00:15 - Peterson's huge lectures/discussions 1:58 - Peterson and Sam Harris 4:20 - The emergence of complex long form discussions/content 9:34 - Why is there a tendency to label public intellectuals as alt right, leftists etc (why is everything politics?) 14:33 - Are universities responsible for establishing norms/opinions that you cannot deviate form publically? 18:04 - How and why hierarchies arise in the psyche and the world 19:50 - Why there needs to be an ongoing conversation between the left and the right 22:18 - Peterson on writing the preface to The Gulag Archipelago and dividing the world into opressor and oppressed 27:07 - Why is left always associated in support of the gay right, all races all genders etc. Does that make them more virtuous? 34:56 - Equality of outcome 36:35 - What do you do with disspossed people (people with low IQ)? 38:06 - Radical left is compassion gone mad ...... and envy 41:19 - Life is not a game. It is a series of games 48:06 - how to behave when you lose 53:07 - Rule 4: Compare yourself to who were yesterday not to who someone is today (from Peterson's 12 Rules book) 01:01:42 - Why do you have to aim low to improve? 01:10:32 - Why is Peterson's book an antidote to chaos if chaos has so much potential? and being critically honest with yourself 01:16:20 - Why bother thinking? 01:18:14 - Meaning is an instinct and responsibility makes your life more meaningful 01:25:23 - Why is Jordan Peterson misrepresented so much? 01:31:33 - Incels and enforced monogamy 01:40:48 - Women are hypergamous 01:48:38 - The gender pay gap 01:51:31 - Tempramental differences between men and women 01:56:44 - Left wing people a motivated by compassion but also envy 01:59:48 - Who's the 1% ? 02:01:44 - Why are people opposed to challenging cultural norms ? 02:05:39 - Peterson's Vice interview and sexual behaviour in the workplace 02:17:14 - It isn't necessarily a mistake to lay yourself open to attack.....(Cathy Newman interview) 02:21:32 - Should Peterson stop doing interviews that'll be edited to avoid controversies? 02:23:58 - Peterson didn't plan to go from University proffesor to household name 02:27:13 - Why Joe Rogan is successful on youtube according to JP and technological revolution of speech being as good as written word 02:37:36 - 12 Rules for not allowed to be a New York Times best seller due to arbitrary rules 02:38:58 - Death spiral for a big organisation, click bait, and news becoming ideological 02:44:42 - JPs carnivore diet 02:57:24 - Why is everyone fat and stupid? 03:00:29 - Arthiritis and fasting 03:06:23 - Are dietry studies reliable ? 03:10:59 - Biological variability and diet 03:13:43 - The intellectual dark web
the components under a patriarchy are not the patriarchy if men control the most important components of a society then it's a patriarchy hierarchies are only based on power because the company owner can hire people that have the skills needed to run the day to day operations and elections are about whose most popular not who has the most knowledge
Peterson's position on the cake baker and discriminating against blacks are inconsistent Joe missed an opportunity to revisit that question now that he has had time to think about it
A point I would make about taking the risk of editing is that the more people who know who you are and what your genuine goals are will know when you're taken out of context because they know what you genuinely think and talk about and also about your moral values and ethics. Carry on regardless as if you're genuinely looking for the good and best for people then that will happen in an organic way. Eventually enough people will know what you think and talk about and will know what can be attributed to you and what has been distorted by editing for someone else's agenda
Jordan peterson, joe rogan and Andrew tate have all got me off my ass, off of drugs (I still drink whisky on the weekends lol) and focused on why I need to do to help me and my family. I’m eternally grateful for these men and some of the messages they gave me… I’ve realised a lot of what I’ve missed out on was not having a father figure growing up though. I’m working on it, I still have lots of issues but I feel like I’m becoming a better man every week
Jordan Peterson has saved my life. Love him so much. I was in such a dark place before buying his books, listening to his lectures and implementing some of his practices!🤍Joe Rogan is always a pleasure to listen to as well.
I found this interview so inspiring. As human beings I believe that unfortunately are egos prevent us from really growing as people when our lives could be so much more with the advice given here from Jordan Peterson who I believe is an incredible human being. Thankyou Jordan you are an amazing speaker and lecturer.
I deleted my social media, and stopped watching the mainstream news once I got accustomed to longform podcasts and debates. It's so refreshing and educational. I'll be honest, in the past I would have rather thrown my TV out the window than watch 3 hours of their "news". This is where progress is made, and people can actually learn. Well done.
Things like this are useless if they remain only on "I listened" ! You have to implement things you heard ! Even my comment is useless , redundant and misleading (for me personally) if I don't actually take action immediately after posting it. Less talk, more action
Because he really put himself out there to be shot at and criticised and even allow editing it brought all these really important l subjects , wonderful subjects , brilliant discussions from both sides and at his health's expense . Brave guy and definitely a great man
Had the privilege to see Dr. Peterson last week in Detroit MI, it was worth every penny. I felt like a child on Christmas enjoying the lecture with my wife. God Bless you for all you do, Dr. Peterson spoke highly of Joe Rogan as well! Was a true blessing
My husband and I have tickets to see Dr. Peterson in Billings, MT in May and it's hard to wait!!! I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it...but then, it's Jordan, so how can the event be anything but amazing, right?!! 😁 He is a treasure!
Jordan Peterson is a very compassionate person who wants people to succeed as best they can. Yes, he may not be all cuddly but uses his intellect and speech. More people need to listen to this man.
Joe and Jordan. Thank you. This is the third or fourth time I've listened to this podcast and thank you. It's refreshing to hear real real dialog and hearing Dr. Jordan's critiques makes clarity out of fog. Thank you.
Hey Joe - I love you man; I've watched many of your interviews, and enjoyed every goddamned one I watched. But this one - this is the first one where I legitimately watched the whole thing end to end. Major thumbs up to you, from someone who already liked you and appreciated what you do. Please keep it up. Your efforts have not gone unnoticed, at least by this one dude commenting on KZclip.
The first time I came across Jordan Peterson I was looking up something to do with motherhood as I was trying to navigate through some difficult aspects of motherhood. I came across a video of him talking about women and men in terms of parenting and I think he was talking about how kids need the mom to be their primary attachment more than the dad and I can't remember what else he said but whatever it was it helped me at the time with struggles I was having with motherhood. There was a mom group I was in on Facebook and someone posted with a struggle they were having and it related to the video. I shared it and explained that it helped me and seemed relevant to her situation too. Then another mom commented and said "be careful. Jordan Peterson is a known misogynist. I wouldn't be looking into what he says too much." Or something along those lines. I replied that I had no idea who he was but I didn't get that at all from this particular clip and found what he said in it to be helpful so I still felt it was worth sharing and fine to share. The mom who originally posted also said that she didn't find it misogynistic at all and that it helped her and she appreciated the message. Then I did more looking into him with the presupposition that he was a misogynist and keeping an eye out for that. It's been probably 3 years now and I watch a lot of his videos and understand them from the level he is speaking at, not from what he is often misconstrued as saying. The Cathy Newman video was super uncomfortable to watch, the way she attacked him relentlessly but it was amazing how he kept his cool. There are definitely some things that women have to go through that men can't fully understand the weight of, and I think that at times his delivery doesn't always portray that. But what he is seeing and trying to make a difference with is the things that men go through that women can't fully understand and that people dismiss or aren't even aware of at all. It's a very similar issue to racism in the sense that we can't just blame all white people for being the problem when most now are not contributing to the problem. But we do have to be aware and sensitive of the residual effects of past traumas and help and give space for the healing process. Without pushing white people down as oppressors. I've been hearing about young kids in schools being bullied just because they are white. And a mom who's son was experiencing this posted about her son dealing with racism and multiple people telling her that because her son is white then it isn't racism. The whole definition of racism is treating someone badly based on their race. But it's the same thing between men and women, now that women are no longer being repressed as we were in past years, there is a huge hate on men being oppressors and wanting to tear down men. We feel the collective past pain from the trauma that some women experienced. There is no denying that it was more commonplace years ago to beat your wife and treat her like your property. But it isn't fair to blame and condemn men who have done none of this, simply because they are male. And completely ignore the very real challenges that men today are facing, because it doesn't fit with the man hate style feminism that is popular right now. In some ways, it may be because he is trying to make a point against something that is seen as so concrete - the patriarchy - that he gets his back up and is more vehemently against it and doesn't mention any of the nuance where there have in the past been power struggles that caused many women to suffer, just the parts against it. (In lots if cases he does go into this, but in some he doesn't, especially when only clips are shown which in that case isnt his fault at all, just what others are showing of him). But it isn't quite as black and white as - women didn't have the right to vote because they didn't go to war. That is a fair point and absolutely women didn't have to do that which is a huge privilege, women dont want to do the dirty jobs mostly, there are tons of valid explanations he gives for the pay gap and voting and things like that. But there have definitely been ways where women were oppressed and treated as sub human. But again, not all men were acting that way and not all women were being treated that way universally. That may be where he loses some people, because it may seem that he is saying that women have it great and there is no oppression, when he says there is no patriarchy. But to me it seems that his main goal a lot of the time when speaking about men and women is to speak to what isn't being said. What most people aren't hearing or thinking of. Everyone knows women have been through some hard shit and treated in degrading ways but it's not that we have had things worse than men across the board or that it was all women all the time. And talk of the patriarchy generally lends to thinking of a few white men with all the money controlling everyone, but also men in charge in every profession and controlling all positions of power. What Jordan talks about with the statistics makes perfect sense and seems common sense. You pull someone off the street there is a certain percent chance they are stereotypical to their gender in terms of being more on the compassionate side or more on the analytical side, more chance on one side than the other but not a crazy amount. But you go to the top percent in each area and it will be overwhelmingly one gender occupying all the top spots. So it makes sense for men to gravitate towards certain jobs and women to gravitate towards others, and men to get paid more if they are working longer hours etc. Although it definitely hasn't always been that way either and in some places there ARE misogynist still treating women like they deserve less because of their gender. I was actually listening to Oprah talking about it the other day. About how when she was a news anchor the man that did the exact same job as her, same hours and everything, was being paid more and she confronted her bosses and they laughed her off and said she shouldn't be paid the same as him because she's a single female. Then when she had her own show she had female producers and wanted to give them a raise because they were being underpaid for the position and their response was "why? They're just girls!" It does happen, but not to the extent that todays feminists often make it seem. Anyways. I am a huge fan of Jordan Peterson and I love listening to him talk. It's heartbreaking to see how he has been vilified and his sole motivation is to help people and make a difference with his time here and DESPITE depression and all the physical obstacles he has had to face and being constantly misrepresented and vilified and attacked he STILL shows up for us and sacrifices his peace in the hopes it will help more people to live a better life. He is an absolute legend and yes he has faults like anyone but he does his absolute best to be aware of them and to work on them and be better and better all the time. Some of the ways I've seen people try to attack him (like the Cathy Newman interview) leave me wondering like have they never watched anything he's ever said before? Have they only ever seen snippets of him out of context and been told other people's smeary opinions of what he's trying to say? Lol so many people are on a manhunt to catch him saying something reprehensible. And also seem completely taken aback at his propensity to maintain a level head and challenge their stance against him lol he is fascinating to watch in those situations. The more I watch him, the more I understand where he's coming from and appreciate his perspectives and information.
If given a choice of whom i could have a drink and some productive philosophical conversation with it would be these two individuals...they take an extremely objective approach to all thier discussions...they pursue resolutions to thier discussion topics even on subjects they dont totally agree on and they usually find them...i love these convos
I love that you can see Jordan's passion. When he looks away and takes a sec he's holding back tears at times cause he really feels the point he's trying to express. I really feel that.
the components under a patriarchy are not the patriarchy if men control the most important components of a society then it's a patriarchy hierarchies are only based on power because the company owner can hire people that have the skills needed to run the day to day operations and elections are about whose most popular not who has the most knowledge
Peterson's position on the cake baker and discriminating against blacks are inconsistent Joe missed an opportunity to revisit that question now that he has had time to think about it
The incremental improvement is something I learned from a decade of parkour, and it seems like Joe learned it from fighting. I forget that some people haven't learned that lesson, so it always shocks me when people self defeat and give up for not being the best at something their first time trying it
i was deep asleep and this podcast was on. i thought i was in a dream but i could hear and pickup every word like he was speaking to me. i cried in my sleep i had that "moment" when the tv or video was talking at me directly. this is no coincidence.. everything he said about being in a dark place and cleaning up etc i have been and still am for 5 years now. cant believe this was 4 years ago. 😞 thankful to have come across this
I think I can tell you why you're so popular, Mr. Peterson: it's because you're honest, you tell the truth, and you don't back down just because you're challenged. Even more so, you are someone who has synthesized what we all see and know but are unable, ourselves, to put it all together - and you have the ability for communicating it. You connect those dots that we're all seeing but don't have the ability, either in time or information, to form the picture. That is true brilliance, and it can be applied to every person who we call brilliant, no matter the venue.
Was lucky enough to see this JRE, & the one with Jordan & Bret Weinstein, the first time around and it was truly a privilege to finally hear so many of my own uncondensed thoughts and feelings about the world articulated by such a wonderful speaker. We each of us lost our direction, our hope, and self-belief.....but at least partly, had it returned to us by Jordan being direct & honest, and not dumbing it down! A great few hours to relive! Enjoy!
Even though Joe doesn't say much during his interviews with Jordan Peterson, the sheer amount of respect he holds for JP is so palpable and so genuine, that even though Joe isn't "participating", he is. As an avid listener of Joe's podcasts, I just love when him and Jordan get together because Joe is the most perfect and engaged listener - he knows exactly the right moments to interject, to share relevant anecdotes and to ask questions. He not only allows Jordan to think out loud, but his insightful commentary without ever really interrupting really encourages JP to be his true self. Jordan, IMO, is always at his best during his conversations with Joe, and that says so much more about Joe than I think he gets credited for. Such an engaging podcast! You learn how to think from Jordan, and how to behave from Joe. Love them both.
Ghryst VanGhod Hey, I understand what you're saying - perhaps to the less informed listener (not necessarily yourself) this interview doesn't exactly present a lot of 'challenges' to JP, so in that sense I can agree that it's not 'furthering' the conversation. As an avid JP fan, my comment was more so in reference to Joe's willingness to *listen* - a very rare occurrence with Peterson. His thoughts, opinions and ideas are not easily digestible - he's an academic, so it takes him quite some time to put into words what he's thinking, and it takes the listener an even more significant amount of time to work through what he's presented. There's a lot of complexities going on behind a lot of what he says, and due to persistent interjections by less-engaged listeners, much of JP's time in interviews is spent deflecting straw man arguments. I like that Joe gives him to the opportunity to really just let it all out. I guess the way I think about it is, most interviews or clips people watch of Jordan are equivalent to reading the abstract of an academic paper; Joe's podcast is like reading the paper itself.
Jake Brill omg totally. I like that Joe feels comfortable questioning him (which he does tend to do with a lot of 'controversial' his guests). In some sense he challenges them, but it's fuelled less by the need to discredit the other's point and more so about searching for an underlying common ground. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit, it's just that we don't see this type of welcomed discussion with JP very often. His way of thinking is so convoluted that it takes time and effort for him to really get out what he's trying to say, and I guess I appreciate the platform Joe gives him to do that.
I also love that Joe is willing to question someone like Peterson. The whole enforced monogamy thing was a super complicated topic that needed some explaining and Joe is the perfect guy to hunt for some answers. Love to both of these guys.
What Dr Peterson says at approx. 2:27:25, sums up, (in my opinion), the absolute reason why this podcast is so popular. Keep up the good work, Joe and team! Also, Joe is a mixture of all the really cool and positive, fun men surrounding in my life (father, brothers, husband, friends, associates, coworkers. etc.), that I look up to and have a great time enjoying good conversation. Dr Peterson, you are speaking the absolute truth. Please don't stop. More people need to hear you. God bless.
I think what makes jp such a good figure to listen to, is because he looks deep into situations, what action, lead to this action that ultimately lead to the situation that we're in now, and this is how we really need to look at things, its common sense man
Hearing prepared people talk about things like this makes me sleep in peace at night. Its very important to notice that even if we are looking at two human beings, mortal individuals. They keep such a neutral attitude towards the reality of the objective situation. Things are what they are and of course they can be changed and improved, but not only by complaint but by analysis and rehearsal of new tools and strategies. I have always felt deep inside me and understood every single word they talked about during these 3 hours, even as a kid. And for some reason i believe if every single one of us tries our best to grasp these objective facts, we would all agree on their core truth. A very simple but real situation is when at point 38:30 Joe gives the example of his daughters soccer game, and explains how hard it is to make the point of earning something that falls into a subjective competitive and meritocratic, where as he puts it in very clear words. It feels bad or heavy when we don't get what we want or think we deserve, and how if it didn't it wouldn't be possible to feel good when you do win, when you do score, when you are rewarded for you effort and dedication. Great job! Great podcast! Great research and most of all, great courage to put it out here for all of us to digest.
Since discovering Jordan Peterson online and watching his videos, I got myself out of dead end retail work and into IT. I enjoy my work, I'm studying a lot to get qualified to move up in my new career, passed my driving test and I'm on the road. Im 29. Should not have taken me this long. Getting your act together and throwing some effort into the world is incredibly rewarding. Not just my professional life, but my personal life too. Just gotta tidy my room now...
Well done, to everyone wanting to better themselves. At least you took action and make it happen. I respect anyone who can say I'm not happy doing this work, and they're able to say "I can't see myself doing that for another 30 years, so well done. When we're caught up in something we're not able to be objective, but standing on the outside looking in, the bigger picture emerges.
Same boat. 29, about to be 30. Dropped out of college and worked various dead end job. Now I'm studying programming to get into a coding bootcamp with all the stimulus money I pocketed during quarantine.
Jordan's mind is so great not to mention his humility and love for humanity and great understanding of how law has no business in decisions pertaining to how people communicate and how they perceive others.
I am grateful to my core to have this powerful content at the tip of my fingers at the point in my life when I can fully receive it. Imagine the master level soul grow these two men earned in this lifetime for affecting so many lives. Thank you Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson for sharing your brilliance with the humanity!
Hearing this story for the second time and it's still amazing to hear... Crazy that Jordan your daughter has the same thing mine does she is 22 so it carried into adulthood trying to fight insurance to pay for her medication which is called a biologic she was on methotrexate and solumedrol and prednisone and eye drops and remicaid and humira now going to try cimzia its so hard to watch her struggle I have to look into this carnivore diet for her she is a young mom so needs to be chasing babies so hoping this will help her but I'm going to try to look into this carnivore diet
@trollnerd it's not equality of outcome bc not everybody gets a mate and you choose your mate. This isn't related to law or anything to do with it. This is deeper than that. You're grasping at straws. It's equal opportunity.
Apples to oranges definitely!! Slavery=inequality in many levels. The only "forced equality equasl to slavery would be slavery it self. Which is an inequality not an equality.
@Duke The mental gymnastics that you JP cultists do to make the things he says make sense are insane. Its seriously equivalent to the lengths that Christian apologists go to when proving the bible is fact. Face facts: enforced monogamy is equality of outcome. No matter what efforts you put in or natural talents you possess, the outcome is one woman per man. That's equality of outcome. You just need to accept that JPs arguments are wildly inconsistent. This is the problem with making blanket statements like "all equality of outcome is bad". Not all equality of outcome is bad. I'm not faulting Peterson necessarily for advocating equality of outcome, I'm faulting him for being an inconsistent hypocrite.
1:05:36 - this is very real. Almost every destructive "sentence/word" posted here by Mr. Jordan Peterson brought me into these "dark times" of my existence. His lectures and videos where he talks about the purpose of life etc really work. Imo just cracked the code for living in harmony with yourself. I'm really grateful that I somehow managed to come across videos of him on the internet because I can't imagine (scary thoughts haunted me for a very long time) where I would be right now. IF I saw him across the street - I would HUG him VERY TIGHT. In a way, he saved me from myself
38:08 All that talk about low IQ being a predicter for poverty but ask him to connect the dots in regards to race and watch him act confused as to why you would ask him that.
So impressed with Joe being able to draw out and roll with this in depth conversation of our human psyche. Have to say, it's hard to watch and follow it all, in one sitting, so don't. I'll be coming back to it a number of times. on a side note, Watched a movie with Dad, THX 1138, this podcast is the day after lol. 1139.
I know Dr Peterson doesn’t want to be viewed as a hero because he’s a humble man. However I can’t help but see him as a hero, I get emotional seeing how happy (genuinely happy) he is when talking about people he’s helped. What an absolute diamond of a man, I’m sure he’s done things privately in his life that make imperfect but overall what a brilliant and kind man.
He would be happy that you think he’s a hero. Because he would say you’re looking up. And then he would tell you a story about it that you probably couldn’t imagine till he told you.
Im gonna fill a whole note book from these two podcasts, No one to talk to spend so much time alone taking notes and learning so one day i can be where i want to. I really love the advice thank you so much! glad I waited to start watching these. Im gonna learn so much from you joe Thank you, Thank you both!
This episode - hands down my all time favorite. Joe Rohan and Jordan Peterson are my favorite two people to listen to no matter what it is about. I learn so much anytime I listen to either one of them. The both of them are super intelligent human beings and I can say that I am grateful for being alive at the same time they are.
I have watched this podcast probably 5 or 10 times ... Who knows... I've watched thousands of hours of Peterson's maps of meaning and personality lectures.... I may have watched more Jordan Peterson content than anyone on the planet... ( That's way too much by the way... Lol) but I still start crying every time I start reading the comments of the videos... Because so many people have dug themselves out of holes even deeper than the one I'm in after learning the priceless information Peterson conveys. But I still can't climb out of my own hole... I've just decided to quit my job as a construction supervisor and go back to college at age 33... I had to use alot of drugs to climb to the position I had in construction.... 84 hour work weeks for 5 months out of the year required lots of uppers for me... But I'm about to start from scratch and I'm only a few weeks sober... I already failed at college once straight out of high school... I can hear the correct advice from Peterson echoing in my head as I type this ... But that's been the case since 2016 when I first discovered him .... I just don't know why it's taking me so long to start improving when I began this journey 6 years ago... And I've really been fighting addiction for 15 years... But I will not give up and take my life .. I'm aiming high and continue to get out of bed most mornings... I just hope I see some positive results soon... I'm exhausted...
I cry every single time I read the comments too! Not because i'm sad but because i'm happy and incredibly moved...Especially by the stories from people who have really fucked up their lives and thru JP and sheer TRIUMPH of the WILL they have gotten back onto the right path and went onto become happy successful people who are thriving in life. Just KEEP GOING BRO. U and I both know that the HARD FAUGHT WINS are the only ones that leave u with that everlasting feeling of pride in chest.
Your earnest and honest intellectual rigour is incredibly precious, Mr Peterson.Thank you sincerely .I trust you are changing our world significantly and positively. Stay well.
Was noticing all the things Peterson said about Joe as an interviewer. I'm brand new to his channel, and have been enjoying this interview tremendously. Being a bit of an analyst myself, I tried to figure out what it was about Joe that made him so good, and came to the same conclusions as Peterson, especially that Joe follows up on things he doesn't understand. It's a superlative quality in an interviewer. He also lets his guests talk to complete their point without interruption. 👍
I also tuned into Rogan only recently when they tried to cancel him. He is immensely engaging, and like you I was really curious as to why he has such a mass appeal. Yes, JP's spin on Rogan was great:)
I've watched this many times and every time Rule 4 comes up it reminds me of what my grandfather said personally to me knowing how depressed I am. I wrestle with it in my head all the time. He said "I understand the power of stagnation you're suffering. Funny thing about the fog depression puts you in *haha*, you forget.... Imagine if you were as you are now and didn't feel this way... What a waste right?" Knowing you're capable will propel you to greatness. Depression is the catalyst of true growth. I cant shake that saying years later.
I will personally say that Jordan Peterson is a genius I haven't always felt this way till I decided to open my mind and look at what he means. One thing that really hits home is start small and build up this may sound silly but I've decided for the last month to stop eating processed foods and limit how much i eat, also pick up my area and rely on being more independent. Yes small goals but I suffer from depression and bipolar/PTSD. I will personally say I'm supposed to be on alot of psych meds not on them now however just doing these small goals has made me feel a lot more confident and proud of myself. I haven't had any depressive episodes this last 3 weeks and only small mood fluctuations.
@DUC3 you must be 12... It’s taken that way because reality is different and often times additional responsibilities are not so easy to be taken and sacristy lead to more stress. You are either 12 or born into a rich household and therefore didnt experience this. The fact that you end with “undeserving of happiness and weak” just tells me enough about the type of person you are…
I think this quote can be used in many context and so when taken out of context it sounds as if he's saying the solution to your problems is to be stressed. However, that would be a simple minded way to interpret it. Anyone with any base logic would take this as meaning "The more you take on responsibilities, the better you're going to feel about yourself as you maintain said responsibilities because you'll feel more accomplished and like you have more of a life and those with meaning to life have better life quality than those who lack responsibility and do nothing with themselves" but, I mean, to each their own. In my personal opinion, if living life with as much responsibility as required to maintain a higher quality of life is too much responsibility for your taste, you're not deserving of happiness and you're weak.
I think the push from spoken word comes from being able to hear a persons tone, cadence, emotion, ect, vs when reading there isnt a clear idicator. Its way more impactful. Ive learned just as much listening to guys like Peterson and Joe on the Internet in the past 5 years than i did in my whole career in school
I love no interruptions. Just being able to listen and not reach for the pass , so I could just listen and close my eyes and get comfortable. Thank you so much.
I wish I listened to this 4 years ago. The idea of transcending oneself to become a better person is such valuable advice. It took me 3 days to get the motivation to mow my massive backyard. I've just been too tired, too willfully lazy, etc. After I finished it, I couldn't really explain why it felt so good to get it done other than crossing another chore off my list. But really it's because this time last year, I was suicidal in a horribly abusive relationship and spending most of my time in the hospital because of chronic illness. But today I'm not in constant pain, I dumped the abusive loser, and my lawn is absolutely beautiful ❤️ Thanks for this podcast guys
I fell almost under the mower while mowing my backyard. Two acre yard and I went for a while without mowing it after that. It grew up and I'll be danged if when my father-in-law and good friend Tim came over with his riding lawnmower and mowed it if we didn't find a bed of grass that had been layed on by a bear. Glad I didn't find him when trying to mow that stuff. Still whenever I get my trash to the dump or mow that lawn, as a disabled person who too is lazy for dayz, it gives me great satisfaction. :)
I will never understand how/why anyone would dislike, let alone hate, Jordan Peterson. I can't think of a single person in modern society that has put forth as much interest and effort into helping and improving society as a whole as Dr. Peterson has. He is remarkably intelligent and compassionate and frankly if even a small percentage of the world thought and acted in the way that he does, we would all be living in a much better and happier world. I'd love nothing more than to shake this man's hand one day and thank him for all the good he has introduced into the world.
@SchftyP By your logic, everyone with a higher education than us should agree. I mean, they're smarter, right? Go listen to the opinions of some highly educated people on the topic of Jordan Peterson...and remember, if they've had a better education than you or me then they have to be right, right?
I'm up to 45 minutes and so far, this has been Peterson's most concise explanation of hierarchy in years. Free markets, games, the left-right spectrum, temperament, motivation.
Jordan is always learning and refining his ideas every time he grapples with these concepts. It's very much a different mindset from the intellectual debates years ago which were little more than "I *know* god doesn't exist" vs "I *know* god exists", and it's a breath of fresh air for anyone who not only wants to grapple with an idea, but to see it grow.
Wow! How did I not see this until today? For being 4 years old it feels as though you are talking about what is currently happening! I am so thankful you stepped up!
Jordan got emotional ALOT talking about his lectures and little Tours that he's doing SO WELL, it really seems that his emotion is ultimately derived from the self realization that he Truly DOES have a sense of purpose, he DOES have a message worth hearing, and he IS of Great Value to people all over the country, and likely all over the Globe. He is an intelligent and empathetic man, and seeing him become emotional at the mere THOUGHT of his WORTH to mankind, is honestly Humbling, and beautiful. Jordan is a GOOD man, who had seemingly nothing to gain for standing up with the messages he DID come out with, yet he did it none the less, and found Personal Fulfillment in it, as well as a sense of almost divine purpose, and Im so GD happy to see, in the end there was SO MUCH for Jordan to Gain by doing and saying the things he says and does... If ANYONE on this planet fucking deserves that purpose, fulfillment, and recognition, and Monetary gain for standing up and making his voice heard... Its Jordan Peterson.
not a usual interview main stream news! no agenda driven questions. a great source of information, that is a pleasure to view. no wonder why you are leading the industry. keep up the good work.
Joe Rogan and Peterson are such a great combination. Jordan Communicates these incredible ideas, while Joe is able to translate them into digestible nuggets of wisdom
I feel like Joe is the semi smart friend you tag along with cause they can keep up with the intellectuals in way that allows us pleebs to soak up all the wisdom without looking a fool.
The fight for good that this man is leading is astounding. I am so thankful that people like Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan exist, that it often moves me to tears. I thank you deeply, true gentlemen that you are.
No matter how many times I watch these two in a discussion, I always have a mental take away, in a good way. 4 years later I respect Dr Peterson more and more, and of course Joe! Dr Peterson gets a lot of disrespect from those who know he's right and their ideology contradicts his but he's so on point. I just hope he knows that he helps more people than is "offended" by his logic. Thank you both for changing so many. And bless all you for listening and expressing appreciation! Your stories and your lives are important and extremely helpful to others as well! 🙏💞💞🙏😉
41:50, this life advice from JP killed it. How to teach your kid the MEANING behind why it's not whether you win or lose but how you play the game. Amazing.
I agree wholeheartedly. What a great thought! Explaining why winning and losing isn’t the most important part of sports is so difficult. I was raised to always do your best to win the game. I wish someone would have made it clear to my younger self that the series of games is far more important than the individual.
Dude its wrong, they dont know what they re talking about in terms of coaching sport. check out my comment above, its more nuanced than that, you do not try and teach meaning overtly but have the class scaled and translated to their abilities across all areas. If you try and teach meaning, like being nice to others, overtly, you have them thinking about that instead of how to play the sport, and you may aswell be in church. You want to use their love of the game to impart meaning through play with others. Make a game from that sport that involves sharing, working together, doing things for others, that encourages being nice and sharing and then repeat until they do it naturally. over time adding these principles into other activities and using that game as a reminder will make it easier to apply and be more intrinsic for them. IF you make games that are always 'you race against him, or blue team vs white team, then you ll eventually get a super competitive team, and if your team is waining in competitiveness, for example, add some competition to your sessions. Whenever you try to force meaning onto a class you lose the kids and its hard to get them back, the only time its more likely to work is in the dressing room or before you kick a ball but if you dont have time for that you need to create games that have meaning embedded within it for the results you want to get. If you want to be a sports coach and you have high personal ideals for your kids, then be careful what drills you choose as it will dictate what the players think and feel like on and off the court. Remember what being picked last was like, or losing, or making a mistake, I m not saying get rid of that but scale it down to their age so that its not AS traumatic and increase the level of trauma they can handle as they get older. If you have a kid exposed to too much trauma early they will either have dramatic responses to stress when they get older or hide away from the game completely due to subconscious stresses related to that sport, sports in general, or general team work and society. I think a lot of people fall into that category because of the hamfisted way sports were taught in the past, we arent training for battle anymore, they have robots for that shit, these are kids that want to have fun and be with friends.
But when enough time passes, you are eventually forgotten. Solomon knew this if you read Ecclesiastes. Even if you become the greatest person in the world at one point, with enough time, you become forgotten and your existence is completely doubted with enough passage of time.
@Michael Reay the components under a patriarchy are not the patriarchy if men control the most important components of a society then it's a patriarchy hierarchies are only based on power because the company owner can hire people that have the skills needed to run the day to day operations and elections are about whose most popular not who has the most knowledge
@Michael Reay Peterson's position on the cake baker and discriminating against blacks are inconsistent Joe missed an opportunity to revisit that question now that he has had time to think about it
This is the one man I want to meet and have a conversation with. I feel like he would be the one person to listen and truly give sound advice. He is inspiring and straight forward. So much respect for this man
This is my fourth time listening to each of both Peterson’s interventions on your podcast! I could listen to him for hours, days, months, years! Smart and wise man! Everytime I listen to it I keep learning more about myself, society, humans, life, death, everything! And you Joe, are also a great host !!! Thanks for your work guys! 🙏 (I’m French btw)
I was thankful to have a father until 22, but after that, the need to continue to seek wisdom lives. Another great father financially is Dave Ramsey, imagine a financial Peterson.
Must have been really refreshing to Dr. Petersen when he was on a show and the person opposite him didn't constantly interrupt him and actually contributed to the conversation.
Thank you... sorry for the short message but I've not got the vocabulary to express myself, I'm fighting to better my life and you are a integral part of the process. God bless you always.
man it seems that alot dont understand how many minds this man has changed for the better... bringing people back from a very dark place! saving lives!! The TRUTH IS TRUTH. Helping people to understand who they are again and solve things that they have never understood.. Think and listen carefully to what he says it honestly helps!
I also have a theory that the reason you become more sensitive to changes in diet the more extreme your diet is, its because your stomach prepares a special balance of acids to optimally process these nutrients. I believe jordan and his daughter struggle to process certain nutrients, and thus need an extreme diet where they're guts can adapt to the things it can process, basically mid maxing his gut adaptation
I have started to make it a point to watch this episode at least once a year or even more if I find myself struggling mentally. It seems to magically center my thinking every time I watch it.
@Thomas Andersen the main thing I noticed about both men is they never talk over anyone. They have what is called a "conversation", instead of just waiting for their turn to speak. They both try to address problems from a positive and compassionate POV and even offer solutions.
2:29:13 My biggest problem with challenging my intellectual side is not being able to sit down with a book and read in peace, these conversations matter to me
I put this on before bed and literally had Jordan Peerson doing a speech in my dream it was a cool dream I remember 1 part where he said, the only thing that matters for you is that you do it
One of the few benefits of current technology. Great debate and conversation. I don’t feel alone anymore - you realise there are many other like minded people.
This man has changed my life I was an addict I started listening to his seminars I got myself off pills started going to school for my CDL license It took two years I failed alot but I stuck with it I own my own home I'm about to get married and start a family I plan to teach my son or daughter the same values he taught me
the components under a patriarchy are not the patriarchy if men control the most important components of a society then it's a patriarchy hierarchies are only based on power because the company owner can hire people that have the skills needed to run the day to day operations and elections are about whose most popular not who has the most knowledge
Peterson's position on the cake baker and discriminating against blacks are inconsistent Joe missed an opportunity to revisit that question now that he has had time to think about it
Hey mate congrats on your sobriety, it's one of the hardest things to do so it's huge that you've accomplished that. What gender was your child? Congrats on that as well :) It'll be great motivation to stay strong and sober as well.
I wish i would have heard of Dr. Peterson before now, four years ago. Im so glad hes coming to the forefront now, its incredible to listen to him speak on anything. He is helping so many people by lifting them up, giving courage, giving advice and understanding. Thank you! And thanks to Joe for being a wise man as well💯
Mr. Peterson is one of the most important people of our time. I would be as bold enough to say that he is the modern day version (probably better than) Plato ! I thank every day this man raises consciousness in this world. Much love from all of us Mr Jordan Peterson.
I want to say thanks for this discussion, I have been self assessing weekly, and I am further than I was 3 months ago ,keeping discipline to create motivation.
00:15 - Peterson's huge lectures/discussions
1:58 - Peterson and Sam Harris
4:20 - The emergence of complex long form discussions/content
9:34 - Why is there a tendency to label public intellectuals as alt right, leftists etc (why is everything politics?)
14:33 - Are universities responsible for establishing norms/opinions that you cannot deviate form publically?
18:04 - How and why hierarchies arise in the psyche and the world
19:50 - Why there needs to be an ongoing conversation between the left and the right
22:18 - Peterson on writing the preface to The Gulag Archipelago and dividing the world into opressor and oppressed
27:07 - Why is left always associated in support of the gay right, all races all genders etc. Does that make them more virtuous?
34:56 - Equality of outcome
36:35 - What do you do with disspossed people (people with low IQ)?
38:06 - Radical left is compassion gone mad ...... and envy
41:19 - Life is not a game. It is a series of games
48:06 - how to behave when you lose
53:07 - Rule 4: Compare yourself to who were yesterday not to who someone is today (from Peterson's 12 Rules book)
01:01:42 - Why do you have to aim low to improve?
01:10:32 - Why is Peterson's book an antidote to chaos if chaos has so much potential? and being critically honest with yourself
01:16:20 - Why bother thinking?
01:18:14 - Meaning is an instinct and responsibility makes your life more meaningful
01:25:23 - Why is Jordan Peterson misrepresented so much?
01:31:33 - Incels and enforced monogamy
01:40:48 - Women are hypergamous
01:48:38 - The gender pay gap
01:51:31 - Tempramental differences between men and women
01:56:44 - Left wing people a motivated by compassion but also envy
01:59:48 - Who's the 1% ?
02:01:44 - Why are people opposed to challenging cultural norms ?
02:05:39 - Peterson's Vice interview and sexual behaviour in the workplace
02:17:14 - It isn't necessarily a mistake to lay yourself open to attack.....(Cathy Newman interview)
02:21:32 - Should Peterson stop doing interviews that'll be edited to avoid controversies?
02:23:58 - Peterson didn't plan to go from University proffesor to household name
02:27:13 - Why Joe Rogan is successful on youtube according to JP and technological revolution of speech being as good as written word
02:37:36 - 12 Rules for not allowed to be a New York Times best seller due to arbitrary rules
02:38:58 - Death spiral for a big organisation, click bait, and news becoming ideological
02:44:42 - JPs carnivore diet
02:57:24 - Why is everyone fat and stupid?
03:00:29 - Arthiritis and fasting
03:06:23 - Are dietry studies reliable ?
03:10:59 - Biological variability and diet
03:13:43 - The intellectual dark web
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Thank you!!!!!
the components under a patriarchy are not the patriarchy
if men control the most important components of a society then it's a patriarchy
hierarchies are only based on power because the company owner can hire people that have the skills needed to run the day to day operations
and elections are about whose most popular
not who has the most knowledge
Peterson's position on the cake baker and discriminating against blacks are inconsistent
Joe missed an opportunity to revisit that question
now that he has had time to think about it
A point I would make about taking the risk of editing is that the more people who know who you are and what your genuine goals are will know when you're taken out of context because they know what you genuinely think and talk about and also about your moral values and ethics. Carry on regardless as if you're genuinely looking for the good and best for people then that will happen in an organic way. Eventually enough people will know what you think and talk about and will know what can be attributed to you and what has been distorted by editing for someone else's agenda
Thank you captain obvious!
Jordan peterson, joe rogan and Andrew tate have all got me off my ass, off of drugs (I still drink whisky on the weekends lol) and focused on why I need to do to help me and my family. I’m eternally grateful for these men and some of the messages they gave me… I’ve realised a lot of what I’ve missed out on was not having a father figure growing up though. I’m working on it, I still have lots of issues but I feel like I’m becoming a better man every week
@C.A.A.N my thoughts exactly, dont mix a toxic misogynistic abuser with these great men.
have a look also at the teachings of Jim Rhon
Do not lump in Andrew Tate with Jordan or Joe.
@Danny Moynihan wtf
Jordan Peterson has saved my life. Love him so much. I was in such a dark place before buying his books, listening to his lectures and implementing some of his practices!🤍Joe Rogan is always a pleasure to listen to as well.
I can say the same thing, Mr Peterson helped me get out of a dark time
Joe really knows how to let his guests talk. At length. In that regard he's a great host.
I found this interview so inspiring. As human beings I believe that unfortunately are egos prevent us from really growing as people when our lives could be so much more with the advice given here from Jordan Peterson who I believe is an incredible human being. Thankyou Jordan you are an amazing speaker and lecturer.
Ego is the devil
I deleted my social media, and stopped watching the mainstream news once I got accustomed to longform podcasts and debates. It's so refreshing and educational. I'll be honest, in the past I would have rather thrown my TV out the window than watch 3 hours of their "news". This is where progress is made, and people can actually learn. Well done.
In other words you'll receive all of your information from tertiary sources.
By 2025, you can finish 2000-hour-long game of throne audiobooks.
By 2050, you become Buddha.
JK.
I did the same! I feel that my time is much more valuable now! 🙅🏻♀️
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Things like this are useless if they remain only on "I listened" ! You have to implement things you heard ! Even my comment is useless , redundant and misleading (for me personally) if I don't actually take action immediately after posting it. Less talk, more action
this guy has been so inspiring to me and jordan peterson he helped me mentally so much
Because he really put himself out there to be shot at and criticised and even allow editing it brought all these really important l subjects , wonderful subjects , brilliant discussions from both sides and at his health's expense . Brave guy and definitely a great man
Had the privilege to see Dr. Peterson last week in Detroit MI, it was worth every penny. I felt like a child on Christmas enjoying the lecture with my wife. God Bless you for all you do, Dr. Peterson spoke highly of Joe Rogan as well! Was a true blessing
@micdrop1991 it was a blessing to be there, enjoy. You both will have a great time, Definitely can’t wait til he comes again!
My husband and I have tickets to see Dr. Peterson in Billings, MT in May and it's hard to wait!!! I'm glad to hear you enjoyed it...but then, it's Jordan, so how can the event be anything but amazing, right?!! 😁 He is a treasure!
He doesn't mince words, and people need that now more than ever.
Jordan Peterson is a very compassionate person who wants people to succeed as best they can. Yes, he may not be all cuddly but uses his intellect and speech. More people need to listen to this man.
*liberal rage*
Joe and Jordan. Thank you. This is the third or fourth time I've listened to this podcast and thank you. It's refreshing to hear real real dialog and hearing Dr. Jordan's critiques makes clarity out of fog. Thank you.
Hey Joe - I love you man; I've watched many of your interviews, and enjoyed every goddamned one I watched. But this one - this is the first one where I legitimately watched the whole thing end to end.
Major thumbs up to you, from someone who already liked you and appreciated what you do.
Please keep it up. Your efforts have not gone unnoticed, at least by this one dude commenting on KZclip.
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Should co out Elon Musk
The first time I came across Jordan Peterson I was looking up something to do with motherhood as I was trying to navigate through some difficult aspects of motherhood. I came across a video of him talking about women and men in terms of parenting and I think he was talking about how kids need the mom to be their primary attachment more than the dad and I can't remember what else he said but whatever it was it helped me at the time with struggles I was having with motherhood.
There was a mom group I was in on Facebook and someone posted with a struggle they were having and it related to the video. I shared it and explained that it helped me and seemed relevant to her situation too.
Then another mom commented and said "be careful. Jordan Peterson is a known misogynist. I wouldn't be looking into what he says too much." Or something along those lines. I replied that I had no idea who he was but I didn't get that at all from this particular clip and found what he said in it to be helpful so I still felt it was worth sharing and fine to share. The mom who originally posted also said that she didn't find it misogynistic at all and that it helped her and she appreciated the message.
Then I did more looking into him with the presupposition that he was a misogynist and keeping an eye out for that.
It's been probably 3 years now and I watch a lot of his videos and understand them from the level he is speaking at, not from what he is often misconstrued as saying. The Cathy Newman video was super uncomfortable to watch, the way she attacked him relentlessly but it was amazing how he kept his cool.
There are definitely some things that women have to go through that men can't fully understand the weight of, and I think that at times his delivery doesn't always portray that. But what he is seeing and trying to make a difference with is the things that men go through that women can't fully understand and that people dismiss or aren't even aware of at all. It's a very similar issue to racism in the sense that we can't just blame all white people for being the problem when most now are not contributing to the problem. But we do have to be aware and sensitive of the residual effects of past traumas and help and give space for the healing process. Without pushing white people down as oppressors. I've been hearing about young kids in schools being bullied just because they are white. And a mom who's son was experiencing this posted about her son dealing with racism and multiple people telling her that because her son is white then it isn't racism. The whole definition of racism is treating someone badly based on their race.
But it's the same thing between men and women, now that women are no longer being repressed as we were in past years, there is a huge hate on men being oppressors and wanting to tear down men. We feel the collective past pain from the trauma that some women experienced. There is no denying that it was more commonplace years ago to beat your wife and treat her like your property. But it isn't fair to blame and condemn men who have done none of this, simply because they are male. And completely ignore the very real challenges that men today are facing, because it doesn't fit with the man hate style feminism that is popular right now.
In some ways, it may be because he is trying to make a point against something that is seen as so concrete - the patriarchy - that he gets his back up and is more vehemently against it and doesn't mention any of the nuance where there have in the past been power struggles that caused many women to suffer, just the parts against it. (In lots if cases he does go into this, but in some he doesn't, especially when only clips are shown which in that case isnt his fault at all, just what others are showing of him). But it isn't quite as black and white as - women didn't have the right to vote because they didn't go to war. That is a fair point and absolutely women didn't have to do that which is a huge privilege, women dont want to do the dirty jobs mostly, there are tons of valid explanations he gives for the pay gap and voting and things like that. But there have definitely been ways where women were oppressed and treated as sub human. But again, not all men were acting that way and not all women were being treated that way universally.
That may be where he loses some people, because it may seem that he is saying that women have it great and there is no oppression, when he says there is no patriarchy. But to me it seems that his main goal a lot of the time when speaking about men and women is to speak to what isn't being said. What most people aren't hearing or thinking of. Everyone knows women have been through some hard shit and treated in degrading ways but it's not that we have had things worse than men across the board or that it was all women all the time. And talk of the patriarchy generally lends to thinking of a few white men with all the money controlling everyone, but also men in charge in every profession and controlling all positions of power.
What Jordan talks about with the statistics makes perfect sense and seems common sense. You pull someone off the street there is a certain percent chance they are stereotypical to their gender in terms of being more on the compassionate side or more on the analytical side, more chance on one side than the other but not a crazy amount. But you go to the top percent in each area and it will be overwhelmingly one gender occupying all the top spots. So it makes sense for men to gravitate towards certain jobs and women to gravitate towards others, and men to get paid more if they are working longer hours etc. Although it definitely hasn't always been that way either and in some places there ARE misogynist still treating women like they deserve less because of their gender.
I was actually listening to Oprah talking about it the other day. About how when she was a news anchor the man that did the exact same job as her, same hours and everything, was being paid more and she confronted her bosses and they laughed her off and said she shouldn't be paid the same as him because she's a single female. Then when she had her own show she had female producers and wanted to give them a raise because they were being underpaid for the position and their response was "why? They're just girls!"
It does happen, but not to the extent that todays feminists often make it seem.
Anyways. I am a huge fan of Jordan Peterson and I love listening to him talk. It's heartbreaking to see how he has been vilified and his sole motivation is to help people and make a difference with his time here and DESPITE depression and all the physical obstacles he has had to face and being constantly misrepresented and vilified and attacked he STILL shows up for us and sacrifices his peace in the hopes it will help more people to live a better life. He is an absolute legend and yes he has faults like anyone but he does his absolute best to be aware of them and to work on them and be better and better all the time. Some of the ways I've seen people try to attack him (like the Cathy Newman interview) leave me wondering like have they never watched anything he's ever said before? Have they only ever seen snippets of him out of context and been told other people's smeary opinions of what he's trying to say? Lol so many people are on a manhunt to catch him saying something reprehensible. And also seem completely taken aback at his propensity to maintain a level head and challenge their stance against him lol he is fascinating to watch in those situations. The more I watch him, the more I understand where he's coming from and appreciate his perspectives and information.
i've been listening to this podcast for over four years, and everytime it keep getting more and more thought-provoking and interesting.
Funny how it’s relevant now, four years later. About truth, and facts
Anytime Dr. Peterson is in a podcast i will always find the time to listen.
If given a choice of whom i could have a drink and some productive philosophical conversation with it would be these two individuals...they take an extremely objective approach to all thier discussions...they pursue resolutions to thier discussion topics even on subjects they dont totally agree on and they usually find them...i love these convos
Every Mother, Father, and young adult should listen with an open mind and heart! Thank you for the discussion very greatly appreciated
I love that you can see Jordan's passion. When he looks away and takes a sec he's holding back tears at times cause he really feels the point he's trying to express. I really feel that.
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the components under a patriarchy are not the patriarchy
if men control the most important components of a society then it's a patriarchy
hierarchies are only based on power because the company owner can hire people that have the skills needed to run the day to day operations
and elections are about whose most popular
not who has the most knowledge
Peterson's position on the cake baker and discriminating against blacks are inconsistent
Joe missed an opportunity to revisit that question
now that he has had time to think about it
@o m he also read his book he clearly stated so maybe he got his view from the book and not this interview
I don't think I've ever listened to a 3 hour podcast in one sitting. I can listen to another 3 hours of this. Absolutely amazing conversation
The incremental improvement is something I learned from a decade of parkour, and it seems like Joe learned it from fighting. I forget that some people haven't learned that lesson, so it always shocks me when people self defeat and give up for not being the best at something their first time trying it
i was deep asleep and this podcast was on. i thought i was in a dream but i could hear and pickup every word like he was speaking to me. i cried in my sleep i had that "moment" when the tv or video was talking at me directly. this is no coincidence.. everything he said about being in a dark place and cleaning up etc i have been and still am for 5 years now. cant believe this was 4 years ago. 😞 thankful to have come across this
I think I can tell you why you're so popular, Mr. Peterson: it's because you're honest, you tell the truth, and you don't back down just because you're challenged. Even more so, you are someone who has synthesized what we all see and know but are unable, ourselves, to put it all together - and you have the ability for communicating it. You connect those dots that we're all seeing but don't have the ability, either in time or information, to form the picture. That is true brilliance, and it can be applied to every person who we call brilliant, no matter the venue.
Absolutely 💯🎯
Was lucky enough to see this JRE, & the one with Jordan & Bret Weinstein, the first time around and it was truly a privilege to finally hear so many of my own uncondensed thoughts and feelings about the world articulated by such a wonderful speaker. We each of us lost our direction, our hope, and self-belief.....but at least partly, had it returned to us by Jordan being direct & honest, and not dumbing it down! A great few hours to relive! Enjoy!
Even though Joe doesn't say much during his interviews with Jordan Peterson, the sheer amount of respect he holds for JP is so palpable and so genuine, that even though Joe isn't "participating", he is. As an avid listener of Joe's podcasts, I just love when him and Jordan get together because Joe is the most perfect and engaged listener - he knows exactly the right moments to interject, to share relevant anecdotes and to ask questions. He not only allows Jordan to think out loud, but his insightful commentary without ever really interrupting really encourages JP to be his true self. Jordan, IMO, is always at his best during his conversations with Joe, and that says so much more about Joe than I think he gets credited for. Such an engaging podcast! You learn how to think from Jordan, and how to behave from Joe. Love them both.
Lauren Hansen best comment ever ! Thank you 🙏
Ghryst VanGhod Hey, I understand what you're saying - perhaps to the less informed listener (not necessarily yourself) this interview doesn't exactly present a lot of 'challenges' to JP, so in that sense I can agree that it's not 'furthering' the conversation. As an avid JP fan, my comment was more so in reference to Joe's willingness to *listen* - a very rare occurrence with Peterson. His thoughts, opinions and ideas are not easily digestible - he's an academic, so it takes him quite some time to put into words what he's thinking, and it takes the listener an even more significant amount of time to work through what he's presented. There's a lot of complexities going on behind a lot of what he says, and due to persistent interjections by less-engaged listeners, much of JP's time in interviews is spent deflecting straw man arguments. I like that Joe gives him to the opportunity to really just let it all out. I guess the way I think about it is, most interviews or clips people watch of Jordan are equivalent to reading the abstract of an academic paper; Joe's podcast is like reading the paper itself.
Jake Brill omg totally. I like that Joe feels comfortable questioning him (which he does tend to do with a lot of 'controversial' his guests). In some sense he challenges them, but it's fuelled less by the need to discredit the other's point and more so about searching for an underlying common ground. Maybe I'm giving him too much credit, it's just that we don't see this type of welcomed discussion with JP very often. His way of thinking is so convoluted that it takes time and effort for him to really get out what he's trying to say, and I guess I appreciate the platform Joe gives him to do that.
I also love that Joe is willing to question someone like Peterson. The whole enforced monogamy thing was a super complicated topic that needed some explaining and Joe is the perfect guy to hunt for some answers. Love to both of these guys.
What Dr Peterson says at approx. 2:27:25, sums up, (in my opinion), the absolute reason why this podcast is so popular. Keep up the good work, Joe and team! Also, Joe is a mixture of all the really cool and positive, fun men surrounding in my life (father, brothers, husband, friends, associates, coworkers. etc.), that I look up to and have a great time enjoying good conversation. Dr Peterson, you are speaking the absolute truth. Please don't stop. More people need to hear you. God bless.
I think what makes jp such a good figure to listen to, is because he looks deep into situations, what action, lead to this action that ultimately lead to the situation that we're in now, and this is how we really need to look at things, its common sense man
Hearing prepared people talk about things like this makes me sleep in peace at night. Its very important to notice that even if we are looking at two human beings, mortal individuals. They keep such a neutral attitude towards the reality of the objective situation. Things are what they are and of course they can be changed and improved, but not only by complaint but by analysis and rehearsal of new tools and strategies. I have always felt deep inside me and understood every single word they talked about during these 3 hours, even as a kid. And for some reason i believe if every single one of us tries our best to grasp these objective facts, we would all agree on their core truth. A very simple but real situation is when at point 38:30 Joe gives the example of his daughters soccer game, and explains how hard it is to make the point of earning something that falls into a subjective competitive and meritocratic, where as he puts it in very clear words. It feels bad or heavy when we don't get what we want or think we deserve, and how if it didn't it wouldn't be possible to feel good when you do win, when you do score, when you are rewarded for you effort and dedication. Great job! Great podcast! Great research and most of all, great courage to put it out here for all of us to digest.
Crazy to see how prophetic this discussion was.
This talk is amazing!! Thanks for sharing, the passion you have at some point talking is really incredible engaging congrats 👌👌👏
Since discovering Jordan Peterson online and watching his videos, I got myself out of dead end retail work and into IT. I enjoy my work, I'm studying a lot to get qualified to move up in my new career, passed my driving test and I'm on the road. Im 29. Should not have taken me this long.
Getting your act together and throwing some effort into the world is incredibly rewarding. Not just my professional life, but my personal life too. Just gotta tidy my room now...
Well done, to everyone wanting to better themselves. At least you took action and make it happen. I respect anyone who can say I'm not happy doing this work, and they're able to say "I can't see myself doing that for another 30 years, so well done.
When we're caught up in something we're not able to be objective, but standing on the outside looking in, the bigger picture emerges.
@Luna Youre right 😂😂😂 Guess what, Luna… Youre Wrong 😅😅😂😂
@Eric Barnes seeing this 3 years later hope you doing good bro
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Same boat. 29, about to be 30. Dropped out of college and worked various dead end job. Now I'm studying programming to get into a coding bootcamp with all the stimulus money I pocketed during quarantine.
Jordan's mind is so great not to mention his humility and love for humanity and great understanding of how law has no business in decisions pertaining to how people communicate and how they perceive others.
I am grateful to my core to have this powerful content at the tip of my fingers at the point in my life when I can fully receive it. Imagine the master level soul grow these two men earned in this lifetime for affecting so many lives. Thank you Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson for sharing your brilliance with the humanity!
Crazy isn't it. Switched off social media , only use the internet for business and this stuff
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Hearing this story for the second time and it's still amazing to hear... Crazy that Jordan your daughter has the same thing mine does she is 22 so it carried into adulthood trying to fight insurance to pay for her medication which is called a biologic she was on methotrexate and solumedrol and prednisone and eye drops and remicaid and humira now going to try cimzia its so hard to watch her struggle I have to look into this carnivore diet for her she is a young mom so needs to be chasing babies so hoping this will help her but I'm going to try to look into this carnivore diet
What is the issue she has?
I could listen to these two for hours....absolutely refreshing and grounding 🙏🏼
This dude. He has a legit story to tell. I feel your pain.
"The only thing that's worse than the pain of inequality is the pain of forced equality." Jordan Peterson.
@trollnerd it's not equality of outcome bc not everybody gets a mate and you choose your mate. This isn't related to law or anything to do with it. This is deeper than that. You're grasping at straws. It's equal opportunity.
Apples to oranges definitely!! Slavery=inequality in many levels. The only "forced equality equasl to slavery would be slavery it self. Which is an inequality not an equality.
@Duke The mental gymnastics that you JP cultists do to make the things he says make sense are insane. Its seriously equivalent to the lengths that Christian apologists go to when proving the bible is fact. Face facts: enforced monogamy is equality of outcome. No matter what efforts you put in or natural talents you possess, the outcome is one woman per man. That's equality of outcome. You just need to accept that JPs arguments are wildly inconsistent. This is the problem with making blanket statements like "all equality of outcome is bad". Not all equality of outcome is bad. I'm not faulting Peterson necessarily for advocating equality of outcome, I'm faulting him for being an inconsistent hypocrite.
@Duke every time you think - you weaken our nation. #MAGA
Dr. JP has completely changed my life and I've never even met the great man.
Thank you guys. So happy for you Jordan and your family of course.
1:05:36 - this is very real. Almost every destructive "sentence/word" posted here by Mr. Jordan Peterson brought me into these "dark times" of my existence. His lectures and videos where he talks about the purpose of life etc really work. Imo just cracked the code for living in harmony with yourself. I'm really grateful that I somehow managed to come across videos of him on the internet because I can't imagine (scary thoughts haunted me for a very long time) where I would be right now. IF I saw him across the street - I would HUG him VERY TIGHT. In a way, he saved me from myself
The guy is basically a historical figure at this point.
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All that talk about low IQ being a predicter for poverty but ask him to connect the dots in
regards to race and watch him act confused as to why you would ask him that.
This man is the biggest gift to humanity in a millennia
He’s kind of starting to get weird nowadays though.
So impressed with Joe being able to draw out and roll with this in depth conversation of our human psyche. Have to say, it's hard to watch and follow it all, in one sitting, so don't. I'll be coming back to it a number of times. on a side note, Watched a movie with Dad, THX 1138, this podcast is the day after lol. 1139.
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I know Dr Peterson doesn’t want to be viewed as a hero because he’s a humble man. However I can’t help but see him as a hero, I get emotional seeing how happy (genuinely happy) he is when talking about people he’s helped. What an absolute diamond of a man, I’m sure he’s done things privately in his life that make imperfect but overall what a brilliant and kind man.
Peterson is my hero too.. I want to be as good as a man as he
He would be happy that you think he’s a hero. Because he would say you’re looking up. And then he would tell you a story about it that you probably couldn’t imagine till he told you.
It's not wise to seek perfection in anything because it doesn't exist, it's better to identify rather than compare.
Im gonna fill a whole note book from these two podcasts, No one to talk to spend so much time alone taking notes and learning so one day i can be where i want to. I really love the advice thank you so much! glad I waited to start watching these. Im gonna learn so much from you joe Thank you, Thank you both!
This episode - hands down my all time favorite. Joe Rohan and Jordan Peterson are my favorite two people to listen to no matter what it is about. I learn so much anytime I listen to either one of them. The both of them are super intelligent human beings and I can say that I am grateful for being alive at the same time they are.
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Thank you for having him on to share this crucial information
I have watched this podcast probably 5 or 10 times ... Who knows... I've watched thousands of hours of Peterson's maps of meaning and personality lectures.... I may have watched more Jordan Peterson content than anyone on the planet... ( That's way too much by the way... Lol) but I still start crying every time I start reading the comments of the videos... Because so many people have dug themselves out of holes even deeper than the one I'm in after learning the priceless information Peterson conveys. But I still can't climb out of my own hole... I've just decided to quit my job as a construction supervisor and go back to college at age 33... I had to use alot of drugs to climb to the position I had in construction.... 84 hour work weeks for 5 months out of the year required lots of uppers for me... But I'm about to start from scratch and I'm only a few weeks sober... I already failed at college once straight out of high school...
I can hear the correct advice from Peterson echoing in my head as I type this ... But that's been the case since 2016 when I first discovered him .... I just don't know why it's taking me so long to start improving when I began this journey 6 years ago... And I've really been fighting addiction for 15 years... But I will not give up and take my life .. I'm aiming high and continue to get out of bed most mornings... I just hope I see some positive results soon... I'm exhausted...
@blameKS913 yeah... So what?
You did not HAVE to do drugs. You chose to.
I cry every single time I read the comments too! Not because i'm sad but because i'm happy and incredibly moved...Especially by the stories from people who have really fucked up their lives and thru JP and sheer TRIUMPH of the WILL they have gotten back onto the right path and went onto become happy successful people who are thriving in life. Just KEEP GOING BRO. U and I both know that the HARD FAUGHT WINS are the only ones that leave u with that everlasting feeling of pride in chest.
Your earnest and honest intellectual rigour is incredibly precious, Mr Peterson.Thank you sincerely .I trust you are changing our world significantly and positively. Stay well.
Thumbs up if Jordan Peterson's improved your life
@Fanofjambi iiii😅😅
@Fanofjambi just
He cries too much
Was noticing all the things Peterson said about Joe as an interviewer. I'm brand new to his channel, and have been enjoying this interview tremendously. Being a bit of an analyst myself, I tried to figure out what it was about Joe that made him so good, and came to the same conclusions as Peterson, especially that Joe follows up on things he doesn't understand. It's a superlative quality in an interviewer. He also lets his guests talk to complete their point without interruption. 👍
I also tuned into Rogan only recently when they tried to cancel him. He is immensely engaging, and like you I was really curious as to why he has such a mass appeal. Yes, JP's spin on Rogan was great:)
I've watched this many times and every time Rule 4 comes up it reminds me of what my grandfather said personally to me knowing how depressed I am. I wrestle with it in my head all the time. He said "I understand the power of stagnation you're suffering. Funny thing about the fog depression puts you in *haha*, you forget.... Imagine if you were as you are now and didn't feel this way... What a waste right?"
Knowing you're capable will propel you to greatness. Depression is the catalyst of true growth.
I cant shake that saying years later.
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I will personally say that Jordan Peterson is a genius I haven't always felt this way till I decided to open my mind and look at what he means. One thing that really hits home is start small and build up this may sound silly but I've decided for the last month to stop eating processed foods and limit how much i eat, also pick up my area and rely on being more independent. Yes small goals but I suffer from depression and bipolar/PTSD. I will personally say I'm supposed to be on alot of psych meds not on them now however just doing these small goals has made me feel a lot more confident and proud of myself. I haven't had any depressive episodes this last 3 weeks and only small mood fluctuations.
Thank you JRE and crew for keeping the JP and Randall Carlson/Graham Hancock podcasts up on KZclip!
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Utterly facsinating interview!! You two gentlemen are phenomenal!!
"The more responsibility you take the more meaning you have, And that's the antidote to the catastrophe of life"
-Jordan B Peterson
@DUC3 you must be 12... It’s taken that way because reality is different and often times additional responsibilities are not so easy to be taken and sacristy lead to more stress. You are either 12 or born into a rich household and therefore didnt experience this. The fact that you end with “undeserving of happiness and weak” just tells me enough about the type of person you are…
I think this quote can be used in many context and so when taken out of context it sounds as if he's saying the solution to your problems is to be stressed. However, that would be a simple minded way to interpret it. Anyone with any base logic would take this as meaning "The more you take on responsibilities, the better you're going to feel about yourself as you maintain said responsibilities because you'll feel more accomplished and like you have more of a life and those with meaning to life have better life quality than those who lack responsibility and do nothing with themselves" but, I mean, to each their own. In my personal opinion, if living life with as much responsibility as required to maintain a higher quality of life is too much responsibility for your taste, you're not deserving of happiness and you're weak.
@Collin Im Not sure I get what you're saying, I might be a bit too old for the emoji thing
I think the push from spoken word comes from being able to hear a persons tone, cadence, emotion, ect, vs when reading there isnt a clear idicator. Its way more impactful. Ive learned just as much listening to guys like Peterson and Joe on the Internet in the past 5 years than i did in my whole career in school
I love no interruptions. Just being able to listen and not reach for the pass , so I could just listen and close my eyes and get comfortable. Thank you so much.
I wish I listened to this 4 years ago. The idea of transcending oneself to become a better person is such valuable advice. It took me 3 days to get the motivation to mow my massive backyard. I've just been too tired, too willfully lazy, etc. After I finished it, I couldn't really explain why it felt so good to get it done other than crossing another chore off my list.
But really it's because this time last year, I was suicidal in a horribly abusive relationship and spending most of my time in the hospital because of chronic illness.
But today I'm not in constant pain, I dumped the abusive loser, and my lawn is absolutely beautiful ❤️
Thanks for this podcast guys
I fell almost under the mower while mowing my backyard. Two acre yard and I went for a while without mowing it after that. It grew up and I'll be danged if when my father-in-law and good friend Tim came over with his riding lawnmower and mowed it if we didn't find a bed of grass that had been layed on by a bear. Glad I didn't find him when trying to mow that stuff. Still whenever I get my trash to the dump or mow that lawn, as a disabled person who too is lazy for dayz, it gives me great satisfaction. :)
Wow
Congratulations and props
Amazing 😻
Jordan is an extraordinary man. Thank you for sharing him with us
I will never understand how/why anyone would dislike, let alone hate, Jordan Peterson. I can't think of a single person in modern society that has put forth as much interest and effort into helping and improving society as a whole as Dr. Peterson has. He is remarkably intelligent and compassionate and frankly if even a small percentage of the world thought and acted in the way that he does, we would all be living in a much better and happier world. I'd love nothing more than to shake this man's hand one day and thank him for all the good he has introduced into the world.
@Spartan Bruhaha You’re acting like a child at this point. Keep on entertaining me lil buddy.
@SchftyP By your logic, everyone with a higher education than us should agree. I mean, they're smarter, right? Go listen to the opinions of some highly educated people on the topic of Jordan Peterson...and remember, if they've had a better education than you or me then they have to be right, right?
@Jim Smith You think that what the majority of people do is more important than what is morally correct...and I'm the one who's lost? Yikes, buddy.
I'm up to 45 minutes and so far, this has been Peterson's most concise explanation of hierarchy in years. Free markets, games, the left-right spectrum, temperament, motivation.
I agree, I've listed to hours and hours of Peterson and this was one of his best moments
And it was still garbage
Thought the same thing!
Jordan is always learning and refining his ideas every time he grapples with these concepts. It's very much a different mindset from the intellectual debates years ago which were little more than "I *know* god doesn't exist" vs "I *know* god exists", and it's a breath of fresh air for anyone who not only wants to grapple with an idea, but to see it grow.
Marty Mcfly 88MPH i think because you are hearing some ideas again and they are starting to stick.
Wow! How did I not see this until today? For being 4 years old it feels as though you are talking about what is currently happening! I am so thankful you stepped up!
Jordan got emotional ALOT talking about his lectures and little Tours that he's doing SO WELL, it really seems that his emotion is ultimately derived from the self realization that he Truly DOES have a sense of purpose, he DOES have a message worth hearing, and he IS of Great Value to people all over the country, and likely all over the Globe. He is an intelligent and empathetic man, and seeing him become emotional at the mere THOUGHT of his WORTH to mankind, is honestly Humbling, and beautiful. Jordan is a GOOD man, who had seemingly nothing to gain for standing up with the messages he DID come out with, yet he did it none the less, and found Personal Fulfillment in it, as well as a sense of almost divine purpose, and Im so GD happy to see, in the end there was SO MUCH for Jordan to Gain by doing and saying the things he says and does... If ANYONE on this planet fucking deserves that purpose, fulfillment, and recognition, and Monetary gain for standing up and making his voice heard... Its Jordan Peterson.
Top man Jordan if we had more people like him the world 🌎 would be a better place
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This guy is really good to have around in this current age i have no idea why people hate him hes right
not a usual interview main stream news! no agenda driven questions. a great source of information, that is a pleasure to view. no wonder why you are leading the industry. keep up the good work.
Joe Rogan and Peterson are such a great combination. Jordan Communicates these incredible ideas, while Joe is able to translate them into digestible nuggets of wisdom
I feel like Joe is the semi smart friend you tag along with cause they can keep up with the intellectuals in way that allows us pleebs to soak up all the wisdom without looking a fool.
This is the perfect discription of their combination
I hope one day I can be one of the random people that see's Jordan on the street and can tell him how he's improved my life.
The fight for good that this man is leading is astounding. I am so thankful that people like Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan exist, that it often moves me to tears.
I thank you deeply, true gentlemen that you are.
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I agree. Neither of them are even remotely cocky or arrogant and both are quick to admit when they're wrong. I mean, for 2023 that is amazing.
at about an hour Peterson is cracking me up so much. Speaking of character I love it when he shows his. It's humorous and sensible at the same time.
Jordan is a jewel. Something for everyone.......no matter who you are or where you come from. While here on earth, a gift he is.
No matter how many times I watch these two in a discussion, I always have a mental take away, in a good way. 4 years later I respect Dr Peterson more and more, and of course Joe! Dr Peterson gets a lot of disrespect from those who know he's right and their ideology contradicts his but he's so on point. I just hope he knows that he helps more people than is "offended" by his logic. Thank you both for changing so many. And bless all you for listening and expressing appreciation! Your stories and your lives are important and extremely helpful to others as well! 🙏💞💞🙏😉
41:50, this life advice from JP killed it. How to teach your kid the MEANING behind why it's not whether you win or lose but how you play the game. Amazing.
I agree wholeheartedly. What a great thought! Explaining why winning and losing isn’t the most important part of sports is so difficult. I was raised to always do your best to win the game. I wish someone would have made it clear to my younger self that the series of games is far more important than the individual.
Dude its wrong, they dont know what they re talking about in terms of coaching sport. check out my comment above, its more nuanced than that, you do not try and teach meaning overtly but have the class scaled and translated to their abilities across all areas. If you try and teach meaning, like being nice to others, overtly, you have them thinking about that instead of how to play the sport, and you may aswell be in church. You want to use their love of the game to impart meaning through play with others. Make a game from that sport that involves sharing, working together, doing things for others, that encourages being nice and sharing and then repeat until they do it naturally. over time adding these principles into other activities and using that game as a reminder will make it easier to apply and be more intrinsic for them. IF you make games that are always 'you race against him, or blue team vs white team, then you ll eventually get a super competitive team, and if your team is waining in competitiveness, for example, add some competition to your sessions. Whenever you try to force meaning onto a class you lose the kids and its hard to get them back, the only time its more likely to work is in the dressing room or before you kick a ball but if you dont have time for that you need to create games that have meaning embedded within it for the results you want to get. If you want to be a sports coach and you have high personal ideals for your kids, then be careful what drills you choose as it will dictate what the players think and feel like on and off the court. Remember what being picked last was like, or losing, or making a mistake, I m not saying get rid of that but scale it down to their age so that its not AS traumatic and increase the level of trauma they can handle as they get older. If you have a kid exposed to too much trauma early they will either have dramatic responses to stress when they get older or hide away from the game completely due to subconscious stresses related to that sport, sports in general, or general team work and society. I think a lot of people fall into that category because of the hamfisted way sports were taught in the past, we arent training for battle anymore, they have robots for that shit, these are kids that want to have fun and be with friends.
But when enough time passes, you are eventually forgotten. Solomon knew this if you read Ecclesiastes. Even if you become the greatest person in the world at one point, with enough time, you become forgotten and your existence is completely doubted with enough passage of time.
Error Eliminator no. Negative nancy
.. I learned that from my 4th grade wrestling coach and my mom before that at age 4.. better to lose and give 100% then win and give 50%...
Mr. Peterson keeps saving my life. Every time things get tough, I come back to this episode and it enables me to see things clear again.
@Michael Reay the components under a patriarchy are not the patriarchy
if men control the most important components of a society then it's a patriarchy
hierarchies are only based on power because the company owner can hire people that have the skills needed to run the day to day operations
and elections are about whose most popular
not who has the most knowledge
@Michael Reay has anyone seen the milking tweet?
@Michael Reay Peterson's position on the cake baker and discriminating against blacks are inconsistent
Joe missed an opportunity to revisit that question
now that he has had time to think about it
@lyviadiaz one day at a time. Small achievable goals
@Asmita It’s the little things, man. The daily stuff we, well I, tend to keep messing up and forgetting about.
Am so glad that I started listening to your podcast. Amazing content am hooked..
This is the one man I want to meet and have a conversation with. I feel like he would be the one person to listen and truly give sound advice. He is inspiring and straight forward. So much respect for this man
This is my fourth time listening to each of both Peterson’s interventions on your podcast! I could listen to him for hours, days, months, years! Smart and wise man! Everytime I listen to it I keep learning more about myself, society, humans, life, death, everything! And you Joe, are also a great host !!! Thanks for your work guys! 🙏
(I’m French btw)
Yikes mate
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This guy is brilliant! Period! 💯
Jordan Peterson is the greatest dad I've ever had
What about God?
Jocko?
I was thankful to have a father until 22, but after that, the need to continue to seek wisdom lives. Another great father financially is Dave Ramsey, imagine a financial Peterson.
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Listened to this a dozen times and still blows my mind 😊
Must have been really refreshing to Dr. Petersen when he was on a show and the person opposite him didn't constantly interrupt him and actually contributed to the conversation.
He helped me more than just about anyone ever
Thank you... sorry for the short message but I've not got the vocabulary to express myself, I'm fighting to better my life and you are a integral part of the process. God bless you always.
Jordan is a good person…he might not say things people don’t want to hear, but he’s a solid person.
The man just saved the world
We owe him a great debt
man it seems that alot dont understand how many minds this man has changed for the better... bringing people back from a very dark place! saving lives!! The TRUTH IS TRUTH. Helping people to understand who they are again and solve things that they have never understood.. Think and listen carefully to what he says it honestly helps!
I also have a theory that the reason you become more sensitive to changes in diet the more extreme your diet is, its because your stomach prepares a special balance of acids to optimally process these nutrients. I believe jordan and his daughter struggle to process certain nutrients, and thus need an extreme diet where they're guts can adapt to the things it can process, basically mid maxing his gut adaptation
These videos pop up and start playing where they left off, and i get taken in by how profound some of the things he says are. good stuff.
I’m up late as hell watching this and what a great show. Love the diet section. You guys rock.
I have started to make it a point to watch this episode at least once a year or even more if I find myself struggling mentally. It seems to magically center my thinking every time I watch it.
I do that too
it's due time soon
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Just ran across your comment. Hope you're doing well bud.
As a 40 yr old man it's so awesome having these 2 men as "mentors" and educators.
@Thomas Andersen the main thing I noticed about both men is they never talk over anyone. They have what is called a "conversation", instead of just waiting for their turn to speak. They both try to address problems from a positive and compassionate POV and even offer solutions.
Same here.
as a 25 yr old young man i feel blessed, peterson gave me a sence of direction again. And to take action.
33yo, same!
what an enjoyable conversation! I wish we could have more of that in today's world.
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My biggest problem with challenging my intellectual side is not being able to sit down with a book and read in peace, these conversations matter to me
I put this on before bed and literally had Jordan Peerson doing a speech in my dream it was a cool dream I remember 1 part where he said, the only thing that matters for you is that you do it
One of the few benefits of current technology. Great debate and conversation. I don’t feel alone anymore - you realise there are many other like minded people.
This man has changed my life I was an addict I started listening to his seminars I got myself off pills started going to school for my CDL license It took two years I failed alot but I stuck with it I own my own home I'm about to get married and start a family I plan to teach my son or daughter the same values he taught me
the components under a patriarchy are not the patriarchy
if men control the most important components of a society then it's a patriarchy
hierarchies are only based on power because the company owner can hire people that have the skills needed to run the day to day operations
and elections are about whose most popular
not who has the most knowledge
Peterson's position on the cake baker and discriminating against blacks are inconsistent
Joe missed an opportunity to revisit that question
now that he has had time to think about it
Hey mate congrats on your sobriety, it's one of the hardest things to do so it's huge that you've accomplished that.
What gender was your child? Congrats on that as well :) It'll be great motivation to stay strong and sober as well.
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I wish i would have heard of Dr. Peterson before now, four years ago. Im so glad hes coming to the forefront now, its incredible to listen to him speak on anything. He is helping so many people by lifting them up, giving courage, giving advice and understanding. Thank you! And thanks to Joe for being a wise man as well💯
Mr. Peterson is one of the most important people of our time. I would be as bold enough to say that he is the modern day version (probably better than) Plato !
I thank every day this man raises consciousness in this world.
Much love from all of us Mr Jordan Peterson.
I want to say thanks for this discussion, I have been self assessing weekly, and I am further than I was 3 months ago ,keeping discipline to create motivation.
@Timothy Otoole every day is a test
@Thomas Beaumont it's a constant struggle, .I keep pushing myself.
How's it going
This is the fourth time I am watching this! This guy is a Gem! Really is!