It's a small scene , but I love when Gomez is hitting golf balls and Morticia is watching him ; not because he asked her to , not to placate him , but because she genuinely enjoys watching her Man engaging in an activity that he enjoys - in essence , it makes her happy to see him being happy 💕
I also really like how, when the family is kicked out of their home and Gomez becomes completely depressed, Morticia is not disappointed in him that he is momentarily unable to care for his family, instead she tries to take on a job and give him some space and when things don't improve, she doesn't expect Gomez to 'man up' and get the house back, she tries to plea with Fester herself
@Kennedy Crandall hmmm... i think it depends on the paint quality, not color. or brands, maybe, because vanta black is definitively out of this artist's pricing, and the types vary in price as well, as if it's synthetic color, or, from natural dies.... 🤔 interior paints are generally latex based any more
The line, specifically states pastelles. And the set looked horrendous. Morticia says she can look past the treachery, and manipulation, and even ripping Fester away.
@Yvonne Thompson it was the execution of said pastels. Debbie used baby pink for evil and that’s ok but the bar scene, the anniversary gift/bomb… ugh it’s the wasted potential for me. She could’ve been an iconic Aadams but she just missed the mark by not being about the family, for shame… SHAME!!!
The Addams family: Happily-married, faithful parents; parents who support their children's interests; intergenerational household without resentment; treats employees like family; happy extended family; kids who play together (more or less) constructively . . . I think this might literally be the most functional fictional family I've ever seen in a movie.
@Jazzy Waffles Having never seen the old tv show or read the comics... That sounds like an INCREDIBLY Gomez thing to do. "What? Lower taxes? Not if I have anything to say about that!" *Runs for office to fix that shit*
@Allani A'Dall It is actually. The Christians adopted the pagan Yule celebrations and kept a few pagan items but did basically a rebranding. But the tree is pagan. That's why it's way off from the calculated death of Christ the time came from Yule.
One small detail I like is how when the grandma is suggesting what might be troubling gomez and suggests "adultery?" Morticia responds "oh, no" the way she says it she knows that definitely isn't it she knows their relationship is too solid for that to even be a possibility
I agree. You can tell by the way your spouse treats you if they love you are not. And it's not by buying stuff for you, but rather doing things for you, being there for you, prioritizing the family. Just a quick call away etc. It would be a GREAT GIFT to have a relationship like Morticia and Gomez.
I think one thing you notice about the Addams Family is that they make one important distinction. They seem to enjoy physical pain, and have no qualms about causing bodily harm to one another. But they never cause each other *emotional* pain, they are very loving and supportive of one another, never talk down to or belittle each other. I believe the Addames are very well aware of the distinction between these two kinds of pain.
@BTSARMYFOREVER Again, I'm not saying that my mother was in the wrong for protecting me but I do feel she was wrong for the extent she went to to keep me "safe". My mother was very overprotective and didn't allow me to do the normal things a child should do growing up. Learning to swim, learning to ride a bike, learning to drive, getting her first kiss, going out at night with friends, dating, etc. All of these things i didn't get to experience growing up. I didn't get to experience them my mother finally died when i was in my 20s. At some point a parent really needs to learn to let go and allow their child to grow up, take chances and decide their own lives. And my mom just couldn't do that. I understand that she wanted to protect me but you have to let your kids live. And yeah, that sometimes means they're going to get hurt but it's better than keeping them ignorant of the world till they're forced into it and reality shows them how unprepared they were. A little pain in childhood saves a lot of pain as an adult
@Glenn Griffon It depends on the situation. Sometimes it's best to err on the side of caution. Not all moments can be perfect. It's alright to create new memories. She did her job as a parent.
Very good point. I feel like that's yet another way the Addams family is the polar opposite of the typical American family. Not causing physical harm doesn't mean people couldn't be savages and cause great harm to each others.
even though they still do stuff like play with guns and dynamite in the old black and white show, they made it clear they never physically discipline their kids and even in an episode where Morticia and Gomez thought each other were cheating, Morticia refused to use violence even tho Thing suggested it and they just wanted each other to be happy even if it was with someone else. Uncle Fester on the other hand would gladly use violence on whoever 👍
Same! As part of my formative years, this was probably the only couple that actually looked happy. Everyone else looked "proper" but not that they really liked one another
4:37 Shared love maps 7:03 Nurture your fondness and admiration 9:38 Turn towards each other 12:33 Letting your partner influence you 15:35 Solve your solvable problems 18:29 Overcoming gridlock by seeking outside help 21:55 Create shared meaning
Thank you! Everyone in the comments is going on about their personal shit, and projecting whatever issues they have. Instead of point out what he says and the reason their relationship works!
My parents acted not entirely dissimilar to Gomez and Morticia and both often joked that our family was just like theirs. I grew up with the assumption that *this was* how people in love behaved. I was really thrown for a loop when I got older and encountered the "partners that hate each other" trope.
@Pokaay my parents love each other but my ex husband was verbally and mentally abusive towards my son and me to some extent. I didn’t want my son to think that’s how marriages or families are. You are correct in having healthy standards. Don’t settle. Life feels long and tedious if you do.
@Pokaay exactly. Don't settle for less. I say, it's totally fine to have high expectations because in a way you're also setting boundaries from bullshit you shouldn't tolerate in unhealthy relationships. Like you, I'd rather be single than be with someone who treats me less than I deserve.
@Erin Bathie-Moore like seriously. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a relationship where both parties loved the other healthily to the point that it sounds like a fantasy. It would help me see people in better light.
That’s crazy to me. My parents aren’t divorced but their only reason for not being so is for me and my sibling to have two parents in one household. Which I’m grateful for, but it’s strange. Neither of them believe in being able to find a relationship wherein both parties love each other for as long as they’re together. Whenever I talk about wanting to find a partner that respects me and to have a happy relationship with them they tell me not to have high expectations for it. I would much rather be single than find myself in a relationship akin to theirs, or worse. It’s not entirely loveless, but it’s definitely not happy. I always wonder what it would’ve been like to grow up with parents that actually loved each other, healthily. I feel happy for the children that do. Morticia and gomez is such a fun dynamic to watch. I love the Addams family (not so much the animated ver.). I really think we need to see more relationships like theirs in media. Dysfunctional families aren’t the only way to derive conflict.
In my marriage, I'm definitely the Gomez. Even after 14 years, I hit on my husband constantly and he acts like he thinks I'm being ridiculous but I can tell by his little smile that he secretly loves it. My husband is a very handsome man, but he was a chubby kid most of his young life and I think he has a hard time with still seeing the chubby kid when he looks in the mirror so I always want to build him up and make him feel good about himself. I literally bought a letter board to set by his desk so I can always leave him a cheesy pick up line (currently it says "If you were a flower, you'd be a dammmndelion" lol). I just enjoy making him smile and making it where he'll never feel unloved.
@Asha Vere I was once with my ex bf and felt conscious about my belly, and he noticed that and put his hand around my belly, and said 'this is such a tiny belly, it isn't even big enough for belly dancing!' Then he rubbed his own tummy saying 'Now THIS is a belly for bellydancing!' I found that super cute and started laughing and immediately felt better about myself.
Instead of a remake they should have made a prequel of Mortica and Gomez’ relationship. A dark, adventure romp. A hilarious romantic comedy. I’d have watched the hell out of that.
How To Genshin I love the casting of Wednesday Addams but Morticia and Gomez were such a disappointment for me- *zero* chemistry compared to this relationship. Raul Julia will *always* be the quintessential Gomez and Anjelica Houston has SO much elegance and style, as well as sultry passion. The new pairing was the total opposite, unfortunately.
Fun Fact: the Addams Family was designed to be the exact opposite of a normal family. The reason they are a happy couple is because the author thought normal families were not happy.
The article I read is that he wrote it as a counter to the "normal family" as depicted in media. Parents hating their kids, "the old ball and chain," the horrible mother in law, the drive to fit in, to "keep up with the Jonses," putting appearances above all else. So, the Addams became super healthy, loving, and proudly weird.
It's the difference between neurotypical and neurodivergent. Neurodivergent people may be odd, but happy in their own world of oddness. And neurotypical people hate seeing someone okay with not playing the role society wants to force on them, so they try to beat down the neurodivergent person. It took me 36 years to not hate my brain and how it works as a female on the autism spectrum (level 1) and ADHD Inattentive Presenting Moderate. Now I feel like I have a super power to cut through the BS neurotypical people hide behind.
One of my favorite moments from the classic series is when Gomez spends about five minutes on the show trying to figure out how Houdini got out of a straight jacket. But the minute Morticia said something in French, Gomez was out of that straight jacket in less than ten seconds! 😂
Plus, Gomez and Morticia were amazing parents! They loved their children unconditionally and supported their interests and desires even if they didn’t always understand them. In the original series, there’s an episode where Pugsley wants to be a boy scout and while Gomez and Morticia are freaked out by this, they still support him because they love him. Likewise, when they’re told that their kids want to go to summer camp, they support that.
My girlfriend and I before we even started dating, before we told each other our feelings (before I even realized I had feelings). One of our mutual joked how compatible we were and we were playing into the Morticia and Gomez dynamic and I quoted Gomez to her and I just remember her gasping and saying, "I get to be morticia?" And I was like, "of course!" Needless to say I'm marrying her
Snap her up! When someone gets your references and humor without explanation, that is a major part of a partnership. One major reason my husband and I got married.
16:58 I think it’s a very small moment, but I always smile when “Dr. Pinderschloss” asks if Gomez has heard of displacement, and he says no and turns to Morticia. “Tish?” He knows that she considers his problems to be hers, and her knowing about displacement when he doesn’t would be both possible and is completely comfortable with him. Honestly, the moment breaks the flow of the scene slightly, and adding it in just serves to hammer home how connected they are in a lovely, subtle way. So great!
I loved that part. I thought it was really cool that his first thought was to ask her about it. Not just assuming that she didn't know either. Also when he sits back down, he instantly reaches for her for comfort.
My husband calls me "Cara Mia" because of this movie! We aren't as goth as Morticia and Gomez but in all other respects our relationship is quite similar 🥰 we've been friends for 10 years and in a relationship for 5 years and we are still passionately in love, still growing in love ❤️🌌
I don't often see healthy couples in media who just want to be together, without the expectations of sex. Here, I love how Gomez and Morticia could be seen as a couple who doesn't have to equate sex and love to be happy. They adore and respect one another, they have unique interests outside their partner and they are completely honest about boundaries, communication and trust. Yes, they have children and yes they do have a sex life, but I always got the feeling they would be just as happy being together without having sex. They proved as much in the 1960s TV show where sex was implied, but you never even saw them kiss on the lips. The most Gomez ever did was kiss Morticia's arm when she spoke French. I found that infinitely more attractive/erotic than any "sex scene" in the films. As an ace, seeing a healthy marital relationship focused on partnership and trust before and/or not including sex in this movie is both positive and refreshing. I hope one day it can become normalized and that media will change the focus from sex to healthy partnerships.
This thread has some of the healthiest understandings of love that I’ve seen. Wedding vows typically include “in sickness or in health”. Before marrying, my husband and I discussed what that might look like, from daily chores to holding a job to sex. My health has dramatically worsened since then, so sex is not a priority. We agree that our marriage is still strong and that we still love each other. My condition is chronic; if we don’t keep our “in sickness” vow, our marriage with fall apart and we will lose the spousal love and support that we depend on.
They're deeply passionate, but that passion extends well outside of sexual matters. They're passionate about *each other*. The innuendoes sure do rain from the sky around them, though :D
Yes, my ace brethren! I agree. I get sick of those types of scenes, they are in most movies with romance between characters, I love love, but sex just isn't it lol. That's kinda why I love the 60s one so much, it doesn't cross the lines to be uncomfy to be around, and you can tell that this is a way of them being close and intimate.
I'm so glad someone mentioned that, I'm ace too and that's exactly how I feel about couples in the media, I'm so tired of everything just being about sex, like you can be romantic and erotic without the act of sex itself and you can build a meaningful relationship without it too. Gomez and Morticia are one of my biggest "inspirations" on the romantic area of life, the mutual respect, trust and love they have for each other is just beautiful to witness.
I love Gomez’s portrayal as a caring and involved father who laughs at toxic masculinity’s face, especially because my dad is a very big, manly, bloke. He likes surfing and rugby and sports and barbecues and all that shit which is considered “masculine” and he’s a big, tall guy to. But he also has to daughters and was never above being there for us princesses, fairies makeovers and all (we were very girly when we were little) even for the icky puberty talks and the teenagers waterworks. It must’ve been a little lonely at times being the only dude in the household but he never hesitated to take that extra step.
Morticia is so iconic she warps the environment around her to make it look like shes in a 1930s fantasy horror film and honestly i wish i could do that
Morticia fully communicates, she just does it in French, which he understands. She says, The sun, "he pierces me like a dagger," and Gomez accepts the duel.
Morticia and Gomez always struck me as a child for being such supportive parents and people! They validate their kids, support each other without jugement and are accepting without taking bullshit from anyone.
As a member of the "horrible goth weirdo monster people" club I thoroughly enjoyed this! You guys seem to enjoy these films as much as I do. On a serious note, I was around 9-10yrs old when these films came out and at the time I had the WORST examples of relationships. My parents were horribly toxic and I grew up in a chaotic and abusive home. This film blew my mind as a child and became my beacon of hope. I remember thinking "THIS IS WHAT I WANT!" And I'm beyond happy to say that I've been in a loving and healthy relationship with my husband for nearly 20 years and behind closed doors we are very much like Morticia and Gomez (we're not into PDA lol).
Jokes aside: Gomez and morticia respect each other, support each other and still flirt and romance each other after x years and 3 kids. Relationship goals
Going back to solve your solvable problems, mama briefly asks Morticia about whether adultery might be causing Gomez's stress, and she immediately says no. This tells us that she has true faith and trust in her husband. Another important element in a healthy relationship.
The fact that the Addams parents have an obviously passionate sex life and being madly in love is what made them stand out. Normally you get the odd sex joke or a lovely dovey comment but this family just went, ‘Hey couples and parents have sex, sometimes kinky sex but it’s all done consensually by two people in love’.
I'm an AroAce who isn't into dating and marriage myself but I love watching shows and movies that have healthy marriages and stable families. (I grew up in a toxic household I lowkey wished my parents tried to get some help with their mental health and alcoholism.) I think anyone who wants to get marry should go for a marriage similar to Gomez and Morticia.
let’s also talk about how amazing a parent Morticia is bc when their baby turned into a “normal” baby Morticia reads Cat in the Hat even though it causes her real discomfort. The baby wanted it so she was a good mother and read it to him, love her!!!!
@ShiaraS46 God what a great metaphor for your kid coming out as gay or creative or not religious, or something contrary to your personal beliefs, but the parent being the adult in the situation and choosing to support them and their identity even though they don't understand it,
@ZeeChops My school did a stage play where Gomez "had to" lie to Morticia about something and she lost her mind over him keeping secrets, became backstabbing and threatened to leave him. Worst adaptation of the Addams Family out there.
I've ALWAYS believed that the whole Addams Family are a fantastic representation of what a genuinely healthy and caring family should be like. Gomez & Morticia adore each other and always lift each other up, as you pointed out, they're present for their kids at every opportunity, also as you guys pointed out, they have zero problems with involving a therapist if they feel it can help...the only thing really "odd" about them is they're not into loud, bright, colourful, 'happy' aesthetics. Their aesthetic is whatever makes them feel comfortable and happy with themselves and each other. Morticia and Gomez are 100% relationship goals, and the family as a whole are family goals
I cannot even begin to say how much I enjoyed this video. My daughter and I are seriously disabled, and we are in constant, constant physical pain. How we survive all of this is through a deep sense of black humor. It is the ability to laugh at ourselves and at the pain and horror of our lives that helps us survive. So I of course cherish this movie, as does my daughter. And we too have always looked at them as being an ideal example of a good marriage, a good relationship, and good parents. It also tickles our funny bone. But what was so striking to me about your analysis and all that you pointed out in this film was how much it reminds me of my daughter and her husband‘s relationship. They are not able to have children because of her disease, and her disability, but nearly all that you pointed out here, most especially the dark humor, and how it plays into what works in the relationship, had me howling with laughter over how much it reminds me so wonderfully and so beautifully of my glorious daughter and her husband. I just sent her a copy of the clip.
A great follow up to this would be to analyze Jokers relationship with Harley Quinn. I don't understand why so many girls, teens and women idolize their relationship, so it would be great to see the therapist take on why it's not a great relationship to idolize. Which is why I loved the analyzing of the Twilight series. Another one would be the Matrix.
@Angelic252 Literally one of my friends in high school put her boyfriend as "puddin" in her contacts and contemplated suggesting a halloween couples costume with Harley and the Joker and while her bf said no she still continued to see them as Harley and Joker. Also, let me just say that he was a perfectly good person, he didn't match any single of the Joker's characteristics even a tiny bit (he could be a dick but that's high school), so I could never see the correlation... Anyway, one day I did ask her if she was aware how fucked up that fictional relationship is and questioned her on why she idolized it, to which she just looked at me like I was dumb but didn't reply. To this day, I still don't know the answer but I like to think there's a distinct lack of self respect and overall brainlessness involved
This touches on so many reasons why I’m so opinionated on how Morticia and Gomez are portrayed that I couldn’t put into words. They are one of the few examples of healthy, consummate love in a long marriage on a tv screen that we have. Thank you!
Morticia's demure style is iresistable and such an example of femininity and grace, she never has to yell at him or her children to get anything across.
I love how when the family is evicted and Gomez is depressed, Morticia seeks a job. She doesn't resent her husband. She knows he is struggling and will do what she needs to support the family and give her husband time to process.
@Mona Bohamad2 It means that you're a jealous person who gets upset even if fictional characters are in healthy relationships, simply because you fail to be in one yourself.
I never thought much about it until now, but I believe the Addams will always be a happy family because they accept all the typical “evil”, “gloomy”, or “macabre” like elements and events in life that would usually tear apart the typical family. Even when they do have a family problem, they are so used to adapting and living in chaotic events that that problem is quickly solved and they even grow stronger as a family EVERY TIME!
Ugh, Morticia and Gomez are literal couple and parent goals. Supportive and full of love for both each other, and their families, all whilst preserving their own sense of self. I love the Addams Family so much.
Quite late to this party - but - the Addams family is a FANTASTIC TOOL when teaching other people about consent. It’s funny that a couple of *suspected* serial killers embody consent so well, but they do. Gomez and Tish ask for each other’s consent in most scenes, and it’s an easy reference to say look this is natural, it doesn’t “take away from the moment” or make someone less masculine. Consent facilitates intimacy. You even see that the way Tish and Gomez parent Wednesday and Pugsly. The highest concern is always whether they both want to partake in something. Even though Tish and Gomez have been together for many years and have kids together, they still actively listen and ask for consent, both socially and intimately. Which helps foster a healthy relationship
I came back to watch this again, because I was just talking with my Mom about how successful Mom and Dad's marriage was, and it reminded me of this. I like in the first bit, where Gomez says, "Woo her. Admire her. Make her feel like she is the most sublime creature on the planet." He never says anything about complimenting her looks (which of course, he DOES, but that's not the point of the advice), but complimenting HER. Some people just can't bear to hear compliments about their looks, largely because they are not Hollywood Hot, and have been told all the lives that their looks just don't measure up, so if you say, "You're beautiful," they'll call you a liar. But if you say, "You are smart!" or "You are kind!" or "You have a real gift for X," they'll believe THAT, and take it to heart and appreciate it. They will feel sublime, if you admire their favorite qualities. Morticia knows she's gorgeous, and appreciates the compliments, because she knows they are true. Fanny Price, of Jane Austen's Mansfield Park, falls for the compliments to her character, while shying away from compliments that involved *being looked at.* That's just another aspect of KNOWING your partner, and knowing not only what is sublime about them, but what makes them FEEL sublime, and honoring and admiring that.
Moment of appreciation for the fact that as well as being a loving husband, Gomez is an involved father. He goes to plays and parents evenings, he engages his children with their interests, and its not just the movies, in the TV show we see him cuddling his Wednesday and Pugsley. This man saw toxic masculinity and said en garde!
No he embraced true masculinity which is caring for those you're supposed to care for we need to throw away this constant bashing of toxic masculinity your comment is Laden with hate and it could have been such a supportive awesome statement but no you had to pull on toxic masculinity rather than saying this is a prime example of real masculinity.. My father was a prime example of masculinity and there was nothing toxic about it there was nothing effeminate about it he was a man's man and he did what a man should do me and my sister were always loved and protected my daddy would take me to movies regularly he never cheated on my mother or abused her in any way, and the idea that he would be deemed toxic just for being a man in today's world sickens me, I'm The Confident headstrong woman I am because my daddy was strong and I knew that a strong man loved me when I was a little girl. I've had friends of mine who are very attentive good caring fathers weep in my presence that they are bad somehow because of all the nasty media and constant underhanded comments like yours tearing apart what it is to be a man. Gomez never said screw you toxic masculinity he embraced real masculinity
@Nosotros Los Lobos Estamos Regresando Toxic masculinity is not a man being manly, it's a man thinking they have to hide behind a stoic facade where they are taught they aren't allowed to feel things especially negative ones, have a soft side for kids or animals, and they gotta put women in their place somehow because they HAVE to be in control at all times of EVERYTHING. That's where the toxic stuff comes in. Men can be manly and not be assholes. Can be strong but have emotion. Can be caring but unwavering in their resolve. THAT is what women find attractive, THAT is what is a healthy and STRONG display of masculinity. And as a woman that is what I would find the sexiest out of anything else.
I love that Mortisha trying to help solve whatever is causing Gomez such strife was brought to attention. It really drives me crazy how trying to help solve troubles, problems, and issues for their significant others has somehow gained a negative connotation. Why is it seen as so bad to want to help them with their troubles? It's not that you have no faith or trust in them or want to undermine them or anything stupid like that. You care about them and you want to try to help. WHY IS THAT BAD
7 tips/ principles : 1- Enhance your love maps. 2- Nurture fondness and admiration 3- Turn toward each other (rather than against or away). 4- Let you partner influence you. 5- Solve your solvable problems. 6- Overcome gridlock. 7- Create shared meaning.
I have been worried for a long time about finding a suitable husband and being able to manage having kids and life with my ADHD. With this video I saw how it's not only possible but I'm actually feeling hopeful and excited for it. Thanks, dudes!
I had a long string of really unhealthy relationships that stemmed from childhood trauma and an extremely emotionally abusive parent. Between that and my own ADHD, I've spent a long time believing at my core that there is something deeply wrong with me. My partner now is calm, level-headed, and brings me such peace that I never thought could be possible. He is patient but firm, sticks to his boundaries and doesn't let me steamroll him but is always always always kind and respectful. Have faith!!
I just realised that I unknowingly defined my own idea of a family and a happy relationship based on the Addams Famile and honestly, I am quite happy with that
My husband and I try to model our relationship after Gomez and Morticia. Our family isn't well off like them, but we try to provide love and understanding to our lives together. Plus, we both have the same dark and dank sense of humor that this movie puts off and it's just so lovely to share that with someone who understands and banters back. And we are never bored, that's for sure. It's a good life among the fog and tombstones. Also, what woman wouldn't want to be Morticia? What man wouldn't want to be Gomez? Who wouldn't want to live in that amazing home? That was my ultimate "marriage fantasy" as a girl.
Even from a young age I never understood why so many dysfunctional and often abusive relationships get so much ideation. Gomez and Morticia have always been my example of what a good relationship is. If I hear one more person say they want a Harley and Joker relationship, I'm giving up on humanity.
Exactly. Anyone who says they want a relationship like Harley & the Joker is either masochistic or has been privileged to have never been in an abusive relationship. I haven't had that privilege and it IS insanity. I love MUCH rather a man be obsessed over me the way Gomez is with Morticia because he loves and admires her, instead of the obsessive stalking due to me leaving an abusive ex because he thinks I'm his possession and that I belong to him.
I relate to this so much. My mom had a relationship with a guy who LOVED the joker. She would always say she loved that her relationship with him was like Harley and Joker and here I was like "I want someone to be the Gomez to my Morticia" I'm actually pretty happy that I grew up to have a marriage that's similar to Gomez and Morticia, my husband and I had to strive for it and learn from each other in the 5 years we've been married but I'm happy we did
@FluffyMcSpooks the best defense is “it’s bad but atleast nether party forced the other into killing themselves” I swear why do we read that play when teens are at their worst of toxicity in relationships 😢
Gomez and Morticia are the best example of secure attachment: *They communicate very well when things are going wrong. * They don't need to keep tabs on each other, yet know they are trustworthy. *They compromise, instead of sacrificing. *They are very welcoming of others.
Love this. At the end when you said they don’t neglect their kids, the perfect contrasting example is the parents from The Willoughbys who are also kinky and obsessed with each other but truly horrible neglectful parents.
Gomez's lines work because they aren't just lines, he believes them, and he's not saying them to get anything from her, but just to show love. They also work because Morticia believes them and feels worthy of them, he's not just spitting out bullshit to her, he's dropping facts.
I love the scene with the doctor where she uses a term Gomez has never heard of and he immediately has so much respect for Morticia that he turns to her and asks if she knows anything about it, sort of like 'if I don't know what this is, maybe Morticia knows because she's also smart.' And then they both eagerly sit and learn about this new concept together, just another way to bond as a couple.
Raul Julia and Anjelica Huston are, IMHO, *the* Gomez and Morticia. Their chemistry was off the charts, and the way they threw themselves into the characters and relationship and made it so believable was perfect.
Morticia also an embodiment of self-esteem and self-acceptance. I don't see her taking BS from anyone, or other way round diminishing others. Real role model in that regard!
My favorite scene is when she talks to Fester in the graveyard. She set up VERY clearly where the line is, and she did so without ever yelling or making him feel like less of a person.
My family life as a kid in the 60's was chaotic and unpleasant, with narcissistic parents and health issues they refused to acknowledge. The one thing I wanted most in the world was to escape, and I wanted desperately to be an Addams. They modeled the perfect family for me. (I was never taken in by those cardboard TV families.) They were happy and loving, and their kids never had to be afraid of them. I couldn't imagine a childhood like that, but I wanted it so much. (The other place I wanted to escape to was outer space - I was a Star Trek fan even as a little kid when it first aired.)
OMG, I love this! I think I can honestly say that my beloved husband, Bruce, and I are the real-life Morticia and Gomez. Not quite as dark, but just as weirdly committed. Met as a science fiction convention, got busy the first "date", moved in in 2 1/2 months, married on Halloween night six months after meeting. We get the "icky sweet" couple award all the time because we actually like being with each other. The covid lockdown wasn't bad, he worked from home and took care of me (I have MS). We sat and shared your video and just laughed (holding hands, no kidding.) We're both now 65, been married 29 years in two weeks, and we aren't your usual grandparents. (4 kids, 9 grandkids). We went on our "honeymoon cruise" finally, I had purple and green hair (look at the picture) and he wore his black kilt to dinner one night. He looks like Santa year round (white beard) and could have pulled off the "vacation Santa" with his Hawaiian shirts we bought him. I sold two sets of the first 4 novels in my vampire series "Fangs & Halos" on the cruise too. (yes, vampires and angels, and a vampire cat who is a snark.) My youngest daughter could do a great Wednesday Addams when she was in school (now has 3 kids, one almost out of high school), and my eldest granddaughter, now in college, IS the Wednesday in our family. Oh, and my signature line is "I'm the grandmother your mother warned you about." After two failed marriages for me and one for him, we were afraid of the "M Word" but ended up married anyway. And it's glorious. So, you have two watchers who could be the models for well-adjusted, loving, but just weird married couple.
If Gomez and Morticia were to be arrested for public indecency, they'd probably ask for copies of the mug shots to put in their family album, and refer to them often, just like they reminisce about their honeymoon. And although they're in separate cells, they'd be in separate cells together, at the same time, fantasizing about the other one, and "What is he/she doing now?" and probably using the left-over ink on their fingertips (from fingerprinting) to write "I love Tish/Gomez" notes on the cell walls. Yeah, that would be a story to tell the kids, particularly when giving them "The Talk," such as right before the kid gets married, they say, "I hope you share some wonderful experiences with your spouse, just like your we did," sort of thing. In short, it would not only not bother them, but they'd get off on it, even more. Although they are practical enough that they'd probably just remember it, for special occasions, and not try to get arrested again. After all, they do NOT neglect their children, and if they were to get stuck in jail for a long time, that would adversely affect the children, and they can't have that. So, I believe it would be a "one and done" situation with them.
My answer to Alan on the question of "is their obsession with each other unhealthy?" would be: Yes, IF that were the only thing that defined who they were. As Jonathan says, their family as a whole is just as important to them, but Morticia and Gomez both have interests and self OUTSIDE of their marriage (Gomez fences, handles their finances, golfs while Morticia gardens). They have identities of self outside of "Morticia and Gomez" and that's something that's very important to avoiding excess entanglement that is unhealthy.
@Masodemic That's one of the best lines in that movie....right up there with the description of Great Aunt Calpurnia: "But don't worry, we've told Wednesday, college first!"
Morticia also says she wants to “seek out the dark forces and join their hellish crusades” and Gomez 100% supports this. They support each other’s interest and lives outside their marriage too 😭💖
They also never shut themselves on each other and forget their families. They spent time together by themselves, or together with their kids, but also apart with their respective family members, like Morticia and her mother and Gomez and Chester.
@Peaceful Painting the kids trying to kill the baby is not their action or inaction, so how would it be neglect? The parents do notice and take effort to stop that animosety
Oddly enough, Mort and Gomie 's (thank you for that) relationship was the only successful /happy relationship I ever saw growing up. And I kinda used their ways to make my own. Something worked. I'm 22 years into my marriage. I'm happy. My husband is also happy. It was also important that my kids got to grow up with a good starting point for their own lives. Hopefully, they won't feel the need to build their values based on something they found on TV.
I feel part of their way of leading their lives as a couple as well as parents, is the fact they don't stick with societal expectations... They are supportive of each other, of their kids... They march to their own drum, not society's...
Can't wait for you guys to revisit #MortAndGotz in the Wednesday Netflix show. Hell there's a lot to go through in the show about bonding. And although I was wary of CZJ as Morticia at first She did well and I absolutely loved Luis Guzmán as Gomez. Different to the likes of Raul Julia's iconic take, I think he nailed it (I do hope we get to see more of his intelligence in future seasons)
Morticia is honestly a role model in a lot of ways. She’s always 100% HER. She does not budge from who she is, but at the same time she doesn’t ask any of the “normal” people to. When she judges, she’s p much silent about it and is very validating, but that goes both ways and she expresses herself in public just as boldly as everyone else. The ONE time I can think of where she outright judges someone out loud is to insult Debbie after she’s very clearly been revealed to be a genuinely evil person ruining the family: “But really, Deborah? …….. Pastels?” Lol
@ForestSen It does seem to be a running theme that while they consider everyone else strange compared to themselves, they still respect them and at no point try to make others change to fit into their 'normal'. They're probably the nicest family in the fiction overall and I think everyone should strive to be more like the Addams Family. Heck, even Wednesday, the most sinister of them all, tends to avoid causing issues for others unless they cause issues for her and has shown a desire to punish bullies in pretty much every rendition of her character.
And I’m sure she wouldn’t have even mentioned the pastels at all if she stayed part of the family. Morticia would have just accepted it and worked around Debbie’s pastel fixation. 😂 she had no problems with Margaret and her “normalcy”. She just accepted her and her pink princess dress (I think she was dressed as Glinda?)
I always adored these movies. Although they're considered outsiders, the Addams family are nothing but loving to one another and genuinely open and welcoming to others. They all have such a healthy respect for one another, even the adults to the children. And the absolute support Gomez and Morticia provide each other is great, you can really tell they both put in as much as they can give to the relationship, even when Gomez stumbles, Morticia is right there to back him up and provide for him.
I love the scene where morticia is asleep and Gomez is like admiring her and watching her. I just keep thinking here's how it's done twilight take notes!
"don't torture yourself, Gomez. That's my job" - Morticia Seriously though, their passion for each other and their love and devotion to each other and their children is amazing, which is why I love these movies
@Whitney Dahlin the problem is finding them. People say 'there's plenty of fish in the sea' but the problem with the abundance of fish is that you will have almost no chance to find the one you want.
I liked how in the other movie when the baby gets “sick” and turns into a blond haired rosey cheeked baby that all other parents would give anything to have Morticia is worried but does not abandon the baby even though it’s not showing typical Adam’s traits anymore. She even reads the baby The Cat and the Hat which horrifies her but she does it because she recognizes that’s what her baby wants right then. Love that. I wondered if there children ever rebelled and went through a Britney Spears phase what would they do. And that answered the question. They’d be horrified but supportive. ❤❤❤
I love the pacing of these videos. There’s commentary, clips, analysis, advice, and then the placing of sponsorships and such. Amazing. Also, I love your dynamic.
I love that you guys love this because as abnormal as they are they never intentionally harm those who don’t harm them. They fit the physical stereotype of villains but are just good people with their own way of life. Seeing the bad in ‘normal’ people for a long time really drew me closer to what people view as monstrous because of how misinterpreted it usually is. Good people wear harder shells and some monsters have just been through hell.
When my husband and I were dating he asked me what I wanted in marriage and I said "Gomez and Morticia Addams". I didn't even hesitate and yes, he gave that to me. Over 20 years and we're still going strong.
My sister and I have always thought that Morticia and Gomez' relationship was a good example of what a healthy marriage should be like... and while our parents were for all intents an purposes "solid" we always used them as an example for that person that would make us feel like we were the most important individual to them. She found that... I'm still working on it but the goal hasn't changed I want a love as strong as theirs. ETA: Kudos to whoever does the CC... I was laughing uncontrollably when I noticed that the scenes for the movie where identified as Mort and Gotz for their respective lines. Well done!!!
The Addams family is such an endearing franchise because despite them being caricature Halloween horror monsters they have a healthier family dynamic than literally every other normal person they show alongside them
I always found it ironic that the couple we would normally perceive as “odd” or “different” is actually the one with the most healthy and loving relationship and marriage.
This was the first video I watched of Cinema Therapy and now I'm revisiting it a couple of months later. Still loving the analysis and getting even more out of it.
@Amelia's Cozy Corner It makes me so deeply sad that I can never fulfill that preference for someone not because I wouldn't love to dance but because I'm so beyond help terrible at it. As in rythm deaf, completely clumsy and unable to move in certain ways (like my hips just get stuck). My partner enjoys dancing so much and I just panic even when trying to slow dance.
I remember wishing my boyfriend would dance with me. Multiple relationships, nobody wanted to dance. Finally, my boyfriend invited me to dance with him, spontaneously, and I couldn’t believe how wonderful it was. He’s now my husband, and we dance whenever we get the chance. ❤️
I always loved The Addams Family (the franchise and characters) cuz they reminded me of our family. Not Gomez and Morticia's relationship since Mom was a single mother but she's been a goth girl since she was a teen in the 90s so our decorations were usually bought around halloween and we had a collection of weapon replicas on the wall. Papaw's a chill country man so his thoughts are "as long as the farm's getting taken care of I'll go along with anything. Here daughter, I found this deer skull out by the creek you can hang it with the others over the baby's headboard" I thought the joke for The Addams Family and The Munsters was that they were a normal happy family that somehow got all these miserable neighbors but refused to become miserable like them to fit in. I was not prepared to go to preschool and find out *we* were the weird ones lmao
I was showing my boyfriend this video because they're my ultimate favorite couple and how the family makes me very happy and how healthy the whole family is. He had the audacity to tell me they're unhealthily infatuated with each other and how it's unfair I hold him to that standard. I'm like wtf. So I sent him this video. Now he loves that couple as much as I do.
Please do the parent trap! Just watched the 1998 one with my kid and all I can think about is the damage those parents must have caused those children by separating them.
@Mona Bohamad2 If you love the Twilight movies or books, I'm not going to try and take that away from you. But don't model your relationship on Edward's and Bella's. It's not a good idea.
Something I wanted to point out about Morticia wanting to solve a problem for Gomez is also that it isn't that she wants to stop his behavior, like it isn't "His trains are such a mess I must make him stop playing with them" but rather, she (and the whole family) realize that his playing with them indicates he is upset and therefore she wants to help him fix what is making him upset because she wants him to be happy. I am probably pointing this out in a clunky way, but I just mean that some people might be like, "I hate when you mope around the house, it's annoying" and want them to solve their problem to curb the annoying behavior. I sort of see it as the difference between a parent who helps their upset child regulate their emotions by walking through what is wrong and helping them take deep breaths and hugs them because they want them to calm down and feel better, rather than those who are like, "Stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about" because they don't want a scene.
The Addams family have been relationship goals ever since I first watched the films! 😍 The more I watch it, the more I realise they are amazing together. They have so much fun and really live up to "growing old disgracefully"! 😂
I’m very pleasantly surprised at how well Morticia and Gomez display a healthy marriage! Also, a lot of the advice they gave were really insightful tips you don’t typically hear. I like how Alan and John look past the surface creepy things the Adams do and get to the heart of why they have such a strong family/marriage! Fantastic video!
One of the funniest parts of Addams Family Values is when Morticia says to Debbie "You have placed Fester under some sexual spell. I respect that. But really Debbie? Pastels?"
“I can forgive that” after listing a bunch of other stuff she did to fester. So accepting and forgiving but will never give anyone with pastels a second chance
Another thing that could be noted is that both Gomez and Mortricia appreciate themselves, know who they are and are secure about their identuty. If one starts backing in that sense, the other is there to encourage them. But you also have to have a sense of being happy with yourself so you can know what qualities of yours you wish to retain in every second of a relationship with another person so you don't fall back and end up being stepped on(in case a person doesn't end up being what they promised though I'm mostly speaking for fast relationships in this case when people are at the beginning of everything)
You guys probably don't cover TV shows, but Bluey has been on my mind since I started watching it because of just how healthy the family dynamic is, and it would be interesting to hear an analysis of it
It's a small scene , but I love when Gomez is hitting golf balls and Morticia is watching him ; not because he asked her to , not to placate him , but because she genuinely enjoys watching her Man engaging in an activity that he enjoys - in essence , it makes her happy to see him being happy 💕
@ChaseyBoyJones exactly ; it's a beautiful thing
very true that they make each other happy by watching each other's happiness.
I love watching my husband be happy
@Candy_Cain isn't it true?
@Jason Sunleaf why did you have to sexualize it
I also really like how, when the family is kicked out of their home and Gomez becomes completely depressed, Morticia is not disappointed in him that he is momentarily unable to care for his family, instead she tries to take on a job and give him some space and when things don't improve, she doesn't expect Gomez to 'man up' and get the house back, she tries to plea with Fester herself
@Kennedy Crandall hmmm... i think it depends on the paint quality, not color. or brands, maybe, because vanta black is definitively out of this artist's pricing, and the types vary in price as well, as if it's synthetic color, or, from natural dies.... 🤔 interior paints are generally latex based any more
@Yvonne Thompson From what I’ve learned painting with pastels costs less so Morticia was actually more so calling her cheap and tacky😭😭
The line, specifically states pastelles. And the set looked horrendous. Morticia says she can look past the treachery, and manipulation, and even ripping Fester away.
@Yvonne Thompson it was the execution of said pastels. Debbie used baby pink for evil and that’s ok but the bar scene, the anniversary gift/bomb… ugh it’s the wasted potential for me. She could’ve been an iconic Aadams but she just missed the mark by not being about the family, for shame…
SHAME!!!
i'm with her on the colors in the house though, seriously, Pastelles hurt.
The Addams family: Happily-married, faithful parents; parents who support their children's interests; intergenerational household without resentment; treats employees like family; happy extended family; kids who play together (more or less) constructively . . . I think this might literally be the most functional fictional family I've ever seen in a movie.
@AuthorShadeThink of it as a bad parody.
@AuthorShade pretty much
and Wednesday completely ruined that
@Jazzy Waffles Having never seen the old tv show or read the comics... That sounds like an INCREDIBLY Gomez thing to do.
"What? Lower taxes? Not if I have anything to say about that!" *Runs for office to fix that shit*
In second place is the Simpsons.
Okay but "I would die for her; I would kill for her; either way, what bliss" is such a feral and romantic line and I love it
@Allani A'Dall It is actually. The Christians adopted the pagan Yule celebrations and kept a few pagan items but did basically a rebranding. But the tree is pagan. That's why it's way off from the calculated death of Christ the time came from Yule.
@Kat Angel It was how Romans did their worst executions. Not all of Christianity is jewish. Just not part of the world.
@AceLovesDIYs Christopher No it aint.
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ if we don't sin Jesus died for nothing
Debby: Well isnt he a lady killer
Gomez: Acquitted!!
One small detail I like is how when the grandma is suggesting what might be troubling gomez and suggests "adultery?" Morticia responds "oh, no" the way she says it she knows that definitely isn't it she knows their relationship is too solid for that to even be a possibility
Ya she just answers and moves on. There’s no freak out or panic just matter of fact
I agree. You can tell by the way your spouse treats you if they love you are not. And it's not by buying stuff for you, but rather doing things for you, being there for you, prioritizing the family. Just a quick call away etc. It would be a GREAT GIFT to have a relationship like Morticia and Gomez.
I think one thing you notice about the Addams Family is that they make one important distinction. They seem to enjoy physical pain, and have no qualms about causing bodily harm to one another. But they never cause each other *emotional* pain, they are very loving and supportive of one another, never talk down to or belittle each other. I believe the Addames are very well aware of the distinction between these two kinds of pain.
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@BTSARMYFOREVER Again, I'm not saying that my mother was in the wrong for protecting me but I do feel she was wrong for the extent she went to to keep me "safe".
My mother was very overprotective and didn't allow me to do the normal things a child should do growing up.
Learning to swim, learning to ride a bike, learning to drive, getting her first kiss, going out at night with friends, dating, etc.
All of these things i didn't get to experience growing up. I didn't get to experience them my mother finally died when i was in my 20s.
At some point a parent really needs to learn to let go and allow their child to grow up, take chances and decide their own lives. And my mom just couldn't do that. I understand that she wanted to protect me but you have to let your kids live. And yeah, that sometimes means they're going to get hurt but it's better than keeping them ignorant of the world till they're forced into it and reality shows them how unprepared they were.
A little pain in childhood saves a lot of pain as an adult
@Glenn Griffon It depends on the situation. Sometimes it's best to err on the side of caution. Not all moments can be perfect. It's alright to create new memories. She did her job as a parent.
Very good point. I feel like that's yet another way the Addams family is the polar opposite of the typical American family. Not causing physical harm doesn't mean people couldn't be savages and cause great harm to each others.
even though they still do stuff like play with guns and dynamite in the old black and white show, they made it clear they never physically discipline their kids and even in an episode where Morticia and Gomez thought each other were cheating, Morticia refused to use violence even tho Thing suggested it and they just wanted each other to be happy even if it was with someone else. Uncle Fester on the other hand would gladly use violence on whoever 👍
Morticia and Gomez have always been my ideal marriage. It's just a such a wholesome marriage
@Anym There was attempted murder in my family so why not? :D
yes!!!👏👏👏🎉🎉🎉
Same! As part of my formative years, this was probably the only couple that actually looked happy. Everyone else looked "proper" but not that they really liked one another
@Mary, A Bruxinha Artista if only...I can't pull off Morticia goth
One of my favourite throw-away lines from the second film was when Debbie meets Gomez.
“Well, aren’t you the ladykiller!”
“Acquitted, actually!”
“I didn’t hate my mother, it was an accident!”
@WildFireWoo
And the proud look on his face while saying it! 😂
"I'll play the victim!"
"All your life"
4:37 Shared love maps
7:03 Nurture your fondness and admiration
9:38 Turn towards each other
12:33 Letting your partner influence you
15:35 Solve your solvable problems
18:29 Overcoming gridlock by seeking outside help
21:55 Create shared meaning
Thank you! Everyone in the comments is going on about their personal shit, and projecting whatever issues they have. Instead of point out what he says and the reason their relationship works!
Thanks 💗
My parents acted not entirely dissimilar to Gomez and Morticia and both often joked that our family was just like theirs. I grew up with the assumption that *this was* how people in love behaved. I was really thrown for a loop when I got older and encountered the "partners that hate each other" trope.
@Pokaay my parents love each other but my ex husband was verbally and mentally abusive towards my son and me to some extent. I didn’t want my son to think that’s how marriages or families are. You are correct in having healthy standards. Don’t settle. Life feels long and tedious if you do.
I glad you grew up with that model
@Pokaay exactly. Don't settle for less. I say, it's totally fine to have high expectations because in a way you're also setting boundaries from bullshit you shouldn't tolerate in unhealthy relationships. Like you, I'd rather be single than be with someone who treats me less than I deserve.
@Erin Bathie-Moore like seriously. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a relationship where both parties loved the other healthily to the point that it sounds like a fantasy. It would help me see people in better light.
That’s crazy to me. My parents aren’t divorced but their only reason for not being so is for me and my sibling to have two parents in one household. Which I’m grateful for, but it’s strange. Neither of them believe in being able to find a relationship wherein both parties love each other for as long as they’re together. Whenever I talk about wanting to find a partner that respects me and to have a happy relationship with them they tell me not to have high expectations for it. I would much rather be single than find myself in a relationship akin to theirs, or worse. It’s not entirely loveless, but it’s definitely not happy. I always wonder what it would’ve been like to grow up with parents that actually loved each other, healthily. I feel happy for the children that do.
Morticia and gomez is such a fun dynamic to watch. I love the Addams family (not so much the animated ver.). I really think we need to see more relationships like theirs in media. Dysfunctional families aren’t the only way to derive conflict.
In my marriage, I'm definitely the Gomez. Even after 14 years, I hit on my husband constantly and he acts like he thinks I'm being ridiculous but I can tell by his little smile that he secretly loves it. My husband is a very handsome man, but he was a chubby kid most of his young life and I think he has a hard time with still seeing the chubby kid when he looks in the mirror so I always want to build him up and make him feel good about himself. I literally bought a letter board to set by his desk so I can always leave him a cheesy pick up line (currently it says "If you were a flower, you'd be a dammmndelion" lol). I just enjoy making him smile and making it where he'll never feel unloved.
I hope i can be like this in the future
Awwwww
As someone who was the fat kid too, keep doing it. He’ll come around
@LaPris awww that’s adorable!!! your relationship goals!!
@Asha Vere I was once with my ex bf and felt conscious about my belly, and he noticed that and put his hand around my belly, and said 'this is such a tiny belly, it isn't even big enough for belly dancing!' Then he rubbed his own tummy saying 'Now THIS is a belly for bellydancing!'
I found that super cute and started laughing and immediately felt better about myself.
Instead of a remake they should have made a prequel of Mortica and Gomez’ relationship. A dark, adventure romp. A hilarious romantic comedy. I’d have watched the hell out of that.
It's probably best left to hints and the audience's imagination.
How To Genshin I love the casting of Wednesday Addams but Morticia and Gomez were such a disappointment for me- *zero* chemistry compared to this relationship. Raul Julia will *always* be the quintessential Gomez and Anjelica Houston has SO much elegance and style, as well as sultry passion. The new pairing was the total opposite, unfortunately.
They had an episode in Wednesday that shows how they met
in 1964 they have an episode called "Morticia's romance". highly reccomend!
yes they ruined the family and characters
Fun Fact: the Addams Family was designed to be the exact opposite of a normal family. The reason they are a happy couple is because the author thought normal families were not happy.
@Lauren E He is God. He makes the rules. Therefore, He decides what is good and what is not.
@K. Kenjimy grandparents where relationships goals. Just like Up fr
The article I read is that he wrote it as a counter to the "normal family" as depicted in media. Parents hating their kids, "the old ball and chain," the horrible mother in law, the drive to fit in, to "keep up with the Jonses," putting appearances above all else.
So, the Addams became super healthy, loving, and proudly weird.
It's the difference between neurotypical and neurodivergent. Neurodivergent people may be odd, but happy in their own world of oddness. And neurotypical people hate seeing someone okay with not playing the role society wants to force on them, so they try to beat down the neurodivergent person. It took me 36 years to not hate my brain and how it works as a female on the autism spectrum (level 1) and ADHD Inattentive Presenting Moderate. Now I feel like I have a super power to cut through the BS neurotypical people hide behind.
Where I live, healthy family relationships are common.
One of my favorite moments from the classic series is when Gomez spends about five minutes on the show trying to figure out how Houdini got out of a straight jacket. But the minute Morticia said something in French, Gomez was out of that straight jacket in less than ten seconds! 😂
I think I remember that scene and my Dad bursting out laughing while I was confused because, well, I was ten.
Even after all the romantisised toxic relationships todays TV shoved down our throats, Morticia and Gomez were and always will be marriage goals
Goals
i'm so tired of those.
Plus, Gomez and Morticia were amazing parents! They loved their children unconditionally and supported their interests and desires even if they didn’t always understand them. In the original series, there’s an episode where Pugsley wants to be a boy scout and while Gomez and Morticia are freaked out by this, they still support him because they love him. Likewise, when they’re told that their kids want to go to summer camp, they support that.
The revelation of his kids wanting to go to summer camp nearly killed Gomez, but by god they supported em
My girlfriend and I before we even started dating, before we told each other our feelings (before I even realized I had feelings). One of our mutual joked how compatible we were and we were playing into the Morticia and Gomez dynamic and I quoted Gomez to her and I just remember her gasping and saying, "I get to be morticia?" And I was like, "of course!"
Needless to say I'm marrying her
Snap her up! When someone gets your references and humor without explanation, that is a major part of a partnership. One major reason my husband and I got married.
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I think it’s a very small moment, but I always smile when “Dr. Pinderschloss” asks if Gomez has heard of displacement, and he says no and turns to Morticia. “Tish?” He knows that she considers his problems to be hers, and her knowing about displacement when he doesn’t would be both possible and is completely comfortable with him. Honestly, the moment breaks the flow of the scene slightly, and adding it in just serves to hammer home how connected they are in a lovely, subtle way. So great!
@Jenna Heiser yes exactly! Ahah
@Rebecca Romoli Head Morticia and Gomez would both approve! 😆
I would like but I don’t want to ruin the 666
By doing that, he admits that maybe she knows more than him about something, which is not very common for men to do.
I loved that part. I thought it was really cool that his first thought was to ask her about it. Not just assuming that she didn't know either. Also when he sits back down, he instantly reaches for her for comfort.
Gomez and Morticia are genuinely marriage goals
And Jonathan and Alan are genuinely friendship goals 🌈 ☀️ 🌻
My husband calls me "Cara Mia" because of this movie! We aren't as goth as Morticia and Gomez but in all other respects our relationship is quite similar 🥰 we've been friends for 10 years and in a relationship for 5 years and we are still passionately in love, still growing in love ❤️🌌
I also want to raise the dead with my wife
Exactly, they're still passionately in love, and never lose sight of their love for each other.
I don't often see healthy couples in media who just want to be together, without the expectations of sex. Here, I love how Gomez and Morticia could be seen as a couple who doesn't have to equate sex and love to be happy. They adore and respect one another, they have unique interests outside their partner and they are completely honest about boundaries, communication and trust. Yes, they have children and yes they do have a sex life, but I always got the feeling they would be just as happy being together without having sex. They proved as much in the 1960s TV show where sex was implied, but you never even saw them kiss on the lips. The most Gomez ever did was kiss Morticia's arm when she spoke French. I found that infinitely more attractive/erotic than any "sex scene" in the films. As an ace, seeing a healthy marital relationship focused on partnership and trust before and/or not including sex in this movie is both positive and refreshing. I hope one day it can become normalized and that media will change the focus from sex to healthy partnerships.
This thread has some of the healthiest understandings of love that I’ve seen. Wedding vows typically include “in sickness or in health”. Before marrying, my husband and I discussed what that might look like, from daily chores to holding a job to sex. My health has dramatically worsened since then, so sex is not a priority. We agree that our marriage is still strong and that we still love each other. My condition is chronic; if we don’t keep our “in sickness” vow, our marriage with fall apart and we will lose the spousal love and support that we depend on.
They're deeply passionate, but that passion extends well outside of sexual matters. They're passionate about *each other*. The innuendoes sure do rain from the sky around them, though :D
As a fellow ace as well, i agree they seem so cute and loving together they're literally couple goals 💖
Yes, my ace brethren! I agree. I get sick of those types of scenes, they are in most movies with romance between characters, I love love, but sex just isn't it lol. That's kinda why I love the 60s one so much, it doesn't cross the lines to be uncomfy to be around, and you can tell that this is a way of them being close and intimate.
I'm so glad someone mentioned that, I'm ace too and that's exactly how I feel about couples in the media, I'm so tired of everything just being about sex, like you can be romantic and erotic without the act of sex itself and you can build a meaningful relationship without it too. Gomez and Morticia are one of my biggest "inspirations" on the romantic area of life, the mutual respect, trust and love they have for each other is just beautiful to witness.
I love Gomez’s portrayal as a caring and involved father who laughs at toxic masculinity’s face, especially because my dad is a very big, manly, bloke. He likes surfing and rugby and sports and barbecues and all that shit which is considered “masculine” and he’s a big, tall guy to. But he also has to daughters and was never above being there for us princesses, fairies makeovers and all (we were very girly when we were little) even for the icky puberty talks and the teenagers waterworks. It must’ve been a little lonely at times being the only dude in the household but he never hesitated to take that extra step.
Morticia is so iconic she warps the environment around her to make it look like shes in a 1930s fantasy horror film and honestly i wish i could do that
Morticia fully communicates, she just does it in French, which he understands. She says, The sun, "he pierces me like a dagger," and Gomez accepts the duel.
Morticia and Gomez always struck me as a child for being such supportive parents and people! They validate their kids, support each other without jugement and are accepting without taking bullshit from anyone.
Gomez isn't "en guarding" the blinds, he says "En garde Monsieur Soleil".... He's directly challenging *the Sun*
Ha, I can't believe the guys didn't catch that because it made the scene even funnier that Gomez will even challenge the Sun for his Morticia. 😂
The vessel from Hollow Knight be like
“Last night, you frightened me… Do it again.” ❤❤❤😅
Ladies, get yourself a man who will *fight the Sun* for you
Lol this is the best clarifying comment I've EVER seen😂❤️
As a member of the "horrible goth weirdo monster people" club I thoroughly enjoyed this! You guys seem to enjoy these films as much as I do.
On a serious note, I was around 9-10yrs old when these films came out and at the time I had the WORST examples of relationships. My parents were horribly toxic and I grew up in a chaotic and abusive home. This film blew my mind as a child and became my beacon of hope. I remember thinking "THIS IS WHAT I WANT!" And I'm beyond happy to say that I've been in a loving and healthy relationship with my husband for nearly 20 years and behind closed doors we are very much like Morticia and Gomez (we're not into PDA lol).
Jokes aside: Gomez and morticia respect each other, support each other and still flirt and romance each other after x years and 3 kids. Relationship goals
In their case, it was probably XXX years.
Going back to solve your solvable problems, mama briefly asks Morticia about whether adultery might be causing Gomez's stress, and she immediately says no. This tells us that she has true faith and trust in her husband. Another important element in a healthy relationship.
The fact that the Addams parents have an obviously passionate sex life and being madly in love is what made them stand out. Normally you get the odd sex joke or a lovely dovey comment but this family just went, ‘Hey couples and parents have sex, sometimes kinky sex but it’s all done consensually by two people in love’.
I'm an AroAce who isn't into dating and marriage myself but I love watching shows and movies that have healthy marriages and stable families. (I grew up in a toxic household I lowkey wished my parents tried to get some help with their mental health and alcoholism.) I think anyone who wants to get marry should go for a marriage similar to Gomez and Morticia.
let’s also talk about how amazing a parent Morticia is bc when their baby turned into a “normal” baby Morticia reads Cat in the Hat even though it causes her real discomfort. The baby wanted it so she was a good mother and read it to him, love her!!!!
@ShiaraS46 God what a great metaphor for your kid coming out as gay or creative or not religious, or something contrary to your personal beliefs, but the parent being the adult in the situation and choosing to support them and their identity even though they don't understand it,
And in her case bright colors hurts her but because she loves her kid she puts up with it
@Felicia Adams true true
@Heather Avello A good mama you are! Power to you 💜
@ZeeChops My school did a stage play where Gomez "had to" lie to Morticia about something and she lost her mind over him keeping secrets, became backstabbing and threatened to leave him. Worst adaptation of the Addams Family out there.
I've ALWAYS believed that the whole Addams Family are a fantastic representation of what a genuinely healthy and caring family should be like. Gomez & Morticia adore each other and always lift each other up, as you pointed out, they're present for their kids at every opportunity, also as you guys pointed out, they have zero problems with involving a therapist if they feel it can help...the only thing really "odd" about them is they're not into loud, bright, colourful, 'happy' aesthetics. Their aesthetic is whatever makes them feel comfortable and happy with themselves and each other. Morticia and Gomez are 100% relationship goals, and the family as a whole are family goals
I cannot even begin to say how much I enjoyed this video. My daughter and I are seriously disabled, and we are in constant, constant physical pain. How we survive all of this is through a deep sense of black humor. It is the ability to laugh at ourselves and at the pain and horror of our lives that helps us survive. So I of course cherish this movie, as does my daughter. And we too have always looked at them as being an ideal example of a good marriage, a good relationship, and good parents. It also tickles our funny bone. But what was so striking to me about your analysis and all that you pointed out in this film was how much it reminds me of my daughter and her husband‘s relationship. They are not able to have children because of her disease, and her disability, but nearly all that you pointed out here, most especially the dark humor, and how it plays into what works in the relationship, had me howling with laughter over how much it reminds me so wonderfully and so beautifully of my glorious daughter and her husband. I just sent her a copy of the clip.
A great follow up to this would be to analyze Jokers relationship with Harley Quinn. I don't understand why so many girls, teens and women idolize their relationship, so it would be great to see the therapist take on why it's not a great relationship to idolize. Which is why I loved the analyzing of the Twilight series. Another one would be the Matrix.
Wait, people idolize it? Even the original Animated series?
@Angelic252 Literally one of my friends in high school put her boyfriend as "puddin" in her contacts and contemplated suggesting a halloween couples costume with Harley and the Joker and while her bf said no she still continued to see them as Harley and Joker. Also, let me just say that he was a perfectly good person, he didn't match any single of the Joker's characteristics even a tiny bit (he could be a dick but that's high school), so I could never see the correlation...
Anyway, one day I did ask her if she was aware how fucked up that fictional relationship is and questioned her on why she idolized it, to which she just looked at me like I was dumb but didn't reply.
To this day, I still don't know the answer but I like to think there's a distinct lack of self respect and overall brainlessness involved
@Xeoney I've also seen many people idolize other toxic relationships in media. It genuinely concerns me.
If you're going to romanticize any relationship Harley has it should be her one with Poison Ivy.
This touches on so many reasons why I’m so opinionated on how Morticia and Gomez are portrayed that I couldn’t put into words. They are one of the few examples of healthy, consummate love in a long marriage on a tv screen that we have. Thank you!
Morticia's demure style is iresistable and such an example of femininity and grace, she never has to yell at him or her children to get anything across.
I love how when the family is evicted and Gomez is depressed, Morticia seeks a job. She doesn't resent her husband. She knows he is struggling and will do what she needs to support the family and give her husband time to process.
@Mona Bohamad2 I like how you ignored all the other comments and focused on one that you had some semblance of a reply to.
Thank you!!!!
@Mona Bohamad2 It means that you're a jealous person who gets upset even if fictional characters are in healthy relationships, simply because you fail to be in one yourself.
@Elana Vital if that means that you're pissed off or whatever well then thanks for informing me salty commenter
@Mona Bohamad2 Salty huh 🤭
I never thought much about it until now, but I believe the Addams will always be a happy family because they accept all the typical “evil”, “gloomy”, or “macabre” like elements and events in life that would usually tear apart the typical family. Even when they do have a family problem, they are so used to adapting and living in chaotic events that that problem is quickly solved and they even grow stronger as a family EVERY TIME!
I love that as a whole, it's generally widely accepted that Morticia and Gomez have the perfect marriage.
Ugh, Morticia and Gomez are literal couple and parent goals. Supportive and full of love for both each other, and their families, all whilst preserving their own sense of self. I love the Addams Family so much.
Quite late to this party - but - the Addams family is a FANTASTIC TOOL when teaching other people about consent. It’s funny that a couple of *suspected* serial killers embody consent so well, but they do. Gomez and Tish ask for each other’s consent in most scenes, and it’s an easy reference to say look this is natural, it doesn’t “take away from the moment” or make someone less masculine. Consent facilitates intimacy. You even see that the way Tish and Gomez parent Wednesday and Pugsly. The highest concern is always whether they both want to partake in something. Even though Tish and Gomez have been together for many years and have kids together, they still actively listen and ask for consent, both socially and intimately. Which helps foster a healthy relationship
I came back to watch this again, because I was just talking with my Mom about how successful Mom and Dad's marriage was, and it reminded me of this.
I like in the first bit, where Gomez says, "Woo her. Admire her. Make her feel like she is the most sublime creature on the planet." He never says anything about complimenting her looks (which of course, he DOES, but that's not the point of the advice), but complimenting HER. Some people just can't bear to hear compliments about their looks, largely because they are not Hollywood Hot, and have been told all the lives that their looks just don't measure up, so if you say, "You're beautiful," they'll call you a liar. But if you say, "You are smart!" or "You are kind!" or "You have a real gift for X," they'll believe THAT, and take it to heart and appreciate it. They will feel sublime, if you admire their favorite qualities.
Morticia knows she's gorgeous, and appreciates the compliments, because she knows they are true. Fanny Price, of Jane Austen's Mansfield Park, falls for the compliments to her character, while shying away from compliments that involved *being looked at.*
That's just another aspect of KNOWING your partner, and knowing not only what is sublime about them, but what makes them FEEL sublime, and honoring and admiring that.
Moment of appreciation for the fact that as well as being a loving husband, Gomez is an involved father. He goes to plays and parents evenings, he engages his children with their interests, and its not just the movies, in the TV show we see him cuddling his Wednesday and Pugsley. This man saw toxic masculinity and said en garde!
No he embraced true masculinity which is caring for those you're supposed to care for we need to throw away this constant bashing of toxic masculinity your comment is Laden with hate and it could have been such a supportive awesome statement but no you had to pull on toxic masculinity rather than saying this is a prime example of real masculinity..
My father was a prime example of masculinity and there was nothing toxic about it there was nothing effeminate about it he was a man's man and he did what a man should do me and my sister were always loved and protected my daddy would take me to movies regularly he never cheated on my mother or abused her in any way, and the idea that he would be deemed toxic just for being a man in today's world sickens me, I'm The Confident headstrong woman I am because my daddy was strong and I knew that a strong man loved me when I was a little girl. I've had friends of mine who are very attentive good caring fathers weep in my presence that they are bad somehow because of all the nasty media and constant underhanded comments like yours tearing apart what it is to be a man. Gomez never said screw you toxic masculinity he embraced real masculinity
@Nosotros Los Lobos Estamos Regresando Toxic masculinity is not a man being manly, it's a man thinking they have to hide behind a stoic facade where they are taught they aren't allowed to feel things especially negative ones, have a soft side for kids or animals, and they gotta put women in their place somehow because they HAVE to be in control at all times of EVERYTHING. That's where the toxic stuff comes in. Men can be manly and not be assholes. Can be strong but have emotion. Can be caring but unwavering in their resolve. THAT is what women find attractive, THAT is what is a healthy and STRONG display of masculinity. And as a woman that is what I would find the sexiest out of anything else.
I love that Mortisha trying to help solve whatever is causing Gomez such strife was brought to attention. It really drives me crazy how trying to help solve troubles, problems, and issues for their significant others has somehow gained a negative connotation. Why is it seen as so bad to want to help them with their troubles? It's not that you have no faith or trust in them or want to undermine them or anything stupid like that. You care about them and you want to try to help. WHY IS THAT BAD
In more modern times, people are much more focused on individuality. The individual is the most important over the collective
7 tips/ principles :
1- Enhance your love maps.
2- Nurture fondness and admiration
3- Turn toward each other (rather than against or away).
4- Let you partner influence you.
5- Solve your solvable problems.
6- Overcome gridlock.
7- Create shared meaning.
I have been worried for a long time about finding a suitable husband and being able to manage having kids and life with my ADHD. With this video I saw how it's not only possible but I'm actually feeling hopeful and excited for it. Thanks, dudes!
I had a long string of really unhealthy relationships that stemmed from childhood trauma and an extremely emotionally abusive parent. Between that and my own ADHD, I've spent a long time believing at my core that there is something deeply wrong with me. My partner now is calm, level-headed, and brings me such peace that I never thought could be possible. He is patient but firm, sticks to his boundaries and doesn't let me steamroll him but is always always always kind and respectful. Have faith!!
I just realised that I unknowingly defined my own idea of a family and a happy relationship based on the Addams Famile and honestly, I am quite happy with that
My husband and I try to model our relationship after Gomez and Morticia. Our family isn't well off like them, but we try to provide love and understanding to our lives together. Plus, we both have the same dark and dank sense of humor that this movie puts off and it's just so lovely to share that with someone who understands and banters back. And we are never bored, that's for sure. It's a good life among the fog and tombstones.
Also, what woman wouldn't want to be Morticia? What man wouldn't want to be Gomez? Who wouldn't want to live in that amazing home? That was my ultimate "marriage fantasy" as a girl.
Even from a young age I never understood why so many dysfunctional and often abusive relationships get so much ideation. Gomez and Morticia have always been my example of what a good relationship is. If I hear one more person say they want a Harley and Joker relationship, I'm giving up on humanity.
Because they're the relationships they sell you
Exactly. Anyone who says they want a relationship like Harley & the Joker is either masochistic or has been privileged to have never been in an abusive relationship. I haven't had that privilege and it IS insanity. I love MUCH rather a man be obsessed over me the way Gomez is with Morticia because he loves and admires her, instead of the obsessive stalking due to me leaving an abusive ex because he thinks I'm his possession and that I belong to him.
THANK YOU!
I relate to this so much. My mom had a relationship with a guy who LOVED the joker. She would always say she loved that her relationship with him was like Harley and Joker and here I was like "I want someone to be the Gomez to my Morticia"
I'm actually pretty happy that I grew up to have a marriage that's similar to Gomez and Morticia, my husband and I had to strive for it and learn from each other in the 5 years we've been married but I'm happy we did
@FluffyMcSpooks the best defense is “it’s bad but atleast nether party forced the other into killing themselves” I swear why do we read that play when teens are at their worst of toxicity in relationships 😢
Gomez and Morticia are the best example of secure attachment:
*They communicate very well when things are going wrong.
* They don't need to keep tabs on each other, yet know they are trustworthy.
*They compromise, instead of sacrificing.
*They are very welcoming of others.
Love this. At the end when you said they don’t neglect their kids, the perfect contrasting example is the parents from The Willoughbys who are also kinky and obsessed with each other but truly horrible neglectful parents.
Gomez's lines work because they aren't just lines, he believes them, and he's not saying them to get anything from her, but just to show love. They also work because Morticia believes them and feels worthy of them, he's not just spitting out bullshit to her, he's dropping facts.
I love the scene with the doctor where she uses a term Gomez has never heard of and he immediately has so much respect for Morticia that he turns to her and asks if she knows anything about it, sort of like 'if I don't know what this is, maybe Morticia knows because she's also smart.' And then they both eagerly sit and learn about this new concept together, just another way to bond as a couple.
Raul Julia and Anjelica Huston are, IMHO, *the* Gomez and Morticia. Their chemistry was off the charts, and the way they threw themselves into the characters and relationship and made it so believable was perfect.
Morticia also an embodiment of self-esteem and self-acceptance. I don't see her taking BS from anyone, or other way round diminishing others. Real role model in that regard!
I wanted to be Morticia and marry Morticia as a child. Truly she is life and wife goals.
@Jenni Private as a Addams Jenni. You understand right?
But Debbie...pastels?
My favorite scene is when she talks to Fester in the graveyard. She set up VERY clearly where the line is, and she did so without ever yelling or making him feel like less of a person.
My family life as a kid in the 60's was chaotic and unpleasant, with narcissistic parents and health issues they refused to acknowledge. The one thing I wanted most in the world was to escape, and I wanted desperately to be an Addams. They modeled the perfect family for me. (I was never taken in by those cardboard TV families.) They were happy and loving, and their kids never had to be afraid of them. I couldn't imagine a childhood like that, but I wanted it so much. (The other place I wanted to escape to was outer space - I was a Star Trek fan even as a little kid when it first aired.)
OMG, I love this! I think I can honestly say that my beloved husband, Bruce, and I are the real-life Morticia and Gomez. Not quite as dark, but just as weirdly committed. Met as a science fiction convention, got busy the first "date", moved in in 2 1/2 months, married on Halloween night six months after meeting. We get the "icky sweet" couple award all the time because we actually like being with each other. The covid lockdown wasn't bad, he worked from home and took care of me (I have MS). We sat and shared your video and just laughed (holding hands, no kidding.) We're both now 65, been married 29 years in two weeks, and we aren't your usual grandparents. (4 kids, 9 grandkids). We went on our "honeymoon cruise" finally, I had purple and green hair (look at the picture) and he wore his black kilt to dinner one night. He looks like Santa year round (white beard) and could have pulled off the "vacation Santa" with his Hawaiian shirts we bought him. I sold two sets of the first 4 novels in my vampire series "Fangs & Halos" on the cruise too. (yes, vampires and angels, and a vampire cat who is a snark.) My youngest daughter could do a great Wednesday Addams when she was in school (now has 3 kids, one almost out of high school), and my eldest granddaughter, now in college, IS the Wednesday in our family. Oh, and my signature line is "I'm the grandmother your mother warned you about."
After two failed marriages for me and one for him, we were afraid of the "M Word" but ended up married anyway. And it's glorious. So, you have two watchers who could be the models for well-adjusted, loving, but just weird married couple.
The other thing I love about these two is just how much fun they have together and the level of play. It permeates everything that they do.
This is so wholesome 😍 I watched it multiple times now and I am still giggling like a school girl about all this wholesome, weird, grotesque marriage
Their marriage is silly, but more importantly, healthy!
If Gomez and Morticia were to be arrested for public indecency, they'd probably ask for copies of the mug shots to put in their family album, and refer to them often, just like they reminisce about their honeymoon. And although they're in separate cells, they'd be in separate cells together, at the same time, fantasizing about the other one, and "What is he/she doing now?" and probably using the left-over ink on their fingertips (from fingerprinting) to write "I love Tish/Gomez" notes on the cell walls.
Yeah, that would be a story to tell the kids, particularly when giving them "The Talk," such as right before the kid gets married, they say, "I hope you share some wonderful experiences with your spouse, just like your we did," sort of thing.
In short, it would not only not bother them, but they'd get off on it, even more. Although they are practical enough that they'd probably just remember it, for special occasions, and not try to get arrested again. After all, they do NOT neglect their children, and if they were to get stuck in jail for a long time, that would adversely affect the children, and they can't have that. So, I believe it would be a "one and done" situation with them.
My answer to Alan on the question of "is their obsession with each other unhealthy?" would be: Yes, IF that were the only thing that defined who they were. As Jonathan says, their family as a whole is just as important to them, but Morticia and Gomez both have interests and self OUTSIDE of their marriage (Gomez fences, handles their finances, golfs while Morticia gardens). They have identities of self outside of "Morticia and Gomez" and that's something that's very important to avoiding excess entanglement that is unhealthy.
@Masodemic That's one of the best lines in that movie....right up there with the description of Great Aunt Calpurnia: "But don't worry, we've told Wednesday, college first!"
Morticia has other hobbies. She also seeks out the dark forces in the hopes of joining their hellish crusade
Morticia also says she wants to “seek out the dark forces and join their hellish crusades” and Gomez 100% supports this. They support each other’s interest and lives outside their marriage too 😭💖
They also never shut themselves on each other and forget their families. They spent time together by themselves, or together with their kids, but also apart with their respective family members, like Morticia and her mother and Gomez and Chester.
@Peaceful Painting the kids trying to kill the baby is not their action or inaction, so how would it be neglect? The parents do notice and take effort to stop that animosety
Oddly enough, Mort and Gomie 's (thank you for that) relationship was the only successful /happy relationship I ever saw growing up. And I kinda used their ways to make my own. Something worked. I'm 22 years into my marriage. I'm happy. My husband is also happy. It was also important that my kids got to grow up with a good starting point for their own lives. Hopefully, they won't feel the need to build their values based on something they found on TV.
I feel part of their way of leading their lives as a couple as well as parents, is the fact they don't stick with societal expectations... They are supportive of each other, of their kids... They march to their own drum, not society's...
To a degree, they're conforming to the spooky goth standard
I've always, unironically, said that Morticia and Gomez are #RelationshipGoals. Thank you for outlining exactly why. 💗
We see Morticia as always bathed in ethereal light... I feel like that is representing Gomez's adoration of her. He treats her like a goddess.
Can't wait for you guys to revisit #MortAndGotz in the Wednesday Netflix show. Hell there's a lot to go through in the show about bonding. And although I was wary of CZJ as Morticia at first She did well and I absolutely loved Luis Guzmán as Gomez. Different to the likes of Raul Julia's iconic take, I think he nailed it (I do hope we get to see more of his intelligence in future seasons)
Morticia is honestly a role model in a lot of ways. She’s always 100% HER. She does not budge from who she is, but at the same time she doesn’t ask any of the “normal” people to. When she judges, she’s p much silent about it and is very validating, but that goes both ways and she expresses herself in public just as boldly as everyone else. The ONE time I can think of where she outright judges someone out loud is to insult Debbie after she’s very clearly been revealed to be a genuinely evil person ruining the family: “But really, Deborah? …….. Pastels?” Lol
And judging her extremes in clothing is far different than judging who she is as a person.
@ForestSen It does seem to be a running theme that while they consider everyone else strange compared to themselves, they still respect them and at no point try to make others change to fit into their 'normal'. They're probably the nicest family in the fiction overall and I think everyone should strive to be more like the Addams Family.
Heck, even Wednesday, the most sinister of them all, tends to avoid causing issues for others unless they cause issues for her and has shown a desire to punish bullies in pretty much every rendition of her character.
Iconic line 🤣
And I’m sure she wouldn’t have even mentioned the pastels at all if she stayed part of the family. Morticia would have just accepted it and worked around Debbie’s pastel fixation. 😂 she had no problems with Margaret and her “normalcy”. She just accepted her and her pink princess dress (I think she was dressed as Glinda?)
LOVE that line!!! "You have placed in under some strange sexual spell. I respect that."
I always adored these movies. Although they're considered outsiders, the Addams family are nothing but loving to one another and genuinely open and welcoming to others. They all have such a healthy respect for one another, even the adults to the children. And the absolute support Gomez and Morticia provide each other is great, you can really tell they both put in as much as they can give to the relationship, even when Gomez stumbles, Morticia is right there to back him up and provide for him.
“En garde Monsieur SOLEIL!”
Honestly get you a man that will fight the fucking sun for you. That’s love.
I really like how both mortisha and Gomez embody both traditional masculine and feminine traits and this isn't really considered a bad thing
These two are and always will be couples goals. They’re so genuinely a loving couple.
I love the scene where morticia is asleep and Gomez is like admiring her and watching her. I just keep thinking here's how it's done twilight take notes!
"don't torture yourself, Gomez. That's my job" - Morticia
Seriously though, their passion for each other and their love and devotion to each other and their children is amazing, which is why I love these movies
@Oturan20 Oh yes, of course!
@Charules Of finding the one you want... and wants you.
@Whitney Dahlin the problem is finding them. People say 'there's plenty of fish in the sea' but the problem with the abundance of fish is that you will have almost no chance to find the one you want.
I love that line 🖤 so many good ones.
"...I wish I had more time to seek out the dark forces and join their hellish crusade"
Literally me on the weekends
I liked how in the other movie when the baby gets “sick” and turns into a blond haired rosey cheeked baby that all other parents would give anything to have Morticia is worried but does not abandon the baby even though it’s not showing typical Adam’s traits anymore. She even reads the baby The Cat and the Hat which horrifies her but she does it because she recognizes that’s what her baby wants right then. Love that. I wondered if there children ever rebelled and went through a Britney Spears phase what would they do. And that answered the question. They’d be horrified but supportive. ❤❤❤
I love the pacing of these videos.
There’s commentary, clips, analysis, advice, and then the placing of sponsorships and such.
Amazing.
Also, I love your dynamic.
Glad you like them!
This movie deserves a whole separate video on amazing parenting.
Gomez and Morticia are forever my life goals ♡
I love that you guys love this because as abnormal as they are they never intentionally harm those who don’t harm them. They fit the physical stereotype of villains but are just good people with their own way of life. Seeing the bad in ‘normal’ people for a long time really drew me closer to what people view as monstrous because of how misinterpreted it usually is. Good people wear harder shells and some monsters have just been through hell.
When my husband and I were dating he asked me what I wanted in marriage and I said "Gomez and Morticia Addams". I didn't even hesitate and yes, he gave that to me. Over 20 years and we're still going strong.
@XD Smile Inconceivable!
A greater love story than princess bride
@LoPhatKao aww 😔so sorry to hear that!
@Joy Hayward 😆
So sweet!! 🤗
Absolutely loved their relationship! They gave zero f's about making people uncomfortable!
My sister and I have always thought that Morticia and Gomez' relationship was a good example of what a healthy marriage should be like... and while our parents were for all intents an purposes "solid" we always used them as an example for that person that would make us feel like we were the most important individual to them. She found that... I'm still working on it but the goal hasn't changed I want a love as strong as theirs.
ETA: Kudos to whoever does the CC... I was laughing uncontrollably when I noticed that the scenes for the movie where identified as Mort and Gotz for their respective lines. Well done!!!
The Addams family is such an endearing franchise because despite them being caricature Halloween horror monsters they have a healthier family dynamic than literally every other normal person they show alongside them
I always found it ironic that the couple we would normally perceive as “odd” or “different” is actually the one with the most healthy and loving relationship and marriage.
This was the first video I watched of Cinema Therapy and now I'm revisiting it a couple of months later. Still loving the analysis and getting even more out of it.
"How long has it been since we waltzed?"
"Oh, Gomez...hours."
That's love.
@Amelia's Cozy Corner It makes me so deeply sad that I can never fulfill that preference for someone not because I wouldn't love to dance but because I'm so beyond help terrible at it. As in rythm deaf, completely clumsy and unable to move in certain ways (like my hips just get stuck). My partner enjoys dancing so much and I just panic even when trying to slow dance.
I sincerely want to find me a man who will dance with me whenever. That is real life relationship goals for me right there.
@itsjustlarkspur Finally the Disney/League of Legends crossover we were waiting for
I remember wishing my boyfriend would dance with me. Multiple relationships, nobody wanted to dance. Finally, my boyfriend invited me to dance with him, spontaneously, and I couldn’t believe how wonderful it was. He’s now my husband, and we dance whenever we get the chance. ❤️
@itsjustlarkspur Stop it so did I lmao
I always loved The Addams Family (the franchise and characters) cuz they reminded me of our family. Not Gomez and Morticia's relationship since Mom was a single mother but she's been a goth girl since she was a teen in the 90s so our decorations were usually bought around halloween and we had a collection of weapon replicas on the wall. Papaw's a chill country man so his thoughts are "as long as the farm's getting taken care of I'll go along with anything. Here daughter, I found this deer skull out by the creek you can hang it with the others over the baby's headboard"
I thought the joke for The Addams Family and The Munsters was that they were a normal happy family that somehow got all these miserable neighbors but refused to become miserable like them to fit in. I was not prepared to go to preschool and find out *we* were the weird ones lmao
I was showing my boyfriend this video because they're my ultimate favorite couple and how the family makes me very happy and how healthy the whole family is. He had the audacity to tell me they're unhealthily infatuated with each other and how it's unfair I hold him to that standard. I'm like wtf. So I sent him this video. Now he loves that couple as much as I do.
Gomez and Morticia’s love is so beautifully mutual in how much they both clearly like, adore, and support each other.
Please do the parent trap! Just watched the 1998 one with my kid and all I can think about is the damage those parents must have caused those children by separating them.
Morticia and Gomez are without a doubt relationship goals. I want love like that. The beauty is, it's not an unrealistic achievement to obtain.
I love the Addams Family because they're creepy and they're kooky, but they're not toxic. They love each other
YES!!
@Mona Bohamad2 If you love the Twilight movies or books, I'm not going to try and take that away from you. But don't model your relationship on Edward's and Bella's. It's not a good idea.
@Anime Huntress
"ToXiCiTy" shmoxicity
They are passionate.
Let's not lie, we all wanted a marriage like theirs, still do! Absolutely fabulous😂
Something I wanted to point out about Morticia wanting to solve a problem for Gomez is also that it isn't that she wants to stop his behavior, like it isn't "His trains are such a mess I must make him stop playing with them" but rather, she (and the whole family) realize that his playing with them indicates he is upset and therefore she wants to help him fix what is making him upset because she wants him to be happy.
I am probably pointing this out in a clunky way, but I just mean that some people might be like, "I hate when you mope around the house, it's annoying" and want them to solve their problem to curb the annoying behavior. I sort of see it as the difference between a parent who helps their upset child regulate their emotions by walking through what is wrong and helping them take deep breaths and hugs them because they want them to calm down and feel better, rather than those who are like, "Stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about" because they don't want a scene.
The Addams family have been relationship goals ever since I first watched the films! 😍 The more I watch it, the more I realise they are amazing together. They have so much fun and really live up to "growing old disgracefully"! 😂
I’m very pleasantly surprised at how well Morticia and Gomez display a healthy marriage! Also, a lot of the advice they gave were really insightful tips you don’t typically hear. I like how Alan and John look past the surface creepy things the Adams do and get to the heart of why they have such a strong family/marriage! Fantastic video!
The chemistry between you two would've been a prime example of a perfect marriage 💑
One of the funniest parts of Addams Family Values is when Morticia says to Debbie "You have placed Fester under some sexual spell. I respect that. But really Debbie? Pastels?"
@Lorn Baker uh oh, looks like I'm on the naughty list then o.O
I agree! That was hilarious!
“I can forgive that” after listing a bunch of other stuff she did to fester.
So accepting and forgiving but will never give anyone with pastels a second chance
Very iconic line..
@Michiru Kaioh not pastels though, her pink is way to saturated
Gomez and Morticia are a example of what a healthy relationship looks like.
Another thing that could be noted is that both Gomez and Mortricia appreciate themselves, know who they are and are secure about their identuty. If one starts backing in that sense, the other is there to encourage them. But you also have to have a sense of being happy with yourself so you can know what qualities of yours you wish to retain in every second of a relationship with another person so you don't fall back and end up being stepped on(in case a person doesn't end up being what they promised though I'm mostly speaking for fast relationships in this case when people are at the beginning of everything)
You guys probably don't cover TV shows, but Bluey has been on my mind since I started watching it because of just how healthy the family dynamic is, and it would be interesting to hear an analysis of it