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  • Psilopsyche
    Psilopsyche Ай бұрын +5540

    My favorite case of classified info being shared, is when a soldier with access to classified information gets into an argument on a video games forums, because the game developers got details wrong on a tank.

    • JD Lowen
      JD Lowen 2 күн бұрын

      You mean China....hahah, yes!!

    • Darth Kittyous The Unwise
      Darth Kittyous The Unwise 3 күн бұрын

      That was UK challenger 2 documents

    • Chillypuwn
      Chillypuwn 5 күн бұрын

      can you link to that specific case?

    • Styx Rakash
      Styx Rakash 6 күн бұрын

      warthunder challenger 2 commander

  • Tucker Toenjes
    Tucker Toenjes Ай бұрын +1251

    The fact that they used the same tools I use to pass my college exams to discover classified information is absolutely wild

    • SwaggyD
      SwaggyD 2 күн бұрын

      Chegg is the best 😅

    • O-DeLosAltos-Chih.
      O-DeLosAltos-Chih. 5 күн бұрын

      @Raymond Htut who ever made Quizlet was our last group of geniuses 😂

    • Dylan Kelly
      Dylan Kelly 7 күн бұрын +2

      @H J you should learn to recognize a joke

  • Mason Fiedler
    Mason Fiedler Ай бұрын +1264

    I saw a video on War Thunder that there were players having arguments over where certain weak spots on tanks were, how thick armor plating was, what type of shells used etc and people to win the argument would actually reveal classified information about tanks in modern day use. It's actually happened on more than one case, kinda insane to think about how them winning an argument could jeopardize national security.

    • Alfredo Diaz Ramirez
      Alfredo Diaz Ramirez 7 күн бұрын +1

      Reading this thread is scary

    • Mr Rod
      Mr Rod 8 күн бұрын +1

      @Mason Fiedler there refueled and re supplied while moving, they usually never stop.

    • LORNLH6
      LORNLH6 16 күн бұрын

      Little ego divas tbh and that’s a soldiers smh 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • Roberts Sanders
    Roberts Sanders Ай бұрын +713

    I like how they say “Nobody has to know that, its top secret”.
    And then Vice just show it to us

    • Iggy Cooley
      Iggy Cooley 4 күн бұрын

      Yea I thought the same “so go make a viral video about it! “

    • Nino Zárate
      Nino Zárate 7 күн бұрын

      This information is most likely to have been false and intentionally planted in the first place.

    • HunAn ChiKin
      HunAn ChiKin 8 күн бұрын

      @Canuck outdoors just laugh bro it’s a joke!!!

    • INDIA SUPER CLEAN 🇮🇳
      INDIA SUPER CLEAN 🇮🇳 27 күн бұрын +1

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  • woopimagpie
    woopimagpie Ай бұрын +170

    As an ex network security tech, ninety-nine times out of a hundred a security breach is not because someone was clever at breaking in, but because those who were broken in to were incredibly lax, negligent even, in maintaining even a simple level of security. Incompetence, ambivalence, apathy, financial prioritization, and good old fashioned laziness are almost always the real culprits in a security breach. Some of the worst ones I saw were because an alarmingly simple opening was found by accident. In one case the company IT security guy was let go because "he was costing too much", when no one in the company actually had any idea just how much he did to keep their network secure, and in my estimation he was cheap - they were getting a very good deal and they didn't even realise it. Boy did they come to rue that decision.
    That something as sensitive and secretive as nuclear weapons has its security undone by a couple of incompetent grunts would seem to be incredibly scandalous, but in security breach situations it's really just the norm, and is nothing new to those who work in that field.

    • Nervegas
      Nervegas 8 күн бұрын +1

      @Udita Bhattacharya I work in the same industry, a company hired me and mine to come clean up a data breach involving HIPAA sensitive info, I charged just north of 1.5mil. So unless they were paying their previous IT security folks in golden toilets, it definitely ended up costing them significantly more to clean up the mess.

    • Yyy Hj
      Yyy Hj 8 күн бұрын

      All this coming from an ex security tech. Lol. I just had to say it.

    • F. D.
      F. D. 13 күн бұрын +5

      Totally agree. I keep telling my students - before you try to be smarter than others before you, first try to be LESS DUMB ... this is less risky and usually gets you better results, quicker.

    • LORNLH6
      LORNLH6 16 күн бұрын

      Wow thanks for proving my exact idea 💡 as to why documents or events leak out cuz people are so careless 😂

    • Udita Bhattacharya
      Udita Bhattacharya 26 күн бұрын +2

      you won't be able to say the name of the company anyway so I won't ask but what work was this company involved in and ho wmuch did it end up costing them to repair the breach

  • William Bonilla
    William Bonilla Ай бұрын +41

    Not the 1st time this has happened. During my research for a class in my pre med school I found sensitive material that belong to the GOV but was exposed online to the public. Sometimes people don’t realized what they upload that can be high classified material, Sometimes you don’t need Edward to find some of this stuff.

    • Skully
      Skully 2 күн бұрын

      Edward is a fool for many reasons.

    • Reapiu
      Reapiu 6 күн бұрын

      pls dont scam me

    • INDIA SUPER CLEAN 🇮🇳
      INDIA SUPER CLEAN 🇮🇳 27 күн бұрын +2

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  • Nichrysalis
    Nichrysalis Ай бұрын +4193

    This is why people in cybersecurity are always grumpy.

    • nagger who defiles ™️
      nagger who defiles ™️ 5 сағат бұрын

      @Nobody ♡ it's the id10t form. Go get one from admin to get an email account. While u there grab the humvee keys so we can drive to g-6 to get ur account instead of walking.

    • nagger who defiles ™️
      nagger who defiles ™️ 5 сағат бұрын

      Ppl cant even follow basic password rules or not to use their govt issued equipment to surf pron etc.
      Js

    • INDIA SUPER CLEAN 🇮🇳
      INDIA SUPER CLEAN 🇮🇳 27 күн бұрын

      WOW SIR VERY DANGEROUS 😠😠I WILL NEVER GO TO USA!! 😠BUT THIS IS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA 🤗🇮🇳 THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD , WE NEVER DO SCAM AND WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗

  • Turtle
    Turtle Ай бұрын +121

    One thing most civilians don’t know is that leaked information is sometimes intentional as a method of electronic warfare counter intelligence. Also the information is most likely out of date. If this is in fact a security breach they need to change then SOPs for these facilities. I have no experience with Nuclear facilities but have experience in serving.

    • Abe Naz
      Abe Naz 2 сағат бұрын

      Diversionary tactics, the promulgation and dissemination of misinformation or/and disinformation to protect strategic assets and interests.
      It’s a good excuse to use, especially after there has been a breach of information.

    • KC Smooth
      KC Smooth 7 күн бұрын +2

      You bring up an excellent point. There’s no way to know for sure if this was leaked by design, but it’s good to keep an open mind about it.

    • Jahlea Jahlou
      Jahlea Jahlou Ай бұрын

      The simplest answer is usually the right answer. They are all BALLERS !

    • MKUltra
      MKUltra Ай бұрын +1

      This smells like psyops

    • Dan Field
      Dan Field Ай бұрын

      I think this was leaked on purpose

  • sundhaug92
    sundhaug92 Ай бұрын +289

    Fun fact: the scientists at Los Alamos during WW2 would sometimes borrow library-stuff in their real name... despite them being there being classified

    • INDIA SUPER CLEAN 🇮🇳
      INDIA SUPER CLEAN 🇮🇳 27 күн бұрын +3

      WOW SIR VERY DANGEROUS 😠😠I WILL NEVER GO TO USA!! 😠BUT THIS IS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA 🤗🇮🇳 THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD , WE NEVER DO SCAM AND WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗

    • Kekistani Mememan
      Kekistani Mememan Ай бұрын

      @Dan CI

    • Dan
      Dan Ай бұрын +5

      @oscar sierra One of the best security measures is to overwhelm the enemy with fake info. Good intel has to recognized for what it is before it can be useful.

  • Sandline Park
    Sandline Park Ай бұрын +19

    One of my favorite was when one of Australian parliament lady posted pictures inside some kind of special forces ops room office during a special visit and she posted multiple photo exposing lots of docs and ACTIVE FORCES in multiple region across the globe, one of the interesting photo was the amount of British SAS active operation being scattered all over Africa.
    Second was when Australian Defense website leaked photos of their training with the Japan "Self" Defense Forces, that one sparked a small "dialogue" among the army otaku community, in some part due the unexpected "Gucci" gear they were using that could easily buy a small house per special force operator.

  • The One
    The One Ай бұрын +54

    The connectivity and technology that existed today such as these smartphones, has always put me on edge when it comes to military secrets and what appears to be the ease in which information can accidentally become exposed and also “accidentally” exposed.

    • Ethnos Unlimited
      Ethnos Unlimited Ай бұрын

      Hacking is 10 times easier then it ever has been

    • C. L.
      C. L. Ай бұрын +2

      Don't worry. Russia uses unencrypted walkie talkies.

    • Jarroz
      Jarroz Ай бұрын +9

      It's very concerning but there are very simple steps to mitigate those security compromises.
      This is a failure to even mention opsec when training these mugs. It doesn't take a cybersecurity expert to not post your squadron on facebook.

  • r000ty
    r000ty 27 күн бұрын +10

    In a video game forum i frequented back in the day there was a Ukrainian guy who after just 1 day had the whole story about flight MH17 together. From the seperatists celebrating when they got the S300, until they downed the plane, with a timeline, geo located pictures and the names of certain seperatists involved. They posted about their "success" all over social media then a couple of hours later everything was gone and no one believed him...

  • ijustwantedtocomment butnowIgottamakeachannel

    This reminds me of how years ago location's of secret bases in the Middle East were exposed because soldiers were using fit bit and other exercise apps when they ran. They didn't turn locations off and some even shared the maps

    • Thomas Massey Contrereras
      Thomas Massey Contrereras 29 күн бұрын

      @Ruben Tik Tok was proven recently to be tracking in real time your GPS position.

    • BarneyMiller
      BarneyMiller Ай бұрын

      That was the Strava heat map, and it wasn't just the Middle East, it was the whole planet. Showed everything from troop movements in Afghanistan to a still unclaimed outpost under the ice in Antartica.

  • Peyton Simpson
    Peyton Simpson Ай бұрын +92

    Amazing journalism, straight to the point. No bullshit.

    • Dad dicks galore
      Dad dicks galore 6 күн бұрын +2

      Except for this glaring issue. You could have gone to the B61 wikipedia and found a picture from 2008 of one of them. And that the B61s are part of the NATO weapons sharing program. The US isn't storing bombs in other countries, it maintains them because other countries can't. The US Military uses Minuteman (MIRV), Trident (MIRV), and bombs that don't fit in F22s or F35s, like B61s do.

  • S I O M A I
    S I O M A I Ай бұрын +91

    Even I ain't American, I am terrified with the implications of this gigantic security breach. It's really scary to think that sensitive information about the world's deadliest weapons are just... out there.

    • S I O M A I
      S I O M A I Ай бұрын +2

      @Pieter Veenders such information being publicly available on quizlet is entirely another thing though hahaha

    • Pieter Veenders
      Pieter Veenders Ай бұрын +2

      None of this is news, the secret agreement on NATO nuclear weapons sharing has been common knowledge for many years now, including several detailed reports on the locations, numbers and other info regarding US nuclear weapons in the Netherlands, Belgium, Italy, Turkey and Germany to be made available to the host countries in case of all out (nuclear) war.

    • Kira Renee
      Kira Renee Ай бұрын

      Right??

  • Jaime
    Jaime Ай бұрын +5

    Good stuff, Vice!! And hats off to those gentlemen for the work they're doing.

  • Nick Dobie
    Nick Dobie Ай бұрын +71

    In the military, we all used these websites for studying. I never thought about the more sensitive stuff that could be one there from other professions in the military. Insane for sure.

    • Jose Mexican Mexican
      Jose Mexican Mexican 2 күн бұрын

      @sdtok So you think students should use a government computer to study their material? That would work... I was in a long time ago, but we didn't have laptops with cac readers or anything. We didn't study during work time.

    • sdtok
      sdtok 4 күн бұрын

      @Jose Mexican Mexican Exactly because of their size it is quite affordable to create a simple flashcard site. The site maintainer does not provide the information, the students create their own flashcards just like the regular sites. Only thing is, you now know this information stays on US government servers and is properly encrypted.

    • Jose Mexican Mexican
      Jose Mexican Mexican 5 күн бұрын

      @sdtok Given the scope of the military and the sheer number of people who need to know sensitive information, this is not feasible. People complain about the security training, but it happens all the time and if people paid better attention, this wouldn't happen as often.

    • Blocka LaFlame
      Blocka LaFlame 7 күн бұрын

      ​​@sdtok schoolhouse curriculum is constantly changing and there is an an interest to have some people fail. Depending on someones MOS/AFSC/SFSC/Rate certain people are not allowed to have roommates so they can study

    • sdtok
      sdtok 9 күн бұрын

      They should develop an internal flashcard system. You should not be allowed to write that information down anywhere but in secure software/locations. Even if the cards were not public, what about a databreach at the flashcard site ...

  • Marko Grba
    Marko Grba 29 күн бұрын +2

    We are incredibly fortunate to have made it this far on this planet. Sadly, I have a bad feeling that our fortune is about to run out. I really hope that it doesn't and everything turns out well.

    • ALVIRMUSIC 23
      ALVIRMUSIC 23 17 күн бұрын

      I do to bro it’s a gut feeling like animals when they sense when something is going to go wrong soon.

  • Anno Neunzehn
    Anno Neunzehn Ай бұрын +3326

    Thanks VICE, for drawing attention to such massive problems!

    • 1newearth
      1newearth Ай бұрын

      Ho. Loves others as Jesus loves you. Repent of your deeds. Sundaykeeping is sorcery. If you love Jesus, keep his sabbaths, new moons, and holy days. Eating pork and abomination will cause you to be consumed. Have a good month. Christians will be here for the great tribulation, not in heaven. We shall dwell in the new earth for eternity.

    • bill akers
      bill akers Ай бұрын

      @Guy FawkesU possibly. I know from personal experience, let’s just say that much.

  • Muffin Man
    Muffin Man Ай бұрын +8

    this is what journalism should be meant for. to keep us aware of where our militaries are coming short.

  • DarkSagan
    DarkSagan Ай бұрын +170

    This is fucking insane. Major props out to both of these guys.

    • 1newearth
      1newearth Ай бұрын

      Ho. Loves others as Jesus loves you. Repent of your deeds. Sundaykeeping is sorcery. If you love Jesus, keep his sabbaths, new moons, and holy days. Eating pork and abomination will cause you to be consumed. Have a good month. Christians will be here for the great tribulation, not in heaven. We shall dwell in the new earth for eternity. This is not insane.

    • DarkSagan
      DarkSagan Ай бұрын

      @matthewheathcock I knew I recognized you.

    • matthewheathcock
      matthewheathcock Ай бұрын +1

      I’m the guy with the square black face

    • Samael Moneystein
      Samael Moneystein Ай бұрын +1

      @jo coleman this video proves that lol look at the comments of these people they all follow a specific algorithm they all refuse to bring topics such as this most of the time they will deflect with jokes.

    • jo coleman
      jo coleman Ай бұрын +1

      the real question should be is who is really lying about nuclear weapons, Russia or the United States aka nato

  • Michele Spier
    Michele Spier Ай бұрын +4

    As a veteran before cellphones, thank you for your service.

  • Low IQ Finance
    Low IQ Finance Ай бұрын +39

    I remember hearing this while stationed in Italy sometime in 2018 I believe. Not surprising, you can find almost any career fields CDCs on flashcard apps. Or at least you could, not sure how it is now a days after this story broke heavy in the military back then.

  • Chewy
    Chewy Ай бұрын +4

    I can’t imagine what we have given up as far as security goes. Items such as “Alexa”, “Ring” etc…all the Chinese crap we all use everyday in our homes, bases, and while exercising. This country thinks it’s so secure, but I bet the enemies know way more than we think they know!

  • Julius Brom
    Julius Brom Ай бұрын +864

    This story reminds me of US army personnel accidentally leaking the location of military bases when using work-out tracking apps. The US military should really start schooling their employees on mobile phone usage..

    • 0xDEED
      0xDEED 4 күн бұрын +1

      @Ford Huguley The US military is powerful because of the economy backing it, the soldiers themselves aren't particularly remarkable, and the boots are undeniably recruited from the bottom of the barrel in the modern day. For God's sake, they can barely get recruits that pass PT standards.

    • Logan Main
      Logan Main Ай бұрын

      @Lars vonrinpoche not true, all that info is feed into crawlers online. So it might be gated and semi deep in archives on websites but once its crawled by a few bots it ends up pasted onto wiki or other surface facing websites inevitably.

    • Lars vonrinpoche
      Lars vonrinpoche Ай бұрын

      @melelconquistador agreed. It was not obvious to anyone until someone looked at the data from a wide range of people in certain areas and noticed activity from many runners were all along the same path. Ended up the path was the border of the base.
      Unless Info unless you look at the complied images. Could happen at university's or other large areas where people may run the perimeter.

    • Logan Main
      Logan Main Ай бұрын

      Tiktok is banned for US military yet you still see personnel on tiktok lives

    • J G
      J G Ай бұрын

      That likely was Strava. Revealed many bases. Was in 2018.

  • Sirusdark
    Sirusdark Ай бұрын +3

    Thanks for the great report! It really drives the point clearly: your shouldn't upload/send data anywhere without doing due diligence on how the data is store, how long and how private it is.

  • badger jamees
    badger jamees Ай бұрын +3

    Unbelievable ! Well done vice for exposing these idiot military personnel that disclosed this incredibly sensitive information. I hope whoever is responsible for doing this is prosecuted and jailed.

  • Chris Brent
    Chris Brent Ай бұрын

    Kind of reminds me the the fitness apps that loads where using with no security. A ton of classified bases in places like Yemen were identified because there were people running in circles around the wire in places that were very odd. This is way scarier and you'd think that they'd have learnt from that as it was a couple of years before this was published. I Bellingcat found it then hostile state actors with vast intelligence services no doubt also found it.

  • Houbara Outdoors
    Houbara Outdoors Ай бұрын +51

    Thanks vice for sharing to the whole world 🙂

    • Svbreezy25
      Svbreezy25 Ай бұрын

      Those digital uniforms are so fucking old though. Makes me question the legitimacy

    • Jose Mexican Mexican
      Jose Mexican Mexican Ай бұрын +6

      The people who want this information are going to find it if it can be found. Hopefully the command adapts and effectively combats these massive leaks.

    • Honk Honk
      Honk Honk Ай бұрын +8

      This is the best way to litterally combat it though.
      If it wasnt shared t the whole world people wouldnt realize how much of an issue

  • paperonthewall
    paperonthewall Ай бұрын +1

    This certainly motivates me to work even harder to seek a more secure bunker in the event of a nuclear fallout. This is not a safe world anymore with soldiers getting reckless.

    • Ulysses Gomez
      Ulysses Gomez 14 күн бұрын

      already ahead of you, I started once Putin invaded

  • Cool Runnings Xoe
    Cool Runnings Xoe Ай бұрын +748

    I'm prior service, Army, and I can't understand how dumb and irresponsible these service members were. Their command is just as stupid and irresponsible to let this happen right under their noses.

    • Bernie Mills
      Bernie Mills Ай бұрын

      1 and done in the Navy for me. Too much service obviously kills brain cells. Amazing how far things have fallen..

    • 11B
      11B Ай бұрын

      Starts at the top.

    • Denise
      Denise Ай бұрын

      Remembering the Military is giving rank to 20 and 21 years old that irresponsible.

  • Binaya Vaidya
    Binaya Vaidya Ай бұрын +29

    Wow, these guys were able to pinpoint the exact location with pictures and google maps, and here I am always getting lost even with the Navigation On :'D. But Kudos to these guys for going through every minute detail and for finding out the loopholes in such a high-security matter.

    • Oscar
      Oscar Ай бұрын

      Geolocating is a fast growing hobby. I personally spend hours every week studying satellite images of Syria and western Iraq.

    • Willow Malone
      Willow Malone Ай бұрын

      @Hydroxside within the pixels of the photo? I didnt realize that was the way geo tagging worked, good to know. Why would this be made in such a way as to effectively render every picture anyone takes not secure? Seems unnecessarily dangerous for no reason

    • TheXshot
      TheXshot Ай бұрын +2

      To be fair, Netherlands is extremely small 😅

    • Hydroxside
      Hydroxside Ай бұрын +1

      Just a bit of info any picture taken with a cell phone is geo tagged within the pixels of the photo...... so...

  • Big Awdays
    Big Awdays Ай бұрын +17

    This man just made everything even more leaked.

    • voutolliC22
      voutolliC22 Ай бұрын +13

      they contacted the authorities first so i'm sure everything related has long since been taken down or amended

  • Imber Jabusch
    Imber Jabusch Ай бұрын +6

    This is nuts. I appreciate Bellingcat investigations and everything you guys have contributed to society.

  • dark ketchup
    dark ketchup Ай бұрын +20

    good job vice and bellingcat.. sensitive information should always be kept away from public and enemy

  • LHTSS
    LHTSS Ай бұрын +3

    This is a breach like no other. Breaking points needs to do a story on this.

  • BrainOwn
    BrainOwn Ай бұрын +1486

    As a previous US millitary member of (undisclosed) i can confirm to this. It's tests training sets ...ect and 9 times out of 10 it isn't secret the flashcards are public some people even create the cards for new members of the command to earn there warfare pins there training pins...ect sites such as quizlet...ect are very commonly used.
    The problem comes when most individuals aren't security minded. You can try to teach opsec all you want but unless you abc it 9 times out of 10 most US service members won't recognize the security issue.

    • Eric Battista
      Eric Battista Ай бұрын

      Lmao this dude straight up typed undisclosed 💀

    • v m
      v m Ай бұрын

      That's why cyber security works overtime.

    • 1newearth
      1newearth Ай бұрын

      Is that correct? Ho. Loves others as Jesus loves you. Repent of your deeds. Sundaykeeping is sorcery. If you love Jesus, keep his sabbaths, new moons, and holy days. Eating pork and abomination will cause you to be consumed. Have a good month. Christians will be here for the great tribulation, not in heaven. We shall dwell in the new earth for eternity.

    • Ricky
      Ricky Ай бұрын

      Former AFGSC troop here. This was our primary way of studying especially when DOE/ NSI inspections were around the corner. This info has been out there for years.

  • siren said
    siren said Ай бұрын +16

    This is the sort of reporting we need more of!

  • alinzelnan
    alinzelnan Ай бұрын +1

    And that's one of the reasons why teaching media literacy (combined with internet privacy) should be taught in EVERY school. Baffling to see that not even the military does a proper job of educating these specific people with highly sensitive jobs about these things.

  • Funk Machine909
    Funk Machine909 11 күн бұрын

    good vice on uploading this video so more people can learn about this and find this information. bravo

  • clumsiii
    clumsiii Ай бұрын +11

    Protect Bellingcat! I missed this investigation from 21 but good on Vice for sharing this. If Bellingcat is new to you: you gotta find the podcasts about their work. They have their own and there's many interviews, too.

    • clumsiii
      clumsiii Ай бұрын

      @Willow Malone investigative journalist group of international researchers that primarily use open source info. Fascinating to me - I learned about them from the podcast. I recommend that as a starting point if you're curious *their first major investigation resulted in finding out specific Russian officers involved with the Buka missile attack on a Singaporean civilian airliner that departed from Netherlands (? belgium? i forget now) . check it out, if you want :)

    • Willow Malone
      Willow Malone Ай бұрын

      What is Bellingcat in a nutshell?

  • Tomasz Kochanowski
    Tomasz Kochanowski 28 күн бұрын +1

    Reminded me of that incident when US soldiers leaked locations of secret bases in Iraq or afganistan by using strava app to save their activity around base and then outlines poped up as a heatmap

  • Miro Z
    Miro Z Ай бұрын +57

    Bellingcat is way too underrated! Also, it is kind of organization every country or a state should incorporate into its structures. 💯%

    • John Mackenzie
      John Mackenzie Күн бұрын +1

      They are state-funded by the US government, so not underrated.

    • Miro Z
      Miro Z Ай бұрын

      @moosesnWoop123 Yeah, my comment was related to the methodology more than actual names.

    • moosesnWoop123
      moosesnWoop123 Ай бұрын

      @Miro Z yes exactly, not disputing their work but taking it with caution. Some stuff they have suggested wasn't correct, but it happens

    • Miro Z
      Miro Z Ай бұрын

      @moosesnWoop123 you are awlays free to verify research etc :)

  • Sergio Dominguez
    Sergio Dominguez Ай бұрын +342

    I'm a active duty service member of the United States Army and I've been stationed in Poland since April of last year as part of the United States NATO bolstering force. I appreciate your video and I personally have taken it upon myself after watching your video to inform my superiors here and back state side. This is absolutely fucking ridiculous and makes me physically sick. Make no mistake there will be repercussions for those that are identified and proven to have allowed truly some of the most highly secret information to the general public.

    • Tell me more
      Tell me more 5 күн бұрын

      @Gabriel Petersen There is no need to mop rain. Don't act so heroic.

    • Gabriel Petersen
      Gabriel Petersen 7 күн бұрын

      @Tell me more the rain isn’t gonna mop it’s self ya know!

    • Joe W
      Joe W 9 күн бұрын

      ​@Guy Fieri(because he's lying)

    • Marco
      Marco 10 күн бұрын +1

      @Jason Lind what service? occupying sovereign countries?

    • Titan Warlord
      Titan Warlord 14 күн бұрын +2

      If you are so sick about this why are you leaking your current location and time, that is also a part of OPSEC....

  • John Luu
    John Luu Ай бұрын +1

    I served in the Air Force doing that same exact job and this case is really really really bad.

  • aronkvh
    aronkvh Ай бұрын +5

    it's shocking how seemingly soldiers don't get enough education about so basic things. like not using your real name, using the same username across sites, not using your Military emails and credentials anywhere else, not uploading photos and checking visibility settings etc. etc.

  • ADRIE
    ADRIE 2 күн бұрын

    I served in Aviano and every few months we would hear a mini bomb go off like a illegal firework... tells me the airmen were either juvenile dead or detonating something but the point is it was often and it was scary...

  • Raist474
    Raist474 Ай бұрын +295

    This was pretty much inevitable considering the US Military's over-reliance on Computer Based Training (CBT's) instead of proper hands-on training like it used to do. If people actually sat down and studied the course material in order to pass, barely any work would get accomplished. The entire culture around CBT's encourage users to mash buttons or use flashcards to get through the courses as fast as possible because while you are doing said training, your unit is down a person and the mission tempo doesn't slow down. It's easy for the DoD to invent a CBT course about a specific new problem, and just throw it to the masses and pretend that the problem was now solved. I would spend 20-30 hours a week mashing out CBT's in order to prepare for a deployment, and I wouldn't get any reprieve, breaks, help with work, and be constantly interrupted because my day job doesn't care that I'm in the middle of training.

    • Joshua Deione
      Joshua Deione 25 күн бұрын

      you're over thinking the use of quizlet my man

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    • Austin W.
      Austin W. Ай бұрын +3

      The Navy nuclear community does an excellent job of keeping all study material on paper or classified local networks, forcing people to study and display their knowledge, and being exceptionally productive.
      The other edge of that sword is working 100+ hours/week.

    • Kyle Roddy
      Kyle Roddy Ай бұрын +1

      All facts💯

    • admthrawnuru
      admthrawnuru Ай бұрын +6

      It's not merely that computer based training occurs, its that the format for such training is designed to be done non-seriously. Like you said, it's mostly just viewed as a nuisance to get done as quickly as possible, so no one bothers to actually learn or think about this stuff. You can do computer training well, but that looks more like an online course. CBTs are so impersonal and, in my experience, have far too low of passing thresholds and a reliance on questions which are verbatim from the training material rather than questions which make you think. To fix this, they really need to invest actual time and attention to the critical training areas.
      Honestly, though, I think it's more about higher-ups CYAing for when you screw up. They can then say, "oh that's in the training and he took it, so clearly I did my job"

  • benny andersson
    benny andersson Ай бұрын

    It truly baffels me how insanely irresponsible some people are with information that should be secure. This is not the first example.

  • Ki-Sean Excell
    Ki-Sean Excell Ай бұрын +1

    John Oliver did a piece on this and it’s honestly insane how careless so many of these facilities are run.
    You’d think being in charge and having responsibility over a weapon that can destroy the world as we know it would have a little more layers of protection and strict procedures. This is disturbing.

    • Jooby
      Jooby Ай бұрын

      You expect a bunch of 18-24 year olds to be responsible? There’s our first problem lol

  • Nicholas Ang
    Nicholas Ang Ай бұрын

    even the pentagon press secretary at 9:05 winked cause he knew it was the worlds worst kept secret

  • Ross Moniz
    Ross Moniz Ай бұрын +6

    A full scope story on this would be awesome

  • ELITE
    ELITE Ай бұрын

    THANKS FOR THE ENTERTAINMENT AND INFO! God bless you all!

  • EMS
    EMS Ай бұрын +449

    Unbelievable. How could anyone let this happen?
    There better be a big reaction to this within the military RIGHT AWAY

    • Retly
      Retly Ай бұрын

      it already has

    • Ras Kolnikov
      Ras Kolnikov Ай бұрын

      @小明 are you out of your mind

    • Ras Kolnikov
      Ras Kolnikov Ай бұрын +1

      @Lil Mick 🐊 Dundee It is top G only of the REAL world.

    • Lil Mick 🐊 Dundee
      Lil Mick 🐊 Dundee Ай бұрын

      @Ras Kolnikov Who is that? Sounds familiar

  • Evercreeper
    Evercreeper Ай бұрын +3

    I have seen those flash cards come up in searches before. Not nuclear weapons, but still random stuff the creators probably thought were private.

  • Hontas Farmer
    Hontas Farmer Ай бұрын +7

    This does not surprise me one little bit. In fact as a college professor it makes me feel a little better to know that when told to not do something clearly bad people the age I am teaching will still do it. I'd bet a million dollars that they were taught how to secure this information, taught not to put it on non government systems, and did it anyway. They did it thinking that there can't be a problem and uncool old people are "scaremongering". Some people just need to get burned before they learn.

    • Public User
      Public User Ай бұрын

      @Fred Carr You need to reread my comment. Also, you need to work on your vocabulary

    • Public User
      Public User Ай бұрын

      We don’t really bring in the most intelligent people in this country.

  • Brett Middleton
    Brett Middleton 7 күн бұрын

    This is actually a severe security risk

  • Hello my friends
    Hello my friends Ай бұрын +2

    Hats off to these journalists ! 💐❤️

  • Jimblue
    Jimblue 6 күн бұрын

    Was it a secret to begin with? Service members upload pictures all the time like that… some, like this one, are not allowed too. But im failing to see how crazy this is lmao

  • Rob
    Rob Ай бұрын +509

    As an airman I'm not at all surprised lol

    • admthrawnuru
      admthrawnuru Ай бұрын +1

      @Hassane Bowen Because this covers your commander's ass if you screw up. He can say you were "trained" even though we all know those things are a lousy way to teach anything important.

    • Huggy Bear
      Huggy Bear Ай бұрын +1

      @Rocky No lie! I was in basic in 2004, back when little details really mattered.

    • Hassane Bowen
      Hassane Bowen Ай бұрын

      @Michael Pratt lmao tell me why I gotta do so many CBTs

  • April Kearns
    April Kearns Ай бұрын +5

    Thank you for sharing with the public!

  • Jay S.
    Jay S. Ай бұрын +11

    Bellingcat is just top notch, their investigations are always a very interesting read!

  • (╥_╥)no
    (╥_╥)no Ай бұрын

    This level of intensity rivals that of the group chat being leaked

  • Chanse Syres
    Chanse Syres Ай бұрын +1

    LOL good one, recruiters. You really found some real diamonds!! Whoever found these recruits deserve a raise. You really know how to pick them. And now you have the identity and location of the whole squad.

  • Zach Fiedler
    Zach Fiedler Ай бұрын +1

    I tried to join the coast guard, they sent me someone else’s application and then tried to tell me they didn’t when questioned.

  • EvielKnievel
    EvielKnievel Ай бұрын +270

    If a soldier has Instagram, FaceBook, Twitter or any social media ....they already shared their location.

    • Adi
      Adi Ай бұрын +1

      @GAM WORLD WORLDWIDE why?

    • GAM WORLD WORLDWIDE
      GAM WORLD WORLDWIDE Ай бұрын

      @Adi bruh they aint switching their VPN at all 😂😂😂

    • ourobro
      ourobro Ай бұрын

      @C It’s better than using all of em

    • Klop CodeZ
      Klop CodeZ Ай бұрын +3

      Everyone who has a phone have shared there location

  • Josue Ramirez
    Josue Ramirez Ай бұрын

    Ouch, you would think people working with this would be more privacy minded. Also reminds me of a story of drug enforcement agents getting captured by attackers because their armored SUV had a civilian feature where if shifted into Park, that caused all the doors to unlock.

  • J M
    J M Ай бұрын +1

    Wow. Looks like an old school B61 dial-a-nuke. It is no secret that these things have been in NATO hands for many decades but that was scary that one location could be so readily exposed through good journalism. Let's just assume that every NATO adversary knows where every single one of these devices actually is.

  • Ryan Munson
    Ryan Munson 2 күн бұрын

    One of the hardest things is to find whether the information is credible. Very interesting investigative journalism here.

  • Piff HamperTV LLC
    Piff HamperTV LLC Ай бұрын

    These are real journalists they really invest time to get on the case

  • Ian Mello
    Ian Mello Ай бұрын

    Thankful that there are good journalist Willing to put in the work. 👏🏼

  • i am the news
    i am the news Ай бұрын +172

    I would imagine these type of internet/app security breaches happen all the time. 🤦‍♀️

    • Random Guy
      Random Guy Ай бұрын

      Yea I’m pretty sure an NBA coach revealed his strategy or something in these flashcards

    • RDSC.
      RDSC. Ай бұрын

      @A 😃😃😃 SECRET !!what a way to publicise !!

    • LA Summer
      LA Summer Ай бұрын

      It's becoming obvious that it's no accident.

    • A
      A Ай бұрын

      Ask mark ;)

    • tahj
      tahj Ай бұрын +4

      you’re correct

  • S9 Plus
    S9 Plus Ай бұрын

    Great investigative journalism

  • Yazan Rajei
    Yazan Rajei Ай бұрын +9

    Imagine being called into your CO’s office because you put nuclear security secrets on Chegg

  • Gláuber Ferreira
    Gláuber Ferreira Ай бұрын

    What an amazing report!

  • Nuclear Future
    Nuclear Future  Ай бұрын +8

    "OMG they are standing next to a bomb!" You know if your job is to load bombs onto a plane, you stand next to them, like all day, every day.

  • Jerrymc1975
    Jerrymc1975 Ай бұрын

    Well thanks for sharing this secretive info with the world

  • Two Wheels Kenobi
    Two Wheels Kenobi Ай бұрын +70

    I can only imagine the security risks involved with the advent of cellphones.
    We are a long ways away from the only time guys on deployments were able to reach home was by using a phone setup and controlled by the DoD.
    Now almost every member of the military has a cell or mobile phone which in itself is could be a potential security risk. On top of that they are able to download a multitude of apps that could be potential security risks as well.
    Having been involved with intelligence disciplines such as SIGINT, HUMINT, CI, IMINT and MASINT I can tell you that things have become much more complicated.
    🙏🇺🇸🙏

    • Ygritte
      Ygritte Ай бұрын

      @Huggy Bear Air Force Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Agency
      i don't know what NFRN means. and that's not fair. i understand you can't tell me. but if you have more secure and faster technology then why should us americans not be allowed to own about it?
      i wonder what quantum computer or supercomputer intelligence agencies have?

    • Huggy Bear
      Huggy Bear Ай бұрын +1

      @Ygritte No, couldn't tell you about the phone, not allowed to. Former ISR and intel, held TS/SCI/NFRN clearance. So much stuff the civilian world just doesnt even begin to understand, capability wise.

    • Yoly Rom
      Yoly Rom Ай бұрын

      Well said

    • Two Wheels Kenobi
      Two Wheels Kenobi Ай бұрын

      @Qwopiretyu There is definitely a higher workload for sure.

  • S E
    S E Ай бұрын +5

    Retired Deliveroo serviceman here. Can’t believe in this day and age that highly trained people can be so unconscious when it comes to the basics of high security procedures.

    • S E
      S E Ай бұрын

      @Goy

  • z g
    z g Ай бұрын +5

    Secrets are really hard to keep these days in general. I don't even feel like your exposing anything in particular that i would personally consider new or groundbreaking.

    • David Donson
      David Donson Ай бұрын +1

      Laser induced plasma weapons, go find out where they are! It's impossible.

    • David Donson
      David Donson Ай бұрын +2

      Exactly. This is common knowledge amongst our enemies. Plus, our most valuable weapons aren't even nuclear.

  • onevisualeye_
    onevisualeye_ Ай бұрын

    Amazing journalism great videos always by the number real news source “vise news”!

  • Irish HAM Radio
    Irish HAM Radio Ай бұрын

    Excellent investigation guys 👌🏻

  • Brett S.
    Brett S. Ай бұрын

    WOW. It is a miracle that our mishandling of information hasn't already caused a massive problem.

  • Paul Thomson
    Paul Thomson Ай бұрын +193

    We also had a major problem with fitbits, GI's were using fitbits which downloads their fitness info to the cloud so you can compare your routine to others. Well the enemies were using data from the cloud to pinpoint soldiers locations

    • Hypothalapotamus
      Hypothalapotamus Ай бұрын

      It wasn't fitbit. It was Strava, which is fitbit with social media functionality.

    • John Thomas
      John Thomas Ай бұрын +1

      Yeah they ended up finding secret bases too lolol

    • Mo Tss
      Mo Tss Ай бұрын +1

      It wasn't fit bit it was strava, heat maps.

    • Andy Mac
      Andy Mac Ай бұрын

      Pride before the fall?

  • mango
    mango Ай бұрын +1

    There are also flashcards servers where the content isn't public, but where foreign intelligence services and hackers can access them

  • Gustavo Flores
    Gustavo Flores Ай бұрын +1

    Not a fan of vice but I gotta give it to them on this one, not only exposing the flaws in our beloved country’s army but also correcting the mistakes in order to keep the intel away from enemy hands. This one was 100x better than the stupid Tate video they dropped, they need to focus on more stories like these if they want to b saved & successful

  • scottysaye
    scottysaye 4 күн бұрын

    “This is not meant to be public knowledge” but yet here i am on youtube, viewing this piece of knowledge

  • yec yec
    yec yec Ай бұрын +4

    THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS TO THE WORLDS ATTENTION AND LETTING US KNOW WHERE TO FIND IT, THANK YOU VICE FOR THE TUTORIAL.

  • Echo 1-1 Ghost
    Echo 1-1 Ghost 7 күн бұрын

    Take this directly to the military. Don’t let it be known and exploited

  • Natalia Montelongo
    Natalia Montelongo Ай бұрын +2849

    Imagine trying to study biology for your highschool exam and randomly you encounter nuclear secrets.
    Edit: What in the hell did Joe say?
    Edit 2: Thanks Moe and Justice for the good wishes but I passed my biology exam about 4 years ago. Thanks tho.

    • Willow Malone
      Willow Malone Ай бұрын

      @Mr GoatFish moe and Joe. MoJo.

    • Willow Malone
      Willow Malone Ай бұрын

      @Simon Švec I don't know, but there's apparently a moe and a Joe trading since-deleted insults, and it's all very nebulous and confusing to the outsider such as ourselves.

    • Willow Malone
      Willow Malone Ай бұрын

      @Moe Nola awww that's so sweet 🥺

  • Michael Bushnell
    Michael Bushnell Ай бұрын

    Can't believe they didn't immediately take the flash cards down, though they would have to change everything leaked.

  • ATB
    ATB Ай бұрын +1

    First of all, those aren't Soldiers, they're Airmen in the Air Force from 2013. Also, these are answers to mandatory online training all branches have to conduct. The leaked map was dated 1999. Acronyms aren't classified. Some of the information seems sensitive, but this is an old story.

  • SandyRiverBlue
    SandyRiverBlue 8 күн бұрын

    My biggest issue with this is that it puts an ally at risk. There is a reason why the United States maintains a warhead delivery triad as part of its nuclear response and that is to have multiple options in the case where one is removed from the table. That said, you shouldn't aim to have one removed because that is stupid.

  • Darknamja
    Darknamja Ай бұрын

    I was stationed near Buchel in the '70s. Those weapons appear to be B61 tactical weapons.

  • Eugene Kaleb
    Eugene Kaleb Күн бұрын

    Thanks for making a video and telling the world all of this secret information haha i had no idea until now so dumb

  • Jo Jo
    Jo Jo Ай бұрын +64

    I remember telling my OIC that the only way we were going to be able to meet any kind of OPSEC or INFOSEC standards are if I got disciplinary authority over the entire battalion, which would obviously never ever happen.

    • Dr. Doctor
      Dr. Doctor Ай бұрын

      @Jo Jo its stupid censoring faces in photos that are meant to commemorate events like that, more so when you are uploading it on a social media. but it shouldnt have been uploaded in the first place!
      it wouldnt have been that bad if it was only kept in physical form and even then it should be kept quite secured.

    • Jo Jo
      Jo Jo Ай бұрын +2

      @SME Pictures It's incredibly likely that the journalists are the ones that censored it. I can't imagine a boot too stupid to realize they shouldn't post it on social media being smart enough to cover up the faces.

    • walt lock
      walt lock Ай бұрын +5

      @SME Pictures censored by the journalists - not the original poster.

    • SME Pictures
      SME Pictures Ай бұрын +1

      @Jo Jo looks pretty censored to me.

    • Jo Jo
      Jo Jo Ай бұрын +9

      @Qwopiretyu What a world that would be. But for real, whoever posted that picture of the whole unit with what I assume were uncensored faces... so cringe.

  • erdvilla
    erdvilla Ай бұрын +3

    Like the thief trying to break into a safe desperately trying to figure out the combination to then just realize there is a paper under the desk's glass with the combo written on it.

  • The Northie
    The Northie Ай бұрын +1

    This is like when multiple military members who play War Thunder kept leaking classified tank information on the forum boards.

  • Xx_MATTMAN_xX
    Xx_MATTMAN_xX Ай бұрын +2

    Are you telling me that they put classified nuclear intel in the form of flashcards on quizlet 💀

  • Bye
    Bye Ай бұрын +3

    I have to blame Military Command for Allowing group photos of a entire squadron to be taken... Like you don't do that at these kinds of locations for MANY reasons