@thomas Miller Numpad is extremely useful for some of us, I have a tiny keyboard without numpad and it makes my life miserable since I type lots of numbers throughout the day. Sure what you say makes sense but not for everyone.
Ergonomics expert is not a protected term. Too much nonsense is spread that causes people to suffer from back problems. You should never tilt your pelvis forward, because you already suffer from an anterior pelvic tilt from sitting so much. It is better to do the opposite now and then and tense the abdomen very strongly.
It helped me a lot. I was having sharp pains in my elbows, wrist and fingers. COme to find out its my desk and chair. Switched everything around and I have not had to use my gloves or other devices to ease the pain. Thanks John!
Ergonomics is such an underrated, or at least not very apparent, part of work (any type of work, from desksto kitchens to factories) and life in general. Most people invest a fair amount of money on taking care of our phones or computers, but usually not as much on taking care of ourselves, so it's great when companies prioritize ergonomics, taking care of their people through mostly small but impactful changes
@Pedro Lopes i have a standing desk and i honestly don't use it as much as i should x_x but i've been trying to work under a pomodoro system (work for 25 minutes and then take a break for 5) and have been getting up more during breaks for online classes as long as the teacher doesn't have like laser sharp eagle eyes and you have a way to still listen in to the class i don't see much harm in just getting up for five minutes to go to the bathroom or get a glass of water if you're in person in classes then i guess you could set timers or just count minutes to straighten up every x amount of minutes
Home office worker here: as someone with occasionally 6+ hours of back to back meetings a day, the only solution for me was completely avoid sitting by promoting my desk to a standing one. Then I do calf stretches, occasional bending of the torso etc. Comes a lot more natural when standing compared to sitting.
Good for you. I've considered standing working environments but they'd be much more painful for me because I can't stand without pain for longer than 10-15 minutes - I need to walk lr sit down. But if it works, it's amazing. And stretches don't help much, but that's probably because I have a lot of vascular problems in my legs specifically
Love this! How about a desk set up for those who are taking online classes? A space for a laptop, notebooks, and books, how to organize that? I'm kind of struggling with their placement since I need to use all of them at the same time and my desk is kinda small.
Had the same problems, this is what is did to solve them, I used spare books to prop up my iPad and placed it at the corner of the desk, tilted towards me, then aligned the chair so that I’m facing the iPad, this way I freed up some space for the notebooks and books
I really want to highlight his note about laptops here. For yourself and for anyone in your family or circle using laptops, please stress to them that they must be using an external keyboard whenever possible and raising the laptop up. I am a massage therapist, and I have seen first-hand what happens when this is not addressed. I am also an avid computer user, so I have suffered a long time from some of these issues. 1 subtle note to adhere, it's about using your mouse. I've noticed that we often have our hands hovering on the mouse, poised and ready to click. If you feel your body while this is happening, you will notice that your arm and shoulder and even up to your neck or engaged this whole time. If you spend a lot of time at the computer, I highly recommend being cognizant of totally disengaging from the mouse, when you have nothing to do. As well, there are very simple keyboard shortcuts that you can use to move around the page and even between screens, to cut down on the amount that you use your mouse. One last note: if you decide to get a wireless keyboard for your laptop or desktop, many of them come with a Bluetooth Switcher. This would allow you to be able to type on your phone as well as your computer. Again, if you have long stretches where you use your computer and phone at your desk, I recommend getting a suction cup vertical stand for your phone so that it is positioned at proper height and you don't have to look down to read it. Then, as a text or whatever kind of message comes into your phone that you want to respond to, you just flip the switch type on your keyboard for your response, and switch back to your main computer.
@Barbra Evergreen drink more water, move once in every half-an-hour and eat fiber rich foods. Hemorrhoids at the beginning stages can actually go away with proper discipline
Thank you so much WSJ, I used to tilt my keyboard at 45 degrees, mouse almost beside my monitor and my nose almost touching the screen. Now I went from MGE to Silver 4 in 4 days…..
I constantly end up with a chair that is just slightly too short so I am hiking my shoulders. It’s annoying and has caused back and should pain/ wear and tear. I just had rotator surgery and it is a challenge. These are great tips.
3 Years ago I saw this video and designed my desk, now everything takes care of itself, As I come back and see this video now, its all a part of my routine and my body feels so much better. Thank you
It is really interesting to see that my desk setup is already similar to what the video is talking about. I feel weird because in time, my desk setup transformed to its current final shape. I guess I changed what made me uncomfortable over time and it evolved into its final shape which it already is the most comfortable one.
Excellent. I just created a new workspace at home that I will further adjust. The footstool definitely helps! My physical therapist recommended those same exercises and they work. Also, because of chronic back issues I have added a large heating pad draped over the back of my chair that I use of off and on. Total game changer.
This is a truly important video for everyone that occasionally works at a desk, including students, office workers, and the countless tens of millions working with computers. Ergonomic research is a serious discipline with considerable research coming out of the space program a few decades ago, and continuing to today.
@Simon WoodburyForget And do you seriously think that highly sophisticated jet aircraft, including combat jet aircraft, and space vehicles such as the space shuttle would be designed without such ergonomic optimization in mind. Give me a break and get real. What's more the aforementioned research volumes are mostly unclassified and easily available to the public. And, there are numerous scholarly, refereed periodicals on Ergonomics. Clearly, you don't know what your talking about.
@Tom Eldred Yes, there is voluminous research and published findings. These studies began more than a century ago with so-called Time and Motion studies, which were done for assembly plants, offices, and the like. Numerous scholarly books were written on that subject through the 1950s when the aerospace industry took off. At that time other key words were often used, but Ergonomics became most often associated with such studies. Private industry and academia continued to research the field, but NASA and the military put big research into the field because of manned space flight and jet cockpit design, which must be optimal. Fortunately, many of these studies have been published by the government in large softback volumes and multi-volume sets resembling telephone books (in outward appearance). The volumes are impressive and broad in scope. This I know to be a fact because the research institution that I am affiliated with has more than two dozen of the aforementioned volumes.
@Tom Eldred so, apart from standing from your chair some times a day your advice is slouch as much as you want and take whatever posture you wish so everything is all made up? I don't know man, it sounds like trying to get a normal resting position where your muscles arent looking like a knot is a good approach, even if following ALL the tips in the video is probably too much.
There is minimal evidence behind ergonomic interventions being important. Little to no research out there says "elbows have to be @ 90 degrees" or computer screen is "an arms length away". It all sounds great, but is it backed by anything? When these people can bring scientific research out that backs this stuff up, then they can start being important. Fear mongering at the start of "leaning, slouching etc. can lead to pain" is what this industry strives off. Best part of the video is at the end, giving exercises + saying to get up every hour. That is helpful, the changes before that are all unnecessary.
@Ale Zuvic Good point. Set theoretically, regularly is a subset of occasionally, and occasionally would be more inclusive. I recommend the video for anyone occasionally working at a desk, and especially for those regularly working at a desk.
I've actually done most of these steps! I have my laptop an arms distance away situated on top of a tissue box to stop looking down so much as well as an external keyboard to stop leaning forward so much. Good posture is so important. This video helped reaffirm that thank you!
Thank you for this. This was useful. Can you please do a video on optimizing chair controls ? My chair has a ton of controls (Ergo chair 2) but I am pretty sure they aren't optimally set. For example, the back rest. Should it be at 90 deg to the seat cushion.. or slightly backward ?
I've been doing pretty much exactly all this for the last 15 years and it's good. One more thing I'd recommend is to place your most used tool right in front of you. Like if you use your mouse more than your keyboard while gaming for example. I've had RSI issues with my wrists (CTS), elbow and somewhat in the shoulder since forever and find that it's a good idea to switch things around a bit and even rotate between different tools such as a mouse and a touchpad when you feel the pain starting to build up. At one point, when it was really bad for a while, I even switched my mouse hand to get some pain relief. I'm getting better at keeping myself from pushing on when I start noting the first signs of pain. I need to be mindful of this but it's a struggle. I've been in the IT industry for over 25 years now.
Eu sei que pode ser uma mudança de mentalidade gradativa e demorada (além da conjuntura financeira do indivíduo ou do país), mas já vejo sinais de mudanças positivas em relação as pagar por por software. Eu mesmo antigamente crackeava tudo que podia. Hoje por ter uma medida de conhecimento na área, e entender o esforço dos devs, compro a maioria dos softwares que utilizo. Vejo esse movimento em outras pessoas a minha volta.
I played games on my pc my whole live, and now working as a video editor (and still playing games) it's safe to say that i spend a good portion of my life on a chair. I used to have lot's of pain in different areas over the years, and now i clicked on this video out of curiosity, just to find out that i actually setup everything in the correct way. And i just realized that I probably did it based on what's causing pain and what not.
I noticed that doc didn't mention the importance of adjusting armrests, so the will be on the same level as desk. That would allow to use mouse and keyboard while resting your hands. Also having mouse pad allows to avoid resting your hands on cold table, which could lead ro serious issues
I did all those exercises/stretches subconsciously without evening knowing (or acknowledging that what I was doing was even an exercise or stretch) that they were actually a thing.. I had found over time and personal experience that stretching in those ways helped reset the "strain/tension timer" for those areas of my body so I just did them naturally without even questioning or thinking about it. Really neat how the human body and brain works if you think about it.. *Great* video btw, thank you so much for the well put/well thought inputs/incites/overall advice!!
Some of these things don't matter if you: a) have a big enough monitor (or resolution) b) modify the chair to fit your desk height to suit you personally But the advice to make a break every 1h is excellent. I do it too, and I also look at something 4-5 meters away for 60 seconds, to not go blind eventually
Yes! Thinner desk is better. Naturally, most people's hands rest at upper leg height or lower when they're sitting. So a great way to injure your shoulders is by lifting your arms hours a day by using a desk that's too high.
You are absolutely right. When I saw the title and the then this desk I really thought they will be like: "don't buy desk like this" and explain why. My girlfriend have desk like this and it's horrible. When I adjust for legs - my hands are uncomfortable. When I adjust for hands - my legs are pressing bottom of the desk
The funny thing is that I found these stretching exercises by myself and also adjusted my chair and my monitor by myself. Probably it's something like a natural desire to get your body relaxed.
i think this should be shown in every "home studio/desk setup videos" too... instead of just showing off the uploader's pricey setup or how good it looks... I loved this video... ♥
Literally everything he mentioned I already did naturally before watching this lol. I even do the same exercises just out of habit, and my Apple Watch reminds me to stand every hour. I guess it makes sense seeing that ergonomics is based on natural movement.
I love how I clicked this video to figure out what I'm doing wrong but other than the chair [static wooden] my stuff is literally perfect. That's so hilariously brilliant and brightened my day a little
This is my ergonomic setup. I put 5 pillows on my chair to make it higher. I put 5 textbooks under my laptop to make it higher. I stole a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse from my dad to use. I put a bucket under my first so my feet are flat. It's overall very uncomfortable but at least I don't get shoulder pain any more! 👍
Nearly everyone at work was provided all these things and I never heard anyone complain about pain from working. They ordered us anything we wanted to make working easy.
Very helpful, I was uncomfortable at my desk and couldn't pint point the why. So I followed the suggestions and when I moved the main monitor distance to arm's length that did the trick.
Spending up to 10 hours a day in front of a monitor for almost 10 years now, having no sign of back or neck pain, I just realized my setup have always been exactly like the guy just described. And no, neither my chair nor my monitor is adjustable nor I am using paper reams
This video is acctually really helpful. I had extreme back pains because i spend around 6-7 hours a day at the desk. Therefore leading to bad posture then resulting in pain.
I am a work-from-home person and you have no idea how helpful this is. I used to ask to be massaged by my fiance but now, I no longer need that. The things I learned here really did me good.
Why not level the armrest with the table so you can use it and take the stress off your shoulders. It also keeps your elbow and forearm leveled with the table so you aren't bending your wrist when you start slouching.
I've been asking for a better chair at the current place I work in for over a year now and came across this video. Its important to have a good chair for good posture.
This is helpful, but I also want to say: If you're in good health (no injury to cause pain), you can sit in absolutely any position for decades without ever having pain. If you do have a pain-causing injury, you will *never* find a comfortable position.. you will be in extreme pain no matter how you arrange your desk. The important thing is getting physical therapy and/or massage to treat your injury. A high dose of ibuprofen may also help but has drawbacks (A low dose will probably do nothing).
Lol as an occupational therapist I’ve used reams of paper to help with positioning before too, especially when money was limited or we were waiting for the actual foot rest to arrive for my clients.
Had this in "watch later" for like a year, I just now watched and applied it, my desk looks a lil weird but hopefully my neck stiffness will decrease. Thanks!
Excellent advice, good video, very concise and to the point .... I have a gadget that would be beneficial, it is called The Mouse Cradle, I have a video on KZclip, (it is a hand/wrist rest for using a computer mouse and a numeric keypad .... it is the best thing on the market
Uha, knew the Feng Shui mentioned to set things such as phones on the left but didn't know the ergonomics behind... And thank you for sharing these tips. Was trying to arrange the second screen and wondering what's the right setting as I feel the current setting is not comfortable after being in the position for a while... Thank you so much! Wish I found this video earlier!
Tip: using a curved monitor can prevent eye strain, most ultrawide monitors have curved screen so your eyes are good and also better if you are multitasking.
What are you doing wrong with your desk setup right now?
-Adam Falk, WSJ
@thomas Miller Numpad is extremely useful for some of us, I have a tiny keyboard without numpad and it makes my life miserable since I type lots of numbers throughout the day. Sure what you say makes sense but not for everyone.
*EVERYTHING*
You don't wanna know
Aside from having a meter high bar table and no chair, nothing.
this guy is using a WIRED keyboard and mouse from 1998...wow this is outdated
This is what I call "a great video". Short, full of useful information, straight to the point, funny and professional. Thank you and congratulations!!
Yeah, all while missing most of the important points of ergonomics. This video is a joke. Short, but pointless.
Mouse movement is my biggest issue. I had shoulder pain because of it.
unlike Linus Tech Tips
I’m too short 😭
everyone is memeing him but this actually helped a lot
that wired mouse and keyboard isn't helping anyone...I wonder if it has the ball inside the mouse that picks up hairs...
Ergonomics expert is not a protected term. Too much nonsense is spread that causes people to suffer from back problems. You should never tilt your pelvis forward, because you already suffer from an anterior pelvic tilt from sitting so much. It is better to do the opposite now and then and tense the abdomen very strongly.
Except most of you didn’t use it, including you
What's wrong whit people?!, they try to make fun of everything atumaticly😑
It helped me a lot. I was having sharp pains in my elbows, wrist and fingers. COme to find out its my desk and chair. Switched everything around and I have not had to use my gloves or other devices to ease the pain. Thanks John!
This guy was built for this moment.
@My soul left lol Egypt be like
I was looking for this comment 😂
@My soul left is this a zoo?
lol, he is so perfectly match in this tutorial
Ergonomics is such an underrated, or at least not very apparent, part of work (any type of work, from desksto kitchens to factories) and life in general. Most people invest a fair amount of money on taking care of our phones or computers, but usually not as much on taking care of ourselves, so it's great when companies prioritize ergonomics, taking care of their people through mostly small but impactful changes
Imagine going to this guys house and slightly moving everything by like a quarter of an inch
A rim of paper then
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH HILLAROUS
@z3noth Captain Holt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The sheer evil of it, I love.
yea
"get up every hour" - laughing in 4 hour classes
I'm showing this to my teacher who keeps listing the noisy and standing students.
@Pedro Lopes i have a standing desk and i honestly don't use it as much as i should x_x but i've been trying to work under a pomodoro system (work for 25 minutes and then take a break for 5) and have been getting up more during breaks
for online classes as long as the teacher doesn't have like laser sharp eagle eyes and you have a way to still listen in to the class i don't see much harm in just getting up for five minutes to go to the bathroom or get a glass of water
if you're in person in classes then i guess you could set timers or just count minutes to straighten up every x amount of minutes
@Once an Army awww man :( never had something like that here, scoliosis go brr
@Sania Inez A year ago I did but not anymore since I'm in person. The pain.
@Once an Army you do????
Ergonomics Expert: You should get out of your chair at least once an hour
Gamer: No, I don't think I will
"No, I don't think I can"
Fast walking 4miles a day
Programmer: leave me alone, I’ve almost figured this out.
I understood that reference 😂😂😂
And the one I just made now 😂😂😂
nah as a csgo player it actually forces you to take a break since matchmaking takes about 10 minutes.
"After 10, 15 minutes we all begin to slouch in our chairs."
Yea, let's say 3 minutes.
i can relate to this hahaha
Andrew Shay hahahaa then?
@Disconnect.ed_ it's a basic technique to let fresh air in your undies
more like IMMEDIATELY
3 seconds
I did a few of the things he mentioned here and my setup instantly became more comfortable. Fantastic video!
Same happened for me !!
Home office worker here: as someone with occasionally 6+ hours of back to back meetings a day, the only solution for me was completely avoid sitting by promoting my desk to a standing one. Then I do calf stretches, occasional bending of the torso etc. Comes a lot more natural when standing compared to sitting.
Good for you. I've considered standing working environments but they'd be much more painful for me because I can't stand without pain for longer than 10-15 minutes - I need to walk lr sit down. But if it works, it's amazing.
And stretches don't help much, but that's probably because I have a lot of vascular problems in my legs specifically
Love this! How about a desk set up for those who are taking online classes? A space for a laptop, notebooks, and books, how to organize that? I'm kind of struggling with their placement since I need to use all of them at the same time and my desk is kinda small.
Your desk is too small just buy reams of paper
Had the same problems, this is what is did to solve them,
I used spare books to prop up my iPad and placed it at the corner of the desk, tilted towards me, then aligned the chair so that I’m facing the iPad, this way I freed up some space for the notebooks and books
@Michaeel “If you’re homeless just buy a house”
buy a bigger desk
I really want to highlight his note about laptops here. For yourself and for anyone in your family or circle using laptops, please stress to them that they must be using an external keyboard whenever possible and raising the laptop up.
I am a massage therapist, and I have seen first-hand what happens when this is not addressed. I am also an avid computer user, so I have suffered a long time from some of these issues.
1 subtle note to adhere, it's about using your mouse. I've noticed that we often have our hands hovering on the mouse, poised and ready to click. If you feel your body while this is happening, you will notice that your arm and shoulder and even up to your neck or engaged this whole time. If you spend a lot of time at the computer, I highly recommend being cognizant of totally disengaging from the mouse, when you have nothing to do. As well, there are very simple keyboard shortcuts that you can use to move around the page and even between screens, to cut down on the amount that you use your mouse.
One last note: if you decide to get a wireless keyboard for your laptop or desktop, many of them come with a Bluetooth Switcher. This would allow you to be able to type on your phone as well as your computer.
Again, if you have long stretches where you use your computer and phone at your desk, I recommend getting a suction cup vertical stand for your phone so that it is positioned at proper height and you don't have to look down to read it. Then, as a text or whatever kind of message comes into your phone that you want to respond to, you just flip the switch type on your keyboard for your response, and switch back to your main computer.
Who WSJ expected to watch this video: Office workers
Who really watched this video: *G A M E R S*
Yeep
yep
Yep
Yes
Yes
The moment when you intuitively already does all exercises he shows because it relieves exactly were it hurts.
Thank god he also demonstrated how to get up, I've been stuck in my chair for the last 3 years
@Barbra Evergreen drink more water, move once in every half-an-hour and eat fiber rich foods. Hemorrhoids at the beginning stages can actually go away with proper discipline
Did you have hemorrhoids cause of sitting for a long time? Cause I'm just 6 months in my wfh job ang now I got hemorrhoids. It's so painful. 😭
Girl: "I only date guys that are over 6 ft"
Me: *stands on reams of paper*
best one dude
underrated
hahahahha
So glad he emphasized the need for movement. It's such an important part of ergonomics.
Thank you so much WSJ, I used to tilt my keyboard at 45 degrees, mouse almost beside my monitor and my nose almost touching the screen.
Now I went from MGE to Silver 4 in 4 days…..
Bro i went from diamond 1 to iron 3 😁
This was very helpful.
I was about to put my chair on top of my desk.
If you need extra height from your chair, just prop it up with a ream of paper.
@Anand Suralkar In KZclip history
Agast Dwipa lol first time seen someone appreciating someone's sense of humour 😊😊
Lol, by far the best comment!
That's what we did at school after the last lesson to make cleaning easy.
I constantly end up with a chair that is just slightly too short so I am hiking my shoulders. It’s annoying and has caused back and should pain/ wear and tear. I just had rotator surgery and it is a challenge. These are great tips.
3 Years ago I saw this video and designed my desk, now everything takes care of itself, As I come back and see this video now, its all a part of my routine and my body feels so much better. Thank you
It is really interesting to see that my desk setup is already similar to what the video is talking about. I feel weird because in time, my desk setup transformed to its current final shape. I guess I changed what made me uncomfortable over time and it evolved into its final shape which it already is the most comfortable one.
i did all the tips and its awesome. very different from my setup before. thank you for this.
Excellent. I just created a new workspace at home that I will further adjust. The footstool definitely helps! My physical therapist recommended those same exercises and they work. Also, because of chronic back issues I have added a large heating pad draped over the back of my chair that I use of off and on. Total game changer.
This is a truly important video for everyone that occasionally works at a desk, including students, office workers, and the countless tens of millions working with computers. Ergonomic research is a serious discipline with considerable research coming out of the space program a few decades ago, and continuing to today.
@Simon WoodburyForget And do you seriously think that highly sophisticated jet aircraft, including combat jet aircraft, and space vehicles such as the space shuttle would be designed without such ergonomic optimization in mind. Give me a break and get real. What's more the aforementioned research volumes are mostly unclassified and easily available to the public. And, there are numerous scholarly, refereed periodicals on Ergonomics. Clearly, you don't know what your talking about.
@Tom Eldred Yes, there is voluminous research and published findings. These studies began more than a century ago with so-called Time and Motion studies, which were done for assembly plants, offices, and the like. Numerous scholarly books were written on that subject through the 1950s when the aerospace industry took off. At that time other key words were often used, but Ergonomics became most often associated with such studies. Private industry and academia continued to research the field, but NASA and the military put big research into the field because of manned space flight and jet cockpit design, which must be optimal. Fortunately, many of these studies have been published by the government in large softback volumes and multi-volume sets resembling telephone books (in outward appearance). The volumes are impressive and broad in scope. This I know to be a fact because the research institution that I am affiliated with has more than two dozen of the aforementioned volumes.
@Tom Eldred so, apart from standing from your chair some times a day your advice is slouch as much as you want and take whatever posture you wish so everything is all made up?
I don't know man, it sounds like trying to get a normal resting position where your muscles arent looking like a knot is a good approach, even if following ALL the tips in the video is probably too much.
There is minimal evidence behind ergonomic interventions being important. Little to no research out there says "elbows have to be @ 90 degrees" or computer screen is "an arms length away". It all sounds great, but is it backed by anything? When these people can bring scientific research out that backs this stuff up, then they can start being important. Fear mongering at the start of "leaning, slouching etc. can lead to pain" is what this industry strives off.
Best part of the video is at the end, giving exercises + saying to get up every hour. That is helpful, the changes before that are all unnecessary.
@Ale Zuvic Good point. Set theoretically, regularly is a subset of occasionally, and occasionally would be more inclusive. I recommend the video for anyone occasionally working at a desk, and especially for those regularly working at a desk.
I've actually done most of these steps! I have my laptop an arms distance away situated on top of a tissue box to stop looking down so much as well as an external keyboard to stop leaning forward so much. Good posture is so important. This video helped reaffirm that thank you!
Thank you for this. This was useful. Can you please do a video on optimizing chair controls ? My chair has a ton of controls (Ergo chair 2) but I am pretty sure they aren't optimally set. For example, the back rest. Should it be at 90 deg to the seat cushion.. or slightly backward ?
I've been doing pretty much exactly all this for the last 15 years and it's good. One more thing I'd recommend is to place your most used tool right in front of you. Like if you use your mouse more than your keyboard while gaming for example.
I've had RSI issues with my wrists (CTS), elbow and somewhat in the shoulder since forever and find that it's a good idea to switch things around a bit and even rotate between different tools such as a mouse and a touchpad when you feel the pain starting to build up. At one point, when it was really bad for a while, I even switched my mouse hand to get some pain relief.
I'm getting better at keeping myself from pushing on when I start noting the first signs of pain. I need to be mindful of this but it's a struggle. I've been in the IT industry for over 25 years now.
Great video! Informative, well structured and helpful to everyone. Many thanks
So basic but so helpful! Didn't realize I was doing a LOT of these wrong, hence the arm pain! Time to change my setup.
"Step 1, adjust your chair"
Glances over to my foldable chair...
my dinner table chair
lol, I have a dinner table chair because my computer's in the kitchen
I sit on a rock
*Laughs in wooden dining chair*
Eu sei que pode ser uma mudança de mentalidade gradativa e demorada (além da conjuntura financeira do indivíduo ou do país), mas já vejo sinais de mudanças positivas em relação as pagar por por software. Eu mesmo antigamente crackeava tudo que podia. Hoje por ter uma medida de conhecimento na área, e entender o esforço dos devs, compro a maioria dos softwares que utilizo. Vejo esse movimento em outras pessoas a minha volta.
I'm about to meet my first day of my first full-time job after this weekend, a perfect timing for me to see this video. Thanks John!!
This was helpful. I just got my first office job and been using these techniques to avoid any neck/shoulder/back pain
This are great tips! Thank you so much, never thought about rising up my laptop before, but I am gonna do it for sure now!
I played games on my pc my whole live, and now working as a video editor (and still playing games) it's safe to say that i spend a good portion of my life on a chair. I used to have lot's of pain in different areas over the years, and now i clicked on this video out of curiosity, just to find out that i actually setup everything in the correct way. And i just realized that I probably did it based on what's causing pain and what not.
I love such short and informative (& minimalistic) videos.
And do you love the ream of paper?
Love them!
I noticed that doc didn't mention the importance of adjusting armrests, so the will be on the same level as desk. That would allow to use mouse and keyboard while resting your hands. Also having mouse pad allows to avoid resting your hands on cold table, which could lead ro serious issues
I did all those exercises/stretches subconsciously without evening knowing (or acknowledging that what I was doing was even an exercise or stretch) that they were actually a thing.. I had found over time and personal experience that stretching in those ways helped reset the "strain/tension timer" for those areas of my body so I just did them naturally without even questioning or thinking about it. Really neat how the human body and brain works if you think about it..
*Great* video btw, thank you so much for the well put/well thought inputs/incites/overall advice!!
Some of these things don't matter if you:
a) have a big enough monitor (or resolution)
b) modify the chair to fit your desk height to suit you personally
But the advice to make a break every 1h is excellent. I do it too, and I also look at something 4-5 meters away for 60 seconds, to not go blind eventually
Excellent video! clear and simple explanation and fun :) Thank you
This video is sensational and highly educational. It is important to watch it several times and practice. it's worth it.
Ergonomics Expert : Puts Keyboard straight in front of him
CSGO Players : No, I dont think I will
Lol i have a space for my keyboard to stay under, its very comfy since i can adjust my chairs elbow stand thingy
@Someone ok
Myonions Matter the video shows the most healthy way of this, you don’t gave to do it. we gamers, we all gotta admit r just couch potatoes
90 degree tilt
I can't express how helpful this is!
Just the demo I need ❤️ thanks a lot!
Very useful, just the right thing everyone working long hours on desk must follow these. Good work. 👍
This is simple and brilliant. Unlike the whole lot of other fluff available on KZclip.
I followed this setup 2 years ago. Till now I haven't changed my setup and haven't faced any problem. Best setup💯
First step is to not buy a desk with drawers.
It takes up space between your arms and legs.
Yes! Thinner desk is better. Naturally, most people's hands rest at upper leg height or lower when they're sitting. So a great way to injure your shoulders is by lifting your arms hours a day by using a desk that's too high.
@KirbyLinkACW what chair is that?
yup, my desk have correct height but because of the drawers my knee caps are constantly bruised from hitting the underside.
You are absolutely right.
When I saw the title and the then this desk I really thought they will be like: "don't buy desk like this" and explain why.
My girlfriend have desk like this and it's horrible.
When I adjust for legs - my hands are uncomfortable.
When I adjust for hands - my legs are pressing bottom of the desk
Second step is not to buy a desk at all, it just takes up space.
The funny thing is that I found these stretching exercises by myself and also adjusted my chair and my monitor by myself. Probably it's something like a natural desire to get your body relaxed.
Turns out my home office is more ergonomically set up than I anticipated based on this video
Very informative, helpful and to the point👌
i think this should be shown in every "home studio/desk setup videos" too... instead of just showing off the uploader's pricey setup or how good it looks...
I loved this video... ♥
Meme as you will :) This is a very relevant & easy video to get great tips from even for Hybrid workers :) Well done Jon!!
pro esports player: I'm about to ignore everything this man just said
@Dylan BASTIEN bro did you see how esports players angle their keyboards lol...
@Oliver haha💀
They may have shorter career but... More money.
It’s all about comfort man, who cares about your spine. Need to get the W man
pRo E sPoRtS PlAYeR
Literally everything he mentioned I already did naturally before watching this lol. I even do the same exercises just out of habit, and my Apple Watch reminds me to stand every hour. I guess it makes sense seeing that ergonomics is based on natural movement.
I've been doing this for years and it works. Listen to what this man tells you because it will help you not to be in pain!
I'm trying to set up my home office for my room when I move so glad I found this 🙌🏼 especially with my back pain
I love how I clicked this video to figure out what I'm doing wrong but other than the chair [static wooden] my stuff is literally perfect. That's so hilariously brilliant and brightened my day a little
This is my ergonomic setup. I put 5 pillows on my chair to make it higher. I put 5 textbooks under my laptop to make it higher. I stole a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse from my dad to use. I put a bucket under my first so my feet are flat. It's overall very uncomfortable but at least I don't get shoulder pain any more! 👍
Problems with your marriage?
REAMS OF PAPER
XDD
That cat looks so much like mine. Nice pfp bro.
hi
Tyler Durden hahahaha
@floor puncher 🌸 actually you are her footrest
She wears the pants lol
Nearly everyone at work was provided all these things and I never heard anyone complain about pain from working. They ordered us anything we wanted to make working easy.
Very helpful video I realized my chair is too low to the ground
Also if you don’t have reams of paper use a thick book (I use an old SAT book)
It is interesting how I do many of these things naturally, but also not surprising considering I have spent incredible amounts of time behind a pc.
Very helpful, I was uncomfortable at my desk and couldn't pint point the why. So I followed the suggestions and when I moved the main monitor distance to arm's length that did the trick.
Really informative, and useful. Thanks!
No mouse pad, okay I got a solution for that.
*REAMS OF PAPER!*
Veryyy true tho lol
It's true
@Declan Bushnell Films lol
No computer to work at? Ream of paper will do the trick.
i use my desk its very plane so its easy to move my desk from there
This was actually very helpful. Thanks for posting WSJ
Spending up to 10 hours a day in front of a monitor for almost 10 years now, having no sign of back or neck pain, I just realized my setup have always been exactly like the guy just described. And no, neither my chair nor my monitor is adjustable nor I am using paper reams
Thanks for the great tips, Jon! It works...great content WSJ
This is what I would call a great instructive video with the just-right amount of comedy.
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll try to improve my ergonomics. That helps a lot with productivity.
This video helped me a lot with my desk setup for my online classes thank you
This video is acctually really helpful. I had extreme back pains because i spend around 6-7 hours a day at the desk. Therefore leading to bad posture then resulting in pain.
I 'm starting to "build" my home office area, this video is perfect for me !!
I am a work-from-home person and you have no idea how helpful this is. I used to ask to be massaged by my fiance but now, I no longer need that. The things I learned here really did me good.
He was a teacher, plumber, delivery man, yoga instructor, and now an ergonomic doctor? Is there anything this man cannot do???
Life is in shambles?
*Nothin' Reams of Paper can't fix*
solution to the modern, paperless office.... more paper :)
Its the new Flex Tape
thatsalotofpaper
Why not level the armrest with the table so you can use it and take the stress off your shoulders. It also keeps your elbow and forearm leveled with the table so you aren't bending your wrist when you start slouching.
We need more of this man for everything
I've been asking for a better chair at the current place I work in for over a year now and came across this video. Its important to have a good chair for good posture.
This video saved me from alot of pain in my whole body for horrific positions, thank you!
Clear message, clear structure, easy to understand, thank you
Helpful and informative! Please make more videos like this!
Thanks
Love them!
This is helpful, but I also want to say: If you're in good health (no injury to cause pain), you can sit in absolutely any position for decades without ever having pain. If you do have a pain-causing injury, you will *never* find a comfortable position.. you will be in extreme pain no matter how you arrange your desk. The important thing is getting physical therapy and/or massage to treat your injury. A high dose of ibuprofen may also help but has drawbacks (A low dose will probably do nothing).
I'm really enjoying your video content! Excellently done! :)
Thanks a lot John! Very helpful and insightful. Going to use your advice.
this is very helpful especially in the times of pandemic where most of us is working from home. My back hurts while writing this
Thought this would be a boring and nerdy video but it turned out to be really useful, thanks Jon Cinkay and WSJ
*If you don't have a desk and chair at all, use reams of paper!!*
Lol as an occupational therapist I’ve used reams of paper to help with positioning before too, especially when money was limited or we were waiting for the actual foot rest to arrive for my clients.
hahah am I the only one who actually found your joke funny xD
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Lol! Making pointless comments on other comments is very mature? Welcome to the net.
@Wandering Wonderer Meaning is what is important. Policing people for spelling is really immature.
you dont need to for minecraft
The most valuable lesson I have ever learned. I shared it with evey single person I know
Watching this video to learn how to set up the desk ergonomically, it turns out that I did follow all the steps :))
Had this in "watch later" for like a year, I just now watched and applied it, my desk looks a lil weird but hopefully my neck stiffness will decrease. Thanks!
Excellent advice, good video, very concise and to the point .... I have a gadget that would be beneficial, it is called The Mouse Cradle, I have a video on KZclip, (it is a hand/wrist rest for using a computer mouse and a numeric keypad .... it is the best thing on the market
Thank You Jon, You just solved the biggest problem of my life
Work desk not setup properly
Reams of Paper: I'm gonna make this mans whole career ergonomic
I usually hate when people use outdated memes, but I like the way you took this tired joke and made it fresh. Good job.
@Aaron Churchhill Don't like like it get out
i hate the mindless drone humor that’s “funny” today
@Floosh wooosh
Joke doesn't make sense
Uha, knew the Feng Shui mentioned to set things such as phones on the left but didn't know the ergonomics behind... And thank you for sharing these tips. Was trying to arrange the second screen and wondering what's the right setting as I feel the current setting is not comfortable after being in the position for a while... Thank you so much! Wish I found this video earlier!
Tip: using a curved monitor can prevent eye strain, most ultrawide monitors have curved screen so your eyes are good and also better if you are multitasking.
An adjustable standing desk to alternate between seating and standing times is advisable as well.