@Ilma Tuka it kinda makes sense though for hoyoverse to give us playable harbingers in orders of who can tell us the least accurate info about their comrades, to the most accurate. Scaramouche definitely knows more than Childe, but he’s arrogant and can’t allow himself to think he doesn’t truly understand something. Keep in mind, he didn’t even know that dotorre deceived him about his past just so he could be manipulated into serving them.
I always thought something was up when i heard how Childe was talking about The Rooster taking care of his family…this to me basically has mobster vibes… Do not forget that Scara with all his flaws is hundreds of years old and is no longer a naive and clueless puppet he was before and spent centuries with the Fatui… And yes, Scara is surprisingly honest when talking about a serious topic and not trying to be a menace
@PersonaMuyRandom Ajax dies before Teucer though, he commits suicide in all stories/plays involving his death I'm aware of. So in that regard him dying would make more sense, although they could also do something like with Wanderer (attempting to erase yourself from existance as well as the memory of everyone to ever exist is pretty much a suicide attempt).
@Atsyrc yes, either that or childe witnessing tuecer follow in his footsteps which he has done everything he can to prevent. As Childe wants to protect Tuecer so he doesn’t turn out like him. It’s going to be an either or and both scenarios are fantastic to me.
They've killed important, relevant playable characters in their games before, i wouldn't put it past them to kill a few more. Stories are more interesting when the protagonist struggles then grows from it anyway.
If Columbina makes Scaramouche of all people say “stay away from her” after roasting or being indifferent to every other Harbinger…that definitely is worrisome for the future
@Nishki yeah she is Rank 3, I don’t think you get that just by being cute. So she’s definitely one of the strongest Fatui, it just appears she’s not based on how sweet and innocent she looks
@Herrscher of the slay scara doesn't have a problem fighting her so I doubt she is the most powerful. I think her ability is to control the mind or generate illusion. For someone like the wanderer who only care about himself means nothing. But for us who are seeking for our twin may be dangerous
*Scaramouche talks in great detail about every Harbinger except Signora* Signora: Am I a joke to you?! Scaramouche: Yes you are, and I'm tired of pretending you are not.
@collei the headcanon was specifically on scaramouche's pov, not signiora's. And you can get shit talked on while still maybe recognizing that the other person's just as hurt in life as you are
@Tyrone Talam Remember when Signora called Scaramouche a "muddle headed puppet" and said being abused and tortured by Dottore doesn't make him an asset but is still all he's good for 💀💀💀
@Yune just look at scara and the doctor cutscenes that what signora should have been yes we saw her in 3 nations but its like she just went to inazuma and die
so basically scara is saying to us that our biggest weakness when facing Columbina is that we won't be able to bring ourselves to hurt her? and that Columbina can't feel and therefore won't have any hesitation?
@Catmixo Has it ever been confirmed the Hydro Archon is a Seele expy? I really doubt it since the Tsaritsa is supposedly Bronya, it makes sense to make them close.
@Alpiait can be possible that even tho we couldnt defeat scara 1 v 1 nahida helps us defeat him by using a loop so eventually there'll be someone to save the traveller
@Yuan Setiawan No Goddess of Flowers is also a seele and become a god of Sumeru along side with Rukkhedevata and Deshret but it doesn't mean she's stronger than Raiden Ei or Murata that literally a beast and slay other gods like popcorn.
@Peak well we are aware that they are somehow stronger than brute strength alone. Dottore with his knowledge and tactics. Pierre being a descendant of kaenryia who possibly has the same powers as Dain and has years/decades of experience.
@one piece ph You are definitely on to something. If she is a fallen angel like Lucifer. Maybe Enjou's prediction of Paimon betraying us might happen. After all, King Paimon is loyal to Lucifer. It would be kinda interesting if they added that in.
Probably be like Baldur from GoW, unable to feel pain. Really excited to mash her face in with Scara or with Childe if we ever convince him to leave the Harbingers.
“Unconcerned and unfeeling in any given situation” makes me feel like she’s going to be a psychopath (book definition), which would make me really excited to have a different type of character in genshin
The fact that Scaramouche was in the Abyss is so cool . And it makes sense why Jester would sent him there . After all as a puppet , he propably wouldn't end up like Childe
@Mikhail Abraham If you look at Childe you'll see he's the only Genshin character without light in his eyes. The Abyss messed him up mentally very bad. Honestly he's probably so bloodthirsty because it was the only way to survive what the Abyss was. The whole "kill or be killed." Being exposed to that as a young child for so long is sure to cause some serious mental issues
@KEP but he's gone crazy lol childe is downright sociopathic in certain situations and even though he has some ideals but he still doesn't seem to mind stepping over them to do what he's told to do
People think that the Wanderer is afraid of Columbina, what he meant was that it would be nigh-impossible for us to fight someone who looks so innocent and powerful at the same time. Yes, she looks innocent, but if we lose our guard, she might blitzes us to death. And for the Wanderer to be worried about us, is a rare thing indeed.
@ANWAR i mean he knows jester but not much, he knows childe got blackmail *ahem* selfies *ahem*, what if when we fall for the angel maybe wanderer or childe or both save us from her string the reason the reason for childe its his special rival friend for wanderer he can't lost someone he loves again its too scared for him
@Pantalone he said that she looks innocent thats why he didn’t say smt bad to her you guys overhyping her sm I know she is strong and all but not like dottore and pierro
A couple of interesting confirmations. -Sandrone's numbering -The Jester IS from kahenri'ah -The tsaritza's original ideal (long since theorized, but finally confirmed) -The capitano is a braggart just like his counterpart in comedia da larte. -The dove is scary as shit, it's not just Childe's imagination. Although I feel like she is something of an anti-Benett. Everyone thinks she is not dangerous when she actually is. -The knave is crazy. Childe already alluded to this, butit's nice to see confirmed.
I feel like some of the other Harbingers are gonna become allies with the traveler like Childe and Scara and some will remain his/her enemy until their last breath
@NFYT wait so let me get this straigth the celestia was the one who grant the random vision for example they grant fire vision to yoimiya who average normal big sister and grant to wanderer too wow also is it because paimon that they at least grant vision less cause something trouble on celestia??? I mran paimon come out of nowhere
It’s interesting that Columbina is being pushed as this terrifying psychotic being. She has imagery of a seraph, so it’s possible we have an angelic being of sorts in Teyvat. It also feels like it’s all but confirmed that the Tsaritsa was associated with being the god of love.
I don't think she is psychotic. I believe she may be thr last Seelie. They used to guide humans and show them the right path. So what if, she 'judges' and then 'punishes' the travellers based on their sins? Since they also do symbolise guardian angels. And Scara was afraid of her because of... well her raw strenght? I think she could fight the travellers in the end of their journey or in Fontaine since it is the nation of justice. I've also heard some rumours that she and Dottore may appear in Fontaine.
I'm honestly so tired of seeing these kinds of characters. It seems so stupid and just repetitive. You could literally find at almost every anime this kind of character.
It's like he's been keeping a list of insults this entire time and when we finally ask him about the others he pulls out a huge scroll like ""Finally, the day has come. I can finally tell you about something faker than the sky."
@Septian Putra That actually make sense, since in the commedia, Capitano is a braggart and weak dude, altough genshin's Capitano seems to be the opposite, instead of being a braggart himself, he is overly bragged by his subordinates inculding Childe, so its possible that genshin's Capitano is actually strong, the direct opposite of commedia's Capitano.
I don't know if I could trust Wanderer's perception of Pulcinella, after all, he doubts everyone and expects the worst of them. I don't see Pulcinella as an innocent sweet grandpa, but there is also the possibility that he believes that everything is for the greater good so that leads to him being nice when he can
@LemonCart From what I've seen, Varka is suspicious. Idk 100% but I don't trust him either. Also, I've seen leaks saying that Dottore might be playable, as in the files he's listed as like... Sword or claymore, can't remember which. But there's a lot to consider. I'm more willing to trust Wanderer for now, as he's shown actual remorse and responsibility for his past actions. Dottore experiments on people for his enjoyment. And while people might say the old man might be a good guy, I'm willing to bet he's not. How likely is it that the harbingers know of Childe's friendly relationship with the Traveler? And how much influence the Traveler has in Teyvat? I can't imagine some old political fart not taking advantage of the situation, but we'll have to wait and see.
@Luis Fillipe Beserra I know those guys are jerks, we have enough evidence and knowledge to know that Dotore sucks, and I don’t think anyone likes Arlecchino or Sandrone. But we’ve had voice lines and text saying different about other harbingers. Like Capitano helping Varka out. I’m not saying that their saints, but the possibility of them having a sense of humanity left is still on the table.
Because if not, his kind picture of himself will disappoint players. Although I like his kind attitude in Reconcile stars event. But his hatred self is better. Somehow he changed himself one chance after time paradox. And also obtain his memory one more time. Thanks Nahida for that
I love how petty he is about Sandrone. I imagine he hates her because She is right behind him in rank and He is angry over the idea that she might do something grand and manage to outrank him
@HellBenthonestly it will surprise me if Sandrone hasn't tried to put her hands on Scara. I woukd hate the person that probably want to vivisect me and study my body parts as well.
@ehe i mean, childe did say before the summoning that he didn't want to use the Osial plan bc he didn't want innocent people involved. even if Zhongli could step in and reign Osial back under control, people were still under a threat of being victims bc even Zhongli can't just fix eveything in 1 second + he would wait for some time to make sure things ARE our of control. one way or another, both Childe and Zhongli are grey characters
@ehe do not worry, I play this game since the release, I completed Liyue story quest couple of times from different accounts and I know what the whole quest is about. I do understand that Zhongli was ready to save Liyue if something would’ve gone wrong, but the fact that his plan included someone summoning a whole ass ancient monster??? And a lot of people could’ve easily died? And all of these theatrics were needed only to test Liyue??? If he was looking after the region for 4000 years, wouldn’t he already know if the region was ready for change or not?? (P.S. I’m sorry for the grammar, as a foreigner, I’ve never used so many different constructions in one comment so I’m not sure if I used them correctly LMAO😭)
@Rovana Jean I mean Childe is sent there to act to cause a harm to liyue by zhongli and Tarisa deal and he did his job perfectly, he also said that he doesn’t want to harm to weak if he could but sometimes to accomplish the mission he had to risk and in the end no one is killed, Zhongli should be thankful that his plan was executed perfectly by using 21 y.o. boy as a scapegoat
I love how even Scara can't deny Capitano being the righteous warrior type and him never sticking out of his strenght/principles to the point he finds that suspicious that a Harbringer can be so praised. I can't wait to encounter Capitano, him and Pierro are my favs easily.
As much as i’d like to attribute arlecchino some redeeming qualities, the orphanage might likely be an institution for recruiting orphans to join the fatui
@Arda Oguzhan we don't really really know about that, but yeah. I did a bit of research about her orphanage, and, well... But you've got to agree, out of context, a lady with an orphanage doesn't sound all that evil
Yeah, we really didn't hear anything bad about Capitano as of yet. While Fatui soldiers praising and idolising Harbingers is nothing new, and happens pretty much always, Scara seems to imply that he really is that principled. To a fault, even. I think it might be the same case as Xiao/Zhongli relationship: Tsaritsa saved him/gave him a purpose, and he is grateful for it (or feels indebted?) and devoted to her like a loyal knight (or, as I think Scara might say it, a lapdog). I never really thought about Capitano being the "good" guy before ("good" here being a "sorry, I don't have anything against you, but we still must fight" type). In my mind, that place was Arlecchino's, (maybe because I can't really see a really bad person having an orphanage, and all the Fatui recruitings from it could, in that case, be from kids actually wanting to help her/be like her as they grew up), but the lines seem to imply that she is cold and manipulative, and anyone who challenges the facade is never seen again.
Unlike the harbingers, he seems like a good guy, he doesn't throw himself at fights like childe he doesn't use people around him like the other harbingers, and he's not a dick like scara, his only sin is his choice of master and comrades, because aside from him the harbingers are dickhead, and the tsaritsa seems like a depressed deviced meddle aged woman
"So you know after your mother oofed your co-worker I kept this as a souvenir" Scaramouche: *looks at the traveller and then the crown in his/her hands* Scaramouche a few hours later in the Shogun's Palace: "Mom please help me, there is a psychopath that follows around. I promise to be a good boy. I will cook, i will clean my room. I will even go buy your favourite dango milk everyday. Dont let them near me."
Finally, all members of the Fatui Harbingers were immediately exposed. I can't wait for the other Harbingers members to be playable in the future and share information for us about them such as their motives, backstory and main goals. 🧐
@Dez We just need to be patient... I've been waiting twenty-seven months for Dottore to show up, I think I can wait a little longer. I do not know how to help a person for whom the main enemy is himself. I hope the Hoyo's don't ruin this story with something very banal. It doesn't matter if this character becomes playable or dies, as long as it makes sense to his fans. I feel sad when people call the Doctor trash without even trying to sort out the situation... As it was with the Wanderer before, and before him with Child. So let's put aside our prejudices and just enjoy the ride!👍
@Tisha Lansky I never stated that I hated him. I actually really like him as a character. Once again I'll clearly state: I'm saying that it's going to be hard to redeem a character like him. I have no malice towards you and your opinion of him, I was just stating his character and that MHY will have to weave an intricate story if he was going to be redeemable. I'm extremely curious about him and his story, and where he's going to go from Sumeru. We've been shown that Genshin will do crazy things we don't expect (like with La Signora or how deep Wanderer's story was). The whole Irminsul thing was crazy. At this point we don't know what will happen, I'm just here for the ride. Games are incredibly fun when they have a lot of story like this
@Dez If you don't like the Doctor, that's your right. I won't insist. Even before the release of the game, I read the Manga, and the Doctor made a terrible impression on me ... But, rereading the manga over and over again, I realized how much I fell in love with this "eccentric". Two years had to wait until he appeared in the story. I still love him the way he is. Even if he really is a villain. This character has a lot of negative qualities, but who doesn't? Ideal people do not exist. But I really want to know his motivation... And to be honest, I don't need his "repentance", because I think that the Doctor himself cannot accept his personality. This is his personal punishment. He literally hates himself, and at the same time the whole world. Deep down, I feel sorry for him. You may perceive it differently. You can hate him. This is fine.😉Sorry if my English is not very good!🙄
For now Capitano seems like the most likable member of Fatui. Fair, honorable and respectful. He's also nothing like his shady colleagues. I wonder why did he joined Fatui in the first place.
@Tisha Lansky Скарамучча в своей линии о Капитано говорит,что "справедливость доведенная до предела это опасно,и сила у Капитано огромная" что как бы может намекать,Кэп фанатичен и довёл свои принципы до крайности.
Действительно многое указывает на то, что Капитано тот самый Рыцарь Крови, что учился у убитого мужика Синьоры, Волчонка. В его истории (Рыцаря), указано что он потек крышей, и жил лишь жаждой "очищения зла". Он все еще был благороден, но весь не то что по локоть, а по шею в кровище. Что-то вроде "Охотник на монстров, сам стал монстром", и не понял этого. Истреблять зло, и защищать любой ценой, вот был его девиз. Только вот он уже добро от зла не отличал. Так что возможно, это действительно Капитан. Вообще, все Предвестники интересные, было бы здорово узнать их истории... А если верить Скарамушу, то критерий выбора Предвестников был "любовь", но т.к. Дейн говорил что любовь эта извращена, то критерий сместился до уровня "одержимость". Капитано под этот Критерий попадает, причем в описании меча "Рыцаря Крови" сказано, что он бродив по свету, увидел "Новый мир" в снегу, или что-то такое, не помню точно, как Синьора. Возможно поэтому он и присоединился к Фатуи...
Да,надеюсь Михойо проработают его,он мой любимый из предвестников P.s. я подумал у тебя Эдвард Нортон на аве Yes, I hope mihoyo will work on it, he is my favorite of the harbingers. P.s. I thought you had Edward Norton on pfp
@Qmwneb Rvtcyxuz we know pullchinella is a politician when have politicians ever had good intentions ever- he’s also known for leaving his soldiers for dead. It lines up way to well.
I have the feeling Pierro is not the number 1 since Dottore is now confirmed as number 2, It would be impossible that Capitano would be lower than him since based on Childe's voice over to him that Capitano is stronger, so I would assume that the number 1 of the harbingers would be Capitano then for Pierro would be head of them, take it like from the Food Wars anime... where the new batch of the elite 10, Souma is the Number 1 while Erina is the Director of the elite 10, as for Arleechino the way Scaramouche's voice line about her, it would be also Impossible if she would be at number 10, so my guess would be she could be number 4, and so I'll leave the 10th spot to an None category like the number 6 & 8 since the former harbingers here were Scaramouche & La Signora
@Karinaa You made a point, but if you think about it at another sense, its also possible that Arlecchino see something that will benefit her following Signora's death whatever it may be its not yet clear, but if you were to ask me, saying for her to climb up the ranks doesnt always have to mean that Arlecchino is referring to her ranking number but rather something she can have control over that only Signora was able to command on, which really fits her personality based on Tartaglia and Wanderer's POV about her, an opportunist who will not think twice of using and betraying someone for her benefit.
@Steven De Jesus But it wouldn't make sense since in shuumatsuban gaiden world quest, it said that arlechinno want to get her rank climb up with signora death case and prestige for her
@felipe poffo Actually there is another leak contradicting this. Pierro is stated to not be part of the Ranking Number because he is the Leader or Director of the Fatui thus making Capitano as No. 1 and Arlecchino is No. 4. The Tenth Rank Seat is vacant as per the leak.
Tf did Columbina do to make the harbingers scare of them lmao 💀 like some of them arent even human and they're not ordinary at all, and to be blunt, most of them are morally grey by now and go bye *idc anymore*
The idea of Scaramouche being able to challenge and even defeat Dottore in a fight isn’t actually that unreasonable in my opinion. Yes the Doctor is ranked as the second strongest Harbinger, but considering that A. Dottore has killed all of his artificial body doubles, B. He does not appear to have a Vision or even a Delusion on him, and C. Scaramouche physically cannot die due to being a biological puppet, makes me think that he could probably take the mad doctor on in a fight and emerge victorious. Also keep in mind, the Rooster is as high up in the rankings as number 5, but unless he can operate a Vision’s energy to the same degree as someone like Ninguaang or Shenhe, I seriously doubt he’s stronger than the likes of Ajax, Signora, Scaramouche and even the Knave. No, he’s as high up in the rankings as he is due to his political and socioeconomic power, not his combat strength. I know Nahida described the top three Harbingers as being nearly as powerful as the Archons themselves, but considering that Pierro’s a Mage from a ruined nation that intimidated Celestia so much that they had to destroy it, and Columbina’s reason for being as high up in the rankings as she is is still up in the air (the Seelie theory seems the most likely, but no one can say for sure), I feel like Dottore could only be seen as such a threat if he too also harbours some kind of Arcane/Accursed power that’s unique to him and him alone, and so far, bit the game and the manga have only ever addressed his mental, economical, political and intellectual strength. His actual combat power is completely up in the air.
This is literally Scaramouche's 46 minute and 45 seconds video take down of the Fatui Harbingers. He literally said, "We broke up. Time for me to expose everyone. Here a the receipts." We love a sassy king. And also damn was that all you could say about Signora? GG RIP. ✌🥺✌
Can you imagine him trying to use Childes family as leverage? Hes going to be one cooked rooster if he messes up and gives Childe an opening. That alone makes me look forward to Shnezaya 😂
I doubt it, You gotta remember that The Rooster's rank is 5th, that doesn't come from just being a mayor. And with how weak Chide has shown himself to be I hardly doubt he could beat *anyone* from the other harbingers in 1 to 1 combat. Scara isn't wrong tbf Chide is literally so weak he lowers the avarage power of all other harbingers just by association.
I mean, the one that was in Sumeru is also a segment. The one in the prime of his life and likely the strongest one. So yeah, he didn't erase all his segments, but all his *other* segments, as Nahida said. At least that's how I interpret it.
Hearing what Scaramouche had to say about Pulcinella makes Childes voice line funny but sad: “I wonder what the rest of the harbingers are doing. Plotting and scheming on an ever grander scale no doubt 😊” like yeah, and one of them are doing it to you and your family 😭😭 Hoyo probably introduced Childe early so we can connect with him more (ex. his voice lines about wanting the traveler to meet his family, or that he wants to go on an adventure with us), cause when it’s time to go to Snezhnaya, we are definitely gonna be on a rescue mission for him or his family. I’m happy Childe is not too trusting of Pulcinella at least
Yeah he is literally my favourite character lore-wise. I think he has a huge potential for the plot in the future. I just hope we will meet him more often and more interactions, tiny hope to meet him in every nation ngl
Was it already confirmed that Pantalone and Dottore work together? Cause people have always been drawing them as a pair, but I hadn't seen it get confirmed until now. I'm glad tbh, I like them both a lot
So many of his segments could mean that dottore just destroyed the segments he deployed, it’s likely there’s a couple in storage. Maybe in a later patch one will rebel and that’s how we get him as a playable character
It makes me want columbina even more xD signora fans are coping real hard rn. For those who don't understand and keep thinking he's scared of columbina..he's not saying that..what he's basically saying is that someone like the traveller who is always kind and caring to people could be caught off guard and get mesmerized by her and her innocent looking exterior. But in reality she's probably a sadistic evil cruel person waiting to take advantage of your feelings lol and kill you on the spot without warning while your back is turned or sumn. And she has no emotions or pity or love or sadness or anything like that. She feels no remorse basically.. So be careful of her. He also says that someone like him who is an absolute savage won't be caught offguard by it because he trusts no one lol not even his "close companions" like the traveller now maybe
I wonder what will her vision, lmbs, elemental attacks and burst be, I want her burst animation to he associated with her taking off the mask or something
Ngl, I’m actually really happy that they kept Scara’s personality intact even after joining our side. It would’ve been really disappointing if his memory got erased after his defeat and his personality did a complete 180, but having him still be an asshole even after his turn to the light just makes him more entertaining to me. Aside from the line about Sandrone giving us a better idea of where each Fatui Harbinger stands in the rankings, the line that interests me the most is the one about Pantalone’s partnership with Dottore. One’s an accountant who could literally plunge entire countries into economic turmoil at a moments notice and the other’s a highly intelligent scientist who reprogrammed a piece of ancient machinery to mind control the citizens of Sumeru and got his hands on both the Dendro Gnosis and the Electro Gnosis just by killing off his army of artificial body doubles. They may be seven spots apart from each other in the ranking’s, but I don’t think any two other harbingers are capable of causing nearly as much mayhem as these two.
So what we've learned so far about Columbina, 1. Childe loves fighting, yet is scared to face her 2. Scaramouche is leagues ahead of Childe in terms of combat prowess, and is still cautious of her 3. She is on the level of a god, according to Nahida I can't wait until we get to see the top three in action, Capitano included
I'm so excited for Columbina! She already got my attention ever since i saw the trailer of them. One of the few female characters that i really really want to have, I'm really hoping they make her as a playable character because it's a shame if I'll never be able to admire her absolutely gorgeous design. All these dialogues about her makes me really excited to know what's going on with her. So mysterious and elegant yet so sinister, i love her
As expected of Pulcinella but feels less interesting since it's been done before in other series and games. Smart way to keep your wolf (Childe) to not bite you especially Tartaglia showing instances of pointing his blade the moment he spots betrayal or sus actions. I'm very concerned about Childe and his family even more. I do hope we get back to more of lore important stuff than fillers with him.
@Novi :D *5.1 dialogue leaked* traveller: that's a very nice argument pulcinella, why don't you back it up with a source? *Points blade* Pulcinella: the source is that I made it the f*ck up
@Aeris Sai kieru's animation was so good It leaves me wanting to see that happen, or like a total war between the fatui vs everyone we have met along the way. And yes Arlecchino could be playable in a nice way, after traveler defeats her instead of going around teyvat for freedom (kazuha) or existing between the lines but if required make appearance (scara), Arlecchino could seek to understand herself for once: She been nice on the outside but when the moment comes she turns into a true monster hidden within, but I'd this really herself? A path to discover your true purpose while also controlling/understanding this monster you deeply have custom yourself to accept
@Giorno Giovanna I like the sound of that, it'd make for a CG that's just as awesome as the 2023 Harbinger animation by Kieru. Logical thought that came to mind; Arlecchino is a loose cannon that'll go rogue so she might end up dead. Her chances are slim from what we know about her and how the Fatui feel about her but there's a slim chance for that community, that she'll still be playable.
@Aeris Sai so capitano has a chance of turning back against the fatui if it goes against his principles, maybe that's the plan: If they turn against each other things will turn into true chaos inside their ranks, specially if pulcinella gets to be eliminated (he seems to be like a proctor or middle ground between all of them, because for what I seems most of the members of the fatui seems pretty...unstable) I can't wait to see what they do with the fatui
@Illumi Zoldyck - Capitano has been given so many titles from the Fatui because he's a positive rolemodel for the organization - Wanderer gets annoyed whenever members of the Fatui talk about Capitano since it's all compliments and respect - Wanderer is wary of those types of people with an unbreakable conviction to their beliefs because they will turn on you if you do something that's against their personal code/beliefs - Wanderer also acknowledges that Capitano possesses great strength so it would be an even more difficult obstacle if he turns on the Fatui. *Main take-away. Wanderer is pessimistic about everyone, however, he respects Capitano because he's too good of a Harbinger.
@Nikhil u said top 3, what about Columbina and Pierro. Also, they might get another segment to be playable or make him playable and still not having him on traveler's side
@Silent my answer is doctor doesn't have any means to redeem himself he is stay up evil so he would not be playable and if he would become playable I don't know how would he come in decent terms with traveller
@SawaKun Gaming & Reactions well technically it should just be pierro and signoria since pulcinella is confirmed to be playable (thanks to the tevyat trailer)
@josebalto omarnilson even so, looking at the fact that Dottore and Scara are playable after being NPCs makes certain harbingers playable in the future. But I guarantee you, if anything changed I’d mention it.
@Rand SpazYou forget the Fatui act alone and it seems they don’t check on each other’s strengths from when they initially got the rank. So in their eyes Childe is still Childe and they don’t check up on any of his improvements because they don’t expect much, so basically they underestimate him. I don’t know if they move them ranks though when someone dies or when someone Is added They probably are like the worst team I ever seen yet they somehow work together. 😂
@Oblivion YT not in the original text. It says power which in CN can be referred to strength, status, wealth or influence. So there were doubts on that part
Failing is inevitable, Nahida is in a much better place now both physically and mentally, so even if she suffers a major blow, sure she'll back up and regain power in no time.
I don't know, but Scara and Childe kinda give me that vibe of anime rivalry in which they roast each other constantly and say the other is no match for them, but when they end up fighting it is always a tie or somebody else stopping the fight in a way the audience never knows who's stronger
I'm happy they decided to go the commedia dell'arte route for Dottre and Pantalone. And judging by the end of the voiceline, their interactions are going to be interesting from here on out. Just please don't kill Pantalone HVY lol.....
It seems like everyone has such an odd opinion on Pantalone he mught actually secretly be pretty strong. Or I’m just reading to much into it I just really want him to be playable.
Honestly i'm curious how they gonna handle Columbina. They kept hyping us on how scary she is, i can only imagine there's going to be a "horror-like" segment for her time of shine. And also, when do you think we gonna meet her? Fontaine? outside Sandrone, we still haven't take care of Dottore. Natlan? Would the nation fits for her appearance? Capitano made sense because he is a fighter and likely came from Natlan afterall. Snezhnaya? That place will be filled with Fatui events! (Assuming we're facing Tsaritsa, Pierro, Pulcinella and Arlechinno there... not to mention Dottore?)
Usually we don't move on to other Harbingers without taking care of established ones ' plot line. Like how Signora was the acting Fatui representative all the way from Mondstadt to Inazuma before finally croaking, while Childe was basically an enforcer without a mission by the end of Liyue's quest and was allowed to exit the story. I bet Dottore will meet his end by Natlan with probably 1 or 2 other Harbingers appearing in roles similar to Childe before dealing with the majority of them in Snezhnaya
Yes i also honestly doesn’t trust it completely too because that person shared it on Dottore mains discord. That person was an admin in one of the leaker discord channel (where Ubatcha and SYP was included iirc what they said) so take it with a grain of salt. But honestly it will be awesome if it was real because Columbina and Focalors working together sounds 👌 That person also showed a meme that they made where Columbina and Focalors are shaking hands (cat form) and has a caption “My Man” 😂. They drawn Focalors that has chains on her body, has gills/flaps(?) on her head, a lone white hair accessory (possibly a ribbon?) on her left side of her hair, and her hair is black with dark blue tones (like other archons who has another color on their hair) Honestly looks so cool in design. I hope its true 👍
One thing that is very interesting that I see little discussion about is how Pantalone works with Dottore. I'm now wondering whether he'll make an appearance in the new Archon quest. Edit: Nevermind then, time to wait for fontaine
What he says about the Tsaritsa is very interesting. Not only does it imply that she is the god of love, as many have theorized, but it also implies that she either lost someone/something she loved above anything else, or someone/something she loved betrayed her, leaving her bitter. I guess only time will tell.
Somewhere in Snezhnaya in patch 6.X: Congratulations! You joined the fatui. Pick your harbinger from... - Old man from Khaenriah, we don't know much about him because he shows once an... eternity - Don't choose this one, he's a psycho. He don't need you, he has clones (at least he had them) - A creepy girl. What the hell is she?! - Oh yeah, the Captain. The best option out of these. Alice probably chose him as idol from Snezhnaya - The mayor. He pretends to be a kind person, but he really doesn't care about you. - [ERROR.FILE.NOT.FOUND.] - You don't matter to her if you are not a ruin guard. - R.I.P. - A reason why your salary is so low. (Wait, is he a communist?). You probably fight better than him. - Definitely the impostor. - Guy who loves fighting. Other harbingers think that he decreases their average IQ That's all! If you waited for good option, just leave the fatui.
I'm literally obsessed with any information pertaining to Marionette, even if it's little. Idk, there's just something about her that really gets my curiosity.
i'm just mad he called her achievements "copious amount of garbage"...to the one capable of making complete bionic puppets with personality (even better then the shogun's creation since scara and puppet raiden have ball joints and stuff, kath on the other hand looks completely human), and its not mentioned but she could be the ceo of the adventure's guild which would provide huge amount of information flow (kath already deals with traveler a lot, that's one target locked), now imagine the rest, alice, varka, and local information on regions...etc Her potential is scary tbh, and he said she doesn't give an F to anything else
I could care less, but the fact that history can be rewritten, no matter how difficult, or the insinuation that we can travel through Teyvats history, makes me think that we can pull a Ruu for Signora and have her as a playable character. I think this also makes future possibilities for influential figures like Venessa, the real Stanley, Bennett's Dad or the other Liyue Yakshas. Obvs unlikely, but it wouldn't be impossible.
@Afrid🍡 Pretty sure there were a lot of simps for her when that fatui trailer dropped but now people are hating her after learning that she kills orphans
@Arda Oguzhan If someone like Signora is being called a "heartless monster" for the bare minimum than Genshin fandom will have a meltdown once they encounter Arlecchino
It's interesting how both Scara and Childe point out Columbina as 'someone we should watch out for'. It really does make me wonder how powerful is she. He mentions that he would be able to take her on, but us, with our 'conscience', might as well be dead. Our conscience, as in our mind, I guess? Maybe something mind control or at least reading our thoughts? I don't know, but it's possible.
This just makes me love columbina even more, and it makes even more sense why she's on signora coffin. Its most likely not because she was close to Signora, But just because she's so unaware of the situation that all she knows is that she's just singing. It makes me wonder if maybe Columbina has a child like mindset, even the way she speaks to dottore sounds so innocent and pure.
@M Driandanu Yudisa Yup, that's Columbina. At least, that's what the wiki said and given her voice. Nah mate, I doubt Collei would casually talk to the man who experimented on her and ask where the segment would be if she is in Sumeru as well.
@M Driandanu Yudisa During the trailer when it faded to black and Columbina commented to Dottore on how he's looking young and asked where the segment at the prime of his life is.
@0xVENx0 We didn't defeat Ei, she barely even got tired from the fight, we just made her change her mind by letting her see the power of ambitions(visions)
I don’t see anyone talking about Pantalone so I’ll do it 👍 First of all: -Pantalone getting a death flag so early on *my guy is approaching death even before he got released* -There’s nothing impressive about Pantalone’s abilities according to Wanderer, I assume he’s talking about combat abilities Pantalone must be an insane strategist to somehow be ranked 9th with just his intelligent(and therefore with his wealth and influence on the Economy) -Pantalone likely being the most humane or in other words the closest to resemble normal/ordinary humans in the Harbingers, Scara kept comparing him to “Mortals” Interesting because it means he represents the Mortals who don’t have a visions or blessed by the Gods just like himself -Pantalone canonically works closely with Dottore(The Doctor) Considering the difference between their ranks and Dottore being insane, Pantalone is playing with fire here -Wanderer said “it's nothing worth,writing home about, just like how there's also nothing impressive about his abilities or *choice of partner”* “Choice of partner”? So that meant the Harbingers can freely decide who to work with? If that’s the case then Pantalone intentionally approaches Dottore Overall this guy is interesting as heck, I’m just sad everything about his character is dumb down to how flamboyant he looks(he really does tho) There’s nothing much about him currently aside from him potentially has something to do with Liyue’s future story and Zhongli Despite me thinking he’s the most normal human in the Harbingers, he may even be one of the most insane for daring to change the imbalance between Gods and Mortals himself despite being only a mere Mortal kinda like Dottore lmao
@Rock That is very intriguing indeed. I find the Harbingers to be such compelling figures, but what’s more interesting is how Pantalone is portrayed as just some guy... very ordinary and human, not even special enough in the eyes of the gods to receive a vision. I want to see what they’ll do with that. About Signora, I think so too! Both Childe and Scaramouche refused to talk about her because “There’s nothing worth saying now that she’s dead.” I think there’s more to her that the developers aren’t showing us yet. Venti would indeed be a very fitting person to hear it from!
@Lynn Raven ikr i find it so ironic that hes supposed to be a greedy character according to his Commedia Dell'arte counterpart but he somehow represents the most mundane and hopeless people in Teyvat Also about Signora, her death did felt rushed(like the entire Inazuma Archon quest) but i hope theyll do her story justice in the Future but maybe not because Scara didnt even bother to talk about her lmao, maybe they are hiding something about her Story, if we are gonna learn more about her then i think it will be from Venti
I actually think there is a lot potential for his contribution to the story. According to Uncle Tian, “What he’s planning may very well shake the world to its core”. Childe also explicitly mentions him having grandiose plans fueled by raw ambition… I think the links to Liyue are quite intentional, as well as his uncanny resemblance to Baizhu. It’s likely he’s from Liyue as well. I think his motivations will be very interesting to explore, what with him being born into extreme poverty and being visionless. So far, Genshin’s done a great job with the Harbingers’ story… though Signora’s character and depth not being shown in the main quests was a huge disappointment, I reckon they’ll do the rest of them justice!
A theory about columbina, maybe her powers got something to do with her opponent's consciousness like guilt, or some feelings you feel toward something like a cute/hurt animal? You know, that sudden grasp of heart then you suddenly can't breathe and think straight? If so then she's a 10/10 monster👀
Since on this voice lines we have now confirmed that Sandrone is the 7th Harbinger, but still I have a feeling that Pierro is not the number 1 since Dottore is confirmed as number 2, It would be impossible that Capitano would be lower than him since based on Childe's voice over to him that Capitano is stronger, so I would assume that the number 1 of the harbingers would be Capitano then for Pierro would be head of them, take it like from the Food Wars anime... where the new batch of the elite 10, Souma is the Number 1 while Erina is the Director of the elite 10, as for Arleechino the way Scaramouche's voice line about her, it would be also Impossible if she would be at number 10, so my guess would be she could be number 4, and so I'll leave the 10th spot to an None category like the number 6 & 8 since the former harbingers here were Scaramouche & La Signora
What if Scara’s comments on Columbina of “consciousness” indicates that she could manipulate other’s consciousness, like Nahida does to other people, but without Akasha? It could be scary af. She could just casually control your body and make you suicide.
Now that Pierro is confirmed to be a Khaenrian. I just noticed something about Khaenrians character. All of them(excluding the traveler and the npcs) Have a dragon like eye and they all have eyepatch of some sort.
@石川 白 Yeah, he basically had the equivalent of Alhaitham's scribe job. Working closely with the royals and rulers of Khaenri'ah but not having enough authority to overturn decisions that could've possibly saved Khaenri'ah.
Agreed. And while I don't know much about her, I can already surmise she's the biggest psychopath out of the current Nine Harbingers. For saying she wants "absolute loyalty", I can't even imagine what the price is for backstabbing Arlecchino - even for the 10th Harbinger.
Fun Fact: Scaramouch's Voiceline about the Tsaritsa Confirmed every God's ideals. Anemo is freedom Geo is Contracts Electro is Eternity Dendro is Wisdom Hydro is Justice Pyro is War and finally we know that Cryo is Love.
Didn't dain also said in the teyvat storyline that the cryo archon had no love left for her people so it was kinda obvious that she was the archon of love
It’s really interesting how both Childe and Scaramouche are unsettled by Columbina. I need to see her in action as soon as possible. In my opinion, her and Sandrone are the most interesting harbingers.
Scaramouche : He is simple of mind and not that strong of a body. Tartaglia : Ha! Said the fandago man who got his ass in a giant robot beaten by the traveller! Scaramouche : Oi! What about you?! You ass got kicked even harder! Tartaglia : Hey! I never wanted to kill her so I didn't go all out! You on the other hand....... Scaramouche : WHY YOU INSIGNIFICANT WORM! Then let's see how you fare against my mech! Tartaglia : BRING IT ON Mr.Big Hat shortie! Lumine : GUYS! PLEASE STOP IT! Nahida, support character on team : Scara. Your mom Ei made it clear. No more mechs for you to play with.
I so want to see Capitano after this. The Titan of the Knights of Favonius speaks highly of him. And Childe fanboys about him. Wanderer says he has "...great personal strenght...". So I would say, since he's heading to Natlan, probably Capitano is the strongest human in Teyvat and a child of Murata, (I wouldn't consider Dottore to be a human anymore, Columbina is probably another kind of being and Pierro is fussy because Khaenri'ah)
Capitano could also be the Bloodstained Knight. The Knight also had an obsession for justice and righteousness. He also came from Mondstadt and served under the Knights of Favonius, which is funny because we hear about Capitano making contact with the current Grandmaster of Knights of Favonius Varka. I feel like he's from Mondstadt or connected to it as a former knight. There has to be a reason as to why he hides his face.
I have a feeling that for the Snezhnaya quest, there might be a part where we are trying to save Childe’s family from Pucinella. And since Teucer have been revealed, there is a chance that he will be a major death in that chapter
I was wondering who will be our guide in Snezhnaya. And have thought that it would probably be either Childe trying to save his family, or Katherine putting in a good word for us. But Scara now seems like a good guide for us. And given that other than maybe 2 of the 9 harbingers care about loyalties to the Tsaritsa, we gonna enter with a civil war on tow.
_"Copious amount of garbage"_ - best line ever 👌😂 But on a serious note: _"Love is a form of sin."_ I never thought of that but it actually is if you cling to hard to it. A really good incentive to think about for those who cling to false/lost love.
"But even with that amount of dedication, she still produced a copius amount of garbage" LMAOOOO i love this guy, he's the type of person who would use "L + Bozo + cope + Fatherless" in an arguement 💀
Ok I understand the whole “The quiet ones without much aggression are the dangerous ones” cliche and all But did scaramouche straight up *WARN* us about columbina after dissing all of the other harbingers Just how scary is she gonna be when we meet her?
If I had to guess, I believe El Capitano will show up in Fontaine. Scaramouche’s description of him makes it sound like he’d fit right in to the nation of “Justice”
Arlecchino and Sandrone has the highest chance of apperance in Fontaine thanks to their getup, Pierro and Dottore could also make a cameo, but one thing is for sure multiple harbingers would be showing up in Sumeru
Most likely it's Sandrone that we would meet in Fontaine and since they are starting to introduce two Harbringers at the same time, maybe Columbina will show up in Fontaine too
OOF I had a strong feeling right off the bat that Pulcinella was playing Childe to have a hold over his family. The fact Wanderer confirmed it has me convinced on some level all the Fatui are bastards fighting for a worthy goal. Super interesting villains for sure Also damn they confirmed Pantalone works closely with Dottore. That’s a horrifying combination considering how powerful the Northland Bank is and how much research Dottore can do. Also damn they’re continuing to keep the Tsaritsa a big mystery. Good to build slow hype for Shneznya
The Wanderer's comment concerning Columbina is so interesting to dissect. He sounds completely dead serious when talking about her, especially compared to the other top Harbingers where he seems cautious at most (with Dottore, it seems like Scara's doesn't underestimate him but also he really hates him). Then there's his comment about at least being able to fight Columbina, which is extremely subjective to its meaning, but I find it unlikely that her innocent appearance is the only reason she's No.3. He's definitely wary of her (not scared though) as he isn't in his usual cocky mood and looks down on her abilities, like he did with Childe and Sandrone.
His voicelines about Columbia kind of confirms my theory that instead of fighting, she might be the "intel girl" and is the reason why the Fatui are so well informed. By using her "innocence" she can manipulate people to unintentionally provide intel to the Fatui. Just my theory though so take this as a grain of salt.
I think it’s important to remember that Columbine (As well as the rest of the harbingers) are based of of commedia dellarte. Columbia was a character that was the most down to earth, as well as one of the more intelligent characters. She would put up a front of being a helpless pawn of her lovers despite being the actual mastermind. I’m sure the harbingers won’t be exactly like their counterparts, but it looks like this is where they are going with Columbine.
then i think she'd befriend us pretending to be low ranked fatui or a civilian and help us through the quest then boom, at a crucial moment its revealed she's a harbinger with power that rival gods and stabs us in the back, that's why scara warned us not to confront her with our conscience. or she'll manipulate us into questioning our choices and spark guilt in the traveler's self
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Scara literally confirmed the theory that pulcinella doesnt care abt childe but actually has his hands on childe's family
That's his negative (but realistic) viewpoint. It cannot serve as confirmation
let's be fair it was kinda obvious
@Ilma Tuka it kinda makes sense though for hoyoverse to give us playable harbingers in orders of who can tell us the least accurate info about their comrades, to the most accurate. Scaramouche definitely knows more than Childe, but he’s arrogant and can’t allow himself to think he doesn’t truly understand something. Keep in mind, he didn’t even know that dotorre deceived him about his past just so he could be manipulated into serving them.
I always thought something was up when i heard how Childe was talking about The Rooster taking care of his family…this to me basically has mobster vibes…
Do not forget that Scara with all his flaws is hundreds of years old and is no longer a naive and clueless puppet he was before and spent centuries with the Fatui…
And yes, Scara is surprisingly honest when talking about a serious topic and not trying to be a menace
Look we take him out we basically earn childes trust and loyalty right?
However that seems to be too soon to talk about
It’s official. Our quest in Snezhnaya will be to save Childe’s family.
@PersonaMuyRandom Ajax dies before Teucer though, he commits suicide in all stories/plays involving his death I'm aware of. So in that regard him dying would make more sense, although they could also do something like with Wanderer (attempting to erase yourself from existance as well as the memory of everyone to ever exist is pretty much a suicide attempt).
WE MUST SAVE MY FAMILY!
@Atsyrc yes, either that or childe witnessing tuecer follow in his footsteps which he has done everything he can to prevent. As Childe wants to protect Tuecer so he doesn’t turn out like him. It’s going to be an either or and both scenarios are fantastic to me.
They've killed important, relevant playable characters in their games before, i wouldn't put it past them to kill a few more. Stories are more interesting when the protagonist struggles then grows from it anyway.
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ALSO CHILDE BETTER NOT D WORD
If Columbina makes Scaramouche of all people say “stay away from her” after roasting or being indifferent to every other Harbinger…that definitely is worrisome for the future
@Nishki yeah she is Rank 3, I don’t think you get that just by being cute. So she’s definitely one of the strongest Fatui, it just appears she’s not based on how sweet and innocent she looks
@Rexhunter99 theres so many thing that could happen and yess we traveler are have kindness they whould trick us
No because scara is not a very nice person but traveler is. So scara will beat up an innocent damsel without rlly caring but traveler…
@Herrscher of the slay scara doesn't have a problem fighting her so I doubt she is the most powerful. I think her ability is to control the mind or generate illusion. For someone like the wanderer who only care about himself means nothing. But for us who are seeking for our twin may be dangerous
Pretty sure he got a crush on Capitano
*Scaramouche talks in great detail about every Harbinger except Signora*
Signora: Am I a joke to you?!
Scaramouche: Yes you are, and I'm tired of pretending you are not.
@collei the headcanon was specifically on scaramouche's pov, not signiora's. And you can get shit talked on while still maybe recognizing that the other person's just as hurt in life as you are
@Tyrone Talam Remember when Signora called Scaramouche a "muddle headed puppet" and said being abused and tortured by Dottore doesn't make him an asset but is still all he's good for 💀💀💀
That's Just sad and insult to the Signora
@Yune just look at scara and the doctor cutscenes that what signora should have been yes we saw her in 3 nations but its like she just went to inazuma and die
@My pretty hot Momma it honestly did, didn't it? Though i hate signora wholeheartedly, her death was too rushed like you said.
so basically scara is saying to us that our biggest weakness when facing Columbina is that we won't be able to bring ourselves to hurt her? and that Columbina can't feel and therefore won't have any hesitation?
theoretically...yes
@Catmixo Has it ever been confirmed the Hydro Archon is a Seele expy? I really doubt it since the Tsaritsa is supposedly Bronya, it makes sense to make them close.
@V I don't think hoyo will use this same thing, remember traveler power is sealed what he will unlock it before fighting coloumbina
@Alpiait can be possible that even tho we couldnt defeat scara 1 v 1 nahida helps us defeat him by using a loop so eventually there'll be someone to save the traveller
I am worried about Columbina . Childe is one thing but for Scaramouche to warns us about her ??
Just WHAT is she ??
@Yuan Setiawan No Goddess of Flowers is also a seele and become a god of Sumeru along side with Rukkhedevata and Deshret but it doesn't mean she's stronger than Raiden Ei or Murata that literally a beast and slay other gods like popcorn.
@Peak well we are aware that they are somehow stronger than brute strength alone. Dottore with his knowledge and tactics. Pierre being a descendant of kaenryia who possibly has the same powers as Dain and has years/decades of experience.
@one piece ph You are definitely on to something. If she is a fallen angel like Lucifer. Maybe Enjou's prediction of Paimon betraying us might happen. After all, King Paimon is loyal to Lucifer. It would be kinda interesting if they added that in.
@Peak Obviously because they're not playable if they were they would prolly compliment on how strong she is and how she's rank 3
Fallen Angel like Lucifer
Columbina is like the type of "the quiet/mysterious ones are always the deadliest ones."
That's the same rule to farts
Yeah but she is rank 3 and there is 2 above her so what kind of monsters are they?
Probably be like Baldur from GoW, unable to feel pain. Really excited to mash her face in with Scara or with Childe if we ever convince him to leave the Harbingers.
“Unconcerned and unfeeling in any given situation” makes me feel like she’s going to be a psychopath (book definition), which would make me really excited to have a different type of character in genshin
@Reiji Akagawa scaramouche and his bohemian rhapsody, so columbina and pumped up kicks 💀 ?
The fact that Scaramouche was in the Abyss is so cool .
And it makes sense why Jester would sent him there . After all as a puppet , he propably wouldn't end up like Childe
@Seann yes, the same effect still works. Hoyoverse never fails to include little details like this
@Mikhail Abraham If you look at Childe you'll see he's the only Genshin character without light in his eyes. The Abyss messed him up mentally very bad. Honestly he's probably so bloodthirsty because it was the only way to survive what the Abyss was. The whole "kill or be killed." Being exposed to that as a young child for so long is sure to cause some serious mental issues
@KEP but he's gone crazy lol childe is downright sociopathic in certain situations and even though he has some ideals but he still doesn't seem to mind stepping over them to do what he's told to do
childe didnt really end up like he is, he was in some specific conditions and was trained by someone
he didnt just went mad
People think that the Wanderer is afraid of Columbina, what he meant was that it would be nigh-impossible for us to fight someone who looks so innocent and powerful at the same time. Yes, she looks innocent, but if we lose our guard, she might blitzes us to death. And for the Wanderer to be worried about us, is a rare thing indeed.
@ANWAR i mean he knows jester but not much, he knows childe got blackmail *ahem* selfies *ahem*, what if when we fall for the angel maybe wanderer or childe or both save us from her string the reason the reason for childe its his special rival friend for wanderer he can't lost someone he loves again its too scared for him
@Lelouch Vi Britannia we still have 2 more nations and more abyss stories before snezhnaya, who knows what kind of development will the traveler get
@Pantalone he said that she looks innocent thats why he didn’t say smt bad to her you guys overhyping her sm I know she is strong and all but not like dottore and pierro
Honestly, yep. Even though Dottore is a rank above her, the fact Scaramouche was still able to bad mouth him and not her- pls 💀
@Skeletonbones no, Columbina id ranked 3, it's confirmed and Capitano Is Number 4
A couple of interesting confirmations.
-Sandrone's numbering
-The Jester IS from kahenri'ah
-The tsaritza's original ideal (long since theorized, but finally confirmed)
-The capitano is a braggart just like his counterpart in comedia da larte.
-The dove is scary as shit, it's not just Childe's imagination. Although I feel like she is something of an anti-Benett. Everyone thinks she is not dangerous when she actually is.
-The knave is crazy. Childe already alluded to this, butit's nice to see confirmed.
Capitano isn't braggart.
I feel like some of the other Harbingers are gonna become allies with the traveler like Childe and Scara and some will remain his/her enemy until their last breath
Dude i whould be fucking scared like i was thinking like she migth be a judgement but man the chill i come near that dove
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Also Pantalone kinda teams up with Dottore
Scaramouche: "Signora meant nothing to me"
Venti *immediately grants him Anemo Vision* : "You are now adopted. Fly son, It's time."
@NFYT wait so let me get this straigth the celestia was the one who grant the random vision for example they grant fire vision to yoimiya who average normal big sister and grant to wanderer too wow also is it because paimon that they at least grant vision less cause something trouble on celestia??? I mran paimon come out of nowhere
Why did I read it as : "Fly son of mine." 💀
@Sakurality ik 🤙
@NFYT you kinda made it unfunny (no hate)
@Dez Just search Ei talk about vision
It’s interesting that Columbina is being pushed as this terrifying psychotic being. She has imagery of a seraph, so it’s possible we have an angelic being of sorts in Teyvat. It also feels like it’s all but confirmed that the Tsaritsa was associated with being the god of love.
I don't think she is psychotic. I believe she may be thr last Seelie. They used to guide humans and show them the right path. So what if, she 'judges' and then 'punishes' the travellers based on their sins? Since they also do symbolise guardian angels.
And Scara was afraid of her because of... well her raw strenght?
I think she could fight the travellers in the end of their journey or in Fontaine since it is the nation of justice. I've also heard some rumours that she and Dottore may appear in Fontaine.
Yeah
From what we know capitano is just built different
After I get Raiden shogun (if i even do) I'm definitely saving until she comes out in like forever from now. If she dies than...
I'm honestly so tired of seeing these kinds of characters. It seems so stupid and just repetitive. You could literally find at almost every anime this kind of character.
It's like he's been keeping a list of insults this entire time and when we finally ask him about the others he pulls out a huge scroll like ""Finally, the day has come. I can finally tell you about something faker than the sky."
SOMETHING FAKER THAN THE SKY LMFAOOOOOOO
@thundering dumbass the image of him trying to hide the fact that he is glancing at the script on his hat while talking to us is too funny
@Eunice T all the insults are actually written on the underside of his hat, so that they're always in his peripheral vision
He be keeping it in his hat bro
It's so petty that it's so on-brand of him
Scaramouche couldn't find anything to diss about Capitano so he went "he's too perfect." lmao
@KnightGunny Varka said he came off as a powerful individual when he met and stated he probably could take one down he never saw him in action.
@Q. D >varka saw him in action
I guess the grandmaster of the knights of favonius brought a mirror to his expeditions sometimes.
@Septian Putra That actually make sense, since in the commedia, Capitano is a braggart and weak dude, altough genshin's Capitano seems to be the opposite, instead of being a braggart himself, he is overly bragged by his subordinates inculding Childe, so its possible that genshin's Capitano is actually strong, the direct opposite of commedia's Capitano.
@ミタブ・ミフレフ Doubt it, if only because every other Harbinger is the exact opposite of their play counterparts, so him being the same would be weird
@Septian Putra
Well it’s utterly impossible he’s weak
Recent leaks confirms he litterally the strongest individual in tevyat
I don't know if I could trust Wanderer's perception of Pulcinella, after all, he doubts everyone and expects the worst of them. I don't see Pulcinella as an innocent sweet grandpa, but there is also the possibility that he believes that everything is for the greater good so that leads to him being nice when he can
@Rafi Darmawan maybe childe is foolled by "grandpa's" good side
@LemonCart From what I've seen, Varka is suspicious. Idk 100% but I don't trust him either. Also, I've seen leaks saying that Dottore might be playable, as in the files he's listed as like... Sword or claymore, can't remember which. But there's a lot to consider. I'm more willing to trust Wanderer for now, as he's shown actual remorse and responsibility for his past actions. Dottore experiments on people for his enjoyment. And while people might say the old man might be a good guy, I'm willing to bet he's not. How likely is it that the harbingers know of Childe's friendly relationship with the Traveler? And how much influence the Traveler has in Teyvat? I can't imagine some old political fart not taking advantage of the situation, but we'll have to wait and see.
@Luis Fillipe Beserra I know those guys are jerks, we have enough evidence and knowledge to know that Dotore sucks, and I don’t think anyone likes Arlecchino or Sandrone. But we’ve had voice lines and text saying different about other harbingers. Like Capitano helping Varka out. I’m not saying that their saints, but the possibility of them having a sense of humanity left is still on the table.
The Sandrone line was brutal. Man said "She worked so hard on her garbage inventions and in the end she could only place below me"
Sandrone: you wanna get personal eh?! At least I love my inventions. The one who invented you threw you out like garbage. 😏
@cherche well that’s sad
especially considering wanderer IS a puppet itself so scaramouche literally said “the puppet master is weaker than than the puppet”
scara being the biggest hater of literally everything is just so on brand im so glad they didnt change him at all
Because if not, his kind picture of himself will disappoint players.
Although I like his kind attitude in Reconcile stars event. But his hatred self is better.
Somehow he changed himself one chance after time paradox. And also obtain his memory one more time. Thanks Nahida for that
I love how petty he is about Sandrone. I imagine he hates her because She is right behind him in rank and He is angry over the idea that she might do something grand and manage to outrank him
I don't think Scaramouche really cared about securing a good rank in the Harbingers or not
@HellBenthonestly it will surprise me if Sandrone hasn't tried to put her hands on Scara. I woukd hate the person that probably want to vivisect me and study my body parts as well.
@AquaSaber organization XIII🤝The Fatui
hes a puppet, she makes puppets, ummm hahaha
My poor Childe. He is so awesome but gets dissed so hard.
@ehe i mean, childe did say before the summoning that he didn't want to use the Osial plan bc he didn't want innocent people involved. even if Zhongli could step in and reign Osial back under control, people were still under a threat of being victims bc even Zhongli can't just fix eveything in 1 second + he would wait for some time to make sure things ARE our of control. one way or another, both Childe and Zhongli are grey characters
@•Hinata• because when you see a 1st grader in the school you def gonna diss em, same with Childe
@ehe do not worry, I play this game since the release, I completed Liyue story quest couple of times from different accounts and I know what the whole quest is about. I do understand that Zhongli was ready to save Liyue if something would’ve gone wrong, but the fact that his plan included someone summoning a whole ass ancient monster??? And a lot of people could’ve easily died? And all of these theatrics were needed only to test Liyue??? If he was looking after the region for 4000 years, wouldn’t he already know if the region was ready for change or not??
(P.S. I’m sorry for the grammar, as a foreigner, I’ve never used so many different constructions in one comment so I’m not sure if I used them correctly LMAO😭)
@Rovana Jean I mean Childe is sent there to act to cause a harm to liyue by zhongli and Tarisa deal and he did his job perfectly, he also said that he doesn’t want to harm to weak if he could but sometimes to accomplish the mission he had to risk and in the end no one is killed, Zhongli should be thankful that his plan was executed perfectly by using 21 y.o. boy as a scapegoat
I love how even Scara can't deny Capitano being the righteous warrior type and him never sticking out of his strenght/principles to the point he finds that suspicious that a Harbringer can be so praised.
I can't wait to encounter Capitano, him and Pierro are my favs easily.
As much as i’d like to attribute arlecchino some redeeming qualities, the orphanage might likely be an institution for recruiting orphans to join the fatui
@Arda Oguzhan we don't really really know about that, but yeah. I did a bit of research about her orphanage, and, well...
But you've got to agree, out of context, a lady with an orphanage doesn't sound all that evil
@ArioTBP Arlecchino kills orphans so I doubt she's good lol
Yeah, we really didn't hear anything bad about Capitano as of yet. While Fatui soldiers praising and idolising Harbingers is nothing new, and happens pretty much always, Scara seems to imply that he really is that principled. To a fault, even.
I think it might be the same case as Xiao/Zhongli relationship: Tsaritsa saved him/gave him a purpose, and he is grateful for it (or feels indebted?) and devoted to her like a loyal knight (or, as I think Scara might say it, a lapdog).
I never really thought about Capitano being the "good" guy before ("good" here being a "sorry, I don't have anything against you, but we still must fight" type). In my mind, that place was Arlecchino's, (maybe because I can't really see a really bad person having an orphanage, and all the Fatui recruitings from it could, in that case, be from kids actually wanting to help her/be like her as they grew up), but the lines seem to imply that she is cold and manipulative, and anyone who challenges the facade is never seen again.
Unlike the harbingers, he seems like a good guy, he doesn't throw himself at fights like childe he doesn't use people around him like the other harbingers, and he's not a dick like scara, his only sin is his choice of master and comrades, because aside from him the harbingers are dickhead, and the tsaritsa seems like a depressed deviced meddle aged woman
Childe will have a Pyro vision after 3.3, there is no way he is recovering from that burn anytime soon.
Damn bruh
You roasted Childe to well done as well
Wtf💀
@feralspecter legacy 💀
Foul 💀💀💀💀
It would be interesting to see Scara react to how we kept Signora's crown as like a trophy.
@Pavk9918 Scara be like: ohh so you've defeated the betch, err I mean WITCH, congratulations!
Instant level 10 friendship
I feel like Scaramouche would high-five us. He never liked her lol.
@Pavk9918 *traveler, outside the palace, trying to break in, even the guards can't hold her*
Sca- wanderer: NOOOOOOO!!!!
"So you know after your mother oofed your co-worker I kept this as a souvenir"
Scaramouche: *looks at the traveller and then the crown in his/her hands*
Scaramouche a few hours later in the Shogun's Palace: "Mom please help me, there is a psychopath that follows around. I promise to be a good boy. I will cook, i will clean my room. I will even go buy your favourite dango milk everyday. Dont let them near me."
"Nothing remained in her ashes" He straight up called Signora heartless, lmao
Signora is a witch, from every story i read you can kill witch's body but her soul will still alive maybe this will happen to Signora too copium
Oh shit I didn't make the connection until you mentioned it. I hope it was intentional writing I love those kinda subtleties.
Finally, all members of the Fatui Harbingers were immediately exposed. I can't wait for the other Harbingers members to be playable in the future and share information for us about them such as their motives, backstory and main goals. 🧐
@Rendy Reuzt I highly doubt the Tsaritsa will be playable.
@Dez We just need to be patient... I've been waiting twenty-seven months for Dottore to show up, I think I can wait a little longer. I do not know how to help a person for whom the main enemy is himself. I hope the Hoyo's don't ruin this story with something very banal. It doesn't matter if this character becomes playable or dies, as long as it makes sense to his fans. I feel sad when people call the Doctor trash without even trying to sort out the situation... As it was with the Wanderer before, and before him with Child. So let's put aside our prejudices and just enjoy the ride!👍
@Tisha Lansky I never stated that I hated him. I actually really like him as a character. Once again I'll clearly state: I'm saying that it's going to be hard to redeem a character like him. I have no malice towards you and your opinion of him, I was just stating his character and that MHY will have to weave an intricate story if he was going to be redeemable.
I'm extremely curious about him and his story, and where he's going to go from Sumeru. We've been shown that Genshin will do crazy things we don't expect (like with La Signora or how deep Wanderer's story was). The whole Irminsul thing was crazy. At this point we don't know what will happen, I'm just here for the ride. Games are incredibly fun when they have a lot of story like this
@Dez If you don't like the Doctor, that's your right. I won't insist. Even before the release of the game, I read the Manga, and the Doctor made a terrible impression on me ... But, rereading the manga over and over again, I realized how much I fell in love with this "eccentric". Two years had to wait until he appeared in the story. I still love him the way he is. Even if he really is a villain. This character has a lot of negative qualities, but who doesn't? Ideal people do not exist. But I really want to know his motivation... And to be honest, I don't need his "repentance", because I think that the Doctor himself cannot accept his personality. This is his personal punishment. He literally hates himself, and at the same time the whole world. Deep down, I feel sorry for him. You may perceive it differently. You can hate him. This is fine.😉Sorry if my English is not very good!🙄
For now Capitano seems like the most likable member of Fatui. Fair, honorable and respectful. He's also nothing like his shady colleagues. I wonder why did he joined Fatui in the first place.
I remember reading somewhere that he joined out of loyalty to Snezhnaya
@Tisha Lansky Скарамучча в своей линии о Капитано говорит,что "справедливость доведенная до предела это опасно,и сила у Капитано огромная" что как бы может намекать,Кэп фанатичен и довёл свои принципы до крайности.
Действительно многое указывает на то, что Капитано тот самый Рыцарь Крови, что учился у убитого мужика Синьоры, Волчонка. В его истории (Рыцаря), указано что он потек крышей, и жил лишь жаждой "очищения зла". Он все еще был благороден, но весь не то что по локоть, а по шею в кровище. Что-то вроде "Охотник на монстров, сам стал монстром", и не понял этого. Истреблять зло, и защищать любой ценой, вот был его девиз. Только вот он уже добро от зла не отличал. Так что возможно, это действительно Капитан. Вообще, все Предвестники интересные, было бы здорово узнать их истории... А если верить Скарамушу, то критерий выбора Предвестников был "любовь", но т.к. Дейн говорил что любовь эта извращена, то критерий сместился до уровня "одержимость". Капитано под этот Критерий попадает, причем в описании меча "Рыцаря Крови" сказано, что он бродив по свету, увидел "Новый мир" в снегу, или что-то такое, не помню точно, как Синьора. Возможно поэтому он и присоединился к Фатуи...
@Mercyful Fate ахах, пасибо. Да, мне он тоже понравился. Очень жду его и надеюсь, что он таки будет играбельным.
Да,надеюсь Михойо проработают его,он мой любимый из предвестников
P.s. я подумал у тебя Эдвард Нортон на аве
Yes, I hope mihoyo will work on it, he is my favorite of the harbingers.
P.s. I thought you had Edward Norton on pfp
Yep, this is official now.
Pulcinella is gonna use Childe's family as an hostage
@Qmwneb Rvtcyxuz we know pullchinella is a politician when have politicians ever had good intentions ever- he’s also known for leaving his soldiers for dead. It lines up way to well.
Tbf do we really trust the opinion of the one character known for having trust issues with literally everyone
@Rovana Jean cyborg delusion tuecer bossfight when?
That or he will get the fake albedo treatment
@Novi :D he's gonna get a hard glow up isnt he 💀
@Novi :D not teucer I actually like that kid 😭😭
So.. that means Sandrone is the 7th Harbinger, and while it isn't confirmed that imply Capitano is number 4 and Arleechino is number 10
I have the feeling Pierro is not the number 1 since Dottore is now confirmed as number 2, It would be impossible that Capitano would be lower than him since based on Childe's voice over to him that Capitano is stronger, so I would assume that the number 1 of the harbingers would be Capitano then for Pierro would be head of them, take it like from the Food Wars anime... where the new batch of the elite 10, Souma is the Number 1 while Erina is the Director of the elite 10, as for Arleechino the way Scaramouche's voice line about her, it would be also Impossible if she would be at number 10, so my guess would be she could be number 4, and so I'll leave the 10th spot to an None category like the number 6 & 8 since the former harbingers here were Scaramouche & La Signora
@Karinaa You made a point, but if you think about it at another sense, its also possible that Arlecchino see something that will benefit her following Signora's death whatever it may be its not yet clear, but if you were to ask me, saying for her to climb up the ranks doesnt always have to mean that Arlecchino is referring to her ranking number but rather something she can have control over that only Signora was able to command on, which really fits her personality based on Tartaglia and Wanderer's POV about her, an opportunist who will not think twice of using and betraying someone for her benefit.
@Steven De Jesus But it wouldn't make sense since in shuumatsuban gaiden world quest, it said that arlechinno want to get her rank climb up with signora death case and prestige for her
@Steven De Jesus Cheld, Tortellini, Eleventh of the Eight Fatui Harbingers, ranked below a literal empty chair.
@felipe poffo Actually there is another leak contradicting this.
Pierro is stated to not be part of the Ranking Number because he is the Leader or Director of the Fatui thus making Capitano as No. 1 and Arlecchino is No. 4.
The Tenth Rank Seat is vacant as per the leak.
"I fear no god, but that *thing* (looking at Columbina) it scares me" - all other Fatui Harbingers
Columbina: 🎵 Tra la la! La la la laa! Tra la la! La la la laaaaa! 🎵
@Morax Columbina: *I AM fear*
@Jayson Cayetano【雪民】She probably doesn't even feel fear
Pierro and Dottore think otherwise lmfao
Tf did Columbina do to make the harbingers scare of them lmao 💀 like some of them arent even human and they're not ordinary at all, and to be blunt, most of them are morally grey by now and go bye *idc anymore*
Scaramouche thinking he can beat Dottore puts a whole new meaning to delusion
The idea of Scaramouche being able to challenge and even defeat Dottore in a fight isn’t actually that unreasonable in my opinion. Yes the Doctor is ranked as the second strongest Harbinger, but considering that A. Dottore has killed all of his artificial body doubles, B. He does not appear to have a Vision or even a Delusion on him, and C. Scaramouche physically cannot die due to being a biological puppet, makes me think that he could probably take the mad doctor on in a fight and emerge victorious. Also keep in mind, the Rooster is as high up in the rankings as number 5, but unless he can operate a Vision’s energy to the same degree as someone like Ninguaang or Shenhe, I seriously doubt he’s stronger than the likes of Ajax, Signora, Scaramouche and even the Knave. No, he’s as high up in the rankings as he is due to his political and socioeconomic power, not his combat strength.
I know Nahida described the top three Harbingers as being nearly as powerful as the Archons themselves, but considering that Pierro’s a Mage from a ruined nation that intimidated Celestia so much that they had to destroy it, and Columbina’s reason for being as high up in the rankings as she is is still up in the air (the Seelie theory seems the most likely, but no one can say for sure), I feel like Dottore could only be seen as such a threat if he too also harbours some kind of Arcane/Accursed power that’s unique to him and him alone, and so far, bit the game and the manga have only ever addressed his mental, economical, political and intellectual strength. His actual combat power is completely up in the air.
Possible in dottore bossfight playable wanderer I mean ppl beat scara with childe
watched traveler and scara team up and beat dottore ass off the ground.
LMAOOOOOO
This is literally Scaramouche's 46 minute and 45 seconds video take down of the Fatui Harbingers. He literally said, "We broke up. Time for me to expose everyone. Here a the receipts." We love a sassy king.
And also damn was that all you could say about Signora? GG RIP.
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Him shitting on signora is the funniest thing ever. I absolutely adore him
dude didnt even mention the fact that it was his mom that turned her into that
Facts lol
He should thank his mother 😂
😭😭😭😭
Ngl Capitano seems like the most well respected harbinger so far. The strongest man in teyvat who values strength, glory, virtue, and morals.
Can you imagine him trying to use Childes family as leverage? Hes going to be one cooked rooster if he messes up and gives Childe an opening.
That alone makes me look forward to Shnezaya 😂
I doubt it, You gotta remember that The Rooster's rank is 5th, that doesn't come from just being a mayor. And with how weak Chide has shown himself to be I hardly doubt he could beat *anyone* from the other harbingers in 1 to 1 combat. Scara isn't wrong tbf Chide is literally so weak he lowers the avarage power of all other harbingers just by association.
Cooked rooster 😆
"Oh the ninth rank guy"
Bro didn't even call him by his name😂
Also he confirmed that Pantalone kinda works with Dottore
I can see shippers
@Lynn Raven FR
I’m guessing no one cares that much about him since his work is probably the most boring out of all the Harbigers.
Can't wait to hear Arlecchino's voice to Pantalone, gurl seems to be the biggest Pantalone hater 😂
I notice Wanderer said Dottore erased "so many of his segments" rather than "all of his segments".
We could probably meet Alpha Dottore soon, since the one that we meet back then was Omega Dottore
I mean, the one that was in Sumeru is also a segment. The one in the prime of his life and likely the strongest one. So yeah, he didn't erase all his segments, but all his *other* segments, as Nahida said. At least that's how I interpret it.
Columbina took "Don't mess with the quiet kids." to a whole new level
Edit: OMG 100 LIKES
Why did the AK-47 cross the road?
Because Colombina brought the wrong backpack to Fatui HQ
Hearing what Scaramouche had to say about Pulcinella makes Childes voice line funny but sad: “I wonder what the rest of the harbingers are doing. Plotting and scheming on an ever grander scale no doubt 😊” like yeah, and one of them are doing it to you and your family 😭😭 Hoyo probably introduced Childe early so we can connect with him more (ex. his voice lines about wanting the traveler to meet his family, or that he wants to go on an adventure with us), cause when it’s time to go to Snezhnaya, we are definitely gonna be on a rescue mission for him or his family.
I’m happy Childe is not too trusting of Pulcinella at least
Yeah he is literally my favourite character lore-wise. I think he has a huge potential for the plot in the future. I just hope we will meet him more often and more interactions, tiny hope to meet him in every nation ngl
Was it already confirmed that Pantalone and Dottore work together? Cause people have always been drawing them as a pair, but I hadn't seen it get confirmed until now. I'm glad tbh, I like them both a lot
@_mikazuki_ yes Dottore and Pantalone are friends in comedia dellarte
Also Signora is Pantalone's wife and Arlecchino and Damsellette are dating
FINALLY SOMEONE TALKS ABOUT THIS
@OOO yes dottore can easily clap pantalone but if thats the case, i wonder what would be their fall out
@vector I would like to see that, we should see dottore in action
@vector NO DAMN THEM. But tbh I don't care. Either pantalone or baizhu should be playable
1:15
That "How pitiful" really reminds me of Sasori, from both voice, intonation, and the sentence itself really fits Sasori's personality.
omg ikr I love them both so much and they both are puppets
Both puppets but sasori had a heart (kind of)💀
Well both are puppets
So many of his segments could mean that dottore just destroyed the segments he deployed, it’s likely there’s a couple in storage. Maybe in a later patch one will rebel and that’s how we get him as a playable character
It makes me want columbina even more xD signora fans are coping real hard rn. For those who don't understand and keep thinking he's scared of columbina..he's not saying that..what he's basically saying is that someone like the traveller who is always kind and caring to people could be caught off guard and get mesmerized by her and her innocent looking exterior. But in reality she's probably a sadistic evil cruel person waiting to take advantage of your feelings lol and kill you on the spot without warning while your back is turned or sumn. And she has no emotions or pity or love or sadness or anything like that. She feels no remorse basically.. So be careful of her. He also says that someone like him who is an absolute savage won't be caught offguard by it because he trusts no one lol not even his "close companions" like the traveller now maybe
I wonder what will her vision, lmbs, elemental attacks and burst be, I want her burst animation to he associated with her taking off the mask or something
@Rovana Jean yea lol same i want her badly if she becomes playable and yea she's a psychopath lol underneath that calm exterior basically
So basically she's a cute psychopath. Nice, I'd love to pull for her if she does become playable tho, her angelic symbols are too nice
Bruh thank you! Someone that actually gets it! Well said 💯.
Ngl, I’m actually really happy that they kept Scara’s personality intact even after joining our side. It would’ve been really disappointing if his memory got erased after his defeat and his personality did a complete 180, but having him still be an asshole even after his turn to the light just makes him more entertaining to me.
Aside from the line about Sandrone giving us a better idea of where each Fatui Harbinger stands in the rankings, the line that interests me the most is the one about Pantalone’s partnership with Dottore. One’s an accountant who could literally plunge entire countries into economic turmoil at a moments notice and the other’s a highly intelligent scientist who reprogrammed a piece of ancient machinery to mind control the citizens of Sumeru and got his hands on both the Dendro Gnosis and the Electro Gnosis just by killing off his army of artificial body doubles.
They may be seven spots apart from each other in the ranking’s, but I don’t think any two other harbingers are capable of causing nearly as much mayhem as these two.
So what we've learned so far about Columbina,
1. Childe loves fighting, yet is scared to face her
2. Scaramouche is leagues ahead of Childe in terms of combat prowess, and is still cautious of her
3. She is on the level of a god, according to Nahida
I can't wait until we get to see the top three in action, Capitano included
@Carol DP Good news, perhaps the Captain is the first harbinger, most likely
@Alhusean Alneami I was incredibly happy to see this leak, I hope it's true
@Mercyful Fate he is the first 😜
@Mercyful Fate same
Still sad that captain is not the second
I'm so excited for Columbina! She already got my attention ever since i saw the trailer of them. One of the few female characters that i really really want to have, I'm really hoping they make her as a playable character because it's a shame if I'll never be able to admire her absolutely gorgeous design. All these dialogues about her makes me really excited to know what's going on with her. So mysterious and elegant yet so sinister, i love her
YES THIS
As expected of Pulcinella but feels less interesting since it's been done before in other series and games. Smart way to keep your wolf (Childe) to not bite you especially Tartaglia showing instances of pointing his blade the moment he spots betrayal or sus actions. I'm very concerned about Childe and his family even more.
I do hope we get back to more of lore important stuff than fillers with him.
@Giorno Giovanna Childe; when I said take my family out I meant to dinner!
Puchinella: holding a shotgun
@Novi :D
*5.1 dialogue leaked*
traveller: that's a very nice argument pulcinella, why don't you back it up with a source? *Points blade*
Pulcinella: the source is that I made it the f*ck up
@𝕊𝕠 𝕝𝕠𝕟𝕘 well yes but even more so for pulcinella Is what I’m saying
@Novi :D I think all the harbingers r manipulative
Scaramouche after leaving the fatui : "I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye"
You want forgiveness? Get religion
Stings, doesn't it?
"gonna cry?"
Lmaoo
"About Capitano" sounded like the most backhanded complement ever
@Aeris Sai kieru's animation was so good It leaves me wanting to see that happen, or like a total war between the fatui vs everyone we have met along the way.
And yes Arlecchino could be playable in a nice way, after traveler defeats her instead of going around teyvat for freedom (kazuha) or existing between the lines but if required make appearance (scara), Arlecchino could seek to understand herself for once: She been nice on the outside but when the moment comes she turns into a true monster hidden within, but I'd this really herself? A path to discover your true purpose while also controlling/understanding this monster you deeply have custom yourself to accept
@Giorno Giovanna I like the sound of that, it'd make for a CG that's just as awesome as the 2023 Harbinger animation by Kieru.
Logical thought that came to mind; Arlecchino is a loose cannon that'll go rogue so she might end up dead. Her chances are slim from what we know about her and how the Fatui feel about her but there's a slim chance for that community, that she'll still be playable.
@Aeris Sai so capitano has a chance of turning back against the fatui if it goes against his principles, maybe that's the plan:
If they turn against each other things will turn into true chaos inside their ranks, specially if pulcinella gets to be eliminated (he seems to be like a proctor or middle ground between all of them, because for what I seems most of the members of the fatui seems pretty...unstable)
I can't wait to see what they do with the fatui
@Aeris SaiAhhh thank you very much🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@Illumi Zoldyck
- Capitano has been given so many titles from the Fatui because he's a positive rolemodel for the organization
- Wanderer gets annoyed whenever members of the Fatui talk about Capitano since it's all compliments and respect
- Wanderer is wary of those types of people with an unbreakable conviction to their beliefs because they will turn on you if you do something that's against their personal code/beliefs
- Wanderer also acknowledges that Capitano possesses great strength so it would be an even more difficult obstacle if he turns on the Fatui.
*Main take-away. Wanderer is pessimistic about everyone, however, he respects Capitano because he's too good of a Harbinger.
I would like to believe that Columbina will be like Nahida but cracked like literally bending our minds haha
@Nikhil Unless it’s a case of not being important to the story. Like it’s just decoration and have very little affect on anything.
@Nikhil design wise, the doctor looks playable, but design isnt relevant anymore since this smugface puppet just got a redesign too
@Nikhil u said top 3, what about Columbina and Pierro. Also, they might get another segment to be playable or make him playable and still not having him on traveler's side
@Silent my answer is doctor doesn't have any means to redeem himself he is stay up evil so he would not be playable and if he would become playable I don't know how would he come in decent terms with traveller
@Nikhil i did it, my question hasn't changed
Wanderer even Warned us about How Dangerous Columbina is, I'm curious about her In the future, I hope she will be playable too
@SawaKun Gaming & Reactions well technically it should just be pierro and signoria since pulcinella is confirmed to be playable (thanks to the tevyat trailer)
@Alief Dimas 😂🤣😭
@josebalto omarnilson even so, looking at the fact that Dottore and Scara are playable after being NPCs makes certain harbingers playable in the future. But I guarantee you, if anything changed I’d mention it.
so all the harbingers ARE ranked by strength AND prestige. Childe is the weakest of the harbingers then?
@Rand SpazYou forget the Fatui act alone and it seems they don’t check on each other’s strengths from when they initially got the rank. So in their eyes Childe is still Childe and they don’t check up on any of his improvements because they don’t expect much, so basically they underestimate him. I don’t know if they move them ranks though when someone dies or when someone Is added
They probably are like the worst team I ever seen yet they somehow work together. 😂
@Evan-C you can search the definition of ability and its alike.
@Evan-C u sure cause i just saw the translated cn voice line that its not power but instead its ability
@Oblivion YT not in the original text. It says power which in CN can be referred to strength, status, wealth or influence. So there were doubts on that part
Childe literally said "fatui harbingers are ranked by strength" on his voiceline
I’ve begun to realize that tartaglia is literally the red headed step childe of the harbingers
Wanderer here is talking about killing Dottore, giving a possibility that Nahida's merciful act might be her downfall. What do you guys think?
@ANWAR hopefully we can team up and 2 vs 1 like what happened in sumeru
Failing is inevitable, Nahida is in a much better place now both physically and mentally, so even if she suffers a major blow, sure she'll back up and regain power in no time.
Sorry but dottore will end him the second he thinks of rising a hand on him🫡
I mean that's how it works TBH.
@AdvernTheHobbyist he acknowledges her*
I don't know, but Scara and Childe kinda give me that vibe of anime rivalry in which they roast each other constantly and say the other is no match for them, but when they end up fighting it is always a tie or somebody else stopping the fight in a way the audience never knows who's stronger
I'm happy they decided to go the commedia dell'arte route for Dottre and Pantalone. And judging by the end of the voiceline, their interactions are going to be interesting from here on out. Just please don't kill Pantalone HVY lol.....
@Mason King me too bro everyone keeps saying he's just 9th because he's a banker but i feel like he's actually strong lol
It seems like everyone has such an odd opinion on Pantalone he mught actually secretly be pretty strong.
Or I’m just reading to much into it I just really want him to be playable.
Honestly i'm curious how they gonna handle Columbina.
They kept hyping us on how scary she is, i can only imagine there's going to be a "horror-like" segment for her time of shine.
And also, when do you think we gonna meet her?
Fontaine? outside Sandrone, we still haven't take care of Dottore.
Natlan? Would the nation fits for her appearance? Capitano made sense because he is a fighter and likely came from Natlan afterall.
Snezhnaya? That place will be filled with Fatui events!
(Assuming we're facing Tsaritsa, Pierro, Pulcinella and Arlechinno there... not to mention Dottore?)
Usually we don't move on to other Harbingers without taking care of established ones ' plot line. Like how Signora was the acting Fatui representative all the way from Mondstadt to Inazuma before finally croaking, while Childe was basically an enforcer without a mission by the end of Liyue's quest and was allowed to exit the story. I bet Dottore will meet his end by Natlan with probably 1 or 2 other Harbingers appearing in roles similar to Childe before dealing with the majority of them in Snezhnaya
@tsaritsa the mask has eye holes lol
@indrmln now I do wonder how tf does dottore see🦝
@tsaritsa considering she sarcastically said that dottore is looking very young, i guess she can see alright. either with her eyes or her other senses
Yes i also honestly doesn’t trust it completely too because that person shared it on Dottore mains discord. That person was an admin in one of the leaker discord channel (where Ubatcha and SYP was included iirc what they said) so take it with a grain of salt. But honestly it will be awesome if it was real because Columbina and Focalors working together sounds 👌
That person also showed a meme that they made where Columbina and Focalors are shaking hands (cat form) and has a caption “My Man” 😂. They drawn Focalors that has chains on her body, has gills/flaps(?) on her head, a lone white hair accessory (possibly a ribbon?) on her left side of her hair, and her hair is black with dark blue tones (like other archons who has another color on their hair)
Honestly looks so cool in design. I hope its true 👍
One thing that is very interesting that I see little discussion about is how Pantalone works with Dottore. I'm now wondering whether he'll make an appearance in the new Archon quest.
Edit: Nevermind then, time to wait for fontaine
What he says about the Tsaritsa is very interesting. Not only does it imply that she is the god of love, as many have theorized, but it also implies that she either lost someone/something she loved above anything else, or someone/something she loved betrayed her, leaving her bitter. I guess only time will tell.
Somewhere in Snezhnaya in patch 6.X:
Congratulations! You joined the fatui. Pick your harbinger from...
- Old man from Khaenriah, we don't know much about him because he shows once an... eternity
- Don't choose this one, he's a psycho. He don't need you, he has clones (at least he had them)
- A creepy girl. What the hell is she?!
- Oh yeah, the Captain. The best option out of these. Alice probably chose him as idol from Snezhnaya
- The mayor. He pretends to be a kind person, but he really doesn't care about you.
- [ERROR.FILE.NOT.FOUND.]
- You don't matter to her if you are not a ruin guard.
- R.I.P.
- A reason why your salary is so low. (Wait, is he a communist?). You probably fight better than him.
- Definitely the impostor.
- Guy who loves fighting. Other harbingers think that he decreases their average IQ
That's all! If you waited for good option, just leave the fatui.
Childe doesn't just decrease the average IQ of the harbingers, he decreases the average IQ of the ENTIRETY of Teyvat.
Wanderer: Man this is a crispy looking lasagna.
Traveler: Those are Signora Ashes.
Wanderer: Oh so there is some Ashes.
i hope Capitano will be a playable character, he looks badass.
I'm literally obsessed with any information pertaining to Marionette, even if it's little. Idk, there's just something about her that really gets my curiosity.
@Illumi Zoldyck I disagree, most uderrated is Pulcinella
i'm just mad he called her achievements "copious amount of garbage"...to the one capable of making complete bionic puppets with personality (even better then the shogun's creation since scara and puppet raiden have ball joints and stuff, kath on the other hand looks completely human), and its not mentioned but she could be the ceo of the adventure's guild which would provide huge amount of information flow (kath already deals with traveler a lot, that's one target locked), now imagine the rest, alice, varka, and local information on regions...etc
Her potential is scary tbh, and he said she doesn't give an F to anything else
Most underrated harbinger
God the savagery on Signora are just out of this world Signora fans will literally never recover after that lmao
I could care less, but the fact that history can be rewritten, no matter how difficult, or the insinuation that we can travel through Teyvats history, makes me think that we can pull a Ruu for Signora and have her as a playable character.
I think this also makes future possibilities for influential figures like Venessa, the real Stanley, Bennett's Dad or the other Liyue Yakshas. Obvs unlikely, but it wouldn't be impossible.
@Afrid🍡 Pretty sure there were a lot of simps for her when that fatui trailer dropped but now people are hating her after learning that she kills orphans
@Arda Oguzhan If someone like Signora is being called a "heartless monster" for the bare minimum than Genshin fandom will have a meltdown once they encounter Arlecchino
@Afrid🍡 It kind of is since he said nothing remained of her ashes indicating she was a heartless monster
Nor will Signora recover.
Columbina is so mysterious I’m so excited to see what her story and personality looks like
same fr
It's interesting how both Scara and Childe point out Columbina as 'someone we should watch out for'. It really does make me wonder how powerful is she. He mentions that he would be able to take her on, but us, with our 'conscience', might as well be dead. Our conscience, as in our mind, I guess? Maybe something mind control or at least reading our thoughts? I don't know, but it's possible.
This just makes me love columbina even more, and it makes even more sense why she's on signora coffin. Its most likely not because she was close to Signora, But just because she's so unaware of the situation that all she knows is that she's just singing. It makes me wonder if maybe Columbina has a child like mindset, even the way she speaks to dottore sounds so innocent and pure.
@Herp Derp ah thanks for the info! Really excited for another Columbina's voice lines and even in-game appearances
@M Driandanu Yudisa
Yup, that's Columbina. At least, that's what the wiki said and given her voice.
Nah mate, I doubt Collei would casually talk to the man who experimented on her and ask where the segment would be if she is in Sumeru as well.
@Herp Derp uh was that Columbina? I thought it's Collei all this time lol
@M Driandanu Yudisa
During the trailer when it faded to black and Columbina commented to Dottore on how he's looking young and asked where the segment at the prime of his life is.
Wait, when did she speak to dottore?
Bro called us weak after we took him down 😭😂
@☆Yuki☆ I think traveler can beat him in 1 on 1 if he do not have that giant mecha
The power of MC, nothing new
He really asks to be beaten again, huh? Now with a dull blade
I am identifying some of the usernames here I think...people with personal grudges against characters please stay out of power scaling discussions!!
@0xVENx0 We didn't defeat Ei, she barely even got tired from the fight, we just made her change her mind by letting her see the power of ambitions(visions)
I don’t see anyone talking about Pantalone so I’ll do it 👍
First of all:
-Pantalone getting a death flag so early on
*my guy is approaching death even before he got released*
-There’s nothing impressive about Pantalone’s abilities according to Wanderer, I assume he’s talking about combat abilities
Pantalone must be an insane strategist to somehow be ranked 9th with just his intelligent(and therefore with his wealth and influence on the Economy)
-Pantalone likely being the most humane or in other words the closest to resemble normal/ordinary humans in the Harbingers, Scara kept comparing him to “Mortals”
Interesting because it means he represents the Mortals who don’t have a visions or blessed by the Gods just like himself
-Pantalone canonically works closely with Dottore(The Doctor)
Considering the difference between their ranks and Dottore being insane, Pantalone is playing with fire here
-Wanderer said “it's nothing worth,writing home about, just like how there's also nothing impressive about his abilities or *choice of partner”*
“Choice of partner”? So that meant the Harbingers can freely decide who to work with? If that’s the case then Pantalone intentionally approaches Dottore
Overall this guy is interesting as heck, I’m just sad everything about his character is dumb down to how flamboyant he looks(he really does tho)
There’s nothing much about him currently aside from him potentially has something to do with Liyue’s future story and Zhongli
Despite me thinking he’s the most normal human in the Harbingers, he may even be one of the most insane for daring to change the imbalance between Gods and Mortals himself despite being only a mere Mortal kinda like Dottore lmao
@Rock That is very intriguing indeed. I find the Harbingers to be such compelling figures, but what’s more interesting is how Pantalone is portrayed as just some guy... very ordinary and human, not even special enough in the eyes of the gods to receive a vision. I want to see what they’ll do with that.
About Signora, I think so too! Both Childe and Scaramouche refused to talk about her because “There’s nothing worth saying now that she’s dead.” I think there’s more to her that the developers aren’t showing us yet. Venti would indeed be a very fitting person to hear it from!
@Lynn Raven ikr i find it so ironic that hes supposed to be a greedy character according to his Commedia Dell'arte counterpart but he somehow represents the most mundane and hopeless people in Teyvat
Also about Signora, her death did felt rushed(like the entire Inazuma Archon quest) but i hope theyll do her story justice in the Future but maybe not because Scara didnt even bother to talk about her lmao, maybe they are hiding something about her Story, if we are gonna learn more about her then i think it will be from Venti
I actually think there is a lot potential for his contribution to the story. According to Uncle Tian, “What he’s planning may very well shake the world to its core”. Childe also explicitly mentions him having grandiose plans fueled by raw ambition… I think the links to Liyue are quite intentional, as well as his uncanny resemblance to Baizhu. It’s likely he’s from Liyue as well. I think his motivations will be very interesting to explore, what with him being born into extreme poverty and being visionless.
So far, Genshin’s done a great job with the Harbingers’ story… though Signora’s character and depth not being shown in the main quests was a huge disappointment, I reckon they’ll do the rest of them justice!
A theory about columbina, maybe her powers got something to do with her opponent's consciousness like guilt, or some feelings you feel toward something like a cute/hurt animal? You know, that sudden grasp of heart then you suddenly can't breathe and think straight?
If so then she's a 10/10 monster👀
Since on this voice lines we have now confirmed that Sandrone is the 7th Harbinger, but still I have a feeling that Pierro is not the number 1 since Dottore is confirmed as number 2, It would be impossible that Capitano would be lower than him since based on Childe's voice over to him that Capitano is stronger, so I would assume that the number 1 of the harbingers would be Capitano then for Pierro would be head of them, take it like from the Food Wars anime... where the new batch of the elite 10, Souma is the Number 1 while Erina is the Director of the elite 10, as for Arleechino the way Scaramouche's voice line about her, it would be also Impossible if she would be at number 10, so my guess would be she could be number 4, and so I'll leave the 10th spot to an None category like the number 6 & 8 since the former harbingers here were Scaramouche & La Signora
What if Scara’s comments on Columbina of “consciousness” indicates that she could manipulate other’s consciousness, like Nahida does to other people, but without Akasha? It could be scary af. She could just casually control your body and make you suicide.
Nahida do not need the akasha for her mind controling abilities
Now that Pierro is confirmed to be a Khaenrian. I just noticed something about Khaenrians character. All of them(excluding the traveler and the npcs) Have a dragon like eye and they all have eyepatch of some sort.
@Aeris Sai damn that’s kinda sad
@石川 白 Yeah, he basically had the equivalent of Alhaitham's scribe job. Working closely with the royals and rulers of Khaenri'ah but not having enough authority to overturn decisions that could've possibly saved Khaenri'ah.
@SINNER i think pierro used to work for kaeya royal family
primo eyes and half mask for khaneriahn's
He has to be Kaeya's Dad 😭😭😭
Scaramouche on Arlecchino: she's a wolf in sheep's clothes.
Me: she looks anything but gentle if you ask me.
Agreed. And while I don't know much about her, I can already surmise she's the biggest psychopath out of the current Nine Harbingers. For saying she wants "absolute loyalty", I can't even imagine what the price is for backstabbing Arlecchino - even for the 10th Harbinger.
Fun Fact: Scaramouch's Voiceline about the Tsaritsa Confirmed every God's ideals.
Anemo is freedom
Geo is Contracts
Electro is Eternity
Dendro is Wisdom
Hydro is Justice
Pyro is War
and finally we know that Cryo is Love.
Didn't dain also said in the teyvat storyline that the cryo archon had no love left for her people so it was kinda obvious that she was the archon of love
So in a 'run or fight' situation against columbina, scaramouche is actually gonna choose fight? Damn that's badass
He could try to but top 3 Harbingers are God level of strength
His voice actor did such a great job
SCARAMUSTACHE IS COMING FOR CHILDE'S ENTIRE CAREER BRO-
It’s really interesting how both Childe and Scaramouche are unsettled by Columbina. I need to see her in action as soon as possible. In my opinion, her and Sandrone are the most interesting harbingers.
Geez, Scara roasted Signora just as much as Raiden
Heh, like mother, like son.
Scaramouche : He is simple of mind and not that strong of a body.
Tartaglia : Ha! Said the fandago man who got his ass in a giant robot beaten by the traveller!
Scaramouche : Oi! What about you?! You ass got kicked even harder!
Tartaglia : Hey! I never wanted to kill her so I didn't go all out! You on the other hand.......
Scaramouche : WHY YOU INSIGNIFICANT WORM! Then let's see how you fare against my mech!
Tartaglia : BRING IT ON Mr.Big Hat shortie!
Lumine : GUYS! PLEASE STOP IT!
Nahida, support character on team : Scara. Your mom Ei made it clear. No more mechs for you to play with.
Scara: I can pilot a robot, you can't even drive a car
In teapot
I so want to see Capitano after this.
The Titan of the Knights of Favonius speaks highly of him.
And Childe fanboys about him.
Wanderer says he has "...great personal strenght...".
So I would say, since he's heading to Natlan, probably Capitano is the strongest human in Teyvat and a child of Murata, (I wouldn't consider Dottore to be a human anymore, Columbina is probably another kind of being and Pierro is fussy because Khaenri'ah)
Capitano could also be the Bloodstained Knight. The Knight also had an obsession for justice and righteousness. He also came from Mondstadt and served under the Knights of Favonius, which is funny because we hear about Capitano making contact with the current Grandmaster of Knights of Favonius Varka.
I feel like he's from Mondstadt or connected to it as a former knight. There has to be a reason as to why he hides his face.
I have a feeling that for the Snezhnaya quest, there might be a part where we are trying to save Childe’s family from Pucinella. And since Teucer have been revealed, there is a chance that he will be a major death in that chapter
Columbina's cuteness will be our demise.
I was wondering who will be our guide in Snezhnaya. And have thought that it would probably be either Childe trying to save his family, or Katherine putting in a good word for us. But Scara now seems like a good guide for us. And given that other than maybe 2 of the 9 harbingers care about loyalties to the Tsaritsa, we gonna enter with a civil war on tow.
_"Copious amount of garbage"_ - best line ever 👌😂
But on a serious note: _"Love is a form of sin."_
I never thought of that but it actually is if you cling to hard to it. A really good incentive to think about for those who cling to false/lost love.
I got a feeling that Childe was gonna betray the fatui one day. Given that Childe and Wanderer are the only playable Fatui characters for now..
yeah either he leaves or not. He's still loyal to Tsaritsa. but most of the Fatui probably have something behind their back. especially Pierro.
"-have gone *poof*"
Scara saying this is making me laugh more than it should
Really glad I was not the only one-
"But even with that amount of dedication, she still produced a copius amount of garbage"
LMAOOOO i love this guy, he's the type of person who would use "L + Bozo + cope + Fatherless" in an arguement 💀
Wanderer is jealous of Capitano's compliments. 😏
Ok I understand the whole “The quiet ones without much aggression are the dangerous ones” cliche and all
But did scaramouche straight up *WARN* us about columbina after dissing all of the other harbingers
Just how scary is she gonna be when we meet her?
If I had to guess, I believe El Capitano will show up in Fontaine. Scaramouche’s description of him makes it sound like he’d fit right in to the nation of “Justice”
Arlecchino and Sandrone has the highest chance of apperance in Fontaine thanks to their getup, Pierro and Dottore could also make a cameo, but one thing is for sure multiple harbingers would be showing up in Sumeru
He's currently in Natlan, it was mentioned during weinlesefest.
but cap was confirmed to be going to natlan
Most likely it's Sandrone that we would meet in Fontaine and since they are starting to introduce two Harbringers at the same time, maybe Columbina will show up in Fontaine too
They literally said in game he's headed to natlan, it's almost guaranteed that's when we'll meet him, Fontaine is likely where Sandrone is.
As the most hated Harbinger, I'm not surprised he hates everybody either.
Interesting how Scara was sent to the Abyss multiple times. Wonder in if that was to keep him out of the way...
Can practically taste the jealousy from the Captain line, especially after the thing with Haypasia.
My man woke up and chose violence, and personally I love that for him
Lol Sandrone. Imagine spending your entire life researching and creating armies of robots, but still ends up ranking lower than a literal robot
OOF I had a strong feeling right off the bat that Pulcinella was playing Childe to have a hold over his family. The fact Wanderer confirmed it has me convinced on some level all the Fatui are bastards fighting for a worthy goal. Super interesting villains for sure
Also damn they confirmed Pantalone works closely with Dottore. That’s a horrifying combination considering how powerful the Northland Bank is and how much research Dottore can do.
Also damn they’re continuing to keep the Tsaritsa a big mystery. Good to build slow hype for Shneznya
i think the line "Nothing remained in her ashes" is being very overlooked even after his teaser
The Wanderer's comment concerning Columbina is so interesting to dissect. He sounds completely dead serious when talking about her, especially compared to the other top Harbingers where he seems cautious at most (with Dottore, it seems like Scara's doesn't underestimate him but also he really hates him). Then there's his comment about at least being able to fight Columbina, which is extremely subjective to its meaning, but I find it unlikely that her innocent appearance is the only reason she's No.3. He's definitely wary of her (not scared though) as he isn't in his usual cocky mood and looks down on her abilities, like he did with Childe and Sandrone.
His voicelines about Columbia kind of confirms my theory that instead of fighting, she might be the "intel girl" and is the reason why the Fatui are so well informed. By using her "innocence" she can manipulate people to unintentionally provide intel to the Fatui. Just my theory though so take this as a grain of salt.
I think it’s important to remember that Columbine (As well as the rest of the harbingers) are based of of commedia dellarte. Columbia was a character that was the most down to earth, as well as one of the more intelligent characters. She would put up a front of being a helpless pawn of her lovers despite being the actual mastermind.
I’m sure the harbingers won’t be exactly like their counterparts, but it looks like this is where they are going with Columbine.
then i think she'd befriend us pretending to be low ranked fatui or a civilian and help us through the quest then boom, at a crucial moment its revealed she's a harbinger with power that rival gods and stabs us in the back, that's why scara warned us not to confront her with our conscience.
or she'll manipulate us into questioning our choices and spark guilt in the traveler's self