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  • Geo_Star
    Geo_Star  Жыл бұрын +537

    I've been playing this game for a year and a half now, still haven't unlocked any vehicles over 10.0! Really loving this endgame, can't wait to finally finish grinding the f4E in 2031

    • Theta Undertone
      Theta Undertone 3 ай бұрын

      Got the f14 yet?

    • Antonio Ložić
      Antonio Ložić 9 ай бұрын

      Ive been playing for 3 and a half years and I only got to the f84b

    • ira Holden
      ira Holden 10 ай бұрын

      @Kyriakos same

    • Mike
      Mike  Жыл бұрын

      I just started playing this game you guys aren't making sound appealing lol. I'll see you in 2038 in my phantom!

    • Osvaldo Romero S.
      Osvaldo Romero S.  Жыл бұрын

      I have played for about 1 and a half year and i have the F100D, it aint that hard

  • Larry Pan
    Larry Pan  Жыл бұрын +560

    I like how all the advantages of every aircraft aren't unlockable until you grind all the modifications

    • Brent Seymour
      Brent Seymour  Жыл бұрын

      I still haven't been able to grind mods for the very first helicopter in the german tech tree. :(

    • your local onboard security officer
      your local onboard security officer  Жыл бұрын

      @David Mayes Bitcoin mining sticks, too (money to buy everything)

    • Liverpool 2102
      Liverpool 2102  Жыл бұрын +2

      @ShaggyGabe well kind of yes. All planes manoeuvre considerably better with the new boosters and fuselage repair upgrades etc.

    • Alexander Francois
      Alexander Francois  Жыл бұрын +3

      @ShaggyGabe or the speed on the F-104, or the vodka of the mig 21

    • ShaggyGabe
      ShaggyGabe  Жыл бұрын +3

      @Rage86 didnt know that they ripped immediately. Thanks for telling me.

  • SoleWind
    SoleWind  Жыл бұрын +720

    "Do you enjoy flying them?"
    No, because the costs are high, and it'll take players years to even start researching one of those.

    • Imperial Enforcer
      Imperial Enforcer  Жыл бұрын

      @Eryk not p2w, but rather pay to progress

    • xX_Insert_cool_username_here_Xx (formerly Alexis)
    • Ekho
      Ekho  Жыл бұрын

      @Just Typical no one asked lol

    • Leo Jennings
      Leo Jennings  Жыл бұрын

      No premium its taken me just about a year to make it to the mig19s in the German tree. It will be 1.5 months, including boosters, before I get the SL to unlock it. I only have German aircraft

    • Splezo
      Splezo  Жыл бұрын +1

      @JimSanour Yeah, I am not using them anymore, I am just using the Premium P51 I got from my friend on my birthday. It is really effective and a really good Silver lions grinder, but yeah.

  • Magmamite
    Magmamite  Жыл бұрын +100

    thx for showing us all the planes that a free to player can’t get without devoting our lives to this game.

    • Gordon Freeman
      Gordon Freeman  Жыл бұрын

      Took 3 months of playing to reach jets for the first time, still f2p, so that's not exactly an accurate comment by any means

    • lorenzo2222ful
      lorenzo2222ful  Жыл бұрын +4

      the extensive grinding is the reason I don't recommend wt to any of my friends, because I know they will play it for 2 or 3 days before uninstalling the game. At the same time, the grinding is what keeps the current player base attached to the game (without new objectives ppl would play just once or twice a week at best. And that's not enough for a f2p game). Whilst I think the grind system should be reworked completely, it would be a risky decision for gaijin. They are comfortable with the actual strategy which just retains military vehicle adepts and doesn't break the nich, sadly.

  • Jamsheed
    Jamsheed  Жыл бұрын +304

    man imagine if Gaijin made the grind less sufferable.
    like imagine, just imagine

    • صوفيا                     Σοφία
      صوفيا Σοφία  Жыл бұрын

      Jhon Lennon said it. He got killed

    • david zavernik
      david zavernik  Жыл бұрын +1

      The grind is the least of problems for me, the real issue is repair cost, since I have to go to 4.7 or less to even get SL

    • Jaiden Lopez
      Jaiden Lopez  Жыл бұрын

      Keep it there

    • AH-64 Apache
      AH-64 Apache  Жыл бұрын

      @Sir Snek i know he didn't mean me 🤦‍♂️

    • Sir Snek
      Sir Snek  Жыл бұрын

      @AH-64 Apache if you look closely you can see the "@luca", which basically means he didnt mean you, but luca

  • Silent Show
    Silent Show  Жыл бұрын +349

    but getting to just 1 of these jets is going to require: 1,5 years of premium time, X amount of GE, X amount of SL, Your soul and The soul of your first unborn child

    • YassuoEUW
      YassuoEUW  Жыл бұрын

      With premium and using a prem tier 5 it took me over a week to start researching tier 6

    • Artic
      Artic  Жыл бұрын

      @marco! nah just be effective

    • marco!
      marco!  Жыл бұрын

      @Artic bs lmao

    • NotAnAbrams
      NotAnAbrams  Жыл бұрын

      I can grind out an entire air tree to supersonic in like a week with a premium jet and premium time. Absolutely fucked, yes, but if you sacrifice your soul and wallet to the snail it's doable comrade))))))))))

    • Planeya
      Planeya  Жыл бұрын

      It took me 1.2 years for entire brit tech tree with no premium and 2.5 h a day. I mostly recommend going for spitfire lf mk 9 and swift f7 to make your grind easier if any1 is grinding brits.

  • Paul Robbins
    Paul Robbins  Жыл бұрын +46

    "Do you enjoy flying them?"
    Yes, F-5E was my go-to jet to have a good time in. I loved flying it. Then you made the repair cost 23k.

    • LXD
      LXD  Жыл бұрын +1

      @Paul Robbins Thats what happens when good players get it early and inflate its stats

    • Paul Robbins
      Paul Robbins  Жыл бұрын +2

      @CovenantSlayer Gaming I made a mistake, max repair is actually 23k, I don't have all modules yet. Yes, they increased repair cost of it. I get that it needed some fixing and re-balancing, but instead they just pump up the repair cost and call it a day.

    • CovenantSlayer Gaming
      CovenantSlayer Gaming  Жыл бұрын +1

      Did they actually? I haven't had much luck with it, but then again I don't have -9J's yet

  • Maximilian Mckai Jenkins-king
    Maximilian Mckai Jenkins-king  Жыл бұрын +684

    'suprisingly cheap'
    is that why it has a 20k repair cost

    • Snoop -a-loop
      Snoop -a-loop  Жыл бұрын

      This is why 6.7 air is the best br. It’s the most populated br. With the most affordable repair costs.

    • kireto fakireto
      kireto fakireto  Жыл бұрын

      Yeah, well, 20K isn't much for the government

    • Max David Yermolaev
      Max David Yermolaev  Жыл бұрын


    • wwlb
      wwlb  Жыл бұрын

      It's not a repair cost, it's a new fighter every time.

    • beeter
      beeter  Жыл бұрын

      Ironic that the aircraft in this game meant to be cheaper and supposedly easier to maintain have a higher repair cost -_-

  • Drew142
    Drew142  Жыл бұрын +395

    We need to lower the rp and sl purchase prices so its possible to get these high tier vehicles without having to grind a month for a single vehicle.

    • Penguins of Madagascar
      Penguins of Madagascar  Жыл бұрын

      @jordawolf took me 2-3 months lol, just play simulator

    • Leo Jennings
      Leo Jennings  Жыл бұрын

      No premium it will take me almost two months to get the SL to get the mig19s

    • Boris The Turtle
      Boris The Turtle  Жыл бұрын +1

      @AussieDogfighter and probably rp rewards aswell

    • AussieDogfighter
      AussieDogfighter  Жыл бұрын +1

      they apparently gonna drop rank 6 jet prices in a month or two

    • Boris The Turtle
      Boris The Turtle  Жыл бұрын +1

      Yeah even after paying money to support the game it doesnt make it significantly easier, I am a pretty good player, and I am currently researching rank 6 and its like a full time job to get 1 of them

  • nbond1612
    nbond1612  Жыл бұрын +346

    Alternate title: aircraft now unreachable without putting money into the game since we "balanced" the RP awards

    • Lucas Moreno
      Lucas Moreno  Жыл бұрын

      @M.V.A.L Pretty sure not everyone that plays WT are from US or EU

    • M.V.A.L
      M.V.A.L  Жыл бұрын

      @Luca I said with the discount. Bought mines for 20

    • M.V.A.L
      M.V.A.L  Жыл бұрын

      @Mobius it's just 20 bucks man. I'm a student. It's a yearly buy and you can have a year fun with it.

    • HungryHedgehog
      HungryHedgehog  Жыл бұрын

      Not even when putting money into it. I put more money into this game than any other and I just got 8.3 in techtree last month or something lol. Even with premium + premium tanks the game is grindy af.

    • Kubilay Salikoğlu
      Kubilay Salikoğlu  Жыл бұрын +1

      See you in 3 days!

  • OnlyrushB
    OnlyrushB  Жыл бұрын +5

    Bruce is like one of those grandads who, even if you don't know what he's talking about, you still can't help but be invested in what he's saying
    keep it up!

  • Elijas
    Elijas  Жыл бұрын +30

    It would be epic if more people could fly those just saying

    • Asthma Sith
      Asthma Sith  Жыл бұрын

      Ikr,I'm a free player and I'm only at 5.7😔

  • TheBML2
    TheBML2  Жыл бұрын +408

    Ah the planes I’ll reach when I’m 50

    • Steel
      Steel  Жыл бұрын

      Im still on teir 3. I will get there someday... someday. (lol)

    • Typhoon stolen SU-27
      Typhoon stolen SU-27  Жыл бұрын

      Just but one top tier premium like I did for the T-72Turms and now I’m rank 5 Russia ground after basically 1 month of grinding
      Aswell as German air I got the squadron 262 and I’m grinding so much in German air

    • Typhoon stolen SU-27
      Typhoon stolen SU-27  Жыл бұрын

      @Sea Oreo and it doesn’t give to boost first it now?

    • Sea Oreo
      Sea Oreo  Жыл бұрын

      Lol I have F4F early

    • yukito _06
      yukito _06  Жыл бұрын

      dont worry bloke ive only wasted a decade of my life for this stuff

  • Crimson Comet
    Crimson Comet  Жыл бұрын +52

    Saying that the F104S isn’t very agile is a HUGE understatement.

    • Liam Dahlberg
      Liam Dahlberg  Жыл бұрын

      @furiosinge ah, please gaijin add pls.

    • furiosinge
      furiosinge  Жыл бұрын

      @Liam Dahlberg only the 104 ASA (aggiornamento sistema d'arma), which Is a modernization of the S, the current armament Is correct in game and also Is a little on the plus size (e.g. not all of them have the cannon and the 6 missiles loads, even if technically feasible, was not included in the manual), source...the S manual. Thus we need the new 104 ASA for italy!

    • Liam Dahlberg
      Liam Dahlberg  Жыл бұрын

      @Fralaus983 Aim 9L's would be very broken if they added them now but flares would be nice.

    • Fralaus983
      Fralaus983  Жыл бұрын +1

      Irl the f104S used to have AIM9Ls and Flares

    • T65Bx
      T65Bx  Жыл бұрын +3

      “to say the least”

  • Messerstolfo
    Messerstolfo  Жыл бұрын +151

    they should mention it takes years to get supersonic jets unless you pay

    • Messerstolfo
      Messerstolfo  Жыл бұрын +1

      @IIknigt you're literally a roblox youtuber. opinion = irrelevant

    • IIknigt
      IIknigt  Жыл бұрын

      It took me 6 weeks to get supersonic jets, do you play 1 hour a day?

    • T65Bx
      T65Bx  Жыл бұрын

      @Jacob Newman Only a year of your life into one video game, whoopie!

      XxDARK DIAMONDxX  Жыл бұрын

      @TankeShashou'85 yea I grinded the q5 with the f5 shebang in a little over a week

    • TankeShashou'85
      TankeShashou'85  Жыл бұрын +1

      @95Karlsson tell me about it, I stopped grinding to the T-2 to switch over to the chinese line and I'm struggling to grind SL to get the J-7 after the J6a. RP really isnt the problem once you get higher up, the time you spend trying to spade will usually be close to or enough to get the next jet. SL becomes the problem as planes, and crew then all become 1mill to purchase.

  • Aquila
    Aquila  Жыл бұрын +15

    I started playing War Thunder since 2013 at the age of 12, I got my Phantom this year at the age of 20

    • Liam Dahlberg
      Liam Dahlberg  Жыл бұрын

      @Aquila That makes sense, good luck on the grind.

    • Aquila
      Aquila  Жыл бұрын +1

      @Liam Dahlberg (in realistic) 1512 finished missions,
      for fighter: 3 days 02h
      bomber: 1d 12h
      attacker: 12m
      helicopter: 2h 08m
      tank: 1d 01h
      TD: 3h 02m
      Heavy tank: 1d 23h
      spaa: 1h 41m
      fighter: 21h 14m
      bomber: 2h 21m
      attacker: 11m
      tank: 5h
      thats that

    • Aquila
      Aquila  Жыл бұрын +1

      @Liam Dahlberg really? oh

    • Liam Dahlberg
      Liam Dahlberg  Жыл бұрын +1

      @Aquila On your war thunder profile stats you can see like
      hours played (fighter): 26 Days
      Hours played (bomber): 2 hours
      stuff like that

    • Aquila
      Aquila  Жыл бұрын

      ​@Liam Dahlberg from the original download? i dont have the steam version

  • [100] Hobbes
    [100] Hobbes  Жыл бұрын +109

    2:01 nice kill steal lmao, he sprayed like 200 rounds for a burning plane

    • PiscesSoedroen
      PiscesSoedroen  Жыл бұрын

      @foxy 48514 what if i told you, most of the gaijining are intentional?

    • foxy 48514
      foxy 48514  Жыл бұрын +1

      @PiscesSoedroen if they did the game wouldn't be broken lol

    • Abi
      Abi  Жыл бұрын +1

      that's impressive, considering the draken has only 180 rounds
      (yes i know this is a joke don't wooosh me)

    • Gnaruto
      Gnaruto  Жыл бұрын +1

      That wasn't a kill steal though, rewatch it.

    • Jielyn Sabarez
      Jielyn Sabarez  Жыл бұрын +5

      @lelon always finds a reason to bash gaijin, their status with gaijin is basically war thunder without the thunder

  • That1Guy248
    That1Guy248  Жыл бұрын +3

    I’d love to try more than one of these without having to commit a year to researching everything for one new nation

  • Spikey
    Spikey  Жыл бұрын +4

    You should add a feature that when you land you can change your ordnance loadout. Lets say I was playing a F-4 Phantom and I was bombing away at tanks and now there are enemy aircraft in the skies, I could fly back to base a rearm with a Air to Air loadout instead. Maybe when you land it brings up the "respawn" interface but you can only change the loadout for your plane, or you to change the loadout it might be a certain amount of Spawn Points. Just a idea that might change how the game is played and add more diversity to the battles.

    • Cookie 3149
      Cookie 3149  Жыл бұрын +1

      You actually can ! When landing and fully repaired and rearmed (and teleported to the other side of the airfield) DON'T MOVE and press J to leave your plane. As crazy as it may sound, it will bring you back the respawn interface where you can change your loadout. Sadly, if you land on a too small airfield and you get an airspawn, you can't change. (I tested in Air RB but I'm pretty sure this system work for every type of battle)
      This system is really stupid because the message when pressing J is exactly the same that when you suicide yourself and as such, I always fear to suicide instead of changing my ordnance

  • Lucas Moreno
    Lucas Moreno  Жыл бұрын +15

    0:37 "and many others waiting for you there"
    they'll be waiting for me for a long time

  • Peter Robinson
    Peter Robinson  Жыл бұрын

    Having played the game for 6 years, I gotta say, the old meta where the F-2 and MiG-17 were top tier was the golden age. That being said, with all things added in currently, I love the 4E Phantom II. Speed is phenomenal, and the lacking gunpod means better flight characteristics. I really want to fly the F-5E, but the price for premium has gotten too high. Premium is gonna be required to grind such aircraft efficiently.

  • Larry Pan
    Larry Pan  Жыл бұрын +12

    It seems every missile can hit the most agile targets

    • Mexicola
      Mexicola  Жыл бұрын

      yet I pretty easily dodge aim9J's and sparrows, even in the F104. just learn how to evade.
      In an F5, any missile is a complete joke, not even a threat as long as you see it coming.

      NO LONGER IN USE  Жыл бұрын

      Except for the mig 23s

    • Prion
      Prion  Жыл бұрын +2

      Well a missile is going to be significantly more maneuverable than any jet since it has a fraction of the mass, better aerodynamics, and doesn't need to worry about pulling too many Gs and killing a pilot. The only advantage a jet has is unpredictably

  • Comet
    Comet  Жыл бұрын +15

    That`s weird, becouse the Mig-21 Bis in the upper part of the cockpit didn`t normally had that panel, in real life it was only being mounted when the aircraft was armed with a RN-24 or RN-28 nuclear bombs.

  • Wolfario 11
    Wolfario 11  Жыл бұрын +1

    Gaijin: “The mig-21 bis has several missiles”. Also gaijin 1 minute later: “You have to be careful with it’s limited amount of missiles.” So what’s it gonna be?

  • BirdsofPreyF23
    BirdsofPreyF23  Жыл бұрын +2

    Out of all of them I enjoy the draken the most it’s just so fun being so maneuverable

  • mason godsell
    mason godsell  Жыл бұрын +12

    You gonna do a video on 2and900? I think you really should since his death has impacted a lot of people who watched his videos on your games so I just think he deserves it.

  • von Weiß
    von Weiß  Жыл бұрын

    I like the MiG-21Bis and the MiG-23. Such flying beauties ❤

  • Spitfire
    Spitfire  Жыл бұрын +5

    Hi Gaijin do you gonna ad more supersonic bomber ?
    Also i like watching the shooting range continues like that :)

  • Fried Yzostas
    Fried Yzostas  Жыл бұрын +22

    I don't enjoy flying any of these machines because I can't reach them, Gaijin. Hope you read this.

    • Poland
      Poland  Жыл бұрын

      That makes them happy

  • Snake Official
    Snake Official  Жыл бұрын +26

    J35D needs a buff, or we need a J37 :D

    • GrundleLongDong
      GrundleLongDong  Жыл бұрын +2

      A vehicle that relies on its enemy to win is not a good vehicle

    • Kommandant Killcode
      Kommandant Killcode  Жыл бұрын

      @War Viking The fact that it is a delta isn’t the problem. The problem is that it is a delta with magics which means supermaneuverable missiles + great aircraft for pulling onto someone’s six quickly to launch those missiles. Also, the Magics are only a bit worse than 9Js in terms of their seekerhead’s resistance to flares.

    • 95Karlsson
      95Karlsson  Жыл бұрын

      @War Viking 4 20g missiles might not be bad. But it’s not as good as what others have at the same or even lower BRs. Like I said, it has its moments but it’s way more situational than other planes and it wouldn’t be a bad idea to have it sit at 10.3. But that’s just my opinion really. If it had better load outs then I’d agree that it sits reasonably at its BR.

    • War Viking
      War Viking  Жыл бұрын

      I wonder why they chose to show the italian f104 tho, Even tho the japaneese one is much much bether

    • War Viking
      War Viking  Жыл бұрын

      @95Karlsson but putting it at 10.3, would means it's comparable to feks the F1, which have the "same" missiles and amount, but is slower, worse acc and worse turn. The draken is perfectly fine where it sits, and there is no issue for it going to 11.0, it wouldnt make a diffrence for it

  • MechaG2
    MechaG2  Жыл бұрын

    Awesome. Loved it. 👍
    The nomenclature for the F-5C and E need to be corrected though, Gaijin. The A model was designated the Freedom Fighter. The F-5C was designate Skoshi Tiger while the F-5E was the Tiger II. Also, the F-5E's stat card picture still has the refueling probe from the dev server test, and needs to be updated to reflect the plane's current visual model.

  • The Dog Thing
    The Dog Thing  Жыл бұрын +1

    I hoped to get to the jets this summer, but my friends don’t play as effective as I can. Do you think that the p47 is one of the best planes of ww2?

  • Svante Forsberg
    Svante Forsberg  Жыл бұрын

    I haven’t unlocked any jets yet, but the Mig 21 and Draken has to be my favorite ones

  • StealthTec
    StealthTec  Жыл бұрын +1

    "Even though we have very little experience with these planes, we believe these are the best vehicles in their classes"

  • Kort Laupp
    Kort Laupp  Жыл бұрын

    Some day i hope to see the a 10 thunderbolt in game it would give me a good reason to grind out top teri jets

  • Noah Temple
    Noah Temple  Жыл бұрын +2

    "you have to make every shot count". That seems like good advice for nearly every Russian plane 😂. And I like it.

  • Chef Rowlet
    Chef Rowlet  Жыл бұрын

    Much as I love flying my mirage with those magics, I actually have more fun with late-war tech. At least in tank RB.
    Especially since I actually *earn* SLs instead of lose them every battle >_>

  • Just Kirt
    Just Kirt  Жыл бұрын +54

    Watching this video even tho I don't own any jets yet

    • azuresstuff2
      azuresstuff2  Жыл бұрын

      @allen liu oh I only play literally every single day hours upon hours, repair costs giving me a nightmare, never get good teams, etc.

    • allen liu
      allen liu  Жыл бұрын

      @azuresstuff2 me who has the f4c, f4e, and mig 21mf: grind harder

    • azuresstuff2
      azuresstuff2  Жыл бұрын

      I also happen to be watching this video without owning a jet even after almost a year of grinding for one

    • allen liu
      allen liu  Жыл бұрын

      me watching this video have 2 of those jets unlocked

    • Average Johann
      Average Johann  Жыл бұрын +1

      Good luck getting your first jet

  • oatmeal slushie
    oatmeal slushie  Жыл бұрын

    I have an idea to fix missile thunder, and to prevent it getting even worse. Make the higher tier missiles for like modern planes have no lead option. Just a single circle like the AIM9-B to balance the high G tolerance.

  • Kjelliboy
    Kjelliboy  Жыл бұрын +6

    Imagine if there was a British vehicle in a list like this

    • KilianFirebolt
      KilianFirebolt  Жыл бұрын

      @Domestic Boomer its a good looking aircraft no doubt, i have seen it on german airshows before. However, i would not call it an extrodinary invention.

    • Domestic Boomer
      Domestic Boomer  Жыл бұрын

      @KilianFirebolt you have forgotten about the Panavia Tornado. Although it was a joint effort it's still a good British jet.

    • KilianFirebolt
      KilianFirebolt  Жыл бұрын +2

      @Juan Pablo Castro harriers werent good. Thats subjective though

    • Juan Pablo Castro
      Juan Pablo Castro  Жыл бұрын

      Since harriers you may say

    • Rounak Rai
      Rounak Rai  Жыл бұрын +1

      @KilianFirebolt lol true spitfire is great then the rest is kinda bad

  • Dior Formula
    Dior Formula  Жыл бұрын +1

    "Draken can dogfight any opponent who dares to challenge it in a 1 on 1 duel"
    -me : *laughs in F5E*

    • Adri Jenie
      Adri Jenie  Жыл бұрын

      Actually it can out turn pretty much everything including F5E

  • MAB
    MAB  Жыл бұрын +4

    In the next major economic update pls lower the module RP of all vehicles starting from rank 4, by at least 70%. Just slash 70% of the research from the modules off.

  • Born2fap
    Born2fap  Жыл бұрын

    when i was smaller i thought mig's looked ugly but after finding out what they can do I CHANGE MY MIND

  • Daniel Espinoza
    Daniel Espinoza  Жыл бұрын

    F5E its my all time favorite along with the old Hawker Hunter

  • ikills 98
    ikills 98  Жыл бұрын +10

    Can't wait for Su 75 checkmate 😂😂

    • MAB
      MAB  Жыл бұрын +1

      IK but we gotta wait till 2026

  • Alex Orr
    Alex Orr  Жыл бұрын

    As someone who has plenty of time in Mig-21's and an ungodly amount of time in F-4E, I can confidently say that in the hands of a skilled player, the F-4E will perform better overall. The energy retention while maneuvering is superior to any Mig-21 model, save for the J-7E derivative (due to the double-delta turning it from a nose-position fighter to a rate-fighter). Additionally, below 5000m, all the high-end Phantom variants can out-run Mig-21bis, due to their higher wing-rip speed. F-4E also has access to every single utility option currently found in game which consist of Fox-1 and Fox-2 type missiles, chaff/flares, RWR, a ballistic computer, internal cannon capable of killing tanks, bombs, rockets, AGM's, and guided AGM's (mavericks). However, due to the lack of total agility and reliance on technology, the F-4E is best played at higher altitudes in a squad or at the very least paired with a teammate for support. Your Aim-7E's are by far your most powerful weapon and going into combat at low altitude throws away your superior avionics and arguably your most powerful weapon.

  • Panzer Lite
    Panzer Lite  Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad Germany has my #1 and #2 favorite jet. The F-4 Phantom II and the Mig-21Bis

  • Christi Mcghee
    Christi Mcghee  Жыл бұрын

    I beat an F-4C with a German FW190 A1 in a guns only dog fight multiple times, but I did loose a few time to it’s guns.

  • Tristan Emery
    Tristan Emery  Жыл бұрын

    Gotta love how they only used completely top tier aircraft, basically removing the possibility for the lightning to show off, seeing as it's one of the fastest things at its BR, and the only thing able to catch up to early MiG-21s (to my knowledge)

  • Phantomenace
    Phantomenace  Жыл бұрын

    Gajin needs to listen to this comments
    I’m sick of this company being absolutely inconsiderate
    Even with 2and900 suicide, everyone but Gajin is acknowledging his loss and commemorating him in many thoughtful ways
    Gajin if you see this comment, do something about your problems

  • Jaimi Bingley
    Jaimi Bingley  Жыл бұрын

    My favourite supersonic fighter is the swing wing, twin engine, twin tail Grumman F-14 Tomcat. Please add this fighter to this game and I will be so happy and grateful.

  • Colton Quade-Wivoda
    Colton Quade-Wivoda  Жыл бұрын

    As much as I love my Draken, it's just not fun to fly at top tier. The repair costs will make your account balance drop like black monday, it loses so much energy in a turn and can hardly regain it before it gets intercepted, and it has no counter measures.

  • Backseat Bogan
    Backseat Bogan  Жыл бұрын +3

    Rip 2and900, a real hero among war thunder

  • BTTamer
    BTTamer  Жыл бұрын +1

    I really love the J35D,
    Which I have, but I really love the F4E and the MiG 21 BIS, but I dont have them yet. Im grinding germanys tech tree right now and im soon gonna start grinding sweden to get all the planes to be able to reaserch the Viggen when it comes out, later im going to grind America to get the F4E

  • Candyman3466
    Candyman3466  Жыл бұрын +19

    Wait did he say the MIG can only carry a few missiles XD? What about the f-5 or draken Or j-7E or the mirage which all carry less missiles???

    • Candyman3466
      Candyman3466  Жыл бұрын +2

      Infinity no that’s the thing ,I get that it can’t carry the most but it does not come near “few” :)

    • Candyman3466
      Candyman3466  Жыл бұрын +2

      @KilianFirebolt that’s what I’m saying :P

    • KilianFirebolt
      KilianFirebolt  Жыл бұрын +3

      The bis can carry 6 lol

  • Creeperwastook
    Creeperwastook  Жыл бұрын

    Iv put almost 1.4K hours in this game and with Premium time and vehicular bonuses here and there Iv only unlocked up to the F4E. That’s insane. It should eat have to take me thousands of hours to get the top tier jets. LOWER REPAIR COSTS. AND BETTER RP MULTIPLIERS FOR HIGHER BR’s.

  • Alexiav the Fox
    Alexiav the Fox  Жыл бұрын

    I like the f-104 in the American tree and I was also wondering what if we could get the A-37 super tweet in warthunder

  • Saturn
    Saturn  Жыл бұрын +1

    did anyone notice the f5 at :35 seconds

  • Dior Formula
    Dior Formula  Жыл бұрын +2

    Mirage 3E "as a tailless delta wing aircraft it is really manoeuvrable"
    Well if you compare it to its predecessor the Mirage 3C and if the Mirage 3C is trailing a 3 busses maybe

    • Liam Dahlberg
      Liam Dahlberg  Жыл бұрын

      Yeah I thought the same, mirage 3E is trash why is it even on this list like wtf.

  • VaidFox
    VaidFox  Жыл бұрын

    J35D is everything I want but I am stuck at 7.7 with Sweden because always uptier to 8.3

  • Edward Teach
    Edward Teach  Жыл бұрын

    I like the MiG-21MF. R-60s are great, but people falsely think they're only good at short range. On the Afghanistan map, I was diving at Mach 1.2 towards an enemy flying nearly perpendicular to me, and fired a missile at a 2.7 mile (4.3) km range. He didn't even deploy any flares, he just... died.

  • Lucas Guia
    Lucas Guia  Жыл бұрын +13

    I know it’s probably not the place but could you say something for 2and900? Just something small could help the community I think. “Rest in peace and fly high” is what I would go with but any other contributions would be nice.

    • Liam Dahlberg
      Liam Dahlberg  Жыл бұрын

      That would be nice. 2and900 passed way to young.

  • Rodolfo Hernandez
    Rodolfo Hernandez  Жыл бұрын

    Been playing War Thunder since 2020 and still on 9th level in the propeller aircraft tier. I think I'm gonna reach the Jet powered aircraft tier by the year 2047 because every battle is not ranked and balanced, just gonna watch and wine about not reaching the jets

  • HoovyLuca
    HoovyLuca  Жыл бұрын

    No mention of the Mig-23M? Pretty sure it has the highest sea level rip speed in the game

  • Markus Dupree
    Markus Dupree  Жыл бұрын +1

    The MIG-21 is my favourite because it’s pretty cool and some other things

  • Prestige XV
    Prestige XV  Жыл бұрын

    Mig-21 bis is great, but currently unplayable unless you want to slowly bleed SL from its crippling repair cost.

  • Glaucetas
    Glaucetas  Жыл бұрын

    Wow, that's some nice aircraft that 90% of player will never get. And once you've succed to research one, will instantly be forgotten cuz of the repair cost / poor rewards it give.

  • Beardroid91
    Beardroid91  Жыл бұрын

    Like the MiG 21, but only have the 21 MF in the German tree, looking forward to a 21 BIS and or a MiG 23 coming to the German tree. I have a Phantom F-4E but i dislike how much of a flying bus it is.

  • Adeptus Mechanicus
    Adeptus Mechanicus  Жыл бұрын

    Could we please get bigger air RB maps to match those speedy devils? In the current state, it doesn't feel enjoyable, right after takeoff you're already in the fight.

  • AH-64 Apache
    AH-64 Apache  Жыл бұрын +35

    Nice economy changes, love it when gaijin spits in my face

  • Tuan Le
    Tuan Le  Жыл бұрын

    i played this game for over 2 months then i reached rank 3 and im hoping i will reach rank 7 in under 2 years

  • Andreas K.
    Andreas K.  Жыл бұрын

    I'd take the E phantom anytime over the mig21 bis, also the mirage... Mig has 'only' hear guidance...

  • Cobra King
    Cobra King  Жыл бұрын

    I think Gaijin needs to do something with the repair costs, like mimic or reflect the costs & repair costs of vehicles with IRL stats, like the Tiger being an expensive tank, well, make it expensive to repair, T-34 were cheap? well, make the repair costs low, Sherman has great Reliability? well decrease repair time in game and on stat card. it should mimic it or, at least, reflect the repair cost with how hard it was to repair vehicles

  • Husarz Chodkiewicza
    Husarz Chodkiewicza  Жыл бұрын +2

    Almost all mig21 vs phantom battles ends with phantom victory.... yes, mig21 at first place. (looks like russian creators don't know their game)

  • ggabriel 537
    ggabriel 537  Жыл бұрын +6

    almost everyone complaining in the comments, you are really in the right way gaijin, keep it up!

    • Bert
      Bert  Жыл бұрын +1

      They just made a youtuber suicide. Are you sure about that?

  • Akūma
    Akūma  Жыл бұрын

    If this game has CS-63 and 60TP line i would love that

  • Aenonar
    Aenonar  Жыл бұрын

    Imagine if the game didn't take months or years to grind to the vehicles you actually want to play and that all vehicles were actually playable at reasonable BR's along with no stupid and pointless repair costs... Maybe we could actually play the game and just have fun with our friends like we once did... People spending money on the game because it's actually fun and they get value for their hard earned money...

  • Adri Jenie
    Adri Jenie  Жыл бұрын +2

    J-7E is the best in my opinion

  • F82TwinMustang
    F82TwinMustang  Жыл бұрын

    I would enjoy flying the MiG-21 MF a lot more if R-60s didn't shake violently after launch, tanking their maneuverability

  • Timothy immanuel
    Timothy immanuel  Жыл бұрын

    i think my MIG 23 is the best i test this with my friend comparing the new top tier jets and the mig 23 wins in the 1st place then the F 5E freedom fighter 2nd and 3rd goes to the German mig 21 mf

  • AussieDogfighter
    AussieDogfighter  Жыл бұрын

    Fun fact, Mavericks are also good medium range all aspect A2A missiles, provided your target has the social awareness of a potato

  • Sebek Dec
    Sebek Dec  Жыл бұрын

    In all other aspects, this mirage is similar to the Draken... In what for example

  • CR0SSB0NE304
    CR0SSB0NE304  Жыл бұрын

    The Po-2 is my jet of choice.

  • Lionel Bailleul
    Lionel Bailleul  Жыл бұрын

    About the Mig-21 : "And the jet can only carry a few missiles"
    Do we talk about mirage 3 E that has only 2 missiles ?
    And do we talk about extreme br compression at these br ?

  • Vortex
    Vortex  Жыл бұрын

    The Dracan is a plane i really like and am grinding to get

  • Lone reaper
    Lone reaper  Жыл бұрын

    Really like how you missed arguably the best top teir jet right now, the Fgr2 and Fg1, it's not like the pulse dopler radar gives it a fantastic advantage or anything, or that it's one of the best climbers.

  • Brennan Guernsey
    Brennan Guernsey  Жыл бұрын

    Gaijin: "Russian bias isnt real"
    Also Gaijin: "MIG21 Bis BEST PLANE!"

  • akshat tm
    akshat tm  Жыл бұрын

    Will there ever be a video on the MIG 21 Bisons in the service of the Indian Airforce?

  • arkan7rb
    arkan7rb  Жыл бұрын

    my favorite all of them without any stupid hidden nerfs that u constantly doing them for every single great machine in this game

  • Mac 2
    Mac 2  Жыл бұрын

    "missile performs well in close range dogfight"
    proceeds to show missile having a seizure

  • Ekho
    Ekho  Жыл бұрын +2

    It's been 2 years and I'm still stuck at 7.0 itl take another 6 years to get to top tier

  • Duke3508
    Duke3508  Жыл бұрын +6

    RIP 2and900 🙏 a great WT creator has left us.

    • Duke3508
      Duke3508  Жыл бұрын

      @SKL -1 2and900 passed away today. Sadly 😔.

    • SKL -1
      SKL -1  Жыл бұрын

      Wait what!?

  • Sherman Teng
    Sherman Teng  Жыл бұрын

    How is the British lightning not here even though it beaten a U2 Spyplane in altitude🤦‍♀️

  • Zoltek
    Zoltek  Жыл бұрын +2

    **F-104S Debunk**
    1:30 Those numbers are inaccurate
    In a straight line, the plane can go max 1480km/h
    In a dive it can go 1560
    "The F-104S Isn't very agile"
    Hold up lemmie drop landing flaps rq and dogfight this F-4
    No one really knows but the F-104S CAN dogfight a F4 and win, it's landing flaps are absolutely baller, just takes practice and skill

  • MrNewVegas
    MrNewVegas  Жыл бұрын

    I am pretty sure the J-7E is a modified 21F-13, so this video may be incorrect. Also, the F-5E is the "Tiger II" not "Freedom Fighter"

  • EliteDeltaTeam
    EliteDeltaTeam  Жыл бұрын +8

    MiG-21bis: surprisingly cheap
    In game: one of the most expensive jets to repair
    I think you’ll be better off paying $40 (?) for the MiG-21bis on DCS, and learn the ABCs of operating the plane.

    • SKL -1
      SKL -1  Жыл бұрын

      Planned for that since before I knew War thunder existed.

  • Rokas B
    Rokas B  Жыл бұрын

    Lightning f6 suffers from flightmodel and BR compression so much, that it didn't even make it to this list (even tho it's faster that freedom fighter and more maneuvrable than starfighters.)

  • Arseny Suslenkov
    Arseny Suslenkov  Жыл бұрын

    Please give the Italian tree jet with adequate AAMs

  • CMDR Emotions
    CMDR Emotions  Жыл бұрын

    Hey Gaijin, why do the Mirage alerions lock up at 650 kph despite being a delta wing? you know, where elevators and alerions are the same surface? And elevators don't lock up untill 950 kph?
    Do I enjoy flying them? No since you added the Mystere 4 and now I need another 2million SL to buy them.

  • Jacob Kopec
    Jacob Kopec  Жыл бұрын

    You said J-7E is heavily modified bis? But bis has radar isnt it? 😅 Also looks different, its modified F model from what i can see