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"The Future of Freedom" Dr. Jordan Peterson & Ben Shapiro conversing in Jerusalem

  • Жарияланды 2023 ж. 28 Нау.

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  • gert mulder
    gert mulder 2 ай бұрын +68

    One of the best “performances” I have seen from both Ben and Jordon. So much comes together in this talk/event, the essence of Jordan and Ben’s work really came out in this one, with the people present and in the location of the talk. שלום על כולכם

  • Jocelyn Peach
    Jocelyn Peach 2 ай бұрын +19

    Wow! Such an incredible event and I am so thankful you posted this! I felt as though I was there in Jerusalem! Yes, let us make peace in our homes and then we can make peace in the world... Gratitude is the beginning of reconciliation. So good!

  • Hakton
    Hakton 15 күн бұрын +2

    The mutual respect JP and Ben have for each other is a very pleasant and inspiring experience. Two exceptionally gift intellectuals of modern world. 🙏

  • Jason Johnson
    Jason Johnson Ай бұрын +14

    More and more, whenever I hear JBP speak. I wish that he and Thomas Sowell would have an extended, long form conversation on everything that comes up…before the possibility is lost forever. Four hours would still be too brief for the meeting of such deep thinking, reasoned minds. This has been an outstanding upload here. 👏🙏✌️

    • James Love-Vani
      James Love-Vani Ай бұрын +1

      @Innocent David Uloko Sowell is a scientist.
      Peterson is an entertainer.

    • Innocent David Uloko
      Innocent David Uloko Ай бұрын +2

      @James Lowe there will be so much value synthesized from the two meeting , while Sowell will tell us from an economic point of view and how that lie of racism has persisted for so long , Jordan will dig in deeply into the medical , psychological and social pollution that the academia has poured into the souls of the coming generations .. They are both scientists and social construction workers if u like ! 👍

    • Innocent David Uloko
      Innocent David Uloko Ай бұрын

      Men .. What a great idea!!! 🤗

    • Jason Johnson
      Jason Johnson Ай бұрын +3

      @James Love-Vani I’d like a long form conversation between the two, not some kind of contentious debate.

    • James Love-Vani
      James Love-Vani Ай бұрын +3

      Sowell would mop the floor with JBP.
      Sowell has gone literally DECADES without any contradiction in any of his work.
      JBP can sometimes make it as much as 30 minutes.
      I'm a fan of both, for what its worth.

  • janell chen
    janell chen 2 ай бұрын +15

    I wished the Q&A section was much longer..to me, that was the best part of this conference. Loved the insights about gratitude and regarding speaking the truth. Thank you for putting this online for free. :)

  • OfTheDifference
    OfTheDifference Ай бұрын +4

    Thank you for uploading this meeting of the minds - I learned so much. Gratitude is a quality we must hold, and in today's world it is easy to do. Just look around you and you are bound to see others who are less fortunate than you - however minimal, be grateful for what you do have instead of dwelling in negativity for what you don't have.

  • Joshua Herbert
    Joshua Herbert 2 ай бұрын +8

    Simply amazing!
    Thank you Dr Jordon Peterson!
    Thank you Sir Ben Shapiro!
    Your words are profound and breath of fresh air. May God of the Bible and of Torah, protect you both!

  • Dali Bo Furnell
    Dali Bo Furnell Ай бұрын +1

    This is revolutionary, revelatory, riveting and real. I'm eternally grateful. God bless your hearts

  • Heinrich Drewes
    Heinrich Drewes 2 ай бұрын +51

    Thanks Ben and Dr Peterson… The Truth must always inspire us to better ourselves…
    Thank you

  • Karen Kimsey
    Karen Kimsey Ай бұрын +4

    Amazing, and I appreciated the very specific conversations with the audience. The stuff visions are made of!

  • ker sim
    ker sim 2 ай бұрын +21

    So good to hear such a loud NO! to the Coved abuse that has been thrust upon the peoples of so many countries.

  • Tomboy Warrior
    Tomboy Warrior Ай бұрын +8

    Woah, I was going to listen to this while doing some stuff, but now I'm gonna separate a time to watch this with very much focus! Only 4 minutes of Ben talking about the Torah was enough to me make that decision.

  • Susana Silberman
    Susana Silberman 2 ай бұрын +10

    I did not want this conversation to end!! i will have to hear it again. Thank you all for this oportunity, Dr. Peterson i am a permanent follower of your conversations, as well as Ben's. I think that it is very important for the Israeli society to have this kind of profound political, phylosophical, and psycological open space. I found the question of parennting and the question of The Canadian Woman on how not to let this vaccination non sence , happen again as the most important questions. Thank You All!!

  • Kimvan Pelon
    Kimvan Pelon 2 ай бұрын +21

    We love you Mr. Peterson. You are truly a gift from God.
    Sending prayers and well wishes to you ❤️❤️🙏🙏

  • Betty MacLennan
    Betty MacLennan 2 ай бұрын +22

    Two men I so highly respect. May God protect them in all ways.

  • Joshua Hernandez
    Joshua Hernandez Ай бұрын +11

    Dr. Jordan Peterson emotion made me cry along with him. That was very powerful. Love is powerful.

    • Joshua Hernandez
      Joshua Hernandez 25 күн бұрын +1

      @Melissa Richter He’s one of my new favorite dudes. I never really heard of him until recently. I learn something new from this man each time I listen to his podcasts and share them often.

    • Melissa Richter
      Melissa Richter 28 күн бұрын +1

      His passion is contagious.

  • Totty Mommy
    Totty Mommy 2 ай бұрын +7

    אם רק היו עוד ענקים כאלה בעולם . נפלא ביותר.

    • Hanagloria Edelblum
      Hanagloria Edelblum 2 ай бұрын +2

      אחראיות לכולם לדבר רק אמת. לא רק הענקים. שתייה שפה של אמת, מבול, צונאמי של אמת לכסות את כל העולם!

  • negev cinnamon
    negev cinnamon 2 ай бұрын +19

    נושא חשוב בתקופה כזו!! רק שהאמת תמיד תהיה איתנו.

  • Milan
    Milan 2 ай бұрын +16

    Wow stunned by this speech! Pray for this world

  • Tiempo Nuevo
    Tiempo Nuevo Ай бұрын +1

    Ok this is it. I'm going to have to go through all the videos of Peterson that I can.... with a note book, a pen and marginal notes. I've been listening but I want to absorb.... and also think and have questions and more answers. 75... still growing! Love these minds of our time. Peterson, my greatest hero. God has blessed us all with some REAL heroes. I sure miss Dr. Zelenko who was too quickly removed from our realm.

  • skvetny
    skvetny 2 ай бұрын +19

    איזה כיף, תודה רבה על האוויר הזה לנפש 😊

  • Karen Kline
    Karen Kline 2 ай бұрын +16

    Wow. I was quite concerned and disappointed that they weren't going to let Mr. Peterson answer that last question about the vaccine mandates. . I'm so glad that the audience persisted in demanding that he gets the chance to answer.

    • Andy Bluemanstrauss
      Andy Bluemanstrauss Ай бұрын +1

      True. Very strange interruption by moderator. Obviously he was remote controlled and panicking!

  • Captain Kawar
    Captain Kawar 2 ай бұрын +2

    As a fan and a follower for both speakers, I am waiting to see a new way of approaching a better outcome not just with your fans, but with your opponents. They both have the ability to bring together more people from the Jewish, Christian and Muslim sides by bypassing the politicized religious rhetoric of all sides and reach out to the thinking minds and family loving people to create a powerful peace leading to real international life.

  • Carter Mitchell
    Carter Mitchell Ай бұрын +6

    As always, Dr. Peterson ruins my day...by forcing me to think. He continues to force us to face the uncomfortable truth that freedom - true freedom - means taking responsibility and facing that responsibility. It's very likely that this is why the possibility of freedom is so terrifying to so many, who try to stamp it out wherever it is found. What a challenge to overcome.

  • Gramma DRM
    Gramma DRM 2 ай бұрын +7

    God Bless this young man for all that he does for America and the world!!

  • Ja Me
    Ja Me Ай бұрын +1

    Ben is a phenomenal human being

  • Zara
    Zara Ай бұрын +2

    Dang this looks like the real progress I haven’t seen in a decade we’ve been missing.

  • kantraxo ikol
    kantraxo ikol 2 ай бұрын +6

    you know its real truth if whatever they say applies to you , me, and everyone else, no matter what religion they follow or place they live

  • María Teresa Serrano López
    María Teresa Serrano López 2 ай бұрын +1

    Finalmente han funcionado los subtítulos. Excelente exposición de ambos y buena intervención del embajador.

  • Totty Mommy
    Totty Mommy 2 ай бұрын +3

    תודה על דברי אלוקים חיים . משב רוח תחייה לכולם. ה' יברך אותכם בכל. אוהבים אותכם.

  • Dane Muma
    Dane Muma 2 ай бұрын

    The timing of going through the moediem and gaining wisdom and purity in a hurting world. Life is apparent to the light that has magnifide

  • Gail Hill
    Gail Hill Ай бұрын +2

    Great job, Dr. Peterson.

  • Vicki Tallant
    Vicki Tallant 2 ай бұрын +5

    Really enjoyed this,their very intelligent men 👍👏👏👏Loved it

  • David Clemens
    David Clemens 2 ай бұрын +20

    It doesn't get much better than these two heroes of truth, leading the way! Shining stars of hope, for this broken world!

    • Hanagloria Edelblum
      Hanagloria Edelblum 2 ай бұрын +1

      Agreed! I would include Milton Friedman in your accolades.

  • Dane Muma
    Dane Muma 2 ай бұрын +6

    Wisdom at its finest Shalom my friends

  • Lynne DiGrandi
    Lynne DiGrandi Ай бұрын

    Just wonderful!

  • Oxana Leo
    Oxana Leo 2 ай бұрын +5

    jordan ,we are on your side .THANK YOU for standing there for all l of us Thank you

  • Darrell I
    Darrell I 2 ай бұрын +6

    Thoughts to ponder. Blessings to Israel from Canada!

  • Ramon Arellano
    Ramon Arellano 2 ай бұрын +6

    Ben's speech gave me the goose pumps. I guess its all about Yehovah really!

  • Ken Lane
    Ken Lane 2 ай бұрын +3

    Wow .. good versus evil can't be more ominous today than it's ever been in the history of mankind. If we were to get things right, then we can't describe the results in a good way. If we get this wrong, then the hell we will produce, will be beyond comprehension. Mankind again I presume, is at the highest point of decision that can't be trifled with. Good luck, we've never been good at holding the most important things of life together.

  • Vilecypher
    Vilecypher 2 ай бұрын

    I was just thinking about the first question in the Q&A. Could it have been the less grateful attitude a part of the mechanics in having a better world than the past?

  • R. Mitchell
    R. Mitchell 2 ай бұрын +4

    I enjoyed this immensely!

  • Gilad Drori
    Gilad Drori 2 ай бұрын +9

    תודה רבה על הפרסום!

  • orenjuice100
    orenjuice100 2 ай бұрын +12

    איזה כיף היה להיות שם
    נהניתי מכל רגע

    • orenjuice100
      orenjuice100 Ай бұрын

      @Totty Mommy לפני כמעט חצי שנה

    • Totty Mommy
      Totty Mommy 2 ай бұрын

      מתי זה היה לא כל פעם התאריך ביוטיוב נכון .

  • Guy Shaddock
    Guy Shaddock 2 ай бұрын +24

    Jordan, the world needs you right now. You are the lens that enables us to see things….the way they really are,… so we can navigate the chaos.

    • Amber Green
      Amber Green Ай бұрын +1

      @Tom Jaap he is...and he THINKS that people hearing Jordan Peterson would be beneficial to ALL! The issue with this world is not only are most not willing/able to think for themselves, and more importantly trust the main stream media...which is WRONGGGG! So people HEARING Jordan Peterson could be very eye opening, maybe enough to wake some?!? ❤❤❤

    • Guy Shaddock
      Guy Shaddock 2 ай бұрын +2

      @Tom Jaap Exactly. Be accountable for your own actions. Take responsibility for your own destiny. Try to make your time on this earth a benefit to humanity. Learn to think for yourself.

    • Tom Jaap
      Tom Jaap 2 ай бұрын

      Maybe try thinking for yourself

    • Gary Weidemann
      Gary Weidemann 2 ай бұрын +3

      "...navigate the chaos." What a great description you have intellectually described...great job. Keep up the great work.

  • Zhippy
    Zhippy 2 ай бұрын +4

    How does this have so few views?! This was perhaps THE best program I have witnessed in an entire decade!

    • Ruby Brentlinger
      Ruby Brentlinger Ай бұрын

      Don't worry the world is listening because of people like us who won't stop letting them know about men like Jordan and Lord Black another great man!

  • Amen Amen
    Amen Amen 2 ай бұрын +4

    That was so AMAZING GUYS!!!!
    I LOVE YOU Israel!!!!

  • estervitkon
    estervitkon 2 ай бұрын +7

    נפלא!! יש תקווה

  • R F
    R F 2 ай бұрын +6

    It would be wise to thank Prime Minister Netanyahu, as well as President Donald J. Trump for the prophetic role they play for the future of Israel 🇮🇱 AMEN

  • Mateo
    Mateo  2 ай бұрын +3

    Big respect from Colombia 🇨🇴

    • game  nat
      game nat Ай бұрын

      From Canada 🇨🇦 👋

  • zoya black
    zoya black Ай бұрын

    “It’s time for us to make our axioms explicit” - brilliant !!
    I’d like to posit a candidate: “more life is more better”
    What best supports life? Wealth
    To be more virtuous, be more fruitful.

  • Tikvah99
    Tikvah99 2 ай бұрын +4

    I called one of my cats Tikvah - he proved a great conversation starter & enabled me to talk about Israel & its importance in the world. Great conference.

  • SqrlGrl
    SqrlGrl Ай бұрын +3

    Just the best. I am grateful to have been able to watch. Am Y'Israel Chai

  • E Briggs
    E Briggs 2 ай бұрын

    Love the fist speaker talking about the Durban conference! They have frightfully succeeded!

  • אבי אהרוני
    אבי אהרוני 2 ай бұрын +7

    בבקשה,שימו תרגום.זה נראה מרתתק,אך אין לי יכות להיות מרותקת,כי איני מבינה אנגלית באמה בה אוכל להבין את הנאמר.בטוחני שישנם עוד רבים וטובים כמוני.

    • קרן תקווה
      קרן תקווה  2 ай бұрын

      תודה רבה על התגובה.
      כדי להפעיל את הכתוביות בעברית שהוספנו לסרטון יש ללחוץ על כפתור הכתוביות בסרגל התחתון של הסרטון ולבחור את השפה הרצויה.

  • Cindy Bates
    Cindy Bates 2 ай бұрын +17

    We need the light of Christ and it’s up to us to be the light!

  • David Hunt
    David Hunt Ай бұрын

    *_Truth resides in every human heart, and one has to search for it there, and to be guided by truth as one sees it. But no one has a right to coerce others to act according to his own view of truth._*
    ~ Mahatma Gandhi
    *_Human beings are perhaps never more frightening than when they are convinced beyond doubt that they are right._*
    ~ Laurens van der Post

  • Aztec King
    Aztec King 2 ай бұрын


  • Lee Sorenson
    Lee Sorenson 2 ай бұрын +2

    To whom we are greatfull? The fact that we are greatfull proves his goodness. 👋

  • Jason Brethauer
    Jason Brethauer 2 ай бұрын +1

    Wow thank you all so very much!

  • Anna Michael Krista
    Anna Michael Krista 2 ай бұрын +3

    "For when culture advances overfast, when material achievement outruns the evolution of worship-wisdom, then does civilization contain within itself the seeds of retrogression; and unless buttressed by the swift augmentation of experiential wisdom, such human societies will recede from high but premature levels of attainment, and the “dark ages” of the interregnum of wisdom will bear witness to the inexorable restoration of the imbalance between self-liberty and self-control." The Urantia Book, Paper 118, Section 8. Thank you and God bless you!

  • klgamit
    klgamit 2 ай бұрын +1

    The best way to deal with idiotic ideas is to let them wither away, I don't think there's a reason to make a big fuss about them. Especially in an age where we don't know what real fuss is vs. fake fuss (way too easy to create fake fuss via the social media...)

  • Yohana Anailê
    Yohana Anailê Ай бұрын +1

    Should have been longer 🙏

  • Terri Perry
    Terri Perry 2 ай бұрын +31

    These men are truly intelligent ; incredible to listen to their conversations.

    • Innocent David Uloko
      Innocent David Uloko Ай бұрын

      Imagine if they put me in that seat with them .. I won't even know what to ask them .. They are simply out of this world

  • dmcg Whisper
    dmcg Whisper 2 ай бұрын +2

    Very good!

  • Elke Summer
    Elke Summer 2 ай бұрын +1

    These men are incredible thinkers and conversationalists. . Now if only they would openly support Tough guy Trump to actually get things Done!!

  • Eileen Gascoyne
    Eileen Gascoyne Ай бұрын +1

    We need to believe in the teachings of the Lord to become a better man and woman this has been taken out of our society and many are lost

  • AD303
    AD303 2 ай бұрын +2

    אחלה סרטון

  • Andy Bluemanstrauss
    Andy Bluemanstrauss Ай бұрын

    Great event. And strange move by the moderator to interrupt the event before the last question got an answer 2:10:00

  • Tangent Quo
    Tangent Quo 2 ай бұрын +3


  • Bar Harris
    Bar Harris 27 күн бұрын


  • Chris Bevan
    Chris Bevan 29 күн бұрын

    They both speak very eloquently to the problems we face today - but they don't fully understand how the Name of the Most High is made manifest in the world.
    Jordan, at the very least, should have this understanding by now - considering he appreciates the function of society and the essence of subjective perspective.

  • Syneeda Penland
    Syneeda Penland Ай бұрын


  • JasonPilley
    JasonPilley Ай бұрын

    Talking sense on covid. Shame they didn't say it when it needed to be said though.

    TAL AZULAY 2 ай бұрын +4

    Love Jordan and ben god bless you and your family’s

  • Dumitru Baruta
    Dumitru Baruta 2 ай бұрын +2

    We will see in the Golden City in the New Jerusalem, where the tears and all the pain will be no more... The Golden City is the first building block of our Western civilisation. Psychologically the most powerful archetype against the fear of death

    • rdutch
      rdutch 2 ай бұрын +1

      ?? Do you fart in your coffee before you drink it?

  • Linda Griffiths
    Linda Griffiths Ай бұрын

    Make Peace in your home! (Your Heart 💜) wherever you are in the world 🙏🌏🌎🌍🙏
    Our Bee 🐝 U-ti-ful planet needs our attention inside & out! Observe! See 🌊 👀 🌊
    Bee 🐝 the glorious infinitely diverse/complex/awesomeness! that you are!
    Don't label your form,
    Bee 🐝 the essence! ☯️ core! Expression of tao/god within and Bee 🐝 Bee 🐝 uty!
    Purple heart's 💜💜 to Jordan & Ben for an inspirational! advocational 'ReSponse-ibility'
    En-Lighenment! 🙏💡🙏
    May your word's & work reach every heart ❤+💙 of any hue and help it become 💜 the
    Bee 🐝 ingness and Bee 🐝 uty you shared so eloquently. 💡💡 Bless you both 🙏 🙏

  • Andrew Walker
    Andrew Walker 2 ай бұрын +2

    This is why the powers to be don’t like these two truth warriors,they are scared people will be educated and rebel against the elite.
    We need leaders like Ben and Jordan and like minded scholars,not instalments of the state or government.
    I’m great full for their endeavours to set the record straight

  • Davma Theophilus
    Davma Theophilus 2 ай бұрын +2

    Jordan, in regards to how the cannon of Christian sacred books came together as the Bible, there's a universe of difference between "...the human imagination and divine Providence, take your choice." If there are Christians listening to this, that statement from JP and his moralistic summaries of the main ideas of Old Testament narratives indicates he isn't operating from the position of a converted man.
    Broken clocks are right twice in twenty four hours.

  • Ja Me
    Ja Me Ай бұрын


  • Dr. Edward Freeman
    Dr. Edward Freeman 2 ай бұрын +1

    21:35 The first truth on the list (that God is one) is reachable by reason alone. Abraham came to this conclusion by reason alone long before the smoke and trumpets, and so did Spinoza long after.
    29:19 "There is nothing new under the sun." If this is not an outright denial of historical progress, then nothing is.

  • guymfalkon 123
    guymfalkon 123 Ай бұрын +1

    It was so heartwarming seeing the crowd get up on their feet yelling and fanboying for Mr. Peterson, you could almost feel the love he was getting through the screen.

  • Ja Me
    Ja Me Ай бұрын


  • Homer62001
    Homer62001 2 ай бұрын

    Poor JBP has really aged

  • JPwarlord
    JPwarlord Ай бұрын

    I sat through the opening comments, just in case I start speaking in tongues.

  • Carter Mitchell
    Carter Mitchell Ай бұрын +2

    And then I listened to Ben talking about getting rid of the regulations and taxes: I suspect that if you do that, you'll face immigration pressure that would be difficult to manage. The reason everyone wants to come here is that - unbelievably - we are among the least taxed and regulated. That doesn't say good things about the rest of the world, and we are working mightily to destroy that advantage. But Ben is absolutely right. The U.S. became a world power it was the freest nation on Earth at one time, and as that changes you see our declining fortunes.

    • Mike Get
      Mike Get Ай бұрын

      @Carter Mitchell your comment would not be made by a kindergartener.

    • Carter Mitchell
      Carter Mitchell Ай бұрын

      @Mike Get Again, generalities rather than something concrete. THAT is “kindergarten” thinking

    • Carter Mitchell
      Carter Mitchell Ай бұрын

      @Mike Get I'd like to understand what your actual thoughts are about it. We're NOT the freest nation? We ARE the freest nation? So far all you've done is some name-calling. Do you have anything substantive to say? What do you consider "the likes of me"? From your limited diatribe, it doesn't appear that you understand what my beliefs are. I certainly can't guess what yours are. Can you expand?

  • Alison Thomson
    Alison Thomson Ай бұрын

    I see how prejudice these round table meetings are when Dr Peterson is called “ Jordon “ ( very disrespectful in Britain ti call one in a public situation by one’s first name ) and is told to “ stop the hand movements “ ( also calling attention to his body movements meaning this is the focus versus what Dr Peterson is saying …likely because Fr Peterson is a successful while male “ . Also his verbiage is pinpointed asked “ what do you mean is it not a real thing ?” because all these people have already “ abstracted “ “ racism “ in their minds . “British society” referring to these “ bleeding heart liberally minded people “is and seems the problem their quest

  • Theckla Garcia
    Theckla Garcia 2 ай бұрын


  • David Hunt
    David Hunt Ай бұрын

    *_While Liberty is never Utopian, it is always Melioristic,.._* but that can *never* be good enough for the _left,.._ and so the world *burns!*
    ~ Me, I say this

    *_Liberty is always dangerous, but it is the safest thing we have._*
    ~ Harry Emerson Fosdick

    *_Liberty is the only thing you cannot have unless you are willing to give it to others._*
    ~ William Allen White

    *_The love of liberty is the love of others; the love of power is the love of ourselves._*
    ~ William Hazlitt

    _Where _*_love rules,_*_ there is no will to power, and where _*_power_*_ predominates, love is lacking. The one is the _*_shadow_*_ of the other._
    ~ Carl Jung

    *_Where men cannot freely convey their thoughts to one another, no other liberty is secure._*
    ~ William E. Hocking

    *_Liberty is meaningless where the right to utter one's thoughts and opinions has ceased to exist. That, of all rights, is the dread of tyrants. It is the right which they first of all strike down._*
    ~ Frederick Douglass

    *_It is important to remember, as has well been said, 'the essential characteristic of true liberty is that under its shelter many different types of life and character and opinion and belief can develop unmolested and unobstructed.'_*
    ~ Charles Evans Hughes

    *_Liberty is the solution of all social and economic questions._*
    ~ Joseph Labadie

    *_Liberty is always unfinished business._*
    ~ American Civil Liberties Union

    *_Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual._*
    ~ Thomas Jefferson

    *_The boisterous sea of liberty is never without a wave._*
    ~ Thomas Jefferson

    *_Where liberty is, there is my country._*
    ~ Benjamin Franklin

    *_Liberty is one of the choicest gifts that heaven hath bestowed upon man, and exceeds in value all the treasures which the earth contains within its bosom, or the sea covers. Liberty, as well as honor, man ought to preserve at the hazard of his life, for without it life is insupportable._*
    ~ Cervantes

    *_Liberty is not merely a privilege to be conferred; it is a habit to be acquired._*
    ~ David Lloyd George

    *_Liberty is not a right but a duty._*
    ~ Ezra Pound

    *_The true character of liberty is independence, maintained by force._*
    ~ Voltaire

    *_The inescapable price of liberty is an ability to preserve it from destruction._*
    ~ Douglas MacArthur

    *_The saddest epitaph which can be carved in memory of a vanished liberty is that it was lost because its possessors failed to stretch forth a saving hand while yet there was time._*
    ~ George Sutherland

    *_The true test of liberty is the right to test it, the right to question it, the right to speak to my neighbors, to grab them by the shoulders and look into their eyes and ask, 'Are we free?' I have thought that if we are free, the answer cannot hurt us. And if we are not free, must we not hear the answer?_*
    ~ Gerry Spence

    *_The fact is that the average man's love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth._*
    ~ H.L. Mencken

    *_[The average man] is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty,... and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies._*
    ~ H.L. Mencken

    *_I believe that liberty is the only genuinely valuable thing that men have invented, at least in the field of government, in a thousand years. I believe that it is better to be free than to be not free, even when the former is dangerous and the latter safe. I believe that the finest qualities of man can flourish only in free air ~ that progress made under the shadow of the policeman's club is false progress, and of no permanent value. I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another into his keeping is bound to become a tyrant, and that any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the measure, is bound to become a slave._*
    ~ H.L. Mencken

    *_One of the qualities of liberty is that, as long as it is being striven after, it goes on expanding. Therefore, the man who stands in the midst of the struggle and says, 'I have it,' merely shows by doing so that he has just lost it._*
    ~ Henrik Ibsen

    *_Liberty is to the collective body what health is to every individual body. Without health no pleasure can be tasted by man; without liberty, no happiness can be enjoyed by society._*
    ~ Henry St. John

    *_Liberty is the soul's right to breathe and, when it cannot take a long breath, laws are girdled too tight._*
    ~ Henry Ward Beecher

    *_Liberty is the possibility of doubting, the possibility of making a mistake, the possibility of searching and experimenting, the possibility of saying “No” to any authority -- literary, artistic, philosophic, religious, social and even political._*
    ~ Ignazio Silone

    *_The first step in saving our liberty is to realize how much we have already lost, how we lost it, and how we will continue to lose it unless fundamental political changes occur._*
    ~ James Bovard

    *_A day, an hour, of virtuous liberty Is worth a whole eternity in bondage._*
    ~ Joseph Addison

    *_Life without liberty is like a body without spirit._*
    ~ Kahlil Gibran

    *_Liberty is not a cruise ship full of pampered passengers. Liberty is a man-of-war, and we are all crew._*
    ~ Kenneth W. Royce

    *_Political liberty is nothing else but the diffusion of power._*
    ~ Lord Hailsham

    *_Liberty is rendered even more precious by the recollection of servitude._*
    ~ Marcus Tullius Cicero

    *_Americans have the mistaken viewpoint that Lady Liberty is only a peacetime luxury who is ill-equipped to fight the nasties. Therefore, they reason, we need an equally nasty Big Brother. Americans have forgotten that Lady Liberty is one ferocious mother when protecting her children._*
    ~ Mary Ruwart

    *_Liberty is one of the most precious gifts which heaven has bestowed on man; with it we cannot compare the treasures which the earth contains or the sea conceals; for liberty, as for honor, we can and ought to risk our lives; and, on for the other hand, captivity is the greatest evil that can befall man._*
    ~ Miguel de Cervantes

    *_Liberty is a slow fruit._*
    ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

    *_What light is to the eyes - what air is to the lungs - what love is to the heart, liberty is to the soul of man._*
    ~ Robert G. Ingersoll

    *_The spirit of liberty is not merely, as multitudes imagine, a jealousy of our own particular rights, but a respect for the rights of others, and an unwillingness that any man, whether high or low, should be wronged and trampled under foot._*
    ~ William Ellery Channing

    *_The truth is that men are tired of liberty._*
    ~ Benito Mussolini

    *_It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed._*
    ~ Vladimir Ilich Lenin

    • David Hunt
      David Hunt Ай бұрын

      *_A free man is as jealous of his responsibilities as he is of his liberties._*
      ~ Cyril James

      *_Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it._*
      ~ George Bernard Shaw

      *_[On ancient Athens]: In the end, more than freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all - security, comfort, and freedom. When the Athenians finally wanted not to give to society but for society to give to them, when the freedom they wished for most was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free and was never free again._*
      ~ Edward Gibbon

      *_Government does not grow by seizing our freedoms, but by assuming our responsibilities._*
      ~ Michael Cloud

      *_It is indeed a singular thing that people wish to pass laws to nullify the disagreeable consequences that the law of responsibility entails. Will they never realize that they do not eliminate these consequences but merely pass them along to other people? The result is one injustice the more and one moral the less._*
      ~ Frederic Bastiat

      *_Then what is freedom? It is the will to be responsible to ourselves._*
      ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

      *_The essential psychological requirement of a free society is the willingness on the part of the individual to accept responsibility for his life._*
      ~ Edith Packer

      *_The real freedom of any individual can always be measured by the amount of responsibility which he must assume for his own welfare and security._*
      ~ Robert Welch

      *_.. the sense of meaning that life can provide to you, is proportionate to the amount of responsibility you decide to take on.._*
      ~ Jordan Peterson

      *_If you are not free to choose wrongly and irresponsibly, you are not free at all._*
      ~ Jacob Hornberger

      *_Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for almost all the economic growth in the United States._*
      ~ Ronald Reagan

      *_Any doctrine that weakens personal responsibility for judgment and for action helps create the attitudes that welcome and support the totalitarian state._*
      ~ John Dewey

      *_The great escape of our times is escape from personal responsibility for the consequences of one's own behavior._*
      ~ Thomas Sowell

      *_The vision of the anointed is one in which ills as poverty, irresponsible sex, and crime derive primarily from 'society,' rather than from individual choices and behavior. To believe in personal responsibility would be to destroy the whole special role of the anointed, whose vision casts them in the role of rescuers of people treated unfairly by 'society'._*
      ~ Thomas Sowell

      *_We seem to be getting closer and closer to a situation where nobody is responsible for what they did but we are all responsible for what somebody else did._*
      ~ Thomas Sowell

      *_We are also responsible for our obedience!_*
      ~ Hannah Arendt

      *_The police can't stop an intruder, mugger, or stalker from hurting you. They can pursue him only after he has hurt or killed you. Protecting yourself from harm is your responsibility, and you are far less likely to be hurt in a neighborhood of gun-owners than in one of disarmed citizens - even if you don't own a gun yourself._*
      ~ Harry Browne

      *_The free market punishes irresponsibility. Government rewards it._*
      ~ Harry Browne

      *_The increasing dependence on the State is anything but a healthy symptom; it means that the whole nation is in a fair way to becoming a herd of sheep, constantly relying on a shepard to drive them into good pastures. The shepherd's staff soon becomes a rod of iron, and the shepherds turn into wolves... Any man who still possesses the instinct of self preservation knows perfectly well that only a swindler would offer to relieve him of responsibility, for surely no one in his senses would dream of taking responsibility for the existence of another. The man who promises everything is sure to fulfil nothing, and everyone who promises too much is in danger of using evil means in order to carry out his promises, and is already on the road to perdition._*
      ~ Carl Jung, CW 10, Para 413, _Civilization in Transition_

  • Robin Andersen
    Robin Andersen 2 ай бұрын +1

  • Tim Ward
    Tim Ward 2 ай бұрын

    It would be so much better if the words "left" and "right" weren't used to indicate two clusters of disparate positions as though the "right" is working only for truth, justice, and the American way and the "left" is working only for everything evil. One can be for capitalism but against wage slavery, for adequate public education funding but against LGBTQ indoctrination, for universal healthcare (such as every other major country on earth has) but against turning healthcare professionals into impoverished knaves. The entire discussion needs to shift away from useless terms that demonize huge groups of people before anyone can even explain or convey information. If the discussion stays on this path, what is to stop people from saying, "All Jews do evil things" or "All blacks are subhuman" or "All Moslems should be executed"? It's EXACTLY the same thought process as "The left says" and "The right says." If we could describe people of opposing positions as "people who ...", we'd live in a better world.

    • Tim Ward
      Tim Ward 2 ай бұрын

      @Tay Zk Hi Tazy Zk! I agree with you COMPLETELY. We are so far out of balance that I don't know whether we'll ever be able to recover. In fact, I'm pretty sure we won't recover. We think simplistically because, frankly, we're not very bright collectively... and those who are bright (or are held up to us as bright) are often not honest or moral. And media manipulation and dumb-as-brick school teachers sure don't help. We actually need a spiritual reorientation and revolution, and we may have to go through hell to get it. You are right in pointing out that other countries are completely screwed up, but we in America can proudly say that we lead the way in pioneering new ways of fostering idiocy.
      Well, it has been coming a long time, and now too much power is in too few hands.

    • Tay Zk
      Tay Zk 2 ай бұрын

      @Tim Ward Yes, my problem with healthcare and education discussions is just that it's usually very surface level, ignoring all the important fundamental issues and just focusing on what I consider silly stuff like look at the european countries that have it! or the government shouldn't be able to decide for me!, schools need more funding or schools need less! America and most developed countries are completely screwed up in terms of both education and health, and we need a whole revolutionary change in peoples mindsets and values on a whole host of issues, we don't need to just "fix funding and be more like european countries" and not "return to the old american way, muh freedom and muh capitalism can do no wrong" either, when our countries and populations are sick to the core. Yes there are problems that can be described as capitalist/socialist problems in certain areas, but it's much deeper than that. I agree with your point about balance, we need a wholistic approach to get back in balance, if your body (society) is out of balance you need your whole body and the core moving to stabilize, no point focusing on one part here or one part there.

    • Tim Ward
      Tim Ward 2 ай бұрын

      @Tay Zk Hello Tay. I can agree that compulsion is important to use correctly and I don't disagree that we sometimes need to generalize and speak of general truths while recognizing exceptions. But if the dialogue were based on "What is right (or more right)?" and "What is wrong (or more wrong)?" and what can we do to preserve the best and eliminate the worst, we would be better off. Because evil and greed can be found among the rich AND the shrinking middle class and poor, between Christians and every other group, and between the hard-working/smart and lazy/stupid, we do need some legal compulsion - but what kind?
      Money is power, and government (when correctly constituted, which our government is not) can balance out the ill-effects of unbridled greed. So much depends on balance. Generally, the statistics regarding socialized medicine in European countries are much better than those of healthcare here. And that makes sense. In a country where 63% of people have less than $1,000 to deal with emergencies without borrowing, people are less likely to seek medical help when they have a $10,000 deductible or no insurance. And if you're having a heart attack, are you really going to make sure the hospital is and every doctor who treats you is in-network? Also, you never know what exactly is covered until they deny the claim. That's not a system working in the best interests of consumers. Capitalism only works when consumers have a true choice. Without choice, consumers are compeled by corporations to pay up or go bankrupt while those running the healthcare companies buy a second mansion or expensive toys. This is no way to run a moral economy.
      Anyhoo, I'm for as much freedom as possible in some sort of reasonable system. I'm for a free market that is REALLY a free market, not one where money generates money and there is no relation between merit and pay.

    • Tay Zk
      Tay Zk 2 ай бұрын

      One big problem with public education is all the compulsion embedded in it, compulsion to pay for it, compulsion to send your kids (some countries) etc and of course lgbtq and other forms of subversive elements creep in to such a compulsory and chaotic form of education. As well as the compulsion in universal healthcare is a problem and hasn't been a great solution in these other major countries. Not that compulsion is always wrong, but it's very important to use correctly.
      Yes I agree one can be for the good parts of "capitalism" and reject evils like usury etc. However we need to be able to generalize and speak of general truths while also recognizing exceptions

  • Child of The One True King
    Child of The One True King 2 ай бұрын

    fantastic, except why did Jordan leave out the Story of Christ which he always points to as Jesus being the the highest possible good.

    • Eliana Weiss Rosenberg
      Eliana Weiss Rosenberg 2 ай бұрын

      Because he doesn't want to aggravate the audience. If he will mention Jesus to Jewish people will stop listening

  • Jak Mihoff
    Jak Mihoff 9 күн бұрын

    Talking to Ben Shapiro is like talking to a wall 😂

  • Eric (ex-PiPi)
    Eric (ex-PiPi) Ай бұрын

    If only Ben followed what he just said, this was a great talk but Ben Shapiro is still a rage bait broker, he has much less talks like this vs rage bait brokerism to enduce emotion and rage. So it’s conflicting if he can make more talks like this, why he would resort to exploit and farm by making low brow and stimulating content based on hate. He should follow his own talk, I still think he primarily spreads negativity and should shift towards more Olympian talks that unite whereas he generally divides to gain influence and make money. Still not a fan but a shame he’s capable of giving a talk like this but does the easier and sinful path of farming the algorithm

  • lee dufour
    lee dufour 2 ай бұрын


  • Strifelord
    Strifelord 2 ай бұрын +2

    Discussing freedom in Jerusalem is like discussing happiness in a cemetery

  • Bruce Gill
    Bruce Gill 2 ай бұрын

    Minute nine isn’t it nice like in a church you can’t interrupt anybody or play they can just say anything they want then you have to process it afterwards what’s beautiful about the Internet as you can interrupt but you’re not really interrupting because it was already done before you even saw it so now you can finally put your two cents worth in is there incorruptibility mind does it have the foresight to see something beautiful in the future and it’s because of the pharmaceutical overhead Hey hey hey live for today and I understand that but that does that mean just take everything for that day I don’t care about the next well I think we missed some part it’s amazing how we focus under the one little Jott or total but you don’t see the whole story never ending story

  • That Guy No One Knows
    That Guy No One Knows Ай бұрын

    Yeah i'm gonna be real, I understand almost nothing in this.. my brain is very smooth

  • Tay Zk
    Tay Zk 2 ай бұрын

    Why does Jordan Peterson talk about the Truth being so important in rectifying the world, yet he will intentionally not speak certain truths and attack people as anti-semitic if they speak certain truths?

  • María Teresa Serrano López
    María Teresa Serrano López 2 ай бұрын +1

    No funcionan los subtítulos: por eso hay menos visualizaciones de las que corresponderían a este evento.