains everything now. It makes so much sense. Big ups to Sunny for conducting an outstanding ounce of research.
They got me too man.
I didn’t even know these channels existed until a few days ago when someone posted a similar video of 2 SEA guys building an underground layer and pool on Twitter. Like many of us, I was also in awe at what they’d done but now I’ll take every one of these videos with a grain of salt
A lot of fake content like this on youtube, including fake restorations which rake in millions of views
I'm glad for this video.I was getting suspicious on how two people could create these homes with sticks.
Primitive Technology is on one of the best channels out there. If I should choose only five channels to be subscribed to and to watch them - PT would be among them!
I used to dig trenches so that we could drop cable lines underground, so I spent a lot of time shoveling. Watching those videos I couldn't believe they were doing it that fast, it would take days even if the dirt was ideal plus no huge rocks or roots.
I to have done a little digging in my life and can confirm, also while I don't doubt a house can be built like this with primative tech, I don't think it can be done by two guys in less than a hundred days.
I was into this for about three videos and then I got into camping videos. I just like the sounds of nature and fire crackling. Helps me sleep at night. Kinda hard to fake just sitting in nature.
As a civil engineer, my and my professor were watching their vids, and he (old man) was surprised because it took him years to learn and teach us how we should calculator and estimate everything on the construction site and the schedule of each worker and how much time it takes em to finish the project, while these bad boyz finish a project with their own hands, however, to this day i was suspicious, now am relieved.
Speaking from personal experience, calculating nearly anything regarding a construction site is a pointless exercise. Beams, bricks, etc. aren't straight, materials aren't consistent. Some stuff always has to be thrown out, most things will have to be reshaped, bent, or otherwise manipulated so that it fits whatever you're trying to build.
Ultimately, the rule ends up being "you just keep going until its done" - both regarding physical labour and resources.
I absolutely love Primitive Technology and have been watching John for years. I am so glad he’s back and getting some much deserved recognition and respect from other community members. It’s easy to see him as isolated because of the nature of his videos and I’m happy people are giving him the much deserved kudos
@UCmnbct5c3W5fMRf2E75Ytrw No. More people thinking differently doesn't change anything, it could still be sarcasm.
You don't even know lmao, you're guessing like I am. It's just such an odd statement that it just can't be real.
Not to mention he is targeting that to bots. Have you seen those "women live longer because they live boring lives" posts and memes?
KZclip is so garbage with comments, all these damn bots spammed & now deleting stuff with an http error, eh whatever
@pankak No he isn't. Zharion makes these comments himself, which explains why certain comments don't have his under it, or his reply is late. He does it on only a few youtubers.
As a homeless veteran who was been building underground shelters for decades, I should take charge of this.
I'd never seen a primitive technology video but I've seen plenty of the others. These guys made me feel so lazy and listless as a teenager. These guys made me feel awful about myself sometimes.
This was pretty obvious to begin with but it’s just so satisfying to watch
I always thought it was a bit suspicious how they could just whip up an underground mansion with a pool in the time it takes for me to get up in the morning
They should have Just been honest, because even if it wasn’t by hand, the fact they constructed the builds is still really cool
im glad Primitive technology got some recognition as the founder of this genre in this video. I remember finding his stuff back in 2017 while i was in highschool and have enjoyed his content since. He's leagues above any other channel like his
@pvic He isn't the only legit one though and I've seen another channel advance further than he has. Believing the rest are all faker copycats and never watching them prevents the genre from evolving much.
Obviously he may have inspired people to do something similar, but that doesn't mean there's no originality.
Primitive Technology is the OG and the only one I will ever bother watching. you can tell he doesnt fake it given the amount of time between videos, the captions being an explanation of what hes doing and why, and the very well done descriptions
@Derek Hunter I see you
@Hornet F18 😂
For me, Primitive Skills is the only PT copycat that is legit since not only the guy does not construct houses and pools over and over and over again, he is also currently more advanced than John in terms of technology.
For me, lol 😂
I doubted this on the first place. Everything is so beautifully and perfectly made. Impossible by one man....
The building videos are really compelling, showing people that are like superheroes for getting something really nice done that fast. But if you've even cut down a tree you probably should've had that nagging feeling in the back of your mind. It took literal days and heavy equipment to install one tiny cable to my plot, and the scale was way smaller. Physical world doesn't really work like shown in these vids, but they're still fascinatingly escapist to me.
I really dont care if they're fake or not. It still sounds and looks satisfying to me
Whatever it is, still the videos come out very well and also a lot of work is involved
This honestly makes me really sad and embarrassed that I didn't realize this sooner. I always figured they had more help off-screen, but as someone who has never attempted to build anything like this I really had no gauge of how possible it would be without machinery.
Shouldn't be too embarrassed. They went from believable, to slightly unbelievable, to this is insane, to there is no way to guys did this. This is how everything on the internet works now. Now that you are aware in one sector, you can apply this same understanding to anything you are consuming online. It's all the same. (Even music)
The timescales they claim are the biggest giveaway. Three or four months outside in this part of the world can come with a massive difference in weather conditions. These builds nearly always take place with very similar weather which suggests they take a lot less time than they claim (mainly because of the extra manpower and machinery). You never see one of these builds slipping over in to rainy season?
The timescales they claim are the biggest giveaway. Three or four months outside in this part of the world can come with a massive difference in weather conditions. These builds nearly always take place with very similar weather which suggests they take a lot less time than they claim (mainly because of the extra manpower and machinery). You never see one of these builds slipping over in to rainy season?
This is why you shouldn't blindly believe everything on the internet
it's still really satisfying to watch at 3 am
Packing rocks at the bottom of posts like that is actually pretty valid. Dont think they were trying to imply it was concrete, but when you pack stones around a post like that it does make it sturdier.
i thought it was a little weird how they do it so good, so i thought they might be fake, but this confirms it
Honestly never understood why they lied, they could have just branded this as what it was and still have done well.
The way of setting foundation at 8:44 is actually done in real life by actual old school jungle builders, although definitely not using bamboo and not with tiny pebble sized rocks, I've actually used the technique, but for fences for a farm only ,and using really hard wood and sizable hard stones, and most importantly, it's not really a great idea in soft, crumbly sandstone ground (like in the fake video), we do that only on hard rocky dirt
I feel really stupid now after you laid the mountain of evidence as to why these are fake. I always just turn my brain off and like to see the progress step by step. I never even thought to think that these were faked. Thanks Sunny for enlightening me on this!
Ong I thought this shit was real
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@Dust animals can fall in ,get trapped and die. The environmental toll it takes too, is extremely IMMORAL!!
Nothing bad about that, I worked in contruction for ages and didn't realise they were fake
@Dust they left a lot of trash and ruined part of the forest and didn't clean up.
So yes its immoral
@Suneku Not only they lie about building it "with hands" they also destroyed a forest and left a mess, they left a lot of trash and unused cement bags.
So do you still think you can enjoy such thing?@
It's not about what's real or not, it's about what people like to watch
Primitive technology is legit. 100%. No doubt. He is the real MVP and an awesome dude.
Well its a form of Entertainment art. I totally respect it for what it is. Anyway a lot of work goes into it and it is fun watching.
But good you point attention to the legit guy and inventor of the genre. 🤗💫
I always knew primitive technology was more legit. When i saw those blue pools and big architectures i knew it was BS. This video just make it more correct 👍🏽
I can just imagine what confusion and chaos it must cause researchers hundreds of years in the future when they stumble across these abandoned sites and wonder what they were for 😂
Primitive Technology despite not releasing much anymore, is still inspirational and also insightful. Not just reading how things were made with more primitive things l, but seeing it
@Jesus loves you shush
There are some content creators that I enjoy seeing every day. The videos are typically not too deep, but entertaining.
When Primitive Technology drops a new video, I have notifications turned on to let me know. The only channel I have that for. I will drop whatever I'm doing and enjoy whatever delight he has in store for us that episode.
@Nate From what I remember, researching and making primitive technology is his hobby. The videos started as his way of sharing his hobby with the world. And it just happened to become insanely popular. :P
@Petro Phaga it’s because his projects are real And so they actually take time. You probably watch the fake channels because you have the patience of an amoeba. These projects can’t just be pumped out every week.
not releasing much anymore? he never had. It was and is a pleasure when the message pops up that he released a new video... often months after the last one
Primitive Technology is so wholesome
I work as a landscaper in Ohio, using a steel spade that is sharp I often have to fight stones and roots in order to edge fresh beds. There is no way these guys are digging trenches in the woods with sticks.
i used to watch primitive technology, i read a little about how he knew the techniques, he didn't claim to know how one group of people from a particular place and time did everything, his techniques were mixes and matches, i believe he may have added what seemed correct to him when there were gaps in what he could did up in his research
Imagine walking out to go fishing with your son on your land and seeing a giant excavator and a camera man tearing apart your land
I actually think they’re genius. It’s just a show to suspend disbelief. Some of these channels’ constructions are pretty wild. Too bad they abandon them after filming, some look much better than my house.
I always figured Mr. Primitive Technology was legit. You literally see him doing everything by hand. Its also much more interesting to me to see actual survival style structures being built than these crazy pools and water slide nonsense
@ScottCantDance Yeah idk what that guy is on, John is the literal reason bushcraft is so popular here.
He was the OG when it came to this kind of stuff. Anyone who wants to support him should buy his book, I have a copy.
I've never seen any reason to believe that anything he did was faked because like you said, you literally see him doing everything by hand.
And what he does is actually realistic and practical. He's not making underground palaces with swimming pools and jacuzzis, using nothing but a piece of bamboo and wet sand.
@idk anymore Also the dirty standing water from said pool would become a mosquito magnet
@Moh Ridwan Widiyana In what video have you seen a clean cut? I'm not sure you're thinking of the same KZclip channel, but maybe I'm wrong.
Nicely done sir, well done. It’s surprising that I never thought of that because, I would have done everything by hand and, by myself I guess your friend from “Primitive Technology”, is a true soldier… I sincerely hope you guys reconnect because, I know I Miss my Homies… K-9 0Ut…
I like Primitive Skills's chanel. That guy doesnt come across as fake either and he never builds anything cheesy. Highly recommend along with Primitive Technology.
@Brandon DeAlmeida yep he's more realistic, no crazy pools and mud houses, just true survival tech
Same, I’ve been watching his stuff in order and it seems legitimate enough to me. I love his videos
He's my favorite, I only watch him
There was one not too long ago that was legit, he used to live stream his progress. To test whether it was recorded and then being broadcast "live", I asked him how he could stream from the jungle. He picked up his phone, read my comment out loud replied he had 4G and then showed his battery set up connecting his phone and laptop as well as microphone. He also said he wasn't in the jungle but on private land behind his home. His builds were very similar to the OG, not some ridiculous water park.