@Robert Palatsky Is that the experience of watching characters that don't make sense doing stupid things for no good reason? He's hit it out of the park, then.
Besides, I'm sure the plot/storylines will get better with each movie. It not like Harry Potter where each movie has an individual plot. The series is like an onion, and you peal back a layer with each movie, at least that's what I'm choosing to believe, for now.
@brandovlogs You're seriously comparing this trash to *any* Kurosawa movie? A movie about how the humans (booo! hisss!) have been defeated by primitives with spears (hoorah!) so they...resurrect the moron who screwed up and ask him to lead a second attack? And where humans have to use incredibly expensive avatars to survive on the planet/moon but one kid can manage it for years with a simple face mask? There's bad plotting and then there's completely breaking your own internal consistency and logic. If all you want is pretty pictures, go to an art gallery. Or, you know, the mountains.
@brandovlogs I can also give to you one of the greatest movies of all time that holds itself by only the plot which is “12 Angry Men”. That movie is 98% set on a single room, yet it’s magnificent story makes it one of the greatest ever made.
Wish I could say the same lmao. I forgot to bring my glasses with me, I don't need them but 3d movies are a lot harder to see without them. I brought my 3d contacts, but forgot my actual glasses haha.
@Faliat there’s a regional theater chain in my area and they have a premium format called EMAX. It has 4K projection and Dolby atmos sound and supports 3D so I got to see it in that and yeah it was awesome
You need to see it in Dolby 3D I loved seeing it in both but my god watching in in the Dolby was like seeing it for the first time all over again... And that was the 4th time!
After working on 3D animation as a hobby for years I learnt how to identify and recognize many 3D and VFX techniques on animation and movies, always taking away my immersion to the media, but watching this movie I could never notice anything out of place, everything is so well done and it really feels like you're watching something real, everything makes sense visually and feels natural
This movie doesn’t feel like 3 hours because it’s so immersive. I was always so captivated by the performances, especially from the general, every scene he was in, I was always so invested. James Cameron knows what he’s doing.
Oh it will feel like 3 h when you buy a 1.5 l cola and drink it in the first half so that you sit with a full bladder waiting or it to end bc you need to run. 😂😂😂
As a painter myself, I know how intimidating or challenging water can be to replicate. I imagine its the same deal for the CGI world, and when I watched this I was actually blown away by how good the water looked. I actually can't believe they finally solved how to animate water.
@ZzzZzz if you want it to look real, animating it would be WAY too complicated. Think about how a wave bumps into the side of it's container and bounces back, creating new shapes and interacting with other waves. Or how any object moving in the water will generate new waves and interact with old ones. Water will stick to the object too. You can art direct the simulation, but it's not quite the same concept as traditional animation. Ocean waves are most often simulated with Fast Fourier Transform algorithm (FFT)
It is the first that is actually real looking. There is a ton of propriatory tech in there that studios will struggle to recreate. Weta in this regard is a titan. They can do the stuff Disney/Pixar does, where basically they have the money and time to throw at problems in a way no other post production studio in the world can. This is why they are revolutionary. The film studios pay them to be so. They dont for the majority.
The movie was gorgeous. I did not want the underwater scenes to end. I actually went a second time. People, go experience this in theaters please. It really is an experience.
I’ve got high expectations when it comes to movies if Avatar is at least 8.5 out of 10 I will watch it but if that’s based on your opinion then I’ll have to pass
James Cameron is one of a kind. Not only is he a great filmmaker and storyteller but he has something extremely rare, innovator mentality. Basically “it doesn’t exist yet, then let’s make it.” Truly an icon.
@LeHorn James If you want to have a movie that appeals to the largest possible audience, you kinda gotta stick to tried and true plot formats. This is typical hero’s journey, but that was entire beside the point of the avatar movie line. I don’t know how you people can’t get this through your heads
I saw Avatar in 4D yesterday (watching 3d with moving chairs, droplets, smoke, and air). I almost cried multiple times because of the flawless cinematography and immersion. Truly an unforgettable experience.
@GGdk Not really. It's all timed so amazingly with this movie, that it made it feel more real. they also had smoke and bubbles to really make it seem like we were in the film with the characters
Doesn't the "4D" reduce the immersion? Because everytime your chair moves, or water flies into your face, you are reminded that you're just in a cinema?
I hope this video trends. Fascinating video just like all your others. What a beautiful explanation of Cameron's passion. I so much respect his love for the underwater, and he even gifted us this treasure of an homage to it.
Yep it's a good description. Although they called it that 13 years ago too. And both Cameron and Andy Serkis lied a lot about the whole thing as well so y'know, swings and roundabouts in terms of the semantics!
The main reason I wanted to see Avatar 2 was because of the visuals. The water scenes wear easy the best part because its just so beautiful and realistic. The VFX team and the motion capture team and whoever else was involved in this part deserve so much praise.
While the water scenes in Avatar 2 are undoubtedly gorgeous and incredible, I do want to say how amazed I was when I found out the water scene in Avatar 1 WASN’T done in water. Obviously if you compare them side to side you’ll notice differences, but I’ve seen the first movie a few times now and I honestly would’ve never noticed. Incredible acting to pull that off, too.
Not only can the cameraman run really fast but the camera man can hold his breath long really really good for those intense scenes of the actor trying to get oxygen, perfect evolution of the cameraman.
Just watched it and I have to say it was absolute fantastic. The depictions of Polynesian/ Māori tribal people in reference to those water beings is what stood out to me the most. Also the emotions shown by the actors when they had the death scene actually brought tears to my eyes. What else can i say but this movie is worth every minute of it, definitely waiting on the 3rd sequel in future
James Cameron, as well respected as he is, will be regarded even more highly a century from now I think. Once the dust settles, once the generation of salty/jealous haters dies out, his legacy will march on. What he does, the effort and dedication he shows to creating these experiences, is unrivalled. The guy’s a film-making genius.
@LeHorn James Criticising someone JUST for putting lots of effort into a project is, I’d say, most certainly a (weird) form of hating. Surely reserving judgement until the film is released and viewed is the way to go. Otherwise it’s blind criticism of someone’s strong work ethic. Very bizarre.
I definitely enjoyed this movie more than my kids, first hour was just being in awe of the vfx, then I got totally immersed and didn't think of it anymore, just soaked up the beauty. Sure, the story may have flaws, but damn, this was the most fantastic thing I've seen in years!!
This was well edited. Really smooth from start to finish. No bloat, no unnecessary commentary. And still hit past the 10 minute mark. Can say I'm impressed. Quality content.
It's hard to appreciate how good it looks if you haven't seen it in a true imax theatre, watching clips of the movie now on youtube it doesn't look that impressive but in person this was the most beautiful movie I have ever seen.
Why so blue? You're not in Kansas anymore, you're on Pandora! This is The Way Of Water. Avatar: The Way Of Water is meant to be experienced in the theater no matter the cost and the hype. We all know James Cameron outdid himself again after the original Avatar 13 years ago. Another great video essay!
This video is so well done it gave me goosebumps. So many emotions went through my body throughout the whole thing, this is one of the best reviews (if you can call it that), that I have ever seen. You did a really good job with with this video!
I had the chance to watch this masterpiece on 3D, and the only thing I can say that it was so immersive, I really felt like I was there to witness everything. Every details fills my field of views.
I was genuinely blown away by how utterly incredible the water was rendered throughout the movie. Everything felt so fluid and alive. And i love when great movie producers pushes the boundaries of whats possible with new, self made software, opening up near endless possibilities.
I saw this movie in 3D on opening night and it was truly something else. An immersive experience feels like an understatement to describe this film; almost felt like I was on Pandora.
This guy Cameron just keeps breaking the mold of what cinema making is. He keeps coming out with new and exciting ways to film and always makes them look so real you feel like you're there in that world. Remember when thousands of people had that Avatar Depression after watching the first film? They literally hated when the movie ended and they had to go back to the world we live in and made them depressed. That is how movie making should be.
This was so beautifully presented and it really puts into perspective how much work has gone into the production of this film. I literally had tears in my eyes. Thank you for sharing!
Watching it on imax 3d was a breathtaking experience, I have decided to watch all films in imax, especially Cameron's movies. We can really see his passion,hardwork and vision in this movie, he has all my appreciation.
James Cameron is just on a fliting OTHER LEVEL, when the man says he will blow your mind............he ALWAYS DELIVER, this is why he take his damn time crafting the best possible experience, no matter how long it takes, always looking ahead in time, More artist should learn from Cameron. The Water in this film is just unreal of how REAL IT FELT.
Watching it in 4DX was truly stunning. If you got the chance to experience it in a near theatre where you live, I would recommend it over standard 3D or IMAX.
Paid $50 to see this in imax 3d with my girl, and I never thought I would be able to justify that... I’d pay $200 to see it again if I had to. Gonna go again this weekend
50$ for just two Imax 3D tickets? Damn, Cinema in the U.S. is for sure overpriced. I paid 30€ for two tickets in Austria, Europe and those were the most expensive cinema tickets i ever bought. 1$ has pretty much the same worth as 1€. I would never pay 25€ just to see a movie one time. Not even for something as visually amazing as Avatar.
After seeing it in 3D in theater I was allready pretty sure they changed frame rates between scences because the action scenes had kind of a "cut scene" vibe to me that is often associated with 48-60 fps. I thought I was imagining things but I am happy I got it right :) Thanks for the great breakdown! Edit: I also find it facinating what they did to the facial skin (I think its suburface scattering) interaction with light underwater. They perfectly nailed how faces look smoother underwater (e.g. 10:50 in the video). Does this effect result from the refractive index of skin and water beeing fairly close to each other (in compairson to skin and air?). Never really thought about that until now?
Saw it last night and loved it. My only gripe was the switch between frame rates. This was something very obvious to me as to my perspective the frame rate dropped so many times throughout the film it felt like claymation. The person I saw it with, who is a non gamer and unaware of framerates and picture quality differences, said it was buttery smooth for them the whole time, but I definetly definetly noticed it switching back and forth.
@virtual ghetto Movement of everything goes from super smooth to super choppy, kind of like when a game starts to lag. I wouldn't know how else to explain it. If you watch a youtube video with 1080p 60fps for a minute or so, to get your eyes used to it, and then switch to the 720p option (which will be 30fps) you can probably tell the difference too. For me it's like night and day.
Same here, I thought way more people would notice. The framerate switching kept throwing me out of the experience because I noticed it every single time it switched, even when I was actively trying to ignore it. And damn did it switch often. I *really* hope movies don't continue doing this and just settle for one rate for the whole movie. I had no problems with the Hobbit looking so smooth because when it doesn't switch, I just get used to it really quickly.
It's definitely cool technology. Massive respect for the work that went into that. Really makes me wish the writing was up to the same standard. At the end of the day, I'll watch something incredibly pretty once, maybe twice. But a well-crafted story? One that rewards you with more detail the closer you pay attention. One that doesn't leave you wondering where the giant fish army went? There's is no end to how often I'll enjoy rewatching it.
This video is amazing. The music combined with the scenes in the background plus a very nice voice makes this a great, informative and an enjoyable video to watch. Definitely deserves more attention.
this is genuinely one of the most immersive movies i've ever seen, so much so to the point where up until now the thought of how it was filmed never came up on my mind because i just thought that they really filmed it like how it is in the movie.
His passion for a movie is beyond words. Let's hope that the rest will learn finally and very quickly from it. This is what we want to see. Not woke agendas in mediocre movies, but a movie made for fans a lovers of a good old movie worth not one but 2 cinema visits and buying a blu-ray as soon as it comes out 😉
While the story/screenplay probably won't garner any awards Way of Water's visuals melted my brain. Easily the most stunning film I've ever seen after the first Avatar, which I've watched at least once a year over the past 13 years. It would be an absolute travesty if this film doesn't win an Oscar for best FX. Outstanding breakdown and I can't wait to watch for a 3rd time when it's eventually available on home video.
"The way of water" is a legendary movie and definitely a great reference for upcoming filmmakers' way of filmmaking. and this video editing and presentation are flawless. Good work Du Cinema
really good video ! Good job man ! the edit is really good and the researches you did are really accurate because as a starting 3d artist and a big Avatar fan (it comes together lol, because of the big deal those movies reprensent for the 3d work), you had the most important infos about Avatar which is great ! good job again and keep the good work ;)
After how difficult the production of the abyss was, Im still surprised James Cameron is willing to work with water so much. Guess it goes to show that if you really love something you’re willing to put up with its shortcomings.
The movie was absolutely amazing. When I go to see a sequel, I don't expect to be mindblown as I was when I saw the original, because I figure I know what to expect. The fact that I was so enthralled, blown away and transported to this world all over again is a testament to Cameron's wizardry. All the emotions.
I absolutely loved this masterpiece of a movie. So well done with so many emotions. It deserves all of the hype and credit, and I honestly hope it surpasses the original to become the highest grossing film ever, because it deserves it.
OH SO THE FRAMES WERE CHANGING! While I was in the theatre I felt like some scenes (The faster ones) had a faster FPS while some others were shot on 24FPS, I asked my sister and she said she didn't notice it. Wild Also the rest of this work was incredible, I couldn't find any flaws on the VFX!
I was a little worried this film would disappoint but it was awesome. Honestly the best move experience I've ever had. The worst feeling is spending money on something and feeling like you either overpaid or wasted your money. I promise, if you go see this movie in theaters in 3D, you will not regret it.
The movie was exactly what i was hoping for. I knew that its gonna be hard to top the first, you cant invent the wheel twice and we knew its gonna be humans vs pandorans again so all i hoped for was a beautiful immersive experience and some nice action scenes thats just genuinly nice to watch and they delivered. The 3rd one has a chance to be even greater because they got a good plot hook with the military guy and his son, theres space for character development and surprises. I love it.
Lets appreciate James Cameron for that master piece first, and now my brother, i wanna appreciate you! You have done a really good job at writing this video... You are awesome my brotha.. ❤️
Amazing. They re-engineered water-simulations. Just WOW. Like think about how complicated it is to create anything even remotely realistic in a 3d program. And then multiply that by 10. This is truly ground-breaking and incredible work. Would love to see more about the actual water-simulation and how they accomplish it.
Enjoyed the visuals, simply stunning, and admire all the hard work behind it. Best thing about the movie. Was a drag to watch one kid get in trouble after the other throughout the entire movie.
Avatar 2 foi a melhor experiência cinematográfica que já vi, a melhor que existe, o melhor 3D de todos, as imagens, a qualidade, o som, os efeitos, a trama a história, a experiência toda é incrível, vale muito apena ver no cinema, assistam no cinema em 3D, é maravilhoso!!! já faz dias que assisti e esse filme não sai da minha cabeça, o dia todo fico lembrando da experiência surreal e incrível que vivi com Avatar.
I realy loved the movie and mostly all in it. The only thing that was buggling me was the switching from 24 to 48 fps (motion grading). It almost drove me crazy, it looks cheaper with 48 fps... I dont get it that people dont recognice the switching. Its like someone is punching you in your face and you cant feel that XD
That's interesting, reminds me of the (small-ish) subset people who have issues with 3D and headaches or similar. Perhaps a small subset of people find motion grading too obvious and obnoxious even if most adapt to it. 3D tech engineers work to reduce the bad side-effects, I assume motion grading will be improved too. I'd never heard of it being used until now, but it seems brilliant, even if 48fps seems technically "better," clearly it looks wierd to viewers, if you can control motion in a live action movie in the same way animators can choose to use different frame rates even for different layers in the same scene, that opens up a whole world of possibilities. In the end though, as you exemplify, the technical aspects must serve the perceptive aspects. It's like JPEG, where a model of human visual perception is used in the standard to select which information is worth keeping about an image and which isn't. Otherwise what's the point. So I imagine further developments in the motion grading techniques are sure to come, to better serve the viewers' perception, specially those like you who find it "intrusive."
I had doubts whether James Cameron could revolutionize CG the same way he did in the first Avatar since CG has been done ad nauseam in cinema for the past decade. But once again he doesn't disappoint finding new ways to make his films some of the most immersive experiences I have seen.
I still remember how cool, impressive and outstanding T2 was, I never forgot the reaction of the crowd around me. Only Jim Cameron have this capacity. Will be a long wait to see those 3 remain Avatar movies... but will worth, that's for sure.
This video has made me wanna see this movie really bad. Your editing was amazing and the way you presented this information was perfect. I will be seeing this movie soon
One thing that I find interesting is that JC had all the actors and even cameramen and staff hold their breath underwater. I think this was in part to improve the feeling for the underwater scenes in the movie, since a lot of this could have been shot with a two hose rebreather or surface based scuba equipment. Essentially this means you dont blow bubbles into the water when using those, so no distortion of the images and hoses and small rebreather machines could be edited out just as the motion caputre suits would be - and for the staff that would have been even less relevant
Changing the FPS in film is also a technique used alot in anime, many use as minimal frames as possible for basic scenes but the 30 or 60 to show more movement.
So true in all your said! Especially the problem solving of James Cameron that advances not only his films but others! I saw it once in movie theatres and the story seemed a little off but the technology behind it was amazing! The water scenes, the language (including sign language), the culture and the differences between tribes (including physical differences).
I've played so many video games (probably too many actually) that the change back and forth in fps was rather obvious to me. it is the only part of an essentially flawless experience that took me out of it. it didn't destroy the experience, far from it, but every now and then I noticed the change and was reminded that I am only watching a movie
when the movie started in 3d imax i kinda waited for that moment of jarring 3d and having to get used to it. The 3d they did for way of water is some of the most natural looking i've ever seen. They didnt really do any gimmicky object flying through the screen but instead just added depth to the world. really good stuff technologically
I saw this in Dolby 3D and it completely changed the way I look at 3D cinema now. There was an audible gasp in the audience on release day at the sheer quality of the 3D and the graphics themselves. I noticed the change in framerate, which honestly felt a bit strange at first but it was placed well and it was used in a way which didn't feel overly intrusive
I did have more enjoyment of Puss in Boots 2 than The Way of Water. I love animation and that animated movie uses the artstyle that I love a lot more than realism. But I do have to give Avatar credit, rewatching the scenes in this video made me remember how beautiful it was, despite the pain and suffering shown. Mom and I will definitely be watching the sequels.
Besides the issue with bubbles, I think the overriding problem is that having a mouthpiece will get in the way of face acting. I think that crew could use rebreather or dual-hose systems, though. At the very least, the safety specialists that watch out for problems and rescue the actors who black out, ought to have long-duration rebreathers.
my first thought also was, why didn't the crew use rebreathers? As for the actors rebreathers would be bad, because you move differently if you have to conserve oxygen. also they give you different aerodynamics and different mass and center of gravity.
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I saw it in theaters and I’ve got to say the underwater scenes were the most immersive scenes I’ve ever seen in a movie
agreed.
@Capalot mine only had 3D :( well thats something tho
@Qoben yes it’s like 20$ moving seats spraying water and 3d
@Capalot wtf moving seats exist?
@Capalot yooo rly nice
James Cameron is a legend. Him and his team revolutionized the use of CG in cinema.
@Robert Palatsky Is that the experience of watching characters that don't make sense doing stupid things for no good reason? He's hit it out of the park, then.
Besides, I'm sure the plot/storylines will get better with each movie. It not like Harry Potter where each movie has an individual plot. The series is like an onion, and you peal back a layer with each movie, at least that's what I'm choosing to believe, for now.
@K X Anyone who complains about the plot is missing the point. James is trying to create AN EXPERIENCE.
@brandovlogs You're seriously comparing this trash to *any* Kurosawa movie? A movie about how the humans (booo! hisss!) have been defeated by primitives with spears (hoorah!) so they...resurrect the moron who screwed up and ask him to lead a second attack? And where humans have to use incredibly expensive avatars to survive on the planet/moon but one kid can manage it for years with a simple face mask?
There's bad plotting and then there's completely breaking your own internal consistency and logic.
If all you want is pretty pictures, go to an art gallery. Or, you know, the mountains.
@brandovlogs I can also give to you one of the greatest movies of all time that holds itself by only the plot which is “12 Angry Men”. That movie is 98% set on a single room, yet it’s magnificent story makes it one of the greatest ever made.
Watching this movie in imax 3D was truly unreal. It really felt like you were there on a real planet under real water with these characters
unless you notice the horrific variable framerate changing back and forth mid fight scenes it looked like stuttering from a game
bro the movie in 3d was so gooooood
Wish I could say the same lmao. I forgot to bring my glasses with me, I don't need them but 3d movies are a lot harder to see without them. I brought my 3d contacts, but forgot my actual glasses haha.
@Faliat there’s a regional theater chain in my area and they have a premium format called EMAX. It has 4K projection and Dolby atmos sound and supports 3D so I got to see it in that and yeah it was awesome
You need to see it in Dolby 3D I loved seeing it in both but my god watching in in the Dolby was like seeing it for the first time all over again... And that was the 4th time!
After working on 3D animation as a hobby for years I learnt how to identify and recognize many 3D and VFX techniques on animation and movies, always taking away my immersion to the media, but watching this movie I could never notice anything out of place, everything is so well done and it really feels like you're watching something real, everything makes sense visually and feels natural
I legitimately dont get this, I noticed the framerate changes CONSTANTLY.
Yeah, the only thing I noticed is the whale creature wasn’t high poly enough, you could see some faces when it was a close up shot
tf u mean? the framerate was all over the place
there were some bad CGI scenes/elements
This movie doesn’t feel like 3 hours because it’s so immersive. I was always so captivated by the performances, especially from the general, every scene he was in, I was always so invested. James Cameron knows what he’s doing.
it felt like 30 mins for me.
@21 views No it didnt feel like 3 hours
but it felt like 3 hours
Oh it will feel like 3 h when you buy a 1.5 l cola and drink it in the first half so that you sit with a full bladder waiting or it to end bc you need to run. 😂😂😂
As a painter myself, I know how intimidating or challenging water can be to replicate. I imagine its the same deal for the CGI world, and when I watched this I was actually blown away by how good the water looked. I actually can't believe they finally solved how to animate water.
@babaganoush now show us how to simulate water.
@ZzzZzz if you want it to look real, animating it would be WAY too complicated.
Think about how a wave bumps into the side of it's container and bounces back, creating new shapes and interacting with other waves.
Or how any object moving in the water will generate new waves and interact with old ones. Water will stick to the object too.
You can art direct the simulation, but it's not quite the same concept as traditional animation.
Ocean waves are most often simulated with Fast Fourier Transform algorithm (FFT)
@babaganoushwhy cant you animate water?
It is the first that is actually real looking.
There is a ton of propriatory tech in there that studios will struggle to recreate.
Weta in this regard is a titan. They can do the stuff Disney/Pixar does, where basically they have the money and time to throw at problems in a way no other post production studio in the world can.
This is why they are revolutionary. The film studios pay them to be so. They dont for the majority.
The movie was gorgeous. I did not want the underwater scenes to end. I actually went a second time. People, go experience this in theaters please. It really is an experience.
@El mas chimbayou are a movie snob 😂😂
I’ve got high expectations when it comes to movies if Avatar is at least 8.5 out of 10 I will watch it but if that’s based on your opinion then I’ll have to pass
@Planetfoot I hope you dont mean the moving chairs and water in the face hahah ;)
In a 4dx theaters with 3d glasses is the best fr
James Cameron is one of a kind. Not only is he a great filmmaker and storyteller but he has something extremely rare, innovator mentality. Basically “it doesn’t exist yet, then let’s make it.” Truly an icon.
@LeHorn James If you want to have a movie that appeals to the largest possible audience, you kinda gotta stick to tried and true plot formats. This is typical hero’s journey, but that was entire beside the point of the avatar movie line. I don’t know how you people can’t get this through your heads
@LeHorn James really? Why do you believe so? No hate. Generally curious
@LeHorn James I’d say he’s at least above average by today’s standards.
Great filmmaker and technical innovator? Yeah.
Great storyteller? Nah.
I saw Avatar in 4D yesterday (watching 3d with moving chairs, droplets, smoke, and air). I almost cried multiple times because of the flawless cinematography and immersion. Truly an unforgettable experience.
@GGdk Not really. It's all timed so amazingly with this movie, that it made it feel more real. they also had smoke and bubbles to really make it seem like we were in the film with the characters
Doesn't the "4D" reduce the immersion? Because everytime your chair moves, or water flies into your face, you are reminded that you're just in a cinema?
so you saw it in 3d with theater effects. Not in the 4th dimension
I hope this video trends. Fascinating video just like all your others. What a beautiful explanation of Cameron's passion. I so much respect his love for the underwater, and he even gifted us this treasure of an homage to it.
Thank you so much! I really wanted to make this video because I am a open sea diver myself as well. I could really relate to Cameron's story.
I love that they’re more accurately calling this “performance capture” now since it’s so much more than just motion.
Agree, especially for Zoe!
Yep it's a good description. Although they called it that 13 years ago too. And both Cameron and Andy Serkis lied a lot about the whole thing as well so y'know, swings and roundabouts in terms of the semantics!
The main reason I wanted to see Avatar 2 was because of the visuals. The water scenes wear easy the best part because its just so beautiful and realistic. The VFX team and the motion capture team and whoever else was involved in this part deserve so much praise.
@Stabbity Joe yeah but I couldn’t be asked to
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@Stabbity Joe Probably
Tbh I think this the main reason most people wanted to see avatar 2
While the water scenes in Avatar 2 are undoubtedly gorgeous and incredible, I do want to say how amazed I was when I found out the water scene in Avatar 1 WASN’T done in water. Obviously if you compare them side to side you’ll notice differences, but I’ve seen the first movie a few times now and I honestly would’ve never noticed. Incredible acting to pull that off, too.
SAME. I thought the water in that scene looks realistic enough until I watched Avatar 2.
He did it again, 14 years later I got absolutely blown away by the scope and visuals of the world of Pandora once more!
Oh wow it really has been 14 years…that explains why they made kiri 14
Not only can the cameraman run really fast but the camera man can hold his breath long really really good for those intense scenes of the actor trying to get oxygen, perfect evolution of the cameraman.
The camera man really *blew it out of the water*.
Just watched it and I have to say it was absolute fantastic. The depictions of Polynesian/ Māori tribal people in reference to those water beings is what stood out to me the most. Also the emotions shown by the actors when they had the death scene actually brought tears to my eyes. What else can i say but this movie is worth every minute of it, definitely waiting on the 3rd sequel in future
James Cameron, as well respected as he is, will be regarded even more highly a century from now I think. Once the dust settles, once the generation of salty/jealous haters dies out, his legacy will march on. What he does, the effort and dedication he shows to creating these experiences, is unrivalled. The guy’s a film-making genius.
@LeHorn James Criticising someone JUST for putting lots of effort into a project is, I’d say, most certainly a (weird) form of hating. Surely reserving judgement until the film is released and viewed is the way to go. Otherwise it’s blind criticism of someone’s strong work ethic. Very bizarre.
So criticizing him and/or his work just because he put much effort in it is salty/jealous hating? Lmao
The guy’s a film-making genius.
_Once the dust settles_
that would happen once Twitter goes offline for good.
I definitely enjoyed this movie more than my kids, first hour was just being in awe of the vfx, then I got totally immersed and didn't think of it anymore, just soaked up the beauty. Sure, the story may have flaws, but damn, this was the most fantastic thing I've seen in years!!
This was well edited. Really smooth from start to finish. No bloat, no unnecessary commentary. And still hit past the 10 minute mark. Can say I'm impressed. Quality content.
Really appreciate it man!!
It's hard to appreciate how good it looks if you haven't seen it in a true imax theatre, watching clips of the movie now on youtube it doesn't look that impressive but in person this was the most beautiful movie I have ever seen.
Why so blue? You're not in Kansas anymore, you're on Pandora! This is The Way Of Water. Avatar: The Way Of Water is meant to be experienced in the theater no matter the cost and the hype. We all know James Cameron outdid himself again after the original Avatar 13 years ago. Another great video essay!
nah ill watch it in my comfy home
There was a few chuckles at that line in the theater here in Kansas 😂
"I'll be nice. once. then i wont" hahah. Thanks a lot man 🙏
This video is so well done it gave me goosebumps. So many emotions went through my body throughout the whole thing, this is one of the best reviews (if you can call it that), that I have ever seen. You did a really good job with with this video!
❤️❤️🙏🙏 Thank you so much!
I went in a 4d theater and WOW. I felt all the vibrations and THAT WAS *THE* most immersive movie I have ever seen and heard AND felt!
@James Lewis what?
Boy Howdy Saul 🤙
I just love how early cgi aged pretty okay, and modern cgi ages very very poorly and now say what you want Avatar II looks amazing.
@Piotr Montgomery TV yup looks like molten plastic on clay or something like that.
@Ryan Denziloe Hobbit = worst CGI
No, bad CGI ages poorly. The original Avatar still looks great. Modern Marvel CGI is often bad on day one.
The ending with the background music and Jake opening his eyes gave me shivers. Thanks for the informative video.
So awesome to hear 🙏🙏
I had the chance to watch this masterpiece on 3D, and the only thing I can say that it was so immersive, I really felt like I was there to witness everything. Every details fills my field of views.
This is MIND BLOWING. Can't believe Cameron was able to pull it off a second time, with verrrrrry significant improvements to the first.
I was genuinely blown away by how utterly incredible the water was rendered throughout the movie. Everything felt so fluid and alive.
And i love when great movie producers pushes the boundaries of whats possible with new, self made software, opening up near endless possibilities.
Its just INSANE how great the Visuals in this movie are
I saw this movie in 3D on opening night and it was truly something else. An immersive experience feels like an understatement to describe this film; almost felt like I was on Pandora.
This movie deserves every award, every milestone, and every bit of praise for its groundbreaking cinematography, performance capture, and animation!
This guy Cameron just keeps breaking the mold of what cinema making is. He keeps coming out with new and exciting ways to film and always makes them look so real you feel like you're there in that world. Remember when thousands of people had that Avatar Depression after watching the first film? They literally hated when the movie ended and they had to go back to the world we live in and made them depressed. That is how movie making should be.
Cameron especially stands out when the rest of Hollywood is waging a war against the very notion of competence.
This was so beautifully presented and it really puts into perspective how much work has gone into the production of this film. I literally had tears in my eyes. Thank you for sharing!
Watching it on imax 3d was a breathtaking experience, I have decided to watch all films in imax, especially Cameron's movies. We can really see his passion,hardwork and vision in this movie, he has all my appreciation.
James Cameron is just on a fliting OTHER LEVEL, when the man says he will blow your mind............he ALWAYS DELIVER, this is why he take his damn time crafting the best possible experience, no matter how long it takes, always looking ahead in time, More artist should learn from Cameron. The Water in this film is just unreal of how REAL IT FELT.
Watching it in 4DX was truly stunning. If you got the chance to experience it in a near theatre where you live, I would recommend it over standard 3D or IMAX.
Paid $50 to see this in imax 3d with my girl, and I never thought I would be able to justify that... I’d pay $200 to see it again if I had to. Gonna go again this weekend
Yeah it’s better to be poor in Europe
50$ for just two Imax 3D tickets? Damn, Cinema in the U.S. is for sure overpriced. I paid 30€ for two tickets in Austria, Europe and those were the most expensive cinema tickets i ever bought. 1$ has pretty much the same worth as 1€. I would never pay 25€ just to see a movie one time. Not even for something as visually amazing as Avatar.
Cameron is probably the best director when it comes to mixing cgi and practical effects.
As a diver myself the underwater scenes made me really feel underwater.
same here, so awesome!
After seeing it in 3D in theater I was allready pretty sure they changed frame rates between scences because the action scenes had kind of a "cut scene" vibe to me that is often associated with 48-60 fps. I thought I was imagining things but I am happy I got it right :) Thanks for the great breakdown!
Edit: I also find it facinating what they did to the facial skin (I think its suburface scattering) interaction with light underwater. They perfectly nailed how faces look smoother underwater (e.g. 10:50 in the video). Does this effect result from the refractive index of skin and water beeing fairly close to each other (in compairson to skin and air?). Never really thought about that until now?
Saw it last night and loved it. My only gripe was the switch between frame rates. This was something very obvious to me as to my perspective the frame rate dropped so many times throughout the film it felt like claymation. The person I saw it with, who is a non gamer and unaware of framerates and picture quality differences, said it was buttery smooth for them the whole time, but I definetly definetly noticed it switching back and forth.
@James Lewis It switches between 24fps and 48fps. None of it is 60fps.
@virtual ghetto Movement of everything goes from super smooth to super choppy, kind of like when a game starts to lag. I wouldn't know how else to explain it.
If you watch a youtube video with 1080p 60fps for a minute or so, to get your eyes used to it, and then switch to the 720p option (which will be 30fps) you can probably tell the difference too. For me it's like night and day.
can someone explain to me, in the simplest of therms how can you tell the difference?
Same here, I thought way more people would notice. The framerate switching kept throwing me out of the experience because I noticed it every single time it switched, even when I was actively trying to ignore it. And damn did it switch often. I *really* hope movies don't continue doing this and just settle for one rate for the whole movie. I had no problems with the Hobbit looking so smooth because when it doesn't switch, I just get used to it really quickly.
@Antom dont think there is any 24 Antom, 48 n 60
4:50 - They basically did the Wim Hof method in order to make this movie perfect. Love it!
The caustics in the underwater scenes are really beautiful and realistic.
But it is also hard to render caustics.
Not at WetaFX it isn't.
This video had my attention more than pretty much every other video ever. There wasen't even a point where it got boring. Beautifully made.
just imagine how cool was for the actors to record that scenes
It's definitely cool technology. Massive respect for the work that went into that. Really makes me wish the writing was up to the same standard. At the end of the day, I'll watch something incredibly pretty once, maybe twice. But a well-crafted story? One that rewards you with more detail the closer you pay attention. One that doesn't leave you wondering where the giant fish army went? There's is no end to how often I'll enjoy rewatching it.
This video is amazing. The music combined with the scenes in the background plus a very nice voice makes this a great, informative and an enjoyable video to watch. Definitely deserves more attention.
Thank you very much!
this is genuinely one of the most immersive movies i've ever seen, so much so to the point where up until now the thought of how it was filmed never came up on my mind because i just thought that they really filmed it like how it is in the movie.
His passion for a movie is beyond words. Let's hope that the rest will learn finally and very quickly from it. This is what we want to see. Not woke agendas in mediocre movies, but a movie made for fans a lovers of a good old movie worth not one but 2 cinema visits and buying a blu-ray as soon as it comes out 😉
I saw this movie in 4D and it was an absolutely amazing experience. The visuals, colors, characters and just everything was amazing !
4D is such a funny marketing name. And what is 5D? With smells? And with temperature changes it's 6D?
While the story/screenplay probably won't garner any awards Way of Water's visuals melted my brain. Easily the most stunning film I've ever seen after the first Avatar, which I've watched at least once a year over the past 13 years. It would be an absolute travesty if this film doesn't win an Oscar for best FX.
Outstanding breakdown and I can't wait to watch for a 3rd time when it's eventually available on home video.
"The way of water" is a legendary movie and definitely a great reference for upcoming filmmakers' way of filmmaking. and this video editing and presentation are flawless. Good work Du Cinema
really good video ! Good job man ! the edit is really good and the researches you did are really accurate because as a starting 3d artist and a big Avatar fan (it comes together lol, because of the big deal those movies reprensent for the 3d work), you had the most important infos about Avatar which is great !
good job again and keep the good work ;)
Thank you so much man 🙏🙏
thought the first movie changed the game but THIS. this movie is one of the most incredible things i’ve ever seen visually. james cameron is a GOAT
james cameron is THE GOAT
After how difficult the production of the abyss was, Im still surprised James Cameron is willing to work with water so much. Guess it goes to show that if you really love something you’re willing to put up with its shortcomings.
The movie was absolutely amazing. When I go to see a sequel, I don't expect to be mindblown as I was when I saw the original, because I figure I know what to expect. The fact that I was so enthralled, blown away and transported to this world all over again is a testament to Cameron's wizardry. All the emotions.
This James Cameron dude is an absolute legend.
This is absolutely amazing and THIS IS ONLY THE 2ND ONE OUT OF 5!!!! Can you imagine what James will do with the rest?
@Fayaz Creations nope it will be December 20th 2024
Do I have to wait 13 years for avatar 3?
I absolutely loved this masterpiece of a movie. So well done with so many emotions. It deserves all of the hype and credit, and I honestly hope it surpasses the original to become the highest grossing film ever, because it deserves it.
OH SO THE FRAMES WERE CHANGING! While I was in the theatre I felt like some scenes (The faster ones) had a faster FPS while some others were shot on 24FPS, I asked my sister and she said she didn't notice it. Wild
Also the rest of this work was incredible, I couldn't find any flaws on the VFX!
I was a little worried this film would disappoint but it was awesome. Honestly the best move experience I've ever had. The worst feeling is spending money on something and feeling like you either overpaid or wasted your money. I promise, if you go see this movie in theaters in 3D, you will not regret it.
The movie was exactly what i was hoping for. I knew that its gonna be hard to top the first, you cant invent the wheel twice and we knew its gonna be humans vs pandorans again so all i hoped for was a beautiful immersive experience and some nice action scenes thats just genuinly nice to watch and they delivered. The 3rd one has a chance to be even greater because they got a good plot hook with the military guy and his son, theres space for character development and surprises. I love it.
Lets appreciate James Cameron for that master piece first, and now my brother, i wanna appreciate you! You have done a really good job at writing this video... You are awesome my brotha.. ❤️
Thanks so much for the awesome words!
Amazing. They re-engineered water-simulations. Just WOW. Like think about how complicated it is to create anything even remotely realistic in a 3d program. And then multiply that by 10. This is truly ground-breaking and incredible work. Would love to see more about the actual water-simulation and how they accomplish it.
Enjoyed the visuals, simply stunning, and admire all the hard work behind it. Best thing about the movie.
Was a drag to watch one kid get in trouble after the other throughout the entire movie.
I went to theaters a day after it was released, literally the most memorizing and magical movie I've ever seen.
Zoe is such an amazing actress. I could watch her performance capture alone and be enthralled.
I watched it on Imax 3d and the difference between the 24fps and 48fps were very noticeable to me. Very impressive!
Cameron is literally genius. Genius. And wealthy enough to afford all this creativity lol
Avatar 2 foi a melhor experiência cinematográfica que já vi, a melhor que existe, o melhor 3D de todos, as imagens, a qualidade, o som, os efeitos, a trama a história, a experiência toda é incrível, vale muito apena ver no cinema, assistam no cinema em 3D, é maravilhoso!!! já faz dias que assisti e esse filme não sai da minha cabeça, o dia todo fico lembrando da experiência surreal e incrível que vivi com Avatar.
If they spend as much effort on the actual story, this could've been the greatest movie ever.
I realy loved the movie and mostly all in it. The only thing that was buggling me was the switching from 24 to 48 fps (motion grading). It almost drove me crazy, it looks cheaper with 48 fps... I dont get it that people dont recognice the switching. Its like someone is punching you in your face and you cant feel that XD
That's interesting, reminds me of the (small-ish) subset people who have issues with 3D and headaches or similar. Perhaps a small subset of people find motion grading too obvious and obnoxious even if most adapt to it. 3D tech engineers work to reduce the bad side-effects, I assume motion grading will be improved too. I'd never heard of it being used until now, but it seems brilliant, even if 48fps seems technically "better," clearly it looks wierd to viewers, if you can control motion in a live action movie in the same way animators can choose to use different frame rates even for different layers in the same scene, that opens up a whole world of possibilities.
In the end though, as you exemplify, the technical aspects must serve the perceptive aspects. It's like JPEG, where a model of human visual perception is used in the standard to select which information is worth keeping about an image and which isn't. Otherwise what's the point. So I imagine further developments in the motion grading techniques are sure to come, to better serve the viewers' perception, specially those like you who find it "intrusive."
The video editing is so good . Keep up the work !
James Cameron is a freaking legend any which way you look at it. We are blessed to live in a time where we get to witness his creativity first hand.
I had doubts whether James Cameron could revolutionize CG the same way he did in the first Avatar since CG has been done ad nauseam in cinema for the past decade. But once again he doesn't disappoint finding new ways to make his films some of the most immersive experiences I have seen.
James cameron literally just uses movies as an excuse to play with expensive toys and we all love him for it
When someone decides to cross the limits. This are the results they get! 💙💙
Cameron isnt liked by everyone, but he is a LEGEND of the film industry
I still remember how cool, impressive and outstanding T2 was, I never forgot the reaction of the crowd around me.
Only Jim Cameron have this capacity.
Will be a long wait to see those 3 remain Avatar movies... but will worth, that's for sure.
Imagine if they could make some sort of vr headset for the actors to actually be able to see the environment when acting.
This video has made me wanna see this movie really bad. Your editing was amazing and the way you presented this information was perfect. I will be seeing this movie soon
So awesome to hear!!
One thing that I find interesting is that JC had all the actors and even cameramen and staff hold their breath underwater. I think this was in part to improve the feeling for the underwater scenes in the movie, since a lot of this could have been shot with a two hose rebreather or surface based scuba equipment. Essentially this means you dont blow bubbles into the water when using those, so no distortion of the images and hoses and small rebreather machines could be edited out just as the motion caputre suits would be - and for the staff that would have been even less relevant
Changing the FPS in film is also a technique used alot in anime, many use as minimal frames as possible for basic scenes but the 30 or 60 to show more movement.
Incredible breakdown! Very well done brother.
That was such a well crafted video, thank you for making it.
Really appreciate it 🙏🙏
So true in all your said! Especially the problem solving of James Cameron that advances not only his films but others! I saw it once in movie theatres and the story seemed a little off but the technology behind it was amazing! The water scenes, the language (including sign language), the culture and the differences between tribes (including physical differences).
Cameron is renowned for his technological advancements, but what an amazing director to extract these top-notch performances.
Duuuude, shooting scenes while holding your breathe underwater is some intense shiiiiit, props to those actors/performers!! Hope they made bank!
They deserve Oscar, specially Zoe her acting is phenomenal
i feel like avatar broke the bad streak of hyped things going bad the movie is really incredible
I've played so many video games (probably too many actually) that the change back and forth in fps was rather obvious to me. it is the only part of an essentially flawless experience that took me out of it. it didn't destroy the experience, far from it, but every now and then I noticed the change and was reminded that I am only watching a movie
when the movie started in 3d imax i kinda waited for that moment of jarring 3d and having to get used to it. The 3d they did for way of water is some of the most natural looking i've ever seen. They didnt really do any gimmicky object flying through the screen but instead just added depth to the world. really good stuff technologically
Insane. Avatar has to be the best movies ever created
thank you for putting this together. this was one of the greatest watches of all time for me
I saw this in Dolby 3D and it completely changed the way I look at 3D cinema now. There was an audible gasp in the audience on release day at the sheer quality of the 3D and the graphics themselves. I noticed the change in framerate, which honestly felt a bit strange at first but it was placed well and it was used in a way which didn't feel overly intrusive
Imagine if the writing of this movie had a 10th the effort as the visuals. It would be a masterpiece
it already is a masterpiece
the movie is literally art every scene is so mesmerizing
I did have more enjoyment of Puss in Boots 2 than The Way of Water. I love animation and that animated movie uses the artstyle that I love a lot more than realism. But I do have to give Avatar credit, rewatching the scenes in this video made me remember how beautiful it was, despite the pain and suffering shown. Mom and I will definitely be watching the sequels.
Besides the issue with bubbles, I think the overriding problem is that having a mouthpiece will get in the way of face acting.
I think that crew could use rebreather or dual-hose systems, though. At the very least, the safety specialists that watch out for problems and rescue the actors who black out, ought to have long-duration rebreathers.
my first thought also was, why didn't the crew use rebreathers? As for the actors rebreathers would be bad, because you move differently if you have to conserve oxygen. also they give you different aerodynamics and different mass and center of gravity.
avatar 2 should win an oscar for great visual effects