Hey Paul, this is Aaron (lunch @ Taco Bravo in Willits a few years ago). I thought I'd let you know I started the Stanford PA program 2 months ago. I love to see your continued enthusiasm for the profession.
Hi Paul, Amazing video. Very informative, I think I found my calling in life. The one thing you didn't mention, though, was the time, on average, it takes to get a job after graduation. Can you please share this statistic? Thanks Paul.
I see lots of gender gap questions and I would like to point out that the field isn't sexist it actually has a lot to do with decisions couples consciously make, for instance more couples choose to live where the husband finds the best job, more couples choose to have a new mother take time off from work after having a baby and many couples choose to have the mother cut back on her hours so she can be there more for her kids. so like most fields you find men accumulating more experience in a shorter time as well as on average working more hours a week. Every couple who wants to bring kids into the world has their own priorities and often times a women's earning potential is sacrificed to support their family and that's one of life's big tradeoffs that comes down to a personal decision
Yes it is SEXIST. When the job's salary goes higher when males are more. What you have said is barely anything. In these times, women work the same hours in the same job, there are nannies also.
In order to be in PA school what would you recommend getting your undergraduate degree in? Do you think it would be a good idea to get your degree in biology or nursing.
Thank you so much for this video! I am actually studying at UC Davis right now as an undergrad and looking into PA school? What is the best way to get in touch with PA's to shadow?
We have several articles on shadowing, including how to find docs and PAs to shadow on our website, www.mypatraining.com. Just pull down the main page side bar to "Topics" and click physician assistant shadowing.
Glad I found this vid so I can find the website. Applied last year before my bachelor degree was finished.. got one interview. Applying this year with my bachelor degree finished, 2.5 years of home health care and now 4 months as a CNA at a nursing home. Hoping to get in.
Im majoring in chemistry as an undergrad. do you think that is a good major for PA? . Im interested in this career and also want to know wether you would ever consider going to med school ? thank you
Dorthy Savage tbh for pa major isn't a huge deal as long as you meet the requirements for the pa school you want to attend. A science related major is good bc it'll give you a base on what you'll learn in the future. Also it's a great tip to do a minor and differentiate yourself from everyone else.
I'm only 16 right now but after high school I want to go to school to become a PA but do you think I will regret becoming a MD. My main concern is will I live comfortably on a PA salary? If you could respond it would be greatly appreciated.
You don't need to become a PA to make a decent living. There's so many professions out there that pay good money. I became a PA and only practiced 2 years and then actually went back to school, because I found a new passion. Don't get me wrong I loved the challenge of working with patients and medical staff, learned a lot, took a lot of verbal abuse.... from patients, family members and coworkers. However in the end I decided to move into starting my own business, after I went back to school after my time as a PA. You have to have the passion for helping people if you go into any profession in the medical field. I think too many people get into the medical field just for the money, and not giving a damn about people's feelings. It was easy for me to spot these fake medical professionals and that's a huge reason why I followed a different dream that became a reality in the end. Go with what your heart says and not where they money is at.
DO NOT become a teacher! Both of my parents are teachers and they get really stressed out. They always have to bring their work home (grading), and they have to deal with whiney kids all day. Yes, they get the summer off, but then they have to budget themselves. I highly recommend not becoming a teacher.
PUR3 Khaoss its perspective, i mean, i dont think anyone looks down on teachers at all, so i would have to say it definitely is beyond comfortable living lol
Hey paul, Do you know if there is a market for traveling PAs? Both in the US n internationally. Also what do you think there will be a market for pediatric PA off any specialty? I would love tho work w.kids. thanks! And love your site!! -Jasmine Pre-PA
There is, a market for travelling PAs, actually. They're called Locum Tenens PAs. We have an article on Locum work at www.mypatraining.com. Just enter locum in the google search bar./
Haha Paul you forgot to insert the graphics! Great video though, thanks so much for sharing. I've been following your site for a while and I love the info you're providing for prospective PAs
Get very clear on what the schools that interest you are looking for in terms of health care experience. Then go out there and get that experience. Then write an essay that shows what you have to offer from your previous experiences - you have a lot more than the 20-somethings, but you need to help them see it.
Fuck the uni-brow! LOL Thanks for the insightful information Paul Kubin! What do you think of PA schools who have the accreditation status of "Accreditation-Provisional" like Charles D. University? What are my rights and benefits if I do go to such a provisionally approved school PA program? Can I get licensed as PA after graduating from such a provisionally approved PA program? How long does a "Accreditation-Provisional" PA prorgram.school take to get to a "Full-Accreditation" status ( I know that it may depend on the school etc.)?
Are these salaries that you're talking about before or after taxes? Because if a PA makes about $100,000 a year, they're actually earning about 75-80k because of taxes right? Which makes it difficult to pay back loans when you have a family and a mortgage and stuff like that right? Thanks
If a physician is a specialist (Board Certified), he or she has approximately 5 years of post graduate education. A PA is a shitty little two year Masters program. Stay away from me.
You pretty much need to get a research job, which is hard to do, or work in a clinic where one of the docs is a "principal investigator." In my clinic, my doc does, so I am a "sub-investigator," meaning that I evaluate and treat patients for clinical research studies. I'm not sure how you would find such a job other than 1) to ask the clinics where you are applying "Do you have any clinical trials here" or "Are any of your doctors principal investigators?" You COULD call the big pharma companies, such as Pfizer and ask them who are investigators for their studies, but that would be a very indirect way to go about it.
Donte Hall Yea...lets see your sources. I bet its a bunch of liberal news sites. When the stats breakdown you will find very little difference in hourly rates, but a huge discrepancy in hours worked and paid leave.
Why should there not be? Im confused about why you would disagree with gender equality.Also I'm a strong believer in backing my statements up with empirical evidence from reputable sources.
Paul Kubin Did you read the part of the comment that I stated, "for the most part": when looking at large data sets of statistical analysis there are almost always in a Gaussian distribution. There are always outliers. You, personally, taking time off to raise a family is hardly the average or a representation of the average. I even took the time to raise my daughter and sacrificed heavily time wise to receive my Ph.D but you and I are hardly the norm.
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Knowing what I finally want to do with my life feels so good :) #futurePA
Danny Arias yes! just also found out too
Thanks, Paul. Love how you dig up the data and give it some meaning!
Hey Paul, this is Aaron (lunch @ Taco Bravo in Willits a few years ago). I thought I'd let you know I started the Stanford PA program 2 months ago. I love to see your continued enthusiasm for the profession.
Hi Paul,
Amazing video. Very informative, I think I found my calling in life. The one thing you didn't mention, though, was the time, on average, it takes to get a job after graduation. Can you please share this statistic? Thanks Paul.
I have no firm stats on that one. I will say that in my class, most of us had jobs as soon as we were licensed. There are always stragglers though.
Paul, your videos and website are awesome and very informative. Thank you!
Great video with a lot of important and encouraging information. Thank you...!
Really informative! I've been wondering about updated numbers for some time now. Thanks :)
I see lots of gender gap questions and I would like to point out that the field isn't sexist it actually has a lot to do with decisions couples consciously make, for instance more couples choose to live where the husband finds the best job, more couples choose to have a new mother take time off from work after having a baby and many couples choose to have the mother cut back on her hours so she can be there more for her kids. so like most fields you find men accumulating more experience in a shorter time as well as on average working more hours a week. Every couple who wants to bring kids into the world has their own priorities and often times a women's earning potential is sacrificed to support their family and that's one of life's big tradeoffs that comes down to a personal decision
Yes it is SEXIST. When the job's salary goes higher when males are more. What you have said is barely anything. In these times, women work the same hours in the same job, there are nannies also.
Brandon Frandsen I had never thought of it this way, very informative
It's done both ways. I'm currently hourly. At my work when you've been there a couple years, they usually make you salary. It just depends.
In order to be in PA school what would you recommend getting your undergraduate degree in? Do you think it would be a good idea to get your degree in biology or nursing.
Thank you so much for this video! I am actually studying at UC Davis right now as an undergrad and looking into PA school? What is the best way to get in touch with PA's to shadow?
We have several articles on shadowing, including how to find docs and PAs to shadow on our website, www.mypatraining.com. Just pull down the main page side bar to "Topics" and click physician assistant shadowing.
Thorough, Paul. Well done!
Glad I found this vid so I can find the website. Applied last year before my bachelor degree was finished.. got one interview. Applying this year with my bachelor degree finished, 2.5 years of home health care and now 4 months as a CNA at a nursing home. Hoping to get in.
Very well done video! I'm interested in the P.A. program, i would like more information and I will subscribe to your feeds.
Thanks Paul! Keep 'em coming.
I cannot wait to pursue this field!
Nice video.. however, I wonder w/the avg salary you gave ... that doesn't narrow down to specialties - so what's the avg for Primary Care PA salary?
I am a UC Davis sophmore and I hope to get into the PA program in UC Davis school of medicine!
Im majoring in chemistry as an undergrad. do you think that is a good major for PA? . Im interested in this career and also want to know wether you would ever consider going to med school ? thank you
Dorthy Savage tbh for pa major isn't a huge deal as long as you meet the requirements for the pa school you want to attend. A science related major is good bc it'll give you a base on what you'll learn in the future. Also it's a great tip to do a minor and differentiate yourself from everyone else.
I'm only 16 right now but after high school I want to go to school to become a PA but do you think I will regret becoming a MD. My main concern is will I live comfortably on a PA salary? If you could respond it would be greatly appreciated.
You don't need to become a PA to make a decent living. There's so many professions out there that pay good money. I became a PA and only practiced 2 years and then actually went back to school, because I found a new passion. Don't get me wrong I loved the challenge of working with patients and medical staff, learned a lot, took a lot of verbal abuse.... from patients, family members and coworkers. However in the end I decided to move into starting my own business, after I went back to school after my time as a PA.
You have to have the passion for helping people if you go into any profession in the medical field. I think too many people get into the medical field just for the money, and not giving a damn about people's feelings. It was easy for me to spot these fake medical professionals and that's a huge reason why I followed a different dream that became a reality in the end.
Go with what your heart says and not where they money is at.
DO NOT become a teacher! Both of my parents are teachers and they get really stressed out. They always have to bring their work home (grading), and they have to deal with whiney kids all day. Yes, they get the summer off, but then they have to budget themselves. I highly recommend not becoming a teacher.
PUR3 Khaoss its perspective, i mean, i dont think anyone looks down on teachers at all, so i would have to say it definitely is beyond comfortable living lol
+asspounderify I didn't think of that
Sure wished I saw your video years ago..Sigh, well almost done with my bachelors and will be ready to apply to Pa school next year ☺️
As usual, best info out there.
PA's fight NP lobbying groups! MDs and PAs need to stick together and stop these lobbying groups!
Hey paul,
Do you know if there is a market for traveling PAs? Both in the US n internationally. Also what do you think there will be a market for pediatric PA off any specialty? I would love tho work w.kids. thanks! And love your site!!
-Jasmine Pre-PA
There is, a market for travelling PAs, actually. They're called Locum Tenens PAs. We have an article on Locum work at www.mypatraining.com. Just enter locum in the google search bar./
Haha Paul you forgot to insert the graphics! Great video though, thanks so much for sharing. I've been following your site for a while and I love the info you're providing for prospective PAs
Very helpful! Any suggestions for a 40 something career changer?
What are the highest and lowest paying specialties?
hello, i am a public health major. can i still go to PA school even if i have public health background on me?
How does a full time schedule for a PA looks like? Part-time?
Seriously I'm really happy about this.
Thanks, Paul. Love the site.
How long has PA salary been higher than NP salary? Seems like they've been around longer, so I wouldn't have expected them to make less.
Thanks for the video. Really helpful.
If you check on indeed in the Seattle area NP's and PA's make between $120k - $156k
Missa McFadden Wow that's really, I'm in Seattle and thinking of going to PA school.
Good job Mr.Kubin! Peace! Omar " Dr.O the PA Pro " Abdul-Malik DHEd, MPAS, PA-C 🤓
I would love to hear an update!
Happy new year
Thanks a lot for this video.
Varies by employer, typically salary
Get very clear on what the schools that interest you are looking for in terms of health care experience. Then go out there and get that experience. Then write an essay that shows what you have to offer from your previous experiences - you have a lot more than the 20-somethings, but you need to help them see it.
Do PAs get paid by the hour or salary usually?
Highest: radiology, dermatology, cosmetic surgery, and (surprisingly) pediatrics.
Lowest: women's health, oncology, schools (elementary/community college).
Fuck the uni-brow! LOL Thanks for the insightful information Paul Kubin! What do you think of PA schools who have the accreditation status of "Accreditation-Provisional" like Charles D. University? What are my rights and benefits if I do go to such a provisionally approved school PA program? Can I get licensed as PA after graduating from such a provisionally approved PA program? How long does a "Accreditation-Provisional" PA prorgram.school take to get to a "Full-Accreditation" status ( I know that it may depend on the school etc.)?
well-done video
Are these salaries that you're talking about before or after taxes? Because if a PA makes about $100,000 a year, they're actually earning about 75-80k because of taxes right? Which makes it difficult to pay back loans when you have a family and a mortgage and stuff like that right?
Thanks
probably 30K or more when you factor in payroll tax, ssi tax, state income tax (if any).
Thanks paul!!
If a physician is a specialist (Board Certified), he or she has approximately 5 years of post graduate education. A PA is a shitty little two year Masters program. Stay away from me.
Thanks, guys!
Info about PA salary where you live:
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Hello paul im in school right now for a bs in health science can this degree get me into a PA program
Darnell Ferguson it sure can!
How is the salary in pediactics ?
I am from Rhode island & I am 29 years old
That speciality is 99k but thats national average. Your area you live or want to work varies
Being a pediatrician? That's a Doctor.
Hi paul ! I have a couple questions that i'd like to ask you I don't know if its okay to just leave them here.
Probably better to contact me through the website: www.insidepatraining.com/contact-us
I'm looking into that - it hasn't been tracked well, so I'll have to get back to you.
Let's go aggies!!!!
Thank, everybody. I'm open for questions too - just post 'em here.
Paul Kubin i know it's VERY late. But seriously, why does the salary goes higher when there is more men attending it,it's severl sexist.
OMG I'm so in the wrong field.
Do you know how to do clinical research is a PA?
+Paul Kubin thank you
You pretty much need to get a research job, which is hard to do, or work in a clinic where one of the docs is a "principal investigator." In my clinic, my doc does, so I am a "sub-investigator," meaning that I evaluate and treat patients for clinical research studies. I'm not sure how you would find such a job other than 1) to ask the clinics where you are applying "Do you have any clinical trials here" or "Are any of your doctors principal investigators?" You COULD call the big pharma companies, such as Pfizer and ask them who are investigators for their studies, but that would be a very indirect way to go about it.
West coast make so much because EVERYTHING is so expensive out there.
Cali is a more expensive state brother.
HECK YEA WHOOP GIG'EM AGS!!! my bad I meant Texas A&M aggies LoL
Very informative but there really should be something done about gender inequality.
Donte Hall Yea...lets see your sources. I bet its a bunch of liberal news sites. When the stats breakdown you will find very little difference in hourly rates, but a huge discrepancy in hours worked and paid leave.
Why should there not be? Im confused about why you would disagree with gender equality.Also I'm a strong believer in backing my statements up with empirical evidence from reputable sources.
+Donte Hall No there really shouldn't be because this is about reality and not political lies that you here on MTV.
Paul Kubin
Did you read the part of the comment that I stated, "for the most part": when looking at large data sets of statistical analysis there are almost always in a Gaussian distribution. There are always outliers. You, personally, taking time off to raise a family is hardly the average or a representation of the average. I even took the time to raise my daughter and sacrificed heavily time wise to receive my Ph.D but you and I are hardly the norm.
1czelaya I disagree. I took time off to raise my kids. The women I know in medicine are some of the hardest working, longest-hour employees I know.
Come to me, Benjamins...
is that a unibrow???
Don't you mean to say "sex" rather than "gender"?
stop trying to take over youtube dammit