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Therapist Reacts to THE LION KING


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  • Nicki O'Leary
    Nicki O'Leary Ай бұрын +3438

    I like that they acknowledge that Hakuna Matata on it’s own isn’t bad advice. It’s not bad to not let the past drag you down and move on from it, but it is bad to do so to the extent that Simba goes where he dodges his responsibilities

    • Azizulfikri
      Azizulfikri 24 күн бұрын

      @6th Wilbury It's always an issue when they always take things out of context just to fit their agenda without understanding that there's always room for tolerance and kindness

    • MsJubjubbird
      MsJubjubbird Ай бұрын +4

      you're right. I think there is a place for this attitude. It stops you stressing about things you can't change and it ensures you take care of yourself. But when you can change things or take a risk then you should.

    • Paulina Alejandra Carrasco Sepulveda
      Paulina Alejandra Carrasco Sepulveda Ай бұрын +2

      It is good advice until is not

    • Mia Kiceh
      Mia Kiceh Ай бұрын

      @rmsgrey "plan to isolate permanently"(quote)
      You noticed in the movie that Elsa's entire childhood was spent in isolation.
      She tried to circulate... But, that failed to go smoothly so she returned to what's familiar. Mainly because her parents never taught her any other tools.
      So, she appeared to venture out, though isolated; to develop her identity and develop her own tools.

    • rmsgrey
      rmsgrey Ай бұрын

      @Mia Kiceh Isolation shouldn't be the only tool, but it is still a valid tool when used appropriately. Elsa climbing the mountain to find a place where she could try out her powers without putting others in danger would have been a pretty good plan - sometimes getting time apart from other people in order to work through issues, or to have a safe opportunity to fail is a great idea.
      The problem with Elsa's plan to isolate herself permanently is the "permanently" part - always being alone is at least as bad as never being alone...

  • The Firm
    The Firm Ай бұрын +777

    Raffiki tells him what he needs to know, not what he needs to hear. He lets simba come into himself and doesn’t push. He’s the best therapist ❤

    • Johnny and the Insatiable Void
      Johnny and the Insatiable Void Ай бұрын

      Not too shabby at beating up hyenas, either.

    • Hebby Cakes
      Hebby Cakes Ай бұрын +13

      I think I could benefit from being struck in the head with a stick by my therapist.

    • Simbala 1994
      Simbala 1994 Ай бұрын +13

      Yeah even in Kingdom Hearts 2 he was also like that and in the remake idk I don't want talk about that

  • brigidtheirish
    brigidtheirish Ай бұрын +279

    What you said about adults telling things to children and it getting internalized "in our identity DNA" really struck me. Mom told me that a teacher once told her, *to her face,* that she was stupid. She was in *grade school.* She believed it into *college* when she found out she has dyslexia. Even now, over 40 years later, she seems to have a hard time believing anyone who compliments her about *anything.*

    • ElliePhantom
      ElliePhantom 27 күн бұрын +4

      My father did that to me. I'll be 32 this May, and I still internalize all the cruel things he has ever said about me. The only thing that man has ever done that was good for my mental health was to make me so angry at him for hurting me, that I chose to be a better parent than he ever was or could be.

    • Jennifer Gerry
      Jennifer Gerry 29 күн бұрын +1

      Yup this

    • Wendy Milligan
      Wendy Milligan Ай бұрын +5

      I had a teacher like that when I was about 8 years old who had very little patience with me, treated me like I was lazy and/or stupid, and had me believing there was something wrong with me. She had my mum taking me for all sorts of assessments for various learning difficulties, none of which ever found anything abnormal. I was a bit of a daydreamer, but none of my other teachers ever had a problem with me. But from my experiences with this one woman, the idea that there was something wrong with me really stuck. Until I went to university and began learning to be a teacher myself. I realised that this woman had broken some of the most important rules for good teachers. Students learn more when they feel confident and safe asking questions. Making a student feel stupid will not make them smarter (shocker!), and it certainly won't help them to learn anything constructive. It achieves the exact opposite. It doesn't take very much effort to cause a child to attach a negative attribute to their sense of identity, sometimes for life. I have managed to leave behind that belief there was something wrong with me (most of the time), and now find that one of the few things that gets me truly fired up is hearing someone being spoken to like my teacher spoke to me. That disdainful, dismissive impatient tone. I'm not usually very outspoken, but when I hear that tone, I will freely tell the speaker that they're being a**hole, and take the person being spoken to under my wing and try to build them up again. I feel kind of like I'm righting that wrong for others that I couldn't make right for myself when I was a child.

    • Anna Bourbon
      Anna Bourbon Ай бұрын +23

      Yes. My mom had a similar experience with her whole family, and to this day she still struggles with it. In my case I had a teacher who told me that I wasn't good at maths (I was really good though but she didn't know) but after that, I've been struggling with them. We really need to take care of what we say to kids. Even comparing them to someone they know you don't like or even someone you actually like, can be hurtful. In both cases is the same thing: I'm not good at being me. Luckily for me my parents did everything right the first 8 to 11 years of my life. Which gave me enough time to feel like I'm worthy of being here. But I've seen many people hiding themselves on their own skin because of traumas. I'm not saying I don't have trauma, because, life. But my parents were not that bad and even though we all have an had to work with our issues, they're awesome.

  • mystical
    mystical Ай бұрын +1207

    The thing that I love most about Rafiki is that he never just shoves his opinion on Simba; he lets Simba come to him and make his own observations before offering his own (or smacking him on the head). Even after that amazing line about the past, Rafiki never says, "Now go fulfill your destiny!" He ASKS Simba what Simba will do next, giving Simba full power of agency.

    • P S
      P S Ай бұрын +62

      Also that's just a great line, "First, I'm gonna take your stick!" 😝

    • Yuliia Kyianets
      Yuliia Kyianets Ай бұрын +72

      That's also how a great teacher/mentor should always act!

  • Mesajinx
    Mesajinx Ай бұрын +374

    I like to think that "Hakuna Matata" is great advice for situations/circumstances that exist or occur *outside of your control,* but the opposite is also true (ie. it's terrible advice for when things are *within* your control). Great video you two! 💕

    • Margaret Schaufele
      Margaret Schaufele Ай бұрын +43

      I take it as the advice that Simba needed at that moment, and Timon and Pumba were actually very kind to help a kid that clearly needed it. And they're lifestyle isn't "no responsibilities" as is often interpreted. They adopted Simba because they hope that he could help protect them in the future, but they also try to cheer him up when they see he's depressed. They're supportive friends. They even follow him with Nala to help him reclaim his kingdom, simply because it's important TO Simba.

    • Cinema Therapy
      Cinema Therapy  Ай бұрын +68

      Well said! Thank you! :)

  • AMGitsKriss
    AMGitsKriss Ай бұрын +1340

    My absolute favourite moment is when Timon tells Simba something to the effect of "If it's important to you, it's important to us." I think it's a great example of expression of love between friends.

    • Depth217
      Depth217 Ай бұрын +31

      @Nabzarella Dare exactly. They’re animals who moved to the oasis to be away from predators and live carefree lives without responsibility. But when their adoptive son is in trouble and needs help, they’re both ready and willing to lay down their lives for him. Even when he talks about what a dump the Pride Lands are, Timon still says they’re gonna fight Scar in the same breath.

    • Nabzarella Dare
      Nabzarella Dare Ай бұрын +35

      Not to mention, Timon and Pumbaa put their own lives in danger for something that Timon felt wasn't even worth it ("We're gonna fight your uncle...for this?" "Talk about your fixer upper!") but still did it anyway because it was important to Simba.

    • Stephanie Rosen
      Stephanie Rosen Ай бұрын +36

      "Well, Simba, if it's important to you, we're with you to the end." Gets me sobbing every time. 😅

    • MrToast
      MrToast Ай бұрын +61

      They didn't always give the best advice, but they did the best they could and really cared about simba

    • DP
      DP Ай бұрын +35

      Wow I never realized how true those words are until now.

  • Trina Q
    Trina Q Ай бұрын +4191

    I always admired how open Mufasa was about his fear that something would happen to Simba, and that he was terrified of losing him. In a society which preaches "Men Don't Cry", it's really realistic to depict a male character openly showing vulnerability, and how it's a sign of strength, not weakness.

    • Ribotto Studios
      Ribotto Studios Ай бұрын

      @HyperSpeedFox THIS

    • Leppender
      Leppender Ай бұрын +12

      My dad (RIP) used to say, "One day you'll realize that I'm not perfect." Eventually I grew up enough to learn that he was right, but such does not detract from the fact that he was still wise enough to humble his child against himself.

    • brigidtheirish
      brigidtheirish Ай бұрын +6

      @Jane Doe X Because emotions are a sign of weakness. It's a weird cultural thing that was part of why the Sixties happened.

    • Jane Doe X
      Jane Doe X Ай бұрын

      Excuse me, as far as I learned - and nursing school didn't teach me anything different- males are HUMANS.
      Humans have emptions.
      Therefore - as we established before- boys/ men are humans and have emotions, they should be tought how to show, express and deal with them accordingly. Not shut some of them down.

    • Rachel Jackson
      Rachel Jackson Ай бұрын +1

      well said.

  • Ashley Penn
    Ashley Penn Ай бұрын +45

    Rafiki whacking Simba with the staff reminds me of a story of when my hubby went to therapy as a teen. He had a lot of internalized anger at his biological father for being abusive and it manifested in unhealthy ways. His therapist took him outside and told him to vent his pent up frustration by taking a bat to a tree for a few minutes. Hubby wound up for one solid swing, the bat hit the tree, rebounded, and nailed him right in the back of the head.
    As he lay on the ground looking up at the sky, the therapist leaned over and said, "Well this wasn't the lesson I wanted you to learn today, but if you take away anything from it, just remember that entertaining all this rage will ultimately result in you hurting yourself."

  • N A R
    N A R Ай бұрын +32

    My mom told me about my father's death while we were watching The Lion King. She said that even despite the death of his father, Simba had a bright life and a good ending. Of course, the death of a loved one left a scar on me, but I was relieved that the character from my favorite cartoon went through the same thing that I was going through
    I was 6 years old when my dad died. I'm 18 now and Lion King is still one of my favorite movies

    • Muffins 362
      Muffins 362 8 күн бұрын +3

      Same here man, my dad died from cancer when I was 3 and to this day I still have deep rooted anxiety surrounding death and Simba is my comfort character and one day I want to be brave like him and be happy

    • That one book nerd
      That one book nerd 24 күн бұрын +5

      I’m so sorry you had to deal with that but am so happy that you found a character that you can relate to.❤

  • B
    B Ай бұрын +141

    I am shocked you guys haven't done The Princess Bride yet there are so many angles. Revenge, romance, how to treat kids and their ideas, problem solving, Billy Crystal, the list goes on. Would love to hear you guys talk about Andre and what went into making the movie

    • E Ryuu
      E Ryuu Ай бұрын +2

      @Sorcha ni Daan :)

    • Sorcha ni Daan
      Sorcha ni Daan Ай бұрын +3

      @E Ryuu I see what you did there 🤣

    • E Ryuu
      E Ryuu Ай бұрын +14

      It's inconceivable that they haven't done one already.

    • Melissa MyBubbles
      Melissa MyBubbles Ай бұрын +5

      Oh, I'd love to watch them talk about Princess Bride!

    • Skylar Griego
      Skylar Griego Ай бұрын +9

      I would rewatch that analysis so many times. Oh my gosh I HOPE Princess Bride is on the list!!!

  • Gred&Forge
    Gred&Forge Ай бұрын +75

    I never realized until Johnathan pointed out the similar messages to 'Hakuna Matata' and 'Let It Go' that Elsa and Simba have similar if not the same character arc.
    Both were raised to take over as rulers for their kingdom, but tragedy struck that pushed that pressure over the edge in different ways, but both came to the same idea; running away and never returning was in their, and everyone else's, best interests.
    Both of them being raised and taught to follow the rules and how to act to become good rulers, they had their moments of fun with friends (Elsa with Anna, Simba with Nala) but the two know when they're adults what's expected of them. Suddenly with the notion that no one would want to follow them as leaders (for Elsa, out of fear from her powers; for Simba, out of fear to the news he's the reason his father is dead)
    They both have songs that regard this new philosophy that having no responsibilities and a carefree lifestyle may not be so bad. They even love it for a time until they are confronted by someone important to them that they are the only one who can save their respective kingdoms.
    They even react the same way to receiving the message! At first being happy to see the messenger (Anna, Nala) then being apprehensive or even scared at the notion of going back. Trying to convince them that their new plan of never returning is what's best so they can avoid further hurting those they love, and finally snapping at the messenger causing them to leave.
    Once alone again, someone else comes along to bring them home, (though Hans forced Elsa back whereas Rafiki convinced Simba where Nala failed).
    At the end after saving their kingdom, I suppose you could say it's the distance that helped them since Elsa was able to learn more about her powers to help find herself and Simba lost himself for awhile but returning home to see how it's fallen apart emboldens him to fight back
    TLDR; Simba and Elsa are one and the same

  • Hailey B.
    Hailey B. Ай бұрын +101

    Honestly, this advice is exactly what I needed right now. After being emotionally abused as a kid, I've been trying to figure out navigating a relationship with the abusive parent. Frankly it's hard for me to not be tense all the time around them, because I want to be the better person but I'm scared of messing up and making mistakes in my process of trying to set boundaries. So, I'm still very submissive and only quietly setting boundaries with tons of fear every time, because I worry I will make mistakes and that they will have more ammunition against me. However, I think that it's important for me to recognize that I'm doing the best I can, and that my worth is not tied to this parent's opinion of me, or because I'm learning from the failures as I figure out how to stand up for myself and set boundaries.

    • JDeLespace
      JDeLespace Ай бұрын +3

      I also come from an abusive family and completely relate to the fear of making mistakes concerning communication. I’ve always had the belief that I had to communicate in a calm and positive way in order to be the bigger person and instill positive change in the family climate. And they were definitely using against me the times when I lost my temper (even tough they were always mean themselves...). And so the guilt kept me in “my place”.
      I’ve had so much insecurity about being able to communicate... But then, I understood 2 things.
      For one, it’s not fair or reasonable to be expected to be calm and patient in one’s communication style, in an environment that is basically chaos and thrives on your pain. I’ve found that when I can retreat into a peaceful, safe space and retrieve my wellbeing (BEFORE I even answer to their demands), I then naturally can speak calmly and it’s very impactful...
      And the second thing is, when I realized that speaking with force, even saying difficult (always true) things SHAMELESSLY, on pure instinct, holds incredible power for positive change. That’s it you overcome the guilt that makes your positioning shaky.
      I personally think Nala was right to confront Simba here in the way that she did. Sure... he needed to unwind and connect to something spiritual afterwards to digest it all. But she was, in my opinion, a perfectly necessary step to his awakening.

    • TheLegendOfLivz
      TheLegendOfLivz Ай бұрын +6

      heck yeah! I see myself and a lot of other people have left similar comments. I have found that my parent/abuser will not understand why and I set boundaries when I do, but they'll accept them when I refuse to allow them to needle me about it. It's become easier the older I get thankfully.

  • Kaley
    Kaley Ай бұрын +1100

    Simba is a great character to relate to in terms of overcoming trauma and PTSD. When he reunites with Nala, she says (about being alive all of this time): “and your mother, what will she think?” Simba, in response, panics and deflects to “no one has to know.” I think that was a direct callback to when Scar said the same thing after Mufasa died “What will your mother think?” An excellent example of a PTSD flashback/response!

    • Wolf
      Wolf Ай бұрын +7

      I’ve watched this movie a billion times and I did not catch that!

    • Ribotto Studios
      Ribotto Studios Ай бұрын +129

      Oh my GOD I had wondered what Nala meant for YEARS. She was talking about Sarabi being excited that Simba her son is alive. Guess my mind like Simba went to "Oh God what would she think about me (Simba) being the one responsible for my father's death." Damn.

  • Iclynnx
    Iclynnx Ай бұрын +113

    When you two spoke about parents having said things in a moment of frustration that they wish they could take back, it made me think of Del Toro's Pinnochio. I would highly recommend covering it on this channel! There's Geppeto's grief, Pinnochio not wanting to be a burden, Candlewick wanting to make his father proud, and Death herself talking about mortality and immortality.

  • Metroid Fred
    Metroid Fred Ай бұрын +30

    It's been so long since I've seen this movie and as a kid Rafiki's stick metaphor definitely would've flown over my head. Seeing it again now it has to be one of the best ways for a movie to deliver a message I've ever seen. They don't even comment on it, it doesn't even last 30 seconds, yet the impact it has on Simba is evident. It's incredible!

    • MsJubjubbird
      MsJubjubbird Ай бұрын +3

      Agreen. There is a lot to learn warching this as an adult. Even though I watched it a thousand times as a small child I never understood the guilt trip Scar placed on Simba as extra insurance until I watched it again as an adult

  • Ray Red
    Ray Red Ай бұрын +82

    I was born in 94' so I've watched this movie literally my entire life. It is my fav animated movie because I can relate to Simba in a deeper way and I'm happy you both tall about grief and guilt and how he doesn't know who he is until the right moment comes.
    I cannot express how much I love this movie and how Mufasa is one character I'll never forget since he reminds me of my own dad.
    I love the friendship between Simba and Nala, Timon and Pumbaa. Rafiki gives the best advice but ultimately, they all have a powerful teaching in Simba's journey to become king.
    And Alan is right. Thanks to Hans Zimmer for creating one hell of a soundtrack. I cannot listen to it without weeping. Even now, 29 y/o, i still cry in the same way when I was a kid.

    • Nathan Vertil
      Nathan Vertil 15 күн бұрын

      I feel the exact same way; I was born three days before the limited release, so it has a very special place in my heart.

    • Rachel Jackson
      Rachel Jackson Ай бұрын +1

      Rafiki's got the better advice Far better than Dhar Mann. there i said it.

  • Arena War Incineroar
    Arena War Incineroar Ай бұрын +21

    It would be interesting to see a therapist's reaction to Puss In Boots: The Last Wish.
    There's so much psychology in that masterpiece.

  • Marita Solberg
    Marita Solberg Ай бұрын +105

    One thing that always confused me about the meeting with Nala and Simba, is why exactly she thought Simba coming back would magically fix the drought they were clearly going through. I mean, it clearly did, but I always thought she was putting the blame of something that's no one's fault on him.

    • Hades Edits
      Hades Edits 28 күн бұрын

      I see it as more of a religious thing kinda. They believe that only a rightful king, which is Simba, can only do it. It's not really deeper than that. Logically yeah she shouldn't expect him to but it's just the way she thinks and people in that place thought

    • MsJubjubbird
      MsJubjubbird Ай бұрын

      well he'd expel the hyenas so there would be less competition for food and water. With the herds gone no one is maintaining the vegetation, which affects the ecosystem. But there's also this mythical idea- and this movie has a Shaman in it so it explores mythology- that if things aren't in their right place then they go askew. Almost a form of Confucianism.

    • Mallory Carpinski
      Mallory Carpinski Ай бұрын

      I'm thinking they needed a different leader to leave the land with the drought not end it. One of the lionesses (I think Simba's mom) tells Scar they have to leave Pride Rock and he refuses. It begs the question though, why didn't the lionesses just leave Scar? My first thought is they didn't have any other males so their pride would die out without him, but... who wants to procreate with Scar anyway?

    • Carolina A.
      Carolina A. Ай бұрын +1

      Very simple, the hyenas abused the environment depleting it of its resources. If Simba came back he would restore the circle of life thus having a good impact on the environment.

    • Crystal Lewis
      Crystal Lewis Ай бұрын +5

      At one point in the movie Sarabi says they need to leave the pridelands to go elsewhere (presumably a place that wasn't overhunted and wasn't going through a drought) but Scar stubbornly refused. Perhaps Nala thought that if Simba took his rightful place as king, Simba would have put the pride first and allowed them to leave?

  • Elithesià
    Elithesià Ай бұрын +677

    Here's a fun fact about Hans Zimmer:
    He wrote the music for the stampede scene (and the motifs that follow it) specifically as a requiem for his own father that he lost. The reason why the music around Mufasa is so powerful is likely due to Zimmer's own emotional connections with it.

    • Rachel Jackson
      Rachel Jackson Ай бұрын +4

      WOW Now that IS powerful.

    • The Firm
      The Firm Ай бұрын +14

      And he’s such a genius, when scars shadow comes onto the screen, the music becomes slightly menacing and jarring.

    • neiloo
      neiloo Ай бұрын +36

      "To Die For" is an interesteresting piece. If you listen to the earlier part, when Scar watches the whole scene happen from the distance (put the track at about 1:10) you can hear a motiff that clearly alludes to Mozart's "Lacrimosa".
      What I also noticed, at the beginning of the requiem part, the music kind of fluctuates between major and minor sounding, giving it a bittersweet mood. When Simba snuggles with Mufasa's body it turns to somber minor sound, but when another lion appears we get a single major sounding chord. Something like this was often used in Rennaissance music, to end and otherwise serious piece on a more hopeful note. So we get that here, but as soon as it becomes clear that the appearing figure is Scar, it goes straight to ominous minor chords. I don't know if that was the intention, but I really like that move there - giving this glimmer of hope/relief, to instantly snag it away.

    • Emilove🔮🦇
      Emilove🔮🦇 Ай бұрын +12

      I have goosebumps listening to this score. You can just feel the emotion.

    • Mechell Hewitt
      Mechell Hewitt Ай бұрын +21

      Damn you got a great point. Hans definitely put himself into this music and it shows. Thanks for that fact I never knew that one

  • A Geves
    A Geves Ай бұрын +8

    "Awful people watch for moments to manipulate." Great way to phrase it, and a good thing to remember when judging someone's character, and if they really have your best interest at heart or are good/bad to be around.

  • Nightmare116
    Nightmare116 Ай бұрын +22

    Thank you for mentioning Hans Zimmer and his immense impact on the emotionality of this movie (and all of the other masterpieces he has been a part of). Movie scores make moments so much more powerful. I feel blessed to live in an the same era as John Williams and Hans Zimmer.

  • Kura ThChibiCrystalKitty
    Kura ThChibiCrystalKitty Ай бұрын +67

    I'm so happy that you guys did Lion King, it's one of my top three favourite movies ever! Could you do a video on Howl's Moving Castle? There's some interesting stuff there with Sophie's struggles with self-esteem and Howl's avoidance of things that scare him, but also how they learn to be vulnerable with each other.

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      kai_winchester_66 Ай бұрын


    • Blue Flare
      Blue Flare Ай бұрын +3

      @Kura ThChibiCrystalKitty Huh, I guess you're right. I couldn't find it either. I could've sworn I saw it. I guess I got it confused with another movie they did.

    • Kura ThChibiCrystalKitty
      Kura ThChibiCrystalKitty Ай бұрын +5

      @Blue Flare I just checked, and they've done My Neighbour Totoro, Spirited Away, and Grave of the Fireflies [not watching that one for sure].

    • Blue Flare
      Blue Flare Ай бұрын +2

      I think they might have done that one already.

  • Sri Alekhya Nanduri
    Sri Alekhya Nanduri Ай бұрын +7

    Rafiki's words truly impacted a whole generation of kids. In fact the whole lion king movie did. there is a lot we can learn from this movie all the while enjoying the amazing story being shown to us.

  • JessieFrance
    JessieFrance Ай бұрын +9

    I’m 33, saw this at 4 years old the first time and made my parents take me 4 times to see the movie. I will never not cry during Mufasa’s death, and I’ll always sing all the songs.
    On an emotional note, when I lost my mom at 9, my grandmother was the one to tell me. She said she had no clue what to say but when she started talking she used Mufasa as her talking point. She told me that my mom was gone, like Simba’s daddy, but she would always be with me like Mufasa was with Simba.
    This truly helped me understand, and in some ways come to terms with my trauma. And for that I love this movie all the more. No other animated movie means as much to me.

  • MinarchistMandalorian
    MinarchistMandalorian Ай бұрын +752

    Yall made me realize some of my issues with anxiety and loss were normal and that I couldn't just rely on myself to get through them. Since I found y'alls channel I've been able to identify and eliminate toxic friendships, and overall have become a better and happier person. I love you guys, keep up the great work and keep changing lives. Bless you and thank you

    • MinarchistMandalorian
      MinarchistMandalorian Ай бұрын

      @Asta Westh- Kristensen thanks! Same to you

    • Asta Westh- Kristensen
      Asta Westh- Kristensen Ай бұрын

      I hope you'll continue getting, and feeling better❤

    • MinarchistMandalorian
      MinarchistMandalorian Ай бұрын +2

      @Maria thanks! I'm actually doing great now that I knew what my issues were and how to fix them, and funnily enough therapy wasn't needed for me. Alls I needed was a healthy environment and respectful relationships

    • MinarchistMandalorian
      MinarchistMandalorian Ай бұрын +5

      @thefinalme same here. I was always loved when I had something to offer, but when I needed something they were "busy". Luckily my realization also helped me get closer to other friends who actually appreciated me

    • Maria
      Maria Ай бұрын +1

      Good luck with your journey 💕💕💕

  • Kelley McMahan
    Kelley McMahan Ай бұрын +8

    Reminds me of something a therapist told me ages ago when it comes to interpersonal conflict. "Do you want to win or do you want to be happy?"

  • Krystal Kossen
    Krystal Kossen 17 күн бұрын +3

    I love the “everyone is learning” and “worth ties” message. As someone in my late 20s, I’ve been on my own for a while as an adult, but am still learning. But then I see friends and my fiancé knowing so much more than me about how “adulting” works (i.e. finances, insurance, buying a house, etc.), and I feel so behind, like I should know everything about it already. But with my ADHD, I don’t think to learn it until it’s right in front of me. That helps in the not worrying about it too much aspect, but then when it comes time to do some of these things, if there was supposed to be any sort of prep, I sometimes get a lecture of how I should have started the process months ago. Especially for long term stuff. It feels like I’m constantly playing catch up with other people my age and is frustrating…

  • LittleLilyKitty
    LittleLilyKitty Ай бұрын +15

    Thank you for this episode. Lion King is, and always will be my most favorite movie!

    • Simbala 1994
      Simbala 1994 Ай бұрын

      Omg that makes sense that movie is almost 30 years old and got so many undiscovered details like wow that impressive

  • Ouranor
    Ouranor Ай бұрын +15

    I remember sitting in front of the TV and watching the Pride Rock scene on a loop BECAUSE of the music. I also sat through the credits every time because I wanted to hear the song from the man with the prettiest voice :). I was around 5 years old and it remains one of my clearest memories even though I'm 33 now. This is why I never mention TLK when ranking Disney movies. It exists outside of any ranking, floating atop the even the highest peaks of greatness. Like potatoes in relation to every other vegetable :D

    • Ouranor
      Ouranor Ай бұрын +1

      @jco922 You have excellent taste

    • jco922
      jco922 Ай бұрын +2

      ...upvoted for potatoes.

  • kalinut03
    kalinut03 Ай бұрын +24

    I cannot adequately express just how much I love you guys and what you’re putting out into the world. Love you both! And thank you…we’re dealing with one of the hardest seasons of life right now. And my oldest son and I…you have helped us cope, make sense of so much, and move forward as best we can. Truly, thank you.

  • Lisa_WistfulOne
    Lisa_WistfulOne Ай бұрын +791

    I’m so glad you guys also talked about how Nala’s approach to getting Simba to return was hurtful to him. It’s easy to see Disney characters as “all good” or “all bad”, and we sometimes tend to generally see rl people this way. I tend to communicate like Nala- extremely earnest and blunt (no sarcasm tho!), so eager to “fix” the situation that I can lose sight of the word-package I’m using. This was a good reminder that the “right thing” can be said in unhelpful ways. Thanks!

    • A.
      A. Ай бұрын +1

      @Robert Miller Right? That would be infuriating. And Simba definitely needs a good therapy scene lol.

    • Robert Miller
      Robert Miller Ай бұрын +5

      @A. ...and the object of her desperate quest is behaving really childishly. Of course her patience is short.
      It's interesting, that Simba still believes what Scar told him, despite being well past old enough to realize what rubbish it was, because he's never talked about it with anyone. One can imagine an alternate scene in which he does unburden to her and ends up saying Wow, I believed that?!

    • ritchie ashley
      ritchie ashley Ай бұрын +10

      I really appreciate this comment because usually people will comment from the perspective of the victim - which is valid, but do flawed people not use the Internet? I also struggle with this, and it’s nice to be reminded that other people are human too :).

    • Robert Miller
      Robert Miller Ай бұрын +6

      @Dark Creature in a Dark Room Yeah, that too. I was just thinking what I was like when I was that age...😮

  • Mallory Carpinski
    Mallory Carpinski Ай бұрын +6

    Your comment about Simba really taking on the mantle of king when he takes full and true responsibility for what has happened is so paradigm shifting and just great! This is why I come here!

  • Kelly Smith
    Kelly Smith Ай бұрын +5

    On the subject of Healthy Masculinity, Mufasa is a very good example of that concept in Lion King. I personally would very much like to see an episode about him on your channel.

  • Luigina Gardin
    Luigina Gardin Ай бұрын +13

    This was my all time favourite movie growing up. This episode hit me hard. My father told me similar things when I was a child and he was drunk. That I was stupid and useless. I’m 33 and I still have low self esteem and am unable to form friendships effectively. I always avoid it because I fear that people won’t like me or find me interesting,. I never thought it could possibly be related to my father because it was so long ago.

    • American Book Dragon
      American Book Dragon Ай бұрын +4

      Our self-talk didn’t spring out of ourselves. People told us these things when we were younger and no matter how much you used to disagree with what was being said, it snuck in our psyche.

  • CGI Andy
    CGI Andy Ай бұрын +3

    15:03 I feel this. My dad would get impatient/moody with me as a kid. I vividly remember this time when I wanted the pastry at the bottom of the jar but I didn't want to take the others out (I felt weird messing with them incase someone wanted them) and my dad came over and asked what I was doing. I told him, he took the tongs from me, and said "Let's do this the smart way". That hurt so bad bro and I felt so very dumb. I wish he was nicer about showing me another way to get the pastry out. Every now and again I think about it and it just makes me feel bad. I definitely agree with what you say here...

  • Cecilia Carlid
    Cecilia Carlid Ай бұрын +3

    I would say that Hakuna Matata isn't only bad for things you can do something about and good for when you can't. People in our society tend to give the Hakuna Matata advice (though with other words) so much that it makes you think you're *supposed* to be able to just let stuff go and move on; so when the scars are too deep to just do that, you end up suppressing the pain instead, which isn't healthy in the long run

  • Jocelyn Fisher
    Jocelyn Fisher Ай бұрын +442

    When Mufasa says, "You are more than what you have become..." I always smile because while Simba is not a bad son or person/lion, Mufasa holds him to a higher standard without putting him down (good parenting).

    • AriyaLauna
      AriyaLauna Ай бұрын +30

      @skybluepainter But kinder. "You are something, but you can be more than this." is the implication of Mufasa's words, as opposed to "You aren't much of anything - actually less than anything." being the words often hidden behind the common phrase.

    • skybluepainter
      skybluepainter Ай бұрын +16

      Always felt like a longer why of saying" You're better than this."

  • MMD-Determinat-ion
    MMD-Determinat-ion Ай бұрын +8

    i used to watch this on the daily when i was a little kid, and i think i connected with it and got over a lot of my grief of my dad passing when i was little since i related to simba in a really similar way, almost like someone was there with the same experience that i just went through. im glad to see you guys talking about this movie❤

    • booshkie
      booshkie Ай бұрын +4

      Same boat. I know everyone likes to drag Disney for killing the parents of all their protagonists, but for a lot of us it is healing to be able to relate to characters that suffer from that loss as well, especially as children.

  • nikki burns
    nikki burns Ай бұрын +4

    When I was a kid my little sisters favourite film was the lion king and for years, every time she would do something bad and get told off for it, her response was always, “it doesn’t matter, it’s in the past!” … I think she might have missed to point 😂

  • SquirrelGirl13
    SquirrelGirl13 Ай бұрын +1

    It's a small detail, but I love that, before Scar confesses, and Simba has already said the death was his fault, when Simba slips off that cliff, Nala calls out to him and still cares about him. It just... it fills me with warm and fuzzy feelings.

  • Dully Dust
    Dully Dust Ай бұрын +6

    For myself, Simba's walk up Pride Rock and the roar has never been the moment he turned king, but rather, for me, it symbolized the moment that the pride showed their loyalty to him

  • Thorsten Deal
    Thorsten Deal Ай бұрын +3

    When I was a young child I witnessed my best friends suicide, despite all the efforts I took he died and his parents immediately rounded on me and began screaming at me that It was my fault. I believed his parents for over a decade and held onto that guilt until I stopped being able to operate without the guilt motivating me. Thankfully after years of therapy I was able to get back on track some what

  • Amanda Hakes
    Amanda Hakes Ай бұрын +314

    The “Oh so you haven’t told them you’re little secret” scene:
    What came to my mind is that, had Simba told his version of that day on his own terms, it would have become instantly clear to his family that he was not to blame.
    But as soon as Scar sees that Simba didnt share anything, Scar 💯 took his chance to leave out context and replace it with insinuation so that Simba’s experience would automatically be seen through a frame that Scar could control.
    It hit me that people who want to hurt people use secrets and the best way to combat their manipulations is to always tell our stories/truths

    • AriyaLauna
      AriyaLauna Ай бұрын +25

      I don't think the lionesses actually bought that story. Neither did they not buy it. There was no time for it - their faces are still surprised and shocked, and their reactions do not go beyond the initial reactions anyone might have. Poor Sarabi, I think of how amazing of a story this could be told from her perspective. She just oozes "dedicated queen, wife, and mother" from every angle. And I don't think they would have bought it either - Scar was foolish for bringing it up. If he'd won, he'd have lost. The lionesses would have realized he knew Simba was alive and that he lied to try to keep his position. (What cub could have hurt a king, or even killed him?) But had he won without saying anything, they would have just had hopelessness and doubt. Defeating Simba would have been the nail into his reign.

  • 2headed
    2headed Ай бұрын +8

    I saw the Lion King in theatres when I was 7 and have never upon rewatching been as devastated as I was the first time. I didn’t want to lose MY dad. I thought he was immortal.

  • MagSul
    MagSul Ай бұрын +1

    Rafiki's dialogue is something I have leaned on and I shared that with my own therapist last year. It continues to be really helpful in getting me through the tough things! 😊

  • AriyaLauna
    AriyaLauna Ай бұрын +5

    "Well, that's not what I was taught." from Simba when he first meets Timon and Pumba is one of my (many!!) favorite lines of this movie. I love that as a kid he is strong and brave enough to question adults, even ones that are his food source, and how he even takes wisdom from them without questioning the validity of the source. Part-kid, but part parenting on Mufasa's part, I'd think.
    I'd love to get philosophical about the people who always have to be right and know everything about everything, especially as it felt you guys were half-way to explaining exactly why people are that way. We're taught in schools a lot of times that we are only worth what we know, and kids who were accustomed to making high marks are often turned to by both teachers and peers for help in teaching others. AND they're in the cruel jungle that is being surrounded by your age-mates. If on top of that, the kid is parentified or treated similarly at home --- what other trait do we expect for children to gain other than this? Mistakes are unacceptable for children in our current society, and that's really sad. And it really breeds a whole attitude of needing to be right no matter what. There's a lot of reason to love Mufasa's parenting, and Rafiki's guidance, and a lot of it is hidden nuggets all in the children's behavior.

  • RaelynnPlayz
    RaelynnPlayz Ай бұрын +1

    Rewatching this movie as an adult feel even better than before watching this as a child, when you no longer just enjoy the movie but your acknowledge how great it truly is.

  • Violet Feath
    Violet Feath Ай бұрын +13

    I would love to see you guys talk about the Christopher Robin movie! I think it’s great at covering the importance of making time for family and not loosing your inner child.

  • Kelarys
    Kelarys Ай бұрын +331

    Scar really is a perfect example of the monologuing villain causing his own demise. All he had to do was let him fall and die, but he just HAD to give him that burst of righteous fury to turn the tables

    • Pkmn Trainer Red
      Pkmn Trainer Red Ай бұрын

      @Skylar Griego If they`re overconfident & Egoistic enough, yes, even in real life

    • Izabela
      Izabela Ай бұрын +1

      @Margaret Schaufele of course it does. I always cry. Just like Alan. :)

    • Hebby Cakes
      Hebby Cakes Ай бұрын +4

      I've met people like this. They really think they're untouchable, because they got that far with no one raising a finger to them, so suddenly the tables turn and they realize they're NOT invincible.

    • TheGoldenDunsparce
      TheGoldenDunsparce Ай бұрын +2

      @Skylar Griego If you ever watched the anime Death Note, the villain's downfall was his need to have the last word too. If he didn't say anything, no one would have suspected him. Even once caught, he just HAD to try to justify what he did, and when told that he's a freakin psychopath, he ends up getting shot down because he can't accept it and had to attempt to fight back one last time

    • Margaret Schaufele
      Margaret Schaufele Ай бұрын +2

      @Izabela it's hard to tell. But he had time to rest before the big show down. It's not immediate like with Mufasa. Disney did a good job of making Mufasa's death utterly tragic and heartbreaking that it still makes us cry decades later.

  • Nguyên Nhi
    Nguyên Nhi Ай бұрын +1

    I'd love to see your reaction to Mulan (1998). It's a fantastic animation and speaks a lot about gender equality, about friendship, trust, honor and self-discovery. Plus the scores are spot-on and really elevate the whole film. As an Asian girl I resonate with the things Mulan had gone through and I'd love to see your reaction to the movie.

  • Wunsek Hobbies
    Wunsek Hobbies Ай бұрын +1

    There is a moment in someone's eyes when you can see sadness and guilt turn traumatic (Simba when told his father would be alive if not for him), and it destroys me every time.
    Exceptionally well-animated. Perhaps too well.

  • Ashley Lewis
    Ashley Lewis Ай бұрын +2

    Loved this! Lion King is one of my favorite movies.
    Speaking of Luke Skywalker and James Earl Jones I’d love to see you guys take on Luke and Vader’s relationship cause it’s so fascinating how Luke arrives at a place of forgiveness and love

  • Puzzle-Queen
    Puzzle-Queen Ай бұрын +1

    I personally love the scene where Rafiki shows Simba that his father might not be there, but its just through him, his son, he's still there. And that's personally what I love. I miss my grandparents and some who passed on in my life. Knowing that that scene is just reminding me, they'll be there no matter what. I am descended from them, as their grandchild they hoped the best for, that they will be apart me, their lessons, personality, and habits. Like some that my own grandparents have taught me, I carry some of that from them. That's one of the things I drew from the lion king as a kid and something I remind myself of as I grow older.

  • NinjaGidget
    NinjaGidget 8 күн бұрын

    The score of this movie is a huge part of what makes it so iconic. I can hear just a snippet of music from it and I get chills or tear up.

  • Aubrey
    Aubrey Ай бұрын +509

    I am grateful to have been raised by a father who is not afraid to be emotionally vulnerable, to cry in front of his children.
    But it gives me hope to consider just how many people have found your channel and witnessed two wonderful men to look up to as role models for their own health. I can only imagine how much healing you have influenced just in being yourselves. God bless you two! 🤍

    • JustAlpha
      JustAlpha Ай бұрын +2

      @Aubrey I consider my stepdad to be the real father figure of my life, as my actual father was unfortunately never really there for us due to his constant deployments.

    • Aubrey
      Aubrey Ай бұрын +2

      @JustAlpha that is lovely. My mom has that with her step dad as well, who she considers to be her real dad by all rights.

    • Aubrey
      Aubrey Ай бұрын +1

      @Mary Kate Zehr love this, I am so glad you have a similar experience!

    • Aubrey
      Aubrey Ай бұрын +1

      @Trina Q it really is!

    • JustAlpha
      JustAlpha Ай бұрын +8

      My stepdad came in when we needed a father figure the most and I cannot be more grateful for it. :)

  • Skylar Griego
    Skylar Griego Ай бұрын +1

    This video breaking down Simba’s confession scene at the end is the first time I’ve noticed that the part right after with Scar keeping Simba spinning while he calls him a murderer *perfectly* captures what it’s like to be spun in a manipulator’s web of lies. It’s impossible to get a clear perspective or ground yourself in reality because abusers like him are masters of keeping you disoriented so that their lies don’t fall apart. As someone who was emotionally abused by a master manipulator for years as a teenager, that really hit me deep. I’m so thankful to have that visual to help me explain to people why it can be so hard to expose your abuser even when the things they say are demonstrably false.

  • Sora
    Sora Ай бұрын +2

    Someone once asked me which Disney film has the saddest death scene in it and my answer was and always will be The Lion King of 1994. Mufasa's death and the manipulation from Scar will always make me cry even though I know it's coming.

  • Stadot
    Stadot Ай бұрын +3

    When y'all talked about how things with kids hit you harder as parents, I felt that. I'm pregnant right now and this past Christmas I heard a song at service from Mary's perspective and it just left me absolutely bawling.

  • Joseph Lewis
    Joseph Lewis Ай бұрын +6

    I used to watch this movie obsessively when I was a kid. Then I didn’t watch it for like 10 years and my wife and I watched it together and I sobbed the whole movie. Not even just the sad parts.
    One time we were in the car singing Disney songs and “can you feel the love tonight” came on. We began singing and as the chorus hit I began crying so hard I nearly had to pull over.
    Please tell me why I weep every time simba runs home. That shot of his feet running across the desert overlayed on him running triggers something deeeeeeep inside me.
    My wife is convinced (half jokingly) that I experienced some trauma as a child while this movie was on in the background. But to this day. At 27 years old with 2 kids I can’t even listen to the score in the car without bawling.
    Help me 😂

  • Kellie Horn
    Kellie Horn Ай бұрын +338

    I find it so beautiful and so interesting that when Simba is face to face with his father (in the storm cloud), Mufasa doesn't say anything about blaming Simba for his death. He doesn't even mention his death at all. That part isn't an issue for him. What matters to him is his son being true to himself and living a fulfilled life. Mufasa, you magnificent stud, you!

    • Deby Mello
      Deby Mello Ай бұрын +6

      @Claudia Manfredini would have spared at least five people including Ham himself. Maybe old papa just wanted company

    • Claudia Manfredini
      Claudia Manfredini Ай бұрын +4

      @Deby Mello Maybe Hamlet's father should have thought about it too...

    • Deby Mello
      Deby Mello Ай бұрын +35

      @Izabela My favorite theory is that it would ruin part of the message - speech after speech about taking responsability and ultimatly what makes him go back is vengence? Not a very good start for a kingship. "Great, my evil and fraticidal uncle is dead and my father avenged... Now what the fuck do I do?" Going ready to do the bigger right and finding the truth out afterwards wasn't the easiest or less painful way, but was the one with better chances of an actually good outcome.

    • Izabela
      Izabela Ай бұрын +16

      He could mention Scar being a murderer tho 😃

  • Gabriela Ferreira
    Gabriela Ferreira 29 күн бұрын

    "When adults tell us things when we're children and we internalize those messages, we have a hard time challenging them once we're adults"
    Wow, that really got me. Like, this is literally what I've struggled most in therapy. I have huge problems with my mother because she has undiagnosed/untreated mental health issues, and it took me going through hell and developing Borderline personality disorder to realize I'm not the things she told I am when I was a child. With border, I really hold things from childhood (the ones I remember, at least) as the truth.
    I thank therapy everyday because of the things its taught me. I really do. Actually, I wouldn't be here if it weren't for it. But sometimes, when the cracks in my mind are a little open... My mother's voice comes to me.
    So yeah. It's hard. But not impossible. It might take some time and healing, but I'm living proof that you can overcome this. As someone I once knew used to say, we are not our parents.
    And thanks Jonathan. You always know what to say

  • The Spit Take
    The Spit Take Ай бұрын +4

    I've always been fond of the phrase, "Don't let your message get lost in the mess."

  • Sharole
    Sharole Ай бұрын +2

    The whole discussion in this video was wonderfully insightful! The Lion King is one of my go-to nostalgic films from my childhood, and I just wanted to say thanks for giving me a completely new, enlightening perspective through it. Love this channel! Keep doing what you all do.

  • Jennifer Hall
    Jennifer Hall Ай бұрын

    I love watching your videos so much; one, because your hilarious commentary has me in stitches, and I value a good sense of humour - it's my primary coping mechanism in social situations. Secondly, your advice helps me to analyse things about myself that I never have before. It's reassuring to have the opportunity to dip a toe in the water before deciding to seek out help. I think, your videos are my 'Therapy Canoe'. Thank you for your amazing content - it's helping ❤️

    • Cinema Therapy
      Cinema Therapy  Ай бұрын

      Wow, we so appreciate your kind words. Thank you so much for watching!

  • Daniel Mark Abejay
    Daniel Mark Abejay Ай бұрын +550

    When Jonathan said "When people ask me 'I don't know who I am' I always ask them 'who do you want to be.' It hit me like a truck I almost teared up lol. I did not need this paired with my morning coffee sir

    • brigidtheirish
      brigidtheirish Ай бұрын +2

      @PMW Aww. Thanks! I hope so.
      I know Dad had similar worries with his much more obvious disabilities and I remember him being awesome. Also loud and in pain, but mostly being the best daddy in the world.

    • Polaricey123
      Polaricey123 Ай бұрын +4

      Reminds me of Hogarth from the Iron Giant, "You are who you choose to be." Somehow though, "I don't know who I am" followed up with "Who do you *want* to be?" hits so much harder

    • PMW
      PMW Ай бұрын +20

      @brigidtheirish You’d be surprised how the seemingly little things will make a child adore you. You’re presence when she comes home from school. Your excitement when she tells you about her day. The movie nights. Playing dress up for a little bit. Drawing crazy pictures. She’ll remember moments like those when you cared and she’ll enjoy you as a person more and more as she grows. Especially when she’s older and learns how hard it was for you. She’ll definitely see you as the greatest, most fun aunt ever!

    • brigidtheirish
      brigidtheirish Ай бұрын +15

      What hurts is that some of who I want to be isn't possible. I want to be the funnest aunt ever to my niece, but my health sucks and I have Asperger's. Being in the same *house* as that adorable bundle of energy is exhausting. I try, but the noise and need to interact with another person in real time drains me pretty fast.

    • DragonGamer0713
      DragonGamer0713 Ай бұрын +12

      Nope, I did cry and spent the whole episode in a limbo of trying to calm myself down and trying not to break down again when he said it in the episode proper.

  • Margarita
    Margarita Ай бұрын

    I am very grateful for the work you are doing. It really helps to realize thoughts that are sometimes scary to think about. And it's really important to understand that showing emotions is normal for all people and that toxicity is not good. Also, when I watch your videos, I learn to analyze films more deeply and they become much more interesting and useful for me. (There could still be a whole treatise about how you all are cool.) In any case, thank you for your cinema therapy. ❤❤❤

  • Kate 2 Create
    Kate 2 Create Ай бұрын +2

    Just thought to give my opinion about the scene where Simba takes a breather from Nala to privately grieve. Was happy you guys highlighted the impact that scene had even though it could have gone sideways with the delivery. From the animation perspective, just thought how much that part Sumba screams to the stars how he thought his father would always be there for him, the shot shows Simba even though he is physically bigger and older, the contrast of the big open sky reveals just how lost he feels. That shot conveys so much of how in reality Simba felt small and helpless just as he did when he ran away, carrying that scar and trauma. To then reframe the shot closer in a vulnerable moment of anguish so close up of an angle of a Simba feeling conflicted and humiliated that he couldn’t blame his father cause he redirected it all onto his shoulders. So glad you guys brought up the importance of how it was set up, cause if it wasn’t handled with care that delivery of emotions could have been easily missed.
    It’s a chef’s kiss moment of media entertainment and do subtly done 👏

  • Kathryn
    Kathryn Ай бұрын

    This is wonderful! Lion King was one of my favorite movies as a kid and still is. I really connected with your discussion about identity and having to counter negative voices that you absorbed as a child by seeing that those people are not good sources. I didn't think about identity as something you create as you grew. It was great to hear your analysis of all the different pieces of advice too. Alan you are right about about Hans Zimmerman's music when Mufasa appears in the sky. I listened to the piece when you cut out the dialogue with my eyes closed and I still teared up.

  • AtarahDerek
    AtarahDerek Ай бұрын

    Rafiki is the most underrated character in TLK, imo. He's got the funniest moment and one of the best bits of wisdom for Simba. And let's be honest, he was going SO easy on those hyenas. I don't know what a baboon/mandrill hybrid is like in real life, but mandrills can be utterly terrifying, and baboons aren't exactly Labrador puppies themselves.
    You should consider doing a reaction to Avatar: The Last Airbender. You'd probably have to choose a selection of episodes, but the three I'd love to hear your thoughts on are Zuko Alone, Sokka's Master and all of Sozin's Comet. The Storm and the Southern Raiders are two more backstory and character arc focused episodes that people love to analyze the heck out of.

  • Alix Kasimir
    Alix Kasimir Ай бұрын

    I honestly never comment anywhere, but I just have to get this off my chest:
    I grew up with quite a few negative messages and abuse through my childhood till late adolescence, that really shaped me to the core.
    And just as you mentioned, the motives of guilt, grief, trauma, fear, the past and the quest for acceptance and identity had been the loudest and most consuming in my life to date. Fortunately I am learning (and that probably still for quite some time) how to deal with them in a healthy way, so someday I will get to a point where harmony, contentment and having faith in my own capabilities and identity will be stronger and more present.
    And this video right here just really, really helps.
    I knew that this would hit me deeply, especially as soon as I saw the thumbnail, but I never had thought that some of Jonathan's sentences would give me goose bumps all the way down to the back of my knees. The Lion King was THE most watched, most formative and most tear-inducing ✨cinema movie film✨ of my childhood; I experienced so many feels through it. (THAT part still makes me sob to this day and I'm from 94')
    This movie has always had a special place in my heart and I'm so grateful that you covered these topics, praised it so much and gave us these immensely healing and instructive insights. And so this video will now have a special place in my heart too 💗
    Thank you so much to the Internet Dads and everyone who stands behind CT; what you do is sooo helpful and appreciated, I hope you know how much ❤

  • Trina Q
    Trina Q Ай бұрын +470

    I always loved Simba and Mufasa's strong relationship, and how devastating his death was for both Simba and the audience. It was likely our first experience of death in the media, and James Earl Jones did a fantastic job of bringing this lovable, charismatic father character to life.

    • Athletic Motivation
      Athletic Motivation Ай бұрын +1

      James Earl Jones’ scream was insane

    • Tyler W
      Tyler W Ай бұрын +2

      You really don't see very many good father-son relationships in media anymore, and that seriously needs to change. The closest thing we have right now is Kratos and Atreus in the new God of War games, but that's not even really "healthy." It's a story about the two of them developing a healthy relationship. Still positive in the end, but not the same.

    • Abby C
      Abby C Ай бұрын +1

      James Earl Jones didn’t bring the character to life… he literally died! 😂😂😂 laugh through the pain, right?!

    • Nicole💚💙
      Nicole💚💙 Ай бұрын +2

      @ShadowSkyX ah yes I swear Bambi was the first movie I cried to as a child. It was the first saddest thing that I had ever watched. Then it was lion king and that made me cry so much

    • Sylvir Giomanach
      Sylvir Giomanach Ай бұрын +6

      @ShadowSkyX it took me SO long to realize that Bambi's mom actually died. 😅 I thought they were just separated.

  • internetWeasel
    internetWeasel Ай бұрын +2

    AUGH thank you guys for doing tlk. my fav movie of all time. so grateful you put into words why it's such powerful writing i cry for the entire runtime, lol. love that you point out that even though scar was already planning on killing simba, he said those horrible things just to be malicious and cause emotional harm. and that you talk about how different and how much harder it hits as an adult than it did as a child.

  • Rebecca Blue
    Rebecca Blue Ай бұрын

    Your conversation at the end was very eye opening. I spent the first twenty years of my life being told the only good thing about me was that I was smart. My dad told me that people would be willing to overlook the rest of me if I could just prove myself smart enough. So to get something wrong meant I wasn't doing the only good things about me well enough. I started slowly burning out at university, and I still managed to get a 2:1, and when I told my dad he said I should've stopped being lazy and got a first. Because I "needed" a first to prove I'm smart enough to get a job where my issues won't get me fired. So it was like I'd failed the one thing I was supposed to be good at.
    But you know what? I've been at the same job for over a year now. (A year and a week if we're counting, which I am.) It's been rather eye opening too. No one yells at me when they point out a spot of dirt that I've missed, or if I put the sauce on the wrong side of a burger, or if I'm too tired to not frown. Heck, (most of) my coworkers actually like me! I didn't think it was possible. My dad admitted to me that he thought I was going to get fired within the first month, if not week, so I'm actually kinda proud that it's been an entire year.
    Sorry this is getting kinda rambley. My point was supposed to be that I'm one of those people who struggles to admit when they're wrong. I hate being wrong so much. And I think what you said at the end is something I probably need to work on with that.

  • M McLean
    M McLean Ай бұрын +1

    My sophomore year I got the opportunity to go to California for music tour. It was great! We got to go to Disneyland, and as a part of that, the bands and orchestras got to go into a recording studio to see and experience how the scores were recorded. It was beautiful! Our first piece that we did was that last bit as Simba is climbing up Pride Rock at the end. It was actually magical, especially as someone who grew up watching Disney movies.

  • ReiRei
    ReiRei Ай бұрын +1

    I think you guys would love to check out the Lion King 3 - it’s less known that the first 2 films cause it acts kind of like a prequel following mainly Timon and his journey. Watched it when I was younger and loved how they tackled Timon finding his own path and I think it would be a great episode for the channel if you guys ever consider it 😊

  • Darcenci
    Darcenci Ай бұрын +711

    The Lion King has always been deep even as a child
    But I think I understand it on a much deeper level as an adult now
    Kinda painful, extremely beautiful and a 100% worth it
    Can't wait to see your take on this you guys!
    Sending love to whoever is reading this ❤

    • Laura Henselmann
      Laura Henselmann Ай бұрын +16

      So true!! It's interesting to me how, as a child, I could just skip over the bit where Mufasa dies (that one was always too emotional for me) and be fine and enjoy the rest of the movie, while as an adult, actually grasping just the magnitude and gravity of the grief, guilt, identity crisis that Simba felt... I could just cry through at least halt of the movie😅

  • Rasmus Nielsen
    Rasmus Nielsen Ай бұрын +1

    When i watched this movie in the theatre back in the day, it was during a family event, where local kids were invited to watch it for extremely cheap, and it was late at night, so they had made it so it was encouraged to bring blankets and such, and just cozy up for a nice movie with the kids...
    So my mom brought my 7 year old self and my brother for the event, and after Mufasa died, they literally had to stop the movie for almost an hour for parents to get their kids (and themselves) to stop crying!

  • Justine Harper
    Justine Harper 4 күн бұрын

    I’ve seen this movie enough times that I can quote it word for word, but hearing Simba yell for help and seeing him cuddle up to Mufasa’s dead body, still rips my soul apart 😭

  • Helene Trøstrup
    Helene Trøstrup Ай бұрын

    I cried enough about this music yesterday... Went for a The Lion King concert kind of thing with my best friend yesterday. It was amazing. We had reservations about going because of the "live action" remake that we walked away from severely disappointed when it was in the cinema. It's THE movie of our childhood given that we're both '94 kids.
    I can tell when my best friend is enjoying something and when she is not, she doesn't have to talk to tell me. When something is getting good, she rubs her hands in anticipation. When she's getting really excited, she'll clap. If it sucks, well, there's nothing. During the "live action" she didn't even rub her hands once. Sure it looks pretty but that's pretty much the only good thing I can say about it. Yesterday they had a screen with a ... I suppose it's most accurately described as a drawn and animated puppet show with hand drawn puppets, pretty much just a sped up slide show. Visually it wasn't overwhelming, but it was much more enjoyable to experience. On our way home we considered taking our nature documentary idea a bit further (Because the "live action" just visually feels like a documentary) and consider just stripping it completely of voices and just going visuals and music or approaching it a bit like the Spirit Stallion of the Cimarron move with more or less only Simba's thoughts to guide us. 😆

  • cbrown1277
    cbrown1277 Ай бұрын

    I love this channel and you two so much. I’m so glad I found you guys a few months ago. Your insights are always so spot on and usually much needed. I love how as a kid, movies mean one thing to us, but then as adults, we see these movies in a new light. “Oh yes, the past can hurt. But the way I see it, you can either run from it or learn from it.” Such wise words from Rafiki that I understand more now as an adult than when I watched this as a teenager. Also, I can’t wait for you guys to react to Shuri’s stages of grief in Wakanda Forever. When I first saw this movie, I thought, man I can’t wait to hear what Jonathan and Alan have to say about this movie and especially about Shuri and her journey throughout the movie.

  • Brock Sells
    Brock Sells Ай бұрын +149

    I think why the death of Mufasa affects Jon more now than before is like what Alan said, he's a parent. As a kid, losing your parents/caregiver is a scary thought, but the idea of actually losing them doesn't seem as possible unless it's already happened to you. But as a parent the idea of dying and leaving your child behind is terrifying and is a very real possibility. I hope that made sense

    • SunnyStreet
      SunnyStreet Ай бұрын +5

      Holy cow, it does. I lost my dad when I was 4 and I can tell you how horrible it was for me. I didn’t even know death was a thing until he died, so you can imagine the confusion and heartbreak I went through. There was a lot of guilt in his passing as I got older, particularly as I get closer to the age he was when he passed. My mom told me much later that he once said that he’s not afraid of death, but of leaving me behind. I never really considered Mufasa’s POV until now, since I relate to Simba so much. I don’t have any kids yet but I’m sure that when I do, this will come to mind.

  • Isabelle Pohlówna
    Isabelle Pohlówna Ай бұрын

    I would SO LOVE to have you guys react to the French movie "Le fabouleux destin de Amélie Poulain", it's a classic and it's so rich in about everything.
    Her isolation, the helplessness towards the grief of her father, her detachment from the world around her and how she overcomes it, her loneliness, her journey towards opening up to the world, the painter with the glass bones, the grief of her neighbor about her husband and how she is idolizing their love, the stalker, the whole topic of heartbreak and longing to be connected, her angst and avoidance towards Nino while trying to get close to him. This movie has carried me through so many hard times and helped me not to stop dreaming, but also to accept that I am not like other people who haven't experienced the pain and trauma that I have and that each of us needs to find a way out of their shell and towards healing, in our own unique.
    And that you can touch and even change people's lives, just sometimes not in the way you intended or that the outcome isn't always what you expected. And that it's crucial to find miracles in everyday life and enjoy the small things that carry us through our pain.

  • Jesse Kelland
    Jesse Kelland Ай бұрын

    I only started watching you guys in the last couple of weeks but have been loving your videos. The start of this one really sealed that you guys are my kind of people when you called this one the 'real one' and how other one isn't live action. I got so annoyed when they advertised the other one as live action 😂 ~ I aim to misbehave

  • TheNinthDoctor
    TheNinthDoctor Ай бұрын +2

    I love this movie so, so much. I've now had the privilege and pleasure of watching the stage play as well, which had me in tears from "The Circle of Life" and then on and off throughout the whole thing. Love Hans Zimmer's wonderfully evocative, emotional score, the songs, and the powerful story itself.
    Thanks for this exploration!

  • Dara Lindsey
    Dara Lindsey Ай бұрын

    Can we just talk about the cut in the beginning?! Like HOLY SHIT WOW what a hook! The incredible swelling music in the background with Jono's smooth voice playing over it? The incredible cut of the scenes and the knowledge as to when to let the film speak for itself? The ending on Simba's majestic roar? I need to know how you guys got to be so talented, and can I have some please?

  • thedayaftertomorrow
    thedayaftertomorrow Ай бұрын +1

    I don’t usually ask for you guys to discuss films but I’d love for you to discuss the relationship between Gepetto and Pinocchio in the Guillermo Del Toro version and welcoming a new child into you life after losing one for both the parent and the child. That film has a beautiful discussion on grief, loss and a sense of self and I’d love for you guys to talk about that. ❤️

  • Liz K
    Liz K Ай бұрын +252

    As an adult who lost a parent semi-recently (a couple yrs ago), the biggest part I cry now is Cloud Dad part. Mostly because I wish I could have that moment with my Mom (actually came up in therapy that I wanted a Cloud Mom for even 5 minutes). I definitely had to explain what that meant to her, but I cried while explaining it. That song yup makes me cry every time. I love that Lion King provides a way for me (and I'm sure many others) to conceptualize grief because I had loads of trouble explaining my feelings and grief. Also advice for people, DO NOT WATCH this while on lunch break. Co-workers were really concerned.

    • Shauna Authier
      Shauna Authier Ай бұрын +1

      Oh, I totally agree, watching the lion king now having lost a parent hits harder than it did watching it as a child. I often wish to have a cloud dad moment to have some form of guidance because he always seemed to know what to say and do. I think we all strive to make our parents proud, whether it be our birth parents, adopted parents, whatever the case may be. That kind of loss is hard.
      I am sorry you have lost your mom, but think of it this way. You are your mother's legacy, and a part of her will always be around within you. Every day you wake up and face the day, you make her proud. Death is an unfortunate part of life, but it teaches us the value of what time we have left on this earth.

    • Narra Beckett
      Narra Beckett Ай бұрын

      Yep 😂

    • princessangel821
      princessangel821 Ай бұрын +11

      Same, they can't hear me tears over here😭

    • anna94
      anna94 Ай бұрын +14

      Thankfully I'm working for home today! 😅

  • madison Cluff
    madison Cluff Ай бұрын

    #jonathen Decker and Alan thank you for doing this channel as I have been working through my past and untangling the lines that have been blurred so badly I have always learned best by analogy and I love this channel I can use these examples to share what I’m feeling about a person in my family specifically my father or grandfather and have a character to base it off of. Thank you for helping me to recognize what I am feeling. I would actually love to come on and do a conversation with you on emotional abuse or something and meet you. But thank you

  • Blazestar & Sunfall
    Blazestar & Sunfall Ай бұрын +2

    This movie came out the year my dads mom died. He was only 15, which is how old I am now. My dad has always kept her memory alive, which has made this movie special for me to. It’s not uncommon for people to cry while watching the lion king, but every time I see it with my dad I can’t help but notice he’s remembering his mom.

  • low quality cat videos
    low quality cat videos Ай бұрын +1

    8:50 It made perfect sense for Elsa to be sick of rules and having to be responsible 24/7, she was expected to act like and adult since she was a child and carried so much guilt, self hate and disgust into her adulthood she HAD to snap eventually. It wasn't healthy and she wasn't happy despite being the queen. It wasn't a random person deciding they want to be a free spirit, it was someone who was miserable for their entire life finally letting themselves do something that made them happy

  • Emery Hiss
    Emery Hiss Ай бұрын +1

    I think the thing that stuck with me the most video was the comment on how we have a hard time challenging the internalized things we were told when we were children. Most of my mental health issues stem from two things that were said to me when I was very young. The first was from my older siblings, "none of us wanted you to be born" and the second was from my parents, "You're our last chance to get a kid right." I was maybe four or five when I heard these phrases, and I've been dealing with the internalized issues from them all of my life. I don't blame my family for these issues, because there was no malice when they said these phrases, and frankly they probably thought I was too little to really comprehend what they meant. I think children are both more perceptive, and more intelligent than people give them credit for. And at the same time, they don't necessarily understand what you mean, only what you say. What my siblings meant was "none of us really understood our parents' decision to have a baby when there were five teenagers in the house," but what little me understood was "you weren't wanted." What my parents meant was "We feel like failures as parents, and we want to try our best to make sure we do our best to help you grow up and live a good life," but what little me understood was "you have to be perfect or we can't be called good parents." This is why I think very carefully about what I say around little kids. Cuz the fact is, kids are like little sponges, absorbing everything around them and using that to build their identity. And if you give them something that could be harmful, it will get absorbed and integrated just like everything else.

  • Pinkmandy99
    Pinkmandy99 Ай бұрын

    That was an awesome episode! Thank you so much for covering the Lion King. And the straight faced silence after the joke at the end 😂

  • LunaTheBlackWolf
    LunaTheBlackWolf Ай бұрын +638

    If you guys aren't already planning on it, I'd love to see yall do a video for the sequel :) I was chatting with my sister about it as we watched this episode, and I think the sequel is a great example of how trauma can still linger after the initial source is gone, and the effects that trauma has on future relationships - especially with family. And something that made me think is the comment about Mufasa's advice being about Simba being the best person he can be instead of trying to be like Mufasa. In the second movie, when Kovu comes into the picture - even as a cub - Simba changes as a father and king because instead of seeing a lion being forced into his mother's revenge plans, he just sees Scar. And this point is really driven after the ambush that then leads to Kovu being exiled, the scratch on his face is all anyone in the kingdom (except Kiara) can focus on and they continue to treat him as a second Scar. And it isn't until Kiara puts herself between her father and Zira that he starts to see things more clearly as they are right now instead of reliving the past.
    On the one hand you sympathize with Simba because you know that he grew up without a father and is doing his best to raise his daughter. And while he has good intentions, his methods on top of his lingering trauma is having the opposite effect. It's a growing experience for both father and daughter :)

    • Proboy 237
      Proboy 237 18 күн бұрын

      Great idea to talk about the sequel

    • Lys
      Lys Ай бұрын +1

      I love the sequel for this reason. I think it's amazing this disney movie showed the impact of Simba's childhood trauma ACROSS films and generations. Simba is still tormented by nightmares of his father's death, can't look at Kovu without seeing Scar and his influence on him, and can't trust that Kiara isn't going to be harmed in the way he was. All while Simba's still navigating how to fulfill the role left behind by his father. Simba makes mistakes in the sequel, but it's not to the point where I feel frustrated like I do at other disney movie parents, because we underatand exactly why Simba thinks the way that he does, his decisions are logical with what we know of his trauma and fears. The Lion King is already one of my favourite films, and then The Lion King II is my favourite disney sequel.

    • Janette Karlsson
      Janette Karlsson Ай бұрын +2

      Maybe I'm just a bit rusty since it's been a while since I saw the movies, but my reasoning for Kiara to be able to see Kovu for the real him is because she never met Scar, while many of the others had, Simba obviously but during the song Not one of us it seems like the ones singing are probably older (old enough to have seen Scar) and the others are just following example, so while Kiara surely has heard about Scar she has never met him. That way she doesn't have the prejudice for his looks, the scar ect. Just a thought tho 😅

    • MauEvig
      MauEvig Ай бұрын +2

      Can I second this? I definitely agree with doing the sequel. Both the first movie and second movie have a lot of great things to look at in terms of trauma and therapy. I feel like cinema therapy picked a great topic dealing with trauma, and it's clear from the sequel that Simba suffers from PTSD. It makes him biased. It's understandable why Kovu would be rejected, but at the same time Kiara sees past that and sees he's a good lion even if he's on "the other side" so to speak.
      But I'd also like to see the cinema therapy look at other things too, like Scar's motivation for killing Mufasa, Mufasa's temper, Zira's obsession with Scar and wanting revenge and not being able to let things go (and when you think about it, Simba also has trouble letting things go so when you think about it, there's parallel), Kovu and how he rejects Zira's ideology, Nuka's desire to please his mother, and Kiara herself who sees through Kovu knowing he's a good lion but her own upbringing has left her insecure "I'm not brave, nor strong nor smart..." are her own words. Let's not forget child abuse on Zira's end! She manipulates her cubs, neglects Nuka who becomes a people pleaser, and her own daughter VItani she's quick to turn on who she sees as nothing more than a soldier and a pawn. One could even look at Timon and Pumbaa who are outcasts themselves and how they dealt with the past. There's so much to look at in the Lion King. Even the hyenas, who really just wanted a better life for themselves especially if you compare their motivations to Scar's in Be Prepared, the hyenas are hungry and starving and desperate for food so you can also look at their story and how they were manipulated. I mean, it's a therapy treasure trove when you think about it!

    • otter poppin
      otter poppin Ай бұрын +1

      Same! It's SOOOO good.

  • sybrix
    sybrix Ай бұрын

    The Lion King is my all time favorite Disney movie. At the time it came out I was 10, I loved the anthropomorphic animals, the beautiful scenery, I had the soundtrack on cassette, played the Sega Genesis game like 72 times, had the merch, etc. But I never really internalized how amazing of a redemption story it was, or felt the full range of emotions while watching it, because I was so young. After being in therapy to work on childhood trauma the movie just hits different now, in a very deep and beautiful way. And watching you guys talk about the themes and remembering some other iconic scenes has made me fall in love with this film all over again. It's just SO GOOD. I love you guys and your channel's work. Thank you!

  • Silvyx
    Silvyx Ай бұрын

    Even just four minutes into the episode, I already thought it was one of the most epic and most impactful that you've ever done. The rest of the episode only confirmed that for me. (Though I kept getting distracted from your advice by the scene playing out in the background XD)
    The whole 'right message, wrong packaging' thing hits me hard as a person who often uses humor and sarcasm as a coping mechanism and a way of communication. Sometimes I'll crack a joke or say something sardonic and people have a bigger reaction to it than I expected, or it ends up being unintentionally hurtful to someone. I'm trying to work on that because I'm definitely very anxious about interacting with people and messing up my relationships, and I don't want to end up taking my own feelings out on other people when I'm upset or hurting them when I want to help them.
    P.S. Could you guys react to Home? I feel like there's plenty to dig into there, from Oh's paradigm shift and making mistakes to Tip learning to accept him while trying to find her mom and the whole concept of 'sad-mad'

  • j!m!r
    j!m!r Ай бұрын

    Watching this video on the day that I'm introducing my "parents" to my 7-day newborn. The scenes plus commentary hit me like a truck, thank you guys.

  • ElliePhantom
    ElliePhantom 27 күн бұрын

    I honestly kinda resonate with cub Simba. My aunt passed 6 days before my 30th birthday. I was living with her at the time, and her boyfriend, who lived with her as well, was house-sitting for his sister. She had woken me up at 4 am, two hours after I'd gone to bed, complaining of chest pain and nausea. I brushed her off saying she was fine since she had a bad habit of faking illness to get attention and sympathy. She wasn't fine, and died two hours later in her sleep. I didn't wake up until 10 am, and I knew immediately something was off because she always woke me up early, regardless of when she went to sleep. I found her, had to make the call, had to contact her sisters (my mother and their older sister), and tell her boyfriend. Her boyfriend, once he was home, turned to me and said "It's your fault. You should have listened to her. You should have called an ambulance when she woke you up." Those words, over a year later, still haunt me and fill me with guilt and grief. I never had counseling after the death, and still haven't despite it affecting me to this day. This May 25th will be two years. Despite everyone else telling me I'm not at fault, and that I did nothing wrong, I will always blame myself with the "what ifs" that come to my mind.

    • ElliePhantom
      ElliePhantom 27 күн бұрын

      Side note; I think that the reason why when Scar blames Simba is even more impactful is that technically, he's not entirely wrong. If Simba hadn't been born, Scar would be next in line, as he stated in the beginning. He wouldn't have arranged Mufasa's death if Simba didn't exist. So he's telling a small truth behind a big lie and covering both with a guilt blanket.

  • K bee
    K bee Ай бұрын +150

    As someone who grew up with a manipulative father, whenever I see depictions of adults manipulating their kids my first reaction is to be infuriated to the point of crying because you know the struggle that kid will have to go through in order to reconcile how they were raised. Even just seeing the beginning scene where you see in Simba’s eyes the “reality” Scar presents to him sinking in for the first time. This movie doesn’t go into depth the process it takes to really unravel manipulative-based trauma, but it shows him overcoming it very well.

    • K bee
      K bee Ай бұрын +1

      @TheMeloettaful I so appreciate your sharing this and sending the equivalent of a virtual hug! :) I am doing so much better, and I have reconciled a lot of it (it's surprising how it happens) through faith.
      There are times where I have had to grieve not having a very healthy, loving father figure growing up, though I can acknowledge his effort in that he loved me the best he knew how. It doesn't make it perfect nor healthy.
      I'm just looking forward to treating others right and letting them know how much they're loved and can reconcile and be who they were meant to be, with or without a healthy parent figure. I hope you are doing better as well, and best to you in your future relationships!

    • elias arreola
      elias arreola Ай бұрын

      i dont trust you a lot of girl lie it hard to belive them now

    • brigidtheirish
      brigidtheirish Ай бұрын +6

      @TheMeloettaful Getting diagnosed is tough. Mine is sort of unofficially official because I pretty much check all the boxes but the mental health clinic I initially went to didn't "have the facilities to make that diagnosis," whatever the hell that means.
      Understanding helps a lot. With my dad, we bonded in large part over trying to figure out our own brains together. I felt a little less like a total freak knowing Dad's brain worked a lot like mine.
      Thanks. He's doing better. Honestly, he's kinda glad he didn't get a diagnosis early in life because of how *bad* psychiatric care was back then. He remembers the tail end of when lobotomizing "embarrassing" family members was popular among the "right sort" and had a couple bad experiences of his own. Including some hypnotherapy for test anxiety that worked *too* well. Even now, he's more than a bit resistant to letting anyone "under the hood." Having names for what's going on helps a lot, as do anti-depressants and ADD meds so he "doesn't have to fight the machinery."

    • TheLegendOfLivz
      TheLegendOfLivz Ай бұрын +1

      That's the sequel that does that.

    • TheMeloettaful
      TheMeloettaful Ай бұрын +3

      @brigidtheirish I often suspect that my dad is autistic (including myself), and that would explain a lot of his actions in the past & now (doesn't excuse them, but still). But he isn't officially diagnosed, and I'm not either.
      He probably wouldn't take to kindly to me even bringing this up. I would like to get diagnosed myself, but really don't know how to go about it. Anyway with so much awareness on mental health etc it's helped me somewhat come to terms with my dad. Don't know about my dad on his end (probably nothing).
      But it does help me understand him if only a little bit. But it's great your dad was truly making an effort for you growing up. I'm sorry he went through most of his life not getting help with his own mental health issues until late in his life 😔. I hope he is doing much better now 🙏.

  • TentenchiAMVs
    TentenchiAMVs Ай бұрын +1

    It's important to note where Nala is coming from when she's being so direct with Simba. The lionesses were basically enslaved by the hyenas through Scar's rule. While Simba was living a carefree life of Hakuna Matata, she was hunting for another species before she was even permitted to hunt for herself. So for her, Nala was living an oppressive life, flees from it to find help for everyone (not just herself), and stumbles upon her childhood friend and the king that should have taken the throne by now but he's been literally doing nothing while (in her eyes) HIS kingdom was run into the ground. So even though her approach wasn't the best, it's still a well-written and understandable one when HER PAST is considered.
    On a side note: How did Scar cause a drought? If Mufasa is implied to have caused the rain when Simba takes the throne, does that not imply that Mufasa also withheld the rain after Scar took the throne? That "reign" symbolism just HIT me! Mufasa was literally not allowing Scar to reign as king by stopping the rain from falling! And he allowed Simba to reclaim the throne by giving him rain so he could reign over his land! WHOA!!! I just figured out the wordplay while I was typing!!! This movie is SO WELL WRITTEN!!! 🤯🤯🤯

    • Deby Mello
      Deby Mello Ай бұрын

      Rule of symbolism is beautiful, but for the sakeof suspetion of disbelief... In the books it's implied that droughts happen every now and again, at least happened at least once in the reights of Mufasa and Scars' father and grandfather. In both cases, they went out of their way to find another source of food and water (grandfather) or to rationle (father) untill rain came back. Scar was unwilling to do either - he wanted to be king *of pride rock* and rationaling resources wasnt an option if he wanted to keep the hyenas as allies, since it was what caused the starvation they face in the first place (father realized hyenas often hunt for fun and disrespected the preservation rule, so he kicked them out). Plus, it's possible that the overhunting driving wildlife away caused some plants that depend of animals to reproduce - like defecating the seeds - to reproduce less, thus bringing less food, thus driving wildlife away in a snowball effect.

  • pakamausi
    pakamausi 24 күн бұрын

    Rewatching a lot of your Disney episodes, so, second time here. Can I ask who scripted and edited this episode? Because the editing on this is just *phenomenal.* I mean, it's the tiny little things, like the timing of the soundtrack to the scenes you picked, while overlaying Jono's narration in the introduction of the video... And the 'subscribe' animation showing 1993 likes turning into 1994 is just -- *chef's kiss* genius.
    Also, loved the shoutout to Hans Zimmer at 19:11. I was only 5 when this film came out, but at age 10 I got a bunch of Disney soundtracks and this one in particular turned me on to Zimmer. Ever since then, I've been in love with his work. You might say this was a gateway soundtrack 😅