Hello guys , does anyone know what would be a way to get started from a different area study? I got my undergraduate degree in chemcial engineering and I’m interested in becoming a PA
Man I bet all this is so overwhelming? Just by watching and seeing what ppl comment, smh. Who wanted to do a KZclip show about Doctor vs P.A anyways? Doc my question to you is do you feel insecure about something? Just asking. Wait that's a question your wife needs to ask you. My bad. You both have a good day. God bless
Where did she go for Pa in 4 year, please ? I really want to know bc I believe the fast program is 5 years . You graduate high school at 18 and 4 year in college. It can’t be 21 !!!!
@Steph Lyndsey from Joel: Youngest PA I ever met was 19 (!) when he graduated from PA school; oldest was 65 at her graduation. (This was back when PA was a bachelor's degree.) Younger people are certainly capable of exceptional achievements: check out the ages of some U.S. wartime heroes.
My husband and I are both in the legal field. He's and attorney and I am a paralegal assistant finishing school to become a paralegal. Its great to be able conversations and both understand the lingo and actual laws. We at times will debate the outcome of certain high profile cases. And our family is always calling for legal advice. But I am planning to go to PA school.
@Hannah I'll speak for myself. Right now I am in a "law clerk" program, right after I finish this 2 year program I can transfer to "paralegal" program. It's doable! Go for it if you are fascinated with legal field
It is easier to be married with another medical professional as a medical professional. A lot of the time people from another careers don't understand the schedule.
I'm a mechanical engineer and my brother is a nurse. Of course I don't know exactly what he goes through but I have seen enough to understand and never give him any shit over it.
Funny cuz many ppl say the opposite cuz they don't have time to understand nor time to dedicate their life to support the one in the medical field. It all comes down to experience
being a pilot, I’m sure marrying a doctor is a good choice🤣 cause we also need someone who understands our schedule and healthcare workers understand completely well, while other fields not really.....
You guys do not know how helpful this is! I am a senior in High-school and was trying to decide if I wanted to go the PA or MD route, as I have always wanted to be a pediatrician, and have just learned about how capable PA's are! Thanks so much for this!
I'm also a PA and I love when another fellow PA steps up to increase awareness of our awesome profession! I work in family medicine in Pennsylvania. I would like to add: yes, combination programs for undergrad and PA school still exist. I did a 5 year combined undergrad and master's program and at 23, I had my MS and sat for my PANCE.
Hi, im Farhad and i study at the moment physician assistant in Germany. My English ist also not so good but im traying to lern it. I will be very thankful if you answer my couple of questions: Can i finde a work in USA as physician assistant if i did study in Germany? How ist the situation about income?
I can’t imagine having “full autonomy” as a provider at 21 years old... I decided to go to med school instead of becoming an NP so I could have the extra schooling.
I'm currently a Pharmacy Technician. I do not want to become a pharmacist but still want to be in medicine. This is playing a big part on me deciding what I want to do. Thank you, it was very helpful and informative!
I'm looking at becoming a PA but I feel like I've had some questions that you can't look up on google and you guys helped answer those for me. Thank you! I hope you guys continue to make videos like these.
This video is awesome!! I am on my way to becoming a PA as well. Love that you're helping people become more informed of the role and life of a PA! It's crazy to me how many people are still in the dark. Your wife is incredible and if she ever wanted to start her own youtube channel I would TOTALLY watch every episode! PLEASE post more videos with her.
I both chuckled & grinned really hard during your whole video. Love your guys' relationship! ♥ Post my BSN I am seriously contemplating PA school since PA's are interchangeable where I have found that NP's are locked in a specialty. Thoughts?
Hey I thought this video was great, I am currently in PA school now so being able to hear both your views on the medical field was awesome and will help me in the future understanding what I will be responsible for vs. a doctor. I would love to see more on both you in videos! :)
Great video! My boyfriend is currently a medical student and I am pre-PA..would love to see more videos of Andriana talking about her career as a physician assistant and any recommendations she may have for pre-PA applicants :)
@guest guest from Joel: I spent 30 years as a PA working in a state psychiatric hospital. I would respectfully disagree with your statement that, "Mental illness and suicides are caused by abuses." While the mentally ill or suicidal can present with a history of abuse, such abuse doesn't necessarily CAUSE either issue. There is an ongoing debate on the influence of nature vs nurture in predisposing anyone to mental illness.
Sawyer R I read about residents working up to 80+ hours a week, that's absolutely crazy and unthinkable where I come from (Germany) you guys are getting exploited
@guest guest you really have that absolute worst comments in this thread, lol. How about these students are from humble backgrounds and they think that getting into medicine will make them money. Then they realize, there's no money and getting anywhere takes a looooong time. That would send anyone into a spiral
I am premed and had my first baby 4 months ago. After being with him, realizing that med school, residency, and fellowship for ortho surgery (my passion) is going to take me away from my family for so many years at a time. I am 100% going into medicine as a provider, but I’m heavily leaning towards PA so I can have much better hours and actually start practicing pretty soon. Thank you for uploading this video!
Thank you so much for this video! I am actually torn between both medical school and PA school routes. However, in the end, I needed to hear that a PA-C's schedule and their utilization as far as specialties are what I'm looking for. 🙌🏼 Best of luck for the both of you on continuing your careers and later enjoying a family along the way. 👌🏼
I'm a Firefighter/Paramedic and would love to either go to Med School or PA/NP school. I LOVE medicine. I got into this career field COMPLETELY by accident and I love it. The only problem is, is that you need to take certain math classes to get into these programs. Ie. Physics, Calculous, etc. and I would NEVER pass these classes (if I did, I would BARELY make it). Kinda sucks... I'm horrible at math and its been almost 10 years since High School, so I pretty much forgot everything LOL.
Seriously, my AMAZING PA is such a "Hero" in my life☆~She listens SO well, takes all my concerns & symptoms very seriously, while dealing with Lupus, Hashimotos, Heart/HBP, etc♡!!
I'd say it's a huge pro that they're both in health care. They both understand medicine and the stress that comes with it and the excitement that comes from seeing something new at work. My bf works in a factory so when I come home and tell him, omg! (I work in LTC) and we're so excited to be trying out a vac dressing for a resident with an ulcer that won't heal. He just stares at me and goes a what?! I have nursing friends just for nursing convos so I can def see why it'd be nice to have a health care pro in a relationship
I am in the medical profession and I for one cannot imagine marrying someone in medicine..I definitely wanted to find someone in a diff field one that I even thought would be not feasible for me such as engineering, architecture or even IT! My husband is a software engineer, and to hear his work stories is like a breath of fresh air! I have colleagues that are on the opposite side of the spectrum who definitely love the fact they are both in medicine and have a different understanding of each other. However I did find that when both spouses are Physicians life is definitely different and often I see fellow female physicians sacrificing their profession to stay at home for a while with the children and resentment starts to grow. Just an observation I made in the last 3 years during my residency and hearing all of the stories.
Can you do a video explaining how your time is spent during the work day? How much of your day is spent seeing patients, writing orders, charting, etc for both PA and MD?
Starting college, I thought I was going to do PT, but after shadowing in the hospital, I started to get more interested in nursing, PA, etc. I thought about going to med school, especially since my mother and sister pursued it, but I just know I don’t want to go through all of that. Problem is, having them pursuing medicine made pursuing nursing or PA school questionable (i.e. why don’t I just be a doctor at that point). I still go back and forth because the PT program I’m in is accelerated and secured into grad school, but if I want to switch to a PA track, I’m scared I’ll have to reapply. At this point, I’m just blabbering so I’ll stop before I get into another cycle of uncertainty and fear of the future lol.
from Joel: Isabella, when I became a PA in 1980, 15-20% of my PA classmates went on to med school. I'm not sure I'd recommend that path, and I doubt it's done much, if at all, nowadays. I did meet a number of PA students who applied to both PA school and med school -- the med school option was Plan B in case they didn't get into PA school.
Y'all are awesome! My husband and I have recently been at a crossroads for whether he should choose the pediatrician or PA route and this video was super helpful! Not only did I love the fact that y'all are married too but also that you both provided insight from both physician and PA perspectives. Good luck with your residency and I hope God blesses y'all with beautiful baby Cellinis! I look forward to watching more videos!
Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦! Your channel is the first realistic and down to earth medical channel I have encountered so far. No exaggerating and fake talks here! I love it! I'm a premed student right now and I was wondering if you can make a video about your premed journey!!! Thanks a lot! 😊
Really enjoyed this. I'm in my mid 20's and strongly leaning towards PA school. I absolutely love the idea of doing what physicians do. I really hate being in school though. It took me awhile to settle on the medical field, and even longer on the PA path. Unfortunately I'm trying to play catch up with my undergrads. Honestly I'm really jealous of the people my age in PA school or even graduating right now. I kick myself every day knowing that could have been me if I had played my cards differently. Sometimes I feel like I'm too far behind to start this path. After all, my 20's will be long gone before I can even think about working as a PA... I generally see consistent job satisfaction with PAs though, and that's really motivating to me. I know they make WAY less than MD's, but if it means I can get to work quicker as a professional, I'm all for it. I can see myself as a great psychiatric PA. But I've still got a long road ahead and that brings me down sometimes. I really appreciate videos like this though. Please keep it up. Its just the sort of thing people like me need to hear once in awhile.
This hits home. Although I'm still young (18) and still experiencing things. I wish I had more guidance before I entered my university. There were factors that made me choose my university, but those decisions were solely based on other people and not myself. I'm stuck on the 4 years undergrad and ~2 years PA school. However, I was lucky that my school has a major with an option in pre-PA. I wish you luck on your journey and keep your head up!
Very helpful video as someone who is choosing between different fields (pharmacy school and PA school) thank you guys for explaining in depth and with such fun attitudes!
For some PA programs they require you to take the PCAT. Which of course is the pharmacy entrance exam. Thought I'd like to share that. But nonetheless do you want more patient care or are you more fascinated with the pharmaceutical aspect of things?
The most difficult thing in marrying a medecine is the difference in work time you don't get that much time to actually live outside work but it's a lifestyle on it's own and it's good to see you accepting it posetivly and not considering it as a problem
Here in New Zealand we don’t have PAs , Practicing medicine is exclusively done by a medical doctor , now NP too (with some restrictions ) It’s unusual for the Medical Council to register a degree with the name of “assistant “ and also without 6 year medical school and at least two years of postgraduate internship before going to a residency program. I ve heard in the UK there as some PAs. I hope one day we get PAs here in New Zealand.You guys are pretty much needed.You do a great job!!!
Seeing this now, being in my late 20s Im in the same about having the desire and uncertainty about getting into PA school. I myself just started working as a PCA now studying to get my certification and in school for PCT cert. I’m just now discovering this after my younger self wanting to be a doctor and finding the flexibility in practicing sooner as a PA C, I’ve been there wanting to kick myself about it but I think as long as its happening now it might’ve been your time. And just get into it. Seeing this informative video helps encourage that. I’m debating whether to leave my Pct program and research a pa school. And just work as a cna. They say the best nurses/medical professionals start as a cna lol
Wow you guys are goals 😍. I’ve been considering getting into either PA or going to med school for radiology after my bachelors in radiation therapy and this video really helped! You should make a part 2!
from Joel: Excellent discussion! After a career as an Army officer (Signal Corps), I became a PA at age 42 in 1980. I started at $15K/year (!) and retired after 30 years, all of it in an inpatient psychiatric hospital. Back then a PA was a bachelor's-level degree; now it's a master's. I particularly liked your touching on the fact that a PA is trained as a generalist and can seamlessly transition from one specialty to another, whereas an MD cannot do so without going back through a second (3+ year) residency. Over time, I've had a number of older docs tell me that if PA had been an option when they finished college, they'd have gone the PA route rather than going to med school. (The first PA's graduated from Duke in 1967.) And, in the same vein, I've met a number of PA's whose parent(s) were docs; those parents urged their offspring to become a PA, and none of those involved regretted that choice.😀
Thanks for this video. I didn't know there was so much flexibility for PAs. I've never really wanted to be a doctor, but the PA route sounds interesting.
Such a cute couple!! Thanks for the info! Thinking about going into PA school after 10 years of being an RT. I am married and we have 2 beautiful boys (4&8). What are you guys’ advice on dealing with family/kids and going through PA school?? How/is it possible??
How did your wife become PA in surgery? I am thinking about getting my PA after nursing school, and I would love to be as involved in surgery as possible. (particularly in orthopedics or cardio surgery) I guess my real question is; Do you just have to look for a job in surgery and get lucky, or do you have to work your way up and specialize in surgery?
Soooo very helpful. I have to nail the many variables in professional health services, as in my job we tailor specific courses for students/MD's/Specialists who are interested in experiencing full immersion in the Spanish Language or a great On-line solution... from the very Heart of Mexico: San Miguel de Allende!!! Good job you guys!
more about physician assistants please! thats what I want to go into, and Id love as much information as i can get about the profession. Im currently an undergrad health sciences: pre-clinical major, and I graduate in the summer of 2020. ill be applying for PA schools starting in 2020, and I am going to look into scribe jobs soon for experience and DPC hours. if Adriana could also go into what to expect when applying for programs, as well as how to make yourself more competitive, etc, that would be amazing! cant wait to see more of your videos! i just subscribed :) thanks guys!!
I would love to know how her experience as a dermatology PA. I’m a freshmen in college and really want to go into that path. Thank you so much for the video, it was very helpful!
What school did your wife go to? Its amazing she was able to complete her career so quickly. I also want to be a PA I’m really interested in seeing more videos with her :)
This was so helpful! I am going to school right now to be a PA. I get my AA in June and then I will continue my education towards PA. This just helped push me even more to be a PA and I know I am making the right decision. Plus she is so pretty! thanks guys (:
I love how you both respect each other’s career and roles in medicine. I am in PA school right now and I have a fear that some doctors will not respect me as a provider.
Woah. I didn’t know PA’s existed. I thought the only way to get a job where your medically helping people was to go to med school and become a doctor. It’s actually really cool to know there is a financial option I can afford to do instead. Coool.
@Lisa you are a legit queen for replying to people months later. Your replies are so detailed, these were the kind of responses I wanted when I was picking careers. Thank you for helping so much people out!
@Lisa good to know! i guess i'll steer clear of applying to schools in FL then hahah..my GPA is a 3.3 :/ im planning to take a few more classes to bring it up
wishfuldreamer2396 don’t know what my SGA was. Back when I applied I didn’t know there was a way to see how they broke it down and what they gave you. I had As and Bs in my sciences with one C. Was never asked about the C. I had a total of 6 interviews over 5 years, one waitlist I didn’t get in and 2 acceptances. I applied to basically all Florida schools. 4-7 schools each year. Some years I applied to less because it’s expensive. It was about 1k to apply to 7 schools in 2012.
This is my first time on your channel and I loved the info I got here! I can't believe you were a practicing PA at 21! I'd love to hear more about PA schooling
Y'all are so cute!! I love how you guys finish each other sentences omg. This video is so helpful! I'm still deciding with path I want to take, so this is great information to know about both PA and MD! :)
Hello! I am a mid-career person and have an undergraduate degree & MBA in Finance; however, I am now considering PA school, so I have two questions for you guys: 1) How do you think an older individual would be perceived in the applications process for PA school, in the PA program and then ultimately when searching for a job? Do you think experience in another profession would be valued (to a small degree) in the interviewing process? 2) On another video they said that you would want a GRE score in the 40th or 50th percentile. Do you agree with this or have any additional thoughts on what a competitive GRE test score would be? Thank you! Evon
Excellent video ! I am a physician and work with Excellent PA's and NP's, These 2 groups are physician extenders: meaning they are supervised by physicians and SIGNIFICANTLY increase a physician's ability to provide quality care for more patients at the same time. Physicians do have more training. Generally PA's and NP's make very good money and have better hours
I am a retired PA, but I get an occasional look at a radiograph on Facebook or something and it is surprising (to me) that I can read them better than I could when practicing. Throughout my entire career I did not do a good job of getting "the big picture" before I read the film. I once missed multiple rib fractures. The radiologist had read the film as negative, my supervisor had read the film as negative, I didn't see anything wrong with the lungs and I showed it to the patient. In less than five seconds he'd found 5 non-displaced fractures. ¶ Another patient, a three-year-old, fell out of bed and "hurt her shoulder." I ordered a shoulder film. Perfectly good glenohumeral joint. I reassured Mom and sent her home. Well, she had a manubrio-clavicular dislocation. I saw it (after mother and child had gone home) when I glanced at the film from across the room. There is a term in French, idee fixe, the fixed idea. It will catch you every time.
Very cool - thank you! I wish we had the PA scheme in more medical systems - PAs play such a vital role in healthcare. Great to see how well the two of you interact in your work and life relationships! More power to you - and stay safe in these challenging times.
Hey Dr. C, I have a question for your wife. Can you ask her what would be the entry-level salary for a PA straight out of school after passing the PANCE? This is assuming you’re in Southern California and you want to go into fields such as internal medicine, neurology, diagnostic radiology, endocrinology, or ophthalmology? I wouldn’t accept anything below 100 K right out of school. Is that doable?
You guys are adorable. Hope you're doing well as you get closer to making baby Cellini's (unless you already have)! As a new RN I'm never sure what to call our PA's... doctor, PA so-in-so or what...
Undergrad and PA in four years?! Wow, that’s incredible. A practicing PA at 21 👏🏼 what school did you go to? Haven’t seen any combined programs like that. Sometimes at shortest it would be 5 years
Ok you two rockstars... advice for a mid-life career pivot from a high school science teacher for the past decade?? Definitely into the flexibility of PA, but like the deeper dive of MD training. Love neuro, but could also see myself in primary care/peds and educating parents, families. Where I live PA is 3 yrs. Currently 37, applying this cycle and need to make a decision ASAP. Choice 3: genetic counselor. Choice 4: stay in education bc it is still fun/enjoyable, do health coaching and teach yoga on the side. If you know any career switchers let me know!
Loved it! My career goal plan is to become a PA so found this beyond useful. Can a PA do something like Drs without boarders? Or anything like travel nurses?
Trying to decide between pursuing PA or MD. What is the difference in depth of education between the two professions? For example, if both a med student and a PA student were studying hypothyroidism, to what extent would the PA and MD education be the same? In what ways would the education differ?
I would love your advice on what it would take for me to become a P.A.! I am a certified medical assistant so that I could start working while also going to school to get a bachelors to get into P.A. school. I ended up having my first baby who is now 2, and as of now another on the way! I wanted to have my career and since kids I had to put it all on hold. 😭 What would be your advice to become a P.A. NOW!
You two are super cute! Just found your channel and my daughter has been trying to decide which route to take. Sharing your video with her now. Best of luck to you both! God bless. 💕
Can you do a video comparison for being a PA vs a MD? I am currently in school and am back and forth on what route I should do. I am deciding either PA neurosurgery or Neurologist with a MD. Like I want to know what a PA does in neurosurgery, what can they do in the OR? Do they do more post op care?
With someone who has a Bachelors degree (business technology), how many classes or yrs would it take to go back to school and get certified as a PA? Would online classes work to get this type of degree?
What I like about P.A.s and often prefer them to doctors, is because they're not as desperately cranking the money wheel to pay off their student debts. So they spend more time listening and paying attention to your problem than doctors do. And are usually much more easily accessible than doctors. I use my judgement and sometimes will see both a doctor and a PA for the same problem to get 2 different approaches to it.
The only problem I have with PA’s is the name. In no way is he/she any kind of “assistant.” Must have been thought up by a doctor. My wife and I see a PA in a family practice office (with a good doctor too), and we love her. She’s very smart, empathetic and accessible. Could not be happier.
So you were talking about the hell that is residency. Does it get better when you're through with residency? Like do you work fewer hours/have a less stressful schedule once you're done with residency? Would love to know what to expect during residency and how it compares to work life!
Great video...you have a nice perspective on it since you get to “see” what PA’s do firsthand👍🏻 This would be like a dentist and advanced dental hygiene practitioner....many similarities!
I'm a Pharmacy Technician currently, but hope to go to PA school to be a PA. I don't think people understand how rigorous it is, and also how hard it is to get in. But according to a lot of people's comments I've seen on here, I guess Pharmacy Technicians shouldn't exist, either. Only Pharmacists. People don't understand that there is a varying degree of skill and knowledge that's appropriate for what they do.
Hey everyone, I am currently trying to find out how one could improve the productivity of a health professional busy like you ;) Which is why I have two quite simple questions: 1. As a health professional, what are the 2 biggest issues you are dealing with regarding your productivity? 2. Regarding your productivity, what would you wish for more than anything else? Thanks so much in advance - looking forward to reading your answers!
I enjoyed your video and welcome as much info as possible to explain the PA profession to the public. Very helpful! Even now they are jimmying around with our name! I hope it starts with "His Veritable Eminence, but it probably won't. Still, I wish I had a dime for every time a patient asked me "Why didn't you just become a doctor?!" I met Dr. Stead personally and worked with a psychiatrist colleague of his for years. So, as an experienced PA for several decades, I would like to add this comment: Each and every PA is governed by the medical laws of the state they are licensed and work in. It varies from state to state. I say "work in" because in my state (NC) a PA does not technically "practice" medicine. The NC Medical Act defines a PA as "performing medical acts, tasks, and functions." Nurse practitioners, on the other hand, are listed as being able to "practice" medicine. This is huge oversight, but makes a crucial difference. Why? For a number of reasons, but mostly reimbursement and autonomy. By not being able to "practice medicine," PAs are not allowed to be individually credentialed with Medicare, Medicaid, and some other insurance companies for reimbursement. Therefore, they must bill those services under their supervising physician's NPI, and he/she must be physically present at the practice. So if a PA happens to own and operate her own clinic (a medical practice?) she still cannot legally bill under her group or individual NPI, if her supervising physician isn't inda house. A Nurse Practitioner, on the other hand, may practice independently. Not fair? Well, it has to do with the semantics in the various Medical Acts - usually enacted by non-medical wise guys, and the folks who take them out to dinner. There are many other State differences too, that was just an example. Some states still don't allow PAs to prescribe controlled substances. My state will not allow me to prescribe a controlled substance (or change a prescription for one) after three months without consulting my supervising MD and gaining his approval. So if I work in psychiatry, I can't refill your Adderall on month four, regardless of whether you have been stable on it for years, unless I consult my MD. Very dumb. If I want to decrease your pain medication, gotta ask the doc! I will say that most supervisors are awesome, but even a detailed, generous collaborative practice agreement cannot undermine the applicable medical statute. I could go on but you get the point. Years ago, I worked a locum tenens job in the Aleutian Islands of Alaska (Yes, it was a blast BTW!) but I was unable to suture fishermans' laceration (90 percent of the job) until I obtained permission from an MD who also was required to sign the note. I hope it's not like that anymore... ...but it depends on the state! On the other hand, I was trained in the Air Force, and because you can't sue Uncle Sam, I was doing vasectomies on day two (an exaggeration, sort of) and zapping vocal cord nodules on day three. On the outside, it's up to the fat cats at the state capitol. In Mississippi, not long ago, a monkey on an organ grinder could practice more medicine than a PA. In conclusion, if you want to know what the limitations are on a PA versus an MD, please consult your state's medical statute. The best docs and PAs practice medicine in community with each other, and other providers, because they love people, and love to help them feel better. And then there are others... ; ) Thank you for what you do! Amen. JD.
Q for your wife: Do you think you could manage being a mom if you were a Doctor instead of a a PA? Q for you both: If you don’t mind, what is the difference in your pay? (Sorry if invasive, trying to decide between)
marigold moon the average PA is paid 108k according to occupational outlook handbook. Depending on where I work upon graduation I’m aiming for 90-100k as a new grad. I do not know the numbers on MDs but it’s definitely higher.
Great video! My fiance and I really enjoyed this. I am currently a nursing student and just found out about PA's not too long ago. I am interested in the PA program. Do you think nursing school and nursing experience would be helpful for the PA program?
I graduated 2017 DPT, I'm 28 y/o. I've been practicing for 2 years and I'm thinking of maybe going back to school to be a PA. I just find PT to be underpaid and overworked. We have a doctorate but I feel we're not respected or treated like we have one. And for the better paying jobs (SNFS) the productivity is so high we can't really treat as well as we'd while being over PTAs, collaborate with OTs/RNs and perform all the additional paper work etc. I'm really nervous about thinking of going back to school but I just see myself getting so burnt out and overworked as a PT.
I'd like to see a video of Radiologist Assistant versus Physician Assistant, especially after you mentioned PA's in IR. Did you mean RA? I know that Obamacare affected the autonomy of RA's, so it would be interesting to hear your take on that.
Hello Dr. Cellini. Thank you for making this video. I’m in the middle of choosing if I should do med school or PA. Watching this video helps me clear a lot of things! I do have questions hoping that you could answer. What does a full-time surgery PA does? What is the difference between surgery PA and a trama PA?
You guy are so cute!!!! PA was my major I left school to have my daughter. I also have a back ground in medicine. I wouldn’t totally love to find a husband in the medical field. You guys get each other’s passions. I’m so going back💕
I'm still considering going back to school to become a PA I was a CNA for 8 years, a RN for 6 and got burnt out and went into construction where I'm at now. My biggest hesitation is cost of school with massive debt
Hope you guys enjoy my special guest!! 😍
Hello guys , does anyone know what would be a way to get started from a different area study? I got my undergraduate degree in chemcial engineering and I’m interested in becoming a PA
I want job study physician assistant course in India please help me
Man I bet all this is so overwhelming? Just by watching and seeing what ppl comment, smh. Who wanted to do a KZclip show about Doctor vs P.A anyways? Doc my question to you is do you feel insecure about something? Just asking. Wait that's a question your wife needs to ask you. My bad. You both have a good day. God bless
So we are just going to ignore the fact that she was a practicing PA at the age of 21!!!
Where did she go for Pa in 4 year, please ? I really want to know bc I believe the fast program is 5 years . You graduate high school at 18 and 4 year in college. It can’t be 21 !!!!
She is super smart and has an awesome memory I would bet..
Seriously we just went past that. Lmao
@Steph Lyndsey from Joel: Youngest PA I ever met was 19 (!) when he graduated from PA school; oldest was 65 at her graduation. (This was back when PA was a bachelor's degree.) Younger people are certainly capable of exceptional achievements: check out the ages of some U.S. wartime heroes.
She started at 18
My husband and I are both in the legal field. He's and attorney and I am a paralegal assistant finishing school to become a paralegal. Its great to be able conversations and both understand the lingo and actual laws. We at times will debate the outcome of certain high profile cases. And our family is always calling for legal advice. But I am planning to go to PA school.
@Hannah I'll speak for myself. Right now I am in a "law clerk" program, right after I finish this 2 year program I can transfer to "paralegal" program. It's doable! Go for it if you are fascinated with legal field
What type of classes did you have to undergo to become a paralegal? And do you think its worth becoming one?
Fantastic video! Great synergy. Cool to see the parallel of the collaborative relationship between a husband and wife and a Doctor and PA.
How are you doing today my name is Eric moore
It is easier to be married with another medical professional as a medical professional. A lot of the time people from another careers don't understand the schedule.
I'm a mechanical engineer and my brother is a nurse. Of course I don't know exactly what he goes through but I have seen enough to understand and never give him any shit over it.
Funny cuz many ppl say the opposite cuz they don't have time to understand nor time to dedicate their life to support the one in the medical field. It all comes down to experience
being a pilot, I’m sure marrying a doctor is a good choice🤣 cause we also need someone who understands our schedule and healthcare workers understand completely well, while other fields not really.....
So true
@Fernanda Römer that's true.
You guys do not know how helpful this is! I am a senior in High-school and was trying to decide if I wanted to go the PA or MD route, as I have always wanted to be a pediatrician, and have just learned about how capable PA's are! Thanks so much for this!
I'm also a PA and I love when another fellow PA steps up to increase awareness of our awesome profession! I work in family medicine in Pennsylvania.
I would like to add: yes, combination programs for undergrad and PA school still exist. I did a 5 year combined undergrad and master's program and at 23, I had my MS and sat for my PANCE.
Hi, im Farhad and i study at the moment physician assistant in Germany. My English ist also not so good but im traying to lern it. I will be very thankful if you answer my couple of questions:
Can i finde a work in USA as physician assistant if i did study in Germany?
How ist the situation about income?
Leen A google
Andie Bunker where can we find these schools?
I can’t imagine having “full autonomy” as a provider at 21 years old... I decided to go to med school instead of becoming an NP so I could have the extra schooling.
@Ariel Farra same
@Jay Shah May I ask why you feel PA is a better choice than NP. I’m a Sophomore in high school and these two jobs are my top options thus far.
good decision!
I'm currently a Pharmacy Technician. I do not want to become a pharmacist but still want to be in medicine. This is playing a big part on me deciding what I want to do. Thank you, it was very helpful and informative!
This was super informative, thanks guys! She’s so lucky to have gone to a school that allowed her to get that all done in four years!!!!
I'm looking at becoming a PA but I feel like I've had some questions that you can't look up on google and you guys helped answer those for me. Thank you! I hope you guys continue to make videos like these.
This video is awesome!! I am on my way to becoming a PA as well. Love that you're helping people become more informed of the role and life of a PA! It's crazy to me how many people are still in the dark. Your wife is incredible and if she ever wanted to start her own youtube channel I would TOTALLY watch every episode! PLEASE post more videos with her.
more to come, don't worry!
I both chuckled & grinned really hard during your whole video. Love your guys' relationship! ♥
Post my BSN I am seriously contemplating PA school since PA's are interchangeable where I have found that NP's are locked in a specialty.
Thoughts?
The Doctor and PA should be a regular session. It is so nice to hear both perspectives.
Hey I thought this video was great, I am currently in PA school now so being able to hear both your views on the medical field was awesome and will help me in the future understanding what I will be responsible for vs. a doctor. I would love to see more on both you in videos! :)
Great video! My boyfriend is currently a medical student and I am pre-PA..would love to see more videos of Andriana talking about her career as a physician assistant and any recommendations she may have for pre-PA applicants :)
Could you talk about the increase rates in med students and physician suicide. It’s a huge unspoken issue in the medical field.
@guest guest from Joel: I spent 30 years as a PA working in a state psychiatric hospital.
I would respectfully disagree with your statement that, "Mental illness and suicides are caused by abuses."
While the mentally ill or suicidal can present with a history of abuse, such abuse doesn't necessarily CAUSE either issue. There is an ongoing debate on the influence of nature vs nurture in predisposing anyone to mental illness.
@Gustav Gurke in Germany is there a law against this
Sawyer R I read about residents working up to 80+ hours a week, that's absolutely crazy and unthinkable where I come from (Germany) you guys are getting exploited
Sawyer R I'm a straight male PA. There are plenty of us. My class was more like 60/40.
@guest guest you really have that absolute worst comments in this thread, lol. How about these students are from humble backgrounds and they think that getting into medicine will make them money. Then they realize, there's no money and getting anywhere takes a looooong time. That would send anyone into a spiral
I am premed and had my first baby 4 months ago. After being with him, realizing that med school, residency, and fellowship for ortho surgery (my passion) is going to take me away from my family for so many years at a time. I am 100% going into medicine as a provider, but I’m heavily leaning towards PA so I can have much better hours and actually start practicing pretty soon. Thank you for uploading this video!
@Erin Stevenson so where are you from
@Erin Stevenson okay cool
@Eric Moorev hi I’m doing well.
@Erin Stevenson how are you doing today my name is Eric moore
You were Premed and got pregnant? Good Lord!
Thank you so much for this video! I am actually torn between both medical school and PA school routes. However, in the end, I needed to hear that a PA-C's schedule and their utilization as far as specialties are what I'm looking for. 🙌🏼 Best of luck for the both of you on continuing your careers and later enjoying a family along the way. 👌🏼
I'm a Firefighter/Paramedic and would love to either go to Med School or PA/NP school. I LOVE medicine. I got into this career field COMPLETELY by accident and I love it. The only problem is, is that you need to take certain math classes to get into these programs. Ie. Physics, Calculous, etc. and I would NEVER pass these classes (if I did, I would BARELY make it). Kinda sucks... I'm horrible at math and its been almost 10 years since High School, so I pretty much forgot everything LOL.
I'm sure u will do good don't give up follow your vision
Love the collective vibe and energy, you two 🖤 Great info as well, just what I was searching for - Thank u!
Seriously, my AMAZING PA is such a "Hero" in my life☆~She listens SO well, takes all my concerns & symptoms very seriously, while dealing with Lupus, Hashimotos, Heart/HBP, etc♡!!
I'd say it's a huge pro that they're both in health care. They both understand medicine and the stress that comes with it and the excitement that comes from seeing something new at work. My bf works in a factory so when I come home and tell him, omg! (I work in LTC) and we're so excited to be trying out a vac dressing for a resident with an ulcer that won't heal. He just stares at me and goes a what?! I have nursing friends just for nursing convos so I can def see why it'd be nice to have a health care pro in a relationship
I am in the medical profession and I for one cannot imagine marrying someone in medicine..I definitely wanted to find someone in a diff field one that I even thought would be not feasible for me such as engineering, architecture or even IT! My husband is a software engineer, and to hear his work stories is like a breath of fresh air! I have colleagues that are on the opposite side of the spectrum who definitely love the fact they are both in medicine and have a different understanding of each other. However I did find that when both spouses are Physicians life is definitely different and often I see fellow female physicians sacrificing their profession to stay at home for a while with the children and resentment starts to grow. Just an observation I made in the last 3 years during my residency and hearing all of the stories.
Can you do a video explaining how your time is spent during the work day? How much of your day is spent seeing patients, writing orders, charting, etc for both PA and MD?
Starting college, I thought I was going to do PT, but after shadowing in the hospital, I started to get more interested in nursing, PA, etc. I thought about going to med school, especially since my mother and sister pursued it, but I just know I don’t want to go through all of that. Problem is, having them pursuing medicine made pursuing nursing or PA school questionable (i.e. why don’t I just be a doctor at that point). I still go back and forth because the PT program I’m in is accelerated and secured into grad school, but if I want to switch to a PA track, I’m scared I’ll have to reapply. At this point, I’m just blabbering so I’ll stop before I get into another cycle of uncertainty and fear of the future lol.
from Joel: Isabella, when I became a PA in 1980, 15-20% of my PA classmates went on to med school. I'm not sure I'd recommend that path, and I doubt it's done much, if at all, nowadays.
I did meet a number of PA students who applied to both PA school and med school -- the med school option was Plan B in case they didn't get into PA school.
That’s sick how you guys are both have a solid career and it’s something you both are connected to.
Y'all are awesome! My husband and I have recently been at a crossroads for whether he should choose the pediatrician or PA route and this video was super helpful! Not only did I love the fact that y'all are married too but also that you both provided insight from both physician and PA perspectives. Good luck with your residency and I hope God blesses y'all with beautiful baby Cellinis! I look forward to watching more videos!
what did you guys decide?
JUST THOSE FIRST 40 SECS ALREADY GOT ME SMILING LIKE AN IDIOT. JUST KEEP DOING YOU, GUYS ❤
Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦!
Your channel is the first realistic and down to earth medical channel I have encountered so far. No exaggerating and fake talks here! I love it!
I'm a premed student right now and I was wondering if you can make a video about your premed journey!!!
Thanks a lot! 😊
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Adriana is so intelligent & we love hearing from her ❤️ it’s so nice to see further into your life!!! 🙂
Really enjoyed this. I'm in my mid 20's and strongly leaning towards PA school. I absolutely love the idea of doing what physicians do. I really hate being in school though. It took me awhile to settle on the medical field, and even longer on the PA path. Unfortunately I'm trying to play catch up with my undergrads. Honestly I'm really jealous of the people my age in PA school or even graduating right now. I kick myself every day knowing that could have been me if I had played my cards differently. Sometimes I feel like I'm too far behind to start this path. After all, my 20's will be long gone before I can even think about working as a PA...
I generally see consistent job satisfaction with PAs though, and that's really motivating to me. I know they make WAY less than MD's, but if it means I can get to work quicker as a professional, I'm all for it. I can see myself as a great psychiatric PA. But I've still got a long road ahead and that brings me down sometimes. I really appreciate videos like this though. Please keep it up. Its just the sort of thing people like me need to hear once in awhile.
don't feel down about ur wrong choice ur young age u can do what u want pursue don't give up
This hits home. Although I'm still young (18) and still experiencing things. I wish I had more guidance before I entered my university. There were factors that made me choose my university, but those decisions were solely based on other people and not myself. I'm stuck on the 4 years undergrad and ~2 years PA school. However, I was lucky that my school has a major with an option in pre-PA. I wish you luck on your journey and keep your head up!
Very helpful video as someone who is choosing between different fields (pharmacy school and PA school) thank you guys for explaining in depth and with such fun attitudes!
For some PA programs they require you to take the PCAT. Which of course is the pharmacy entrance exam. Thought I'd like to share that. But nonetheless do you want more patient care or are you more fascinated with the pharmaceutical aspect of things?
The most difficult thing in marrying a medecine is the difference in work time you don't get that much time to actually live outside work but it's a lifestyle on it's own and it's good to see you accepting it posetivly and not considering it as a problem
Here in New Zealand we don’t have PAs , Practicing medicine is exclusively done by a medical doctor , now NP too (with some restrictions )
It’s unusual for the Medical Council to register a degree with the name of “assistant “ and also without 6 year medical school and at least two years of postgraduate internship before going to a residency program. I ve heard in the UK there as some PAs. I hope one day we get PAs here in New Zealand.You guys are pretty much needed.You do a great job!!!
Seeing this now, being in my late 20s Im in the same about having the desire and uncertainty about getting into PA school. I myself just started working as a PCA now studying to get my certification and in school for PCT cert. I’m just now discovering this after my younger self wanting to be a doctor and finding the flexibility in practicing sooner as a PA C, I’ve been there wanting to kick myself about it but I think as long as its happening now it might’ve been your time. And just get into it. Seeing this informative video helps encourage that. I’m debating whether to leave my Pct program and research a pa school. And just work as a cna. They say the best nurses/medical professionals start as a cna lol
Wow you guys are goals 😍. I’ve been considering getting into either PA or going to med school for radiology after my bachelors in radiation therapy and this video really helped! You should make a part 2!
Your wife should do a video on how she became a practicing PA at age 21! It would be super helpful!
She said she did a four year program.
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from Joel: Excellent discussion!
After a career as an Army officer (Signal Corps), I became a PA at age 42 in 1980. I started at $15K/year (!) and retired after 30 years, all of it in an inpatient psychiatric hospital. Back then a PA was a bachelor's-level degree; now it's a master's.
I particularly liked your touching on the fact that a PA is trained as a generalist and can seamlessly transition from one specialty to another, whereas an MD cannot do so without going back through a second (3+ year) residency.
Over time, I've had a number of older docs tell me that if PA had been an option when they finished college, they'd have gone the PA route rather than going to med school. (The first PA's graduated from Duke in 1967.) And, in the same vein, I've met a number of PA's whose parent(s) were docs; those parents urged their offspring to become a PA, and none of those involved regretted that choice.😀
You retired from being a PA at 72 years old?
Thanks for this video. I didn't know there was so much flexibility for PAs. I've never really wanted to be a doctor, but the PA route sounds interesting.
Such a cute couple!! Thanks for the info! Thinking about going into PA school after 10 years of being an RT. I am married and we have 2 beautiful boys (4&8). What are you guys’ advice on dealing with family/kids and going through PA school?? How/is it possible??
How did your wife become PA in surgery? I am thinking about getting my PA after nursing school, and I would love to be as involved in surgery as possible. (particularly in orthopedics or cardio surgery) I guess my real question is; Do you just have to look for a job in surgery and get lucky, or do you have to work your way up and specialize in surgery?
Soooo very helpful. I have to nail the many variables in professional health services, as in my job we tailor specific courses for students/MD's/Specialists who are interested in experiencing full immersion in the Spanish Language or a great On-line solution... from the very Heart of Mexico: San Miguel de Allende!!! Good job you guys!
more about physician assistants please! thats what I want to go into, and Id love as much information as i can get about the profession. Im currently an undergrad health sciences: pre-clinical major, and I graduate in the summer of 2020. ill be applying for PA schools starting in 2020, and I am going to look into scribe jobs soon for experience and DPC hours. if Adriana could also go into what to expect when applying for programs, as well as how to make yourself more competitive, etc, that would be amazing! cant wait to see more of your videos! i just subscribed :) thanks guys!!
I would love to know how her experience as a dermatology PA. I’m a freshmen in college and really want to go into that path. Thank you so much for the video, it was very helpful!
What school did your wife go to? Its amazing she was able to complete her career so quickly. I also want to be a PA I’m really interested in seeing more videos with her :)
I am interested in both surgery PA and dermatology PA! Can you please talk about your experiences in both?
This was so helpful! I am going to school right now to be a PA. I get my AA in June and then I will continue my education towards PA. This just helped push me even more to be a PA and I know I am making the right decision. Plus she is so pretty! thanks guys (:
I love how you both respect each other’s career and roles in medicine. I am in PA school right now and I have a fear that some doctors will not respect me as a provider.
But they do. PAs now do what doctors used to do.
Yes, of course, you can definitely expect that. Just look at a physician forums online. It’s unfortunate but it’s reality.
Woah. I didn’t know PA’s existed. I thought the only way to get a job where your medically helping people was to go to med school and become a doctor. It’s actually really cool to know there is a financial option I can afford to do instead. Coool.
@Lisa you are a legit queen for replying to people months later. Your replies are so detailed, these were the kind of responses I wanted when I was picking careers. Thank you for helping so much people out!
@Lisa good to know! i guess i'll steer clear of applying to schools in FL then hahah..my GPA is a 3.3 :/ im planning to take a few more classes to bring it up
wishfuldreamer2396 don’t know what my SGA was. Back when I applied I didn’t know there was a way to see how they broke it down and what they gave you. I had As and Bs in my sciences with one C. Was never asked about the C. I had a total of 6 interviews over 5 years, one waitlist I didn’t get in and 2 acceptances. I applied to basically all Florida schools. 4-7 schools each year. Some years I applied to less because it’s expensive. It was about 1k to apply to 7 schools in 2012.
was your sGPA on the lower end or something?
This is my first time on your channel and I loved the info I got here! I can't believe you were a practicing PA at 21! I'd love to hear more about PA schooling
Y'all are so cute!! I love how you guys finish each other sentences omg. This video is so helpful! I'm still deciding with path I want to take, so this is great information to know about both PA and MD! :)
Hello! I am a mid-career person and have an undergraduate degree & MBA in Finance; however, I am now considering PA school, so I have two questions for you guys:
1) How do you think an older individual would be perceived in the applications process for PA school, in the PA program and then ultimately when searching for a job? Do you think experience in another profession would be valued (to a small degree) in the interviewing process?
2) On another video they said that you would want a GRE score in the 40th or 50th percentile. Do you agree with this or have any additional thoughts on what a competitive GRE test score would be?
Thank you!
Evon
Thank you for the video on the differences between Doctor vs. PA. Your information is truly helpful!
Keep up the PA input.
Yeah I agree it’s nice to have someone who understands health care because it’s such a different field than others experience
Excellent video ! I am a physician and work with Excellent PA's and NP's, These 2 groups are physician extenders: meaning they are supervised by physicians and SIGNIFICANTLY increase a physician's ability to provide quality care for more patients at the same time. Physicians do have more training. Generally PA's and NP's make very good money and have better hours
I am a retired PA, but I get an occasional look at a radiograph on Facebook or something and it is surprising (to me) that I can read them better than I could when practicing. Throughout my entire career I did not do a good job of getting "the big picture" before I read the film. I once missed multiple rib fractures. The radiologist had read the film as negative, my supervisor had read the film as negative, I didn't see anything wrong with the lungs and I showed it to the patient. In less than five seconds he'd found 5 non-displaced fractures. ¶ Another patient, a three-year-old, fell out of bed and "hurt her shoulder." I ordered a shoulder film. Perfectly good glenohumeral joint. I reassured Mom and sent her home. Well, she had a manubrio-clavicular dislocation. I saw it (after mother and child had gone home) when I glanced at the film from across the room. There is a term in French, idee fixe, the fixed idea. It will catch you every time.
Very cool - thank you! I wish we had the PA scheme in more medical systems - PAs play such a vital role in healthcare. Great to see how well the two of you interact in your work and life relationships! More power to you - and stay safe in these challenging times.
Very nice collaboration! PAs are almost non-existent here in Nigeria. It was great getting to learn more about you guys (PAs).
I've been a PA for 26 years in Emergency Medicine. Good points for future MD's / PA's and great video you 2!!
What’s the usual pay like?
Hey Dr. C,
I have a question for your wife. Can you ask her what would be the entry-level salary for a PA straight out of school after passing the PANCE? This is assuming you’re in Southern California and you want to go into fields such as internal medicine, neurology, diagnostic radiology, endocrinology, or ophthalmology? I wouldn’t accept anything below 100 K right out of school. Is that doable?
I watched while doing my chem hw ! now I want this degree more than ever thank you guysssssss 💛
You guys are adorable. Hope you're doing well as you get closer to making baby Cellini's (unless you already have)! As a new RN I'm never sure what to call our PA's... doctor, PA so-in-so or what...
Undergrad and PA in four years?! Wow, that’s incredible. A practicing PA at 21 👏🏼 what school did you go to? Haven’t seen any combined programs like that. Sometimes at shortest it would be 5 years
I’m Really happy I found your channel, you kind of ignited something in me, a love for medicine I've always had but just recently came alive! ☺️
Love this!!! Absolute couple goals ☺️ I’m going to be a PA in a few years so now I’ll have to find my doctor 👀 haha
Ok you two rockstars... advice for a mid-life career pivot from a high school science teacher for the past decade?? Definitely into the flexibility of PA, but like the deeper dive of MD training. Love neuro, but could also see myself in primary care/peds and educating parents, families. Where I live PA is 3 yrs. Currently 37, applying this cycle and need to make a decision ASAP. Choice 3: genetic counselor. Choice 4: stay in education bc it is still fun/enjoyable, do health coaching and teach yoga on the side. If you know any career switchers let me know!
Loved it! My career goal plan is to become a PA so found this beyond useful. Can a PA do something like Drs without boarders? Or anything like travel nurses?
Yes, my sister goes every few years.
Thank you guys. I have one year left on my bachelors, so I’m still deciding which route. Great video!
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Trying to decide between pursuing PA or MD. What is the difference in depth of education between the two professions? For example, if both a med student and a PA student were studying hypothyroidism, to what extent would the PA and MD education be the same? In what ways would the education differ?
I would love your advice on what it would take for me to become a P.A.! I am a certified medical assistant so that I could start working while also going to school to get a bachelors to get into P.A. school. I ended up having my first baby who is now 2, and as of now another on the way! I wanted to have my career and since kids I had to put it all on hold. 😭
What would be your advice to become a P.A. NOW!
You two are super cute! Just found your channel and my daughter has been trying to decide which route to take. Sharing your video with her now. Best of luck to you both! God bless. 💕
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Thank y’all for sharing your jobs and explaining them. It’s very interesting to hear what you do. Good luck on your new jobs.
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1) You’re a physician
2) Your wife is stunning
3) Shoutout to a fellow southerner
4) I’m jealous😂
@Dr. CelliniOTP baby
lol
haha thanks man! ATL born and raised!
Can you do a video comparison for being a PA vs a MD? I am currently in school and am back and forth on what route I should do. I am deciding either PA neurosurgery or Neurologist with a MD. Like I want to know what a PA does in neurosurgery, what can they do in the OR? Do they do more post op care?
With someone who has a Bachelors degree (business technology), how many classes or yrs would it take to go back to school and get certified as a PA? Would online classes work to get this type of degree?
Cute! Loved it! Thank you for your care and dedication. Best of luck to you!
What I like about P.A.s and often prefer them to doctors, is because they're not as desperately cranking the money wheel to pay off their student debts. So they spend more time listening and paying attention to your problem than doctors do. And are usually much more easily accessible than doctors. I use my judgement and sometimes will see both a doctor and a PA for the same problem to get 2 different approaches to it.
The only problem I have with PA’s is the name. In no way is he/she any kind of “assistant.” Must have been thought up by a doctor. My wife and I see a PA in a family practice office (with a good doctor too), and we love her. She’s very smart, empathetic and accessible. Could not be happier.
On my rehab unit the PA corrects all the mistakes the MD makes and also corrects all the “mental” harm he does to his patients. Thank god for PA’s.
So you were talking about the hell that is residency. Does it get better when you're through with residency? Like do you work fewer hours/have a less stressful schedule once you're done with residency? Would love to know what to expect during residency and how it compares to work life!
That's awesome you are patient with your family with medical needs.
I love her! She seems like a outgoing fun person. You too are so great for each other
Awesome and cute couple! Very happy for you guys. It’s great to see successful couples. Do more videos together for sure.
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Great video...you have a nice perspective on it since you get to “see” what PA’s do firsthand👍🏻 This would be like a dentist and advanced dental hygiene practitioner....many similarities!
I'm a Pharmacy Technician currently, but hope to go to PA school to be a PA. I don't think people understand how rigorous it is, and also how hard it is to get in. But according to a lot of people's comments I've seen on here, I guess Pharmacy Technicians shouldn't exist, either. Only Pharmacists. People don't understand that there is a varying degree of skill and knowledge that's appropriate for what they do.
Hey everyone, I am currently trying to find out how one could improve the productivity of a health professional busy like you ;)
Which is why I have two quite simple questions:
1. As a health professional, what are the 2 biggest issues you are dealing with regarding your productivity?
2. Regarding your productivity, what would you wish for more than anything else?
Thanks so much in advance - looking forward to reading your answers!
Extremely helpful video. Thanks so much! Now I know which route to take as a male student ---> DR (MD/DO). =)
I enjoyed your video and welcome as much info as possible to explain the PA profession to the public. Very helpful! Even now they are jimmying around with our name! I hope it starts with "His Veritable Eminence, but it probably won't. Still, I wish I had a dime for every time a patient asked me
"Why didn't you just become a doctor?!"
I met Dr. Stead personally and worked with a psychiatrist colleague of his for years. So, as an experienced PA for several decades, I would like to add this comment:
Each and every PA is governed by the medical laws of the state they are licensed and work in. It varies from state to state. I say "work in" because in my state (NC) a PA does not technically "practice" medicine. The NC Medical Act defines a PA as "performing medical acts, tasks, and functions." Nurse practitioners, on the other hand, are listed as being able to "practice" medicine. This is huge oversight, but makes a crucial difference. Why? For a number of reasons, but mostly reimbursement and autonomy. By not being able to "practice medicine," PAs are not allowed to be individually credentialed with Medicare, Medicaid, and some other insurance companies for reimbursement. Therefore, they must bill those services under their supervising physician's NPI, and he/she must be physically present at the practice. So if a PA happens to own and operate her own clinic (a medical practice?) she still cannot legally bill under her group or individual NPI, if her supervising physician isn't inda house. A Nurse Practitioner, on the other hand, may practice independently. Not fair? Well, it has to do with the semantics in the various Medical Acts - usually enacted by non-medical wise guys, and the folks who take them out to dinner.
There are many other State differences too, that was just an example. Some states still don't allow PAs to prescribe controlled substances. My state will not allow me to prescribe a controlled substance (or change a prescription for one) after three months without consulting my supervising MD and gaining his approval. So if I work in psychiatry, I can't refill your Adderall on month four, regardless of whether you have been stable on it for years, unless I consult my MD. Very dumb. If I want to decrease your pain medication, gotta ask the doc! I will say that most supervisors are awesome, but even a detailed, generous collaborative practice agreement cannot undermine the applicable medical statute. I could go on but you get the point.
Years ago, I worked a locum tenens job in the Aleutian Islands of Alaska (Yes, it was a blast BTW!) but I was unable to suture fishermans' laceration (90 percent of the job) until I obtained permission from an MD who also was required to sign the note. I hope it's not like that anymore... ...but it depends on the state! On the other hand, I was trained in the Air Force, and because you can't sue Uncle Sam, I was doing vasectomies on day two (an exaggeration, sort of) and zapping vocal cord nodules on day three. On the outside, it's up to the fat cats at the state capitol. In Mississippi, not long ago, a monkey on an organ grinder could practice more medicine than a PA.
In conclusion, if you want to know what the limitations are on a PA versus an MD, please consult your state's medical statute. The best docs and PAs practice medicine in community with each other, and other providers, because they love people, and love to help them feel better. And then there are others... ; )
Thank you for what you do!
Amen.
JD.
You guys are so enjoyable to watch!!! Great video!🙌🙌🙌❤️❤️❤️
Great video!!! Thanks for sharing your experiences!💚
Q for your wife: Do you think you could manage being a mom if you were a Doctor instead of a a PA? Q for you both: If you don’t mind, what is the difference in your pay?
(Sorry if invasive, trying to decide between)
marigold moon no problem!
Thank you, Lisa.
marigold moon the average PA is paid 108k according to occupational outlook handbook. Depending on where I work upon graduation I’m aiming for 90-100k as a new grad. I do not know the numbers on MDs but it’s definitely higher.
Great video! My fiance and I really enjoyed this. I am currently a nursing student and just found out about PA's not too long ago. I am interested in the PA program. Do you think nursing school and nursing experience would be helpful for the PA program?
ABSOLUTELY
Probably
I graduated 2017 DPT, I'm 28 y/o. I've been practicing for 2 years and I'm thinking of maybe going back to school to be a PA. I just find PT to be underpaid and overworked. We have a doctorate but I feel we're not respected or treated like we have one. And for the better paying jobs (SNFS) the productivity is so high we can't really treat as well as we'd while being over PTAs, collaborate with OTs/RNs and perform all the additional paper work etc. I'm really nervous about thinking of going back to school but I just see myself getting so burnt out and overworked as a PT.
Did you do it?
I’m currently studying as a pa at 20 in the UK and I’m loving it, I can’t wait to Graduate next year and start working!
How is it now? I’m in high school and I’m thinking about this for a career option
I'd like to see a video of Radiologist Assistant versus Physician Assistant, especially after you mentioned PA's in IR. Did you mean RA? I know that Obamacare affected the autonomy of RA's, so it would be interesting to hear your take on that.
Hello Dr. Cellini. Thank you for making this video. I’m in the middle of choosing if I should do med school or PA. Watching this video helps me clear a lot of things!
I do have questions hoping that you could answer. What does a full-time surgery PA does? What is the difference between surgery PA and a trama PA?
couple goals :)
Awesome video guys, giving some recognition to PA-Cs!
Indeed, it was a great video!
Thanks a lot!
You guy are so cute!!!! PA was my major I left school to have my daughter. I also have a back ground in medicine. I wouldn’t totally love to find a husband in the medical field. You guys get each other’s passions. I’m so going back💕
I'm still considering going back to school to become a PA
I was a CNA for 8 years, a RN for 6 and got burnt out and went into construction where I'm at now. My biggest hesitation is cost of school with massive debt